Thread 718345123

So which characters are most likely on the chopping block for the next game?

>>718345123 (OP)
hopefully all of them. modern smash is fucking trash.

>>718345123 (OP)
Most of them probably. Almost all the guest definitely. A new smash bros is most likely going to be a 'back to basics' approach.

>>718345123 (OP)
>NEW MOVESETS
Adult Link, Donkey Kong, Samus, Zelda
>GETTING DROPPED
Kazuya, Sora, Banjo and Kazooie, Piranha Plant, Dragon Quest Hero, Roy or Chrom, Dark Pit, Sheik, one of the Young Link, Pichu
>SAFE 3rd PARTY GUESTS
Sonic, Simon/Richter, Terry, Ryu/Ken, Cloud, Sephiroth, Bayonetta, Snake, Pacman, Joker
>SAFE NEWCOMERS/DLC RETURNEES
Min Min, Pyra and Mythra, Inkling, Ridley, King R Rool, Byleth,
>UNKNOWN
Minecraft garbage, Isabelle

Explanations:
-Namco 3rd party guest characters like Pacman are irrelevant but gaming icons. Namco understands this is the power of free advertising, in addition Namco has a close relationship with Nintendo for being outsourced grunt power for Smash Bros with Sora Studios. Tekken, however, is not that popular and I can see them cutting South America/Asia Tekken guy.
-Konami is on the rebound and wants to be relevant in gaming. They have been on a touring warpath with Castlevania and Metal Gear re-emerging, including Silent Hill. I don't believe they have any good reason to drop Richter and Snake since they advertise them. Remember that game companies are competing with Minecraft/F2P mobile slop/Fortnite for their game characters relevancy. No one wants to be the next forgotten IP like Pacman.
-SquareEnix is a prime example of a company that is keenly aware of Final Fantasy's decline in the public mindshare. I can see them easily letting Cloud/Sephiroth come back, but not Sora because that's Disney.
-ATLUS and Capcoms are industry whores who have no problems sharing their IPs
-Dragon Quest is popular enough that SE could decide they don't need the advertising if they aren't getting paid enough for Hero
-Piranha is a joke character, Dark Pit is irrelevant, Chrom and Roy absolutely would make the short list to even out the roster (Ike, Robin, Byleth more series recognition)
-I hate Minecraft, Microsoft owns the IP. Who knows if that autistic abomination will return
-I like Isabelle, but I have a gut feeling she could get cut

>>718345123 (OP)
Mostly “core” characters are staying
>Mario/Luigi/Bowser/Peach
>Link/Zelda/Ganondorf
>Pikachu/PT/Mewtwo/Lucario
>Marth/Robin/Byleth
>Samus/Ridley
>Snake/Sonic/Pacman/Megaman/Cloud

>>718346170
Explanations continued
-Sheik has never been good as Melee days, there are enough variations of Zelda (Link Between Worlds feet fetish Zelda, Wind Waker Tetra, Tears of the Kingdom sage Zelda) for them to make a new alter ego. I say this as a Sheik main since Melee that her being absent is better than a humiliation ritual of dogshit tier again
-Banjo is a dead 90s boomer IP that I don't see Nintendo bothering Microsoft again as a must-have
-Pichu has always been in the execution chair next to Dr Mario
-ARMS IP Min Min, Xenoblade 2 Aegis girls Pyra Mythra, Ridley, FE Byleth are not getting dropped in a roster reset
-The new Adult Link will take a new moveset, while the younger one will get the old standard moveset fully decloning them
-Ganondorf will absolutely be based on Tears of the Kingdo macho man appearance and sword moveset if Sakurai isn't a petulant child about using swords

>>718345123 (OP)
Not a single one.

Though if I could choose to delete some they would be Bayonetta, Seth Roth, and Zero Clothes Samus.

get rid of the original 12 already
characters like ness, fox and c. falcon are only known for being in smash at this point

>>718346580
Oh fuck also Kazuya, DUH!

I knew I was forgetting some piece of trash.

>>718346454
If they ever change Ganondorf completely, I want them to give his exact Melee kit to Black Shadow. Its so fucking fun.
A Tears Ganondorf could basically inherit Byleth's gimmick and replace him. Swords for forward and standard directions, Trident for up, and clubs for down. Magic Tennis replaces the bow.

>>718346580
Btw regular Samus can just have alot of zss moves. Only without being fucking coomerbait.

I also remembered I want to delete Shiek because Shiek is not a fucking ninja! Fuck Sakurai. In fact she may be the least violent character on the roster. She's just not a fighter and I'm sick of this avengers ass bullshit where everyone has to kill people. Some characters don't fucking fight Sakurai! And slicing throats isn't cool either. It's the furthest thing from Zelda's character.

they will 100% remove the characters i dont like/care for and they will keep the characters i like especially if theyre not third party

>>718346580
>removing Bayonetta
Holy fucking shit taste.

>>718346867
Fuck you! Let Ocarina Ganondorf have his own moveset for once, don't just replace him with another weapons person! You fucking tasteless nigger!

>>718347054
Enjoy hell bro.

Actually maybe having in kid Bayonetta isn't so bad. But as she is right now it's literally just coomerbait for children AND her moves are so unfun! She's the most pointless character. Who picks her? No one looks forward to using those moves! She's not even fun to fight against. Idk what baby Bayonetta can do but hopefully it's something more fun.

>>718346603
>fox is only known for being in Smash at this point
Rule 2

>>718346867
Oh that's a good point. FE Byleth feels heavy and has some special moves that are slow with tons of hyperarmor. I can see them potentially splitting off Ganondorf with the Melee clone era and the new era one that's Tears of the Kingdom with the Byleth semi-clone moveset. But they could just as well give old Melee Ganondorf's moveset to F-Zero newcomer Black Shadow, they fixed Ganon and gave F-Zero fans a bone with a series rep.
>>718346951
>coomerbait
Zero Suit Samus has always been sexualized, hell, since Metroid 1. I don't think Zero Suit should come back if she isn't getting a serious makeover, her moveset has always been a joke since Brawl. All that effort to make a plausible deniability masturbation bait character aside, Samus needs a moveset rework. It has been unchanged since 1999 or whatever the year Smash 64 was out. They have Dread, Prime, Fusion to work with a new moveset. No excuses.

Ridley is gone

>>718347239
>calling this loving, caring wife and mother “just coomerbait”

>>718347557
You wish faggot, Ridley is a series staple now.

>>718347642
Nope he was a joke and is getting benched

>>718347340
Maybe she shouldn't be sexualised, did you ever think about that? Especially not in a kid's game.

As for the new moveset, I don't think she needs one. She's fine as it is. Her gimmick should be getting some of zss's moves and being quicker and more agile than before. Don't forget that she's much faster in the suit than out in the games.

>but dead and prime and fusion
No one cares bro also they don't have anything new that's good enough for a smash move.

>>718347578
Is that real? And if so why isn't she like that in Smash or her own game's gameplay?

>>718347802
>taking issues with Samus and Bayonetta and not the literal harem cocksleeves from Xenoblade

>>718347927
Don’t talk about my wives like that

>>718346394
>he thinks snake and Cloud are staying
KEK

>>718346394

>Snake/Sonic/Pacman/Megaman/Cloud

this is the near perfect launch point for the guests for the next game

though i think Nintendo's gonna try to keep Steve

>>718345123 (OP)
That was the last one. It wasn't titled "Super Smash Bros. Penultimate".

>>718347927
They're not like that. Idk anything about Xenoblade lore but in Smash they're pretty normal.

>>718348232
>They're not like that
...

>>718347887
As of Bayonetta she is married and has a daughter, much to the chagrin of the people who wanted her to be a lesbian.

>>718348232
In the game pyra has ptsd and Mythra is a prude. They don’t act slutty but their design is titty monster with revealing clothing so they get memed

>>718346394
Why would Byleth stay but not Corrin? Isn't Byleth a nobody? Corrin is the coolest character on the whole roster besides Link. She even has her own awesome theme song.

>>718347986
Konami exited the game industry to do panchiku whatever slot gambling. They're crawling back to gaming, but you being blind don't see it. They aren't going to exclude their IPs, primarily because Fortnite is their competitor for brand awareness. SquareEnix is getting raped in the public sector by other JRPGs being more popular, Final Fantasy is not getting popular with younger gens, excluding Cloud and Sephiroth at a time Square is desperate to be hip and cool is IP suicide. Bomberman and Pacman were the top of their game in the 80s and 90s, now they're dead IPs. Japanese publishers are keenly aware of this, especially with competition from Fortnite and mobile slop.

Characters like Kingdom Hearts Sora are probably never ever coming back because Disney doesn't feel threatened with their IPs, but Konami who is making tons of new video games after a while have all the incentive to keep their IPs in the public mindshare. Final Fantasy is a franchise in on and off decay with steep competition with Persona for relevancy, Cloud and Sephiroth not returning while ATLUS gets free advertising for Persona 5 in Smash Bros Switch 2 is ritual suicide for Japanese business at SquareEnix.

>>718348136
the real name is "special" which has no similar connotations.

>>718348329
>as of Bayonetta
You mean Bayonetta 3 I'm guessing?

Anyway if she changed her ways that's good for her I guess, but I heard she was canonically going to Hell.

>>718348329
*Bayonetta 3

>>718348136
Nintendo will not let their biggest money printer besides Mario Kart die, even if it means getting a new director. Ultimate is however the end of an era, because Smash 6 will likely trim the fat and try something different.

>>718345123 (OP)
Im happy if they just remove sora.

>>718348472
Didn’t sakurai say he’s done? They have announced anything months after switch 2 launch I think it’s ogre

>>718348470
You are stupid if you think Sora is EVER going anywhere. This meme about yidsney not sharing their characters isn't even true.

Anyway my top pick for smash 6 is by far Roxas.

>>718348864
Bro they surgically removed Donald and Goofy from appearing as background characters in KH's stage in Smash Ultimate and none of the vocal songs from Hikaru Utada made it like Simple and Clean. Sora is not coming back, he barely made it in Smash Ultimate.

Jigglypuff is a mainstay, and only stupid ugly niggers believe otherwise.

>>718348671
>>718348472
>>718348136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGLMi9kXTRI

>>718348389
three houses is the de facto face of fire emblem in current year

>>718345123 (OP)
The third parties

S-surely she's safe...r-right bros?

The only Fire Emblem character on the axe list are Chrom, Corrin, and Roy. Ike isn't going anywhere, mister awful vanilla Marth is sticking around which means Lucina is in. Robin isn't going anywhere and fun fact Sakurai has a copy of FE Awakening in one of his home gaming setups in display. Byleth has too much of a unique moveset to kick out. So really its just the clones Chrom, Roy, and Fates Corrin who has a dogshit moveset.

It'll be the OG 12 + 3 new ones, but everything else can stay.