Thread 718388957

What if Subnautica looked like this?

>>718388957 (OP)
it doesn't ?

>>718389021
>How would you feel if you didn't have brekkie today?

posting in a dimwit thread

>>718389201
More like posting in a dimly lit thread

>>718389173
Ok just what the fuck is this whole "breakfast" thing.
I don't browse shitter 24/7 so please explain your niggerdry

>>718389273
>man asks person A, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning
>expected answer is something like 'grumpy, unwell, hungry etc.'
>low IQ negroid says 'but I did have breakfast this morning!'

it's just a dumb scenario where idiots don't understand hypotheticals. retards love bringing it up unrelated because it makes them feel smart

>>718388957 (OP)
Like, with the blue abyss? I remember the game looking like that sometime but it might just be that I'm honestly so fucking scared about underwater stuff than I see it worse than it actually is

>>718389173
incorrect use
let more intelligent people handle things like this

>>718389173
That was a question not a statement, ESLnigger.

>>718388957 (OP)
it does. go down deeper you scaredy-cat

>>718389343
I have to pause the webms and just watch them like a powerpoint because otherwise I feel my heart shrink
what a fucking shit game, just hurting me for no reason

>>718389173
retard tries to sound smart, sounds even more retarded

Subnautica threads always make me feel a bit better because they show to me how I'm not the only person that absolutely TERRIFIED of what's under the ocean

>>718389343
I still don't know if there's a real entrance there or not but I went there first too. Only difference is the reaper tried to jump me on the surface and missed so I swam away. It's funny because they don't usually stick around the surface in their other regions, but here they do.

are the rumours...true?

>>718389343
I wasn’t scared of water and still not afraid of it but playing this game made me comprehend why some people can be scared of large bodies of water.

>>718391003
this thing is not scary to me because I don't see the water
there was this star wars game for the n64 and there was a sewers level, the moment you entered one room the water level would go all the way up, and then you realize there's a monster under you, fucking heart attacks with that game. Also shadow of the colossus for ps2 was brutal with the eel thing.

>>718391063
It doesn't help that the filters make everything way less clear than normal. Below Zero is the serious offender. It turns pitch black right as you step over a line with no warning. Better hope you remember which way was backwards because the leviathan spawns near instantly too.

thalassophobia is a made up urban invention like tripophobia or other dumb shit people watch on instagram. people who livestream their walkthrough of subnautica and pretend to be afraid of water are just acting.

>>718389173
Another L for ESL losers lmaoo, please stop being stupid anon

you can take Subnautica to the next level of fear but you have to cheat to do it.
enable unlimited power and you can go deeper than the game map intended and into a weird twilight zone place that never ends, but the creatures just keep on coming

Subnautica two is already subnautica without any of the soul the original had, dunno why you'd waste a thread for a question already answered.

>>718391573
At that point it just becomes tiring, not scary anymore.
Things are scary because we lack information.
Like Alien and Aliens, you know?

>>718389021
No, they went full reddit with the aesthetics by making all the fish glow

>>718391953
Reaper explicitly doesn’t do that though.

>>718391312
Don't lump people with a primordial fear of predators lurking in the deep ocean in with people who piss themselves over too many holes in their swiss

>>718388957 (OP)
>lust provoking image
>irrelevant time wasting question

>>718391063
I'm not really scared of water either, but in kerbal I always had to make sure not land in the middle of the ocean, otherwise I'd tweak out

>>718391312
>t.

Descending the Crater Edge was one of the most uncomfortable experiences I had. I'm pretty sure I had a mini panic attack or something given how hard my heart was beating.
I wasn't even scared like I'd feel watching an horror movie, the ghost leviathans weren't scary either. It just felt plain wrong.

>>718389173
Damn this triggered the FUCK out of the low IQ kids lmfao

>>718389173
Who are you quoting?

>>718390873
There is an entrance at the front of the ship that requires a radiation suit to survive. The Reaper Leviathan trolls around this area, especially the backside, so it's generally better to approach from the northwest.

>>718391953
This, bioluminescence was created by reddit, like everything else in the universe.

>>718389173
It's 16:28 and I still didn't eat.

>>718391063
Imagine yourself in the middle of the ocean with nothing. it's that kind of horror. Otherwise I can skinny dip as long as the boat is a few hundred meters away just fine. Sharks and shit are just whatever. The boat sinking after a meteor struck it has a higher chance of happening than getting attacked by some teeth.

Reaper is boring. Having to dodge the Bloop and be paralyzed by the roars of the Gargantuan Leviathan, now that is scary.

>>718389343
The issue with this game is that the scale feels off
The spaceship is supposed to be super massive but here it looks the size of an aircraft carrier
The reaper leviathan is supposed to be 55 meters (180 feet) long, but here it looks like a 7ft long dolphin...

>>718388957 (OP)
>Help an alien shark is soifacing at me!

>>718389343
is scares me how fucking big this ship is

>>718389273
It's a meme about some people being too dumb to understand hypothetical questions. The post you're replying to is using it wrong.

my retarded ass never follows the story so i got bored and started swimming in one direction hoping to find something.
after a bit i look to my right and watch as the body of the shadow leviathan goes up then disappears back in the water.
horror games are a joke in comparison

When I first played Subnautica I had a hard time just going into the water in the first place because those stupid manatee things were nearby making weird noises.

>>718395479
>>718396031
The duality of man

>>718395424
>The boat sinking after a meteor struck it has a higher chance of happening than getting attacked by some teeth.
Nice try, Selachii

>>718389173
libtards: triggered

>>718395445
None of the creatures in Subnautica looks as scary as a Great White head on
I don't know how nature does it, Leviathan also has pitch black eyes like Great White, but the shark, it wakes something in me, deeply, and not in a sexual way, mind you

>>718397796
The great white is real and exists, and your brain knows that it has a chance of killing you. It also knows none of these things are real, so they don't elicit that response.

>retard friend plays subnautica
>doesn't get scared
>plays abiotic factor
>shits himself at the hydroplant
"Dood I fuckin hate water shit that shits terrifying."

>>718399639
lmao

>>718399639
>Get unnerved by the dark and sound at first while in hydro
>"oh I guess it's nothing"
>Come back later cause I need the cubes
>Big ass mouth is coming towards me
Fuck that, giving me a false sense of security

>>718395479
>The issue with this game is that the scale feels off
>The spaceship is supposed to be super massive but here it looks the size of an aircraft carrier
it's your own scale that's off.
the largest aircraft carrier ever to sail is 1,092 ft (333 m) long
the Aurora model in-game is 4,200 ft (1280 m) long

it IS super massive, you just have weird expectations probably stemming from a lifetime of exposure to bad scifi

>>718395479
Everything feels much smaller than it should on a relatively small screen with a high fov. Looking around in VR you realize even peepers are fucking massive.

>>718388957 (OP)
Subnautica 1 was the only good one zero was shit and woke and 2 is going to be dead on arrival.

>>718403039
careful you don't burn your hands on that hot take, anon. it looks REALLY hot :O

>>718389173
I don't think that's what the meme is about

>>718403371
>careful you don't burn your hands on that hot take, anon. it looks REALLY hot :O
Had to ruin a marketing thread, All marketing threads must be ruined.

>>718391063
>>718395424
Why is there such a lack of games that evoke these feelings? Subnautica was so good, but on replays that fear is much less because I know the map so well. I want games to exploit my fear of the ocean more. Its such an untapped market.

>>718403826
How can it really evoke such feeling while also keeping itself video game?
Ok here's a body of water, deep blue sea when you look down, it's all quiet except you hear your own heartbeats and the thumping on your eardrums. No music, no ambience.
Then what? Give you a high tech multi-tool?
Let's be real, you WILL die if you get dropped in the middle of the ocean.

>>718389343
realistically can creatures like this detect radiation? Like if this actually happened would these large predators hang out around the ship or would they feel themselves getting fucked up and leave?

>>718392852
kek

>>718388957 (OP)
You don't need a blue dark filter to be scary.

And I can forgive Subnautica for not having AAA budget for animation and avoiding clipping.
It could have been much better but not for these reasons.
I looked into the development process and it's clear they had a scope higher than they could achieve, then fucked up with their gating mechanic.

The first game is still a good game, even if flawed, and if you have to deactivate the annoying eating mechanic.
IMHO they should have persevered with needing to collect eggs and put fish in aquarium to solve the mystery.
Would have given you a reason to build.

When is someone going to make a game called Subnaughtyca and you swim around breeding with mermaid versions of the creatures?

>>718405041
>IMHO they should have persevered with needing to collect eggs and put fish in aquarium to solve the mystery.
>Would have given you a reason to build.
just letting them breed you more food would have been nice.

>>718404382
Yeah, I guess its hard to do right, since Subnautica couldn't even replicate it with the sequel

>>718395479
I disagree for the same reason as >>718401425
Once you get vehicles that let you move easily or even the mecha, a lot of things start looking smaller than they really are.

>>718404646
Some animals can sense radiation, I think

will 3 at least be better than BZ? I have some hope after they fired all the management faggots, one of which talked about the specific ways in which he ruined BZ

>>718395479
I've stood on the USS Ronald Reagan at its commissioning. Aircraft Carriers are hueg, but not as hueg as the Aurora looks here. Not nearly as wide, tall or long.

It's your sense of scale that is faulty.

>>718401425
>>718405326
It is massive in theory yes, but just look at the size of the dude near one of its reactors.
I agree that the spaceship was not the best exemple since it still looks kinda big (even if not as big as a 4000ft vessel should be), but point still stands.
The Reaper Leviathan doesn't look 180 feet long.
It looks 8 to 14 feet long at best.
The water doesn't look several hundreds feet deep like it canonically is according to the game's scale.
It looks like maybe 50 feet deep (and even then it would be way darker, it rather looks like 30 feet)

>>718405175
You can breed fish for food, but only the small fish can be eaten of course. They'll only breed in the alien containment tank, not the ornamental fishtank.

>>718401425
It's probably due to the size of my dick

>>718405553
Aircraft carrier was maybe an exaggeration, but it looks like a somewhat bigger cruise ship.
The size of the waves give off that a human would be a little bigger on the left pic than the swimmers on the right one

>>718405986
The space ship is that big in-game, proportional to your character. The Reaper is also that long. The issue is not with the scale, it's you. You expect things to be bigger than they are.

Your only valid point is the light levels but that's for gameplay reasons.

>>718405986
are you fucking retarded? all you can see in that photo is his face and his grippers. the span on those grippers is roughly 12 feet by guesstimation (2 player models).
>The water doesn't look several hundreds feet deep like it canonically is according to the game's scale.
It looks like maybe 50 feet deep
that area is called the shallows. It is genuinely 50 feet deep at best.
You've never even played the fucking game have you...

>>718405041
Gating mechanic?

>>718406407
The size of waves isn't even universal on planet earth, what a retarded thing to compare sizes to. If you snapped a pic of the Aurora at the same distance and angle as the right picture it would completely fill the screen with no sku visible and you wouldn't be able to see the entire thing. Again, your sense of scale is fucked mate. You are spacially challenged.

>>718406501
Eating mechanic. I assume he means having to eat to survive, which I never found annoying. There's fish everywhere , chests with purified water and nutrient dense food blocks all around the Aurora wreck. Once you find the islands and get some fruit and can build planters its over. You can even grow fruit on your sub and never be hungry again.

>>718405986
>It looks 8 to 14 feet long at best.
good god, i hope you aren't ever tasked with eyeballing any carpentry because you're a fucking retard

>>718406829
Yeah I never had trouble with the survival mechanics either, especially when you get the knife that instacooks fish.

>>718388957 (OP)
for me, it's the fucking sea monsters in Valheim, especially before you were aware of their existance and were just out on the sea with a tiny low tier ship you spent a long time scraping together resources for

>>718406925
He's an idiot. 8 feet is slightly longer than a man is tall. Some freakishly large men *are* that tall. 14 is slightly longer than two tall men, and a little less than 3 average men.

Bro really looks at this long ass fishtail motherfucker and concludes he's as long as 2 or 3 dudes standing on each others shoulders.

>>718407096
If he really did mean gating, maybe he meant the schematics, which I didn't have much trouble with either as it incentivizes you to explore. You get a lot of the important stuff when you go through the Aurora.

>>718388957 (OP)
that game got boring really fast.

>>718389173
What chirp? That's just the ambient noise. It's always like this

>>718406443
>>718406629
We can litrally see the player character's hands on the webm >>718389343 , which gives us the scale

Sorry but the Reaper Leviathan looks shark sized at most
For it to be the 180ft monster it's supposed to be in lore, it should look like the bottom pic here rather than the tom one.
And since making the player character this small feels kinda shit, increasing the size of the Reaper (and the depht of the water to have it fit in it) to have the same ratio is what should have been done.

>>718407616
Yeah at most it's a small orca

>>718407616
lol
good post

>>718391141
Funny because both those games have Shadow in the name. The Star Wars game is Shadows of the Empire.

>>718407616
You are a fucking idiot with no depth perception. The Reaper looks smaller because it's not right next to you. Here's an actual in game image showing how big it is right next to the player model. Haven't you ever been eaten by one in game? You see how big really it is when it grabs you.

Since when was subnautica a scary game? Everything has googly eyes or glows.

>>718408054
The reaper is what everyone is scared of. It doesn't have googly eyes, and it doesn't glow.

The crab squid was pretty scary too despite kind of googly eyes.

>>718407616
new "can't imagine an apple" just dropped

>>718388957 (OP)
Subnautica would be so cool if all the seamonsters weren't cartoons

>>718407616
you're double retarded. it's now readily apparent you've never played the game and that you have no depth perception whatsoever.
you think that reaper in the picture is two arms lengths away lmao.
Here is another photo of the player model next to the reaper model.

>>718408214
It has four giant eyes and big furrowed brows making a >:0 face at you, it looks completely ridiculous.

>>718391953
Have you taken your pills today?

What are some deepsea games I can play for spookies? Subnautica isn't particularly scary to me

>>718408378
>you think that reaper in the picture is two arms lengths away lmao.

Yeah because that's how it looks, regardless of how things are supposed to be canonically
>proceeds to post another non-game pic about the lore

>>718388957 (OP)
I've had this game in my backlog since release. I like survival crafting games, but have a real life fear of the ocean/sea and all the dangerous creatures in it. I have no problem with real horror games. I still hesitate to play this though. Do you get weapons to fight with at some point? That'd make me feel a little better.

>>718408545
>non game pic
>>718407993
it's literally the in-game models you rage baiting retard.

>>718408379
It has 4 giant scary shark eyes. Brows? >:0 face? I don't see any brows, that's just a shape made by the horn coming out of its head. I don't see an 0 face I see a mouth full of teeth that can chomp my body in half with one snap. It also has 4 giant grabbing pincers to immobilize me or my seamoth, and contrary to what some retards ITT are saying about its size, it's genuinely terrifying to see something that big moving aggressively underwater.

>>718407616
You're correct but scaling everything up that much would just make moving anywhere feel like absolute shit even with vehicles. Most games scale their enviroment down for the sake of gameplay, especiailly open world ones since half the gameplay is going from A to B

>>718407993
>You are a fucking idiot with no depth perception
tbf unless you're playing in VR no one has depth perception in this game, he's still an idiot to think that left looks "a little bigger" than right in >>718406407 tho

>>718408764
Not but the reaper is way too human faced for an alien fish, regular fish look more alien than him. >::D lookin ass.

>>718408686
>I like survival crafting games, but have a real life fear of the ocean/sea and all the dangerous creatures in it.
This game is tailor made for you. Seek no further spoilers. Take however long it takes. I too am afraid of the water and what it holds, top 3 game all time for me.

>>718408764
>and contrary to what some retards ITT are saying about its size, it's genuinely terrifying to see something that big moving aggressively underwater.
This is how I feel too. You could make the model a giant Micky Mouse swimming towards you, but because its in a massive body of water, it would scare me.

>>718408545
>Looks
Yeah, how it looks to you, because your brain is broken or you have severe misunderstandings about how big things are, as seen with your retarded Aircraft Carrier vs Aurora comparison which if you had ever seen a carrier in person you would know is retarded. Do you think tha "Jaws" was a typically sized great white? Do you think Megalodon still stalks the waves? Because that's the only way you could possibly think that the Reaper is shark sized.

>>718408920
Fuck it. I'll bite the bullet tonight. I'll get some liquor ready to help. Just in case.

>>718395479
Playing on a small computer monitor just makes things feel small. Even when things are the proper scale in game, they still fell smaller than they are.

>>718408686
Being afraid is what makes Subnautica such a good game. Play it.

Here's a video with the player's hands next to the Reaper's head (at the closest possible)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tpo5TaIHq_Q

Reaper's head looks nowhere near as big as it should look if the scale was >>718407993

>>718408827
Do you think depth perception is purely a function of stereoscopic vision? You can see depth in a fucking painting. Cover one eye. Does it become harder to judge distance? Yes. Does it become impossible? No. You also judge depth by comparing landmarks and familiar objects, which that guy is incapable of doing, either due to some mental deficiency or because he is unfamiliar with the objects in question.

>>718408848
I'd like to know what humans you've been looking at that have mouths like that. Actually, I wouldn't like to know them kn second thought.

>>718390873
I think you can swim under the ship to reach the front.

>>718396961
Me too, unknown things are scary

people are gonna be real shocked when they find out aliens been living under the oceans for a long time

>>718409113
A typically sized great white looks about as big as the creature on the top pic there >>718407616
A blue whale (which is way smaller than the Reaper Leaviathan's canonical size) would look much bigger for exemple

>>718409323
That IS the scale. That has more to do with being unable to get close enough to the reaper's hitbox. As close as you can get still isn't touching.

You can see the cyclops right? You can walk down its corridor, you can swim along it and see that it's much longer than 14 ft. You can also see the Reaper next to the Cyclops and see it's just about as long.

>>718406407
That's not an aircraft carrier..

>>718391063
What scares me about water is that I'm a land animal. I am not meant for that environment. I can't swim very well, so if I need to move its going to be slow, and if I stop moving I'll drown. I'm completely at the mercy of the water and whatever's in it.

>>718409625
Wrong again, retard

>>718391312
Do you want to take a trip to the bottom of the ocean? If so, have fun. I'll be up here breathing and walking around while you're hanging out with the Titanic sub guys.

>>718388957 (OP)
But it looks like this.

>everyone (devs included) agrees that everything in the game feels smaller than it should because of fov
>/v/ contrarians somehow pretends it's not a thing

>>718409998
If it's an FOV issue it's not a scale issue
Just change your FOV lmao

>>718409998
No, the issue is that things you think are huge aren't really that big, like sharks:>>718409772

>>718409598
I wouldn't doubt it. Just like in The Abyss. Plus a lot of UFO sightings are usually from navy ships reporting them coming from or going into the water. It's not too far fetched to believe sentient life spawned like us in a different environment. But if they did form in the ocean, they really wouldn't be aliens since they're native to Earth as well. Unless we consider them illegal aliens. But that's a whole 'nother thing.

>>718410313
They could still be extraterrestrial, they just build their bases in the ocean because humans will have a hard time bothering them there.

>>718410412
we have scans of the entire oceans floor though, I mean people do. Governemnt already searched all of the ocean.

>>718410487
>

>>718407993
This feels like a meme format. I don't know what message its conveying, but seeing that human blissfully unaware of the giant space shark behind him while there's an even bigger space worm behind that blissfully unaware shark feels like it could easily mean something.

>>718410412
I'm not denying that either. I just think it'd be more interesting to find out they're native just like us. If that happens, we may have to change the definition of Wetback.

>>718408214
Something ten times my size trying to eat me is always scary.

>>718410313
You would think more people would be talking about Abyss and Flight of the Navigator these days, considering the psyops going on right now.

>>718410487
Two things- scans are not the same as exploration. Scans can be defeated. UAPs exhibit behavior that indicate they can manipulate space. Concealing themselves from a scan is trivial. Scans do not provide perfect information. There are new things being discovered about the ocean floor all the time. We know more about outer space than we do the deep ocean.

Second.
Who say the gov't doesn't already know they are there?

>>718410487
Pretty sure like 70% of the ocean is still unexplored. Plus, even if we could scan all of it, a more advanced civilization could theoretically block or hide from our scanning technology. So we could never be certain.

>>718408686
>I still hesitate to play this though. Do you get weapons to fight with at some point?
No. The devs even went so far as to claim it was a political statement about how bad guns are, even though everyone can tell it was done for balancing purposes.

>>718410574
>There's always a bigger fish- Qui-Gon Jinn

>>718410725
I've completely forgot about Flight of the Navigator. I gotta go back and rewatch these films.

>>718409598
Why would they be there?

>>718410832
>Subnautica, shadows of doubt, hardspace shipbreaker
Devs need to learn to just shut the fuck up and code
>but muh message needs to g-
nigger if we wanted to read your manifesto we'd follow your dumb ass on bluesky
we don't

And yet they for some reason have a really hot mom.

>>718410412
Why though?

>>718410832
You get a stasis gun that you can use to freeze any leviathan and then carve it up with your heat knife. You can also make acid torpedos for the seamoth or the prawn suit, but you need to combine them with the cyclone torpedos to lock them in place and it's not very effective. You can also grapple onto them and either punch them or drill them to death.

But the most reliable way is to keep them stasis'd and slash them to death slowly. Which I think is hilarious.
>Guns? Inhumane! Think of the children! Sandy Hookah!
>Here use this *magic* gun instead. It stops time, like ZA WARUDO. Then just slowly carve the fish into sashimi with your knife. Much better.

>>718411038
>>718411198
Resources maybe? Maybe water isn't as abundant in the universe as we think. Maybe they're mining metals or rock underwater which they can do undisturbed. Maybe they're observing/studying us. Idk, lots of options though.

>>718411313
>It stops time, like ZA WARUDO.
The game needs a throwable knife mod

>>718411198
Prime vacation spot. Aliens go there and get human skin suits, then they go landside and enjoy our vibrant culture. Or they take tours of the Titanic wreck and laugh at the idiot humans who crushed themselves trying to do the same.

>>718411454
They Live or V

>>718410148
Sharks are difficult. Because they keep growing as they age and don't stop, they can get pretty big. However they use cartilage rather than bone, they can grow and shrink in size rapidly depending on conditions. For example, the largest female white shark recorded is Deep Blue at 6.4 m (21 ft), when pregnant like pic related. When she's not porked up she's only 5.8m (19 ft).

So consider now a fictional shark in JAWS.Iin the book he's a male shark at 6.1m (20 feet) but in the film he gets bumped up to 7.62m (25ft).

>>718411387
Resources are never a good bet. Water is absolutely abundant, we can see entire clouds of it. Unless an ftl species already gobbled it all up and the light showing just isn't going to get here for long time. But I think we'd notice if aliens were stealing our water.

Anything else at the bottom of the ocean would be easily found on numerous asteroids or uninhabited planets. Scientific research is a much better bet. The UAPs can travel through water like it's air. We can't do that. Therefore it's a much better place to base their craft out of for missions all around the globe than say, in a mountainside.

>>718411810
Even so, that is not a typical GWS as you well know.

>>718389173
But I did have breakfast.

>>718410809
There are anomalies on the ocean floor censored by Google, or whichever company/government that's capable of blurring out satellite images. Aside from said proposed stealth tech, there are huge patches of discovered locations that aren't accessible to public viewing.

>>718411387
>Maybe water isn't as abundant in the universe as we think
Even if its not abundant outside of our solar system, we know all the rocky planets in our solar system are lousy with it, not to mention all the comets which are made of it. Even discounting that, its just hydrogen and oxygen, the two most abundant elements in the universe. If they can achieve FTL they can synthesize water.
> Maybe they're mining metals or rock underwater which they can do undisturbed
Why not do that on Mars or on the moon or in their home solar system. Earth is made of the same stuff as all those other planets. The only difference is that we live here.
>Maybe they're observing/studying us
Seems like the only option to me. Any race that advanced would have no other reason to come to Earth.

But then question arises of why study us? Or how have they concealed their existence from us?

Even if they've got super advanced stealth tech now, they couldn't always have had it. At some point in history they would've been like us, screaming into the void with all their various radio transmissions for everyone to hear. And in space radio waves ten to stick around. Someone like SETI would've heard them.

And if the government is trying to keep them a secret, why? And how? You're telling me every government on Earth decided to cooperate just this once for this one thing and they've done it well enough for decades that the cat still hasn't gotten out of the bag?

And that's not even getting into whether or not FTL is even possible.

Its just easier to believe aliens don't exist, or are so far away that we'll never interact with them.

>>718411906
Sure. I just cited some examples. Photographic perspective, obviously is a huge difference maker. This is the same shark.

>>718405041
peak emergent gameplay
this would have been a scripted chase sequence in any other game

>>718412127
>And that's not even getting into whether or not FTL is even possible.
I always like to think that if FTL were possible, we'd be able to observe the past and actually see what happened. You'd just have to travel far far away from Earth where our light hasn't reached yet and just observe it. But that technology sounds unreal to me.

>>718403826
not exactly the same but UBoat and Iron Lung both invoke the fear of being stuck in a submarine

>>718412628
Assuming FTL were possible, that'd be really easy to do. We already observe events in the distant past all the time. We can see the beginning of the universe through our telescopes.

That's why I don't think aliens exist. We'd be seeing their history if they did.

>>718412127
Maybe Mars and the other planets aren't what we think they are

>>718411059
>Devs need to learn to just shut the fuck up and code
if it makes you feel any better the devs responsible got sacked by the publisher for neglecting their duties

Will they be able to create the same feeling of isolation and exploration from the first game? Hopefully they learned from the failures of Below Zero but somehow I doubt it.

>used to love swimming in the ocean and clam digging as a kid
>fucking terrified of the ocean now
goddamn it

>>718412798
>We already observe events in the distant past all the time. We can see the beginning of the universe through our telescopes.
I know, that's what led me to that train of thought. The images we see now from other galaxies are usually them from millions of years ago. But the light only just reached us this instant. For all we know, the galaxy could have formed habitable planets, had life, and then the sun dies out by the time we see the light from its creation. It's crazy fun to try and think how light works in the universe.

>>718412892
>he doesnt know
dont look up any news about the sequel

>>718412803
Why wouldn't they be? We've been to the moon and sent rovers to Mars and both confirm the existence of water and all the elements commonly found on Earth.

You're moving heaven and earth to make your explanation for UFOs work when we have a much simpler explanation has evidence directly supporting it. UFOs are a combination of people lying, misinterpreting things that they've seen, and the government using the hysteria to cover up its secrets. Those saucers and wedges from the 40s and 50s were spy balloons and stealth aircraft, the tic tacs of today are thermal signatures, either created by sophisticated E-war systems or simply made up as a psy op to distract people from real problems.

>>718412127
If they did have FTL, they could potentially fly ahead of their radio transmissions and block them, kek.

Also an alien life from may never have created radio comms. Maybe they don't even hear, maybe their communication is all light based.

>>718407616
It's just screens plus field of view plus weird view model size distortions plus most importantly nothing familiar to base it's scale on. If you saw it in VR you'd realize how big it is.
It's floating out in the water and your brain can't figure out how big it is because it's not next to something familiar like a building. When you see it holding the seamoth you instantly get it.

>>718413809
>they could potentially fly ahead of their radio transmissions and block them, kek.
How? Are they gonna build a Dyson sphere a couple hundred light years across, and do it before the light passes it?

>maybe their communication is all light based.
That's what radio is. Its photons being transmitted to convey messages. It doesn't matter whether those messages are text, sound, pictures, or computer data, its all radio if its done with radio waves.

>>718413318
Moon landing was faked. Mars rovers are on an island on earth that just looks like "Mars", they even photographed a rodent that coincidentally lives on that island and tried to tell you it was a rock. Space is fake. The firmament is real. You live on a flat world where the governments are ruled by Satan and lie to you to bring you further from God. "Aliens" and "UFOs" are just demons. Repent now.

>>718404646
>>718405342
Depends on how much and what type of radiation is being released. iirc the demon core experimenters saw a flash of blue light when the halves touched. So there may be some physical indicator, but largely no they wouldn't notice and would likely just get fucked up the same as humans.

>>718414428
How do round Earth and space disprove the existence of God?

I get its a videogame and not a 100% simulated ecosystem but its weird that reapers almost exclusively hung out where there is 0 food

>>718414638
There is no food when you arrive to the scene because the reaper destroyed the ecosystem

lorefags is the rest of the planet just abyss filled with ghost leviathans?

>>718414428
He's just a disinformation poster

>>718414198
Obviously when I say light based I mean visible light. An alien race that communicates with displays of color rather than vocalizations may not even conceive of using radio to communicate. They would develop laser based comms alternatively which due to their directionality would be much less likely to reach outer space with any coherence.

As to how they are gonna block it? That's above my pay grade! If they can do FTL they probably have a way to warp space, so they may have a way to collect and trap those pesky radio waves before they go places they don't want them going.

I can't design an FTL drive, so I'm the wrong one to ask as to how an FTL capable race would block radio waves. Try asking Harold White or that Alcubierre fellow instead.

The reason things don't appear to be their actual size is because of the camera, it makes many things seems smaller from your POV. If you spawn in Ryley's model next to the creatures you'll see the sizes are as advertised.

>>718409427
nigga, i believe you've been talking to a lost Warper lol

>>718414556
Because God tells us that the Earth has 4 corners and does not move. Therefore any model in which the earth is a round object (no corners) flying around the Sun is a Satanic lie. Heliocentric models also hearken back to pagan sun worship by placing the sun at the center of our system. Getting you to believe the first big lie (round earth, space, sub orbit) is the first step to getting you to the biggest lie of all, the rejection of God (atheism, satanism, secularism). It's no coincidence that Yuri Gagarin was quoted by the Satanic Soviet Union as saying "I see no God up here". It was a calculated lie. If Yuri did even go up at all, he certainly never breached the crystal dome of the firmament.

>>718414912
Lasers only work through line of sight though. There's a reason we use non-visisble wavelengths for everything, its because they have much, much longer range. In a society that communicates viable visible light there'd also be the issue that having lasers flashing all over the place would clutter up the visible spectrum and make it hard for people to hear and understand each other. Not to mention the risk of people getting blinded. Imagine if instead of radio, all non-verbal communication was done by audible code played over loud speakers. So now you have every phone and computer screeching dial up noise at each other, all the tv stations blaring their broadcasts including picture information out load, and every radio station playing at once.

>If they can do FTL they probably have a way to warp space, so they may have a way to collect and trap those pesky radio waves before they go places they don't want them going.
That's a big assumption stacked on top of another big assumption.

>>718415397
>Because God tells us that the Earth has 4 corners and does not move
What verse are you getting that from?

>>718415406
Nigha we're talking about hypothetical aliens with hypothetical warp drives, assumptions are a given. If you make no assumptions you can't speculate at all. Warp drives are a reasonable assumption to make because they're the only FTL method that's even close to possible at the moment, with tiny warp bubbles having been generated in a lab. Figure out out how to make wormholes and we can speculate on that.

As to your issue with laser comms, that's already an issue with radio transmissions, which is why they are regulated. Laser comms would obviously have channels and restrictions too to avoid mixups. The line of sight issue is resolved by relay stations.

Welcome aboard Captain, all systems online.

>>718415739
>As to your issue with laser comms, that's already an issue with radio transmissions, which is why they are regulated. Laser comms would obviously have channels and restrictions too to avoid mixups. The line of sight issue is resolved by relay stations
Its possible yes, but any suffiecently advanced civilization would discover radio waves before they invented radio, so why would they ever standardize on radio?

>Nigha we're talking about hypothetical aliens with hypothetical warp drives, assumptions are a given
I'm saying that its a lot easier so say there are no aliens on Earth than it is to say that aliens exist, FTL is possible, they have FTL, its specifically warp drives, they never used radio for communication, and they're hiding at the bottom of the ocean.

>>718416038
*so why would they never standardize on radio

>>718414129
>plus most importantly nothing familiar to base it's scale on

Bro, I do scuba diving and the scenery I see there (rocks, sand, aquatic grass...) pretty familiar.
It's the typical scenery of some 20 feet deep wtaer near the coast.
The thing is in the game it's supposed to be over 200 feet deep or some shit, but this is simply not how some 200 feet deep water would look.
It would be much darker, you wouldn't see anywhere near that far...
Like, if the Reaper Leviathan is 180 feet long as stated in lore, then that rock in the background (the one below the gasopod) would have to be some 400 feet away from you...
That's just not how it looks, sorry but it looks some 30 feet away at most.

Scale is just fucked

>>718416038
Well, someone's making these craft that do not follow known physical laws. If it's us, then our governments are concealing technology that could revolutionize our very existence and acting concerned about it like they don't know what it is.

>>718414129
>plus most importantly nothing familiar to base it's scale on

Bro, I do scuba diving and the scenery I see there >>718405986 (rocks, sand, aquatic grass...) is pretty familiar.
It's the typical scenery of some 20 feet deep water near the coast.
The thing is in the game it's supposed to be over 200 feet deep or some shit, but this is simply not how some 200 feet deep water would look.
It would be much darker, you wouldn't see anywhere near that far...
Like, if the Reaper Leviathan is 180 feet long as stated in lore, then that rock in the background (the one below the gasopod) would have to be some 400 feet away from you...
That's just not how it looks, sorry but it looks some 30 feet away at most.

Scale is just fucked

Is there any other ocean kino out there? Barotrauma was pretty fun coop and solo.

>>718416250
>Well, someone's making these craft that do not follow known physical laws
What if they're not craft that are breaking the laws of physics? What if they aren't actually doing what it appears they're doing. These "tic tacs: have only ever been seen on thermal imaging. Those could be some kind of decoy system meant to fool thermal cameras. Or the pilots who say them could merely be under orders to lie about what they saw and the footage we're seeing is manufactured.

"somebody lied" is a much simpler explanation than "everything we know about physics is wrong plus an incredibly implausible alien civilization exists plus they live under the ocean"

>>718405986
>>718395479
Is this the thread where anons realize theyre blind?

>>718416560
>These "tic tacs: have only ever been seen on thermal imaging.
That's not true, they have been witnessed visually as well. These objects have been being seen by military personnel, airline pilots and other reputable people who have been encouraged NOT to report, not to lie and claim it's aliens, for decades. All this has been known to the government, who treats these UAPs as a serious potential threat. They behave intelligently, they move in ways which are inexplicable to science, and they frequently observe or even interfere with nuclear power and weapons facilities.

Also, it doesn't mean that EVERYthing we know about physics is wrong. It means our understanding of physics is incomplete. Which it is.

>>718408686
damn thats some cool Zeruel cosplay.

>>718416279
Have you ever been on an alien world? How the fuck do you know how far their sun's light reaches in water? Maybe their sun is brighter.

>>718416279
30 ft is across the room. 30ft is how far away that reaper looks. You're retarded.

>>718416924
>That's not true, they have been witnessed visually as well.
Doing this behavior while being seen visaully? Do you have photographs? Can you prove these photographs are fake? How do we know these are all the same phenomena and a not a collection of different things misidentified as the same thing?

>military personnel
Capable of lying, imagining things, and misinterpreting things they've seen.
>airline pilots
Also capable of all those things.
>All this has been known to the government, who treats these UAPs as a serious potential threat
So they say, but they could be lying to use it as a cover for something.

>>718417280
*aren't fake

>>718416279
You understand that the Safe Shallows aren't uniformly 200 feet deep, yes? That 200 feet is roughly the maximum depth in some areas and that most of the zone is in the 10 to 50 foot depth range, yes?

>>718389343
>>718396031
Yeah, this.
I can't explain why but the scale of the ship somehow scares me more than the leviathan.

The Grassy Plateaus... Home...

>>718391573
Any webms?

>>718417280
>Photos
Exist but are difficult to verify among well poisoning fakes and even more so now with the advent of AI
>>military personnel
>Capable of lying, imagining things, and misinterpreting things they've seen.
>>airline pilots
>Also capable of all those things.
Individually? Yes. In aggregate? No. It's clear there is something being observed. You actually need a conspiracy theory to argue that all these people are making it up. Some of them certainly are, or misidentifying them. But even government attempts to debunk sightings, such as projects blue book and grudge, failed.
>So they say, but they could be lying to use it as a cover for something.
So yes, now we have a conspiracy theory that the government is trying to use UAP as a cover for something else- mind you that the government never says "it's aliens" but that considering UAPs observed and documented behavior, that NHI being behind them is not an impossible. So if the government is lying and using "aliens" as a cover for something, what?

If it's terrestrial craft, that is potentially even more sensational than aliens. If the government is hoarding tech that advanced and using it on secret, it's literally a crime against humanity that we can't have the abundant energy needed to power such craft, fast transportation, and many other technologies that could benefit humanity.

If it's just some benign natural phenomena, why cover it up? Again, the totality of evidence tells us something is there, but what?

>>718417204
30ft is how far the rock at the center of pic related is from the viewer
Which is about as far as the rock below the gasopod is from the viewer on >>718405986

>>718389343
the feeling in my chest and stomach that i felt seeing one of these slithering through the distant cloudy water is something i've never felt before or since.

>>718417934
No, that rock is closer. Photos are useless because of focal length anyway, that picture would not look the same from the POV of the photographer's eyes. Similar to the FOV in Subnautica fucking with people's sense of scale.

Reaper Leviathian a small ass nigga

>>718410313
>navy ships reporting them coming from or going into the water
more like a fly flew in front of their radar and got zapped by the heat, falling out of its vision.

Hello. Lovely evening for a swim, isn't it?

>>718417584
So what nigga?
Reaper Leviathan is 180 feet long and judging by >>718407993 its face (from chin to upper yes) is like 9ft high
So I seriously doubt the area on >>718405986 is supposed to be a mere 10 feet (or even 50 feet) deep given how small that Reaper looks in comparison to the depht

>>718418324
a little bitch ass minnow is what it really is

>>718406418
NTA, but you're retarded. A reaper is twice the size of a blue whale. The Fov in subnautica makes everything look a quarter of their real size.
The reaper does not look an inch over 40ft long.
(used amerigoylem units for you)

>>718395490
>t. man who will inevitably get eaten by a shark after pointing and laughing at it for "soifacing"

>>718418012
I had them spoiled for me so it wasn't completely unknown but the only thing that topped this was Dark Bramble in OW because I went in blind

>>718417862
>In aggregate? No.
I'd say in aggregate makes it less likely. The more people tells stories about tic tacs the more likely people are to think they've seen one. They're like sea monsters of old. People would see a piece of driftwood or a manatee and then think they saw a kraken, and it got to the point where hundreds of sailors had claimed they'd seen one.
>So if the government is lying and using "aliens" as a cover for something, what?
First thing that comes to mind is as a distraction from something that's not secret at all. These alien stories always seem to blow up whenever some big controversy is going on. And its a known fact that the government has heavy influence over the media. They could just grease some palms and invent some photographs to get a UFO craze going any time they want to change what the public discourse is for a while. Second answer is real military projects like stealth aircraft or decoy systems.
> If the government is hoarding tech that advanced and using it on secret, it's literally a crime against humanity that we can't have the abundant energy needed to power such craft, fast transportation,
That's assuming the craft use obscene amounts of energy or actually move that fast. If its a decoy system, then it need not be moving that fast or even be a physical object at all.

You say its craft moving at absurd speeds, taking crazy Gs, and then diving under the water. I'm saying its something else that merely appears to do that while in reality its doing something else.

>If it's just some benign natural phenomena, why cover it up?
Any cover ups are either people and organizations trying to save face by blaming mistakes and errors on unexplained phenomena. (such as the battle of LA, which was is all likelihood caused by a failure of communication during a gunnery exercise). It can also be the government seeing an opportunity and exploiting it.

(1/2)

>>718405986
>>718407616
>>718417934
>>718418324
>>718419093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99H_P3S0zWU
you a bitch nigger.
I am settling this.
in the pic the diver is 43 pixels from heel to head, roughly.
the jaws when closed are 236 pixels wide, with an extra 80 from the center of the joint to the tips of the mandibles.
body from nose to the tail tips is 1140 pixels.


lets say 42 pixels is 6 ft
the jaws when closed are 33.7 feet wide.
the length is fucking 162.8 feet long.
anyone else trying to argue can shut the fuck up about how their "diving experience" means anything in a video game world with altered FOV, altered occlusion from water thickness, etc.

Whomever was trying to bait and say its really small can shut the fuck up now.

Gyarados > subnautica's garbage monsters

>>718419712
nah the camera is just really close to the trout-sized lookin-ass "leviathan" and the player model is really far away. can't trick me

>>718419712
Do... do you think I think that the game model, in game is not 180ft long? because I know it is. I'm saying the game's Fov makes it look diminutive. It's like those ultra wide shots you take when you are selling a house that puts the entire room in frame.
The Fov paired with the insane view distances makes the leviathans look tiny.
If you thought my point was that the in game models were not accurate to the listed size, then you're an actual retard my guy.

>>718418012
Ironically, that's where it's clearer to see them than anywhere else.

>>718419527
creating smoke where there's no fire to distract people from the smoke that does have fire.

We've know that when those "flying saucers" were being developed, the Air force was using surveillance balloons to spy on the soviet's nuclear program, and that they had other low flying surveillance balloons that they were experimenting with, and that they were testing saucer shaped hover craft at the time. And we know that when those wedge UFOs were sighted the air force was testing wedge shaped stealth aircraft like the prototypes that would lead to the F-117, B2 prototypes, and even later prototypes for the F-22. Even their strange abilities like the ability to stop and hover mid air can be explained by drones flying in formation which they were testing at the time and and designs for v-tol capable wedge shaper aircraft some companies were working on at the time.

Even things like foo fighters were likely a combination of glare, ball lightning, and experimental drone aircraft.

In all likelihood these tic tacs are a combination of misindentified natural phenomena, people's imagination acting up, government psy ops, and experimental aircraft and decoy systems, which have lead to people believing that there are tic tac shaped UFOs buzzing around that can submerge themselves in water, do hypersonic speeds, and can stop and turn on a dime.

>>718391063

I went on a cruise after playing Subnautica for the first time. Im usually a little paranoid before going on cruises but I was damn near tweaking this time.

>Cant sleep so I go to the cafeteria so I dont disturb my family
>Sit down with some food and dessert
>Get the bright idea to look out the window
>Its not dark blue, ultramarine, or whatever. Just black abyss everywhere
>Look up towards the horizon/sky and again nothing
>Theres some stars at least?
>Imagination kicks into overdrive. Consider the possibility that below this ship its 3000m till the sea floor
>PANIC
>For a moment my legs wobble and my equilibrium fucks up
>Collapse while in a god damned chair
>Need to get back to my room asap
>New Objective: SURVIVE

That night was horrible but I still love cruises though. Am I retarded?

>>718420159
yes

>>718419959
>>718420001
I don't care what any baiting niggers or coping retards are crying about.
I measured it, I settled it.
All of you can shut the fuck up now.

>>718419712
Your pic doesn't prove shit
We all know how big the Reaper is SUPPOSED to be and the fact the models in game reflect this.
This issue is that the way the played ACTUALLY sees things is not scaled to his supposed size compared to the environement.
So everything looks small in comparison.
The fact the underwater is super bright (even at a 200ft depht) and the fact you can see super far away also doesn't help make the world feel as big as it should

>>718420215
sure thing tadpole lover

>>718414882
No actually. As evident by Below Zero where there's a whole arctic and a lot of different stuff there. But specifically in the void around the volcano, there's ghost leviathans.

>>718416239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEzYsaLm7nw&list=PL4bHEJzK_L98-TFD3LI383WqrrhnXwOid&index=2

>>718420159
Being scared on a cruise ship because of subnautica is pretty weird.
Personally I'm scared on big ships because I once was on a ferry that tilted harshly (to the point the kitchenware and the cafeteria fell and broke) to avoid some retarded sailing ship.
That day I realized these super tall ships call very easily capsize to the side and that if it happens I'll just be powerlessly crushed.

>>718420159
>>718420656
remember that one nigga who survived in a capsized ship for days by swimming into an air pocket and making a makeshift raft to rest on while everyone else in his crew drowned outside and he could hear sharks or some shit swimming around the outside and finally he got rescued. and then he became a diver afterwards lol

>>718420656
But what if the ship drifts into an ecological dead zone?!

>>718420863
just fly

>>718399639
>>718400357
I managed to casually swim around the water at Hydro and made it to the Voussoir tower multiple times and never encountered the damn thing. Then like 30 hours of playtime later I'm gathering some reservoir growth and not only do I see the fucker for the first time, it lunges at me (and glitches through the textures).

>>718420959
>soothing water level music
>mysterious blip sounds
>giant rape mouth attacks me
:(

Very nice reaper fags... HOWEVER

>>718420280
>>718420291
I don't care what any baiting niggers or coping retards are crying about.
I measured it, I settled it.
All of you can shut the fuck up now.

>>718420215
>Fov issues and high underwater visibility causes in game models to look small
>Retard thinks people think the issue is that the models are smaller than advertised, even when FoV are being brought up as a culprit
>Spends way way too long to count pixels to settle an argument that was entirely in his own head
So you're retarded to the degree you willingly ignore the fact that you did not understand what was wrong with the way leviathans look to small in game?

Peak schizo retardation lmao, go be angry and ashamed of yourself.

>>718421237
This tiny creature looks like the moray eel I encountered the other day

>>718421237
this thing would need to eat like 10 billion calories a day to maintain itself

>>718421346
No, I am a third party who came in, looked for a vid, and spent 5 minutes measuring and typing.
you don't have to count pixels in MS paint, you just draw a line and look at the measurement count in the corner of the screen.
refer to these if there is any further confusion.
>>718420215
>>718421332

>>718421435
Duh
That's why they're all dead!

>>718421332
bet you're scared of goldfish too huh
bet you can't go to the aquarium section at petco without pissing yourself

>>718420656

Just reiterating. Im a little scared of cruise ships normally. Its like a fear of flying that you get over when youre finally on the plane. But after playing Subnautica and I went on the cruise I was hyperfixating on every other thing. So Subnautica didnt make me scared of boats, it just dialed it up a bit.

>>718420442
Perfect gif for that song. Absolutely kino post

I've never learned how to swim.
I've always had a petrifying fear of bodies of water. I can't even stomach going to the pool.

>>718420442
I think I heard that in a sovietwave playlist lmao

>>718410832
A shame since the in-game explanation is perfectly valid for a shit corporation such as Alterra. TLDR they deleted all blueprints for lethal weapons (excluding the knife) after it was used to mass-produce weapons for massacre on another planet.
Then the devs had to instead bring up their political opinion. I already knew the game was going downhill after firing the their sound designer for having a slightly different political opinion than them, and it fucking sucks to be right with how Below Zero turned out.

>>718421237
Shenron looking ass

>>718421510
Both in planes and cruise/ferry ships, my fear is the same:
The fact my life is in the hands of a stranger and that if he goes full retard I'll die without being able to do anything about it

>>718421624
Useless human being
Fake adult

>>718421624
Your fear of the deep dark abyss is completely irrational.
Learn to swim and you will see it is perfectly safe.

>>718421624
how brown are you?

>>718421624
Sucks to be black

What are some other open-world survival crafting that aren't slop? The Raft?

>>718388957 (OP)
I just recently replayed the original game. I had played it about 10 times in each stage of early access, so never bothered to enter the final alien facility and do the needful and then escape afterwards.

It was a nice game, but I wish we had others with similair gating mechanisms and exploration. And maybe a mech suit that shoots god rods or flechettes.

I hope BC piezophile is real and will release but I think it will be more getting lost in a level / falling down simulator / X lore and not at all like subnautica. So really the inclusion of the gun may not matter.

>>718389173
>brekkie
Anyone who uses this retarded word deserves the rope

>>718390873
If I recall, the rear ship entrance used to exist in early access. It was removed, so you have to go front of the ship. Bring extinguishers and a gravity gun (possible to bypass with no gravity gun if you are a real parkour gamer).

There is a sort of mountain range / cliff closely aligned parallel to the rear of the ship there. As long as you dont cross that point you are generally safe. The front of the ship can also be a little dangerous depending how far out you go, so be underwater and hug the ship and when it starts to be broken apart you can slip in then surface to find the ramp up with all the longleg hoppers.

>>718421967
They're all more or less the same, just a different story. Subnautica is unique in that levels are vertical and half the game is figuring out what to even do. Even then, Subnautica becomes hoarding simulator to make the end game stuff once you get to the river.

>>718422309
Yeah. I don't know why people say the front is dangerous. There can be two reapers there, but they can't follow you into the ship part. The holes there are a bit misleading because you can get stuck or can't slip through.

>>718420110
Are all your references to UAPs from like 70 years ago? There's videos every month of massive near-invisible slow moving aircrafts shot from multiple angles. The reoccurring shapeshifting plasma sightings, Miami mall antarctica teleporting, group UAP sightings around Nevada deserts in 2024, those weird plasma figures in Mexico, etc. Not implying I believe in any of them but tic-tacs and foo fighters are just two phenomena that don't appear in present day either.

>>718423791
I mentioned historical cases like foo fighters to show how these sorts of things are always some sort of other phenomena being ascribed to super advanced alien craft.
> but tic-tacs
Those show up int the news a lot to this day. And most of the UFO discourse I hear these days is about them.
>There's videos every month of massive near-invisible slow moving aircrafts shot from multiple angles
Those are drone formations. That's why the "aircraft" is near invisible. Its not there. Just a bunch of drones with lights on them flying in formation.Why? Some jackass wanted to make a UFO hoax.
>The reoccurring shapeshifting plasma sightings, Miami mall antarctica teleporting
Never heard of these ones
> group UAP sightings around Nevada deserts in 2024
I automatically write off anything in Nevada due to all the schzos there and the air force bases where they test USAF projects

>>718395398
Last part is true as fuck. As a sperg, I can 100% understand why people feel the way they do, I just don't fucking care.

>emits a generic lion sound then wiggles toward you
Name a worse enemy design

>>718405986
anon...

>>718426369
I hate this fucker. Avoid him like the plague because he's so loud. I accidentally built a base near one where you go towards the blood kelp and he's always spawning.

>>718421624
learning to swim can be really fun
im not a very strong swimmer at all, my gf is better than me, but i still like going for a bit of a paddle from time to time

>>718388957 (OP)
>what if you couldn't see anything?
Awful. There are enough biomes that lower the view distance to simulate particulates in the water.

>>718415813
>Fills the picture frame files with Alberto Vargas pinup girls and plasters them them all over the sub
I am now comfy enough to go to the depths

>>718389273
one drop detection method similar to asking about chirping hallways

There hasn't been a single player game as good as the first subnautica in a very long time. All the games in the world devs could rip off and it will be other generic shit and not this.

>>718423512
I am pretty sure ive had a bug where they get extremely close especially if you aggro them at the front. But that may have been in a previous version i dont know.

Game is kinda buggy sometimes especially since leviathans can clip into the terrain.

>>718395398
God that's dark. The average IQ is 100, the vast majority of people are closer to losing their humanity than they are to people who keep all this shit running. They were right in the 19th, we should have been artificially selecting for intellect, one deviation higher at least.

>>718421967
For water-based ones, I do like Sunkenland and Raft. The former is kinda sloppy but it hits a particular niche I enjoy. Sons of the Forest is really good if you enjoy camping and gunning down cannibals alongside your mutant wife.

>>718389173
How the fuck is this relevant to what was posted? You're just as stupid as the people this quote is related to.

>>718409943
this wetsuit is literally the sexiest outfit a woman can wear

>>718427317
This one is a cool concept, but it looks unfinished.

>>718427426
It really is funny how when you can't see anything but the air bubbbles.

>>718401425
2D is difficult at showing scale. Playing in VR terrifies me a bit.

why is like 90% of this thread just one guy sperging out about his lack of depth perception

>>718421967
Planet Crafter is the only one I’ve played that comes close to the same feeling. It not as polished though. Abiotic Factor is a good game, but a bit different in whats it’s trying to do. Similar itch though.

Anything else is slop or EA jank.

>>718432150
It's a big problem in Subnautica that makes it feel less scary and cartoony. It's why being attacked by a shrimp boy is nothing compared to teeth boy.

>>718421967
I really wanted to love Forever Skies, but it doesn't hold up as much. Granted this was in early access when I played, I don't know how much they've added since then.

>They patched out reaper surfing
The absolute state of these fucking cucks.

>>718421967
Empyrean with Reforged Eden 2

>>718412862
and then tried to launch a online rumor via social media how the poor little devs got fucked by big, bad publisher (who fired them) for an absurd sum in bonuses that was 10x higher then the previous recorded record of bonus pay in industry

such a cringe and blatantly obvious slander. reddit, of course, ate it up in spades

>>718413158
million of years are nothing for evolutionary scale. Homo sapiens is barely 200 000 year olds. All mammals, which includes the human monkey, evolved from a rodent sized rat 65 million years ago. when the dinos got wiped out by the Chicxulub extinction event that killed 75% of species. before that dinos roamed the earth for hundred of millions of years so any ayy lmao looking at earth with impossibly good resolution will see right now big monsters stomping around the planet

main argument against sitting in the exact same (universal) nano second as another intelligent and advanced species is space TIME. the distances and timeframes itself become so gigantic that its impossible for two ayy lmaos species from separate origins to exist in the same frame

>>718418534
>WARNING: ENTERING ECOLOGICAL DEAD ZONE
>*distant ethereal screeching*

>>718437860
I though modern humans were a million years old.

>>718438524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M05Tr-0TCg

>>718438524
>distant

>>718426369
god the creature designs are so uninspired and cartoonish. So much wasted potential. I don't know if I hate these things or the fucking gas mask manatee more.

>>718391312
Yeah. Uh-huh. You gonna tell me to swim closer too?

>>718389173
based retard

>>718395479
Try it in VR. If there's one thing VR effortlessly does it's that it makes the scale of things in game worlds feel more 1:1 with their intended model sizes vs trying to adjust fov to feel right and relying on devs using clever lod tricks to make distances believable

What if Subnautica looked like this?

>>718443129
I can't even imagine the horror this game is in VR. You don't want to look behind you without VR, with VR? I think I'll just chill in the shallows.

>>718392147
yea, instead it has a stupid butt chin

>>718443698
Is this better?

>>718443441
I won't lie, it's fucked. In the normal game I felt like an untouchable big man in my cyclops when gunning it past leviathans, but in VR there was still always an ever present uncomfortable gut feeling from just being able to look out at them from the cockpit, it's like your brain is able to mentally register just how big they really are compared to you or the cyclops much easier.
I imagine it's the same kind of feeling marine biologists get in research subs deep down looking at sleeper sharks and shit.

>>718420280
>The fact the underwater is super bright (even at a 200ft depht) and the fact you can see super far away also doesn't help make the world feel as big as it should
That's called forgoing realism for better gameplay experience. And when your not in the Deep Grand Reef, Lost River, and Lava Zones, it does get suitably dark from depth or at night.

>>718389201
>>718389259
more like a diptwit thread

>>718440995
>implying it’s ever just "distant"
nah man, that screech is already inside your head, echoing around like you just cracked your helmet open in the void. every time I hear it in-game I instinctively whip around like some deep-sea crackhead, fully expecting a Reaper to be flossing 2 meters behind me.

>>718421237
>are you certain that*kzzztcracklebzzrrt*you are ready to die?
>I know you are reading this

>>718442696
How eldritch and realistic should they have been?

>enjoyed Subanutica but once you do everything and explore around, not much else is new
>Below Zero wasn't that good, but it's at least a different map and some new things to explore, didn't really like the aesthetics of it though and didn't like being dragged through a story that I didn't care for
>Subnautica 2 is looking to have a fucked up development and will probably crash and burn on release

man

>>718421967
I really enjoy The Long Dark but it's very minimal on the crafting elements. A lot of it is you scavenging for shit and learning your way around and not get owned by the wildlife. I like it a lot because it's comfy getting a stockpile and getting to shelter while there's a big blizzard going on outside.
there's a story mode too but no one plays that shit but they keep updating it lmao

>>718438748
Modern humans are only about 300k years old. Earliest humans 2-3 million. We're the new kids on the block, only left Africa about 100k years ago. Must have been wierd and scary sharing the planet with 8 other species of humans. I bet they all fucked.

>>718448329
What the fuck were we doing for 290,000 years until we decided to write things down? Also why are we the only species of the 6500 mammals that have permanent titties? These questions are fascinating to me

>>718389545

And you expose yourself as a midwit for not understanding the larger implications of the question in understanding race and IQ and societal issues all determined by the answer.

>seems like it's going to be subnautica PSX edition
>it's actually extremely comfy and chill
For me it's far sky

>>718389173
Is it still breakfast if you sleep through the entire day and start with dinner?

mating with Stalkers

>>718437860
I hate these fuckers so much, they're useless

>>718388957 (OP)
Would better. Never cared about it because it was too goofy. >>718450190 Is way better, had a lot of fun playing it because it's atmospheric as fuck, even scary at times.

>>718445896
I don't know if I wish Reapers and the other creatures would migrate around the map. Knowing they're locked to a little patrol region and won't ever leave removes a lot of tension because after a little while I knew exactly where to avoid and I don't think I was ever surprised by a reaper past the Aurora. That might be a blessing though, the game is still extremely stressful.

>>718454151
Subnautica doesn't have much replay value, so by the time you learn the Reapers are more or less locked on patrol paths, you've pretty much played the game out anyway.

>>718389173
How embarassing.

>>718389343
Why is this game so good, bros?

>>718412783
Sitting on the sea floor while a destroyer goes right over you is balls-in-your-throat tension, every time.

>>718454905
I figured it out pretty early on since my initial base was sort of kind of near a Reaper and every time I slowly approached the area he was still there. I don't think the devs could've managed wandering behavior anyway, the leviathans already clip through the ground like it's open water.

the original Subnautica is one of the best gaming experiences i ever had. i revisited it a few months ago for the first time since 2018 and the few new additions were nice. it didnt have quite the same impact this time around but the reapers and darkness of it all still provided really tense moments. i dont think it could ever compare to that first playthrough but thats just the way of it i suppose.

on that note i also played below zero for the first time and it had zero tension for me. it's crazy how much they tried to change the formula and make it more inviting. the story was a complete mess too with like 3 different disjointed plots going on at the same time and with points that gave you little to no direction. idk how they managed to fumble it so hard and it's got me worried for subnautica 2. shame really

>>718389343
The monster doesn't scare me. The nearly infinite horizon of the ocean does.

>>718407993
>>718407616
the game literally has an FOV issue, arguing about it is worthless

>>718389273
People with very low IQs are unable to engage in counterfactual thinking. This mostly means niggers. The breakfast question is basically a way of reminding people that niggers are so dumb they aren't suitable to live in our societies.

Most jeets too, tbqh.

>mercenary lady not only survives getting dragged into the fucking void while fighting a reaper she also manages to not die from the virus despite not having the cure
Defend this.

>>718455841
it's an autism test you false flagging mossad agent

>>718455013
Simon Chelynski's music, mainly.

>>718389173
>brekkie
wait what ?

>>718455936
Chekie brekie damke.

>>718455898
No, because many non-autistics are still able to engage in counterfactual thinking. So failing the breakfast question doesn't necessarily mean a person isn't autistic, just that they're a retard.

>>718449478
and (You) expose yourself as a dimwit for not understanding that negroids are dumber by default. you don't need a retarded question to know that

>>718391869
But Aliens is much better than Alien.

>>718443698
Anon you're looking in the mirror again.

>>718455881
Ghost Leviathans live a long time and are exposed to Peepers carrying Enzyme 42 out of the vents as juveniles in the Deep Grand Reef. What's her face was eating that Leviathan the entire time, how she survived after that is indefensible.

>>718412783
Iron Lung is pretty cool

>>718389173
But I did have a vb long neck at twenty to eight in the morning.

>>718395445
>Yeah you know this thing that everyone says? I DONT say that. Aren't I very interesting? How about this OTHER thing? Oh yes...I'm very cool and interesting and different. My mommy says so.

Stupid faggot.

>>718388957 (OP)
it would be good
fuck the disney aesthetics, fuck the fact you can't hunt the big creatures for food

>>718395424
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rip_tide

>>718396031
for me its seeing the parts that are under the surface

>>718454151
They can leave though. Usually it’s because you dragged it out. It won’t go back either.

>>718456754
oh no, rip tide? the thing that is defeated by swimming parallel to the shore? OH DEAR GOD NO

>>718456772
>>718458601
spoopy

>>718407616
Are the devs secretly lurking this thread?
Why is there a retard arguing against this? The game is literally garbage at showing the correct scale.
There's a reason everyone gets surprised at how big the Leviathans really are when they're shown the player model in 3rd person.

>>718460670
Satisfactory has the issue btw
I don't know why indie devs can't figure FOV out

>>718450216
How do you know it was dinner?

>>718455997
Shashka blyat, time for stalker breakfast. Canned tushonka and irradiated vodka, just like babushka used to make.

>>718407241
Bro
I wasn't aware and it was my first voyage.
I also wasn't aware of the storms and the waves.
When traversing a bay that was large enough to be contain an ocean biome in the middle, the storm hit and threw me around, while reducing my vision greatly and then a sea monster chased me.
Almost shit my pants.

>>718404646
Water is great at radiation shielding. Unless it ate a piece of graphite, it would be totally fine.

>>718458841
I'd like to see you be as cavalier when you're 1000 feet away in the open ocean from the beach where you were swimming 2 seconds ago.

>>718416545
I know it's been memed to death, but the later parts of SOMA is the best deep sea kino I've played. The abyss section especially. Subnautica and SOMA are the only games (I can think of) that has 'Marianas trench'-like sections.

>>718449326
>why are we the only species of the 6500 mammals that have permanent titties
Probably part of the water ape hypothesis.

>>718429895
I gotta get back into this. Have they added anything new since the log cart?

>>718462068
>pic
Alt+F4 material right there.

>>718405986
They made a mod for you.

>>718408474
Soma
Narcosis

Is anybody actually excited for Subnautica 2?

>>718463132
>Subnautica 2
Literally never ever. Even if it were to come out it will be a sghetti UE5 riddled mess.

>>718454151
During EA they had more randomized spawn points, and actively chased other fish around instead of patrolling in circles.
Your starting position was also semi-random (but always shallows).
This, combined with the fact that they spawned in groups (of 3 I think) around aurora meant that you could meet 1-2 reapers five minutes into the game.
Something like this happened to me, had to hide in my lifepod for 30+ minutes while reaper was pushing it around (it wasn't glued to one spot back then) before it finally fucked off or despawned.
By then we were halfway to floating island.

>>718463349
You know, considering that original team fired Subnautica's brilliant composer over some hateful posts, and how much they started pushing DEI by the end of Subnautica's development cycle (even more so in Below Zero).
This might be the one and only case where a takeover like this will actually help save the franchise.
Bonus points for Krafton being a Korean company that cares less about DEI bullshit.

>>718391063

Being afraid of things that can kill you is natural, but it's really about perspective. Is there a reason to be in the deep ocean? Is there a reason to descend to its depths? If there is, then you prepare for them, otherwise, don't go there and it can't harm you.

I feel the same way about East Brooklyn, and my solution is I don't go there.

>>718443313
Underrated

>>718462817
What am I looking at here?

>>718389343
When I went to the Aurora the first time I just kept my head above the water and prayed.
These fucking reapers had me too scared.

>Subnautica
I consider it the scariest game of all time but apparently come anons consider it a "cozy" game

>>718464387
save it from fucking what? being made by people who give a shit? You can't even see the player character, it doesn't matter what race or sex they are, you culture warriors are fucking retarded

>>718468252
retard

>>718468069
The only way I ever felt safe in the water if I kept hugging the bottom of the ocean

>>718463132
Below Zero was so disappointing it stopped the hype on the spot. I'll keep track with development, but I don't know whether to be optimistic or not.
>>718463349
It's not like the original Subnautica wasn't a buggy mess anyway.

>>718467971
A hugeass leviathan destroying a ship instead of the gun doing so

>>718388957 (OP)
But it does?

>>718389173
absolute retard soils his pants in front of EVERYONE

>>718463132
Unironically yes, they fired the faggot devs that ruined below zero

Reaper Leviathan is the best looking creature
I want one as pet

>>718468069
It’s weird how this one simple trick really is a life saver. Staying on the surface is almost always safe. I don’t know for how far though, but it should be safe even above the void.

>see streamer play it
>never see a leviathan, but hear about it
>streamer always scared of stuff
>"fuckin pussy"
>"game looks cool"
>start playing it
>wander off to sandy zone because seems like the entry point to ship
>see leviathan approach in the distance, behind sand clouds

I truly did not think this was a horror game until I started playing it. Shat myself. Also happened when I dove into an deeper area with thorny plants in the dark and a creepy music started playing.

>>718443313
Fucking kek

>>718443129
wait? what tricks are needed to maintain scale perception?

>>718462035
a riptide that strong would be VISIBLE anon

>>718410832
as political statements go, that is pretty dumb.

The game is better for being gunless (and would be better without the stasis gun). But if anything the game makes a statement against gun control rather than for it, as human lives could have been saved if others could have shot at the warpers

>>718474863
If you play it as an action game instead of a roguelite you figure out pretty quickly there isn't much gameplay and none of the enemies are a threat once you know their attack patterns.

It's a cool walking simulator though.

I always felt the kind of fear in water areas in Daggerfall too. Is it just because you know something could be coming from 3D different directions and both game ui and mammal ape lymbic system is poorly equipped for tracking threats in such an environment?

>>718479149
I want to fuck that thing

>>718464387
>save the franchise

It isn't a franchise until it has a second good game. Until then, it's a one hit wonder.

It's extremely unlikely that other people can recapture what 5 years of early access and a unique mix of leftie utopianist design and rightie fashwave beats was able to be. A last remnant before the culture war seperated the camps.

>>718467971
it's the mod with bigger leviathans.

>>718417712
Megalophobia. I have it too, it prevents me from playing space games because the giant scale of everything spooks me.

Quite fascinating to see how one retard can derail an entire thread.

>>718481737
>>718417712
>>718396031
We need more open sea horror games with giant ships

>>718481737
Yup

That ending was rather abrupt.

I hate the deep sea and everything in it

>>718392373
trypophobia in people most likely developed to combat skin infections and various diseases spreading

>>718462068
treasures of the deep on ps1 had a level like that, it was pitch black except the lights from your sub or any flares you had - really creepy level, that whole game was mostly creepy stuff if the ocean spooks you
worth emulating at the very least to experience it - can easily finish the game in a weekend since it's only like a dozen or so levels unless you are secret hunting

>>718484615
I thought it developed from prolonged exposure to reddit

>>718471051
>>718462817
Does this mod at least address the plothole in the story?
The main reason for not being able to leave the planet was the gun, but without it around and being replaced by a leviathan, what happens then? We can't just cure the problem away with the enzyme.

>>718479287
It's a survival game. You just need to avoid the worst predators, collect resources, eat food and breathe.

>>718486879
The survival aspect is even more trivial than combat because you have infinite food and water which respawn much faster than you can consume them, and you're never forced to make long one way trips where it's possible to run out of air. The only limit is the player's patience.

It's fundamentally a walking sim with pretensions to several other genres.

>>718421967
Valheim is good, look at it and you'll be able to tell if it's your kind of game immediately.
Barotrauma has already been mentioned but the same people are making Frostrail now, a train game that looks promising.

>>718477774
atmospheric hazing (anti-soul gas) at varying levels in the distance to obfuscate finer details and make things look farther away, things like that.

>>718389343
I procrastinated going into deep water for so goddamn long because I heard one leviathan roar and decided that I really needed to spend the next several sessions renovating my house in shallow tropical waters.

>>718418012
What freaked me out is that from a distance the first time I saw one I thought its mandibles were arms. Like it was a giant merfolk reaching for me.

>>718420850
>and then he became a diver afterwards
Jesus. I'd never go near open water again.

>>718481737
Interesting. I've never dabbled in space games honestly.
Any in specific that have those fuck huge structures like you describe?

>>718417712
>>718481737
I understand that in terms of giant creatures or the unknown of massive dark spaces, but do you feel that way when walking past things like mountains or skyscrapers?

>>718426369
if i was making subnautica, i'd have strict respawn limits on every enemy so you could extinct annoying fuckers like this
it'd be easy to implement and track with the lore, there's what 15 reapers left, maybe there's 40-100 of these guys

>>718489102
>It's a walking sim if you ignore the mechanics and enemies and everything
Yeah no shit retard? You could literally say any game with movement is a walking sim if you categorize them like that

>>718491551
the ship somewhat spooks me being an unknown entity that's so massive, but i know what skyscrapers and mountains are made of, i know there aren't dragons in mountains so there's no point searching for my gold in there

>>718474863
That dark area with thorny plants and red bulbs and white mushrooms has the best horror mood I've seen in vidya. No jump scares, no leviathan, just chill spooky vibes.

>>718492046
How bout weird megastructures like Blame?

>>718492467
this area's kino but every time i play subnautica i have to relearn the streaming config format so i can pump up the draw distance here, it's way too blatant in this specific area how small it is

>>718491947
There's barely even any walking in it, it would be a swimming simulator if anything

>>718388957 (OP)
The game is kino. All the exploration and the fear of the depth moments are insanely good. The thing I don't get is:
>Let's make a sequel with none of the good things lol
whatever happened there

>>718463829
They're not supposed to, but reapers can sometimes wander outside their zone, especially if they follow you as you flee. Normally they will head back to their territory, but I did have a reaper show up in the shallows once after coming back from the aurora. I shat brix

>>718439083
Kek, this is pretty much what happened to me except I didn't glitch out and I 'accidentally' just jumped into the void

bump

>>718448329
>Must have been wierd and scary sharing the planet with 8 other species of humans
What would be the practical difference between that and the different races we have now? Most of those "different species" don't even fit the definition of separate species since they were able to produce fertile offspring with modern humans.

>>718491947
You can easily ignore all the enemies and mechanics. A slow witted child could break Subnautica. If you evaluate the game by the actual game parts it's complete shit. The value is in the aesthetic experience, aka walking simulator.

>>718492830
Woke artschool zombies don't realize the first game was only good because of things they couldn't do.

>>718492830
My guess is they thought people liked the first game because of the story and characters, which couldn't be further from the truth because those assholes can't write their way out of a cardboard box.

>>718492830
The worst part is the concept artist they got to do creature designs for the sequel is really good and completely wasted. Perfect blend of stylized, but still intimidating. There's nothing cartoonishly dumb looking like the Stalker or gas brappers.

>>718426369
It's actually one of my favorite because of the discrepancy between their intimidation factor and actual threat. It looks scary, it acts scary, and it's a complete shitter. It has the weakest AI of Subnautica critters and obviously by design. It has everything to be scary except intelligence, it's dumb as fuck, which makes it a non-threat. It just burst from the sand, it tries to bite your estimated position assuming you swim in a straight line, and all you have to do is deviate your course and watch it go GNEH GNEH GNEH chomping the empty water like a blind drunk. They have very obvious visual and audio cues to tell you in advance when to perform the minimal amount of dodge which turns them from scary to joke. You rarely swim in a boring straight line when exploring the bottom of the sea floor since you're typically looking around for resources, which means you will often end up hear them pop up and see them just flail around with 0% accuracy and slink back in shame, not anywhere near you, without you actively bothering to dodge them. My nephew (age 12) was scared of them until I pointed that out, and soon enough the next time it popped my nephew was like "yooo wassup sand shark you suuuck", watching it go GNEH GNEH GNEH, completely missing, and sliding away in shame.

>>718403371
he's probably right though, the devs seem to have NO CLUE WHY the first game was so popular.

>>718433524
It's still just really mid. Bought it with friends but it's not special in any way. Shame because the concept was so good. if it leaned slightly more towards subnautica and slightly less towards raft it could have really hit something special assuming it was significantly less jank


>>718427317
Nothing like subnautica at all but very fun. Might go back and 100% it.

>>718480062
Yeah, that’s why Subnautica gets less stressful once you have a beacon that can scan for all life forms.

>>718388957 (OP)
If subautica had an old school valve Portal 2 level of quality I bet it would be so good.

I heard you dont even get to go into that crazy ship and theres not much story so I lost all interesting

>>718492830
Below Zero still has good exploration. The land segments are a bit unnecessarily long because of how weather and temperature works, but it’s still a pay off to walk all the way to the cave. The game’s story makes exploring a little different because you can head in three directions, but overall going deeper is the same deal to find what the game wants you to find.

>>718505248
learn english, but also the game got patched somewhat recently and went to 2.0 and became good
and yes you go in the giant ship, you always have, idk where you got the idea you don't, it's required to finish the game and happens fairly early

>>718388957 (OP)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH FUCK FUCK

>>718505984
It's just a bunch of empty hallways and no characters

>>718502308
No clue and not interested to find out why after the gaiden flopped.

I really liked the game in VR. It's fucking wild. The only problem was it had a lot of pop in issues with render distance but to be fair this was back when it first got VR support. I have no idea if they ever improved on the feature.

It was as horrific as it sounds when you can't see shit ahead of you and one of these faggots spawn 10 ft ahead of you...in VR
>>718388957 (OP)

>>718497231
I agree with this post. I ignored all the enemies and base building and equipment and exploration and vehicles and depth mechanics by stocking my inventory full of basic air tanks and bladderfish (FREE OXYGEN) and swimming down straight to the end game using an internet guide to follow in a boring safe path around all monsters and without scanning a single thing. I beat the game in one sitting and uninstalled. It's 6/10 at best. It's a real shame you can just ignore everything so easily. I don't respect games that let me do that.

>>718389173
I'd feel like shit

I hate survival games but I want to try this out, is the free mode worth playing?

>>718464387
maybe, but the multiplayer direction spells doom for the game. clearly all their resources will go in that direction, meaning the game will not be scary at all. we saw human ruins in the trailer which means again the devs have no idea what made their first game so good . ISOLATION, niggers.

I wish this game had a mech suit that is one step down from the Prawn Suit but is available much earlier, between Seaglide and Seamoth. Just a skeleton exo-suit with a big drill arm so you can mine earlier the large mineral chunks. You see those big juicy things everywhere once you start exploring but you're always hit by the message "you don't have the equipment to mine this resource" and by the time you DO have that equipment, it's way too late, and slow, and clumsy. I like the idea of going comfy mining underwater but they implemented the feature so unfortunately out of balance that it's essentially always better to go zoom-zooming on seaglide and grab what you need. Why not just drill earlier with exo-suit big drill for underwater factorio experience.

>>718499804
really. a giant pink dolphin is scary. that shit is goofy son

>>718511894
Yeah after I beat the game the 'normal' way I watched a speedrun and was mindblown there's nothing preventing you from swimming directly to the endgame area and activating the macguffin. Literally zero pacing / gating.

Any good mods for this game?

>>718513468
It's cool if you go in blind and play it like a roguelite. If you don't there's no real challenge.

>>718513468
If you don't want the full survival experience you can play "freedom mode" which has no food and water restriction. It's an intermediary step between normal mode and full sandbox mode with infinite everything. It removes a lot of the stress of the early game, since it's one of those games where your character burns through calories and water like they're always running a marathon. However by the mid game you typically don't have to worry about food and water anymore so "freedom mode" will only alleviate some of the "survival stress". You'll still have to deal with oxygen-related stress and the big monsters.

I've never tried sandbox mode (true immortality + infinite everything) but a quick look at the wiki says that you can progress through the story as normal, despite a misleading in-game description saying otherwise. I would recommend progressing through the story on normal mode but it's interesting that you can play sandbox and still get the story.

>>718516706
Right? Even before looking at video I actually did the challenge of carrying extra air tanks + filling inventory with bladder fish and swimming straight to the final area with early game equipment. It's really adrenaline-pumping when you reach the point that you don't have enough oxygen to go back up and you just have to keep going deeper and deeper to reach that one thing at the bottom before your timer runs out.

Uninstalled the game when I found the woke audio logs. Shame, was really enjoying it.

>>718513468
Don't bother with survival mode, eating and drinking is trivial tedium from the very start.

>>718520061
I find there is value in the experience of catching your first peeper or bladderfish or preparing cured rations for the first explorations

>>718520740
I disagree, you're never really far enough from your pod to not be able to go back and cook something to eat and by the time you venture deep enough to make that concern you already have limitless food so the only thing you need to do is press tab and click on an icon every 20 minutes.

>>718520061
You might as well just enable god mode so you don't have to breathe either, moron. The entire point is to give you stuff to do because later on you have to make a whole base in the Lost River area to sustain food and water. Otherwise you'll be going up back and forth 3000 meters.

>>718521052
Name calling? And you need one pot and one seed to establish a limitless quantity of food. It's hardly a complex prerequisite to building a base in the lost river.

>>718521424
It's not complex, but it'll take hours of time lunging materials back and forth to make a new base. It's the single part of the game that becomes a grind because even the story requires you to go get a bunch of materials to make important technology.

>>718521624
So the food part is a miniscule portion of that work?

>>718388957 (OP)
What the fuck were they thinking with 2?

>>718520989
You only have truly limitless food once you've got the cyclops
the stage between the seamoth and the cyclops will require food for longer journeys even if you immediately rush islands for vegetables
I always have some when I go to the shroom caves two hours in to stock up on enough magnetite until late game

>>718521772
Co-op is kino.

>>718406501
>>718406829
No I meant "gating" as in game design gate.
Areas you can't access before you've reach another and obtained an object, or a vehicle, or the mean to reach deeper.
The game was meant to have several gates, like crystal key for energy shield, but they fucked up and eventually simplified it so it wouldn't feel like a chore.

>>718395445
garg is overrated. best leviathan is sea emperor.

>>718518279
>like they're always running a marathon
think for a second next time

>>718521772
breh

>>718522040
That's subjective because I just built the cyclops after having a seamoth and not having a prawn and I may have crafted some water with a single bleach before I went to, the ship, for example. But stocking up on food for a journey is not something I had to do.

>>718415397
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth..." - Isaiah 40:22

Ok, which one of you fags drew that shit?

>>718446635
i'm so mad they're making the gargantuan leviathan actively hostile towards people. something that big wouldn't fucking care.

>>718522056
retarded zoomer, go back to playing fortnite

>>718522389
I wish we could blame it on the swimming but your guy consistently starve to death in 50 minutes (or dehydrates in 30 minutes) regardless of their physical activity. They'll eat 24 full meals a day even comfy in their cyclop.

>>718455682
if it helps any, a lot of the people who changed up below zero have been fired (and are suing the publishers who fired them, and are using Reddit quotes as evidence of the publisher's wrongdoing (i mention that part just because its really funny to me)), and the people left are looking more towards subnautica 1 for inspiration and are aware of below zero's reputation.

>>718519010
Yeah one way trips and serious cave diving should've been more a part of the core game.

>>718388957 (OP)
It does and that's why it isn't scary. Subnautica is too cartoony and everything looks goofy.

>>718523657
Clearly Sparrow.

>>718491551
skyscrapers aren't as big and mountains just... don't do anything for me.

>>718492486
...i have no idea what that is even supposed to be. definitely doesn't trigger a pit in the stomach.

>>718389173
>false flag

>>718492830
>whatever happened there

>>718521772
:)

Subnautica stresses me out more than any actual horror game ever has. Especially the pop-in.

>>718492830
>game is called subnautica
>many above ground segments
I don't get it, they should have just made it an unrelate- Oh that's why, they just wanted the brand power of 'Subnautica'

>beat Subnautica
>want more Subnautica
>boot up Below Zero
>exposed to the plot and characters
>uninstall Below Zero

>>718533224
>beat subnautica
>see sub zero in early access
>purchase sight unseen
>instant_regret.jpg

>>718388957 (OP)
>what if da monsta was frickin basedpogging

>>718492830
Subnautica was good 80% on accident, and 20% because of the sound and visual guys, who they fucking fired over orange man.
This game is such a tragedy, it's the only survival crafting game I ever liked. I love the ocean. I loved the alien planet. I loved cruising around in the cyclops. I loved the whole feel of the game.
I have absolutely 0 hope for the sequel. I'd rather it just become vaporware and fade into obscurity.

>>718511894
>used an internet guide to go through a boring safe path to the ending
>meh 6/10

The worst part is, I can't even tell if this is newfags or if /v/ is plain retarded now

>>718534663
>who they fucking fired over orange man
They fired the sound guy over the attack helicopter joke, not trump

>>718492467
That's fucking it. I've only seen it for 5 seconds so far.

Not sure if I'll be able to go into the big depths in this game, can't take it.

>>718511894
>the game is slightly above average because I played it in the most boring way possible thanks to a wiki guide
And I bet you think you're intelligent for doing it

>>718533375
>Wow, I really shouldn't stick my penis in that
>However,

>>718409694
Someones never heard the wwter ape hypothesis...or took swimming lessons...or youre black? Why cant blacks tread water?

>>718389173
>brekkie
ELLO GUV

BOBS ME UNCLE

>>718486168
Submechanophobia

>>718535685
>A camera drone. I'LL STEAL IT! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!

>>718534663
>I loved the alien planet. I loved cruising around in the cyclops. I loved the whole feel of the game.
Them ditching the Cyclops in the second game was nearly the sole reason I havent tried it
It was so fun cruising around in that sub, navigating the seafloor, and even the parts where you're attacked and it starts breaking it apart, gave it that awesome "Das Boot" feel rather than just feeling horrifying
Made me wish for another atmospheric sub game, but they don't really exist

>>718404646
They either get a lethal dose or they just get cancer if their lifespan even goes long enough for it. Animals dont have any way to detect it beyond what humans can do unless you count scorpions getting extra glowy

>>718416563
Understanding object scales accurately is a mind's eye visualisation technique. Most people don't have the mental architecture to do it.

>>718535637
>Why cant blacks tread water?
Bone density, unironically. People dream up all these bullshit reasons about socioeconomic factors, but if you ask the US Navy they'll just tell you black people are too dense to float, and the more ripped they get the worse it is. That's why there are almost no black Seals and black rescue divers are basically unheard of.

>>718537019
They also have trouble timing their breathing to maintain buoyancy. Your lung capacity plays a huge part in how is or hard it is to tread water.

>>718537019
I actually looked up the bone densities a while ago and its only a difference of 0.01 or 0.02 or there about ie basically nothing.

So they must lack doggy paddle instincts or something

>>718537292
That anon is wrong as fuck, it's muscle density and fat ratio
There's a reason why white women are actually some of the best distance swimmers