Thread 718404001

>Went from one of the board's most beloved developers to be as hated as Ubisoft or Electronic Arts
What happened? And it's not just hatred towards their recent input; the original Demon's Souls and Dark Souls have also been revalued as bad games that inflict untold damage to the entire industry.

that's wrong
though nightreign is a cheap cash-in which dilutes elden ring a little bit.

>>718404001 (OP)
Blind contrarianism and shazam losing.

>>718404001 (OP)
handful of autits whining on /v/
world at large loves the games

>>718404073
Yea, Im starting to get concerned but Im not concerned yet. I just want to know why they were the only Studio who could keep up a 90s production schedule. Fuck these 7 year development cycles, especially for bad games.

they started making boring opeworld shit

>>718407137
>heavily curated and tightly designed
>all those dogshit levels
kek, at least use like bloodborne or sekiro

>>718404001 (OP)
Popular things bad!

>>718404001 (OP)
People are overcompensating from being tired of hearing about soulslikes.

They went mainstream with Elden Ring and /v/ hates anything mainstream

>>718404001 (OP)
>What happened?
They turned into an equivalent of Ubisoft or Electronic arts.

>>718407023
The games are largely snowballs of reused ideas and concepts from the previous and each is made on basically the same engine (DS2 was kinda made on a different engine for some portion of the development) so expanding on the previous game is pretty easy. Souls games are known for being pretty easily modable.

>>718404001 (OP)
they have made the same game for 15 years and haven't fixed any of its blatant issues that could be excused in early 2010s but now feel like a pisstake

also their fans are scarcely human and make discussing their games impossible

>>718408314
>Play DMCV
>still shitty levels and enemy sandbags.
>nobody complains 24yr later
>play FPS
>melee attacks are still garbage and feel floaty
>nobody complains in 32 years
>play GTA
>gun handling, driving, and melee are still shit
>nobody complains 21 years later

>>718404001 (OP)
That's wrong. When Ubisoft or EA releases something big almost every anon wishes it'll flop. When Fromsoft releases something you have a fair amount looking forward to it. There's anons who don't like it but there's more than a few who'll dislike it just because they're popular. That's not to say they're without flaws, they need to break their formula, but people just get annoyed when things they aren't interested in take over the airspace.

>>718408124
I just don't get why other studios don't copy as I think that system works wonderfully.
I and the shareholders would rather be playing Skyrim 7 and Witcher 5 than Starfeild and Cyberpunk.

>>718409097
A lot of studios actually do try to do this. Fromsoft is able to pull it off because they actually have comparatively competent staff.

>>718408510
>their fans are scarcely human and make discussing their games impossible
see? instant braindead wattaboutism

Their only good games were Metal Wolf Chaos, Demon's Souls and DS1. Everything else can fuck off

>>718404001 (OP)
>What happened?
Flanderized their own combat. Bosses became a shitty joke compared to bosses from demons, dark 1 and bloodborne.

Their art style, atmosphere and realizing concepts remains impeccable but how the player interacts with the GAME continues to get worse. Elden ring was basically just the boss designers vigorously masturbating in your face. Either you fuck with the boss AI targetting with summons or you'll spend most of the battle on the defensive since there are very few openings that will go unpunished.

The biggest issue is windups and actual attack animations. In older games the swing itself is reactable. You can see the weapon coming down and have time to get out of the way. You can't do that anymore. You need to memorize when the windup is about to end and which evasion tactics actually work. For instance most bosses will punish you for jumping sweeps. But if you just iframe roll through the sweeps you're safe.

>>718404001 (OP)
Pick your posion:
>Oversaturation of the franchise without any innovation
>Speeding up development at the cost of quality
>Having no clue non what made the first games good
>Implementing popular concepts like open-world, that don't fit with the original premise.

I dont hate from software i love their games, elden ring was too hard for me but i still like to come back to ds1 or bloodborne, maybe i will make ds 3 run i did not played that game like 3 years

>>718404001 (OP)
>What happened?
They became too big. Happens to all of these companies once they get too big.

>>718409341
Why do you expect FromSoft to be an exception to every rule?
No one expects for the next Ace Combat game to involve tanks or melee combat.

>>718404001 (OP)
>What happened?
They made a game for nintendo

>>718404001 (OP)
It got popular so the /v/irgin contrarian programming kicked in. That's it.

>>718407137
>"YOU MUST GO THIS WAY BECAUSE UH... BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY?!?!"
0% engagement, boring, game dropped after first finish, if even finished at all
vs
>"You see that mountain in the distance? You can go there."
100% engagement, hooked, will sink countless hours into the game exploring and replaying

>>718411451
Imagine how cool that be though.

>>718408510
all of those get shat on here

>>718404001 (OP)
Lets see

1.DemonSouls
2.Dark Souls
3.Dark Souls
4.Dark Souls
5.Bloodborne
6.Sekiro
7.Elden Ring
8.EldenRing NightReign
9.Duskbloods

9 whole games. This shit has more entries than Far Cry or Assassins Creed.
Lets not talk about the souls like plague that it started.

>>718404001 (OP)
>as hated as Ubisoft or Electronic Arts
definitely not. ive been there since DeS and would definitely say theyve lost their spark but to claim that they are as bad as them is ludicrous

>>718404001 (OP)
>as hated as Ubisoft or Electronic Arts
What kind of dimension is this nigger living in?

sneede

>>718413515
The one his discord mods told him is the definitely real and universally agreed upon public concensus

>>718404001 (OP)
>Ubisoft :I
>Ubisoft, Japan :O

>>718404001 (OP)
they kept making the same game over and over again

>>718413819
yeah but they do it well unlike other studios

>>718407023
All of their games are low quality asset flips and it's well known that they pay their employees low wages to work in harsh conditions.

>>718413965
I disagree. They almost never change the settings or overall premise. Even Ubishit and Actijew have the decency to do that much.

>>718414168
>Even Ubishit and Actijew have the decency to do that much.
yeah but those games are shit so it doesn't matter

>>718414123
Are the asset flips in the room right now?

>>718414275
Debatable.

>>718404001 (OP)
I've always hated them.
They mostly produced bottom of the barrel licensed games and mediocre RPGs until they started milking the "souls" formula. Kuon and the games published by Agetec and their only good games.

>>718404001 (OP)
only PCTroons hate From

People seriously replying to this thread tells you everything you need about nu-4chan

>>718414403
nah

fabricated "concern" from people that barely avoided killing themselves after nightrein and are actually hyperseething. From was supposed to pipe bomb the seamless co-op dev's home in 2 more weeks (trust), not go and make a co-op game themselves! this made them too angry for their state of mind to be accurately described with spoken or written language.

>>718414463
Yes, because they won't release Bloodborne on PC

>>718414581
Yah.

>>718404001 (OP)
Nothing happened brown shitposters got BTFO by ER and will let it live rent free in their heads for the rest of their lives

>>718404001 (OP)
money ruins everything, next
>zoomies don't remember when EA was one of the best gaming companies

>>718414847
Browns helped make the game, so your cope is nonsensical.

>>718414809
nah

>>718414376
are you serious, fromdrone?

>>718415072
Are you in harsh conditions right now? How does that make you feel?

>>718414990
See
>>718414847

>>718415135
Yeah, I saw that cope. Why would jeets shit on something they helped make?

>>718414990
So you believe having this image saved to your pc and/or mobile device doesn’t prove the point that it’s living rent free in your head, and will continue to do so for the rest of your life, brown shitposter

>>718404001 (OP)
We need a Final Solution to the discord tendie question.

>>718414990
announcing the obvious fact that all modern games having cheap low skill outsourced labour to india is like saying the sky is blue

>>718415267
>benchod I see post sar
See
>>718414847
Actually read the post

>>718415313
i think a 5 second google image search doesnt prove anything, actually

>>718408314
>haven't fixed any of its blatant issues
Such as?

>>718415414
>i
LMAO brownoid cuck

>>718415391
I don't Hindi, sorry.

>>718414847
This, it’s why the ads like these come across as giga cope. Y’all put all your eggs into the shazam basket which flopped horrendously, you can never put the toothpaste back into the tube so to speak. Y’all lost forever

>>718404001 (OP)
>one of the board's most beloved developers
Retard

>>718415534
what? off your meds, anon?

>>718414661
FromSoft has been making multiplayer games since the PSX era.

>>718404001 (OP)
coincidentally call of duty went from one of the boards most hated games to the most loved

>>718404001 (OP)
I like them. FromSoftware is my favorite software.