Thread 718448964

Here's a factual take: Halo fucking sucks. All of them. They all fucking suck.
You cannot possibly argue that Halo is good. Microsoft is forced to keep making Halo games because there's a huge audience of gen Xers/early millennial casuals who played toddlers first FPS on their xbox and nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

Can you imagine anything sadder than being a developer forced to work on a fucking Halo game? Even CoD developers have more freedom to try things out.

Oh, and Destiny fucking sucks too. FPS games for braindead retards.

>>718448964 (OP)
>Even CoD developers have more freedom to try things out.
I find that a little hard to believe

>>718448964 (OP)
>Here's a factual take
>Gives opinion
Kys nigga

>>718449137
:(

You weren't saying that 20 years ago, what happened?

>>718449026
It's true. Zombies. Constant changes to warzone. Constant changes to MP. Wacko campaigns set in different periods and wars, both real and fictional.
>>718449137
It sucks compared to any other popular FPS. You name it. If out of all shooters out there you pick Halo as your favorite then you're a scrub. That simple.

>>718449316
>If you don't like the thing I like then you bad
Kys nigga

>>718448964 (OP)
I completely agree with you, OP. Hope the CE remake, and Halo 7 finally give the singleplayer of this series a good shake-up.

>>718449984
>Hope the CE remake
Because it's a remake they have to keep the boring gameplay of the original mostly intact.
>and Halo 7 finally give the singleplayer of this series a good shake-up
Making Halo Infinite a bit less boring and more engaging already triggered the outrage of the scrub fanbase. They want the good old braindead gameplay, but more than that, they want to return to their mothers wombs.

>>718448964 (OP)
Is there just this one dude on /v/ now who constantly makes this same thread over and over?

There is this group of nerd retards who grew up with a specific "lineage" of games that Halo wasn't a part of. When Halo became popular it encroached on their world and they resent it.

Halo has such a drastically different design philosophy because the developers weren't coming in with any preconceived notions about how a shooter should be made. Or at least according to the notions of other shooters at the time. Halo's main gameplay designer, Jaime Griesemer, was a philosophy major.
The team set out to make a shooter which cut the ridiculous fat that shooter games still clung onto from the days of doom. Carrying a billion weapons, carrying a separate melee and grenade weapon, key card shit, odd puzzles that halt gameplay for 20 seconds etc.

It was and still is a concise, efficient game which pushes the bare minimum of what its design philosophy is capable of to the absolute limit. Which unfortunately can get repetitive in the last few levels for many of us.

Sooo joining the army bad: gen alpha?

>>718450174
>Because it's a remake they have to keep the boring gameplay of the original mostly intact.
It's a remake, like Metroid Zero Mission remake, it's gonna have modern gameplay as leaked. They will take from other singleplayer shooters along with experimenting with massive open world-like levels for Halo 7 to not repeat the mistakes from Infinite. The old health system will also return, I wonder will they keep that going forward but without the fall damage?

>>718450248
>philosophy major
>The team set out to make a shooter which cut the ridiculous fat that shooter games still clung onto from the days of doom. Carrying a billion weapons, carrying a separate melee and grenade weapon, key card shit, odd puzzles that halt gameplay for 20 seconds etc.
So, they intentionally ruined a great genre to dumb it down for retards. Makes a whole lot of sense when you think about it.

>>718448964 (OP)
Halo walked so COD could run.
Halo single-handedly paved the way for all other console FPS for every other franchise/series. Their dual stick control scheme was duplicated and copied by every other FPS game after.

>>718448964 (OP)
Here's a factual take: deez nuts belong on ya chin

>>718450248
I'm 32, grew up in the 2000's and I'm the OP, so no I'm not your strawman.

>>718450683
>32 and make daily Halo seethe threads

Oof. Least pathetic Halo hater.

>>718450607
Not OP, you say this like it was a good thing.

>>718450756
Why do you think I make daily Halo threads? You know this board bas thousands of posters right?

>>718448964 (OP)
>Here's a factual take: i m a
> f a g g o t

Don't worry guys I translated this one for you

>>718450607
Ok, but again, cod at least tries new things. You can argue cod has more freedom as an IP because it's about war generically. So that can be the vietnam war or robot wars in 2100.
Halo is stuck as space marine guy against aliens and they can't or don't want to try anything else, both story and gameplay wise.

>halo thread
Nice, I just played through all the Halo games though not the ones by 343. Really good time. My only real complaints were the stupid friendly AIs, especially when involved with vehicles. This shit probably needed to be played co-op instead of single player but oh well. Otherwise the experience was great.
Also fuck the canon, Noble Six survived. If he could somehow live through reentry and all the other bullshit, he can survive a couple of elites.

>>718449316
>Constant changes to warzone
So your pitch is that you think Halo is bad then you immediately take your pants off and jerk off to Call of Duty, modern call of duty which is the shittiest franchise ever and an IP that is more disgraced than Halo.

Ok Retard.

>>718450248
Look ragebait is the only way to get a discussion going around these parts and it works for Doom Eternal, it starts as bait and becomes a good talk on FPS overall.

That said as it seems we share one neuron, I was thinking about Halo today and what MS could do to unfuck the franchise and the story and there is room to to that and give the series a send off while not closing the door on the IP for further milking but MS is terrible managing IPs.
Given that Doom Slayer for some reason seems to appear on Halo fan content, either that or Helldivers, what if MS gave the IP to Id Software? Dark Ages almost plays like Halo if you squint.

>>718448964 (OP)
>seething about a dead ip that hasn't been relevant since 2007
Did halo piss in your cereal or something?

>>718450837
It was.
>>718451058
Gameplay wise COD hasn't changed since the introduction of Zombies. Zombies is the only real additional game mode that COD has had since the start. Warzone isn't even a BR it's just COD gameplay on a big map because you can just call in an airdrop with your custom loadout which ruins the entire point of having to scavenge and make do with what you find in the BR genre. And Halo has had a Zombie mode too since Halo 3. It's just PVP instead of PVE.

Snoyggers and steamies are the saddest people on this board.

>>718450442
>they intentionally ruined a great genre to dumb it down for retards
They made a trilogy of games.
They did not ruin your genre.
No other game plays like halo, not in the slightest. There were zero halo copycats which made it big.

Stop confusing halo with other industry trends. It was never a part of them.

>>718448964 (OP)
TRVTH NVKE

Also I was pleasantly surprised by ODST and Reach. Honestly I thought I'd enjoy them less given how they were created after Bungie's last "finish the fight" effort with Halo 3, and how they didn't feature Chief. But they were still pretty great and the characters grew on me. After marathoning the entire original series, I could still actually play more. A shame Bungie died with Halo.

>>718451361
>It was.
It wasn't, it brought low-common denominators into the game industry. If you can't play a video game, if you develop games for retards who refuse to learn how to use their brains then you shouldn't be playing games, nor should you be making games. Glad you posted that because now I lost respect for old Bungie. Now I see why indies and AAs don't want to copy Halo and I'm not seeing why Halo Studios is now starting to copy FPS games like Doom and Half-Life over full classic Halo or even COD now. Xbox really was a shit console, it ruined Bungie.

>>718451553
If they were making this shit a Halo exclusive then there would be no reason to make claims that they ruined the genre but they admitted on several occasions to ruining the genre so (You) and them can go fuck themselves. Glad Sony is eating them alive. Karma's a bitch

>>718452348
Name a single thing halo did to "ruin the genre" and I can assure you it already existed and was starting to become prevalent elsewhere in the industry.

what is the appeal of this franchise, retard level puzzles, backtracking, inventory management, low skill ceiling and clunky gameplay

please enlighten me, is it just for retards that play video games for the story

>>718452483
regenerative health

>>718452485
>revealing that he's too retarded to play actual video games
>REmake 4
Kill yourself

>>718448964 (OP)
>8 year old me
>like Halo because you get to shoot aliens

>32 year old me
>like Halo because the aliens you shoot are an allegory for the Bible/why culturally stagnant authoritarian societies are doomed to fail

>>718448964 (OP)
>8 year old me
>like Halo because you get to shoot aliens

>32 year old me
>like Halo because the aliens you shoot are a biblical/historical allegory of why culturally stagnant authoritarian societies are doomed to fail

>>718448964 (OP)
Best way to play it on PC these days? Should I look up an old release and use fan patches? I just wanna replay the first one.

>>718454052
None, I'll at least give Infinite's campaign credit for being the first Halo game made for PC. This gives faith in the CE remake and Halo 7 in UE5. The rest is gimped as console trash. I wish Nintendo became the console FPS king, no Microsoft. They fucked console FPS for many years, those stagnating mother fuckers.

>>718454809
*ass

>>718448964 (OP)
I played a shitload of Halo split screen with my niggas but it's mid. 007/Perfect Dark/Time Splitters were better.

>>718449137
Here is my opinion
But in fact it is really fact
Halo is a great series

>>718454809
Really? That's unfortunate. Figured that old PC port would've had a few fan patches that make it app nice and pretty at this point.

>>718455159
G R E A S E

I still have my combat evolved cd for pc. Wonder if the servers are still supported.

>>718448964 (OP)
why does CE it suck, anon. you're not allowed to compare it to games that came out 5 years later btw

>>718455275
nah you need the 1.0.10 patch

It was genuine kino to read the OG trilogy of Halo books while the games were being made.
The Flood was the weakest, but still had interesting sections.
HE > First Strike > 2 was great

>>718455567
CE, not HE

>>718452483
Regenerating health wasn't unique to Halo and didn't even become the norm until well after its release. The original CE had a health bar with shield regen, a compromise between arcade-style health pickups and full regen. COD4 a few years later is what normalized full regen and linear levels. Blaming Halo is just revisionist history. If anything, Halo streamlined FPS design for console play in a way that respected skill-based encounters-big sandbox fights, enemy AI that did more than peek out of cover, and actual map verticality. Hell, the two-gun limit didn't ruin anything; it forced players to think about loadouts instead of hoarding.

Here is an actual TRVTH NVKE:

You are an absolute faggot and halo is pure kino in a video game format

>>718456568
COD 2 and Gears of War also had regen health started in Halo 2, so no, Halo did cause it, gonna keep ignoring this statement here?
>The team set out to make a shooter which cut the ridiculous fat that shooter games still clung onto from the days of doom. Carrying a billion weapons, carrying a separate melee and grenade weapon, key card shit, odd puzzles that halt gameplay for 20 seconds etc.
They could have just made a console shooter with the aspects that made shooters good, but they didn't do that.

>>718457194
>halo is pure kino
Not OP, if you're not watching a game instead of playing it, then maybe you should just go watch a movie. A game is meant to be fun and playable, not cinematic.

>>718454052
Master chief collection on steam, you can buy Halo CE separately for like 10 bucks so no need to buy all the other games. It Comes with Halo Reach by default though.

>>718448964 (OP)
it's been 24 years, anon. get over it already

>>718448964 (OP)
Nah, Halo 1 and 2 were really good games.

I'm about to start playing Halo 4, against my better judgement.