Thread 718516347

>But, speaking to the gaming news site Aftermath, Itch founder Corcoran said Visa had issued a "policy notice" against the marketplace — which focuses on indie and arthouse games — that made middlemen such as PayPal and Stripe question doing business with it.
>Paypal and Stripe wouldn’t comment on individual companies, but Stripe noted that it does not support adult content. Visa did not respond to a request for comment.
>Meanwhile, Steam's parent company, Valve, alleged that Mastercard had leaned on its (unnamed) payment middlemen to demand that Steam change its existing rules — although Mastercard gave a different account.
>And as a result, many video game users and creators saw the campaign as unfairly targeting anything that is beyond the mainstream, with gaming often a creative outlet for people to explore complicated topics.
>But the great adult videogame purge of 2025 shows reputational damage goes both ways. Payment companies have been swamped by calls from angry gamers, reportedly leading to desperate tactics such as hanging up on callers immediately or putting them on hold for 17 hours.
>"Financial companies shouldn't be in the position of reviewing and censoring online speech,” Reitman says. “They don't have the expertise to do it, there is no transparency or accountability around their decisions, and nobody elected them to be the arbiters of morality online."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/video-game-censorship-visa-mastercard-b2809867.html

why do you people keep spamming this shit here

someone put up a site following the anti-censorship campaign which have all the information up do date including petitions and contacts is a good idea to bookmark it before it gets taken down:
https://stop-paypros.neocities.org/

is confirmed MasterCard and VISA are paying people to police chats and negative comments against them online

mouthwashing was censored by itch for other reasons though

>>718516456
>why are you posting games
>in the videogame board

>>718516347 (OP)
>co.uk
they have no fucking room to talk censorship

jews
>own the porn
>own the payment processors
>own the mainstream news media
And yet are
>using their payment processors to ban the porn they own
>using their mainstream news media outlets to smear their payment processors
I can't keep up with the 8d chess moves of the jew world controlling elite man, i just can't, they operate too many steps ahead

>>718519459
Visual novels aren't games

>>718516347 (OP)
>arthouse games
PFFFTTT GAMERS ARE PATHETIC LMAOOO

>>718521374
>using their payment processors to ban the porn they don't own
ftfy
their porn is somehow unaffected

>>718521374
Hentai wasn't invented by Jews.
And I have no reason to believe that the porn games that were banned were all made by Jews.

>>718521936
>>718522110
First, uh, literal week on the internet? Pornhub and related sites was first on the chopping block and the hardest hit out of everything really.
Well, tumblr came even before that, but baby steps with the newfags, I don't want to overload you with too much history. It might already be too much of a shock to learn that the internet existed before a couple months ago.

>>718519459
Beating a dead horse is technically a game but there's no win condition.

>>718522786
>Pornhub and related sites was first on the chopping block and the hardest hit out of everything really.
Amateur porn, posted by non-verified users. Established porn production companies were unaffacted.

>>718521374
They don't own "these" porn

>>718516347 (OP)
Well, good. It's nice to see a UK based gossip rag have the correct opinion on things.

>>718521509
This doesn't just affect visual novels you absolutely retard.

>>718523317
What happened to Amateur porn?

>>718516347 (OP)
Mouthwash wasnt banned for payment regualtors but for having links to steam

>>718521374
You get told every single time and yet it doesn't get through.
They own 3dpd porn sites and want people to watch it exclusively.
They do not own porn games or the animation market, and thus they are trying to shut that down.

It's simple.

Let me know when real games are being targeted.

>>718523317
>>718523458
Do you think they didn't profit off amateur stuff uploaded to their sites? no jew would be happy with the amount of revenue lost because of being forced to purge all their shit and losing traffic.

>>718523136
apparently not so dead because now normie newspapers have gotten wind of the censorship

>>718516347 (OP)

REMINDER.
We now know who the true mastermind is now for the payment processor pressure campaign against anime, violent games and porn. The conservative christian run group Collective Shout is just a cover for Russ Vought, a co-writer for Project 2025, Director of the United States Office of Management and Budget, AND Acting Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

This man has already publicly stated his desire to have pornographic content, violent video games, and other types of content "harmful to children", banned from the internet.

In a two minute clip posted on YouTube by The Intercept the following transcript, highlighted in yellow, shows his intended starting point (start with children), and then he cuts himself off from explaining the next part of the plan, of violent video games, etc, as that route had failed twice already in the past few decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0noIS9lmR0Y

Now, in his position in the CFPB, Russ Vought has ultimate authority over payment providers and banks, and he has likely been abusing this power to strong-arm changes in these privately owned businesses regarding content he specifically had shown his distaste and hatred towards previously. All clearly telegraphed before hand, many years ago.

The executive order is only meant to make people think they won, there is no way to enforce it so the only option is keep the pressure on payment processors and keep exposing russ vought while ignore all attempts to derail it. Also Project 2025 will claim payment processors were doing this before Russ Vought, but they only started targeting American companies after he took over.

>>718516456
20 thousand fucking games got jannied by the banks, without the most basic transparency and you think it's not fucking relevant? Even a dumb reputation manager intern for the banks would know better than that.

>>718519973
No, you TAS speedrunner testicle breath. It means there's MORE targets to fight.

>>718525061
>The group of perpetually-offended holes from the nanny state is actually a cover for an American who supported Trump and is therefore a le HECKIN NAZI FASCIST

>>718521374
Jew vs jew anon.

>>718524849
And DIFFERENT fucks who have been approved by payment sites are given license to operate.

LIVE ACTION porn that would have been IMPOSSIBLE to make legally is getting a pass on OF, while fucking drawings are getting hammered..

>>718524849
You do realize that the users who watched amateur porn simply moved on to different videos on the same site, right? It's not like those people just abandoned porn overnight.
The revenue stream simply became more centralized. Everyone just watches big production shit because there are no alternatives, except onlyfans, and that's semitic as fuck too. In fact this move would actually mean squeezing extra money out of the population. So why wouldn't they shut down amateur?

You guys were so much more proactive when it was about kicking women out of vidya lol did the money dry up ?

>>718525061
Definitely a man who wants to fuck up everything down to the internet level, but absolutely not the only player here. Don't over or under recognize him.

Literally all they have to do is pass the money from Business to Customer
>UHM ACKSHULLY I DISAPPROVE OF THIS TRANSACTION SO I WON'T DO IT
okay then the government needs to break your monopoly up, you authoritarian piece of shit. it's MY MONEY and I USE IT how & where I WANT TO.

visa and paypal are not obliged to let you download your loli CP rape game from their payment servers

>>718525819
The most bizarre part about this is the amount of time and effort that they're spending to BYPASS the existing rating systems that we have, that a large chunk of money goes into. Why the hell would they want to get involved at at spending the money or taking the heat for content rating decisions, and making the ESRB, CERO and PEGI systems practically pointless.

>>718526097
Correct enough, dumb frogposter. It still is in their best interest to be completely up front on how their transaction rules work. If this is the case, a bypass system to get money from banks to steam is what's called for. Quite a few countries have this.

>>718521374
Azkhenazi aren't jews, they are servants of baal and moloch and part of the tribe of esau

>>718522110
This is true, that's why they tried to corral with publishers and failed. When they failed they went full lawfare mode and still failed. They need that dosh to re-circulate in the kukcages they call corporations. If it flows somewhere else because their pdf cousin in gov says they need to propaganda/ads then they risk losing on musical chairs. The payprocfgs is the latest incarnations of this bullshattery

Am I the only one noticing how so much of this censorship stuff is happening all at once?
Is it some kind of coordinated effort?

Just one month has done more damage than what would happen in a decade previously.

>>718523920
Just ignore the nay-sayers, they got around 3-4 paid shills on their side spamming dis-information and mal-information that negatively is trying to target their opposition (they talk pro-left and anti-right and never take accountability for what's really going on, feminism being left wing socialist group think political statement usually, not right wing, they will never call out the legislators, they will never mention how collective shout members are in australian political positions and how they are totalitarian leftists basically), you can just watch and see how they respond to things being said here and yes, it relates to more than just visual novel games being sold, horror games are affected, GTA was taken off Australian stores by them, Ready Or Not was heavily edited because of them, a female was called a male and denied their existence as a woman because it went against their collectivist viewpoint on what's a woman. Heh, it is video games related. If they could start an abolition for porn, gaming, alcohol and drugs they would go through with it but you know how that never works.

>>718527584
I'm betting semi coordinated effort. We knew fuckers were going to go after the internet at some point.

>>718527584
Its coordinated, alot of colluding corps. It was planned 3 years ago by banks in the World Econo mic For um. They are going full regard tho and steam was a bad first choice. It has alerted too many in the states.UK is currently going through protests and revolts tho. They had several petitions ignored and now are coming into terms that political solutions may not be available.

>>718525310
So? what are you going to do about it little bitch?

America makes money trough israel and warmongering other countries. You can't do shit against your overlords. Seethe.

>>718521374
Every industry has Jewish people because it is literally their religion to go where the money is at. Like Christians though after so many generations turns out they infight and split off, a lot of Jewish people now dislike Israel

>>718528053
America makes 0 returns from Israel thoughbeit, taxes get sent there and nothing comes out of there in return other than dead bodies and debt.

>>718528432
>America makes 0 returns from aiding the holy land of the bankers

Are you actually fucking retarded dude? Brain rot status? You think people do ethical cleansing without a good reason? actually don't answer the last one

>>718516456
fuck off nigger

>>718528659
Good reason? Do you count vengeance, envy and generational hostilities as a good reason? Only time I could see it being a good reason is if its in the case of Goblins in Goblin Slayer, that's valid.

>>718525819
I mean trying to use this process to bypass the second amendment got legal attention already. And it's absolutely in America's best interest to have a predictable international banking system, for buying your games.

>>718528053
Most obviously, not take blatant bait by people who want to redirect this into /pol/ shitposting.

I mean, things are still on the clean right now. Recruiting people to start disabling every single visa and MC POS device would be overkill, for now at least.

>>718528659
LOL. Take it to pol, spam boy.

>>718521374
they're not banning their porn, or their games, they're banning the competition. when child predators were on twitter, and onlyfans had literal child porn, they didn't do anything at all.

>>718528432
Don't forget its actively detrimental, like the USS Liberty incident where they attempted to frame another nation for the attack. They probably have gotten away with shit since then since they didn't even get a slap on the wrist for that.

>>718516456
Its video games kike. Stop blocking my games and I'll stop wanting you removed from palestine

>>718529239
Glowie malding.

>>718529264
And Roblox wasn't targeted until a lawsuit was brought in an the issue was hugely covered up. Its all about making money, control the economy while taking away your right to speak freely.

>>718525753
There's a lot of players involved, but he is currently the top one when it comes to the censorship campaign in America.
Also the fact he's spending 5 million of American taxpayer money to protect himself confirms he knows his censorship campaign is very unpopular with everyone but his group.

>>718523136
why are (you) are mad that other people are fighting for (you)r rights

50 posts in a no mention of the files, impressive.

>>718516456
ViDeO gAmES fuckface

>>718529581
Nobody cares dude. Most of the big names were probably after 16-18 year old chicks. Thats not weird in most of the world

I hope steam adopts crypto payment and crypto out jews the jews.

>>718516456
gee idk mate
oi botey hell mate

>>718516347 (OP)
what a fucking retarded, insidious take. no one should be in the position to censor anything. there are already laws and what it and isn't suitable for adults to consume. credit is one thing since it's technically not your money but visa also issues most of the banking debit cards and will block those transactions too. 90% of these products meet current laws and refusing ANY purchase from an adult is a constitutional violation. if people want to jerk it to furry porn in their basement that is (unfortunately) their lawful right.

>>718516347 (OP)
>claims to be doing this to not get bad pr for the company (nonsense)
>doing this gets unprecedented bad pr for the company
It would by funny in an ironic way if we didnt know that it was a cover up by the elite.

>>718516473
>someone put up a site following the anti-censorship campaign which have all the information up do date including petitions and contacts is a good idea to bookmark it before it gets taken down:
>https://stop-paypros.neocities.org/
cool
>is confirmed MasterCard and VISA are paying people to police chats and negative comments against them online
jew moment

>>718521374
>And yet are
>>using their payment processors to ban the porn they own
lol no. they more like banning the competition

>>718521374
Why do you post this every thread? Is this a bot?
Jews are only banning the porn they --DON'T-- own.

>>718530215
Yeah, Riot is basically monitoring for anti-MasterCard sentiment. Why are Chinese worried about the Visa/MasterCard situation hmm? Could it be related to Chinese global takeover/economic warfare backlash over trump tariffs? We know China is connected with Australia's leftists since they literally have ex-military members (intelligence agents) in the Australian politics.

>>718530776
china has bought off half of congress

>>718516473
>is confirmed MasterCard and VISA are paying people to police chats and negative comments against them online

>target porn because of "reputational risk"
>everyone has a negative reaction and cause actual "reputational risk" and damage to your brand
>seethe and try to silence criticism and damage control shit that you caused in the first place

>>718530906
Yeah, its scary stuff man, Australia is doomed.

>>718525061
So, uh how long is he going to have this position? Surely there is some sort of term limit he has to abide by, right?

>>718525624
>LIVE ACTION porn that would have been IMPOSSIBLE to make legally is getting a pass on OF
Bullshit.

>>718531004
i meant usa but i wouldn't be surprised if it was everywhere

I don't remember normies giving a fuck when wikileaks or japan were getting targeted by PPs

>>718522786
>literal WEEK
go back faggot

>>718531316
Lil Tay posted numerous videos the very minute the clock hit 12:01 on her 18th birthday.

>>718521374
This is a Jewish world, you goys are just living in it.

>>718525061
>muh project 2025
You lost Kamala

>>718529581
While there's somewhat of an overlap, this payment processor thing is a different problem.
But yeah, release the files now.

>>718531345
>wikileaks or japan were getting targeted by PPs

What makes you think that normies give a fuck now? Shit you not, they protest against the man by using a clippy avatar

>>718516456
>why do you people keep spamming this shit here
Kys

>>718516347 (OP)
>Stripe noted that it does not support adult content
I bet you can use them to pay pornhub

>>718531795
Don't worry, you'll stop once we get real life ID. Your shitposting days are over cunt

>>718516347 (OP)
>LGTBQ experiences to also be removed
>For many LGBTQ+ developers, Itch is one of the very few places left on the internet for us to express our gender and sexuality
>Sex: Mom Son Incest and Sex Adventures: Incest Family
>indie horror game about the aftermath of sexual abuse
>So [this] really does feel personal and anti-LGBTQ
>Sexuality is complicated
wtf I love censorship now?!

>>718516347 (OP)
I understand some of the spokespeople are LGBT, since that's the best way to get through to normies, so they might understand. I get posters who got some fatigue from political stuff, aswell, but that's games getting on news 4u.

>>718530108
anon... they're on your side for once...

>>718525635
citation needed.
haven't been on a porn website that culled since

>>718525061
Stop trying to divide and conquer kike. Nobody cares. This is a card and kike issue, not a left and right

>>718532040
You should support a faggot's right to be a faggot when he's not in public.
If he wants to make faggot shit he should be allowed to do so.
If he wants to sell his faggot shit he should be allowed to do so.
If someone wants to host his faggot shit they should be allowed to do so.
If people want to buy his faggot shit they should be allowed to do so.
If people want to discuss his faggot shit they should be allowed to do so.

The only time this should not be allowed is when it gets flaunted around in the physical public. All digital domains should be operated according to the domain's owner, not the domain's infrasctructure or finance monkeys.

>>718516456
>Group of cultists own the payment companies and want everything censored

Why the absolute fuck would nobody talk about that

>>718532327
This is absolutely a left and right issue, you dumb motherfuckers never learned anything from Jack Thompson and his ilk. You sure owned the libs voting a bunch of conservatives into the federal government, and you also cut off your nose to spite your face.

The right is full of religious fundies who hate gays etc because it's against the bible. Pornography is considered evil by the vast majority of the world's religions. Puritanism (what the USA was founded on) considers any sex not for the sole purpose of procreation to be literally more evil than violence. All this shit is basically step one, the majority of the Republican party wants to blanket ban all pornography and will do so as soon as the situation allows them to.

>>718516347 (OP)
It looks like the Christian crowd has overreached again, and now people are beginning to hate Christians again.

>>718532561
Piss off you limp wristed left vs right faggot. Jack thompson and clintons were on the same side. Its not a blue kike vs red kike issue. Its a banker and free market one

>>718532739
I specifically blame Catholics, They can't stop touching kids and they can't stop trying to govern everyone

>>718532894
Good, let these faggots learn no side bats for them. Its all a free market issue. Cheer on any censorship and it'll come to you eventually

>>718532792
Reminder that rockstar made fun of the clintons and democrats for pushing censorship as well. Both sides are guilty of this

>>718532561
Im voting for trump

>Have to abide by bank rules, which loans out my and other people's money and when they run out of money to loan they ask the fed bank to print money which decreases the value of each point of money while still siphoning tax dollars from the American government
>Have to abide by the payment processor rules, which is arbitrary and do so while the payment processors keep the credit scam going for banks.
>Have to abide by government rules while they are on a leash by the banks because of how central and fractional banking works, where entire government agencies exist to pay back the banks.
>Have to abide corporation rules while they too are influenced by the banks, payment processors and governments which give you the false illusion of ownership.
Reminder: it is no longer "your" money once it hits the bank. Payment processors are only tier 1 of the shit sundae.

>>718533079
seconding

>>718532327
>Don't blame side
>When one side is clearly to game.
When someone doesn't want to play the blame game, they're to blame. In this case, far right conservatives in America

>>718533752
Sure retard. Notice how you're the only one starting this left and right crap. Everyone see's through you

>More deflection and damage control.
Reminder it's only far right conservative pushing censorship right now in America if you look at what states are passing and killing laws to force IDs for porn sites.
Do not fall for their lies to allow them to escape accountability.

>>718532480
Nobody cares what you think, queer.

>>718534204
>he is more focused on who is pushing it than actually stopping it

>>718532894
this is literally why no one likes them, thanks faggots!

>>718528778
Sneed autist

>>718532561
>LE BOTH SIDES... LE BAD?!

>>718532327
>>718532561
>>718532792
It's been almost 30 years since George Carlin said it out loud. They want us fighting amongst ourselves so they can run off with all the fucking money. Two sides of the same coin.

>>718536305
Mr. Enlightened Centrist is over here
>>718532792
>>718533078
>>718533905

>>718516456
Denounce the Talmud

Stop Killing Games - Successful
Laws to stop banks and payment processors from stealing my vidya - pending

It's afraid.

>>718534335
>Focusing on the people responsible is bad!
How are you going to stop it if the people those who are pushing it aren't also removed from power and influence?

>Burgermutt thinks that just because one of his political parties is pushing it, that means it has to only exist on that party's side
Across the globe the same thing is happening and guess what: It's both the leftoids and rightoids doing it. On a global scale, it IS a bi-partisan issue.

>>718516473
>Neocities
Wow this is still a thing?

>>718530776
Everyone else going censor happy strengthens china immensely. It gives them full freedom on their own initiatives, and also gives them a bigger angle when they launch their own competitor.

Consider the shit that they have on chinese owned platforms that are banned in china.

>>718532290
Anon, question.
Do you consider yourself an average person?

>>718536413
Yes, but you're missing the forest for the trees since they're, the conservatives, are using culture war shit to keep people divided and at each other's throats so they can get away with the economic and censorship shit.

Or does anyone here actually think that whole vtuber BF cheating 'scandal' wasn't tailor made astrotrufing to cause both outrage and distract from this?

>>718516456
nice try

>>718516347 (OP)
There needs to be a push to classify payment processors as utility companies. It would obviously fail but the mere discussion would scare the shit out of them.

>>718536413
Then why does one side keep passing all the tax cuts for the rich

where do i go to get badly animated adult visual novels now?

It's not banning porn, it's not banning onlyfans. It's trying to make internet ids to track and punish users who insult jews. Boomer Trump is being played thinking he's going in line with his demented le christian 2025 project of being anti-left, but all he is doing is giving more control to jews who effortlessly shapeshifted into conservative anti-woke aligned.

>>718516456
YOU STARTED THIS WAR

>>718530906
>>718531341
can you show me some pictures of american presidents and politicians giving the great wall of china some sloppy? something similar to this will do, thanks.

>>718525061
uhhh based?

>up for over 4 hours
>Only 123 posts
LMAO no-one gives a shit about this anymore. Not even the most outrage-loving losers like 4chan(/v/) posters.

>>718516347 (OP)
Based.
Total gooner death.

>>718521374
>>718516456
reminder: there's absolutely no christcuck/jew slaves who are actually banning porn anywhere. this is pilpul from christcuck vermin running defense for their masters.

the actual laws being passed in jew controlled nations all are about "verifying your age" to protect (((children))) meaning they're attempting to get a digital id to crackdown on noticers. if they want to ban porn they don't need to verify the age instead they ban the website entirely/arrest (((producers))). christcuck vermins know this and do pilpul screaming about banning porn.

the payment processors are flexing their own muscle separately censoring stuff in tandom, but they aren't banning onlyfans or (((mainstream))) filth instead they're attacking anime as a primary focus with other stuff catching strays. they can't make a law saying anime is banned so they use payment processors outside of the law to attack anime/hentai which jews don't control.

it's a two way attack from jews and christcuck vermin against the rest of humanity. they're trying to conflat these two things but they're separate cause jews aren't banning their own media/porn instead they're looking for digital id and to ban anime/non-jew controlled media.

>>718525061
Stop false-flagging kike. You are emotional poor, that's why you feel so empty despise the money you own.

>>718516347 (OP)
>Io
>that face
Clocked

>>718542203
Fuck off Russ

Will the Jewish rich elites now have to give up their loli porn as well?

>>718516347 (OP)
Reminder that half of this is easily explained as kneejerking and being fucking stupid. Censorship is very much still involved though, just more indirectly.

>Visa still feeling the sting of getting dragged into legal shit over Pornhub lawsuit
>An activist group starts mentioning them on social media
>Like anyone trying to make shit out to be as bad as possible, one of the labels the stupid cunts make is "kiddie porn!"
>Visa panics
>This makes the other card companies panic
>They start screaming at their partners to get everyone in line
>They don't know what the fuck they want
>Nobody else knows what the fuck the big companies want so they overreach to be safe
>Steam uses this as an excuse to delete minimal effort coomer slop off of their storefront and avoid any backlash from it
>Itch goes into damage control mode trying to figure out what the fuck to do
>Everyone flips out over muh censorship
>Now we are recovering
>Only to find out that it's making things very convenient for public discourse to push certain agendas in law

Granted, this did raise some very important issues and problems with the system. But the biggest problem with what's going on right now isn't the evil CEOs trying to enforce their puritan values on you, it's coincidences making shit worse.

>>718543518
>completely have politicians in their pocket and duopoly nobody can contest
>visa/mastercard can tell foreign governments to go pound sand and foreign governments can't do shit
>retards REALLY REALLY believe visa/mastercard can't fucking lobby/shop for a judge/bring it to the supreme court if they were against it
this all happened to give them an excuse to do extra-judical policing fucking retard. jews can't pass laws saying anime/hentai is baned directly so they just use visa/mastercard to extra-judical policing attacking their competition.

>visa/mastercard REALLY don't want to be able to gain newfound legal authority cause some district judge wrote nonsense they could easily overturn. they didn't want to do a powergrab and find a new way to destroy competition/redirect money towards their friends

>>718516347 (OP)
For me it's Discover card.

>>718516347 (OP)
That's either a really ugly kike tranny or a really ugly kike lady

>>718544113
>retards REALLY REALLY believe visa/mastercard can't fucking lobby/shop for a judge/bring it to the supreme court if they were against it
Oh no they absolutely can, my post is just the Hanlon's Razor approach to the whole ordeal.

>>718544409
>my approach is a jewish popculture reference spammed everywhere by (((media))) that tells me to never think the evil things they do are intentional instead assume it's an accident for decades straight
television watching retards are something else.

>Bakery refuses to make a cake for a gay wedding
"Based! Businesses reserve the right to refuse service to anyone!"
>Payment processors refuse to process payments for porn
"AAAAAIIIIIEEEE SAVE ME DADDY GOVERNMENT!!!"

Did jews overplay their hand? It seems everything they try nowadays blows up in their face. Their control over information and MSM seems to have given them a false sense of security and now it's bordering on desperation.

>>718543518
The issue is the pronhub lawsuit set off a cascading effect where more and more organizations that want to see porn banned getting involved with the highest authority being Russ Vought who now has control over companies like Visa and is on record with wanting a national porn ban.
Everyone along the chain is a threat to freedom, but unless you stop the people at the top, it's only getting worse.
Which is why the both sides argument is so undermining and designed to cover for people like Russ Vought.

>>718545127
>Middle man business is the same as one directly providing a product or service.

>>718545127
The bakery doesn't handle, process or provide all of the US's bread

>>718544798
Oh you're just going to screech incoherently at everyone who disagrees with you even slightly.

Understandable, happy (you) hunting
>>718545207
It's really fucking unfortunate how many snakes in the grass just immediately went for the ankle once it was exposed.
>>718545292
All the world's bread*

>>718545246
>>718545292
Neither group should be allowed to deny services, you're falling into a trap you retards.

>uhm please fight among each other
Sure happens a lot in these threads

>>718516456
makes kikes like you seethe

>>718545387
Divide and conquer, plus Eglin retards plague this board, /tv/ too.

>>718545350
An individual business providing a service with competition should reserve the right to deal with whomever they want. A monopoly/duopoly should not.

>>718545350
You absolutely should. Diffrenece is the scope and scale. I say this as someone who believes in state and individual rights

>>718545189
this shit's hilarious right next to the roblox bullshit
VISA™ and Mastercard™ partners by the way

>>718545387
Its blatent divide and conquer tatics. Only a complete retard would fall for it.

>>718545574
See idiots like this who are finding exceptions to what services should be denied. >>718545502
>>718545501

>>718545348
>you don't arbitrarily assume everybody is stupid and things they do are an accident for a decade straight? the jews told me i'm a smarty pants big boy and smarty pants like me always assume everything is an accident and [insert popularculture reference]. there was whole television shows that referenced this! it's science
yeah, televisioning watching retards are really something else.

>>718545634
No dude. Forcing small bussiness to accept any and all cliental is bad. This is a scale issue. Who or what else can provide the service provided by visa or mastercard? There is no alternative

>>718516347 (OP)
>CC companies wnat to protect children
>/v/irgins are against it
And yet, you claim that LGBTQ are the pedos.

>>718545790
They are, but that isn't the issue here

>>718516347 (OP)
>author is a tranny
Suck it up porn addicted losers. Christian values won. USA leading the way as a proper white nation again and will purge all the filth that transformed you into broken weirdos with weird fetishes like rape, incest and pedophilia.

>>718545790
>protect children
When are they going to go against the Trump administration for protecting pedophiles and covering up the Epstein files?

>>718521374
>create problem
>sell solution
The problem is that you don't see that this has been the plan all along.

>>718545634
An individual business that provides a product should reserve the right to determine who they will accept as customers. In a free and just market, there will be competitors. Anything that has to do with financial services (Banks, payment processors etc.) or provides a universal utility (Electricity, water) should not be able to discriminate.

>You are unable to purchase [UNAPPROVED] product. You have been deducted 100 credit score. If you have any questions please see the MasterCard Help Center for more information.
An all powerful entity controlling what people can do with the money the people LENT the bank.

>>718546104
That's the funny thing, the banking system relies on a steady stream of people letting the bank use their money (In exchange for a "fee" paid by the bank to the customer for the amount of time that the money is "held") and yet financial institutions including the bank themselves act like the money belongs to them (Might as well with the way they act "legally".)

>>718545761
>>718545961
As I said before, you're falling for divide and conquer tactics by saying only certain people have a right to refuse service. You're useful idiots and part of the problem.

>>718546578
The scope and scale of those rights are literally part of the core issues of the whole thing, what the absolute fuck are you talking about?

>>718547086
It's a zero sum game, you either serve everyone, or no one. I'm going to be nice assume you're just being a useful idiot who doesn't know any better
Cut it out and focus on the objective.

>>718545916
That's unironically what the Republicans are doing in America since trump's government is pushing the censorship, and then his own lackies in congress tried to push a bill to 'fix' it. when that stalled he did the executive order to try to walk it back.

>>718547959
You're reaching way too hard. The order has absolutely nothing to do with this porn saga. It's all about protecting his MAGA allies for when they're a financial risk to banks because they're shameless frauds and that's all its going to be enforced for. There's no walking back nothing, no selling the solution to problems of their own making. It's still Republicans full steam ahead to eradicate porn by force of law.

>>718547572
I mean my take is that everyone is pissed that the right to refuse service is being abused for censorship purposes.
If it's just the censorship, that's really evolved into its own separate issue from visa/mastercard that is just governments dogpiling in while the iron is hot after the card companies started flailing around about "risky" porn.
Even disregarding that and keeping the card companies in the crosshair for censorship alone... you still have the issue of them abusing the right to refuse service. In which case it becomes part of the issue again.
There's actually a bunch of shit that I'd like to ask since you hold this opinion but I'll let you tell me what the objective is supposed to be then, as I am being nice and assuming you are not just yelling "shill" to try and make people you don't agree with shut up.

>>718547572
No, fuck off. The right to refuse service is essential for the wellbeing of the employees of an establishment, as well as maintaining a welcoming environment for customers/clients. You should never be forced to work because someone has money.
Banking is a utility, it's not a service it's an essential facet of modern life and frankly should be regulated as such.

>>718532561
>>This is absolutely a left and right issue, you dumb motherfuckers never learned anything from Jack Thompson and his ilk.
>"Sarkeesian isn't going to take your games away."
>"Freedom of Speech doesn't mean Freedom form consequences."
>"They're a private company and they can do whatever they want."
What is very nefarious is that I think even the likes of resetera and gcj aren't shitposting/baiting in these threads anymore. At least half of Gen Y and all of Gen X and beyond across both left and right are against the rich and the jew's genocidal campaign. This is what it's really about. Steam is under attacked primarily for not being a publicly traded company they can control. I have no doubt that there really are christcucks who are involved but while Project 2025 obviously isn't real it's the same ole retarded jew-whorshipping WASPs being played like puppets who are doing this to "protect the children" and "stop hate against our greatest ally."
Make no mistake though that the majority of the left enabled this but I am sure they regret it now. The likes of Breadtube are controlled opposition. If anyone is still a successful Youtuber/podcaster/whatever it's because they're being allowed to be and thus not to be trusted. All leftists that are not retarded (I know you exist) should start posting here and heed this warning.
If someone is monetized then they aren't a rebel and are meant to lead you astray, left or right.

>>718548659
>>718549204
This is the sort of shit you're defending >>718549783
Reminder it all comes down to 'project 2025 doesn't exist, just ignore the fact that one of the leaders of it has control over payment processors'
Holy shit, talk about a desperate cover up.

>>718548558
If that was the case, he would have done it day one with all his other others since the claim that conservatives were being deplatform has been a cry for years, he only did it now because of the blowback Russ's plan to use payment processors to go after videogames and porn in America and piss off the Gen Z conservatives.

>>718525061
It is clear that the Christian crowd is having their mask-off moment now that they think they're untouchable. /v/ made a giant mistake thinking that the Christians are based.

>>718550406
>/v/ made a giant mistake thinking that the Christians are based.
What should /v/ do about this? Do you suspect that /v/ ARE Christians are should stop or something? What is the course of action being suggested?

>>718550174
Buddy I'm trying to figure out what you're upset about and talking about parts of the broken system that needs fixing. That guy is screeching about jews and I guess you're mad about republicans.
It doesn't matter who the fuck you're blaming, I'd think it'd be important to talk about ways to mend the broken-ass system that nips their shit in the bud without fucking everything up even worse somehow.

>>718516347 (OP)
yeah lets meet up IRL like as a politcal group in a single room that could easily be raked with machine gun fire and bombs like in a videogame. probably in england where most people like you are.

>>718532561
Lefties dis the same shit in different ways. You can't memory hole feminist frequency and the censorship of anime games.

>>718550495
Pulling as hard centrist as you can, because both the woke and the evangelicals are fucking cancer.

>>718550601
And the easiest way to solve everything is level everything where you cannot refuse service, the moment you make exceptions, everyone else wants in too.
Also I'm just pointing out who's currently responsible for the censorship campaign in America is. If it was Biden and the democrats passing censorship laws and I'd be going after them just as hard. But as weird as it is, their states are blocking the ID laws that are passing enmass in the Republican ones.

>>718519459
what game are we talking about?

>>718549204
This. If Visa and MC want their right to refuse service back then measures need to be taken to curtail their dominance of the payment processing space
Otherwise they have responsibilities that unfortunately require sacrifice.

>>718550601
That is one of my main points. Regardless of whose fault it is and what their real motives are, we all agree that this is bad and should be stopped. We need to figure out a course of action. The ultimate goal is for a legal and reliable method to completely bypass credit cards for digital purchases. I heard on a podcast before that pretty much every other developed country has a means to purchase goods via the Internet entirely without a credit card and that we lack that in the United States. If true, we need to figure out some way to attain this into law. The issue as I see it is the majority of purchases of online content which is the enabler of entire new industries such as indie creators, are dependent on being able to make and receive payments via the Internet. An official method to do so in the biggest consumer market, the United States, should end the abuse of power by credit cards.