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Anonymous No.718525159 >>718525269 >>718526775 >>718526916 >>718527240 >>718527391 >>718527450 >>718527492 >>718527603 >>718527605 >>718528472 >>718529730 >>718530443 >>718530573 >>718531313 >>718531723 >>718533135 >>718535545 >>718535852 >>718536160 >>718536353 >>718536882 >>718537524 >>718537728 >>718539423 >>718543583 >>718543753 >>718543759 >>718546092 >>718546848 >>718548671 >>718550039
I boughted it
What am I in for?
Anonymous No.718525209 >>718525371 >>718526397 >>718534727
$750 + tax leaving your bank account.
Anonymous No.718525269 >>718525660 >>718526169 >>718544209
>>718525159 (OP)
Retrotink is the gayest thing you could name a retro capture device

>I'm gonna play some Super Mario on my Retrotwink!
Faggot
Anonymous No.718525287
>>>/trash/
Anonymous No.718525371 >>718525428 >>718527605 >>718528603 >>718529772 >>718534945 >>718537156
>>718525209
>$750 + tax leaving your bank account.
....for the single best device in gaming.

You made the right decision OP, welcome to the club
Anonymous No.718525428 >>718525551 >>718543583
>>718525371
The single best device in gaming is a PS2.
Anonymous No.718525551 >>718526141 >>718527605 >>718529152 >>718529772 >>718533073 >>718534417
>>718525428
>The single best device in gaming is a PS2
....and the Retrotink 4k is the single best way to play your PS2
Anonymous No.718525660
>>718525269
Do you really care that much about looking cool?
Anonymous No.718526141
>>718525551
Nah.
Anonymous No.718526169 >>718528284
>>718525269
It's named after his pet rabbit apparently. Hence the rabbit logo.
Anonymous No.718526397
>>718525209
FPBP
Anonymous No.718526727 >>718527415
/vr/troons are honestly mentally ill
you can purchase whatever retrotroonk you can find and it won't change the fact that the ""retro"" game you are playing is unplayable mediocre trash that belongs in a museum
Anonymous No.718526775 >>718527068 >>718527249 >>718528385 >>718531409 >>718533312
>>718525159 (OP)
So what exactly is that? It upscales retro console output into a modern resolution? Genuinely what the fuck is the appeal of this over an emulator where you can get better image quality because it's running natively at that resolution?
Anonymous No.718526916 >>718527102 >>718527415
>>718525159 (OP)
could've just gotten a cheap mister...
Anonymous No.718527068 >>718527264 >>718527415 >>718530761
>>718526775
>So what exactly is that?
a 750 dollar tax for the tech illiterate.
Anonymous No.718527102 >>718527359
>>718526916
?

These are two totally different things. Retrotink 4k is actually the best way to play MiSter on a non-CRT.
Anonymous No.718527240 >>718527415
>>718525159 (OP)
being scammed that's what you're in for
Anonymous No.718527249
>>718526775
>It upscales retro console output into a modern resolution?
Yes and no
But no if I have to explain it more simply
It's basically a way to plug pre-HD consoles in your modern TV without the output getting fucked too much. A PS2 game will still be rendered in 480i/480p
Basically OP is retarded and I'll be playing Burnout 3 in PCSX2 in actual real HD resolution
Anonymous No.718527264 >>718527429 >>718527516
>>718527068
poorfags are so funny. If you don't know, don't speak. You just embarrass yourself.

For those who play any retro content on a non-CRT display (hell, even just 720p content), this is the absolute cream of the crop, the best of the best, the best that money can buy.
Anonymous No.718527359
>>718527102
>non-CRT
Anonymous No.718527391
>>718525159 (OP)
$750? Is this a joke?
Anonymous No.718527415 >>718527512 >>718527523 >>718527549 >>718527937 >>718531173
>>718526727
>>718526916
>>718527068
>>718527240
Why are you so ignorant? Why do you just instantly hate a niche, extremely high-end, enthusiast product with nothing comparable in the market just because it's expensive? The markup on it is not even significant, it has a lot of expensive hardware inside.
Anonymous No.718527429 >>718530429
>>718527264
cope lol
Anonymous No.718527450 >>718527738
>>718525159 (OP)
wait this thing doesn't have component and they want $750 for it? wtf?
Anonymous No.718527492
>>718525159 (OP)
retard
Anonymous No.718527512 >>718527738
>>718527415
Because you're paying to upscale when you should be playing on your CRT
Anonymous No.718527516
>>718527264
yeah but you're still gonna go to hell acting like that
Anonymous No.718527523
>>718527415
it's audiophilia tier retardation
Anonymous No.718527549
>>718527415
ok, I think you're correct here, but the way you're typing makes it sound like you're being paid to shill this. so if you're doing that please leave kthx.
Anonymous No.718527603 >>718527968 >>718528073
>>718525159 (OP)
What's the difference between my 90$ converter I bought for my PS2 that looks fine on my monitor and this?
Anonymous No.718527605 >>718527686 >>718528702 >>718530604 >>718538679
>>718525159 (OP)
>>718525371
>>718525551
Samefag. Just buy a GPU for that price and emulate, upscaled and filtered to a far greater look than this trash could ever hope to achive.
Anonymous No.718527686
>>718527605
>upscaled
Anonymous No.718527738 >>718527871 >>718530843
>>718527450
Why are you so ignorant?

>>718527512
I've played extensively on both, honestly I prefer playing on my Sony A95L nowadays.
Anonymous No.718527871 >>718539045
>>718527738
>Why are you so ignorant?
Sorry that I couldn't see the back of the product from your image. Seems neat, but it's out of my price range.
Anonymous No.718527937
>>718527415
>niche
reddit
>extremely high-end
audiophile tier reddit
>enthusiast
reddit
Anonymous No.718527968
>>718527603
>my 90$ converter I bought for my PS2 that looks fine on my monitor
This has far better de-interlacing, non-existent input lag, huge amount of extensive shader support, image adjustment and multiple profiles, can handle from multiple inputs and automatically switch, etc.
Anonymous No.718528073
>>718527603
Its better because its not chinese made and is being developed by american chadpreets
Anonymous No.718528093 >>718528176
It's the first of many steps to get your real console to look exactly like an emulator.
Next you need an expensive scart cable, and RGB mod, and a single chip snes or the voultar blur remover if it's a two chip...
Anonymous No.718528176 >>718528814
>>718528093
or just use a MiSTer...
Anonymous No.718528284
>>718526169
huh even the thing it was named after is gay
rabbits are female coded pets
Anonymous No.718528385
>>718526775
>So what exactly is that?
See this high resolution image of a retro game? This is what it does. It upscales the image cleanly so it looks better on your TV than just plugging it in. It can also do some shaders
It doesn't add any detail or make 3D games higher resolution
Anonymous No.718528472 >>718528526
>>718525159 (OP)
the future realistion that emulators are just better at upscaling shit
Anonymous No.718528526
>>718528472
>upscaling shit
retard alert
Anonymous No.718528603
>>718525371
Fucking retard
Anonymous No.718528702 >>718532469
>>718527605
>upscaled and filtered
That's faggotry. I don't get why you zoomers are so obsessed with trash like that. Emulate. Don't fuck games up.

Ultra-wide Mario 64 is cool though
Anonymous No.718528814 >>718529638
>>718528176
For many platforms, the MiSTer is actually less precise than software emulators.
Each "core" is a VHDL program written using the same documentations as the software emulators.
There are advantages on systems with many chips that need to be in sync like the sega saturn, and there's less audio delay (software emulators can do 40ms at the best while mister can do zero), but it's not a 1:1 recreation of the real hardware, because no one knows how the real hardware is unless decapped and fully reverse engineered.
Also for people that do more shit like i, such as game development for old shit, the MiSter is basically useless.
In my specific case, it is less precise than OpenMSX, can't test the plethora of different MSX computers and can't do debugging and breakpoints and watching the sprite tables and all the fancy shit i need.
Anonymous No.718528915
>750bucks
Why wouldn't you just buy a CRT?
Anonymous No.718529036 >>718529089 >>718529206 >>718530018
Can this thing make the waterfalls in Sonic transparent like they're supposed to be?
Anonymous No.718529089
>>718529036
I own the 5x and yes. It does.
Anonymous No.718529118
Tink? I have a friend named Tinka and she looks like a rabbit
Anonymous No.718529152 >>718529765
>>718525551
It will always be cheaper to install an hdmi mod which will have miles better quality than upscaling a composite output.
Anonymous No.718529206 >>718530447
>>718529036
Yes, but you could just emulate and use shaders for the exact same effect because it's how it achieves it, with shaders
Anonymous No.718529638 >>718533629
>>718528814
All the main cores are as accurate or moreso than even the most accurate software emulators. Even in the most thorough comparisons with original hardware, you cannot find any difference. For example, it's one of only a couple emulators to perfectly pass the AGS Aging Cartridge test 100% and the only to achieve 100% in scsptest.

It has standardized hardware that provides a consistent experience for everyone, and has the largest development effort so is consistently getting even better everyday.
Anonymous No.718529730 >>718529886
>>718525159 (OP)
>Gotta have that """dedicated box""" in my living room so people can see what a hardcore gamer i am
Unreal.
You get a better experience with more customisation options just using an emulator, and they're free.
Anonymous No.718529765
>>718529152
PS2 supported component

Composite looks fine (better in some ways) on CRT but I would never use it a modern display
Anonymous No.718529772
>>718525371
>>718525551
buy an ad
Anonymous No.718529805
videogames version of snakeoil
Anonymous No.718529886 >>718530348
>>718529730
N64, Saturn, Xbox, PS2, Gamecube/Wii emulation are still dogshit compared to OG hardware.

This also works great for 7th gen consoles
Anonymous No.718529958 >>718530307 >>718530576
Would this actually make sense for me? I still have my PS2, Gamecube, a bunch of other older consoles and my games. PS2 looks really dark using a converter to HDMI to the point where I absolutely missed items playing Code Veronica (no I will not emulate when I have the actual hardware)
Anonymous No.718530018
>>718529036
Ah yes. Lets destroy the image of an entire video game with an atrocious NTSC shader, just so that the waterfall in stage 1 of sonic that's literally only on the screen for 1 second appears to be semi-transparent....


Someone on emugen/ said it best:
>imaging there's a mosquito in your living room. But instead of swatting it you throw a grenade in there. It kills the mosquito but it also destroys your room, all your furniture, and a huge part of your roof. That's the equivalent of using composite shaders to mimic pseudo-transparency
Anonymous No.718530093
>literally every review sings its praises endlessly
>a product with no equal (or even anything close) anywhere on the market
>b-b-b-but it's le bad because expensive!!!
Poorfags are so funny
Anonymous No.718530307
>>718529958
Yes, it's the best deinterlacer that money can buy, as well as extensive shader support if that's your thing.

Those chinkshit devices add a shit ton of input lag, fuck up the image quality, and the deinterlacing causes blurry artifacts
Anonymous No.718530348 >>718530460
>>718529886
You are delusional my man. Internal upscaling, removing texture filtering / blur etc makes retro games look astronomically better and is only possible on emulators
Anonymous No.718530429
>>718527429
arrest lol
Anonymous No.718530443
>>718525159 (OP)
>download rom for free
>download emulator free
>set anisotropic filtering to 16x or higher
>1000x better than paying 750$ for a scam box
You should have just given me the money instead of paying for that shit. Not only that, how often are you actually going to be playing retro to warrant paying 750$ AND the console, and game. Seems like a complete waste of money.
Anonymous No.718530447 >>718530541
>>718529206
shaders have been terrible from my experience, they never scale properly.
Anonymous No.718530460
>>718530348
No the fuck they don't. Upscaling looks terrible for anything before Gen 7
Anonymous No.718530541
>>718530447
Use integer scaling then bub
Anonymous No.718530573
>>718525159 (OP)
>$750 so 3D games all look like shit
And they call audiophiles stupid.
Anonymous No.718530576 >>718530912 >>718531021
>>718529958
Not this one, unless you are really anal about 4K. Get the 5x, it cheaper, does 90% of the stuff this does, but it maxes out at 1440p.
Anonymous No.718530579
750 bucks is pretty squarely in the 'just buy an overpriced crt if you care that much' territory.
Anonymous No.718530604 >>718539450
>>718527605
>GPU
CPU is far more important for emulation.
Anonymous No.718530740
Considering how popular the chink shit controller threads are. It's no surprise poorfags seethe at threads like these.
Anonymous No.718530761
>>718527068
It's not for the tech illiterate
They will just use the native hardware or stumble their way through emulation
This isn't for the tech literate either
They're not buying fetish ewaste when desktop or phone emulation achieves the same effect
This is for midwits who think they're too cool for emulation and want to cluster fuck shit beyond their comprehension
Anonymous No.718530843 >>718530948
>>718527738
My bunny looks like that
Anonymous No.718530912 >>718531086
>>718530576
Don't do this.

I bought 5x and regretted it since I can only use it for my PS2. Don't get me wrong, it's great for PS2, but RT4k is better for PS2 as well as working for MiSTer, Gamecube, Wii, PS3, and even XSX for playing OG Xbox or 360 games.

Don't cheap out and regret it.
Anonymous No.718530948
>>718530843
cute bunny
Anonymous No.718531021
>>718530576
Oh nice, thanks for that, my TV is 4K but I play 1440p so this is a much better deal for me, don't care much about 4K for Fatal Frame or Siren.
Anonymous No.718531086 >>718531295
>>718530912
I use a 5x for my PS2 and Wii. What's the issue with it?
Anonymous No.718531173
>>718527415
Why wouldn't I pair native hardware with a CRT? Why wouldn't I just emulate if I'm outputting to HD anyway? Even the misterfag makes more sense than the memetink.
Anonymous No.718531295
>>718531086
There's no issue with it, it just can't work with HDMI which vastly limits its supported systems, has extremely limited shader support, only goes up to 1440p, and doesn't have as good deinterlacing or inverse telecine.
Anonymous No.718531313
>>718525159 (OP)
Is this the new Mister? AKA for retards who have a fetish for buying junk
Anonymous No.718531409
>>718526775
Cool it with the antisemitism.
Anonymous No.718531562
Why is /v/ so poor and brown?
Anonymous No.718531723 >>718531973
>>718525159 (OP)
You could spend $100 on a GBS-C or go track down a decent CRT. I feel like this is more of a meme than people who spent hundreds on PVMs instead of getting a PC CRT monitor when they were cheap.
Anonymous No.718531973
>>718531723
>another stupid poorfag who has no idea what he's talking about
Anonymous No.718532358 >>718532565
Another great use for this is downscaling for play on a SD CRT.

It also can't be stressed enough how good this is for early HD systems like PS3 and 360

It's really good for VHS, Laserdiscs, and DVDs

It's one of the only devices for any market that actually is pretty much everything you could ever ask for. I just still can't believe something like this exists
Anonymous No.718532469 >>718532785
>>718528702
are you fucking stupid a gamecube game is like 3 inches wide on my monitor
Anonymous No.718532565 >>718532785
>>718532358
>and DVDs
Bluray players already do a pretty good job of upscaling DVDs, but fair point.
Anonymous No.718532785 >>718533095 >>718535085
>>718532469
wat
I meant the M64 decompiled release, and ulta-wide mode that people made

>>718532565
>upscaling DVDs
Faggotry
Anonymous No.718533073
>>718525551
o rly?
Anonymous No.718533095
>>718532785
do you know what upscaling is
Anonymous No.718533135
>>718525159 (OP)
Kino
Anonymous No.718533312
>>718526775
Autism doesn't let them play emulators that have 99.9% accuracy.
Anonymous No.718533629 >>718533883
>>718529638
we get it, you got scammed and have to defend your purchase
Anonymous No.718533883
>>718533629
It's literally the best gaming purchase I've ever made and I use it just about every day. Seethe harder poorfag
Anonymous No.718534238 >>718534448
why would you buy this over a steam deck
Anonymous No.718534417
>>718525551
just get a CRT
Anonymous No.718534448 >>718534804
>>718534238
Why are you poorfags so stupid?
Anonymous No.718534727
>>718525209
and the wifey's toy purchasing punishment fee... and the orange man's epic tariffs... and the bull's uber... and
Anonymous No.718534804
>>718534448
poor people are known for buying shit devices whose functionality is completely absorbed by cheaper devices
like the little toy in the op being worse than the deck
Anonymous No.718534925
You bought snake oil that is worse than modding in an HDMI/DP or using an emulator. There's only so much post-process you can do to enhance the image and most of it is computationally very cheap by modern standards.
You can buy literal FPGA reimplementations of retro consoles for less with all of that stuff built-in.
Anonymous No.718534945 >>718535238
>>718525371
>raw material cost like 200 at most
>the rest is just insane engineering markup for some extra code iterating on the last device.
That jew Mike chi has it made
Anonymous No.718535085
>>718532785
If you watch a 480p video in fullscreen on your 1440p display, you are upscaling it.
Anonymous No.718535238 >>718535754 >>718536210
>>718534945
$200 BOM lmao
all of this shit including audiophile shit is made extremely cheap we're talking maybe $10 BOM
people have disassembled many of these devices and they're all the cheapest garbage possible using these cheapo single layer green PCBs you won't find anymore in any quality product nowadays
Anonymous No.718535545 >>718536281
>>718525159 (OP)
is this the equivalent of those anaconda audio cables?
Anonymous No.718535754
>>718535238
man i wish consumer electronics picked literally any pcb colour that isn't fucking black
i'd take white or lime or pink, fucking anything that isn't this soulless colour
Anonymous No.718535852 >>718536027 >>718536120 >>718543583
>>718525159 (OP)
from the thumbnail i thought that an intel cpu from back when they were slot-in cards
Anonymous No.718536027
>>718535852
>bentium :DDD
Anonymous No.718536120
>>718535852
Shit i saw that too
Anonymous No.718536160
>>718525159 (OP)
I was an early adopter for the retrotink 5x and it's pretty great.
Anonymous No.718536210 >>718537338
>>718535238
internals alone in the retrotink 4k are like $500
Anonymous No.718536281
>>718535545
It's very specific.
Imagine you have this vinyl audiophile that swears that CDs are imperfect and too "souless", but at the same time he use a digital turntable, and a massive chain of audio filters to remove any and all imperfections of the vinyl record before playing on decentish speakers what sound exactly like audio CD.
Anonymous No.718536353 >>718536528 >>718536736 >>718536860
>>718525159 (OP)
I'm not smart.
What does it do OP?
Anonymous No.718536528
>>718536353
What televisions should actually do well but for some retarded reason they don't.
You shove old console pictures in, and it outputs it to HDMI without retarded huge lag or forced interlacing or horrible 2xSAI like filters or..
Picture in, picture out.
Also it can understand a shitload of different kinds of signals.
Anonymous No.718536736
>>718536353
However you can buy an OSSC that does the same job but for a fraction of the price.
And by the same job i mean scaling without lag and all that, not just being some chink composite to HDMI box that add half second of lag.
Anonymous No.718536860 >>718537156 >>718537198
>>718536353
Essentially the single greatest device in existence when it comes to every form of SD and even HD720p content.

https://youtu.be/_KUxCUtSiI4?t=98
Anonymous No.718536882
>>718525159 (OP)
Didnt he start making these things because the alternatives at the time were also really expensive? I bought one of the early models years ago for $100 and still thought it was ridiculously expensive at the time.
What the fuck have they added to it over the years?
Anonymous No.718537156
>>718536860
>the single greatest device in existence
>>718525371
>....for the single best device in gaming.
totally not a shill thread.
Anonymous No.718537198 >>718537314 >>718537468
>>718536860
lmao yeah I'll stay with my mClassic for a good while
Anonymous No.718537314 >>718537367
>>718537198
>mandatory smoothing filter
Retrotink 4k has a huge amount of settings and features to get it to look exactly like that abomination or much better. There are tons of presets that already look far better than mClassic.
Anonymous No.718537338
>>718536210
Source? FPGAs whose complexity is way beyond that cost less. Hardware that can do BFI (at fixed refresh rate) and complex scaling algorithms can be had for $100-200.
It doesn't even implement its own VRR to justify its price like G-Sync modules did, it's using basic VESA VRR. Where did all that $500 go towards?
Anonymous No.718537367
>>718537314
>at 7x the price cost
yeah no thanks shill
Anonymous No.718537468
>>718537198
I don't know what the mClassic is, but can you turn off the filter? Looks really bad but I'm very interested in more options like this.
Anonymous No.718537524 >>718537609
>>718525159 (OP)
why don't you just go find a CRT on marketplace or something? boomers give em away where I live.
Anonymous No.718537609 >>718537708
>>718537524
Because he wants to connect it to his 4K TV, I'd assume
Anonymous No.718537631 >>718537718
retrofags are mentally ill
people have higher image quality on cheap ass chink emulation devices
your input is extremely low res and you CANNOT create data out of thin air, the console doesn't render the detail this scam claims to "recover"
if you want a clean image that still looks like the original just render in 2x res and downscale it to native res
it'll still look retro and blocky but will remove jaggies and other imperfection because it actually has more data to work with
then you can integer scale to avoid upscaling artifacts
Anonymous No.718537708 >>718537757 >>718537804
>>718537609
at that point you're better off just emulating though
Anonymous No.718537718
>>718537631
another ignorant, low IQ poorfag just spouting garbage about things they know nothing about.
Anonymous No.718537728
>>718525159 (OP)
buy an ad
buy a rope
pick one option, faggot
Anonymous No.718537757 >>718537925
>>718537708
Why do you think that?
Anonymous No.718537804 >>718537925 >>718538013
>>718537708
MiSTer + retrotink 4k absolutely mogs the fuck out of emulation, this is especially true for PS2, Gamecube/Wii, Dreamcast, Saturn, N64, PS3, Xbox, and 360 of which the emulation is still poor compared to original hardware.
Anonymous No.718537925 >>718538430
>>718537757
you don't have to pay $750 for a device to hook 1 console up to it at a time
>>718537804
I wasn't aware MiSTer wasn't emulation but yeah one of those would be infinitely better as well
Anonymous No.718538013 >>718538182
>>718537804
>Emulation completely free, ability to upscale as much as you want
>MiSTer + retrotink allows you to have marginally better image quality for close to $1000+retro system+game
I really wish I had an autistic amount of money to throw away.
Anonymous No.718538182
>>718538013
buddy, you don't need original hardware with the MiSTer.

The only actual systems you need are those not supported for MiSTer, so a hacked PS2, hacked Wii (includes GameCube), and hacked PS3. Those are all pretty cheap and can easily be acquired for under $50.

You can optionally get a Dreamcast, OG Xbox, and 360 but those barely have any games anyone cares about
Anonymous No.718538430 >>718538639
>>718537925
And that means emulation is better? I don't think so. Just means it's more convinent for you.
Anonymous No.718538639 >>718538897
>>718538430
no I just mean it's more cost effective, convenient, and you have access to an endless supply of games on torrents instead of being at the mercy of overpriced cartridges and wired controllers. I think if you insist on original hardware for authenticity you're better off getting a CRT for nearly free. I won't claim to be some sort of autistic retro expert though.
Anonymous No.718538679
>>718527605
emulation is illegal thoughbeit????
Anonymous No.718538695
>upres retro game in emulator
>it looks like shit, high-res models combined with low-res textures
>various texture qualities clash as they were never meant to be viewed at higher res
>artifacts out the ass
turd worlders truly have no standards.
Anonymous No.718538897
>>718538639
If you don't already own your consoles/games, sure, I can see this.
But a lot of us are old, and already own all the retro shit we want, so the cost isn't a problem. We just want to play our old games.
>CRT
I always hated CRT's. Too big, certainly don't have space for one anymore. Picture quality is nice for games, but I don't miss the eye strain.
Anonymous No.718539017 >>718539261 >>718544370
emufags be like
>yeeep, looking good
Anonymous No.718539045 >>718540146
>>718527871
the one he is showing off is the extra fancy no compromises version, if you want something far more basic they have basic ones for more specific use cases.

the $750 does it all and offers the most but it is also massively more expensive.
Anonymous No.718539189 >>718539349 >>718543195 >>718544137
There's this thing called emulators, they're free and most of em can run every single commercial game without any issues, specially for things under the PS1.
You can play systems that are incredibly expensive and rare like the X68000, you can have a collection of 100 arcades without having a mansion, you can turn off sprite limits per scanline, you can overclock CPUs to get rid of slowdowns...
It is pretty good and you can use screen filters to simulate CRTs and all that.
Of course, that's for playing games.
If you want to develop games for consoles or old computers, you will need something 100% precise, as in the actual real consoles.
Anything else won't be precise enough and take in account weird shit that happens in the real hardware that are not known, or things that can't be emulated like the analog part of the system, or weird bus conflicts, or things like different clock crystals like the snes, that has literally two different systems plugged in by a network.
Anonymous No.718539261
>>718539017
That's nintendo changing the textures.
Anonymous No.718539349 >>718540165
>>718539189
>without any issues
False. There are very few perfect emulators.
Anonymous No.718539423
>>718525159 (OP)
Looks like a VHS
Anonymous No.718539450 >>718539582
>>718530604
>AMD completely dominates Intel
Has something like this happened in the last ~20 years? Even when at times AMD was better than Intel, I think they were marginally better, but Jesus Christ, they're completely raping Intel now.
Anonymous No.718539582 >>718544573
>>718539450
no, it is caused by how ridiculous cpu development has become to get any sort of performance gains.

truly microscopic processes, AMD merely figured out how to make shit work while Intel is scratching their heads.
Anonymous No.718540146
>>718539045
oh that's cool
Anonymous No.718540165 >>718540810
>>718539349
The keyword here is "commercial games".
Most emulators are developed by testing all the commercial games on the system and fixing em until all games run.
Anything outside em is up to tits.
For example, BlueMSX will run all MSX and MSX2 games perfectly, but it is stupidly horribly lenient. for example, you can read the disk without turning the motor of the drive on, the data just magically "leap" to the disk controller registers.
You can also write the sprite table outside of the vblank, and even change the video memory configuration without consequences.
This will not affect commercial games because none of em do that wrong on purpose, as it would result in horrible errors on the real system.
Also OpenMSX will give you a daily dose for trying.
Anonymous No.718540810 >>718541105
>>718540165
Most "commercial games" do not run perfectly on emulators.
Because there are very few flawless emulators.
Anonymous No.718541105 >>718541290
>>718540810
I imagine that everything snes and down is basically perfect by my own experience of running every game of the mega drive for example.
But this one need to use blastem, not the gens because gens fuck with the music of 3-4 games.
Anonymous No.718541140 >>718541298 >>718543686
why are people pretending $750 is expensive and everyone who doesn't want this thing is a poorfag? most people in here probably have a GPU that costs that much
Anonymous No.718541290 >>718541852
>>718541105
>I imagine
You'd have to, because it's simply not true.
A supposedly "perfect" NES emulator came out a few years ago and it takes several gigs of ram. It's extremely hard to be perfect.
>Basically perfect
That means it's not perfect, so thanks for admiting you were wrong.
Anonymous No.718541298
>>718541140
Just get a free tv and play games instead
Anonymous No.718541852 >>718541934
>>718541290
The "emulator" you're talking about is actually a simulation of the NES, not emulation, it's like this website:
http://visual6502.org/JSSim/index.html
But running the PPU too
Nestopia that does emulate the NES perfectly can be run on a 300 Mhz CPU.
The "i imagine" comes from the fact all systems are just very simple using the same 3 or 4 CPUs, and if there is any that is not good at it is because the only dude that did the emulator is painfully lazy.
You can do a literal perfect ZX81 emulator for example by just getting the OpenMSX Z80 core and adding a simple shift register output shit.
You can do the same with coleco, by just reconfiguring the memory map a bit, as it's the same exact components of the MSX and so forth.
SG1000 and master system, same deal.
And that's talking about shit you can use to develop games for.
My "commercial games" line is a lot more lenient, because it only require the games to look and play the same, with everything that is not directly relevant to the game not mattering.
Anonymous No.718541934 >>718542134
>>718541852
You already admitted they're not perfect anon.
You already admitted you were wrong.
Anonymous No.718542134 >>718542205
>>718541934
Well, i can't call an emulator that don't behave exactly like the real hardware software wise perfect.
As i stated on the first post, blueMSX is not perfect, but it is perfect if all you want to do is play all MSX games.
Anonymous No.718542205 >>718542476
>>718542134
>blueMSX is not perfect, but it is perfect
Contradiction.
Anonymous No.718542476 >>718542570 >>718545170
>>718542205
If your purpose is to play already released games, blueMSX is perfect.
If your purpose is to develop new games, it is imperfect.
I imagine i'm literally the only person in this thread developing a game for an 8bit computer, or even developing a game for anything other than a PC at all.
Anonymous No.718542570 >>718543184
>>718542476
>blueMSX is perfect.
It's literally not. You already admitted it's not.
If you think it's perfect, prove it and demonstrate it in your next reply.

Otherwise, stop posting.
Anonymous No.718543184 >>718543391
>>718542570
I don't think you would understand if i tried to explain more, if you can't understand the basic concept of "it will run every game you can get on the internet that you toss at it, because it was made to run every game available on the internet".
Also this thread would be dead before i would be able to test the 2000+ games on the MSX>
Anonymous No.718543195 >>718543403
>>718539189
Is there a way to change the UI of snes9x or bsnes to something that resembles zsnes? There's so much sovl in it but I don't want to use outdated software.
Anonymous No.718543391 >>718543619
>>718543184
Thanks for confirming you couldn't do it.
Concession accepted. You can stop posting now.
Anonymous No.718543403 >>718543782
>>718543195
ZMZ is probably what you're looking for:
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=5681
Anonymous No.718543583
>>718525159 (OP)
You got scammed, a hacked PS3 does better

>>718525428
No, a hacked PS3, they can play PS2 as well

>>718535852
Same
Anonymous No.718543619 >>718543697
>>718543391
I will keep defending emulators as a good enough solution and there's nothing you can do to stop me, because well, it is a good enough solution for people that just want to fuck around with released games.
And if you want to stop me, you will have to show me a game on a system that is not a fucking jaguar that does not run.
Actually even jaguar is hard due bigPRemu running every jaguar game (all the 20 or so of em).
Anonymous No.718543686
>>718541140
Because it is for chink plastic
Anonymous No.718543697 >>718543919
>>718543619
>good enough
They are good enough.
But they are not perfect, which was your original (incorrect) claim.
Anonymous No.718543753
>>718525159 (OP)
>750 smackers + tip for a middle man to play old shit on a flat screen
At this rate, wasting a bit of screen for an old fatass TV seems more appealing.
Anonymous No.718543759
>>718525159 (OP)
>$750
it better be sucking my cock for that much
Anonymous No.718543782
>>718543403
Thanks!
Anonymous No.718543919 >>718544137
>>718543697
>they're free and most of em can run every single commercial game without any issues,
This is the original quote of my original post.
There's no perfect here.
In some point of the discussion, "runs all commercial games" turned into perfect for some bizarre reason, basically semantic shit.
Anonymous No.718544137
>>718543919
You said, and I quote

>>718539189
>without any issues

Which means, it runs perfectly, which you have now admitted wasn't true.
You can't weasel your way out of this. I know exactly what you said, and what you said was incorrect.
Anonymous No.718544209
Buyer's remorse, given you're seeking validation here.
>>718525269
It's named after his pet rabbit.
Anonymous No.718544370
>>718539017
That's the official HD version for Wii U on the left, retard
Anonymous No.718544573 >>718546052 >>718548314
>>718539582
>AMD merely figured out how to make shit work while Intel is scratching their heads
That's not it
TSMC manufactures AMD's CPUs and they're able to make really advanced shit
Intel manufactures their own CPUs but their fabs are shit
AMD wouldn't have these CPUs without TSMC, they depend on TSMC
Anonymous No.718545170 >>718545997
>>718542476

>developing a game for an 8bit computer...

nta anon but why are you doing this?
Anonymous No.718545503
What is your justification for the 4k? The 5x is more than adequate for most "regular ass gamers".
Anonymous No.718545997 >>718546078
>>718545170
It's fun and the MSX2 don't have many horizontal scrollers.
Anonymous No.718546052 >>718546162
>>718544573
Everyone depends on TSMC, this is not an arugment in favor of AMD, if Intel weren't fucking retards, they would have continued getting TSMC contracts instead of thinking they can develop fabs that took half a century to develop in a decade. Taiwan has countless, they can't manage to build one.
Anonymous No.718546078 >>718548021
>>718545997
Post it on /vr/ when you're ready to release a demo or something
Anonymous No.718546092
>>718525159 (OP)
>bought this to plug all my consoles in
>realize I don’t have the best cables possible for every console
>realize I could just buy a crt and even composite would look okay
>buy a crt
>now only use this for some dreamcast games
It’s good if you literally have no way of owning a crt but it does suck how the community around this is obsessed with scart or vga cables
Anonymous No.718546162
>>718546052
That's what I said
Anonymous No.718546848
>>718525159 (OP)
so instead of going on ebay and getting a crt tv, u chose to pay for some chink shit to play on your modern tv? u could have just emulated by connecting your pc to your tv, retard
Anonymous No.718548021
>>718546078
I will for sure
Anonymous No.718548314 >>718548667
>>718544573
intel doesn't make their own CPUs anymore, they haven't for several years now, at least for their flagships
they're made at TSMC just like AMD, they just can't design chips that can compete with them, it's as simple as that
Anonymous No.718548667 >>718550068
>>718548314
>they're made at TSMC
Not entirely
Anonymous No.718548671
>>718525159 (OP)
I bought one at launch and I fucking love it. If you got the cable to go along with it, it makes your games look so good you would think its emulation
Anonymous No.718550039
>>718525159 (OP)
Anonymous No.718550068
>>718548667
"at least for their flagships"
those definitely are not flagships, interesting they're trying with their 18A node but it doesn't seem ready for actual desktop cpus, god knows when that'll be the case
Anonymous No.718550091
I use the 5X because 1080p is more than enough.