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Anonymous No.718599150 >>718600313 >>718602791 >>718603214 >>718604284 >>718604883 >>718608702 >>718608843 >>718608997 >>718609558 >>718610593 >>718611605 >>718616143 >>718616350 >>718617828 >>718620442 >>718622450 >>718629853 >>718637230 >>718637947 >>718638504
Still the KING
Anonymous No.718600170
based OP applying mk ultra with the filename
Anonymous No.718600271 >>718601926
Yeah, it's good. I wish an official port came out tho
Anonymous No.718600313 >>718616773 >>718619641 >>718625593
>>718599150 (OP)
King of what?
Anonymous No.718600450 >>718600621 >>718605163 >>718629963
This game is far far worse than DS2. It's sad From Soft hasn't been able to recapture the magic of it.
Anonymous No.718600621 >>718601607 >>718609724 >>718629963 >>718638359
>>718600450
according to whoms't? latest /v/ pool btw
Anonymous No.718601607 >>718601916
>>718600621
>He thinks the opinion of a gacha board matters
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Anonymous No.718601916 >>718602043 >>718609724
>>718601607
ok lol
Anonymous No.718601926
>>718600271
Don't worry, bluepoint will demake it for the ps6
Anonymous No.718602043 >>718602224
>>718601916
>Has to rely on user score cope
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Anonymous No.718602224 >>718602758 >>718624035
>>718602043
>N-no, no no! That doesn't c-count either!
DS2 is shit. Nobody thinks otherwise except for 5 autists. It's okay to have shit taste but I'm not accepting it.
Anonymous No.718602758 >>718602918
>>718602224
Hmm, seems to have the second highest score in your own pic.
Anonymous No.718602791
>>718599150 (OP)
ds3 with regenerating health
Anonymous No.718602918 >>718604202
>>718602758
worst user and still lower than one game that we don't need to mention :)
Anonymous No.718603028 >>718603458 >>718604357
Why does the game still stutter a lot on my mid-high end PC?

I'm patiently awaiting for bigger patches for Shadps4, but for how long... I just want to experience the game fully - and mid Autumn seems the most appropriate season to play it... ugh
Anonymous No.718603110 >>718604127 >>718604696 >>718612341 >>718619975 >>718625685 >>718641795
>Dark Souls fans get Elden Ring as a spiritual successor
>Bloodborne fans get a multiplayer PVP game as a spiritual successor

being a BB fan is suffering
Anonymous No.718603203 >>718603756 >>718603894 >>718604147 >>718619801
Bloodborne is just a worse, dumb downed version of 3. The only people still talking about it and snoys clinging to some sort of relevancy in the modern gaming sphere.
Anonymous No.718603214
>>718599150 (OP)
Of shit
Anonymous No.718603458
>>718603028
All modern FromSoft have serious framepacing issues. It might read 60fps or whatever but your frametime would look like v-tach if you were to graph it.

It's bizarre to me that there are fan patches that fix it but From won't implement them into their enigne.
Anonymous No.718603756
>>718603203
>i-i-its just ds3
The classic refrain of the PCoper
Anonymous No.718603894
>>718603203
kek
Anonymous No.718604127 >>718604275 >>718604696
>>718603110
it gets worse
>nintendo netcode
>fromsoft netcode
>handheld played almost 100% on brown-tier wifi
>30fps, which really means 20-30fps like in BB

might unironically be the first fromsoft flop, shame, good premise if it was released on pc with uncapped framerate and if from actually worked on their multiplayer infrastructure
Anonymous No.718604147 >>718606014
>>718603203
what's your favorite game, anon. let's see how relevant it is in 2025
Anonymous No.718604202 >>718604319
>>718602918
>Still clinging to user score
lol.
Anonymous No.718604275 >>718604478 >>718637631
>>718604127
They would have to be retarded to make a multiplayer only game exclusive to a single platform.
It'll be like a year exclusivity at most.
Anonymous No.718604284
>>718599150 (OP)
Of rolling.
Anonymous No.718604319 >>718604664
>>718604202
it has higher critic score, so by every non-autistic metric in which you can measure if a gamer is better, it's understood to be better.
Anonymous No.718604357
>>718603028
if its any consolation its also comfy during the cold winter months, cainhurst is toptier winter kino even if its incredibly short
Anonymous No.718604478
>>718604275
i remember posting this exact thing about bb during the dlc release with all the chalice dungeon possibilities and fun fast-paced pvp
lmao
kill me[/spoiiler]
Anonymous No.718604664 >>718604892
>>718604319
Yeah. it has a higher critic score than every Fromsoft game besides ER and BB.
Anonymous No.718604696 >>718604926
>>718603110
>>718604127
Lies of P is an acceptable Bloodborne SS. It's probably even better than an actual BB2 given From's track record with sequels.
Anonymous No.718604883 >>718606708
>>718599150 (OP)
>finally play BB
>unstable 23-30 fps on a PS4 pro
>stuttering and shit
it's a shame because the setting and gameplay are better than every -souls game except for DeS
Anonymous No.718604892 >>718605882
>>718604664
Yes, and it's worse than those games.
Anonymous No.718604926
>>718604696
i dropped it half way through, boss design was good but the character movement and control was worse than wuchang or ai limit, plus the level design was incredibly linear
main killer for me was i got tired of the "le puppet le human le master!" schtick
Anonymous No.718605062 >>718605121 >>718605442 >>718634509
I dream of a WW1 set Bloodborne sequel.
Anonymous No.718605121
>>718605062
That's probably the only sequel I would be interested in. A unique new setting
Anonymous No.718605163
>>718600450
lol
Anonymous No.718605442
>>718605062
Too modern. The weapons would be too OP already unless you go the Attack on Titan direction
Anonymous No.718605882 >>718608108
>>718604892
Numbers don't seem to agree with you.
Anonymous No.718606014
>>718604147
Their favorite game is bobbing for dick at the local pool
Anonymous No.718606073 >>718606502 >>718606583
So is the armor in this game basically just fashion with no function?
Anonymous No.718606502 >>718608714
>>718606073
with some exceptions like certain boss fights, basically, yes
swapping out can help you if you're having trouble with say paarl and swap to a lightning resist set, but its just a skill issue more than anything
Anonymous No.718606583
>>718606073
The elemental resistances can help in certain boss fights but mostly yeah, just fashion
Anonymous No.718606708
>>718604883
get over it you big baby
Anonymous No.718608108 >>718608267
>>718605882
?
The better game, BB, is rated higher. What am I missing here?
Anonymous No.718608267
>>718608108
You know, I completely forgot this entire thing was BB vs DS2
Anonymous No.718608702 >>718609542 >>718610057
>>718599150 (OP)
>this finally gets emulated
>98% of the "NEVER EVER/Ultra-megakino-mastersoulpiece above all kinos, how did From do it?/if you haven't played this you should kill yoursef" threads immediately disappear
Will never stop being funny, it was always console war bait and I'm glad people can finally see it.
Anonymous No.718608714 >>718627676
>>718606502
Fuck this thing. I died, appeared in some prison, and this thing is road blocking me
Anonymous No.718608843
>>718599150 (OP)
a king without a port
Anonymous No.718608997
>>718599150 (OP)
For me, it's Dark Souls.
Anonymous No.718609542 >>718610474
>>718608702
you're literally in a thread where people are calling it that.
Anonymous No.718609558 >>718609724 >>718609778 >>718610047 >>718610207 >>718610465
>>718599150 (OP)
good morning sir
the bloodborne have best boss roster sir
Anonymous No.718609724
>>718609558
uhh, anon?
>>718600621
>>718601916
Anonymous No.718609778
>>718609558
>elden bin and trash souls 3 in front of BB
Anonymous No.718610047
>>718609558
>biggest chad
>gets the woman and the champagne
>unique from the others in both attitude and execution
yep, it's BB
Anonymous No.718610057
>>718608702
The emulator is barely functional lol
Anonymous No.718610207
>>718609558
The bait that kills entire boners
Anonymous No.718610284
This thread is a prime example of why this board needed IDs/IP counter
Anonymous No.718610465
>>718609558
DS3 isn't better than bloodborne
Anonymous No.718610474 >>718611030 >>718611202 >>718611209 >>718611215 >>718613186
>>718609542
He's being hyperbolic but he's not wrong, the amount and activity of BB threads has decreased ever since the initial PC hype died off.
As good as BB is it's not superior to most of Fromsoft's other games.
Anonymous No.718610568 >>718610667 >>718610742 >>718620081
As an ER only secondarychad why is this snoyslop so worshipped?
Only because it's a PS exclusive?
Anonymous No.718610593
>>718599150 (OP)
Not with those boring ass gimmicky bosses
Anonymous No.718610667
>>718610568
le gritty atmosphere xD
so le spooky
Anonymous No.718610742 >>718611316
>>718610568
Tightest game design in any Fromsoftware title. It's the polar opposite of Elden Ring. Less is more. Less build variety, less weapons, less open world slop, less bosses, less enemies, but as a result everything is tighter focused and better balanced.
Anonymous No.718610750
And what of good Dark Souls 2?
Anonymous No.718610820
I'll kill all kikes and indians and flood the servers of those LLM shit ass threads asking the same questions and producing the same baits all day with curry liquid poop.
Anonymous No.718611030 >>718613091
>>718610474
The game is ten years old. I mean, I see daily threads praising the game still. Most games made this year get less threads than BB
Anonymous No.718611202 >>718611324 >>718611461
>>718610474
It kinda suffers from lack of actual replayability like Sekiro
Anonymous No.718611209 >>718613091
>>718610474
>As good as BB is it's not superior to most of Fromsoft's other games.
It's superior to their entire catalogue. The other games are so heavily flawed, especially the namco games, that tend to be these sprawling unfinished messes. BB and Sekiro are the only tight games they have.
Anonymous No.718611215 >>718613091
>>718610474
It's a decade old. No shit there isn't a lot thread traffic for it.
Anonymous No.718611316 >>718611494 >>718611559 >>718611953 >>718619276 >>718620186
>>718610742
>linear = good
sounds like snoy coping because it's the only exclusive anyone but snoyfags want to play
Anonymous No.718611324 >>718611424
>>718611202
Worth having far more fun gameplay. Roll slop and shield slop gets old fast, especially when it feels the same across all of their games. Bloodborne being fast and aggresive is pure action kino.
Anonymous No.718611424 >>718611525 >>718611585
>>718611324
>Bloodborne being fast and aggresive is pure action kino.
That would be true if the bosses roster wasn't so utterly pathetic and lazy
Anonymous No.718611461 >>718613186
>>718611202
I didn't finish DS2 because the gameplay was so shitty and never bothered with DS3 after. I still play Sekiro/BB/Demon's once a year and usually Elden Ring
Anonymous No.718611494
>>718611316
Bloodborne is the hallmark of Soulslike level design. It's peak. Nothing is wasted. Openworldsloppers could never understand
Anonymous No.718611525 >>718611881
>>718611424
The bosses are better than all the games that came before it and Elden Ring. What do you want?
Anonymous No.718611559
>>718611316
It's not linear tho
Anonymous No.718611585 >>718611881
>>718611424
Ludwig is the best boss in any of their games besides Isshin in Sekiro.
Anonymous No.718611605
>>718599150 (OP)
Overrated Snoy shovelware
The fact Snoy doesn't give a single fuck about releasing a remaster on PS5 or PC is pretty telling
Anonymous No.718611881 >>718612010 >>718612219
>>718611525
>>718611585
Bosses barely fight back in this game and half, if not more of the roster is lame gimmicky garbage
It's the only Souls game that desperately needs its DLC to not have a pitiful roster
I remember back in 2015 people being confused about the lack of actual challenging bosses
A shame considering the aggressive gameplay
Anonymous No.718611953
>>718611316
>linear
?
The game opens up at Vicar
>Forbidden Woods to Forbidden Grave to Byrgenwerth or Isofeka's Clinic
>Hemwick to Witch's Abode
>Cainhurst
>Lower Yharnam and Darkbeast and unlocks back to Cathderal Ward
>Gaol
>DLC
Anonymous No.718612010 >>718613186
>>718611881
Bosses fight back even less in the older games and they've become a total shitshow in ER
Anonymous No.718612219 >>718613215 >>718613547
>>718611881
There are literally no good bosses in Demon's and Dark 1 even with AotA, whicvh gets mogged by average bosses like Logarius and Gasciogne
Anonymous No.718612341 >>718612490
>>718603110
Lies of P is already the sequel From cannot hope to top.
Anonymous No.718612490 >>718612602
>>718612341
Lies of piss is slop
Anonymous No.718612515
Anonymous No.718612602
>>718612490
Miyazaki doesn't want a Bloodborne 2 while Sony does.
Anonymous No.718613091 >>718613621 >>718615919 >>718616194
>>718611030
>>718611215
Sure but it still had a lot more traffic and discussion pre-ShadPS4 which only came out a couple of months ago.
>>718611209
Rather than tightness I'd call it a lack of scale. As good as BB is on a first playthrough you quickly realize that there isn't really much of an incentive to replay it.
If upgrade materials weren't so artificially scarce you could easily experience nearly everything the game has to offer in a single playthrough.
BB also has aspects that feel unfinished, it's just mostly concentrated in the Chalice dungeons.
Anonymous No.718613186
>>718610474
Even miyzaki himself says it's one of the best
>>718612010
Elden ring has it's problems but the bosses are good that's not what's bad about it
>>718611461
Ds3 is worth it for the dlc
Anonymous No.718613215 >>718613709 >>718613754 >>718613953
>>718612219
What the fuck are you even talking about DS1 has arguably the best final boss in all of From games: Gwyn who is a simple but effective way to end the entire playthrougjh, there's also
Ornstein and Smough
Kalameet
Artorias
Four Kings (on later NGs)
Manus

I've come to realize most people don't actually know what a good game boss design even looks like.
Anonymous No.718613547 >>718613798
>>718612219
Logarius and Gascoigne are 2 of BB's best bosses
Anonymous No.718613621 >>718613731 >>718615347
>>718613091
>there isn't really much of an incentive to replay it
Replayability isn't some universal metric and forever games aren't above all the rest just by the virtue of being forever game.
I mean, wtf.
Anonymous No.718613673 >>718614176
Why did Bloodborne attract so many troons?
I don't get it...
Anonymous No.718613709 >>718613871
>>718613215
Ornstein and Smough are shit. I'm not even sure what I'm reading here. Artorias and Manus are generic Penetrator and Flamerlurker bosses. did you even fucking play Demon's? Holy shit lol.
>Four Kings
Wide understood to be a dogshit boss, I don't even know what you're getting at here.
Anonymous No.718613731
>>718613621
Not that anon but replayability is a factor that most games neglect, especially ones that have incorporated NG+ as a game mechanic.
Anonymous No.718613754 >>718614047
>>718613215
Gwyn is probably the easiest final boss in souls ds1 has easy bosses but very good designs
Anonymous No.718613798
>>718613547
and naturally they eclipse everything from DS1/2/DES
Anonymous No.718613871 >>718614034
>>718613709
You did not play Four Kings in NG+2. It's an entirely different kind of boss. The others are well-crafted enough to warrant them as good boss status.
>Artorias and Manus are Penetrator and Flamelurker
You did not play Demon Souls
Anonymous No.718613953 >>718614047
>>718613215
>Gwyn
stopped reading there. Gherman is literally fixed Gwyn that you can still parry and he doesn't flop over and die to a riposte, and he has more moves, phases, etc, and is more relevant to the player experience since you actually talk to him and get some insight into who he is.
Anonymous No.718614034 >>718614149
>>718613871
No, I don't tend to play shitty games over and over.
>didn't play demon's
post plat date. here's mine lol
Anonymous No.718614047 >>718614271 >>718615124
>>718613754
Yes I agree they're easy once figured out but Gwyn is the parry-check boss which is fitting to put in as a final guy. It's like putting Monsoon as a final boss for Reveangeance.

>>718613953
Gherman being Gwyn+ doesn't make Gwyn not a good final boss for Dark Souls or a staple for the Souls series moving forward.
Anonymous No.718614149 >>718614660
>>718614034
Then why the fuck are you saying Artorias and Manus are simply "generic" copies Penetrator and Flamerlurker, that is an obvious hyperbolic lie.
Anonymous No.718614176
>>718613673
>no replies
LOL
troonbornes where you at?
Anonymous No.718614271 >>718614487 >>718614606 >>718615378
>>718614047
The person I replied to said it was:
>arguably the best final boss in all of From games
He's not. He's worse than Gherman, Isshin, and arguably worse than Allant. i haven't played DS3, but he might be worse than Soul of Cinder too, I don't know.
Anonymous No.718614487 >>718614926
>>718614271
I'm saying that he ARGUABLY is because he is THAT archetype and encapsulates your entire playthrough, both diegetically and exegetically for a Souls game. It doesn't matter if he's piss easy once you learn all what he can do or what you can do, that's not the point.
Anonymous No.718614606 >>718614742
>>718614271
>Allant
>a flopping fish
You fucking retards think just because the lore is good, it makes up for a shitty fucking boss. The lore of Bloodborne is the stronget we've had in the entire series.
Anonymous No.718614660 >>718615103
>>718614149
Fight Manus than Flamelurker. They're clearly the same skeleton with a ton of the same moves and are just big apes jumping around the arena. yes, artorias is just anime'd up penetrator which is more of a hyperbole
Anonymous No.718614742 >>718615029
>>718614606
Flase Allant, retardbro. I expect you'd figure that out
Anonymous No.718614926 >>718615103
>>718614487
the argument is bad, since the boss is functionally worse, falls apart under scrutiny, and still isn't any more diegetically and exegetically than gherman or Isshin
Anonymous No.718615029
>>718614742
ESL
And False King Allant isn't the final boss. You could fight Maiden Astrea or Dragon God for the final boss. You'd know that if you played the game.
Anonymous No.718615103 >>718615750
>>718614660
What is the Silver Pendant mechanic of Flamelurker? He doesn't have one because he isn't Manus. He doesn't even combo like Manus, what the fuck is this comparison, you are literally just looking at both models and because they are vaguely similar so you're calling them the same boss.

>>718614926
The entire Souls series is centered around Gwyn, he is diegetically the epitome of the Souls series and it is fitting that he is a parry-check. You can dial that up or dial that down, but that's Gwyn.
Anonymous No.718615124 >>718615379
>>718614047
I don't think you get how easy ds1 and des bosses were, they were easier than some normal enemies in the other games, only people who played those as their first souls find them hard and ds1 is a better example of that since some normal enemies in des are harder than some of the bosses in ds1 and the final boss on des is harder and it had more gimmicky fights as well.
Anonymous No.718615347
>>718613621
A game that lacks replayability is a game that lacks depth. BB cut out nearly all mechanics that didn't fit the r1-roll playstyle, sadly the core gameplay didn't evolve enough to justify those cuts.
Ultimately it's still just a slightly faster DaS/DeS but with no build variety.
The best you get is a handful of spells, most of which are attained near the end, which require you to build around a stat that is pretty much useless otherwise.
Anonymous No.718615378
>>718614271
He's not worse than souls of cinder since souls of cinder is a nod to gwyn but gael and friede are pretty good
Anonymous No.718615379 >>718618281
>>718615124
And I'm already implying or even nakedly said that the challenge or how bullshit a boss is only a factor on what makes a good game boss. A boss being "easy" has so many layers on whether it's the "bad" kind of easy or the "good" kind. DS1 has both.
Anonymous No.718615750 >>718616168
>>718615103
>The entire Souls series is centered around Gwyn, he is diegetically the epitome of the Souls series and it is fitting that he is a parry-check. You can dial that up or dial that down, but that's Gwyn.
again, the design fails under scrutiny. It's fine that the design failed. later designs did not fail and succeeded where Dark souls 1 failed. the events of Sekiro are heavily tied to isshin and bloodborne to gherman. you feel more of a meaningful connection to these characters as you actually interact with them in some way and their own journeys better parallel the player instead of being distant unapproachable demigods that are just plopped in last second.
Anonymous No.718615919 >>718618175 >>718618757
>>718613091
>Rather than tightness I'd call it a lack of scale. As good as BB is on a first playthrough you quickly realize that there isn't really much of an incentive to replay it.
This is how I felt about Dark Souls 1/2, but mostly due to so many quality drops and areas where you're like, "Oh, this turd of an area." The quality is too low to warrant a replay in my opinion, because the games are these big sloppy rushed messes where tons of unfinished content was included.
Anonymous No.718616143 >>718617507
>>718599150 (OP)
When i played it in 2015 i liked it, but now its not even good.
A lot of action games came out and surpassed it by a lot.
Lies of P demolishes it for example, better bosses, better story, better character progression, better combat mechanics and overall just a much more fun game to play.
Nioh 2 craps on it as well.

Bloodborne has atrocious rpg elements, generic story, mediocre bosses and too many halfbaked elements and ideas like the rally mechanic which is interesting in concept but was implemented very poorly.
The DLC that everyone raves about has only 2 good bosses in total, with 2 mediocre bosses and 1 meme trash boss, the areas are bloated and filled with recycled encounters like reusing the cainhurst enemies and bloodstarved beast.

Its one of the most overrated games ever made, people only like it for its speical gothic coat of paint, but at the end of the day its still a souls game, the same repetitive ideas.

Also i think most people are crazy about it because a lot of console casuals played it first, it was their first souls game, demon's souls was niche and not many people played it, so bloodborne was the first one to actually become popular, even more than dark souls actually.
Anonymous No.718616168 >>718616468
>>718615750
It is the same way that Artorias is a good boss fight. Exegetically, what does he teach you? He teaches you dodge-roll timings and his triple combo and slam adequately but not severely punishes you for incorrectly timing it or for always putting your shield up in fights (especially his slam which can go through shields if done in an angle) AND aggression into keeping yourself close to the boss (which Bloodborne bases its entire fights of from) THAT is a good boss fight. Simple and effective is what makes DS1 boss fights really good in hindsight but then there are other bosses that are just straight up boring or just mechanically dull as well.
Anonymous No.718616194
>>718613091
>Sure but it still had a lot more traffic and discussion pre-ShadPS4 which only came out a couple of months ago.
Still has daily threads, so I assume you have some sort of data or something to support this claim
Anonymous No.718616350 >>718616552
>>718599150 (OP)
Easiest souls of them all. I don't know why I listened to the opinion of snoys, of course it was their first souls game ever played
Anonymous No.718616468 >>718616610
>>718616168
Artorias is a better fight mechanically and theatrically than Gwyn but still worse than Gehrman.
Anonymous No.718616552 >>718616695
>>718616350
you mean Demon's Souls? since that was snoys first and the easiest one (except arguably ds1)
Anonymous No.718616610 >>718617917
>>718616468
Arguably, that was in the context of final boss fights but I edge it out for Gwyn since he's literally the lynchpin of the entire story of Dark Souls.
Anonymous No.718616695 >>718616873
>>718616552
demon's souls was niche and barely anyone played it
Anonymous No.718616773
>>718600313
WITCHERCHAD I KNEEL
Anonymous No.718616873 >>718617036
>>718616695
?
It sold like 2m units and won GameSpot GOTY. It did so well like 50k PC nigger begged and begged for DS1
Anonymous No.718617036 >>718617590
>>718616873
and compared to BB?
Anonymous No.718617058 >>718617449
Just play Lies of P, that's already Bloodborne but better or is it just because it isn't made by FromSoft that you don't give it its due.
Anonymous No.718617449
>>718617058
I don't like playing as twinks
Anonymous No.718617507
>>718616143
I would go as far as to say that Bloodborne has less replay value than even DeS or DS1. It's like the second last Souls game where you just one and done it EXCEPT for Chalice Dungeons, which is a gimmick that isn't really tied to the game proper. The least replayable being Sekiro.
Anonymous No.718617590 >>718617957
>>718617036
BB sold more. Demon's Souls isn't a niche title though, that's pure fucking hyperbole. It just isn't the enormous blockbuster the other games were.
Anonymous No.718617828 >>718617883
>>718599150 (OP)
By far best-in-the franchise. Still generates more conversation today than any of the other games which says it all.
Anonymous No.718617883 >>718617998
>>718617828
DS1 still gets discussion in this very board.
Anonymous No.718617917
>>718616610
In the context of final boss fight, those other fights are better for reasons already mentioned and just being more satisfying fights. Outside that context, they're still better, because they're more satisfying fights.
Anonymous No.718617957 >>718618085 >>718618347
>>718617590
Dude what the fuck are you talking about, normalfags were not importing Demon Souls back in the day. It's niche like it or not and Bloodborne is mainstream
Anonymous No.718617998 >>718619830
>>718617883
All of them do but none as much as BB however, except arguably DS2
Anonymous No.718618085 >>718618779
>>718617957
>Importing
I bought it at GameStop. The fuck you on?
Anonymous No.718618175 >>718618757 >>718619156 >>718620479
>>718615919
Can't speak for DaS2 but DaS1 only had Demon Ruins that was blatantly unfinished.
DaS1 was also significantly more ambitious in terms of level & world design than BB. Central Yharnam is brilliant but the level design drops off hard after that with a good chunk of the levels being a straight path to the boss with a couple of short side routes here and there. They tried replicating the elevator moment in DaS with the gate at the clinic but they completely missed what made the elevator special in the first place.
Speaking of which, Areas like Iosefka's Clinic, Byrgenwerth & Upper Cathedral Ward also feel more like placeholders that never got expanded upon rather than actual areas.
Anonymous No.718618281
>>718615379
I just wanted to say that but like i said ds1 has amazing boss designs i think the kalameet is probably my favorite dragon fight in souls and best dragon design as well, i think for gwyn how easy he was does take away from it but his ost carries him to be people's favorite, i don't mind how hard a main boss or how bullshit it is i think they should be a challenge more than normal annoying enemies or mini bosses, it's exhilarating to beat hard bosses, elden ring got this right unironically but their open world shit and dungeons were boring as fuck i think the level design in ds1 is superior than most of the other games even though it's incomplete.
Anonymous No.718618347 >>718618779
>>718617957
>Importing Demon's
It was released in America, lmfao, what in the FUCK. It became so popular that Namco re-released it in Euroland. Only on this shit hole would a multimillion selling debut be considered some sort of hidden gem for the sake of some total faggot's fragile ego
Anonymous No.718618757
>>718615919
Ds2 is lame as fuck lmao had good pvp though
>>718618175
Iosfka clinic and upper cathedral ward were cool as fuck
Anonymous No.718618779 >>718619257
>>718618085
>>718618347
You really trying to make me believe DeS is more popular than Bloodborne?
People importing Demons was a thing because Sony didn't believe it would succeed in the Western market.
Anonymous No.718619156 >>718621828
>>718618175
Demon Ruins, Lost Izalith, Valley of the Drakes, and shit like Ash Lake. Those are just the blatantly unfinished levels. BB just doesn't have levels of such low quality, which is a real merit to replays since there are no total groaners.
DS1 also has a ton of just sub-mediocre levels, like Catacombs and Tomb, which feel empty due to having like 3 enemies stretched across a huge portion of the game, which is also a straight shot to the boss. BB has a few of these, like Nightmare Frontier, but there are less. In fact, the road to all the Lords is a mostly straight line. There are also amazingly bad levels, like Crystal Caves, which is without a doubt the worst level they've ever made.
Anonymous No.718619257 >>718619874
>>718618779
No, I'm not you retarded faggot. Demon's Souls was a popular game, the first souls game for literally millions of people, and the easiest except arguably Dark Souls 1
Anonymous No.718619276
>>718611316
It's more quality
Anonymous No.718619641
>>718600313
>Shitcher 3
One of the least deserving goty winners ever.
Anonymous No.718619801
>>718603203
The snoys are living in your head rent-free.
Anonymous No.718619830 >>718620057
>>718617998
Elden Ring is vastly more discussed and will continue to be discussed for decades, this is not debatable
Anonymous No.718619874 >>718620274 >>718620467
>>718619257
I'm sorry anon but there are more people that played and beat BB than there are people who played Demon's. Essentially making it snoys first souls
Anonymous No.718619975
>>718603110
Yeah as much as I love Bloodborne I cant keep replaying it without craving more. It must have been good to be a DeS fan and see DaS come out two years later.
Anonymous No.718620057 >>718620227
>>718619830
>Look on catalogue
>>>718617596
>1 thread, made half an hour ago
>Page 10
kek
Anonymous No.718620081
>>718610568
No, but that is the reason it gets so much hate on /v/, they never got over the goldface memes. Literally mindbroken.
Anonymous No.718620186
>>718611316
>everything I don't like is snoys
Meds.
Anonymous No.718620227 >>718620419
>>718620057
Thanks, it's back to page 1 now :-)
Anonymous No.718620274
>>718619874
BB sold a few million copies at release, which is about what Demon's Sold. Over 10 years, the sales grew to represent the Souls fanbase as it grew over the next 10 years. Still, it's harder than DS1/DES
Anonymous No.718620419
>>718620227
Bumping it to prove a point doesn't matter when this has hundreds of replies in twice the time vs 3 replies.
Anonymous No.718620442 >>718620539
>>718599150 (OP)
its unplayable unfortunately
the frame rate makes me physically ill
Anonymous No.718620467
>>718619874
I'm sorry you never got to experience Bloodborne kino on your third world poorfag platform, anon.
Anonymous No.718620479 >>718621123 >>718625834 >>718627639
>>718618175
Byrgenwerth should have been bigger but if you consider the Lecture Building apart of it then that also expands the size. And the LB is in the Nightmare so they fucked up somehow and it got transported there. What bugs me more is the trapdoor leading to the Chalice Dungeons inside Byrgenwerth. Now if they wanted to they could have made them apart of the actual game rather than shithole places you teleport to. But they didnt do it like that.

Upper Cathedral Ward is hidden or off-limits to everyone but The Choir and its where they commune with Ebrietas and do inhumane shit on orphans. I think it should have been bigger but its current size is fine if you consider it entirely apart of the Cathedral Ward as a whole. Now one area that feels underdeveloped IMO is Old Yharnam. That place should be just as big as Central Yharnam and maybe have more church areas to it.
Anonymous No.718620539
>>718620442
See a doctor. If a low framerate makes you feel sick, you have a serious medical condition beyond being a genetic dead who gets seasick playing a game
Anonymous No.718620853 >>718620991 >>718626908
Wu chang and lords of the fallen are better souls games than real souls games. I recently got the elden ring dlc and I don't even want to play it because the movement is so slow and the graphics are shit
Anonymous No.718620991
>>718620853
I couldn't stand the first one. How is the new Lord's of Fallen?
Anonymous No.718621123 >>718621562
>>718620479
>underdeveloped IMO is Old Yharnam
I didn't feel this way at all since it connects to like Darkbeast and I ended up there by going through the jumping puzzle in upper Cathedral Ward making it a great little trip.
Anonymous No.718621562 >>718621738
>>718621123
Darkbeast is from Yahargul which is an entirely different town thats controlled by the School of Mensis. It was likely recently built or is the newest addition to the whole Yharnam city state area since the SOM is a radically split sect of the Church.
Anonymous No.718621738 >>718621938
>>718621562
I'm talking about the traversal. It does not feel underdeveloped when you're exploring it.
Anonymous No.718621828 >>718622353
>>718619156
Valley of the Drakes is a transitional area that connects Blighttown, New Londo, Darkroot Basin and Firelink Shrine. The fact that it even exists is a testament to all the effort Fromsoft put into designing the world of DaS.
BB doesn't have an equivalent because it's map layout is very basic compared to DaS. Basically all areas are directly connected to Cathedral ward and Cathedral ward alone. The few areas that do have connecting paths (Yahar'gul - Old Yharnam, Forbidden Woods - Iosefka's Clinic) rarely get utilized because they aren't particularly useful. The fact that BB lets you warp from the start despite the fact that BB is far better built for endless exploring shows how little they expected the people to care about the overall world design.
Anonymous No.718621938 >>718622528
>>718621738
I think it connects well I just wish it was all a bit bigger. Central Yharnam and the Cathedral Ward feel like the perfect size for levels. The Forbidden Woods on the other hand feels too big, well the latter part anyways and also the Nightmare Frontier but to me but thats just because its a poison shithole.
Anonymous No.718622353 >>718625219
>>718621828
>BB doesn't have an equivalent because it's map layout is very basic compared to DaS. Basically all areas are directly connected to Cathedral ward and Cathedral ward alone.
This is simply not true and you even included your own example but tried to back off it even though you more or less have to tackle that area if you want to access Isofeka. Old Yharnam is also transitional area if you enter through Upper Cathedral, giving you a tour of parts of Upper Cathedral, and Yhargul, with two bosses. In DS1, all places are connected to Firelink, because they are in a roundabout way. Regardless, there are no turds, which is the point and the reason I don't replay DS1, because there are so many bad levels.
I will give you the teleporting thing though.
Anonymous No.718622450 >>718622986
>>718599150 (OP)
>make an amazing soulslike with BB
>make an incredible DLC for it
>dp nothing with it for a decade

>make a god tier game with Sekiro
>no sequel, no DLC, just an anime adaptation 7 years later

>make Demon Souls multiple times, all worh DLC, including Dark Souls 4: Elden Ring with a DLC 2 years later and an asset recycling spin off this year
Anonymous No.718622528
>>718621938
My only real gripe is yeah, the woods are probably a little too big and Byrgenwerth is a little too small.
Anonymous No.718622986 >>718623384 >>718623610 >>718623896 >>718624207
>>718622450
You will eternally seethe about the fact that Troonborne and Shitkiro failed and flopped
Elden Ring is the real Magnum Opus, the absolute pinnacle of the Souls formula, hence why it already got a spinoff game
Anonymous No.718623384
>>718622986
Xir needs to be locked up in the trooney bin
Anonymous No.718623570
Bloodborne sisters....
Anonymous No.718623610 >>718623659 >>718623764 >>718625263 >>718631435
>>718622986
>Troonborne
The final boss in Elden Ring is literally a genderbending tranny chosen by God.
Anonymous No.718623659 >>718623905 >>718624567
>>718623610
Yeah and you kill it
Anonymous No.718623764 >>718625263
>>718623610
OH MY SCIENCE
Anonymous No.718623896
>>718622986
Simply based
Anonymous No.718623905
>>718623659
Not before you kiss it and make out with it.
Anonymous No.718624035 >>718624171 >>718627318
>>718602224
Anyone who thinks ds2 is shit doesnt like souls. They are just YouTube watching bandwagoners for the franchise
Anonymous No.718624171
>>718624035
Not that anon but DS2 is a solid video game but it stands out as a Souls game in a bad way. It's hampered by being a Souls game is what I'm trying to say.
Anonymous No.718624207 >>718624282
>>718622986
>failed and flopped
Explain to me why should I care?
I play games because they're fun, I don't care how big a bonus the CEO gives himself.
Do you own stock in Fromsoft? If you don't, I don't see why you'd care.
Anonymous No.718624282
>>718624207
Now read carefully the post I was replying to, fucktard
Anonymous No.718624567 >>718624730 >>718629669 >>718631435
>>718623659
>Autistic maidenless mute goes on a journey to marry a troon and is attacked on sight by said troon, so he's forced to kill her in an incelic freakout. He then goes off to meet the troon's trap son and the tarnished is cucked by a big black man, and again spergs out and murders them. He is ultimately forced to marry a doll made of rope with no pussy who goes off into space without him.
Anonymous No.718624730 >>718624928 >>718625263 >>718631936
>>718624567
Nice headcanon
Doesn't change the fact that Troons all around the world are furiously gooning over Bloodborne
This was and still is memed a lot on /v/
Anonymous No.718624818 >>718625001 >>718625052 >>718625996
>sold less than a million copies
>supposed to save the PS4
Anonymous No.718624928 >>718625158
>>718624730
?
It's literally what happens. You go off to become Elden Lord and presumably consort to marry a troon, she wants nothing to do with the PC, so you kill her, and then you go off to meet the trap and the same thing happens, and on the side you're talking to a literal doll. Explain the headcanon.
Anonymous No.718625001
>>718624818
Not true, btw.
Anonymous No.718625052 >>718625369
>>718624818
>7.4m is under 1m
?
Anonymous No.718625158 >>718625767
>>718624928
Please do keep on ignoring how your favourite game has been quite literally appropriated by troons
Anonymous No.718625219
>>718622353
My point is that the few places where areas interconnect only do so after you cleared the areas and have little reason to revisit them.
The Paarl "shortcut" to Old Yharnam is a perfect example of what I mean. In order to get to it you need to unlock Hypogean Gaol first but in order to unlock Hypogean Gaol you need to complete Old Yharnam making the shortcut completely useless. Also you can't enter Old Yharnam through upper cathedral ward so I have no clue what you're talking about there.
The shortcut at Iosefka's is also equally useless, by the time you reach it there's no reason to revisit Central Yharnam as you already cleared it ages ago and the shortcut doesn't connect to anything else.
As for DaS, there are tons of areas that are connected to multiple areas in a meaningful way. For example Firelink connects to Undead Parish which itself is also connected to 3 other areas. The same also applies between Firelink and Valley of the Drakes. Now compare that to BB where your options are either to push forward or to go back to Cathedral and pick another path.
Anonymous No.718625263 >>718625357 >>718625554
>>718624730
>>718623764
>>718623610
Just by reading these three and nothing else in the thread I just feel like I must ask if these people are just making shit up. I mean, they have to be? I don't think it's really possible to extract that kind of idea (transism) from what goes on in the game.

Truly, I don't think people even understand what they're saying when they come up with bullshit like that. The game is about a Hunter who seeks paleblood and fights crazed beasts and aliums in an effort to find knowledge. It's just that simple. There's no "allegories" or anything else, at best you could maybe extrapolate that the Hunter is in over their head and doesn't even know what they are doing because the gods/etc are toying with them or manipulating them against (or unbeknownst to) their will.

I can make shit up too and say it's correct. Halo 3 is actually about Donny Trump saving America. Must be true because I said so. These people are fucking retards.
Anonymous No.718625357 >>718625561
>>718625263
gahdamn
murican can't go one sentence without mentioning the word drumpf
Anonymous No.718625369 >>718625459 >>718625835 >>718626210
>>718625052
Those are LITERALLY the hard copies they sold to warehouses and stores, they never sold any more
Anonymous No.718625459 >>718625835
>>718625369
addressing the 2 million number, the 7 million number is fake
Anonymous No.718625554 >>718628510 >>718638016
>>718625263
I'm not making anything up, Elden Ring has an actual, unironic transgender final boss. The anti-BB schizos have to procure their shitposting material externally because BB has no equivalent tranny subtext like ER has and they know it.
Anonymous No.718625561 >>718625758
>>718625357
Gonna cry? It's just an example I came up with. Here, I'll come up with another one if you're so assblasted about it. Half Life 1 is actually about a kid sleeping in science class and imaging what CUHRAYZEE shit would happen at a "secret base". Must be true cause I imagined it so.
Anonymous No.718625593
>>718600313
cant imagine thinking bloodborne is boring while the witcher isnt. i like both games, but the witcher has way more soap opera drama, yapping and "movie game" shit than bloodborne, which is a straight up action game that has you constantly watching ur back
Anonymous No.718625685
>>718603110
pvefags eternally BTFO
Anonymous No.718625758
>>718625561
Cool, but Marika/Radagon is still a genderbending tranny allegory.
Anonymous No.718625767 >>718625836
>>718625158
Your favorite game is a journey to get rejected by troons. presumably, this mimics your life
Anonymous No.718625834
>>718620479
I would be more open to consider LB as a lost section of Byrgenwerth if you could actually physically tell it was missing. The trapdoor directly connecting to the Chalices would've been great too. Hell I'd be happy with just the tombstones too.

Old Yharnam could've been bigger but I don't think it was poorly utilized at least. Hemick is a different story though, I often forgot that place even existed until I realized that I couldn't equip any Caryll runes.
Anonymous No.718625835
>>718625459
>>718625369
Proof? The game still sells.
Anonymous No.718625836 >>718625913
>>718625767
YWNBAW
Anonymous No.718625913
>>718625836
you will never fuck a woman, trooner
Anonymous No.718625996
>>718624818
>>sold less than a million copies
Anonymous No.718626210
>>718625369
This. minecraft only sold 2m too. the other 88m are just copies in warehouses
Anonymous No.718626780 >>718626829
It's been 15 years... why are you still salty about never ever being able to play Bloodborne?
Anonymous No.718626829
>>718626780
fuck you, dont scare me like that
its only been 10 years
Anonymous No.718626908 >>718627047
>>718620853
Isn't lords of the fallen slow and shitty?
Anonymous No.718627047
>>718626908
the very first one was
the 2nd is pretty good, on par with the souls game in terms of level design. repetitive enemies and very few bosses, but I really enjoyed it.
Anonymous No.718627318
>>718624035
I wouldn't say it's shit but it's the worst one people who like it are contrarians
Anonymous No.718627639 >>718639710
>>718620479
The dungeons were a waste of time i think they should've used that time for more areas and new stuff or a dlc but bloodborne has no underdeveloped areas just short ones, that goes for elden ring open world and dungeons as well, it sucks that the older games had incomplete areas and when they had the budget and time to do so they just wasted it on dungeons
Anonymous No.718627676
>>718608714
You were grabbed by the bag guy?
Anonymous No.718628510 >>718628968
>>718625554
Just look up Rebis, not gonna waste my time explaining why you're wrong
Anonymous No.718628968 >>718631435
>>718628510
>tranny occultism
Still a troon, also the dlc promotes pederasty.
Anonymous No.718629669
>>718624567
Most /v/ journey in souls
Anonymous No.718629853 >>718630227
>>718599150 (OP)
King of a dead console maybe, this gets dusted by every other fromsoft title from the past 15 years, even nightreign and scholar takes a massive dump on this shit.
Anonymous No.718629963 >>718636646
>>718600450
>>718600621
I only played SotFS. How different is it from the original? Is there any chance I might like base DS2 when I didn't like Scholar?
Anonymous No.718630227
>>718629853
PC vegans say the darndest things.
Anonymous No.718631435 >>718633187
>>718623610
>>718624567
>>718628968
Trannyism is okay in fiction when it's not virtue signaling.
Anonymous No.718631936
>>718624730
What's specifically troon about bloodborne? There's gayer stuff in ds1 and eldenring
Anonymous No.718633187 >>718634078
>>718631435
It's never ok.
Anonymous No.718634078
>>718633187
It is just like violence or sex you cringelord
Anonymous No.718634509
>>718605062
Kino………
Anonymous No.718636646
>>718629963
>I'm a secondary with shit taste, spoonfeed me
Finely distilled fromsoftware community kino right there
Anonymous No.718637230
>>718599150 (OP)
KING OF TROONS
Anonymous No.718637631
>>718604275
A year exclusivity for a paid fromsoft pvp game is more than enough to kill it before it can get any life, console exclusivity is more than enough to kill multiplayer games.
Anonymous No.718637947
>>718599150 (OP)
Lies of P was better.
Anonymous No.718638016
>>718625554
Elden Beast is transgender? Damn?
Anonymous No.718638359
>>718600621
Elden Ring worse than Demon's Souls
Anonymous No.718638472
Tranny magnet the game
Anonymous No.718638504 >>718643474
>>718599150 (OP)
I'm playing it right now on PS4/PS5 for the first time. Did I make a mistake with a threaded cane as a weapon? it has really cool weapon animations but obviously it's damage output is not great, but the whip is a pretty fun crowd control weapon.
I know this is subjective question, but what sort of build and weapon in your minds brings out the most diverse aspects of Bloodborne's combat? i want to feel like I'm playing something that it represents everything that is wholly unique or representative of Bloodborne's core combat experience that separates it from other From Software games.

I just chose milquetoast as an origin because I couldn't decide on a build and wanted to feel out what I like when I come across weapons.
Anonymous No.718639710 >>718641230
>>718627639
I wish more Nightmare areas were added. As it stands you have:
>The Hunters Dream which remains safe until the very end and you can end it there without fighting Gehrman or MP
>Nightmare Frontier which is an ugly, poison hellhole where you fight Amygdala
>Nightmare of Mensis which is a decent length but was also recently created from the Mensis Rituals
>Hunters Nightmare which is also somewhat more β€œrecent” since Kos created it
We needed one or two more areas filled with more eldritch cosmic horrors and another Great One.
Anonymous No.718641230
>>718639710
I honestly like all bloodborne areas there's two things i don't like about it which is gemstones and dungeons, that's about it. maybe the pvp as well.
Anonymous No.718641795
>>718603110
omg what were they thinking
Anonymous No.718643474
>>718638504
Fuck it I'll just experiment with the weapons if no one can give me an answer. It was a subjective question after all. I just hope I can sit on these starting origin character spec points for a while so I can try out everything and then decide what build I'm gonna do later on. One of the things I hate about From Software games is how you sometimes get put into the scenario of where you wasted a point. In which respec is not possible. That shit is awful and I hate it.