Thread 718624630

What went so fucking right?

>>718624630 (OP)
normies liked it who's only experiece of science fiction is films like starship troopers or Red Planet.
It's actually horribly generic.

Good gameplay
Player centric (Even if the players are whiny little bitches about the game being balanced to stop it from getting boring)
Consistent content additions that keep the game populated and gives players something to work towards
A simple but fun gameplay loop

Great horde shooter.

Why is the current MO two fucking weeks long

>>718624630 (OP)
in-house game engine?

>>718624902
>t. no friends

Is this shit on xbox yet so I can play with my friend?

>>718624630 (OP)
nothing
it was better at launch but the dung brain normies couldnt handle needing to ask someone to reload their recoil rifle

>>718625574
For the console players so they can feel like they're participating
(More likely just cause the devs wanted a break)

>>718625650
26th, comes with that ODST warbond too. So next Tuesday.

>>718625601
It's not inhouse
It's Stingray Autodesk and it's outdated and awful.

>>718625707
I'll let him know if he's not already on top of it. BF6 beta was a big fucking let down so we're falling back on this.

Me and my friends still never got back into it after the PSN account debacle on Steam (that and the crashes during extraction).
Kind of just moved on. It was fun, despite its issues though.

>>718624630 (OP)
chucking huge ordinance strikes at deserving enemies is just really fun

i can't decide which game is more reddit: deep rock galactic or this shit

>>718626409
I'd say DRG because this game gives reddit an existential crisis about the "message" and "media literacy"

>>718625574
majority of the team is still working on bugfixing as they said they were going to do, they're also polishing up the ODST gear since they dont want the xbox launch to be a shitshow.

>>718626409
How is Helldivers or DRG reddit

>>718624630 (OP)
>Dude let's throw Terminator, Starship Troopers, ODST, and a dash of MGS in a blender!
It just works

>>718624630 (OP)
I want the ODST stuff but then I realized how I can't really play this solo and everyone who used to play this game doesn't want to play this shit anymore. I'm not playing Randoms who ban everyone that doesn't have meta gear. You know what fuck this game.

>>718624630 (OP)
it's simply a good and fun game

>>718627237
the only reason people left is because every game became 500kg/380 snooze fest after every weapon got buffed for 10x the damage

>>718627335
See this shit. This shit right here.
At launch that shit RR shot to the body wouldnt 1 shot a bile and your trash ass would rightfully die.

>>718624630 (OP)
I can tell you they didn't do any of their fucking file compression right.
This game has zero business being north of 50 gigs let alone 100
It's the only reason I don't go back to it often while I can leave something like DRG installed easily.
Also I'm going to be real the reveal for ODST crossover really didn't wow me. The equipment won't stand out in the current arsenal and you're just paying for the privilege of some guns you recognize from Halo

>>718624630 (OP)
Visceral, cool guns. >500h played and i still smile when i use my beloved autocannon.

>>718624630 (OP)
Accidently good, any time the developers do something with intent they ruin it

>>718627494
They have some arcane file compression technology but the problem is that it's PS5 exclusive.

>>718627237
>Randoms who ban everyone that doesn't have meta gear.
These people don't exist and even if they do just host yourself retard

>getting kicked just puts you in your own game
Huge improvement but I still prefer to host and tolerate damn near everything instead of worrying about some piss ass who can't walk around gas mines

>>718627484
>UHHHH I PLAYED THIS ON RELEASE AND IT WAS A SHIT GUN THEREFORE
Dude shut the fuck up the Railgun used to carry shitters even harder when the game came out

>>718624630 (OP)
They did what AAA companies have been trying and failing to do for years: they figured out how to appeal to the normalfags.
When the game released, the devs had a clearly stated vision. Helldivers 2 was supposed to be a very challenging game as you climbed the difficulty levels. Players were expected to die often and use teamwork.
Thanks to absolutely disastrous PR and an incompetent retard in charge of weapon balance, Arrowhead was forced to shift their focus into leaning into a complete power fantasy.

Now, ranged enemies literally cannot hit you except by accident. Everything is programmed to shoot near you for "cinematic effect" rather than actually attempt to kill you. Enemy spawn rates are down, every enemy deals reduced damage and has less armor, and every Helldiver weapon blows through them all effortlessly. The highest difficulty level, Super Helldive, is currently indistinguishable in challenge from Easy.
But it works because everything looks cool. Every single clapping seal LE DEMOCRUSSY retard can jump into Difficulty 10, see a billion lasers shooting past them (but never actually landing) and think they're badasses.

>>718627687
A game where you're running through a limited number of recycled maps with random modifiers thrown on being this big is not arcane.
Unless you mean it in the obscure defintion where no one is really sure what the hell it even does. But hey I'm genuinely always okay throwing the blame on Sony, but it doesn't really help my situation here.

>>718628168
based

moon map is so cool my dudes

>>718624630 (OP)
>extraction shooter
I honestly don't know. Extraction shooters and battle royales are both cringe.

>>718628332
Wait hold on that's a 100GB difference, you sure you don't have a porn stash hidden in the game's files?

>>718628168
>and every Helldiver weapon blows through them all effortlessly
as they fucking should
the risk in helldivers 1 wasn't having guns literally incapable of doing their jobs its that they did their jobs so damn well you blew your allies up with them

>>718628168
The game is in a much better spot today than it was at launch. I honestly want the game to lean back a little more into the "difficult" realm, but Helldivers 2 at launch was difficult in all the wrong ways and it was very unfun to play. The combination of spawns being too high, armor being too tough, AND your weapons being dogshit pea-shooters (except the railgun which was a necessity) made the game simply unfun to play. All they needed to do was actually buff the weapons so that players actually had the tools to get the job done if they were good enough, but all of those early post-launch patches kept nerfing shit while the enemies remained the same. I would be fine if Arrowhead goes back to making the enemies more challenging, just make sure we actually have fun and effective weapons to deal with the threat

>>718628765
If I did I would be bragging about one hundred gigabytes of ass and titties stored in my fucking battleship Not yelling at the fucking Swedes for their assholishness and lack of respect for my goddamn disc space

>>718624630 (OP)
Unironically, the fact that they actually listened to player feed back

You remember that dark time when ALL the weapons were shit to use and kept getting perpetually nerfed for no reason?
Remember how they released the flame thrower themed warbond and nerfed all fire weapons the day before?

All because some retarded ideology from some retarded dev that IIRC was also a discord troon, the game devolved to running in circles chipping away at a single bile titan instead of actually having fun, and player count reflected that

>>718628914
>the game is better
every single enemy was nerfed dumbo
every single weapon was given x2 damage and more armor pen
its fucking trash man, you can be utter garbage and soloe everything effortlessly and all the steamies cry about are the fucking leviathans which can be shot down in less than 20 seconds if you have a singular neuron still firing

>>718624630 (OP)
I think it's a fun game but it's really, really fucking boring after like 10 hours. I don't know how some people play this crap for 200+.

>>718624630 (OP)
Extremely easy puzzles and mission tasks, which makes the focus all on the combat
Deep Rock Galactic should take note

>>718624630 (OP)
They didn't shy away from moving the game into a more casual party game direction once it became clear that it was what the player base leaned towards.

>>718631354
I might be retarded.

>>718624630 (OP)
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>718624630 (OP)
Nothing, this game is so fucking easy now that any potential nerf to the player is immediately met with rabid dipshits who just want to win all the time without thinking about it.

It used to be so fun running from explosions and trudging through the chaos because it felt dangerous, now you play a match and only lose a few reinforcements.

Helldivers (both 1 and 2) are by design simple and repetitive, they were never games that you sacrificed your whole life into. It was inevitable that it would be a fad game, but the PSN debacle, balance fuckups and buggy launch just cut that time even shorter than it would have been.

Absolutely furious with this game. I am not even level 40, I haven't unlocked or improved 1/10 of everything there is to unlock and improve, I only play in the maximum possible difficulty and it STILL is insanely easy. Just today I was playing with a group of people in one of those defend the missile silo missions from hoards of enemies and not once did I need to fire a single shot, all our stratagems where more than enough to keep them at bay and not being able to break even the first line of defenses.

For the love of God I am not even a good player and this is just so easy I want them to either make even more levels of difficulty available or to increase the difficulty of the highest level of difficulty because this is simply too much a walk in the park.

>>718632073
Seems to be still pretty popular a year and a half later
(Also you could still find people playing Helldivers 1 even after 2 released)

>>718627000
By being popular

>>718631275
I have fun with the game now, which is more than I could say about it at launch. Read the rest of my post - I'm okay with Arrowhead leaning back into making the game more difficult, but you can't have massive swarms of armored enemies AND have all of the weapons be trash. You can only really have one or the other or your game just becomes unfun.

>>718628914
I remember when the eruptor was introduced and was an actual good answer for the massive amounts of chargers on the bug front. You'd have to sacrifice your primary slot for it and have to aim it just right for the shrapnel to land under the bug and kill it.
Then the faggot behind balancing nerfed it to shit. Nerfed it so hard that he actually fully removed the shrapnel from the eruptor and didn't give even a quarter of the damage back on direct hit.
The game is much easier now, this is obvious. But holy fuck I'm glad its it the place it is now rather than the frustrating mess it used to be.
Also I'm reminded about the thermite grenade and how it couldn't even kill ONE devistator with all four grenades. How anyone could ever defend that and so many other issues near launch I cannot say.

>>718632101
Best post here so far and I can't agree more. What I would add is that they could make those extra difficulty levels (like for example difficulty levels above 10) to be completely optional and only for people that really want a very hard challenge where every bullet counts. Of course they will never do this and you can bet your ass no one that works on the game (let alone no one that has the power to change stuff like the game difficulty) will read and or give a fuck about our complaints.

>>718632515
>much easier now
Glad we aren't the only ones that think so. More people should say it.

This is awful.

It's EDF for normalfags

>>718627335
>RR and not the plazma
how is your accuracy that bad that you need the RR on bugs anon?

>>718632101
let me guess, bug front? because that shit is broken. try doing the same mission type against bots or squids, it gets chaotic real quick

>>718633805
Thank you though still all enemies are way too easy. Which would you say is the most difficult faction to fight at the highest levels of difficulty? The robots?

They spent the entire game development period on the 3 things that mattered.
Fluid functional movement and animations
Vibes
and FX
It is a real game in every way that nintendo games are cheap babyshit.
I wish it had a pvp mode like l4d.

>>718633890
nta but pyro robots are pretty fucking brutal
honestly if you're playing on planets at low siege level it's usually pretty easy, a planet under high siege can get pretty fucking silly, 4+ factory striders dropping in at the same time while heavy enemies flood you from every single direction kinda silly. It's just not always high tide, try to follow objectives especially when they go to planets infested with special squads like predator strain and pyro corps.

>>718633890
I bet illuminate get really hard soon, judging by the new units previewed. They're definitely my least favorite to fight at high diff

>>718632515
A lot of the easiness comes from good players imo, first 6 months there was a lot of retards running rampant but by invasion of super earth 90% of the people playing were stone cold killers and only the invasion brought back a bunch of noob blood. I go into 150 4 stacks all the time and I'm half catatonic, but when I match with 2 30s and a 60 suddenly it's a fucking struggle to even keep them from shredding all the reinforces.

I want to get into the game, but I have no friends to play it with

>t. PC fag still playing New Vegas and BF3

>>718634909
You don't need friends to play it. It's very easy to find games. Plenty of people play and you can browse the map to find games by planet and by difficulty level. It's very smooth and easy to use

>>718625645
>needs friends to make game enjoyable
guess it's not that good then

all the guns feel like shit tbqh

>>718627484
Conventional weapons are just cooler. Have fun with your gay star wars blasters I guess

>>718635345
I agree that there's a lot of shit feeling guns, but there are a few fantastic guns as well. Pretty much anything that shoots bullets though... dogshit.

>>718634909
Solo queue is painless, I like to drop into rookie filled missions to democracy them through it, they get that glint in their eye when they look at me and it feels good man.

>>718628168
This is pretty much dead accurate.
They've driven away the players that want an actual challenge, which didn't really seem to be that many in the first place.
I'd call it a failing on their part because every other co-op game has real difficulty for people who want difficulty, and lower for people who don't.

But in current year people get upset and butthurt if they can't play max difficulty and whined about it CONSTANTLY when the game came out.