Thread 718654927

> Sir, a pentapod has hit the second tower

Anyway, I keep getting filtered by having to make space platforms to get to Aquilo and haven't found a good blueprint I can use to just move on to Aquilo. Is there a mod that fixes Space Age to not be so gay?

> We made the platform engines non-rotatable because otherwise it would be anti-fun, players don't know what they want
Current design is even more anti-fun and chests not working in microgravity is retarded. Fix game Wube.

>>718654927 (OP)
>He needs blueprints
Don't you have 2 braincells to rub together to make your own ship? Just strap some nuclear power and rocket launchers on that thing and you'll be fine.

>>718655094
I'm not saying I can't figure it out. I'm saying that I dislike building platforms enough that I don't want to. The planets I mostly managed on my own except for at one point getting spoiled by someone's Fulgora splitter setup.

>>718655665
Just grin and bear it. Maybe by the end you'll be happy with what you made. If it's frustrating you that much maybe take a break from the game

>>718656476
Already did. Was thinking of getting back into it since I'm doing a lazy no expansion playthrough. Is 4 rocket turrets and 4 dakka turrets enough?

>>718654927 (OP)
The expansion was pretty undercooked now that I really think about it.
I beat it a month ago, and a few things just felt like they needed more attention before launching it.
People say Gleba is the best planet and that it's the most well made but thats total bullshit. Vulcanus and Fulgora feel more complete than Gleba to me. Their mechanics are fitting for the game.
Gleba's are not. Everything prior to it does not prepare you for it, and that doesn't mean it's hard. It just means it has a mechanic that doesn't really work as well with the already existing mechanics than other planets, even Aquillo was better fitting than Gleba.
Spoilage is just fucking weird. I get it. Use it or lose it. I get it. Just make more yadda yadda.
Gleba fucking sucks. It just sucks dick.
It's not hard. I beat the expansion with a belt only gleba base. It worked.
But It fucking sucks. And I can tell it was rushed out the door. The lan party stories confirm as much, too.

>>718656830
>People say Gleba is the best planet and that it's the most well made
who says this? gleba was redesigned after the lan playtest event that was a month or so before release.

>>718656813
need more.

>>718656830
Are you still REALLY complaining about spoilage? It's easy to figure out and a small toll to pay for infinite iron and copper. Gleba makes Vulcanis irrelevant outside of being a tungsten mine.

>>718655665
anon, instead of just using someone else's blueprint install these:
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/BarrelPlatformFuel
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/P2P-automation
you can engage with the platform mechanics minimally without completely deleting the fun
and setting up orbital fuel stops is just cool

>>718657487
>You can't complain about spoilage because the spoilage meter ran out on your complaint!

gleba is "easy" once you stop worrying about wasting resources.
there's nothing to waste, it's all free. just burn it all if you don't need it, who cares?

>>718657487
the spoiling of science packs is annoying, thats all I really don't like

>>718655094
Subhuman nigger congo ape posts like this one would not be a thing if you could NOT share blueprints.
God forbid you wanted to replicate your loadout across playthroughs without having to take screenshots.
You stupid fucking swarthy ass negro congo babongo ape faggot cunt.

>>718657671
every planet is basically infinite if you don't play 1000 hours or make a megabase so thats a moot point

I spent days designing and tweaking space platforms. It's fun to learn and improve.

>>718657738
Just make some extra.

>>718657785
what seems to be the problem then?

First two hours of the game are really fun, then there's no short term goals in the game

>>718656830
The main "issue", or perhaps more accurately constraint, is that the expansion is very specific in what it adds while trying to slot it in as seamless as possible.
The different surfaces are mostly self contained with minimal interaction.
So you either slum it out on a new planet from zero as if you're restarted the game or you build up a huge starter base to supply all the buildings required so you can get the tech to make that big of a base viable.
With he other part being that the player is far more constrained in what options they have. Circuits are basically mandatory while the base game allowed you to completely ignore them, like many other parts.

>>718658228
There's an entire tech tree of goals. There are so many things you need to build, the entire game is short term goals. Are you even a real human? Did a real life engineer make a retarded poster factory so they don't have to craft each retarded post by hand?

>>718658485
>Did a real life engineer make a retarded poster factory so they don't have to craft each retarded post by hand?
LMAO

>>718654927 (OP)
>try playing this by myself
>100% blind. No guides or anything
>was fun as hell for the first 150hours or so
>eventually "discover" my own version of the main bus layout
>its so efficient and better than any other factory i had previously that it kinda stops being fun to play

>>718658739
Belt doesn't scale well into megabases. Try to get 1000 science per minute if you want fun.

>>718654927 (OP)
>Anyway, I keep getting filtered by having to make space platforms to get to Aquilo and haven't found a good blueprint I can use to just move on to Aquilo
Just build bigger ships. You need enough room for several rocket assemblers, and enough chem plants to make explosives for them. Just make the ship a lot bigger than you think it needs to be.
>chests not working in microgravity is retarded.
Build BIGGER. You don't need to use chests as a crutch

>>718659023
isn't 1000 per minute easily achevable in SA? i got 1000spm in vanilla pre-SA with an entry-level "megabase"

>>718658485
it's fun automating and getting double digits of a resource to thousands but then numbers become meaningless and your factory is basically useless

>>718657970
NTA but you can't set logistic network to prioritise freshness/spoilness. Fix game Wube and I don't want to fuck around with circuit network to only load fresh science whenever the ship turns up although I'm sure it's possible.

>>718659069
>Just build more of the thing you dislike
No fuck that. I'm gonna make a mod that makes space platforms be a space choo choo instead so I can just put trains in space and sort this nonsense out that way. I don't even care how retarded it is, everything about space platforms is really trash especially not being able to unload from cargo modules so I have to waste valuable space on the main building and if I put the cargo modules detached from main building they don't work yet the game still allows you to put them down.

>>718654927 (OP)
>>718659473
no :^^)

>>718659473
t. retard who cant keep a provider chest full of fresh science with inserter priority

Gleba's based.
Shame about how it looks though. It looks great zoomed in, but zoomed out as the game is actually played it's an ugly mess.

I hate balancing belts for space platforms, setting up circuitry is tedious and making mistakes is really easy. It always gets overflowed with some asteroid for me.
I ended up just doing dedicated belts and collectors for each asteroid for my final broken planet design.

>>718657487
Iron and copper are essentially infinite anyway, just find a new patch and connect it to the train network.
Vulcanis is great because of the massive productivity bonus and the ability to transport iron and copper through pipes.

any 2.1 news?

>>718659473
Freshness of science doesn't matter if you make more of them. If you can't transport them in time that bottleneck isn't much different than any other. The real damage to your throughput is due to an inefficient design or insufficient scale. The only problem you're going to have is if your supply chain gets disrupted and a glut of science packs you already made isn't moving.

>>718660349
>goes straight instead of u-turning to go to the side
Ew.

>>718661630
>>718661179
I just want to have priority on the logistic network
>but you can just [long winded bullshit]
Fix game Wube

>>718661357
Is there a bonus for making those things on Vulcanis? Once you can get calcite to other planets and on space platforms you can put that shit on Nauvis where it belongs

Start playing Pyanodon today and enjoy Factorio again as if it was your first time playing

>>718662465
QRD?

>>718662505
It's an overhaul mod that is known to be extremely hard to complete. Actually there are several mods, you don't have to play with all of them, but you can.
It's the kind of mod that you don't play to get to the end, you just enjoy the journey

>>718662505
imagine that regular factorio is kinda like building a house irl by yourself.
pyanodons is kinda like building a whole housing section, from scratch, that is you gotta go and make cement by yourself first and dig the aggregate and cut wood into planks, also you're blindfolded and can only take the blindfold off for 5 minutes every hour, and all instructions and plans are written in old english. all the while a pack of rabid monkeys are beating you with spiked clubs.

>>718661796
No. Is there a bonus for making anything on any planet?

Why can't you build biolabs on every planet?

>>718663049
>>718663364
Is it just industrial revolution but slanteyed?

>>718661785
literally got told how to do priority on the logistics network with only 1 box and 2 inserters
fixing pretentious stupid is always harder than fixing a game so ill give you that

>>718664089
Because the devs hate fun and want you to suffer on their terms.
Literally no other fucking reason. They just hate fun and don't want you to have too much freedom despite their total refusal to add a god damn half-way decent tutorial section.
What other god damn reason would they add drag in space?
Because they're assholes.

>>718662505
Think Factorio but by an autistic, german?, chemical engineer..
Over complicated with byproducts out of the wazoo which often don't have any recipe to use them until way later.
Even fucking coal creates a byproduct.

i havent playded this game since somewhere before cliffs.

>Space age
>Have to fucking mod in the feature to start on any planet

But yeah, tell me how the fucking expansion is not undercooked.

>>718664231
>fixing pretentious stupid
Writing that phrase is pretentious, per se.

>>718664838
This actually fucks some things up like the ore on Gleba.

quality is shit and ruins my immersion

>>718664980
Nothing forces you to even research it. It's purely optional. Of course, reaching the end of the shattered planet is going to be more difficult, but by then you're done with the game pretty much.

>>718664838
>He doesn't know you NEED spoilage to do certain shit, so making nutrients take longer to spoil actually fucks up his production chain unless he makes it extremely scaled up, and even then it's worse off

>>718664552
Should have added a pic for the "simple" circuit board. It's probably outdated now but still gives a good impression.

>>718664894
I guess. Just import iron/copper from Vulcanus or wait longer.
Is there anything else that you'd actually want to spoil outside of bacterias? Can't remember anything else.

>>718664089
because biolabs are made out of biters.

>>718665196
Lmao.
Go do that, then.

>>718665292
And foundries are made out of tungsten
Why can you ship them over to any planet to use? That doesn't make sense...

Unless you accept that the Biolab being nerfed to only be usable on Nauvis is just lazy as fuck design, which it absolutely is.
Certain planets are much better for producing certain sciences. Like Yellow on Fulgora, or Purple on Vulcanus.
Not allowing you to shift your science labs across planets is just lazy as fuck.

>>718665153
>letting nutrients spoil
use a recycler.

>>718655665
theres readily available blueprints for space platforms for the inner, outer planets.

I don't like building them either and was the only blueprints I used, but you still need to research the productivity and turret damage.

biolabs should work in space only
then you would have to make a spaceship that circus-travels every planet to pickup science packs
or just park it on one planet and fire rockets back and forth

every planet shits out infinite resources
there is no right way to play

>>718665483
Alright buddy I get it. You're trying to get upvotes. You can stop fucking with me now.

>>718654927 (OP)
>how to make platforms to get to aquilo
Literally just use rocket turrets. That is it. Nothing more nothing less.
The larger asteroids just require more firepower that regular turrets or las turrets don't provide.

The rest is up to you, to figure out how much you want to stock up on rockets, how much of a buffer you need, and other balance.

>>718665552
This would have also been a cool option to consider, but they refused to let us have it.
The other anons are right. The expansion is unfinished.

>>718657487
>gleba makes vulcanis irrelevant
Sir, I will disagree here. Vulcanis has an easy source of molten iron and copper trough its native calcite deposits. And I will 100% of the time build my industry on that planet.
You also don't need to fret over pentapod spread and defense or grabbers holding items having them spoiled and then suddenly shit grinds to a halt.

>>718665640
It's probably because they tried to "balance" the biolabs by making them pollute a lot, which doesn't affect other planets. But by the time you get biolabs, your Nauvis is already so well defended that it's irrelevant anyway.

>>718657764
>God forbid you wanted to replicate your loadout across playthroughs without having to take screenshots.
What are you even spazzing out about?
You literally can save and share blueprints across anything. I don't even remember when was the last time I took a screenshot in factorio because everything is so convenient to share.

>>718665789
They even scrapped the Aquillo enemy, which was pure fucking bullshit. I won't forgive them for that one.

>>718656830
I could not disagree more. There is zero challenge to Vulcanus or Fulgora. You are basically only limited by tungsten and coal on Vulcanus as calcite is near infinite and you can get more of it anywhere because Demolishers arent hard to kill, and only limited by scrap on Fulgora which becomes a non-threat once you find a >20 million patch.
You will never need to worry about attacks or any real shortages, in fact, you will need to worry more about overflow.
This is the worst part of the expansion imo, there was a genuine push/pull on Nauvis, trying to set up a factory that had sufficient power, sufficient resource extraction, and was able to produce enough to unlock more technology and more items all the while watching out for the biter threat. Only Gleba tries to mimic this early game loop which is why I like it the best.

>>718665454
tungsten isn't a living creature.
biolabs don't even take nutrients like biochambers or bioflux like captured spawners.
you could argue for biolab use outside of nauvis powered by bioflux, but no one would ever use that over placing biolabs on nauvis that only need electricity, especially with beacons.

>>718665640
really? i kinda posted it without thinking

use belts for storage in space and some things should never be in your ships cargo

nuclear and space forced me to learn signaling

you're now tasked with making an overhaul mod that will change factorio into a fantasy world. how do you mod
>electricity
>bots
>planets
>space and spaceships
>trains
>biters
>etc
to make it a fantasy oriented?

>>718665954
You're playing a fucking automation game. The challenge IS the logistical mechanics and how to be more efficient.
Gleba was fucking rushed. That is irrefutable. Everybody knows how the development of Gleba was shat out last minute. Other more fucked up things were mentioned above, too. Just because you think you're smarter than you are for copying blueprints on every other planet while pretending to be king shit on Gleba doesn't mean you are.
Pentapods themselves are fucking boring as fuck. But even if we ignore that, the eggs themselves have no way to effectively be looped permanently. You have to constantly make them and burn the excess to keep it as fresh as possible and guess what, that's not a hard mechanic. It's monotonous and unnecessary.
At the VERY least the fucking science pack shouldn't spoil. But you'll sit here and pretend like that's a 'challenge' itself.
Shut the fuck up you god damn retarded ape. Go play devil may cry if you want combat asshole.

>>718666237
make a new game and stop waisting time on something you dont own

CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING

gleba, spoilage, blah blah blah
but remove all enemies
and add creeper from creeper world

>>718666237
>electricity
Mana
>bots
Homunculi
>planets, space + platforms
Other planes
>trains
Trains
>biters
Orcs

>>718666237
"It's magic, I ain't gonna explain shit"

>>718666284
>the eggs themselves have no way to effectively be looped permanently
>immediately describe how to loop them permanently
i kneel

>>718667348
brilliant, why didn't i think of this before
>magic reactor
>magic assembler
>magic rocket launcher

>>718667451
Don't remember to change biters/spitters to goblins/orcs

>>718667401
Enjoy your infinitely growing spore cloud inviting pentapods to come crawl inside your asshole

>>718666237
i wouldnt do that.

>>718659023
Lol
Stack inserters shit on your train.

>>718665483
But spoilt nutrients power basically half my base

>>718665640
>>718665789
Just mod it so you can put them anywhere. Stop letting other people spoil your fun.

>>718668407
If you're paying for an expansion you want the whole package not 3/4 of what you should have gotten.
It's 40 fucking bucks for fuck's sake. Is it really too much to ask that they give us something worth that much? They skimped out on a lot of shit if you bother to ask a few questions. Hell, play the expansion yourself. You'll find some things get annoying over time.

>>718666237
You could have something like recyclers transmuting lead into gold.

>>718668407
I had fun with the expansion.

>>718668542
you're deluded by the amount of content you've played in mods.
Space age added tons of content and systems to play, and to expand on with mods.

>>718667842
Pentapods have been nerfed into the ground. Even on deathworld they barely attack before you get missile turrets up. And if you did fulgora or vulcanus first they are even more pathetic because artillery deletes them and tesla towers pop them like balloons.

>>718667842
170 hours on Gleba, that spore cloud isn't growing bub.

>>718657819
I personally don't really like it because it takes ungodly retarded designs to support anything other than "STANDARD SPACE COCK"
There is no situation where you say "phew we barely made it to that planet, I'll go get some supplies from Nauvis to fix the ship up and we'll be golden", it's either it works or you crash and burn, and you better blueprint anything you send on your maiden voyage.
I'm simply sick of unclogging crushers, them being so fucking tiny while requiring 3 outputs takes the cake.

>>718659023
megabases with SA sit at 4 million, unc.
My shitty Neuschwabenland-Flitzer supports 4800 SPM and I don't even know how to console command me the fps

designing space ships with the retarded arbitrary constraints that were put in place to make designing them a puzzle sucks ass and so does having to do everything over with a starting base on every planet
I much prefered the space age mod even if the later researches were just millons of data cards. at least then I was encouraged to make more elaborate and robust supply systems to keep the space factories going, and all of my other bases would ship back to my massive home warehouse

>>718654927 (OP)
i made a giant dick and balls with rocket launchers and red ammo manufacturing and used solar panels as the veins and no you cant have the blueprint