Thread 718657568

How would you have made this game better?

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>>718657568 (OP)
30 minute scene of Ashe being gang raped

>>718657568 (OP)
delet Vaan

>>718657568 (OP)
More onsen scenes.

I would have sent the script and the story back to the writers and asked them to cook it for another 6 months or a year, because something is just missing. Lots of questionable directions, like making Vaan the main character only for him to be a complete side character, etc.
The setting and the characters are actually fine, but the story really feels half baked, needed more time to make it better.

>>718657568 (OP)
Add a story and character interactions outside of a handful of cutscenes.

>>718657568 (OP)
Characters interact more with each other. Replace some of the hunts with character developing sidequests where we get more insight into their pasts, goals, and personalities. Quintuple the damage from Espers and Quickenings. Enemies instadie and get instalooted when you're 20 levels higher than them and they get near you. Great Crystal and Sky Fortress Bahamut switch gameplay roles; GC is a non-returnable set of rooms and Bahamut is an actual (non-annoying) final dungeon with better buildup to the last boss. Get rid of the bullshit forcing people to buy guides like the shit they pulled with Zodiac Spear, Danjuro, fuck most of the equipment and hunt spawns.

Leaving Yiazmat's arena to save resets his health to full. Beat him in one sit like a man you little bitchboy

>>718657568 (OP)
more than 9 gambits to program the characters

>>718657568 (OP)
Stuck to the original idea of having it be FFX style turn based. Maybe then melee characters wouldn't have been completely fucked and stuck doing nothing by Attack the entire game.

>>718657568 (OP)
Have it so that armour actually changes how the cast appears- like Xenoblade Chronicles.

>>718657568 (OP)
1. Scrap the MMO-lite gameplay and have it be an evolution & refinement of the FFX-2 ATB system. Keep the Jobs.
2. Have Basch be the main character.

Easy fix.

>>718657568 (OP)
More Ashe

5 Humes and a Viera as the core party in an ivalice game was a fucking monumental mistake

vaan and penelo should have been bangaa

>>718659059
>spoiler
I feel like that's what everyone ends up doing anyway. Do people even know you can keep his health between rounds?

>>718659284
I knew but didn't want to risk that I was being pranked

>>718657568 (OP)
Probably made Rosarria be more important or if not removed their presence altogether
Taken more care in getting the few details that affect FFT to properly line up
Done something about Balthier and Fran being such nothing side characters
Last time I played it I recall being frustrated at the lack of certain gambit rules but I don't remember what they would have been

>>718657568 (OP)
Deleted it and made Vagrant Story 2.

>>718659437
iirc he can only regen if you are inside the colosseum but haven't engaged him.

>>718657568 (OP)
combat is annoying.
just give me 4 niggas in a row with some gimmicks, please.

>>718659143
And when Ashe is not on the screen, the characters should be asking "Where's Ashe?"

>>718660034
When you can basically automate it, it's very rewarding
But I like games like Factorio and Transport Fever

>>718657810
They already did that though

I feel like they should've just let you have all six party members out at once given the combat system, and made the game more demanding up front to actually push you to need gambits rather than simply letting them be an easy out for players to just steamroll 90% of the game when not in a menu. Also make the fucking summons more relevant than opening a single door

The story is obviously just outright unfinished, if they can get Matsuno to write more FFT then maybe we can get the intended FFXII whenever he's not having a traumatic episode over it

Vaan and Panelo out.
Baasch is MC again.
Have the story actually happen to the characters rather than snippets told to you while you scurry around in the background of it all.
Have Vayne be an actual antagonist who you interact with throughout rather than just a guy at the end.
More of the Judges.
I know it was kind of fixed in International, but make the summons more meaningful.

>>718657568 (OP)
More classic job skills on the board. The board pretty much consists purely of weapon equip licenses, the skills you get are really crappy and ultra situational. Where's Jump or Rapid-Fire or Blade Catch or Throw?

>>718661294
>I feel like they should've just let you have all six party members out at once given the combat system
Probably hardware limitations.

>>718657568 (OP)
Made Ashe's skirt shorter

Should've just never made it. Gambit system was ok, but this was the start of single player mmo type final fantasies. Fetch quests, bounties, grind, stupid open world design. Since 12, final fantasy always used these mmo type quests and it's just bad design. 15,ff7 remake - all shit to me due to being single player MMOs.

>>718661308
i'm fine with vayne being secondary
people talk so much about the irrelevance of vayne or vaan without realizing the game has not only an ensemble cast of protagonists, but also an ensemble set of villains
the main villain of the game is arguably gabranth and he's the guy on the damn box but cid, vayne, venat, and the other judges are similarly culpable and get similar amounts of screentime.
Hell gabranth isn't even killed until the final dungeon.
Having multiple heroes or multiple villains are both fine concepts

Less sidequests, more than half of the game is doing hunts

>>718662198
Also important to note that for the length of the game Vayne isn't personally so much the threat, the Archadian Empire is and you get multiple scenes showing how ruthlessly he can run that. He doesn't show up for like 4 different battles through the journey like Seymour but he has an important presence throughout the game.

>>718657568 (OP)
Make the combat good instead of the absolute fucking dogshit they made and you get a solid 5/10

>>718661308
>Baasch is MC again.
He never was though

>>718657568 (OP)
Change the characters, gameplay, remove the filler sloptent, pace the story correctly, have a memorable ost

>>718662440
>absolute fucking dogshit
lmao it's just reverse ATB if you don't use gambits.

>>718662198
I can generally agree with you on that, but Vaan is just *there* and nothing else. Reks should have been his driving force and outside of him throwing a fit at Baasch it never matters.
And then Panelo exists in the first maybe 30 minutes of the game and then has absolutely nothing to do once Fran and Balthier show up.
>an ensemble set of villains
Yeah. That's why I said more of the Judges. Either make Vayne matter more, or put more emphasis on the Judges as a guiding threat.
idk, I just really dislike the stuff like where El-Cid is telling you about how there's this huge war brewing just to the west, oh man, you should see it. Shit is just waiting to boil over and it's gonna be terrible. Okay, now fuck off to this cave that has nothing to do with what I just told you about.
>>718662471
What? Baasch was originally set to be the MC. Vaan and Panelo were late additions to the game. And when they were working on a sequel to 12, Baasch again was set to be the MC there.

>>718657568 (OP)
nortubel crossover

>>718657568 (OP)
Main character are Balthier and Fran
Plot gravitates around them helping Ashe ascend to the throne
At the end Balthier and Fran very clearly fuck

>>718662682
>Vaan and Panelo were late additions to the game
Matsuno has denied that Vaan was a late addition and he was part of the early game marketing. I believe this supposed story stems from a misinterpretation of an interview where it was mentioned that a mature protag, in reference to Vagrant Story, wasn't popular.
If any character should take role of mc it'd be Ashe anyway, she's the central character that drives the entire plot forward.

>Make areas much smaller
>Enemies don't respawn while you're in a area
>No respawning treasure chests. Instead improve the content of them. No more <1000 gil or a single potion in 95% of the chests you open.
>Scrap the license board. Instead have characters learn skills and abilities by leveling up.

>>718663284
If that's true, then that makes even less sense for as to why Vaan and Panelo are such nothing characters.
Ashe is also a decent choice, but if you're moving away from Vayne being a main antagonist and focusing more on Gabranth and the other judges, then Baasch matters more.

>>718657568 (OP)
I would rewrite the story so Fran shows her pussy. Maybe she could have it showing all the time like her butt. Or at least partially showing and then show it fully in cutscenes.

>>718657568 (OP)
It needed another 1-2 Acts of us going against the gods

>>718657568 (OP)
would have had realistic clothing physics, where each time Ashe bends over even a little her skirt would be completely pulled up and exposed her asshole for all to see

>>718663658
Penelo is mostly around for Vaan's sake and to have someone personable enough to warm the group up to the likes of Lamont but both her and to a much greater degree Vaan are anchors to keep Ashe on the right path as a representation of the real people of the kingdom she's fighting for. Without them she would fall too far into her quest for vengeance and would have accepted the Occurian plot to crown a new Dynast King. This is partially why the Occuria attempted to also control Vaan with similar visions of Reks to the ones of Rasler they showed Ashe, if Vaan could be swayed then Ashe would be easier to convince or worst case replace.

>>718657568 (OP)
nothing, it's a perfect videogame and the only good mainline FF

best game

>>718657568 (OP)
I dunno, maybe remove vaan

>>718657568 (OP)
rework the story, it doesn't really work as-is.

>>718658848
>Vaan is the main character
Not every story has the PoV and the MC be one and the same person.

>>718657568 (OP)
Make Ashley's skirt even shorter.

>>718657568 (OP)
As others have said, more character skits and interactions. FFXII's biggest problem is that basically every cutscene is-
>Where are we going?
>We're going there. Here's why. Here's what's going on there.
>Okay, let's go!
Final Fantasy should feel like an adventure, and that means that you NEED that camping trip element where the party plays around, connects, works through their interpersonal problems, etc. FFXII felt like it was just jumping through key points.

Of course, FFXIII took the absolute most retarded response to this flaw and made the party absolutely insufferable with all of their melodrama.

>>718665418
Her majesty the shameless wench

Basch wasnt the MC.
Vaan was an older character at one point but they made him younger as development went on.
This is no outright MC but Ashe is the closest thing to one as she's the most narratively important. Everyone else has their time in the sun with the boys getting more spotlight than the girls.
You can tell they ran into trouble after Bur Omisace since that's when the narrative heavily dries up and nothing happens for like 6 straight areas.

>>718665440
>As others have said, more character skits and interactions.
lol are you insane. your problem is not enough cutscenes?

>>718665440
That element you're calling a requirement is just as missing from every FF before X as it is here

>>718665543
You can accomplish character interactions and plot progression at the same time.

>>718665603
>FF pre-X
>parties don't play around, don't connect, and don't work through interpersonal issues
You either have the memory of a gnat or you've never played any of the games that you're describing.

>>718665898
I didn't say they don't, I said they do it just as much as in XII

Why should I give a flying fuck who is my king or queen as a poor peasant? the empire if anything gives safety compared to ashe
Why would I want to die or join a "resistance"? if anything the empire is more decentralized
I never understood the point of fighting for a monarchy

I dunno, remake the gameplay?
with the gambit system it's an auto battler
I googled some picture just to make sure but yeah the combat menu is something I never saw

>>718665898
>>718665603
>>718665543
There might be the occasional joke or something here and there but FF was never known for skits and such. If you're looking for that go play Tales.

>>718666164
>The empire gives more safety
>miss the part where the soldiers treat the townspeople like shit
>miss everything to do with old archades

>>718666003
FFXII wouldn't have had Cloud's interactions with the girls.
FFXII wouldn't have slowed down to have Squall, Zell, and Seifer quibble.
FFXII wouldn't have Vivi and Garnet exploring a little farming village while Steiner freaks out.

Even the SNES games had more character moments than FFXII.

>>718666346
Soldiers acting like retards means I have to die to install a monarch? a whole war just for the queen to feel avenged? said queen who has no qualms using nukes?

>>718657568 (OP)
>How would you have made {{Final Fantasy}} game better?
Make it like the Final Fantasy games VI to IX instead of always trying to move away from the formula.

>>718666164
You fight for a monarch because they and their family are essentially the family of the entire kingdom. You ideally follow the King as a strong father figure standing for everyone. You appreciate and defend the Queen as if your own dear old Mum and you love and dote on Princesses as the country's daughters. Princes have to prove themselves and become in the future what the King was for your generation.
When they can't live up to these expectations the royalty has to go. Charlie, looking in your direction.

>>718657568 (OP)
Have the FFX staff to do the soundtrack instead. And anyone else to write the characters, primarily the main protagonists, Cid, Gabranth and Vayne. I'll give credit where it's due. It's a nice looking game and I don't even mind the gameplay like some people. I often go to an RPG for stellar soundtracks and good characters/story which this game doesn't offer

>>718666889
Okay but why can't the empire do this?

>>718666426
Little character scenes largely pointless to the plot are basically the reason that Balthier and Fran are in the game beyond being a taxi service

>>718658782
Pretty much this, dude is completely useless.

>>718657568 (OP)
lean either completely into fantasy or completely into politics instead of flirting with fantasy and constantly pulling back for politics the whole time
have a different character as the protagonist
less brown environments
more tits

>>718657568 (OP)
Shorter skirt

>>718667276
An Empire is basically a number of those kinds of kingdoms and nations that have been conquered, the Emperor being the King above the other Kings. It's too removed from the conquered lands for the same connection. On a smaller scale it can work out like in Japan but the Dalmascans and Archadian Empire would be like expecting (what are now) Haitians to have the same feelings towards Louis XIV as the French did.

Ashe was peak 2000s aesthetic. Perky, tight, sexy, no excesses anywhere while still looking regal. Nothing nowadays can compare.

Vaan and his brother should have been one single character, desu. Or just make Reks the main guy.

>>718667991
That does introduce a bit of a hurdle what with the whole being dead thing

>>718657568 (OP)
First of all, instead of locking it to just 3, let all 6 people into the battlefield. Like holy shit, how do jarpig fag still defend a system that forces players to stash characters in a menu instead of just letting them use everyone in battle?

>>718668203
Guess we'll have to introduce multiple timelines.

>>718657568 (OP)
remove animations making them stop all movement to take out or put away weapons
make vaan be killed and reks is the main character out for revenge
penelo isn't just some random orphan girl but was vaan's best friend, and nursed reks back to life after being heavily injured in the tutorial

>>718667310
And yet, they did nothing with them.

I remember there being like one scene where they had a joke between the two and my reaction was "finally".

>>718657568 (OP)
My wife...so beautiful!

>>718657568 (OP)
The problem is there's absolutely zero twists to the combat.
It's ATB with basically no gimmicks. And no I don't consider being able to automate the whole thing a real gimmick.
FFXIII's combat had its share of issues but there were fucking mechanics.

>>718668826
So basically just have Vaan also be in the opening as a witness and switch his and Reks' names around

>>718657568 (OP)
make me care about the characters

>>718669063
>The problem is there's absolutely zero twists to the combat.
high-end hunts this is not true, but otherwise yeah i agree.

here's what you do to make 12 better
give the party members much more presence, be it in star ocean-style private actions or having party quests, whatever makes them not just fade into the background once their arc is completed like every other JRPG

also penelo is my wife and fran is penelo's wife so I guess that also makes her my wife

>>718657568 (OP)
>expand airship mechanics, add customization, upgrades, buffs etc
>develop other party members' (not just Ashe) personal stories more
>add option to side with Vayne
>increased overall difficulty and add optional superboss fights
>add ultimate weapons for every character ala FFX
Other than that, it's already the best single player FF

>>718669873
Literally the ugliest potato character in the game, people trying to force her as attractive because she is underage are really strange

>>718670409
>underage
she's like 19 retard

>>718670535
She's 16 and 17 in Revenant Wings

>>718670535
she is literally 16 dude lol

>>718670535
classic example of people on /v/ spouting shit like they think they're correct when in reality they are 100% wrong

>>718670409
>>718670693
>>718670754
>In Japan, the age of consent is 16 years old. This means that individuals must be at least 16 years old to legally engage in sexual activity. Previously, the age of consent was 13, but this was raised to 16 in 2023 as part of broader legal reforms related to sex crimes
Japanese website.

>better story
>diverse race in the PARTY. LOL 10 different races in the game and they give you FIVE humans.
Where's my Bangaa party member?

>>718670946
sure, but you don't live in japan, so it would be underage for you. just admit you were wrong dude it's okay, no one really cares. but don't start moving the goalposts about young girls lel

>>718670946
Oh my mistake I guess she is 19 then

>>718657568 (OP)
Four niggas in a row battle system, instead of that MMO-like garbage that you could fully automate.

>>718666346
>miss everything to do with old archades
Vaan and Penelo are from the Dalmascan version of it, its no different

>>718670972
Bangaa are fucking trash, there's a reason that the best Ivalice games are the ones dominated by humes

>>718671140
XII was terrible.

Moogle? Seeq? Grisha? Numus? how the fuck can this game not give you even ONE OTHER race besides sexy bunny?

>>718670693
>>718670754
>>718670857
oh, my bad, she's 17 in 12 and 18 in RW
very underage!

>>718657568 (OP)
Turn Vayne into the main character

>>718671245
I wanted a moogle and a garif

>>718671245
Grisha don't appear to exist but either way how would making any of the characters a different race actually change anything? How is it improved by having a shitty dog faced hunchback come along?

>>718657568 (OP)
Mating press Ashe

Honestly, the game would've been completely unplayable if it didn't play itself. The whole jrpg formula of "jog through an endless series of soul-crushing hallways full of monsters and farm like a motherfucker" belongs in a museum

>>718671460
i want to be a moogle

>>718671460
>>718671498
gameplay would be better. race specialization in MMO is necessary. it would be like the tactics games where the hunchback would have specialized jobs. Oh wait, they tried that with the zodiac job system, except it's all HUMES!!!!

It increases world building where we can see the other races homelands instead of just LOL here's a random dungeon.

Star Wars has always been a problem in XII, but holy shit so much more could have been done

>>718657568 (OP)
More character focus episodes, maybe something like Active Time Events a la FFIX. Also, less focus on Vaan as the protagonist, he could stay but shouldn't be treated as the protagonist. A couple more cities would be very nice, especially since the entire charm of the game is the world building; Nabudis in particular needed something more than just a necrohol. Finally, just finish the Occuria plot instead of just leaving it hanging. A small change that would be very much appreciated is just instantly filling blank license boards when job shuffling your party.

Still love FFXII despite its flaws.

>>718671758
>Star Wars
Oh. I see.
A retard.

>>718671868
the story is star wars stupid. for fucks sakes they even have the star wars scrolling shit in the beginning.

>>718671943
The story is not Star Wars and I'm sick of this pathetic comparison

>>718657568 (OP)
make the final airship battle playable, cut everything else out

>people who played the game
>this appears to be based off the works of Lev Tolstoy
>people who only watch eceleb youtube videos
>ermmm star wars???

>>718672151
to be fair, I also watched the opening cutscene and thought "wow this feels kinda star wars-y"
then the rest of the game happens and it goes away

>>718658782
/thread

>>718672004
It's not a 1:1 copy, obviously, but you'd have to be fucking blind and braindead to not see the similarities.

>>718672401
>sci-fi fantasy
>this must be star wars!
cmon anon

>>718672004
>millions of people claim it's a star wars rip off
>NO NO NO! I am the contrarian that insist it's Anna Karenina! NNNOOOOO You're wrong!!!
Holy fuck you retard.

Oh wait, ti's the mcguffin story about chasing dynast stones, then fuel, then the sun shit, then some other stupid crap and none of it matters because the team jumps on board a floating spacecraft and just kills vanye

Holy fuck I'm mad. I'm now ranking XII below XIII

>>718672709
based 90iq poster
>grrr me mad me change opinion based on emotion

>>718672709
You certainly seem to have a very good idea of what happened and what the game was about, you must be right. I'm not sure if you still say that it's Star Wars or not but I agree.

>>718672825
Are they on ENDOR???

>>718672854
>me mad because me discover truth
>cave man and scientist reach same conclusion
>midwit is the contrarian

>>718672520
a princess chased by an evil empire teams up with young boy hero, an old knight mentor, a sleazy pirate with a furry partner and the fastest junk ship in business, and try to stop the empire from developing a doomsday weapon to oppress good democrats, have an epic battle and blow up their flying station, totally not at all like star wars dude

>>718673387
You're the one that said you changed your opinion based on your emotion

>>718672151
I have a huge distaste for the "FFXII IS LITERALLY STAR WARS!!" crowd, but I'm not sure why you're comparing it to Tolstoi.

>>718673964
>not sure why you're comparing it to Tolstoi.
Overlong, needlessly verbose, and dull as hell

>>718673462
>a princess chased by an evil empire
The empire didn't give a shit about Leia, they wanted what she was carrying. Ashe on the other hand is their key to easily seizing territory, something that in Star Wars was immediately blown up.
>young boy hero
A thieving sewer rat with a chip on his shoulder about his dead brother and also a girlfriend for whom there is no parallel.
>an old knight mentor
A convicted traitor and war criminal with an evil twin.
>a sleazy pirate with a furry partner and the fastest junk ship in business
This is the closest it ever gets and it ignores the completely different roles they play within the plots. Vaan doesn't enlist Balthier's help as a smuggler getting him out of town, they have no time to settle who gets the stolen artifact so Vaan gets dragged away before they all get caught and then Balthier is the son of a highly influential Empire scholar and former Judge himself.
>and try to stop the empire from developing a doomsday weapon to oppress good democrats
They're just working on gathering old relics of Ashe's birthright, following a path laid out by the gods.
>have an epic battle
Fuck. I can't argue with that.

I refuse to accept that anyone calling it anything like Star Wars has ever seen more than a trailer.

>>718674830
You're autistic, yeah, I figured

>>718674959
No I just saw beyond a vague superficial resemblance to Han Solo and viewed the game for what it was

>>718674959
>understanding a piece of media is now considered autism
lol. lmao. this is a direct product of shortening attention spans and retards watching films/shows while glancing up at the screen between phone tasks.

>>718674234
Well, one thing is certain, Tolstoi IS the inferior Russian author.

>>718657568 (OP)
follow the first director's 2 foot tall pile of notes
make it star Basch fon Ronsenberg ody Dalmasca

>>718673612
>He doesn't understand the meme

>>718675359
>He can't see the direct influence and blatant similarities between two pieces of work
Does evil galactic empire with a relative as the secondary villain not hammer it home for you?

Either way, xiis story is complete shut, the gameplay is complete shit, and even the music is muted.

Xiii> xii

>>718677048
It really doesn't. There's a reason you need to break these similarities down into the simplest terms you possibly can, they don't hold up to the faintest scrutiny.

>>718677048
>Xiii> xii
I still browse this board for this kind of extreme contrarianism.

>>718657568 (OP)
Better story, thats it

>>718657568 (OP)
More incentives to explore the world and having the Zodiac Edition's class system in the base game.

>>718671137
Vaan and Penelo arent from lowtown, they were orphaned by the war.

>>718657568 (OP)
Build for Vaan

>>718675727
Basch was NEVER the mc at ANY point.

>>718677048
>Star Wars inventory generic fantasy tropes

>>718678731
>Ashe
>is clearly Amalia

>>718657568 (OP)
Change the entire party with more bnuuuny girls

>>718657568 (OP)
Make the story about the real important characters instead of some street rats literally whos.

>>718657568 (OP)
More Ashe's ass

>>718679217
Keep playing past the first hour

>>718659142
Absolutely amazing taste anon.

>>718678731
>Moves just slightly so she doesn't land on him pussy-first
What a faggot

>Ashe in rendered/concept art
>super cute
>Ashe in game
>one step away from becoming Hitler
huh?

>>718657568 (OP)
Never played it, but I am willing to bet adding a skateboard to get from point a to point b is a universal improvement to any game.

I love penelo's petite butt

>>718679575
Too much sand. Skateboards don't work in Jagds.

I would have made a Final Fantasy game instead of a self playing MMO simulator in the Matsunoverse

>>718679675
Go home Neil Degrasse Tyson

>>718679768
I am home, the phoneposting is just because all my vpn IPs are blocked

>>718679691
What's MMO about FF12 other than the oversized areas with constantly respawning trash mobs?

>>718679478
Square Enix is and always was a normie friendly Japanese dev. They even removed Selphie's upskirts in FF8 remaster. Preasu understandu

>>718679902
A big line goes from you to the enemy
You'll find that most complaints about 12 are very surface level observations

Double down on the gambits.
>Locked into setup, but can choose between a few setups at the start of battle
>Need to expend resource to pivot
>Discrete actions like getting a combo allow for bonuses like free pivots/levelling up gambit routine/tagging out character etc.

>>718677775
Xiii theme of challenging God is better done. There's actual gameplay. The battle music is better. Lightning is a better protagonist than vaan. Fang is hotter than Fran. Hope is cuter than Penelo.

Basche and Balthier are better than snow and kalhaz though

>>718679902
Randomized chests, emphasis on hunts, very shallow story.

The maps were good, but man was xii boring. Larsa should have been a party member. Vayne wasn't even a bad dude.

>>718677284
>There's a reason you need to break these similarities down into the simplest terms you possibly can
You’re all retards. Here’s what happened
>Joseph Campbell writes a theory about how you can break down every mythical, epic story in human history down to repeated simple archetypes
>George Lucas writes a space movie that deliberately follows those simple archetypes to the letter
>FF12 comes out and also follows those archetypes, like one million other stories
Star Wars is just an easy comparison because it’s a very streamlined example of the monomyth, but everyone making the comparison is just doing the same thing Joseph Cambell did 75 years ago and noticing common tropes

>>718679917
I won't forgive them

>>718679902
>what makes this shape a square other than the 4 equal sides and corners?

Also, barebones gambit AI simulates the essential MMO experience of being stuck in a party with retarded mouthbreathers

>>718679917
didn't know that. Almost bought the game in the past days because felt like playing it. Last time I played FF8 was in like 2004.

>>718657568 (OP)
I feel like this game don't have much decision making when it comes to the combat. Is even more brainless than previous turn based games. There is not much you can do, everyone will end up doing exactly the same thing and setting up characters the same way. That's why the game plays itself. It's so brainless.

And is not just the combat that is complete shit but the dungeons too. They are just long hallways with nothing special about it. More often than not just caves and brown and that is it.

The story is incredibly poor too. Characters that mostly don't matter, are uninteresting, antagonists with no presence. FF12 is so bad at so many levels the only people who tend to like it are those that don't even like Jrpg's, despise anime, Japan and weebs. This game gets all is praise from all the same sources as E33's. Muh so mature.

>>718657568 (OP)
Imagine her sitting on your face.

Anyone here made a private offline FF11 server?

>>718686784
Hey buddy you got the wrong thread

>>718686923
Fuck you

>>718672151
>>718673964
Yeah, it's just because they see Balthier, Fran, Ashe and the "empire" and that's already Star wars for them.

>>718667753
>On a smaller scale it can work out like in Japan
Japan lost its empire a century ago, and the Yamato have ethnic cleansed most of Japan. In fact to this day, they go out of their way to refuse to acknowledge the existence of the Ainu and others, calling them simply "Japanese". They have an "emperor" no different than the modern kings of Europe.

Get rid of Vaan and Penelo. For how mostly inconsequential Vaan was, he could have been replaced by a create a character.