Thread 718770767

Why do Zoomers hate games like Quake and Titanfall, despite those games being exactly waht they want in shooters?

My reflexes are too shit sorry gonna stick to singleplayer

>>718770767 (OP)
They can't blame teammates for their mistakes.

fast movement and twitch aim shooters have a reputation of being cool. I don't like them because I have the motivation to git gud at them.

They hate Quake because you have to find the power weapons instead of spawning with a loadout.

I tried Titanfall and quit because the only 50 people playing it have been playing for years nonstop

>>718770767 (OP)
>titanfall
does it have aim assist
>yes
into the trash it goes

People don't want to pick up a game and have to go though the manditory "smashing your head into a brick wall" just to get to the same level as everyone else.
It's the same thing with Fighting games where there is a lot of skill expression but also hyper autistic tryhard fanbases that make it hard to get into the game without a mandatory period of not actually having any fun.

>>718771204
This is the correct answer. After a certain point only the best of the best players will still be playing older games (ugh, calling Titanfall old feels wrong) like that, making them impenetrable for newer players. Only solution is for a fuckton of new players to start playing at once and support each other's servers.

>>718770767 (OP)
I feel like people don't understand that if quake somehow became popular among modern zoomers they'd be pulling the same insane shit they do on fortnite

>>718771467
Except they'd be pulling it against other players who can do it, instead of beating up little timmy for 90% of the match

>>718771467
you can already see some of it with quake champions

>>718771501
others zoomers who can do it, mind you

>>718770767 (OP)
every quake discussion theres someone like this and it's a way they feel better about themselves

you may find this blasphemous but I always preferred having a loadout over scavenging for weapons since the latter always boils down to just remembering where the good weapons are and hoping you get there first

I'd love to play quake if there was a good version with a sizeable player base. Quake champions is repulsive and quake live is dead as fuck. I don't want to play with the same 20, 3rd world 40 year olds over and over.

>>718770767 (OP)
Shooter fags are a bunch of posers, are you surprised?

>>718772243
also this

most zoomers probably don't know that quake and titanfall exist, considering that nobody plays them

>>718770767 (OP)
because they need the approbation of the big streamers, they ignore everything that isn't popular among ecelebs

>>718770767 (OP)
>Why do Zoomers hate games like Quake
You're thinking of Gen Y, the ones who invented and embodied the archetype of the AFPS Poser
Zoomers actually do participate a lot in the retro shooter community, in not just play but also server hosting and mod development

why do millennials love talking about gen z so much

>>718774485
Correct, zoomer audiences just follow streamers around because they don't have any friends and crave the parasocial relationship. This is why games like Roblox can become massively popular even though you've never heard of it and never see adverts for it

Zoomer streamer communities won't try to play Quake because the existing Quake playerbase will instantly annihilate them on entry and even if they're talented enough that they could eventually become competitive they won't stick with it, because their audience wouldn't stick around to watch them getting destroyed for years in a boomer shooter dominated by old men. Boomer shooters with established playerbases that have 20 years worth of experience and legacy skill will never be revived BECAUSE of that established playerbase. Why would a new wave of players pick up a competitive game that other people already have a 20 year headstart in, when they could pick up a brand new game and be on an even playing field?

Zoomies have reflexes but no skill.
Quake requires both.

>>718770767 (OP)
those games have the movement being a part of the skill ceiling as intended gameplay, and they would not have fun fighting against others who also play the same way.
That's why u see schizoid streamers jumping around in battlefield 6 beta making clips dunking on average players who dont play with the the exploits/the movement not intended by the dev (also 0 effort for teamplay or objectives in those clips)

zoomers low attention span make it impossible for them to grind a game that doesnt have an ironman skin and twerking emote

nobody hates titanfall, except EA.

>>718770767 (OP)
theyre brains cant comprehend having more than 2 weapons in their loadout

also they ahve to have a dedicated grenade button

the trannies who couldnt make it into tf2 are playing overwatch 2

>zoomers would've perished if tasked with playing Turok 2
Armed and Dangerous was a better Fortnite, no building required.

>>718770767 (OP)
most of the people playing titan fall are zoomers, and they aren't playing quake because the best option to play duel in quake is some Q3A source port and waiting in a duel server till someone joins
>but quake champions
it's shit
>but quake live
it's all chinese freeze tag servers
>>718771047
players that blame their team will always find shit to blame, whether it be map balance/weapon balance/netcode/ playstyle etc. people that want to blame will blame team or no team.
>>718777269
they at least fixed the online which is more than what most fighting games get.

>>718778284
Nobody actually WANTS an arena shooter to be successful. If they did they'd fucking get together and play one, instead of trashing every game for not being a quake 3 clone, and then not playing a quake 3 clone because quake 3 already exists.

>>718770767 (OP)
Most of the old games are only played by the oldfags so anyone new would get absolutely and utterly destroyed. Unless the new trend is "a popular streamer and his clique download the game and their viewers start hosting their own servers which grows into an alternative community" (which i'm surprised haven't happened yet)

>>718770767 (OP)
>exactly waht they want in shooters
Do you have any evidence to back that up

>>718770767 (OP)
Titanfall and Quake are movementslop

>>718778382
nah i think they do. it's just the effort to get into a duel game of Q3A or even quake live involves searching external places like discords or forums. and there is nothing that will kill games faster than a lack of tools to find games within the game itself.

>>718778449
movement based games that reward twitch reactions and precise aim. Those kinds of players are fucking SEETHING that BF6 is removing movement exploits and slowing the game down

Mostly because the fanbase is comprised of people like OP that get furious if you don't like the same things they like, it's off putting.

The real reason people don't play quake is because it's functionally antiquated. However, it does have younger pros, the only people interested are niche groups that want to master that style of play and find it extremely appealing.

https://youtu.be/sw5YbWQ8KcM

A lot of people who say they like quake don't even play it any more and don't know what the game is really like, they just remember pubstomping.

>>718778504
BF isn't a competitive series and never was. It's a shooting gallery.

>>718778458
postslop

>>718778742
These people fucking play Fortnite and COD Warzone lmao

>>718778781
Yeah more shooting galleries, it's not valorant kids saying this shit

>>718778854
Because those games don't have the same whack ass movement they cry about

It's funny that people complain about zoomers since probably ~40% of people who use this board are zoomers.

>>718778895
Valorant does have a lot of movement options, it's just not bhopping and area denial is tactical. It shouldn't feel bad to move in any game. Is bhopping really a good movement mechanic? Should a game really revolve entirely around armor and health power ups?

>>718778996
>It shouldn't feel bad to move in any game
True, but Battlefield doesn't feel bad to move in. It feels different, and those retards think that's bad.

All this thread needs is leetspeak and it’d be a near recreation of the internet 20 years ago.

>>718778458
>movementslop is when targets don't stand still so I can easily ADS them

>>718779046
>True, but Battlefield doesn't feel bad to move in
To them apparently it does

Instant gratification zoomers don't want to put in the work to git gud and being pure 1v1s they can't make excuses or point fingers when they lose.

>>718777429
have you ever even seen a screenshot of fortnite

>>718778504
no, we just don’t want the movement to become like BF1 where movement is complete garbage. there wasn’t even anyone abusing movement exploits in the beta, if you think dying to someone who slid and shoot you is a movement exploit then you are shit

>>718771204
>>718771454
So you're a pussy who just wants easy wins instead of learning games with a learning curve?

How is moving an exploit? Can't aimfags just aim better so they hit the moving target?

>>718779687
it’s not aimfags complaining, it’s shitters. good players adapt to the movement tech of the game and incorporate it in their playstyle. it adds more depth and much more replay-ability as it offers another avenue of the game to master.

I have unc fatigue at this point, just play your lowpolyslop and chill gramps

>>718775431
You're all ziggers

>>718770767 (OP)
>Wheres the progression?
>Wheres the battlepass?
The modern gamer needs rewards mechanisms or they might feel the existential dread of wasting their time on video games instead of doing something productive.

>>718770767 (OP)
Quake multiplayer or singleplayer? Because Quake 1 was ass.

Because these people want to be the one ONE person in a lobby who can do that stuff. When everyone can do it, or the game focuses in it, they don't feel special.
They want exploits, not actual gameplay centered around it.

It's a good thing.
Don't you hate zoomers and popular things (slop)?
They don't play arena shooters so you can enjoy them with other 30 people. Win win.

>>718780371
Irony poisoning keeps me from telling if this post is in earnest or not.

>>718770767 (OP)
I like arena shooters more if I'm honest, never got the hang out of bf or cod.

>>718770767 (OP)
Big fish in small pond mentality.

>>718780529
Don't tell me you want stupid, inferior zoomers in your dead genre?

>>718770767 (OP)
Zoomers are social media sheeps, they can't play anything unless it's popular, if they are not "part of the moment" and streamers don't play them, then it's shit.

>>718770767 (OP)
>Why do Zoomers hate games like Quake and Titanfall,
i dont tho, those are literally my favorite fps games

stop trying to pin everything wrong in the world on zoomers, gramps

What are you on about? Zoomers are the ones who play Zoom Eternal and Ultrakill, they love movement. It's the 360 generation that hates movement and wants "boots on the ground" dumbed down arcade shooters like halo and cod.

Why do people take unfounded statements disguised as questions to automatically be fact and start rattling away?

>>718779620
Yes. Getting curbstomped every round is just as useless for learning as being able to dominate completely.
Enjoyment of a game doesn't come just from getting better. It also comes from simply being able to play it.

>Why do Zoomers hate games like Quake and Titanfall
>Ultrakill's existence

>>718770767 (OP)
I can't be the only zoomer who likes Quake. More than Doom, even.

>>718770767 (OP)
Basically extrapolating what >>718771204 said, they want to stomp but they want to do so without there ever being any threat or challenge involved so they do it in public CoD and Fortnite lobbies full of children and dad gamers

>>718781438
stop being niggers then

>>718781642
Because it makes people respond. Which bumps the thread. Which improves the odds of people seeing the thread and engaging with it. It's the bait economy, son. Been this way since ever

>>718778678
the LG is the most damaging weapon if you actually track the opponent
>hurdurr low accuracy
They spam rockets and nades what the fuck

>>718781476
its referring to multiplayer, every big name AAA multiplayer game is adding more and more movement systems, which in turn is making people wonder loudly why dont the kids try something renown for movement like Quake or Titanfall2.
but why the hell would they? they want to dunk on randoms not have a actual fight

>>718771047
>never played clan arena
Quake with teamwork was one of the best game modes in QL.

Ecelebs don't tell them to play Quake and Titanfall

Why do millennials talk about Quake but never play it

Its almost as if its a shit reptitive game!

Because CS is just better in every way?

>>718790419
No one tells anyone to play Quake, not even the devs or their publishers and marketers. That's the problem even though these games are genuinely easy to get into.