Thread 718804298

>8bitdo is not popular
>new controller that is just an incremental upgrade launches and immediately sells out

first

Second

8bitdo is probably the cheapest entry tier to mechanical shit, they're not bad, not great, good price

>>718804298 (OP)
I really don't like how their dpads feel.

>>718804575
in what way?
the texture of the actual component or the way the pad ds?

>>718804298 (OP)
I have the pro 2. I kinda want this just for the locked triggers. The rest of the gimmicks don't interest me, but I really dislike triggers when I just want to tap R2/L2.

I just had their mod kits for the N64 and GameCube controllers arrive.

The N64 controller install is basically flawless and impressive, the GameCube controller mod i don't really like the charging cable/port, they send you a 10cm long cheap cable, and his brings me to the next point, its a huge risk using these modkits, I've got both of them working 100% on emulators on PC but they aren't as easy as just buying controllers from Nintendo directly.

>>718804828
ya i looked at the GameCube controller process and hated it even more so cause it takes months to arrive

>>718804298 (OP)
>>8bitdo is not popular
Nobody says this

>>718804828
the thing about the ncg mod is that you cant use analog triggers and rumble at the same time, unless you jew out for their adapter

>>718804930
It arrived in a few weeks, but if you fuck up youve basically either thrown away $25 or destroyed a GameCube controller

>>718805393
yes and uit has you stripping the super thin wires of a rumble motor

>>718805617
not him but its pretty easy to strip, i did it with a small razor since it was too thin for my wirestripper. the only hard part for me was just twisting the wires together for the heatsink. that was annoying.

>most successful, most shilled third party of the past decade
>not popular

>>718806872
Was the plastic bracket that fits the shoulder buttons difficult for you to install? Mine was kind of loose.

Also the plastic that fits in the charging port is kind of loose or shaky, it's not going to fall out but compared to the N64 controller it all feels a little bit more janky

They're the best chinkshit controller manufacturer on the market but they're still chinkshit.

>>718807372
yea mine was a bit loose, i thought i fucked it up somehow but i guess thats how it is. it still feels good to use but i am in no rush to open it up since it was a pain with the side wires

so i just took apart my gamecube controller and why is the c stick attached like that? makes no freaking sense

I've been using an Ultimate 2C and for $30 I feel like I could have done a lot worse. It's nothing amazing but it's good enough for a budget controller.

>>718804298 (OP)
It’s a huge upgrade

>>718807938
Make sure you slide the shoulder button sliders on the board to the top positions so they line up when you close it up

>>718804468
What are some higher quality options?
>CAPTCHA:NTRJV

>>718804575
dpad fags say this about every controller

>buttons are attached via magnets
I feel like that could present an issue eventually.

>>718808053
does it have the same switchable modes as the pro 2 where its strickly a switch controller? its ythe easiest way to get gyro working with emulators >>718808265
i never moved them to start with

>>718804298 (OP)
it's weird to have to go low-end with them, since they put the sticks on right
the "premium" chink controllers with actually good hardware always have the sticks on wrong for some reason

The 70-250 Hz polling rate killed it for me. Gulikit is now my best friend.

>>718804298 (OP)
Does anyone own this thing yet? Please tell me if the d-pad registers diagonals like every other piece of shit 8bitdo controller. If they actually have fixed that issue this is the controller I am looking for. I've been using a shitty SN30 for years now.

>>718808736
I believe it uses the same dpad as the ultimate 2 they released a few months back if you can look up videos on that. I don't play fighting games but based on how it feels to the original I would guess it's much better at registering diagonals, but again look up videos and don't take my word for it.

>>718808721
I hated Gulikit even more than 8Bitdo up through KK3 Max, but their releases past that have been fantastic.
Shame they're a rare chink brand that doesn't do dinput, zero hope for kbm binds on back buttons

>>718804575
This until the ultimate 2c's changes to their dpad. Before they were too stiff.

Anybody have a YouTube channel that know about this shit, discussing the "best" controller?

>>718808953
Yeah it's weird. Fuck knows what they were thinking. The old Kong 2 however is fucking fantastic.

>>718808291
Netorare James Version

>>718811216
Kagekiyo and monoru are usually pretty thorough with their reviews. Even if you disagree with their takes or rankings, they tend to answer any possible question you could have about a controller.

>>718811587
Junior varsity works way better.

>>718808953
The only thing i don't like with Gulikit is how cheap the controller feels. It feels like others parts of it will break before the sticks.

>>718804298 (OP)
What's the black thingy for?

>>718812861
it's a magnet for removing the swappable buttons

>>718811216
i used to like gamer heaven but he kept doing a billion gamesir controllers and retired from controller reviews and moved on to general gaming accessories

>>718808294
Not the dual shock 3 and 4 I don't.

>>718812506
So am I supposed to search "Kagekiyo and monoru" or what?
I got https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taira_no_Kagekiyo

>>718812965
Ok I assume you mean GamerHeavenOfficial

>>718813045
Their channels come up immediately for me, but in case that's just due to algorithms
https://www.youtube.com/@kagekiyo7772
https://www.youtube.com/@%E3%83%A2%E3%83%8E%E3%82%8B

>>718813128
thank you

man, finding controllers are a swamp. especially since I dont want custom software running if I can help it, if i end up getting several from different brands i dont want 4 different controller programs

>>718804298 (OP)
I just want a newer SN30 revision, give me a dock and dongle and it'd be the perfect form factor for me, the grips on their other controllers (Pro 2, 2C) sit at an uncomfortable angle.

>>718813506
Flydigi's the only brand that requires leaving software running in the background for full functionality, though I think at least some of their modern stuff is Steam Input supported now.
Gamesir and BigBig Won have feature-rich software that saves everything to the controller's onboard memory, so if you know exactly what you want you can set it up once and uninstall.
Other brands' software is typically more limited than what you could do with Steam Input, DS4Windows, or JoyShockMapper anyway, if they even have software.

>>718804298 (OP)
I really like 8BitDo controllers, the Pro 2 is my favorite. Hopefully 3 is as good as the 2nd and has an Xbox Controller Layout version. Hopefully there can be a Steam Controller with SteamInput eventually.

>>718804663
Yeah that's crazy, just get a vader 4 pro at that pricepoint.

>>718808953
Next best after 8BitDo is PowerA sadly.

>>718814201
Wait scratch what I said out. Gamesir apparently is also as good as 8BitDo although they never focus on the 50-70$ range for some reason.

>>718811216
Gamer Heaven is my go to channel for that honestly. He is funny and cool, informative as well.

>>718813850
>the only brand that requires leaving software running in the background for full functionality
that can't be true
first video i clicked was of Scuf Envision Pro and it needs a software running in the background

>>718814261
Cyclone 2, Super Nova, and Tarantula Pro were all $50-70
Cyclone 2 and Super Nova are often discounted though, so you can typically get them $25-40

>>718814423
I heard good things about Cyclone but maybe I should look into them more.

>>718814386
guess I should've said the only brand I know of
Scuf shit's off my radar entirely between being obscenely overpriced and patent trolling on paddles, I refuse to reward their dipshittery

>>718804298 (OP)
>got rid of native apple connectivity support
for me it's still the Pro 2

>>718814640
>less connectivity options in the pro 3
what did they mean by this?

>>718814567
I'm quite happy with my Cyclone 2. The only real negative is that the D-Pad isn't that great but it still works perfectly fine.

the N64 8bit do was available but for some reason i didnt buy it.

did I goof ?

>>718814567
The original Cyclone's shit, since Gamesir was primarily a wired controller brand up till that point and wasn't using good wireless components yet
Cyclone 2 is incredibly good for its msrp, let alone what it's usually discounted to. I prefer membrane to mechanical so I like something like Gulikit Elves 2 more overall, but if you want a feature-rich controller or prefer mechanical buttons it's an absolute steal. My only real complaint is the shell's thin plastic feels cheap, but I imagine that was a necessary cost-cutting corner. D-pad has some odd quirks in feel, but aside from rev1 it's accurate in all eight directions and good for any genre.

>>718814784
>$70
>only 2 back buttons
>only 4 face buttons
What a rip off.

>>718814567
>>718815295
>>718815531
You got me runnin in a cyclone
You got me runnin in a cyclone
You got me runnin in a cyclone
Coma-overdose and I'm in the zone
You got me runnin in a cyclone
You got me runnin in a cyclone
You got me runnin in a cyclone
Coma-overdose and I'm in the zone

Nintendo Switch controllers suck ass. Is this a good replacement?

>>718815885
buy a swatch 2

>>718815885
frankly almost anything is

>>718815885
Get a vader 4 pro

>>718804298 (OP)
What? Never heard of it.

>>718815885
Solely for the Switch(2?)
Get a pro 2

If it's for pc + switch, get this, it's a nice controller

>>718813128
that japanese guy seems like he knows his stuff
looking through the channel it's all controllers

>A thorough review of the GameSir G7 Pro: It's the best controller ever!
https://youtu.be/fJn_50f929M
(Fukken 51 minutes long video.)

I think I'll try GameSir G7 Pro if I can get my hands on it. It seems great.

>>718814136
NTA, but I got a generic PS4 controller for $20 with full gyro support. I don't give a shit.

>>718816251
Really?
The shilling behind it goes pretty hard. Dvery jewtuber is talking about it like it's the coming of christ. Handheld channels ain't even talking about the new Ayeno, they're making video of a fucking controller.

>>718816370
That's fine but damn, if you're going to spend $70 at least get the controller with 4 back buttons and 6 face buttons.

>controller thread
https://gamepadla.com
How accurate is this site for judging latency?

>>718804298 (OP)
What is the appeal of docks? What's the difference between just plugging a cable in other than the fact that with a cable you can actually play whilst charging?

>>718816509
>plays games while the controller is charging
Do you also fuck your wife whiles she's on her period?

>>718816509
It acts as a charging dock as well as a wireless connect point, theres a dongle inside the bottom

Essentially, it charges and connects instantly as soon as you pull off the controller from the dock

It's neat

>>718815885
If it's for Switch 2, Gulikit Elves 2 and ES/ES Pro are the only third parties so far with full Switch 2 compatibility, and improved responsiveness over first party
If for Switch 1, most third parties lag on Switch compared to official controllers. Aside from the previous recs, BigBig Won Aether wired and Cyclone 2 wireless are the only things that beat joycons or Switch Pro in responsiveness. All of those third parties plus most others will have better d-pads among other things.

>>718816345
The one asterisk I'll give him is he regards Dualsense as the gold standard for linearity, despite it being measurably not the case, so while he's an absolute stick autist and makes custom curves for sticks, most of it's to simulate a Dualsense feel over anything else. Otherwise he's thorough about a lot of things I wouldn't even consider, such as thumbs touching when using a symmetrical layout on ZD O+, or console input lag being different from PC due to different system polling rates.

>>718804468
Their worst product is better than most of the best shit you can get at a store somehow. Why do official products suck so much fucking dick now?
My ps1 pads STILL FUCKING WORK but every goddamn 1st party pad now breaks super fucking fast just off casual use.

>>718816490
Prometheus 82 results are accurate. GPDL results introduce something like 1.6ms latency to button tests, and aren't inherently accurate for stick tests dependent on the voltage of the controller's sticks.

>>718817089
planned obsolescence.

>>718817253
yeah well it fuckin sucks. I love the ps1 pad but I HATE the ps5 one so much.

>>718804468
I was surprised their NeoGeo CD controller has the microswitches, so it's pretty good especially for the price.

>>718816509
It's lazier to put something on or take something off a dock than it is to plug in or remove a cable. It sounds minor, but it's the sort of convenience you appreciate once you experience it. That said it's not enough of a convenience to sway my purchasing decisions.

>>718817001
i guess he just prefers dualsense feel even though he knows it isn't perfectly linear (i don't know enough about controllers to even consider what that really means)

>>718816345
seems like I can't actually buy GameSir G7 Pro anywhere, just my luck

>>718804468
Brother it's dire out there right now. You have no idea how much trash is on the shelf right now. The 8bitdoo and many others are basically gold right now because the standards have fallen so fucking low

>>718804575
I had an eye-opening moment when I peeled apart a Super Famicom controller I bought on eBay:

8bitdo's rubber membranes are almost the damn same as Nintendo's glory-years membranes.

>has hall effect stick
>has latency better than controllers 2 to 3 times the price
How does he do it?

>>718817535
Dunno what black magic Gamesir managed but the Tegenaria Lite is a REALLY fucking good controller, I was actually floored it only cost me a $20. If it had gyro it'd be an objective improvement over a Dualshock 4, as it is it's a high improvement.

>>718817503
I can't remotely agree with that, my nes and snes membranes feel much softer than the stiff, easily-torn ones 8bitdo uses
on the other hand, the d-pad plastic itself is pretty much 1:1

>>718816618
>connects instantly as soon as you pull off the controller from the dock
Damn. I have an 8bitdoPro2 controller. I like it a lot but I wish I didn't have such shit issues trying to connect to bluetooth, so I keep it plugged. Literally every time I have to forget device and try repairing and some sessions it doesn't even pair at all. Would be nice to just take it out of a dock and it just works. Then again maybe I just need an 8bitdo usb dongle? I wouldn't spend $80 on another controller just for a dock.

>>718817089
It's called Planned Obsolescence.
Now go buy another 1st party controller like the good little goypiggie that you are.

>>718817665
I have more complaints about the SN30 Pro's membranes than I do the Pro 2's, the Pro 2's in particular were such that I probably wouldn't have been able to tell them apart with the SFC's in a blind test. Though even trimming the SFC membranes to fit in the Pro 2, I did notice that 8bitdo's seem to be able to handle being compressed a lot better. Pro 2's membranes feel fine in a SFC controller, SFC membranes get squashed and feel horrible in a Pro 2.

>>718817535
Good controllers but I cant into them because of their name.

>>718817775
I buy specific pads now only and almost never 1st party
fuck that

how do i get this shit to work on my pc i'm curious about it now

>>718818124
>finally make your company earn a good reputation for quality controller
>indians start flooding the west
>noooooooooOOOO SIR PLEASE

>wireless
I hate being held hostage by the retarded masses.

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>>718817889
That might be true, I can't speak for that. My points of reference are N30 Pro 2 (torn), SN30 Pro, SN30 Pro+ (torn, replaced with a softer OEM membrane), and US SNES, On the older controllers at least, the 8Bitdo membranes were far more stiff than SNES and as a result far more prone to tearing.

>>718818268
This has been solved for a fucking decade. Use a fucking adapter

>>718818474
Oh yeah I don't actually doubt that at all, I remember my original SNES shell SN30 Pro (the one they had to stop making because Nintendo sent them a C&D) having a kinda shitty d-pad. They got their shit together since then, I guess-- a hall effect SN30 Pro refresh I bought to dump its guts into my old SNES shell feels fine, good even.

>>718818552
seriously? every time i looked up how to it's some diy wirecutting shit

>>718818667
Because you used bing or some gay shit instead of typing xbox to pc adapter

>>718816608
Sometimes

>>718817426
>(i don't know enough about controllers to even consider what that really means)
he's an fpsfag, so when he aims with a stick he wants it to feel the same as how it feels when he aims on a dualsense
tegenaria lite video is a fair example where he's in the right, because that controller's sticks are pretty unresponsive until you move it a certain distance

I would do anything for these controllers to take AA batteries again.

>>718819110
New xbox controllers do

>>718819110
It's feasable to make a mold yourself and rewire them to do so now that 3d printing exists.

>>718818268
Hyperkin has an officially licensed Duke recreation.

>>718804298 (OP)
Good design, but the SNES bumpers are not good for soulslop.

I've unironically become a fan of the digital triggers, its nice that 8bitdo has a toggle that lets you have both

KINO

>>718819713
vader 4 pro already had that

>>718819428
Having used an SN30 Pro+ for most of my Elden Ring playtime, I have no idea what you mean by that

>>718819713
That toggle was standard on like ten other chinkbrands two years before 8bitdo ever considered it

>>718819815
My R1 broke after 170 hours of ER, maybe yer lighter finger'd.
The bumpers are not made to be pressed as much as the 4 buttons, unlike modern shoulders.

>>718819240
>No hall
>No gyro
>No rear buttons
>>718819269
Can't imagine a 3D printed controller feels like anything but shit in your hands but I haven't held one.

>>718820145
depends on your materials and how you print them. They have gotten pretty good now... if you can afford the good ones, not the DIY shits

I've got the old Ultimate with bluetooth and 2.4ghz, which is compatible with its own usb dongle or the Switch.
When I take it off the charging dock, it automatically pairs with the PC and does the new hardware sound. When I put it back on the charging dock, it unpairs and does the "removed hardware" sound. Shit just werks and that convenience is worth everything. Usually you don't see that kind of smooth functionality on PC without wired.

>>718804298 (OP)
UNDEFEATED

>>718820245
Nah dude you're not getting a texture comparable to injection molding without post-processing the 3D print. With 12-16K resin printing, MAYBE.

>>718820145
>>No hall
>>No gyro
>>No rear buttons
So you just want the Steam controller to come back then. Me too, anon, me too...

>>718820616
you can get grip tape for $4...

i wish the gulikit ES kept the d-pad from the king kong

>>718820616
Buddy shit has moved way past what you think they did. What the fuck do you think makes the shit you buy today? The same thing but in mass production form

>>718820594
At being dogshit.
This was the worst xbox controller. I didn't even fucking use it. I used an xbox og and ps1 dual shock my entire xbox 360 / wii / ps3 career because the stock ones sucked so much

>>718820498
We used to get this quality standard outside of dogshit like pelican
I hate this new generation where stock is pelican quality but it costs 70 bucks.
Cucks all of you.

>>718821298
Angry chink shill
>PREASE BUY 70$ CHINKSHIT
lmao

>>718804298 (OP)
Its just the Ultimate 2 but in Playstation style and without the 1000hz polling rate.

>>718821473
I can't find where in that post he recommended chinkshit controllers, can you elaborate on that?

>>718804298 (OP)
Just buy an xboner controller

>>718821473
You might be the bot here nigger, learn to read

>>718821587
and with magnetic buttons and, apparently, a better/less diagonally sensitive d-pad

>>718821589
>Chink-controller shill thread #2249354
>not full of chink shills
LMAO
fattie Xiao pls

>>718804298 (OP)
>everyone saying to stock up due to tariffs
well that was a lie

>>718821720
>>718821473
pajeet bot spotted
he will triple down

>>718821702
>a better/less diagonally sensitive d-pad
No. It is literally the exact same dpad as the Ultimate 2 which is a different dpad from the Ultimate 1 without the diagonal issue.

>>718821674
>>718820594
both made in china

>>718821752
>y-your brown~!!!
based chinks, you've got the /v/irgin banter down

>>718804663
Its like $50, where are you look lmao.

>>718821728
Just for that, it's $90 now.

>>718821841
On their website

>>718821702
The magnetic buttons are actually a downgrade because it makes the controller obnoxiously loud while the Ultimate 2 is silent.

>>718820594
>>718821473
>>718821720
>hurr don't buy chink shit
>buy chink shit
fuckin retard

>>718821859
People know quality when they see it in this sea of trash silicone

They manufactured these things to perfection to break without fail the day the warranty ends

>>718821841
its $70 on amazon and on their website

>>718820694
It's true. I still use mine and play things on the Deck when possible for double track pads. I love making radial menus.

>>718821876
>>718822042
>Amazon
On aliexpress its around $88.2 aussie dollars atm and there's a global $12 coupon for me, so it turns out at $49 USD before tax. But I also get an extra $15 off extra from coins discount. Then apply tax and its $70 AUD (so $45USD)

>>718822895
The AA batteries exploded in mine and it's ruined, I still keep it around, maybe someone talented can fix it one day. I already tried with vinegar and q-tips.

>>718820594
>>718821473
Shittiest dpad ever made

>>718804298 (OP)
because they suck
awful build quality and triggers and dpads have serious issues

all they do is look nice and get shilled a lot

>>718823064
>oh alright let me just check aliexpre-

>>718808953
only thing I hated about em is the input latency (compared to my dualsense). Everything felt great.

>>718823325
yeah I don't really see the point of spending that much, I can just buy a snoy controller at that point
I paid my wired pro 2 30 eurocredits and I wouldn't spend much more for a wireless one

>>718817663
Gamesir is well known for being the best Controller manufacturer for making great things at 20-30$.

>>718804298 (OP)
Please make Controllers with SteamInput or Steam Controller.

>>718817089
when i still bothered using a xbox series S X SeX SXSXS controller one of the bumpers broke so i bought a replacement part to fix it and when i took it apart it became extremely obvious this piece of shit was built specifically to break as fast as possible, the bumpers functioning normally hinges entirely on a small flimsy plastic peg that will snap if you look at it funny

>>718804298 (OP)
I'm getting Gamecube/n64 worship fatigue.

>>718823325
Skill issue. You probably have to use the shitty app.

>>718823779
ps2 slim controllers weren't any better lol. Logitech F310 is the only controller with solid build quality. Too bad about the stiff as bricks sticks.

>>718823926
Ps2 slim itself was a fucking piece of shit anyways

>>718817535
Love this thing, but why does a hard-wired controller have a "standby" mode? I don't want the fucking thing to go to sleep and disconnect from my PC after ten minutes. It actually fucks with a good number of games that will fail to re-detect the xinput device while running.
Also wish the back buttons could be set to turbo a single button press.

>>718824131
Actually it was the Fatty PS2 that broke constantly hence why they had to pump out the PS2 Slim instead.

>>718825801
I remember that the early models of the PS2 fat were prone to disc laser failure, but later revisions were solid. My 3900 is still running perfectly since 2003. Never needed to get a Slim.