Thread 718829335

POE2 bros, how we feeling about the Third Edict?
Are we back?

>>718829335 (OP)
retvrn to form

the async trade is a game changer for me, the trading system was by far the thing I hated most about poe. I'm also glad they're adding more movement instead of trying to be No Rest for the Wicked

>>718829335 (OP)
I'll play it regardless of the whining and whinging of the playerbase.

>>718829335 (OP)
Tencent shill thread

that's a huge update yet all the autists think they already know the new meta

>>718829335 (OP)
Nah I'm good, GGG turned this into a normalfag game

meh, I'll wait till druid before I give it another try

>>718830391
>GGG turned this into a normalfag game
And that's a good thing (unironically)
cope and seethe nigger, go back to POE1

>>718831578
>implying POE1 isn't a normalfag game

>>718831614
I will say that my 45-year-old brother that primarily plays CoD and diablo4 didnt play 1 but has some 200 hours clocked in 2

>>718829335 (OP)
Give me martial art monk or give me death.

>>718829335 (OP)
Looks great so far. Really depends on how good the new nodes are.

>>718829335 (OP)
So when is this actually gonna release? I fucked around with it at the start of early access but it was buggy af and I don't wanna pick it up again until full release.

>>718831721
Yeah

>>718829708
Test

>>718831876
Full official release? Probably in 2027

>>718831876
Probably about a year.

>>718831893
Nice. Now let me bend the elements.

>>718829335 (OP)
>0 new classes
>0 new weapon classes
>0 new ascendancies
idk, i know its big changes and they are generally good but i dont feel the hype
I might take a look if I'm bored but I dont see the new skills making it insteresting enough for another beta rerun, unarmed monk isnt really enough

>>718829335 (OP)
>"new" trade system
>look inside
>it's just the normal auction house trade every online game had for over 20 years, but worse
Congratz? Still not paying to beta test.

>>718832050
Anon...

>>718832063
this
all they've done is add some maps and add fucking abyss lmao
i don't care about act 4, i don't care about your fucking story man its dogshit the only time poes story is ever even remotely interesting is zana or maven stuff, the interdimensional entity shit not the fucking boring ass new zealand garbage
balance changes are not enough and are not even useful in a game missing 80% of its weapons and 80% of its ascendancies and classes
the only good addition is finally making trade not intolerable dogshit, but that's only good for poe1 it's not any use in poe2 because poe2 is a much shittier game and itemization is much worse, so trading is just less relevant to begin with. combined with a bunch of poe2 only retards who don't understand remotely how to estimate price and think everythings worth a million
ultimately this update wont change anything about the state of the game, and they will literally never finish adding everything that was promised and is meant to be there baseline becuase they now treat it as a fully done live service game that needs its 4 monthly update league instead
mark my words, they're gonna be advertising swords and new classes as genuine league dogshit over multiple years drip feeding it expecting praise when it's baseline stuff that should already be there

>>718832228
I wish Elemental Expression was actually good.

>>718829708
This. By far the biggest thing that makes me hype.

>>718831876
Prob burger summer next year, so 10 months or so.

>>718829708
I'm sure it'll have it's problems and it won't immediately fix everything but it will be a massive help. Holy fuck I was so tired of sifting through pages and pages and pages and pages of price fixers every time I wanted to look up an item, I was also tired of messaging people only to get ignored for a variety of reasons.

The existing system only works when everyone within the community is honorable and trustworthy, unfortunately that's impossible, especially today with india and china being allowed into the same servers. They could have, or could still, add in some sort of trader reputation system to help with the problems they have but at the end of the day it's still a F2P game with F2P problems.

>>718829335 (OP)
I'll try it again, merc and unarmed monk maybe.

>>718829708
>No Rest for the Wicked
I hate this one so much. Great visual and story throttled by the retarded CEO and his love of "add farming to fucking everything", timegates and straight up changing the entire game mid-development.

>>718832063
Apparently swords and druid are coming in 3.5

>Shark Boss
>I play
Simple as.

I dropped it after a week, because I made an awful mistake of going Slam Barb, and every upgrade lowered my speed to the point it took 3 fucking seconds to cast anything. It's genuinely the worst experience I ever had in an ARPG
>Reroll then
That long boring ass campaign with maps that are too large for no fucking reason, that you had to play twice. Fucking miserable.
I'm willing to give this a shot again because of the changes, bleed crossbow any good?

>>718832716
>3.5
We are at 0.3, so, it's coming years after release? Wouldn't surprise me the slightest. Game over PoE.

>>718829335 (OP)
>Are we back?
We never left.

>>718832852
Yeah my issue with POE2 when I played it was everything feeling too weak when playing Sorceress. Glad she's getting buffed but honestly wish she got more.

>>718832852
>maps are too large
I cannot fathom how zoomer brained someone has to be to complain about this. Why the fuck would anyone in the campaign want to zip through every zone? You are there to play the game not complete every map in exactly 1 minute and 49 seconds.

>>718832957
it is a problem when the maps have dead-ends and you have to backtrack

>>718832957
NTA but some of the maps are way too big. It's not about wanting to get through them quickly, it's the fact that some areas are just boring as fuck to get through because there's nothing notable about them and they have dead-ends way the fuck out of the way or they're designed in such a way that enemies are frequently bottlenecked which makes progress slow and tedious if you're not playing a build that has huge AoE potential.

>>718832957
Retard

The patch looks good, but the game still has a problem where the enemies, especially in maps, are designed around you clearing the screen with every spell cast. All defensive stats are essentially only useful to lower your rate of dying to that of human reaction speed as opposed to instantly, so that you can dodge, clear the screen and move on.
In what way is that slow, methodical or strategic?

>>718833070
Oh god no you have to walk backwards for 7 seconds on a few maps, the horror. Considering you had to play through the game twice per character you should already know the map layouts by heart (they aren't complex), where general area of where the points of interest are, and where the exit is (probably on the opposite side of where you entered). At the absolute bare minimum "I have a cinderblock for a brain" level you could just trace the outside of the map and find everything with ease.

>>718833220
>Oh god no you have to walk backwards for 7 seconds
Posts invalidated, opinion discarded. Congrats on announcing you're retarded.

>>718832957
Act 1 is perfectly fine. I have zero qualms about the size of that. Act 3 is a fucking slog nightmare, and don't you dare defend it. Getting lost, backtracking only to hit another dead end, trying to find the "optional" side missions. Shit sucks bad, and you know it. GGG knew it too, that's why the reduced the size of a lot of it. And even added SPRINT. You idiot faggot.
Your dumbass assumes I want it to be like POE1, no. There's too little, and there's too large. GGG needs to find "just right"

>>718833148
Yeah you really are.

>>718833125
To my knowledge they fixed the egregious maps and many of the true dead ends only exist because the content that will be there isn't there yet, they even said as much and cut those portions out for now. There is no benefit to making smaller maps because you'd just need more of them, it's not like you get a reward for going from map to map and it's not like any of the environments are ugly like PoE1.

>>718833220
>for 7 seconds
I can't count the amount of times I have had to backtrack for like 60-90 seconds on slow characters. Thank fuck they at least added the waypoints.

>>718833279
Show us a location in which you would have to backtrack for a non-laughable amount of time.

>>718833297
There hasn't been a too large map in PoE2 yet, there has only been whiny babies such as yourself and the aforementioned "missing content" scenarios.

>NOOOO I can't believe i stumbled upon an OPTIONAL SIDE MISSION my life is RUINED
>I will now have to WALK PAST IT AND FIND THE NEXT POINT OF INTEREST OH GOD NO

zoomers

are cast on x mechanics still cucked?

>>718833220
>7 seconds
it sure felt like closer to 7 fucking minutes to explore the act3 drowned city

>>718833160
The main issue is the sheer number of fast ankle-biters the game has and throws at you constantly. This isn't a problem for screen-clearing builds because this fodder gets wiped out instantly before they ever reach you. They can be a nightmare for melee builds because by the time you finish a single animation they've already fully circled you(which body blocks) and are chewing away at your health while your attack only clears out a small circle of enemies in front of you.

This makes it so that the only realistic approach for some builds is to go slowly and defeat these enemies as they come in. This would be fine if it was just threatening enemies who forced this behavior but the fact that it's the swarming cannon fodder makes everything tedious unless you have a traditional PoE screen wiping build.

>>718833449
I'm a diabloboomer and even that has 2 zones that are excessively large - nm/hell durance lvl2 and act3 jungle

>>718829335 (OP)
waiting on more QoL, content and hoping they change from the tower system

>>718833449
The biggest complaint GGG has gotten is the size of the maps. That's literally why they added sprint. Calling people zoomers because you hold the wrong opinion, doesn't make you suddenly right. You are braindead retarded. You already lied about >oh booboo you have to walk backward 7 seconds
Which you know is a lie, you disingenuous prick.
It's not about stumbling into side content, it's about fucking finding it in the first place. Act 3 is so fucking terribly designed it's like release day Diablo 4 dungeons, but way bigger and way worse.

>>718833474
It did have a legitimate dead end but that was fixed.

>>718833721
I asked you to provide proof of having to backtrack for a serious amount of time and you dodged the question.

Please continue raising your blood pressure and spamming insults like a neanderthal.

>>718833784
The proof is the fact that they explicitly mentioned fixing some dead-ends. Concession accepted.

>>718833845
They fixed that in .2 anon, meaning there hasn't been any significant backtracking for a very long time, also meaning you are complaining about nothing.

>no templar
>no druid
pass

>>718833784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqUT-sRGpu4
here's a random video of a guy clearing 1 zone - it takes 35 minutes

do you think every zone in the game should take this long? and it wouldn't be at all excessive?

>>718833784
Provide proof? Look at the patch notes, you baboon. Look at what GGG has told you.
Should I change your diaper too, you illiterate mongoloid?
I swear to God, people like you shouldn't even be able to have opinions.

>>718833904
>retard
Many people haven't played since EA launched. You're trying to pull a gotcha here and it's not working. Concession remains accepted.

>>718833941
>8 months ago

>>718833969
Let me guess, you also complained that PoE2 wasn't F2P. When you can post currently existing map design problems that would cause you as a player who is not retarded to have to backtrack for a noticeable and serious amount of time then we can talk.

>>718829335 (OP)
honestly the restriction on support gems and the sprinting is all i really needed.
the maps were too big and movement was too slow to traverse even with the checkpoint teleporting.
and the support gems made it so that even setting up sells or making combos was shit.

Biggest problem in PoE is the retarded multiple currencies system.

>>718833989
You and/or them being ignorant is not a positive anon, that's called being a dumbass.

>>718834059
>>8 months ago
yes? did they reduce the size of the map by 80% since then? I ask again, would it be fine if every single zone in the game was the size of that

>>718834105
>retard
It has nothing to do with ignorance. The problem is your lack of reading comprehension. Concession remains accepted.

When you've spent years playing PoE1 seeing the campaign as something to get through it's going to be hard to understand the campaign is in fact something you can enjoy while you are doing it.

Why do people jump to the game's defense, no matter how retarded said aspect is? It's fucking mental how docile some people are in this game's case in particular.

>>718834146
Anon you seem to lack any form of comprehension.

>Complaining about something that was fixed 4 months ago
>N-n-no y-y-y-you...

>literal "no u" post
>tries to pull the "no u" card
Concession accepted. Feed yourself the (You).

>>718832753
>GASHUNK

>>718834059
>Let me guess, you also complained that PoE2 wasn't F2P.
You're telling me that I complained about buying a game that I chose to buy? Are you fucking stupid? Straight up, are you a retardman?
You got pissy because I said the maps are too big. In this new update, they are adding sprint. Why do you think that is, smoothbrain?
Please tell me, why do you think they're adding sprint? Because according to you, it's definitely not because people have been bitching since day 1 that the maps are too large. Try not to drool on yourself while you respond to me.

>>718834218
Part of being an adult is realizing that your opinion is just that, an opinion, one that not everyone else in the world will necessarily agree with, and that you will have to find a way to co-exist, cooperate, and communicate with other human beings while understanding where they are coming from and why they believe in what they believe.

>>718829335 (OP)
No matter what anyone says, I'm league starting warrior.

>>718832063
I'd rather new content than new ways to play.

>>718834348
see
>>718834272

>>718834384
personally i wish they were treating this more like a beta, some of these fixes could have been put in ages ago instead of waiting 4-8 months to do it, skill balancing should be swinging wildly trying to fix most of the shit skills no one has touched in 8 months. Mostly I'm disappointed that we probably won't see the last of the classes or weapons until the 20-24 month mark.

Did they fix defense yet?

>>718832063
Don't care about any of those over finally getting rid of Cruel. Running the campaign twice was always a shit slog.

>>718834353
>you will have to find a way to co-exist, cooperate, and communicate with other human beings.
Ah....No.
No, no no no. You people are retarded.

>>718834531
Remains to be seen. Armor gets elemental dmg reduction, Evasion gets deflect which is Spell Suppression for everything only not as strong.

>>718834531
>fix
In what way? It was the strongest defensive stat before.

>>718834516
Literally cannot answer why Sprint was added to the game. Lmfao.
You know why it was, and it BTFO out of you. You punk bitch, just admit you lost this argument.
Has absolutely nothing to do with my reading comprehension, you strawmanning motherfucker. I proved to you why you're wrong. Take the L.

>>718834663
Are you STILL crying because you were ignorant on the 0.2 patch? I'm actually curious when the last time you played was and how far into the game you managed to get.

I'm gonna do cast on ailment I can't be convinced otherwise I'm gonna caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast

>>718829335 (OP)
>STILL no druid
>still no fucking swords
>sprint added instead of just making the maps a bit smaller or cutting them into separate part
>the intermediate acts are just act 1 2 and 3 again but slightly different

>let's revert every change from poe2 and make it poe1
yeah I guess we're back

>>718834596
I wonder if this will make armor+eva builds somewhat useful, I'd love to do something along the lines of armor+es but I'm guessing that's still many months away with Templar or whatever.

>>718834696
Answer-The-Fucking-Question.
Why was Sprint added to the game? You literally can't admit it. You are so beyond pathetic. It destroys your entire argument, and you know it.
Grovel at my feet.

>>718834830
You don't even know why sprint was added to the game, you didn't even know why the game had dead ends or that it was fixed.

Did you make it through cruel at least once?

>>718834761
>poe 1 but prettier and crafting is nerfed
dare i say it
this IS a good thing

>>718832957
Act 1 and the start of act 2 are fine, the end of act 2 and act 3 maps are too fuckinn big, if they keep up the growth of maps act 4 maps will each be the size of all of act 1 act 5 maps will be the size of all of act 1 and 2 and act 3 maps will be the size of all of act 1,2 and 3 combined

Incredible how no one understands what made Diablo 1 and Diablo 2. POE2 is boring

>>718834878
>HE CAN'T ANSWER
Lmfao! Hahahahahaha. Get fucking rolled on.

>>718834353
>and that you will have to find a way to co-exist, cooperate, and communicate with other human beings while understanding where they are coming from and why they believe in what they believe.
Would you apply this same line of thinking to serial rapists, serial killers, child predators, etc.?

>>718834897
Diablo 1 was pretty boring.

t. someone who bought and played it on release

>the retard is still dodging
Easy concession.

>>718835038
I would ask why your mind immediately latches on to the most severe and shocking thing you can think of instead of realizing that we are talking about video games. The fuck is wrong with you?

>>718832957
>Why the fuck would anyone in the campaign want to zip through every zone?
Because the only thing that matters is getting to maps. Nothing can drop of any value before maps. No gear found can be good. Nobody cares about your dialogue or lore. There is no incentive to blindly wander about 8 dead ends to kill a couple of mobs for 1xp and nothing else. How do you not comprehend this? It is not 'the game', it is filler until you can play the actual fucking game. Especially at the dogshit speed you walk compared to the size of the zone. It's really not complicated. Look at d1, the levels are all a specific size. Look at d2, the zones are ALL A SPECIFIC SIZE. That size is not "8+ minutes to traverse one end to the other even if you don't stop and fight anything" buddy. Look at what zones people enjoyed and were fine with in d2 vs which ones they hated also. maggot lair is not overly large in size, but it is dogshit in design because it's a bunch of dead ends and winding paths instead of open space. Flayer jungle has open space, but it also has 85 dead ends and is 10x too large. People skip these zones for a reason.
Poes modern map design team, and their designers in general, do not understand that you have to make it worth peoples time to engage in anything less than a nice fucking layout that is enjoyable and feels good to play in.
Every "new" poe1 map layout is dogshit just like all the poe2 layouts. They even go so far as to remove canyon, the literal best layout with acceptable lighting and atmosphere. Nobody wants to play toxic sewers, but they are incentivised by the lack of dead ends, lack of backtracking and high speed of the map. Easy example of bad visibility, bad lighting, bad atmosphere but they willingly engage with it because you made it worth their while. They will not engage with cells or dungeon though, same lighting, same atmosphere, but no incentive.
Their designers don't understand jack shit about incentivisation

>>718835082
most sane poe1 zoomer

>>718835039
retard

>>718834897
Diablo 1 and 2 are wildly different games and Diablo 2 can feel wildly different based on what class you play because some of them(mainly Barbarian) simply don't have AoE in a game genre that, ever since D2, has basically been synonymous with clearing massive groups of enemies.

>>718835142
It was a short game with very little challenge, everyone started using a trainer and printing ears or godly plate of the whales.

>>718835078
>I would ask why your mind immediately latches on to the most severe and shocking thing you can think of
Because usually when someone has a completely retarded line of thinking, the most effective way to show that person how retarded they are, is to use hyperbole and extreme examples.

Another example would be someone who tries to preach "love all people" and you can immediately cut through their bullshit with "even child rapists?" and they will instantly have to change their mind on the spot.

>>718835232
Video Games anon.

>>718829335 (OP)
>offline trade
>sprint instead of reducing map sizes
>not limiting support gem use

10/10 patch unironically

>>718835423
>10/10 patch unironically
It's a great patch, but a 10/10 would have included Druid + swords.

>>718834068
sprinting is genuinely stupid
there's no reason to not just make sprint speed the default move speed. they eventually listened and identified the problem, but their fix is just half assed for no reason instead of halving the zone size (or more) or upping move speed.
that stupid fucking zone where you have to wander about and find the cores for example, it is a zone that you have to pass through ANOTHER large zone to even get to, then you have to full clear the place because the cores are 2+ minutes walking in opposite directions, then you have to walk back - pre waypoints ofc - like who the fuck thought this design was good? then there's that zone with the flood levers, you genuinely had to pull like 15 levers, it would have been enough to pull 4 or less levers and be done with it. then there's the giant sunken city where the zone is easily 3-4x too large for no reason, nothing is unique about it, you are just walking down the same exact streets over and over, fighting the same enemies, avoiding the same drowning orbs, there is no difference between doing this for 3 minutes or 15 minutes except just to elongate playtime and make players kill more mobs
there's that stupid lightning zone that has a map variant that's just dogshit to navigate endlessly
it's just cooked design after cooked design
every tower layout was retarded
the only good map design was that one similar to beach where you just looped in a circle and it wasn't too wide so you didn't have to hunt down a million missed mobs
also in a game with no movement skills or ability to leap ledges and doodads and that you keep getting stuck on, all of those things should no longer exist
they are only even slightly tolerable in poe1 because you have frostblink or leap slam
they are not tactically useful for positioning or anything else

>>718835520
>there's no reason to not just make sprint speed the default move speed
stopped reading there, you are retarded if you don't understand the difference

>>718835489
I'd rather they improve the core gameplay THEN add druid.

>>718835520
Sprinting is meant for just traveling. If they sped up the movement speed globally to be sprint speed, it would completely fuck with all the balancing, especially boss fights.

>>718835520
>there's no reason to not just make sprint speed the default move speed
You are quite brain damaged, aren't you? Think for a second how a permanent double speed would affect combat balance before you type dumb shit like this.

>>718834201
This is just ostensibly false
The campaign cannot be fun because it cannot give you anything useful, outcome in arpgs is what determines fun. If something isn't worth it in terms of character power or upgrades, it's generally not fun.
Also the obvious here, this really shouldn't need to be said, but the game is not fun when you want to play your build but you cannot play your build yet and are forced to play some jank dogshit you cobbled together until the game lets you play your build. Act 1 in poe1 is no fun for anyone, on any class, at all because of this. Most builds don't even start to work until act 3 somewhere

>>718829335 (OP)
I had 45h fun with the EA release. And I will have fun with the first real update. Simple as that.

>>718835569
the single difference is making you eternally hold down space bar

>>718835657
i do not care about the shit combat balance lmao. combat plays out the exact same whether you move 1 meter per second or 1 screen per second. every playable decent build will 1 shot every screen of normal monsters and 2 shot or less every rare monster. this will never change, any build that doesn't do this is bad, it is not worth spending 3 minutes fighting a monster unless it guarantees or has an extremely high chance of dropping something worthwhile. as long as they have terrible drop rates and weightings, it is not worth spending time to fight anything when you could be blowing up screens of other enemies that all have relatively similar drop rates
upping movement speed is still only the 2nd best option anyway, correctly designing your fucking maps would be the best option but that takes actual effort

>>718836028
retard

>>718835701
I'm sorry but everything about your response only proves the point true.

>>718832957
>>718833220
>>718834201
A small but very loud part of the playerbase is composed of mentally ill PoE1 retards who just skip everything in the story to get to the endgame so they can endlessly farm dumb shit and will spend hours farming the same boss to get a +55% modifier instead of +53%. Same mental illness as people doing Baalruns in Diablo 2, likely quite a few of them are the same people.

>>718836028
>i do not care about the shit combat balance lmao.
Then take your useless opinion and shut your face

>Sell a lot of quality items for cheap in the next league
>Hideout is arranged so the first thing you see is goatse and bricks on the ground forming 'u fag'.

>>718836690
Oh trust me I know, it feels like every game these days has a mentally ill portion of it's playerbase that use a loudspeaker to shout the stupidest fucking opinions at other players and the devs.

>>718836745
It automatically teleports you to trade NPC, opens the menu, and even highlights the item. But everyone can see the name of your trading tabs and I don't think they've managed to add a report function yet

>>718835082
I think POE2 chapter 2 is one of the best ARPG chapters ever made and i can easily see it fit in the GODIABLO2 timeline. It also extremely reminiscent of DnD.

As for the dogshit game/level design, welcome to gaming in 2025 everything needs to be fast , linear, uninteresting, solved by shartcreators and made for retards, i have no idea what the fuck they were smoking when they designed melee classes and the entire block/parry mechanics. The new class that they copied from Diablo IV has no purpose in poe2, waste of a class slot

As long as they don't go as retarded with crafting and ground loot still has a place I'm happy
poe1 is way too stupid and retarded in 2025.

>>718829335 (OP)
>yet another eva/es league
>left side of tree nerfed, right side buffed
>crucial build defining uniques for warriors simply removed from the game
>endgame still shit
Not touching this shitheap

>>718836840
>>718836745
If only I could build a maze people would have to walk through to find the npc or teleport out.

>>718835489
>add druid
>2 out of 3 ascendancies are garbage
>9 out of 10 skills are undertuned/unusable
yea
would've been perfect just like amazon!
>>718835598 this is much more important

>>718836873
>The new class that they copied from Diablo IV has no purpose in poe2, waste of a class slot
Which one?
>>718836947
They added currency levels that give you a better chance of getting a good result when crafting but they also added new powerful items that can rarely drop

>>718837051
I can only imagine how annoying trading is going to be with there now being 3x the currency to choose from.

>>718837096
Everyone will most likely use the same currency as before because its effect is exactly the same and rarer currencies will simply be used for crafting.

>>718837051
Huntress

>>718836947
id wish for an ingame filter +items dropping identified like grimdawn/last epoch before hoping for groundloot to be better. I don't wanna identify 500 pieces of gear per map.

>>718837004
They will need to find the exit and waypoint. Unless they escape via the login screen.

>>718829335 (OP)
I'm just gonna do other stuff until it leaves Early Access, I guess.

New green gooner ludo just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6ZExJx_4sY

>>718829335 (OP)
Templar yet?

I can't make sense of this, POE2 vs Diablo 4 is a case entirely of who releases Paladin first. Why the fuck are these devs so stupid?

>>718829335 (OP)
You're not back until it is ftp and demales in the game pay the sex they owe me

>>718829335 (OP)
>call 0.3 a challenge league
>is there challenges with challenge rewards
>no
lol fuck no we aint back fuck this piece of shit

>>718829335 (OP)
why can't they just do a normal $60 game? Why does it always have to be some kind of mtx mess.
t. have 500h in poe and still wonder why it wasn't just a single player game.

>>718829335 (OP)
you'll never be back until Troonathan is fired into the sun

>>718837405
You don't have to identify everything, you can see from the item base and level if it's even worth picking up
hint: it's not

>>718829335 (OP)
Deflect has vaal orbed the game warrior is dead

>>718836947
>poe1 is way too stupid and retarded in 2025.
>poe1 is bad because you can harvest roll a piece of gear in 5000 juice that's better than every single dogshit dropped item in the game but it's not the devs fault it's poe1's fault, it would be better if you just had to use that dogshit ground loot
lmfao
are you stupid?
we've told them for years ground loot needs to be literally one hundred times better. they invented systems like well rolled loot, they tested those systems, those systems worked, and then they scrapped them because "nooo people were getting good items and we don't want that"
ground loot has no place in these games because the designers are pants on head retarded and constantly concerned about spreadsheet averages over half a million people than about anyones individual experience
poe1 is literally only playable because of the crafting systems, and part of why poe2 is nigh on unplayable garbage is because those crafting systems don't exist, are more sparse, are objectively magnitudes worse, and ground loot is JUST AS BAD AS IT EVER WAS

>>718840995
Yeah, I will only come back if friends ask me to. The new trading and abyss might be fun, but don't really justify it yet.

Will you need to start your characters again this update or can I just continue using the same character?

>>718842058
Gotta start fresh

>>718842540
I might just skip this one then and wait for the full release or a new character. I don't have the patience to go through all the acts again

is the story good? Planning to play it.

>>718842058
new character

>>718842834
Story?

>>718842834
no
do you expect story from tetris or pacman?

>>718829335 (OP)
Any new campaign chapters or what?

>>718842995

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTiEpqRoub8

???????

>>718842834
It's ok, I dont get why people shit on it
it kinda jumps the shark and goes ancient ayyyliums sci-fi near the end though

>>718843069
lore isn't story
when you play pacman you have literally no story just some faggot eating dots.
fuck off cunt

>>718837903
Cant you /hideout ?

>>718842834
Its a bit less nonsensical than PoE1's, but its still fucking awful and does not stand to even most mediocre story-driven game.

>>718829335 (OP)
I'll let you know my onion after I unlock the helmet in poe 1

>>718843443
I kind of want the helm but cant really be fucked to do 36 this league, I do not even know why.

BOW LEAGUE

Can't fucking wait.

>>718843234
Probably, but how many people know this and actually do it? Not that many, I suppose. Build the maze and get some people blasted.

>>718843181
rude

>>718843687
Like every league in poop2 so far lmao

>>718842834
It's serviceable. Not complete so whatever.

>>718843826
True. In 2? Probably negligible amount.

>>718844034
It's been BOW LEAUGE straight since crucible, newfag.

>>718829335 (OP)
Looks pretty good. I don't like the whole adding a new mechanic that just feels tacked on in every league thing though, that's what made poe1 feel like a bloated mess eventually. I also don't like that they seem to want the game to be as fast as poe1 in lategame. But I'll still enjoy it for now, especially the campaign is very well made so looking forward to the next act.

Shitters will get BTFO by abyssal t15s. The asshurt will be massive.

>>718835423
>>sprint instead of reducing map sizes
Did they said how fast is sprint?

>>718844620
That will probably take them a month or longer to get there, if they don't drop the game long before that point.

>>718844034
0.1 was Spark and qstaff league thoughever

>>718843019
Act 4 + 3 mini acts

>9 minutes to push Jamanra to his second phase
>19 minute wipe

i give up, melee is ass never ever playing a dogshit melee character again

>>718829335 (OP)
They said they massively buffed all classes so I went to read the patch notes and it was nothing but warrior nerfs.
At this point they might just call the game path of deadeye.

>>718844724
It looks like 30-40% increased speed

did they fix combat or is it still clunky dogshit?
also I like the support changes but I still find the supports kind of bad overall
like I don't even get the point when you're just going to slot in whatever the fuck does the most damage. either cull 90% of them and make the others actually functionally change the skill or scrap it altogether and design a different system

>>718841852
If you’ve actually been playing for years you’d know that they don’t care about balancing for SSF ie. making it easier to drop gear you’d actually use. Get that through that thick skull of yours

>>718845524
Still clunky dog shit

>>718841852
>"nooo people were getting good items and we don't want that"
>because this will ruin RMT business
RMT is always GGG main focus. I bet implementation of current trading system went something like this
>auction will mean less revenue from RMT
>but auction will bring more players
>in the end RMT revenue will be boosted
want to understand their logic? apply RMT revenue as their top priority and everything will make sense

When's the patch come out again?

>>718847146
29th

>>718845524
>>718846605
Poe2 has by far the least clunky combat in any arpg.

>>718829335 (OP)
poop of dogshit

>>718829335 (OP)
Is armor still useless?

>you can upgrade prem tabs into new market tabs
>but only prem tabs that were bought prior 0.3 launch
prem and market tabs will be separate purchase after 0.3 launch?
but that's the point of prem tabs then?

>>718833449
Nah, he's right about Act 3.

>>718847583
Old trading still exists.

>>718845412
Their biggest paypigs are mapping speedfarmers who play 8+ hours a day. Right side builds will never, ever be bottom tier lol

Will melee feel fun?

>>718847963
If you consider Hollow Palm + Thunderfist melee, then yeah melee will be fun

Can someone explain why sprinting is good? Seems like a meme to coverup dogshit game design

>>718847439
Ironically I found TQ2 being the solid second best, its basically PoE2's combat but with a bit of a clunk with animation transitions.

>>718848698
jonathan did a decent rundown on it.
bottom line is that it lets combat be dangerous while having a speedup for traversal, most games have a sprint btw.

>>718829335 (OP)
Why is there no sword dude class yet?

>>718829335 (OP)
I love POE2 for the simple fact that I hated it so much that it broke my POE1 addiction. Thank you GGG

>>718848698
It looked like a good way to move a alot faster while also requiring you to be aware while doing it since there's a drawback, I think it looks great.

i got to like level 50 with merc grenade

then the season came out and i tried spear girl but wanted to do the minion merc

got to level 10 and gave up, im addicted to pvp games

>>718848698
They are adamant on having extremely huge zones for whatever the fuck reasons, but apparently either they caved to all feedback or they did not have intention of making players backtrack/slog trough each zone so they find a solution that "might" satisfy both devs and players.
Keep in mind we still have no fucking idea why are they THAT adamant on giant zones. Like some A3 zones are retarded-levels of huge.

>>718848797
>>718848875
Fair enough. I think traversal skills like frostblink and leap slam would be far superior but that’s me. Also I don’t like the fact you’re supposed to be a godkiller at end game and when a white mob hits you for 1 damage you just trip and fall over and then proceed to get gangbanged

>>718848698
It's a classic bandaid situation

>>718848869
same
glad I don’t waste my time on this slop

>>718849210
I wonder if they might add a % minimum damage for it to actually trip you over, that would make sense I think.

>>718829335 (OP)
I don't think ARPGs can be considered a worthwhile thing to play any more. They dumbed down everything in the game and all the fun people left so no one even shitposts in general chat any more. Everyone just quietly grinds.

>>718849264
To be fair changing zone gel algo sounts like much easier solution than creating a whole ass new system (that now affects, for examble, boss mechanics), so they just did not want to do it for whatever reason.

>>718829335 (OP)
I'm totally done with it, game went in the wrong direction. Not playing poe1 any more for fear of the aids they added carrying over into that game. I'm done with arpgs as a whole, poe was the last one worth playing and it's shit now.

I kinda want to go elemental spells namely Firestorm and raining down all 3 elements but I'll probably go Monk because ES+Evasion+Deflect will be fucking unkillable.

>>718831578
nta but theyre making poe2 the same as poe1. i.e. mindless easy slot machine. launch poe2 was great and if you disagree or prefer 0.2 poe2 you are spiritually jewish.

>>718849872
Yeah they need to slow it down a lot, this patch is looking like it's going to power the player up massively. All the numbers need to go down.

>>718829335 (OP)
Nerfing Warrior honestly hurt my interest pretty hard.
I don't get it.
>Nerf block to 50% from 75% (you take 50% more damage on average)
>Don't buff Armor when it was the worst defensive layer
>Nerf Giant's Blood, which you needed on Warrior because 1h maces were terrible
>Nerf a bunch of their skills
>Nerf Smith of Kitava
I am trying to play something new each character, and so far I've done Monk, Spark Stormancer, and a Bleed Huntress.
I don't want to play bows or minions, so I am basically left with Crossbows or Maces, and I wanted to play a Warrior.
I guess I can try out a crossbow character but they nerfed galvanic arrow so I don't know what you even clear with now.

>>718850078
play bonk.
bonk stronk.
gameplay loop is warcry - > bonk -> stuff dies

>>718850143
Bonk is much weaker now.

>>718832332
It got buffed, didn't it?

>>718850189
yes. it is still however still stronk enough to clear endgame without too much extra investment.

>>718831876
If you mean a forced 1.0 that makes it f2p? Probably like a year.
All of the classes and acts? Probably 18 months.

>>718849872
>making poe2 the same as poe1
Their extremely retarded playerbase screeched at them endlessly i understand why they gave in. I hope Chris gets to make his own games and have fun.

>>718850305
>Their extremely retarded playerbase
But it's not their playerbase. They're ignoring their playerbase and just adding whatever reddit wants. It's gunna be last epoch 2

>>718829335 (OP)
Can't wait to see the insane inflation that async trading is going to cause.

>>718850675
but last epoch 2 is poe 1 beta? I see loop

>>718850675
>They're ignoring their playerbase
Their forums are even worse so I'm not sure what they're ignoring

>>718850770
>more people will drop their 1c items now because you LITERALLY don't need to do anything to receive said 1c
>inflation
Maybe at the very top where fat jews can control select few items that appear on market but who cares about top 1%, they can die and nobody will notice
but I also don't expect top 1% items to appear on market, they will continue to be sold by whispers/invites

>>718850906
Last Epoch is a game balanced around SSF that showers bubblegum loot on you nonstop starting at level 1 where trading has a chinese social credit system and crafting is absolutely braindead with almost no risk involved, and all the "builds" are prebaked wow style cookie cutter classes. Maps aren't even modular, you just click on the next map so it's just an endless treadmill that any idiot can mindlessly plow through with no strategy whatsoever. I hope PoE dies off and takes this whole genre with it, because it's always been PoE plus a legion of desperate whiny sour grapes casuals orbiting it that just want digital heroin instead of video games.

>>718850238
That's more than a 50% overall buff. That's massive. Combined with other changes we know of that'll do at least 3x more damage.

>>718851242
>crafting is absolutely braindead with almost no risk involved
PoE is the other extreme where you have to gamble 79 different currencies to end up with a worse item than the guy who just paid 10 chaos to buy it

>>718851692
But that doesn't happen if you understand the game. Now they are changing it for people who don't want to understand the game, so there's no game left. ARPGs are a bad genre. PoE was the last one that actually tried to be a video game, now you people are no better than the retard making bethesda and bioware threads every day.

I'm gunna play factorio and mushihimesama today. Silksong, Rainchaser, Mina, Big Catch, MENACE, and White Knuckle are on the horizon, no time to brainlessly grind casual garbage with all the gameplay stripped out of it.

>>718851242
>crafting is absolutely braindead with almost no risk involved
This is wrong and also you can't directly compare the two because they serve completely different functions.

In PoE 99.9% of all drops are complete dogshit and a waste of screen real estate. You typically want extremely specific bases(which are fairly rare themselves) or the 0.01 of drops that have just good enough stats already that you can conceivably salvage them and turn them into something good if RNG allows it. Other than that you're just dumping currency to reroll shit forever because PoE is basically just a slot machine simulator. You're always praying for that jackpot because that's just how the game works. You rarely get incremental upgrades. You get huge wins with RNG and that slot is done for the season unless you're a turbo autist tryhard who makes a living playing the game in which case you keep mindlessly grinding away for the god RNG on top of god RNG through corruption.

In Last Epoch crafting is just how you get gear. You don't have to wait for a lucky drop, you can just make a good item whenever you want. You use your crafted stuff until you find the unique you want for the slot and then the crafting system becomes a way to modify tier 7-8 stats that you slap on your uniques.
>all the "builds" are prebaked wow style cookie cutter classes
You say this as if PoE is any different. Ascendancies make it so that certain characters are just objectively better for certain playstyles. All Last Epoch does is remove the illusion of choice.

>>718829335 (OP)
>early access

>>718852008
>In PoE 99.9% of all drops are complete dogshit
Every single map I run I get gear worth slamming and make something worth multiple divines. You're just a brainlet. Gear has value because it requires knowledge to churn out, and having the ability to do that is rare. Now it doesn't matter.

>>718852104
Pay up pig

>>718851935
>if you understand the game
there's nothing to understand. It's a slot machine. Kripparian himself complained about spending like 10k orbs of alteration to get a +2 minion gem level helmet

>>718849872
Good POE2 wasn't fun cause of how tanky everything was.

>>718852487
Kripp isn't good at the game and never has been.

>>718852579
if Kripp stops tomorrow and you play non stop for 5 years you still won't touch Kripp's level. But that's beside the point, he made a factual statement and he's right. Top tier items are simply impossible to target farm/craft for any PoE player not willing to devote 5-6 hours a day to grinding

I fucking hate Diablo-style games. Its literally just gambling: the genre

>run through dungeon pressing 1 button to clear mobs mindlessly
>barely any mechanics that make combat interesting at all
>WOW BIG THING DROPPED!
>oops its the weapon I want but it rolled bad stats so its shit, time to run the same dungeon again for 100000 times!

You niggers need an intervention

>>718852154
>Every single map I run I get gear worth slamming and make something worth multiple divines.
No you don't. Just going to accept your concession here because you're being disingenuous and this is no longer about the game. It's about your insecurity flaring up and how you want to be perceived as some genius.

>>718852721
>>run through dungeon pressing 1 button to clear mobs mindlessly
poe2 is not one button ggg is doing everything to nerf the ever living fuck out of anything 1 button build related and buff combos they have done this every single 0.0 patch

>>718852721
Last Epoch is the opposite of this. The game is so generous with loot that a lot of people finish with a character after a week of play because they have reached 95%+ maximum potential and the only thing left to go for is a full set of LP4 items which barely makes a difference.

>want to play chronomancer
>no idea what the fuck I should do
I can just wing it right guys

>>718835489
this but axes

>>718834218
You are probably confused because you are doing short term thinking and the people who call you retarded think about the consequences of the changes you are proposing.

>>718852673
>you still won't touch Kripp's level
I'm already better at the game than Kripp. He's a retard.

I was hyped during the stream, but after reading patchnotes... Not so much. Idk, I guess I'll try to make demonform work, I don't have much hope though.

>>718853348
ok, post yourself doing red maps in ssf ruthless

>>718852886
They're basically doing only buffs this patch though

>>718853397
What changed
>t.hasn't read them

>>718853487
you should read the patch notes they nerfed a lot of shit because of the support gem changes

>>718853614
They only nerfed outliers. Those builds are still going to be strong because of all the other changes.

>>718852834
>No you don't.
Dude I literally do. Holy hell, its like retards live in a different dimension. The whole reason I liked the game is because I can do that. There is an actual skill gap.

>>718853443
>red maps
wowie

>>718853832
>didn't post it
thank you

>>718853772
you're standing in one place. What skill?

>>718852721
Diablo was good becasue of the lore, the setting, the ladder back in the 90s.

POE2 is dogshit because it's made for geriatric retards, trailer trash and unwanted kids with crackwhore mothers that die from hearth attacks while they play wow. Literalyl mentally ill retards

>>718853772
Congratulations you repeated the same cookie cutter shit everyone else did for that league. You are not special, you are not smart. Thanks for the easy concession.

>>718850078
>I guess I can try out a crossbow character
I cleared everything in the game with flash grenade titan each of the prior updates. Hulking form is a huge benefit for crossbow users and grenades in particular because there are very few sources of cooldown reduction and reduced skill effect duration, both of which are required to un-jank grenades, and hulking form lets you get more juice out of the nearby cdr and -duration nodes which constitute the main source of these stat increases. The heavy stun ascendancy nodes also synergize extremely well and you need basically no other investment into stun to ragdoll bosses. However the loss of deepest tower and the addition of the mortar skill means tactician probably surpasses titan for grenade builds now.

Josh melty

>>718853772
>one of the greatest games ever made
>tanks below 10fps on a 5090 9800x3d

>>718853939
Maps are just a function you complete in 30 seconds. The skill is being able to strategize the construction of those maps and devise a plan which maximizes divs by understanding the market and crafting system. You think its impossible to craft good gear, but for me its just a regular part of the game I did constantly. You will never get to experience that kind of knowledge progression, you robbed yourself of that gameplay. Now its not a game any more. Maybe you should stop looking for casual shortcuts and actually find a game worth learning and getting good at. Too much of /v/ is people who don't even like games and just want to passively consume things. Like 90% of the catalogue is usually shitty RPGs and console slop. God forbid someone 1ccs a shmup or something. People are crying indie platformers are too hard now. Its just mind boggling.

>>718854140
just order a gpu from the future retard

>>718854140
The FPS isn't tanking, the graphics are just bugging out because I've created a situation the game wasn't designed to handle.

>>718854252
are you trying to gaslight me? the fps tanks in poe wtf are you talking about?

>>718854191
>You think its impossible to craft good gear
I gave you a very specific example for a mod that's extremely hard to get and you never addressed it. No amount of "skill" will make you somehow defeat the math of mod pools

>>718854191
>"i looked up a guide and put the points into the thingies that the guide said to do and farmed the places i was told to farm. everyone respect me for i am smart. please ignore the fact that everything i'm doing from my character build to my atlas build to the content being farmed is all cookie cutter. do not take this away from me i need to feel intelligent so i can act like i'm superior."

>>718853976
>Congratulations you repeated the same cookie cutter shit everyone else did for that league
Dude I beat ubers with slams.

>>718853772
if you told me this was some nexon gacha dogshit id believe you
i mean what the fuck am i even watching

mobile game / cookie clicker tier

>>718829335 (OP)
New class this patch or no?

>>718854396
Yes. With a cookie cutter build. Is it possible for you to not make yourself look like a retard for a single post?

>>718854496
no

>>718854512
How is earthshatter a cookie cutter build?

>the retard doesn't understand the difference between cookie cutter and meta
Jesus fucking christ and to think shitters like this have the gall to put on the condescending act.

The biggest issue I had with PoE2 is that it's way too easy. Act 1 was still ok, but as soon as your build starts coming together it becomes a cakewalk.
>you used a wikifag metabuild
No, I did not look up anything at all nor ask in chat. I'm just not completely braindead.
>go to endgame
I don't care much for the dopamine-addict lootrush bullshit. I am mainly interested in the story acts, so I don't want them to be as easy as holding right click and watching the entire screen die.

The worst part is the Steam forums are filled with retards saying this and that are soooo hard. There's just such a massive divide between a decent build and a dogshit 50IQ mong build that the devs will never be able to reconcile the whole spectrum. Either it's too easy to for some, or it's utterly impossible for others, and I fear the window-lickers are the majority.

>>718854356
>I gave you a very specific example for a mod that's extremely hard to get
But its not hard to get and its not even necessary.

>>718854586
Cool, I'm gonna pass then. Thanks anon.

Autistic Trading: The game

>>718854761
>But its not hard to get
ok, so how would you get it?
>its not even necessary
how do you define a necessary mod?

>>718854953
Don't worry, they removed that part. No autism required, boring normalfags only now. Just dad gamers quietly grinding on a loot treadmill, tens of thousands of players with a dead quiet general chat, just like D4.

Cant wait to get to looten und leveln and chillin in the fourteenth of an eighty and eight.

>>718853772
This is satire right

>>718854980
The difficulty is creating an item with perfect affixes, but if you settle for less than perfect it doesn't really matter. Having an extra +whatever socketed gems isn't going to be a substantial DPS increase at that level optimization. This is why you can't copy people, you have to understand the crafting system so you can make your own gear to suit your own needs, and understand what gear is worth.

But again, none of this shit matters any more since Johnathan has turned this into a casual retard game.

>>718854648
>No, I did not look up anything at all nor ask in chat. I'm just not completely braindead.
Learning from the experience of other people is perfectly normal if you want to get better. Otherwise, humanity would've never evolved.

>>718855086
>search the site
>copy premade message
>tp to the seller
>drop items/accept
>tp out
wow so much autism required such an intricate process of trade, impossible to improve, everyone LOVES it! i especially love getting 10 afk messages when i try to buy an item!

>>718855232
The funny thing is that isn't even the height of bullshit you can see in PoE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x08PFyBeM4

what are the problems that PoE1 currently has?

>>718855372
>i especially love getting 10 afk messages when i try to buy an item!
Items are worth the price that actually moves the item on the market, not what people list the item at. You are requesting items in someone's preset pricing garbage tab that are so worthless you're basically digging through their trashcan.

>>718855631
and with new system i won't get a single fucking afk message. get fucked cunt.

>>718841065
It's a $45 game that you can try for free for a couple hundred hours, and they aren't charging $60 at the door because that way they would have gone out of business 12 years ago.
t. not a retard

>>718855594
Headhunter into Mageblood meta
Being able to heal your entire health bar per game tic means eHP is all that matters for defenses endgame
Chaining cluster jewels is stupid and kills build variety
Inevitable addition of async trade from poe2 ruining the game

>>718854396
Honestly, one of my fav boss fights on poe1

>>718855594
Just look at the videos already posted in this thread. PoE 1 has become a parody of itself.

>>718855715
>and with new system i won't get a single fucking afk message
You'll get a bunch of worthless garbage immediately then hit a wall and drop the game until GGG casualizes it further. You've never even played the game. You're just waiting for GGG to make certain milestones free, passively getting to that milestone, then dropping it as soon as you get to the real part of the game. This is why ARPGs can never be good, they attract too many retards.

>>718841065
Microtransactions existing are a benefit for 90% of consumers. Retards don't understand why but it's true.

>>718856005
You're choosing an awfully weird hill to die on and you're only reinforcing the assessment that you're not actually concerned about the actual impact changes will have on the game, you're worried about how you have fewer avenues of autism to lord yourself over others who refuse to deal with bullshit.

>>718856241
>You're choosing an awfully weird hill to die
I'm not playing the game any more because they've casualized the game too much to appease people like you who will just keep dropping it at every single minor obstacle. The entire genre is already ruined. Now the game is even simpler than gacha. Uma Musume is literally 100x more complicated than the current iteration of PoE2.

Okay now you made it too obvious. Carry on.

>>718856572
No, I'm serious. Even the basic reference document for uma musume is over 100 pages long.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11X2P7pLuh-k9E7PhRiD20nDX22rNWtCpC1S4IMx_8pQ
PoE2 is a baby game that's easier than even gacha. People who make ARPG threads are worse than gacha posters. Hell, pretty much all RPG threads are worse, you could do away with 90% of them and the board would lose absolutely nothing.

So is there any reason to wait to play a new character or should I just get what I can out of the way before the update?

>>718853397
>everyone hyped after announcement
>patch notes come out
>anons start dooming because it's mostly nerfs on paper
>barely any details on new content
>anons queue up on day one anyway
>someone releases a video on an OP new mechanic or interaction after the first weekend that no one saw coming (most players are too lazy to theorycraft when POB gets updated)
>"The league is SAVED"
Most leagues are like this btw

>>718841065
Because it allows them to develop their games for years. Just look at Factorio studio what happens when you try to grow as a company but you've only released one game.

>>718858073
We already know that every evasion based character is going to crush the game

I'll come back if they add character customization, I want to play as a blond white guy not swarthy people or women

>>718858450
Templar is a redheaded scotsmen
Gladiator is Italian
Shadow is white
Merc is a chav
Druid is white, I don't remember if he is irish or what

>>718855086
Why would I want to talk to other people? Fuck off.

>>718856484
Do you have the Keanu reeves edit? asking for a friend (that's me, i don't have friends)

BFR and Troonathan ruined the game. I am mad.

>>718851692
fucking this
the poey2 interview with ziz directly tells us that they expect you to vendor trade items for currency rather than find it on the ground through drops, which is deeply unsatisfying on top of the facts that
>the fucking crafting bench wasn't even in the game yet
and
>poey crafting is complete trash and not even worth the effort when someone else can just FIND the exact rare/unique you want and player trade
This is why SSF just uses the most easy-bake metaslop, because the crafting bench is about as effective in poe1 as it is being totally absent in poe2

>>718832957
They literally ballooned map size on most poe2 maps then crowbar'd in a fucking mount skill that uses one of your limited skill slots for the sole privilege of being hard knockdown'd
>>718833220
>7 seconds
not in the massive labyrinths poe2 had and still has

That clip in the announcement where the grenade take 2 minutes to explode. idk

>>718859875
But did ziz say thank you? Did he say thank you?

>>718855594
ES/CI still way too good. It's basically the way to go for comfy farming T16.5 and above until you dump multiple mirrors into a Slayer or Jugg.
Even if Trickster and FRoSS get absolutely dumpstered next league Aegis builds are still around and they don't need armorstacker-tier budgets to start farming T17s

>>718858413
Tell that to >>718853397

>>718860315
>Tell that to
Just looks like a guy who wants to play demonform

>>718860495
I'm not the one dooming on this patch

>>718829335 (OP)
>ggg is throwing in the towel and is just going to turn this game into poe1
No thanks.

>>718860625
>dooming
Warrior being ruined kinda sucks if you want to play warrior

>>718861108
Explain for someone who has never played POE1 how this game is becoming more like it and what differences 2 did have that set it apart?

What are the chances of them pulling the plug after 0.3? I don't think this game is salvageable.

>>718863232
>That tiny bump for the pseudo league 0.2 is about the same as all time high for PoE1
Pfffffffffffff

>>718863232
0% since it's doing better than any other arpg afaik.

call me when this shit is done being beta tested and its free

>>718864134
alright, ill call you in 2 years

>>718864134
It's gonna be free for a while when this patch releases I think? But yeah it's not a finished game.

>>718864134
there's a free weekend next week when 0.3 drops if you want to try it out

>>718863232
game already funded for next 20 years or so with initial purchases, it's literally free money for them going forward

>>718864134
https://www.pathofexile2.com/freeweekend

>>718863232
Anon the game isnt out yet its in closed beta

>>718864134
You'll wish you had just paid for beta anyway since the game is practically unplayable without the paid tabs

>>718829335 (OP)
This is a paid ad

>>718829335 (OP)
Is it out yet? If not, don't care until they release

>>718863232
>pretending to be retarded

Is PoE one of the most shilled games ever? When GGG did their announcement for the patch they paid off half the streamers on twitch to watch it.
And then you have threads like this that¨s obviously made by some shill

>>718866934
>GGG just spent and ungodly amount of money on sponsorship, paying streamers to stream their announcement
>A few days later Twitch crack down on bots and it turns out nearly all the viewers of big streamers are mostly just viewbots

>>718868030
>it turns out nearly all the viewers of big streamers are mostly just viewbots
wait, what? pretty sure it was established in last decade already, that every top streamer view bot and view aren't real
did they forgot and re-discovered it recently?