Thread 718856738

>DICE nerfs movement so game will actually require skill to play
>little CoD kids come out the woodwork and cry that being able to zoom around at 30mph on foot requires skill
Lmao

https://x.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1958544678409642329

Whether or not it takes skill is irrelevant. The point is it isn't fun to play against, and it doesn't fit Battlefield.

>over the age of 35
>can't aim for shit

I think way over 10% of the battlefield playerbase are wooks

seems like they're setting themselves up on the spectrum of "combat realism" somewhere beween COD and ARMA, rather than fortnite

>over the age of 35
>can't aim
Does this really happen?

If you want to play CoD go play that.
This is a different series

>>718857261
Anon, what the fuck is a wook?

>>718857559
>Does this really happen?
yes, as you age, your physical reaction speeds go down.
you should be able to make up for this handicap by increasing your strategy, predict where your enemy is going to be, and aim that direction before they get there.

>>718857559
I'm 31 and still dominate so I hope not.

I don't play FPS games because everyone cheats in the genre.
I do like some of the niche and unknown ones since cheaters aren't common.
It's primarily the mainstream slop full of cheaters

>>718857646
>you should be able to make up for this handicap by increasing your strategy, predict where your enemy is going to be, and aim that direction before they get there.
Experience always trumps youth, doesn't it?

>>718857662
It’s a cliff drop. My aiming was the best, always at the top score. Now I can barely keep up. I actually pretty much retired, playing single player games or hero shooter that don’t require aim as much.

>>718857559
Opposite, aim has gotten way better. Now I play on extremely high mouse sensitivity, but crank the game sensitivity way lower, so I get sub pixel granularity. I have a much bigger mouse pad so the actual sensitivity is lower, and my monitor is way bigger.

>>718857662
It’s shitter cope anon.

>>718857816
Just wait til you get in your forties. It happened to me, it will happen to you.

>>718856738 (OP)
Movement speed in the game was absolutely fucking awful, way, way too fast. This is a great change and needed to happen. The faggots crying about it should shut the fuck up. """"Movement"""" literally destroyed COD.

>>718857690
Battlefield 6 beta had zero cheaters. You missed out, bro.

>>718857903
How many miles a week do you run? Or what other physical exercise do you do routinely?

>>718857915
bait used to be believable

>>718856912
fpbp

>>718857749
>Experience always trumps youth, doesn't it?
somewhat.
you won't top the score charts, but your kdr will be good. you know what fights to avoid.
i'm not wasting 5 minutes juking out from behind 1 corner trying to snipe 1 faggot like we're in counterstrike source.
I'm thinking about the tide of the battle and where i can make a difference

>>718857903
I drink water.

>>718857559
No.

>>718857915
lol

It was full of cheaters, no clue what you're talking about. In fact, it had more cheaters than it probably would have if not for people intentionally trying to dab on EA's garbage new anti-cheat and secure boot nonsense.

>>718857559
I think my reaction speed is still fine. My problem is that I can't put in the hours I used to on competitive games because I get tired of it after an hour or two now. It's just too mentally exhausting. I have to go play something calmer.
t. 40s anon

>>718856912
>it isn't fun to play against
Yeah, because you're getting dunked on like a little bitch. If you don't want to get humbled stay away from multiplayer games and stick to your rollslop, gacha or gooner games.

>>718856738 (OP)
I'm confused: do Battlefield fans really think they aren't the same kind of slop loving niggers as CoD fans? The series has always been for shitters that weren't good enough to play the real war games.

>>718857749
well yeah the only people contending old vets are still the younger ones who push themselves to be competitive. These games still belong to the top 5% who aspire to be good beyond the single player limitation. A group of younger competitive players should smoke a group of older ones though unless they try to push through obvious kill angles / corridors.

The movement complaints though are silly because the game is battlefield. There were other games like Titanfall 2 that catered to the fast pace and they died off because these casual try hards got filtered by the top competitive 1%.

I've had zoomers unironically argue that longer TTK takes less skill than shorter TTK. They cannot grasp that the TTK which demands higher average precision takes more skill. Zoomers are all "flashy twitch shit" on screen and confuse that with skill expression.

>>718858198
Battlefield is arcadey slop compared to actual milsims, sure. But it's always been slower and more methodical than CoD.

>>718856738 (OP)
UHMMM SLIDESLOPPING ACTUALLY RAISES THE SKILLCAP, ZOOMING PAST SOMEONE AND THEN UNLOADING INTO THEIR BACK WITH YOUR GUN THAT HAS TWICE THEIR DPS AT CLOSE RANGE IS SKILLFUL ACKSHUALLY

>>718856738 (OP)
Why don't these fast movement players not play games like quake or titanfall where moving fast is part of the gameplay?

It's always wiser to balance the game around the top 0.1% and then question why people stop playing it.

>>718858290
Meanwhile you want to lower the skill ceiling because you can't into advanced movement

>>718858419
because those aren't the newest hottest game their streamer role models showed them and they think every game must cater to them

>>718858351
>Battlefield is arcadey slop compared to actual milsims, sure. But it's always been slower and more methodical than CoD.

Remember when they forgot to program wind and bullet drop on shotgun slugs and you could run around sniping people across the map with a M870 easier than with a rifle?

>>718856738 (OP)
Just add a zoomerfaggot mode and see which version players gravitate towards.

>>718858198
The thing that makes Battlefield great has always been the armor. COD kiddies are the type to cry when they start getting farmed by 1 hit explosions. That and guild game play. Many groups of a 4 man squad of young players start crying hard up against a casual Battlefield clan of 10+ players. The later is how you play Battlefield properly - co ordination of armor and infantry at that level doesn't matter if you are a pro squad you will get fucked by combined arms.

>>718858419
>>718858502
Let's be real, no one fucking plays those games. Can't play a multiplayer game without other players.

>>718858419
because their enjoyment stems from being faster than the battledads so they can farm kills
they can't play a game where everyone is fast because it removes their advantage

>>718858513
Funnily enough, they have that exact thing active right now in BF2042, there's a Friday Night Battlefield mode that has faster movement, reloading, ability recharge, and respawn. In a game that's already way faster than bf6

>>718858419
Because it will expose their full mechanical capabilities and unless they have cheats / scripts they won't touch it. The LAN game play was a great filter of how awful some of these streamers really are without their crutches turned on.

>>718858580
Oh okay, valid point. How about you go play CoD then? You can slide around like a spastic all fucking day.

First and foremost the drop off in reaction speed is very minor. Muscle memory and experience still carries you well into your 40s.

Fighter pilots can still fly up until 45. Which requires far greater reflexes than 99.9% of video games.

Secondly, The 35+ demographic that are still playing video games and FPS likely grew up playing Quake and UT, while the younger generations grew up playing CS, Halo and Fortnite. All significantly slower dumbed down games.

>>718856738 (OP)
>zoomers say boomers can't aim
>used a controller for FPS
>uses aim assist

nigga has been seething about this for last the two threads, just lmao

>>718857559
No, I'm 40 and more skilled than ever when it comes to video games.

>>718858624
>because their enjoyment stems from being faster than the battledads so they can farm kills
And then they seethed when battledads just used explosives or tanks.

>Everything needs to be like COD!
Why not just play COD then? Battlefield was always meant to be more about working with the rest of your team/squad

>hurr durr just play ARMA
But there has to be a middle ground.
>grounded setting
>no movement bullshit like sliding and diving
>no crazy skins
>no vehicles
>no classes
>no stupid weapons
>but you also don't have to zero your scope
>you don't have to wait a full minute when you die
>you don't get domed from across the map by a guy you had no way of knowing he was there

That game has to exist. There has to be a market for a less cuhurazay CoD and less autistic ARMA.

>>718858727
Splitgate was a fun game that had great thinking mechanics and vertical gameplay. A shame about the 2nd one its probably going to be a huge failure. That battlebit game was a perfect mechanical skill check game. If you still had your raw reaction speed top 5 in your team was easy to maintain every match.

>>718858876
yeah which was pretty funny.

>>718858165
It's annoying, obnoxious, and gay.

>>718858795
Do you think Zoomers even realize that aim assist is a thing?
Most of them probably don't even realize that it exists.

People seriously believe your aim and reaction time dramatically go down in your 30s. It's comical, given how many professional athletes are in their late 30's, early 40's. I'm still a top 500 aimer at 30, better than I was in my early 20's.

Hey zoomers. If you guys have such better aim and movement skills why the fuck can’t any of you drive for shit.

On par with fucking 80 year olds.

>>718857559
This is something nerds tells themselves because they're delusional enough to believe they're athletes.

>>718858795
Honestly they should have old school aim assist mode. Where snap lock on breaks all the time since it would be small.

>>718856738 (OP)
Your large scale vehicular combat shooter sir.

>>718858953
They think with a controller it reflects their real skill level.

>over the age of 35
Only people over the age of 30 say this

>>718856738 (OP)
sick of shitters

>>718858976
Probably because driver education is awful in the US and zoomers don't have dads to teach them like the rest of us did.

>>718858502
I am getting annoyed with this. look its none of my business what games people are playing, but I already know what game my friend is going to be playing for the next week before I even check. Oh the zoomies are playing peak now. Yeah my friends are all playing peak look at that. Buy the flavor of the month streamer game and play it for a week. Money well spent. Has anyone come up with a name for this phenomenon yet?

Anyone who thinks you should be jumping around the battlefield should be forced to play paintball. I look forward to them bragging how easy it is to jump up and down slopes for 3 hours and that it made a difference. The only thing that has made sense is the sliding but that should fuck up your stand up recovery.

>>718859197
the natural order of things

>>718859197
you just said it they are called FOTM

>>718856738 (OP)
This is funny. I used to like bhopping in games more and didn't like it so much when games started intentionally removing it. Funny to see people complaining and wanting sonething similar to stay.

>>718859310
bhopping was good when it was a skill but we all know these retards use scrips bound to their mouse or some shit as a crutch.

>>718856738 (OP)
>every game *MUST* be a competitive match with movement autists dancing around the map
Go play Apex or COD.

>>718859454
>skill
>bind mouse wheel scroll to jump
bhopping was never good

>>718858453
Advanced movement just means "I don't want to think long-term about my position and where I'm going next, I want to run around and not get shot by an average player." The kind of nigger who thinks he's a pro for zipping around as Spider-Man in Marvel Rivals and that it's him (not Spidey) being responsible for why you're not dying.

Aiming downwards when an enemy is sliding will put your aiming reticle on them, pro tip

Nerfing movement is lowering the skill ceiling, actually.

These games weren't about 1v40'ing the other team. They're just not. They're about teamwork and working as a squad and being better than the other squad.

>>718859590
advanced movement means i'm good at the game and you aren't so you die.

>>718856738 (OP)
Multiplayer games shouldn't "require" skill to play. Multiplayer games live and die on accessibility. It's why high skill multiplayer games have their player base take a dirt nap after a few weeks. Because the casuals leave due to "skilled" players.

>>718859525
that shit doesn't work on anything but apex.

>>718859590
Players with superior positioning will always beat out zoomers that mindlessly zip around

>>718859718
Zoomers think the only thing that matters is kills when the whole idea of Battlefield is that each role is meant to fulfill a different purpose to the team as a whole.

>I want to be safe being caught out in the open because I can do a gymnastics routine at any time and matrix dodge bullets
Isn't the point of a military game to use your tools to deal with sightlines and chokepoints? CS already exists and solves this. If you know someone is holding a corner you don't slide around then slide cancel into a jump then prone then 720 noscope him, you just smoke him or use a grenade.

>>718856738 (OP)
I remember how when CoD came out the appeal was that it was NOT as zoomy and twitchy as the other shooters of that time.

>>718859525
>He doesn't know

>People complain about games like Battlefront and BF1 for having slow weighty movement
>Now people are complaining about BF6 for being too twitchy and fast
What do you retards want

>>718859713
Tie a rope around your neck and toss it into the skillceiling fan..

>>718859827
the beta was great you could hear the COD try hards complaining about getting farmed by people who were just playing casually and figuring things out themselves.

>>718859590
By "Advanced movement", do you mean sprint and all that retarded shit?
Or do you mean movement tech like bhopping or strafing?

>>718859945
Battlefield is supposed to be slow, tard knocker.

>>718859857
>matrix dodge bullets
Just because you're dogshit at aiming doesnt mean everyone else is.

>>718859945
I liked battlefield 1 but I imagine most people want something in the middle

No shit, it was basically call of duty with battlefield make-up

>>718859945
Something in-between. Arcady enough for fun but not twitchy enough so it looks like it's someone with adhd playing the game

>>718856738 (OP)
I dont understand why this is an issue. If you want the sliding trickshot flick gameplay play call of duty or titanfall 2 etc. Battlefield has always just been normal movement, run, sprint etc baring bullshit like dolphin diving in 2

If you don't know how bhoping worked.
Do not talk to me.

>>718859945
>complaining about BF1
BF1 was very popular and it appealed well to casual players. The one that complained went back to COD, they didnt even play BFV either

>>718857559
my left eyeball due to excessive dryness while sleeping over the years, the retina has degraded, this messes with my pixel-perfect aiming for long range gunplay, i take too long to identify enemies so im only above average at fps's these days instead of just decent.

>>718859842
Unc fr tryna rationalise his shitty k/d ratio lmao

>>718859842
check out those streamer clips and it's true. they only care about running around in small map killing people while jumping around instead of capping points, or reviving teammates

>>718860236
>play call of duty
but anon the next cod isn't out until november what are they meant to play until then

>>718860496
People in objective games not playing objectives deserve a special place in hell

>>718860695
>I don't play conquest
Do people unironically play a bf game and not play conquest?

>>718856738 (OP)
the same COD kiddies that killed the franchise multiplayer by zooming around like adhd crackheads now try to abandon ship and jump to another shooter? if you want COD so much go contain yourself there. not every shooter has to have the same fucking movement. genuinely hope these COD kids kill themselves from an overdose.

>>718859945
>>People complain about games like Battlefront and BF1 for having slow weighty movement
people will complain about anything, i actually liked the weighty feel in BF1 and i am glad is coming back

>>718858419
because titanfall fucking sucks

>>718860782
I only play BF for rush

>>718860695
saved, lmao
Titanfall's release perfected the CoD formula. Since aiming and shooting and killing is easy as fuck when everyone has an instakill SMG, movement is the only skill expression.
There's no reason to play any CoD style shooter if it doesn't embrace movement skill
(and titans themselves are way more fun than any CoD killstreak reward, helps with game pacing tremendously)

>>718858419
They don't like it when others can do the same they do. It's been shown time and time again. They can't even hit other cheaters.

>>718861072
every single controller shooter does this

nooooooooooo i cant play the game unless i spaz out like a retard the whole time muh skill expression!!!!!

>>718860782
i play BFV in asia server and alot of people (mostly chineses honestly) play breakthrough in community servers so they can kill alot with most the action being 1 or 2 points only. Conquest still have plenty playing, just not as many as breakthrough. People playing conquest also have much better teamwork
idk if other regions have similar playerbase

>>718856738 (OP)
I need much slower movement instead

why not just give people the option of playing on servers that have it or not instead

>>718857559
not exactly. you just become more lazy and don't want to give all your energy in every match

>>718859197
It's just FOMO. Normies in general feel obligated to play the current big thing because everybody else is and they don't want to feel like they're being left out of it.

>punishes movement
This ain't quake. You're not supposed to accurately air someone out mid jump.

>>718857989
>>718858121
someone having better aim than you isn't cheating
>b-but the tranny
had better aim than you and you're coping

>>718857795
>pretty much retired
you need to retire from life too unc

>make it an option to allow zooming around the map in matchmaking.

Result 1 : No one plays on zoom servers
Result 2 : non-zoom servers are full of people crying they can't zoom around

Can't believe what I am reading
Since when skilless niggers are pretending movement takes no skill? It always did and way way way way more than just point and click you do with aiming.


What a fucking mother of all cope is this?
Just say you don't like it and can't handle it, and want "Le tacticool realism" operator larp, and your brain can't handle rapid navigation in the environment.

>>718857559
Everytime I play some free2play shit zoomers and alphas infest I am top of the scoreboard and its always one of them dragging everyone down.

>>718858889
insurgency is basically this

>>718861707
can you teach me how to instantly lock on to people out of my fov and obscured behind terrain/objects?

>>718861962
It doesn't fit. Tapping a 400 BPM pattern to fire your gun would take a lot skill. But guess what? It doesn't fit the setting at all.

ummmmmm might buy this if true
ill waitfor a bit to see how it plays out

>>718862129
Yeah but it has classes and that's a deal breaker for me. I want to decide my own loadout.

>>718856738 (OP)
I fucking hate modern DICE, EA, and the Battlefield fanbase. The Battlefield games are not supposed to be about infantry combat, but vehicle combat. That's the entire point of the first game in the series: Battlefield 1942. The infantry combat in 1942 was janky on purpose and was only there for people to run to the next vehicle.

Keep the Call Of Duty and Battlefield series unique from each other. That's what makes them fun. Call Of Duty for infantry combat and Battlefield for vehicle combat.

>>718862720
>The infantry combat in 1942 was janky on purpose and was only there for people to run to the next vehicle
so what was the excuse for the vehicle combat also being janky?

The problem is that the game is no longer made by the people who originally made it and the largest group with disposable income to buy it aren't the same people who played it back in the day. Accept that most companies and games are different entities just wearing the iconography of what you loved. Move on anons, just embrace new games.

>>718862783
It was 2002(23 years ago). The developer did the best they could with the current technology at their disposal(computers at the time, their game engine, etcetera). 1942 was extremely ambitious with 64 players, large maps, and vehicles in that time period(especially with primitive and janky broadband internet back then)

>>718856738 (OP)
But BF fans told me the movement was perfect before they "nerfed" it... and now they praise the change?

>>718859935
The children yearn for quake

>>718858889
That was GRAW and Vegas and to a less extent COD4 and W@W.

Too bad zoomers and alphies weren't alive to experience when console shooters were actually good.

I like BO6's omnimovement, I like point blank fights turning into intense circular jousts and the aggressive speed of close quarter combat in general.
I don't think Battlefield should play like that though. I also think every class having access to every weapon is a mistake that's going to bite them in the ass longterm. Anybody that played the beta knows how quickly people figured out the meta-engineer play.

>>718862720
I agree but dice has long since moved away from this idea
Also the earlier games needed more effective ways to deal with planes

>>718857559
I'm 32 and better at videogames than I ever were before, and I¨'ve always been a gamer.

>>718861962
git gud slide slopper

>>718863229
I played half closed, have open weapons games. I couldn't tell a difference at all in terms of how players played or how games went. I've only been playing Battlefield since the Wake Island Demo, so I'm still a newb to the series.

>>718863190
I remember picking up the AK in the first level of Vegas 2 and wonder why none of the other rifles had better stats, then i realized that the AK is the last gun that unlocks. It's literally the best rifle in the game.

>>718856738 (OP)
I like movement, wallbouncing made Gears of War my favorite shooter. But Battlefield is supposed to be slow paced, I don't care if they nerf it.

>>718859857
>>718859590
Explain how quake/unreal players are able to easily deal with people traveling at mach speed

They should add Surf and Zombie Escape maps instead.

>>718857909
>t. grandpa

>>718858019
>you won't top the score charts
you totally can depending on game, like bf3/4 medics topping the chart solely from revive points

>>718864147
>calling some random stranger on the internet your daddy's daddy
How exactly does this win you the internet argument?

>>718864147
Yeah... how DARE that person not want to play Call Of Battlefield!

>>718863979
You're not penalized for aiming in arena shooters, not like military shooters where aiming down sights is a conscious action that penalizes your own movement.

>>718856738 (OP)
>i should be able to sprint with 60 pounds of gear at 25 miles an hour and slide around like a retard on ice

>>718863229
>I also think every class having access to every weapon is a mistake that's going to bite them in the ass longterm
As long as it sells them more skins they wont give a shit.

>>718856738 (OP)
The main thing is that back in the day an overwhelming majority of "movement tech" was actually unintentional and any normal player would call you an obnoxious faggot. Eventually they started adding these things into games intentionally and people wonder why they get called obnoxious faggots for repeating the same behavior.

What I find the most disgusting about BF6 is how utterly worthless suppression is. Health Regen? There shouldn't even be health regen above 50% let alone this faster-than-COD regen they have now. They literally created a problem and warped a completely unrelated feature into a halfass solution.

>>718862991
>942 was extremely ambitious with 64 players, large maps, and vehicles in that time period(especially with primitive and janky broadband internet back then)
Not really. Tribes 2 did 128 players with vehicles, large maps and physics simulation.
BF was more about the WW2 eye candy and letting you drive the tanks that Medal of Honor and Call of Duty only let you touch in 2-3 minute novelty levels.

>>718858715
Because nearly everyone is sliding around like a spastic and the fun isn't in the act of doing it in general, but instead the act of doing it against people who aren't.

>>718856738 (OP)
What was wrong with beta movement? What did they change? Is this movement why I got killed so rarely in the beta but also barely got any kills?

>played battlefield in the past but don't really like it cause it's so slow and clunky feeling
>see some clips of this battlefield 6 beta
>it literally looks like call of duty
>think to myself that's funny, guess they're going in a CoD direction after all these years
>see this thread and they're apparently nerfing movement speed
Well yeah, objectively it was playing exactly like call of duty. I assumed that was their intention but if it's not then yeah expect it to get changed.

>>718865124
Like shit like bunny hopping and dropshotting were things back in COD4 and BF3 but it wasn't the meta and didn't really give you an advantage to do it when most good players racked their kills up by just crouchwalking under control with an MP5.

they dont realize that not everyone has skill to pull good movement?

>>718863437
>I played half closed, have open weapons games. I couldn't tell a difference at all in terms of how players played or how games went.
I find this difficult to believe. Ignoring everything else the difference in players waiting for revives or skipping to spawn between conquest and closed weapons conquest was immediately noticeable.

>>718856738 (OP)
Wonder what angryjoe has to say about this...

>>718857979
A true gaymer doesn't run

>>718863437
>I couldn't tell a difference at all in terms of how players played
That is actually a problem of how they balanced the weapons. They're just ARs with different parameters. SMGs are weaker ARs with fire rate. LMGs are ARs with big mags and slower ADS.

I actually found that people had more teamplay in closed-weapons where open-weapons was basically just mobs of retards slamming into each other at terminal velocity until one side had too much brain hemorrhaging.

>>718865681
Call of Duty hasn't been like that for a while.

>>718858976
bet you those stats were similar in 2005 too

>>718856738 (OP)
Dice has twice made the mistake of catering their game directly to the ADHD CoD audience and the result was entirely predictable, their ADHD fried brains lost interest in the game 2 weeks after launch and they quit, leaving a game built for CoD kids that CoD kids didn't want to play anymore, and the BF fans didn't want that trash either.

Would be nice if they managed to dodge making the same mistake for the third time in a row

>>718857559
I guess on a personal level it matters a lot what your prior baseline was. I am exactly 35 now and I am 10x better aiming that I was as a kid, but that's not exactly because I magically aged better. I was just a Class A shitter when I was younger, I was 1:2 K:D minimum in every game I played. Now I am basically enver negative. Yes, not an impressive feat compared to hardcore pros who are like 5:1 always but for me personally that is drastically better than I was at 20.

But aim and reaction time aren't the same thing. I play slower paced games, so aim has less reaction component to it. I certainly feel my reaction speed is at least a bit worse than it was. Not terrible yet, that's for 40+

>>718857559
39, not really for me
but i unironically have arthritis so even though i have the ability to play at competitive game speed, if i'm having that much finger movement for ~20 minutes it's a good 2-3 days of hand rest and antiinflammatories after
take care of your joints anon

>>718856738 (OP)
i hate battledads and dad gamers. uncs just want an easy ass casual game and dont want any actual skill involved in the game. movement tech raises the skill ceiling and floor so much and people who bitch about it are just camping pussies. the game will fucking flop if they nerf movement and battlefield needs to take notes from cod.

>>718863229
>Anybody that played the beta knows how quickly people figured out the meta-engineer play.
What's the meta-engineer play? I only played engineer if I saw I could spawn into a tank or the enemy's tank showed up and needed destroying.
I did play a lot of recon with shotty or AR, combined with motion sensor it's a huge help on capture points. Was it something like that?

>>718866961
take glucosamine supplements anon, also stretch and workout more. But glucosamine supplements really work, i've been relying on them for a decade now.

>>718856738 (OP)
It's ok. They'll go back to CoD where they belong when Black Cops 7 launches.

>nerfing stuff that needs skill
fuck uncs

>>718867380
when you're older, you'll realise how utterly pointless and hollow gamer "cred" actually is. Its wildly inferior to even low-level irl achievements, stop wasting your life caring about being "skilled at videogames", play them for fun, lose your unwarranted ego.

>>718857591
Sniper. "Wookie" = Ghili Suit that basically makes you a "bush" so players nicknamed them "wooks" because they look like Wookies.

>>718867524
>aimbotting.
Cringe retard. Half the reason i barely touch fps games anymore, losers like you who unironically cheat.

>>718867637
where the aimbotting in my video doe unc?

>>718856738 (OP)
I hope these people just off themselves when they have a midlife crisis at 26

>>718867812
3 seconds in on the left and the very last kill, cheatard. Never post here again.

>>718858165
post stats gaylord

>>718867637
I've done this shit multiple times over the years of fps gaming. People who call this cheating are just shitters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYZFmW3k5-E
HELLO YOU ABSOLUTE LEGENDS

>>718857662
My aim is mid. Maybe I'm underselling it a bit. I don't play nearly as many FPS games as I used to though. I think HLL is the only PvP game I play nowadays. I'm more into solos or co-ops and have been for many years. Solo queuing into cooperative games is really rewarding, both when you find shitters you can help out, but also when you find other players at your skill level and you can just flow-state with them with 0 communication needed.

>>718867380
no
lil zooms shit and piss their pants in terror in a game where everyone is doing it, which is why games designed for that are unpopular. you and every other zoomer only enjoy it when you're the only one doing it

>>718868252
not watching, so that the EVIL billy doesnt get my money

>>718856738 (OP)

"Moving really fast while your legal aimbot does all the work" is a skill? Not too sure about that. But the slower movement should allow for more team work amongst the players. Kind of similar to Rainbow Six Siege which also has slower movement.

>>718857261

Just because the aim assist does the aiming while you are moving around really fast, doesn't mean you can actually aim. Turn off the aim assist or go on mouse and keyboard or use motion controls/gyroscope if you want to do actual aiming.

>>718857559
A lot of people stagnate at a pretty low skill level in early adulthood because they don't practice or bother improving, but then age into their 30's and blame their already low skill level on their age despite not ever really making an effort to hone their aim. In addition, I think games like BF attract a certain type of boomer who likes military equipment and playing soldier, but is terminally awful at shooters. They have a lot more in common with a Civil War reenactor than your average FPS player. These people typically end up filtering into milsim stuff like ARMA, where they can larp over the radio with other boomers who can't aim, but some of them are stubborn and persist in BF forever instead of crossing over.

>>718868252
>She quickly snaps back and forth
>She
Stopped watching.

>>718857559
I'm 44, on a certain game I used weapons with high spread instead of 1 tappers, the difference was that HS ratio was shit, ratio and rank was fine. Only problem is that I don't have a 3km long mouse pad, I'm on original MX518 that is kept alive by the first MX518 I bought on 2003? And random parts from other shitty mouses, I can't do flicks I just pray & spray through positioning and common enemy player behavior

>>718856738 (OP)
>Devs confirming they fucked up their beta stats to hoodwink COD niggers into buying the game
WERE SO BACK!!! MONEY GRUBBING RETARD DECISIONS!!!! FUCK THE CORE AUDIENCE WE NEED MORE PEOPLE FROM AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GAME!!!
>LOOK LOOK AT OUR SMALL MAPS FOR ADHD DOUBLE ADDERALL 13 YEAR OLDS
>NO NO NO YOU CAN't GET ON THE ROOF IN A GAME ABOUT WAR, THAT'S NOT FAIR

>>718856738 (OP)
Why don't these guys just go play Titanfall or Quake?

>>718869760
yeah had one of these boomers in a rush attacking match. he was 1 and 10, bottom ranked on the team yelling into the mic pissed off at us that we weren't covering the objective letting the enemy defuse the bomb. nigger, we are busting our asses right now, and your stupid ass sure isn't helping. it was funny though, takes me back to the old mic days

>>718857559
StarCraft pros who have been playing for 25 years and destroyed their wrists are still capable of ridiculous speeds. The top player is currently recovering from surgery for it. We'll see how that goes. When you practice something daily you don't degrade as much as the average person. This is why it's recommended to read/do crosswords or whatever the fuck to prevent brain degradation,

The skill in Battlefield is teamwork and dynamically solving vehicle/chokepoint problems with your kit and learning the map and power positions. Adding slide canceling and instant and spammable horizontal momentum boost button shifts the infantry gameplay meta way too close to nu-CoD and would further ruin the legacy class system and teamwork meta that BF has always been about.

>>718857559
yes, but it still stays sharp enough to be competitive if you put the practice in. Didn't simple have low reaction time when he was the best player in csgo? So your reaction time can go quite a way before it becomes a hard handicap.

I'm 36 and I used to play Arena shooters so if anything fast movement is a boomer thing. Slow, campy playstyles are lame unless it's sim style with high stakes on every death like Arma.

>>718857559
Nope. I mean maybe if you're a top 0.01% pro then maybe, I don't know since I've never been a pro player. I played games for fun as a kid and I still do so today and I don't feel any drop in my skills or ability, really. If anything I feel like I've gotten better over the years due to experience and more familiarity with all kinds of different game mechanics. Like I can play and beat games today that completely kicked my ass as a kid.

>>718868309
>Solo queuing into cooperative games is really rewarding, both when you find shitters you can help out, but also when you find other players at your skill level and you can just flow-state with them with 0 communication needed.
Yes, I completely agree, although I haven't played a co-op game in some time.
Which games are you currently enjoying?

>>718857559
I mean it's not like you're running around, climbing and crawling like back in bootcamp, you're sitting comfortably making slight hand movements at home. I can't see age inherently affecting your performance but in the most negligible way

test

>>718858889
I just want Arma but with good bots and actually decent feeling movement / huge production budget like BF

>>718858290
They are actually close to correct. At certain TTK thresholds (on the longer side), what happens is you create situations in which an unaware group of multiple bad players win an engagement against a single skilled player who had proper positioning, awareness, and aim. The highest skill fps games tend to be on the lower ttk for this reason.

>>718863979
Moving that quickly in Quake requires you to be in the air with predictable movement (less so in qw or cpma but even in those you can't make sharp turns.) What this means is if you're going fast, you're easy to hit and to punish, especially since all weapons do strong knockback on hit.

I found it easier to actually slow down when nearing combat so your gun is just out and ready. I don't know. All the slidey shit seemed better for getting away or taking cover instead of doing it right in front of enemies.
I've played since BF1942 and none of the movement shit really bothers me.
I have no idea what modern COD is like anyway, I remember Black Ops had the jump into prone thing, that's the last one I played.

honestly other than the horrible twitch clips zoomers posted I didn't see hardly any players in game actually sliding around and jumping like retards

I'm still glad they made the changes tho

33 btw :)

>>718874517
>I have no idea what modern COD is like anyway
this is from MW2022 and it has only gotten worse

>>718877427
I miss when dropshotting was the shitter thing to do, now we have stuff like this.

>>718859310
Counterstrike did this back in the day. 1.3 maybe? Automatic slowdown after jumping. I miss it.

7th gen niggers acting like BF3 was arma and BO2 was SWAT is just so fucking pathetic

You should have penalties to aiming like a massively increased spread for hopping around like a fucking jackass.

>>718857662
im over 10 years older than you
when i was your age i was getting accused of cheating
now i dont even play sniper anymore cause it's a waste of time

>>718861523
This.
>>718857559
Its more of an energy thing. I just cant care enough about a video game ranked system enough to strain myself.

FPS gamers have been obnoxious mega fags for nearly 3 decades now. Why would young FPS fans be any different?

>>718879468
It wasn't about movement speed rather jumping

>>718857261
>can't aim YOU CANT AIM - controller players who don't actually aim
LMAO

>>718856738 (OP)
I don't understand why the zoom zooms don't just go play one of any of a number of games that aren't hostile to movement "tech". Why does Battlefield NEED movement tech?

>>718859713
Battlefield is a game about teamwork, not a game about individual skill expression.

>>718862201
by being an autistic clipfarmer with absurd muscle memory just holding W playing like a retard for 20 hours to get 20 minutes of clips out of it.
these aim trainer flick montages are just like the 360 noscope ones. try 200 times and something will probably happen a few times.

>>718879468
>sprint
Retard it was about unlimited jumping, sliding, boosting magically into the air from ledges
Basically cancer.

im 38 and thought the movement looked fun since they are removing it i wont even consider playing this
>nooooo i want the gameplay to feel stiff
you are part of the problem

>>718882041
All the clips from BF6 are just shotguns which you didn't have to aim.
You could literally click a meter behind someone and they'd die
>durr buckshot
In the beta demo the shotgun was 10000% broken. Everyone knows this.

>>718882130
Good riddance go back to CoD if you want spaz gameplay.

>>718882130
bunny hopping and sliding like an asshole is not for Battlefield but you knew this.

>>718882245
imagine admitting out loud that you are a shitter who cant learn anything new

>>718867380
>Everyone elses POV

It's not a good battlefield game if I can't lay prone on a bipod LMG and snipe people from across the map like Battlefield 4.

>>718882310
Not every fps needs to play just like CoD.

>>718857559
Not as bad as you think. Most anons you see complaining about lowered reaction speeds on /v/ just have a vitamin deficiency because they live and eat like shit. You naturally lose like 10 or 20 milliseconds as you get older, maybe 30 if you're born with shit genes.

>>718867380
>FUCKING LOVE ME MOVEMENT YEAH MOVEMENT
>Never played Titanfall
Embarrassing. Kill yourself.

>>718882315
The t-pose always makes me kek

>>718882403
ok shitter

>doom eternal has some of the best movement in shooters in years
>people praise it to hell and back
>try to put it into a multiplayer game
>rigid stick in the mud assholes who cant stand to lose though a fit cause god forbid they learn anything

>>718861707
Tens of thousands of people got banned from the beta for cheating you retard

>>718861962
APM is not skill

>>718882842
>beta so successful you can ban tens of thousands and still have a playerbase
they still win

>>718882916
>APM is not skill
>literally one of the stats for high level RTS players

Doesn't matter. I will cheat on this game when it releases and there's nothing you can do about it

>>718857646
myth
i was a semi-pro cs player 20 years ago, and my reaction speeds are the same

>>718883147
why not just paly a single player game on easy iof al lyou care about is winning?

>>718883018
In RTS it is a skill, in fps not.

>>718883286
ok so don't get mad when you get your ass handed to you by someone performing 20 APM to your 2 cause remember its not a skill

>>718883364
I'm camping with an lmg and will shoot your retarded ass from far away while you spasm around on the ground

>Blaming zoomers for wanting twitch shooters
>Also blamed Zoomers and Millenials during the brown and bloom era of FPS games for making shit too slow

>>718857559
No. Zoomers just say this even though boomers grew up with Unreal while they grew up playing games with disgusting console peasant autoaim.

>>718866167
They fast travel

>>718883429
better have excellent aim cause if you miss you will get fucked up by a grenade while getting pelted with gunfire

>>718856738 (OP)
The movement complaint is strange to me, because I found way more success in just pieing around corners like always and blasting all the jittery fucks that kept jumping around corners without a care in the world.

>>718883709
because the people complaining about movement are shitters

>>718856738 (OP)
I don't play online PVP games like this anymore, because it has essentially been proven cheaters populate these games way more than online shills will have you believe.

However, anti-movement fags just want everything to stay the same as it was when they were a teen. Their old FPS classics did not prioritize movement like Classic Quake did, so they get filtered. The same way the largely same group of people were filtered by platforming in Doom Eternal. It is like trying to teach a 90 year old how to use the computer. They cannot do it. They will couch it in terms of skill, because online gamers are try hards at the end of the day, so don't let that fool you. They just can't do it.

Eventually, Zoomers and Gen A will find out what it feels like to be left behind though. They trash all my favorite retro games that crush their shit, insist modern demakes are fantastic replacements, and generally have low IQ takes. When the next generation treat their golden cows the same way, they will react negatively.

It is all an endless cycle.

>>718882883
how the fuck did we get here

>>718883849
tough men make easy times, easy times create weak men, weak men create hard times

>>718857559
no but I find it takes way more effort and it takes longer to warm up. but ones im warmed im as good as I ever was

I dont really give e a shit but how is slower movement higher skill? That doesnt make sense.

It's interesting that no one seems to be disputing that they're using built-in auto-aim with controllers.

>>718856738 (OP)
it's funny becuase 99% of zoomers are just as casual and shitty as boomers playing online because they're not playing 24/7

they literally all repeat these same talking points because their surrogate friend streamer friend tells them to

>>718884054
>get ass handed to him
>noooooo its just auto aim m not shit
good cope retard

>>718884156
>still not disputing it
huh

>>718884245
im disputing it by calling it cope on your part AKA a delusion

>>718883967
Same driving a giant oil tanker requires more skill than a canoe. Slower movement means mistakes are less forgiving.

In shooters, moving slow means you have to know the maps and strategize your movement better and plan better. You can't just run into an open area, take fire, and then do a bunch of slide slop to evade. You have to check to make sure it's clear or have coordination amongst your team. Defended positions require a use of more of your gadgets instead of slide slopping and 360 shotgunning everyone.

>>718883841
>Eventually, Zoomers and Gen A will find out what it feels like to be left behind though.

>>718883217
Its fun to make people rage and cry about it

>>718884451
god dammit i meant to put
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGrfhsxxmdE

>>718884451
Yes?

This obsession over what's more "skillful" instead of what fits the game being made is fucking stupid.

>>718884451
feeling bad does not make your whining more valid

>>718884517
The people that grew up with Battlefield 3 are getting treated like the people who grew up with Battlefield 2 when Battlefield 3 came out

>>718884624
It's just two groups warring over wanting their skillset to be of more importance than the other groups different skillset. Half the reason I hate online games these days is because communities will go to war to get the dev to make certain changes to suit them and them alone, instead of just sticking with the original intent and adapting. It destroys games.

>>718884441
By the same token, being able to post up and barely even have to adjust your aim to hit some slow as molasses fat fuck trying to move around the map doesnt really take a whole lot of skill either. I guess it comes down to whether you value tactical knowledge or mechanical skill mpre.

I'm 37 and I still dunk on little shits in any fps I play.

But most modern fps suck or are garbage/woke so I still fall back to TF2. If I cared I would've played comp - but I already had a full time job so no thanks

Sucks when the skill floor drops and no Tribes/BF3/Fear etc games still exist.

>>718884752
Wouldn't be so bad if community servers were still the norm: Developers get to make the game they want to make, communities can form around their specific version of the game they like more, win win.

>>718867524
Looks far crazier than it actually is because the video speed and FOV is cranked to 11.

Holy shit. PC faggots fucking forget how few fucking retards actually play m&kb only outside of 3rd world toaster friendly games. Even fucking Call of Duty before full cross play integration died on PC after a month.

Just make input based matchmaking the standard and have all these cheaters, wannabe streamers and pre-built PC linux zoomers separate from the everyone else.

>>718884979
Yeah but if devs arent in control of every aspect or your experience it decreases their ability to monetize the game

turn off rotational aim assist and see how many of these INSANE MOVEMENT GODS go 6/17 every game

>>718884979
100% correct. It is a fucking nightmare what has happened to the video game industry.

>>718883849
go with the times boomer

>>718868360
>mfw watching some zoomie get pwned at quake 3 because the aimbot doesn't work when you're rocket-boosting around the map and gets rekt by a boomer with a baseline knowledge of physics

>>718885037
>says the person who sucks at KB+M

>>718856738 (OP)
>not a single beta movement defender actually replies with a gameplay clip
They know it does not stand up to scrutiny.

>>718885164
ahh the good old days.

People like fast movement so they can focus on dodging while the aimbot+ wallhacks can do all the work for them. It’s how they appear “skilled” but got dunked on in BF1 because their faggot sliding got them killed

>>718857795
Yeah, that’s because 90% of players started cheating in the last 5 years. Cheating is literally mainstream now. It’s the norm for any pvp game.

>>718885104
>Tenet (2020)