Thread 718864002

>biggest resurgence in the history of the game
>zero threads on /v/
so it really is just neutral skip wifi slop in ranked huh?
lucy is fun

quick post a steam charts screen cap before everyone goes back to good games

>>718864002 (OP)
Did they implement gatling and instant kills yet?

>>718864002 (OP)
>so it really is just neutral skip wifi slop in ranked huh?
that's every modern fg, sf6 is literally about managing your neutral skips

>>718864002 (OP)
Cyberpunk Edgerunners is slop.

>>718864253
Lucy has an "instant kill" with full bar when the opponent is at low health

Fighting games are hard, I need autocombo

>>718864002 (OP)
Im gonna be honest, I have zero interest in this girl, what I really want from this game are better designs for the old characters AND a less butchered gameplay.
Also, the fucking wall breaks are stupid, make that shit disappear or make it more resilient.

>>718864350
at least sf6 everything that is a neutral skip is "reactable" with all the defensive options. strive is just constant neutral skip RPS -
>hmmm is this nago / gio / sin / ky / pot gonna slide / instantly zip across the screen and RC? better do my version first!
you can't tell me you're watching high level play in tournaments like EWC and say they're neutral skipping in sf6, these matches have been slow as shit.

>>718864421
That's an Astral Finish.
This is an Instant Kill.

>>718864421
that's not an instant kill that's an astral finish you RETARD

>>718864624
wall breaks are going to be in every arcsys game from now on if we look at the new marvel game

>>718864821
> That's an Astral Finish.
> That's an Instant Kill.
>It says Destroyed.
So, maybe its a Destroyer?.

>>718864821
>>718864839
if they instantly die after the move ends... how is it not an instant kill?

>>718864787
I've seen DR jab to make the punish whiff so it's still perma rps

>>718864821
I pity the Strivefag.

>>718865127
still loses to reaction super / DP to DR flash

>>718865047
Instant kills don't need special requirements to activate you just go into IK mode and let it rip. Astral finishes require 100 meter / the opponent to be at low health.
Now tell me which one works like lucy's.

>>718864002 (OP)
the community is a bunch of creeps and weirdos, nobody wants that stink on them. I used to love Guilty Gear but Strive saved and ruined it at the same time.

>>718865232
yea i still don't get it, seems like a weird semantic. no matter any time the move is used, the opponent instantly dies. just because the move can't be used at any point doesn't mean the move isn't an instant kill.

>hits a poke on a guy thats about to die
>DUDE I JUST GOT AN INSTANT KILL

>>718865184
so its perma rps when you don't have super meter...

>>718865454
Yes, sometimes you have to guess in fighting games
you can still layer your defense with things like PP, DReversal, buttons etc. That's why despite all the hate sf6 gets, the high level version of the game is so neutral heavy.

>>718865348
You could pull an IK in the first second of the round in all Guilty Gears, thus "instant", in the first one you could do it in the first frame even. If you need to deplete the lifebar to a third before pulling the super it works with BlazBlue rules and it's not instant.

i cant wait for lucy to appear in wuthering waves

>>718864002 (OP)
They casualized it too much, now its a fucking wank fest.

>>718865785
seems to contradict no?
You say you can input it at any time, but don't you have to go into instant kill mode first?
Didn't other games also make it so it was only available last round?

>>718865840
This.
The only challenge this game have comes at level 9 or at Celestial, with a character that is not Slayer or May.

>>718865785
Why would you expect GG people to know what an astral finish is if its not from GG?
When Strive 2.0 drops, every character is going to have Lucy's 100 meter kill, and it will be known as Strive's take on instant kills, so cope I guess.

>>718866113
or Gio or Nago or Sin or Ky or Pot or....
there's like a handful of characters that sorta resemble actual gear characters, then there's the slop

>>718866279
blaze-blue players smell bad

>>718865959
Not in GG.
In the first one you summoned the IK stop, and I don't remember if it was paper rock scissors or it had any mechanic on it. The one that killed won the match. It was that retarded.
From GGX onward you entered IK mode and gambled your super bar for one round. You can do this without meter and give it a try.
BlazBlue and many of the anime games after had the last round needs % left rules.
Hokuto no Ken allowed for frame 1 IKs only on the last round.

>>718866301
>Ky
>Gio
oh no i gotta block them mids

>dogshit anime character
skip.

>>718866279
It's not a real instant kill,
dilate

>>718866526
>block them mids
I did
by not buying this troony loons garbage lmao

>>718866526
did i expose your mains as degenerate strive characters?

>>718866825
Still is a form of instant kill and will be called an instant kill.
Cope.

>>718864002 (OP)
What resurgence nigger there are 5k people playing and the game is for trannies

strive is cool as a feel-good kinda game.
you just press these gigantic normals that cover 90% of the screen, antiair that last 10%, and autopilot your frametraps until you get a big fat combo (90% of the interactions) and mash burst as soon as you get touched

then you overextend into unsafe special and RC it to do it all over again.

i think i'm going to try nago next, he looks cool

>>718864360
>Steins;Gate shitter
Kill yourself.

>be average player
>only made it to celestial when I was super locked in and trying hard
>do placement matches in the new ranked mode
>somehow place Diamond 3
>now almost exclusively run into people who are around top 50 on rating update with their character
>have to do runback matches with them because the matchmaking is retarded
>most of them are tierwhores playing busted characters
I went on something like a 15 match loss streak yesterday
I am losing my fucking mind, every match is stressful, unenjoyable and I just get outclassed in every aspect

>>718867838
yea and moving through the ranked system is so slow in the game, its like 100 wins a tier

>>718867838
>I am losing my fucking mind, every match is stressful, unenjoyable and I just get outclassed in every aspect
that is just what ranked becomes for every single game that ahs ranked mode.
Why do you think so many good players make smurff accounts on fightcade for example. Not even them want to play their won rank.

>>718867838
>be returning player after like 3 years
>tower play is unbearable cause 90% of players are laggers from brazil or some shit
>new rank system drops
>takes 2 minutes to find one player with 3 bars
>10 seconds into the match it statts lagging bad to the point of fully freezing the game for 5 seconds in round 3
>game still thinks its 50-60ms and 1 frame rollback the whole time
Genuinely what the fuck is the point of having ranked if its gonna be less playable than even Smash Ultimate. Shit was nowhere near this bad 3 years ago, I was able to enjoy playing in the tower.

>>718866935
what's degen about gio

>tfw i gave this game many chances
>though they will make the game play better and add depth
>they instead made it even more braindead and even made execution easier for multiple characters with patches
I cant believe I was one of these coping retards with "wait for updates" lmao.

friend and I played 50 matches on Thursday, aba vs Lucy
it's fun and the game looks great
we're both returning players

how’s the new ranked system?

>>718869446
the game has zero chance of redemption. the flaws come down to the core game designs like wall mechanics and huge ass characters

>>718865348
>no matter any time the move is used
>just because the move can't be used at any point
You contradicted yourself. Something that can only be used at low health is just a fancy finisher. No different from a move that does a lot of damage. That is normally referred to as an execution across most genres.

>>718864360
>Reddit;Gate

>>718868860
Smurfing sucks just as much, I would just one and done people that were too bad in the tower because neither of us is learning anything playing each other

>>718868913
Lag has actually been ok for me, tower had some really bad connections

i am glad this franchise is dead forever after trooning out, its just like troons IRL.

>>718870042
>"Instant Kill" i.e. anything that instantly kills
Astral Finishers are also instant kills, so are executions (the things dead afterwards everytime right?)....
just like how a circle is a shape, but not all shapes are circles.
confusing concept for blazblue players i suppose

>>718870279
It's the highest selling GG game. Cope.

>>718870279
>more popular than ever
>dead
many fighting game players wish their games were as dead as GG right now

>>718870548
this
its the only other casually viable modern 2D fighter

>>718870326
Exactly how I think of it. If the move wouldn't normally kill, but then because you have 1 more bar the game checks if doubling the damage would make it kill instead and if so, it spends the bar and you get a new animation that kills.
Only makes sense to say the special move becomes an instant kill.

>>718869152
she can strike but she can also throw

>>718870873
damn...

What are the chances if Instant Kill Fatalities will return in GGST 2.0?

>>718871558
100%
my uncle works for tekken (who is adding Sol Budguy as a guest character next season) and he says he has an instant kill in tekken to match the new gg changes

Her super isn't an IK nor an astral finish. It doesn't need an install to be used and doesn't kill the opponent from any health range like a proper IK. It's also not an astral finish, since those can only be used at a specific health threshold on the opponent in the last round of a match. The closest thing to it is Dragon Install: Sakkai which isn't health gated like astrals, and only "instant kills" when the opponent is below a certain health threshold.

>>718871870
you misunderstand the nuance -
anything that has ZERO chance of failing to kill the opponent is an instant kill.
just because it cannot be used in certain situations doesn't mean its not an instant kill. there is no difference between "being within a health threshold" and "needing to activate an install instant kill mode / other arbitrary condition"

they are both instant kills

>>718870548
This /v/. Every new game is a flop that killed the series regardless of playercount or sales.

>>718864253
Gatling is in the game

>>718871558
They will return and function like Lucy's one super that gets different properties when it hits an opponent at low health while she has full meter.

>>718872118
That's only if you ignore the context of instant kills in Guilty Gear. In Guilty Gear, it's pretty established at this point that an IK is a cinematic attack that will always kill the opponent on hit no matter the health range of the opponent and is activated by entering an "IK" mode that locks you out of your meter as long as you're in it. The only exceptions to that general rule are HOS and Dizzy with HOS not having an IK at all and Dizzy not having an IK mode but requiring 100 tension to use hers. Even in Xrd where they tried to make IKs more practical to pull off by making them function more like astrals with gold IK, the general rule for normal IKs stay the same.

>>718864002 (OP)
>so it really is just neutral skip wifi slop in ranked huh?
you are booting up an arcsys game, did you really expect anything else ?

>>718865183
Oh how i hate that Xrd was just a few steps from greatness in the "We try to look 2D" department, only for strive to absolutely fucking drop the ball and look like absolute dogshit instead of advancing the formula further
Such a fucking shame. And even worse is that people will defend that crap by saying bullshit like "It tries to look like an OVA!"

>>718873174
>IK is a cinematic attack that will always kill the opponent on hit no matter the health range of the opponent
I mean, Lucy's full meter super does do just that. Its just that its an automatic activation rather than manual.

>>718873706
>no matter the health range of the opponent

>>718873426
what are you on about? strive looks great, its just a difference in art style.

Nah, Dizzy release had a higher peak.
And we already know the game is not doing super well for ArcSys. When they announced the 2.0 update some time ago they said their support for the game will depend on the success of 2.0
Not exactly the words you choose when you got a successful game on your hands.
Them doing a 2.0 for Strive already shows that the thing is currently not working

thoughts on the current balance of the game?

>>718873805
Health range determines the activation the move itself always kills.
I don't know why you think IKs would somehow make it into Strive completely unaltered when basically every other long established mechanic was changed in Strive.

>>718873848
I hate that strive sits in that retarded uncanny spot between "We try to look 2d" and "We are just making it 3D"
Compared to Xrd the animations are too fluid, the scenes for stuff like supers are way simpler and have way less spectacle and motion effects like that instant kill at the start of the thread, the shading has overblown to shit shadows and bloom out of the ass, the colors are not as vibrant, there's 1000 times less moments where you could sceenshot the game and it looked like it was just sprites like how it was with DBFZ and Xrd. Et cetera, et cetera
I guess what im trying to say is - it feels both overproduced and undercooked at the same compared to previous game. I'd rather they went full on 3D or stayed with Xrd graphics than this. If it was their first game in that style i wouldnt really mind it as much.

>>718874283
>I don't know why you think IKs would somehow make it into Strive completely unaltered when basically every other long established mechanic was changed in Strive.
I never said anything about IKs making it into Strive, I just explained that Deepdive isn't an IK or an astral finish and is only really similar to Dragon Install: Sakkai in how it functions as a round closer.

>>718874507
My point is that Deepdive is how IKs are going to be in Strive.

I think the ranked system is not great but it's still significantly above the low bar set by the tower and I like to play Asuka so I am enjoying it.

>>718864002 (OP)
>>biggest resurgence in the history of the game
the so called "resurgence" happened because they retconned a character into being trans
thats it. literally nothing else

>>718874196
idk, this just some random tournament?
It felt like 90% of my matches were sin potemkin nago the past few days of ranked if that means anything to the casual player balance

>>718874816
Mate that was like 3 years ago.

I haven't played since like the 1st DLC pass. I heard they nerfed Potemkin into the ground, is that true? Slide Head no longer having armor and being significantly worse?

>>718874946
and people are still arguing and talking about it

>>718874816
>the rent free town inside me

>>718875001
He was extremely strong last patch and they toned him down a bit accordingly. I wouldn't say he was nerfed into the ground, but he was brought down from the high he was at.

>>718875083
The "resurgence" from it is long dead.

>>718874816
This. It's literally Propaganda 101.

>>718875085
im dont saying shes NOT trans, i'm just saying it was a retcon of her story


not like a bridget "fan" would know her backstory, lmao

>>718875001
Pot was giga buffed into being tied with a few others for best character in the game and has only just recieved some nerfs but I certainly wouldn't say they nerfed him into the ground, that would be Johnny who literally got his legs broken for winning EVO.

>>718875085
I'm not saying that she's not trans, i'm just saying that her story was retconned so they can MAKE her trans.

i doubt any bridget "fan" would even know her backstory though. lmao

>>718875001
>I heard they nerfed Potemkin into the ground
he was like top 5
>Slide Head no longer having armor and being significantly worse?
the biggest change to me is that Potemkin no longer has two insane anti-zoning tools I can't contest and now I can just do strike-based zoning without fear of being hit with Slidehead

>>718875408
no way Johnny is dead, the only thing that really got hit is his movement, but it was way overkill

Nago is probably one of the characters that got hit the hardest, his mix got nerfed twice, one of his neutral skips got nerfed, and his pressure is now more linear with the lack of cancels on H normals
he's still good, but compared to the powerlevel he used to have he got hit

Ram is still absolute bullshit, and that gets me mad

>>718875496
He definitely isn't trans. He doesn't care about trying to prove himself as a man anymore, he just wants to be true to himself like how Ky is. If people still call him a girl then he won't let it bother him, Bridget is just Bridget now.
And no, the twitter pressured statement to save themselves from a PR disaster doesn't change that.