Thread 718867498

Why did Nintendo ask Sakurai to make a baby racer that people will get bored of after a few hours rather than Smash Bros 6?

>>718867498 (OP)
>rather than Smash Bros 6
>rather than
That's naive.

Nintendo didn't ask Sakurai to make it, Sakurai asked Nintendo to make it

the story presented by sakurai does not add up

>>718867707
he literally said that Nintendo approached him to make it in the Diract.

>>718867498 (OP)
Because not everything in life is about money.

>>718867498 (OP)
Because Ultimate was carried by its huge roster and was full of stupid ideas and decisions so they figured that if he works on something other than Smash then the next Smash might be good

He probably said no to Smash 6, so they tried to offer him a break with an Air Ride sequel instead. Better than allowing him to outright retire I guess. Otherwise I don't know why Nintendo would ever ask for it.

>>718867498 (OP)
Ultimate is as good as it’s ever going to get, so why not take a break from it at least.

>>718868043
Ultimate sucked

>>718867498 (OP)
City trial is really good and fills that nintendo fortnite sim thats trendy

the logical conclusion of your sentiment is how the industry got to where it is now

>>718868017
He's made games besides smash before, anon. Sometimes there's something in between smash entries.

daily smashtranny seethe general

I wanted to be excited for this, but the direct confirmed that I will not be getting a console for this game
>gay announcer
>gay specials (just reskinned smash Ultimate attacks)
>new machines look forced

>>718868286
Your hate of this game is gay and forced

>>718867707
yeah and your mom asked your dad to make you...

>>718867498 (OP)
It's a lie. Why believe him? Took him years to admit Bayonetta wasn't the most voted character

i never understood the appeal of kirby. who actually play these games?

I never was really interested in the first game because it did look like a casual simplified racing game, but this actually looks pretty cool.

>>718868286
Is it just me or has Nintendo been hiring really bad voice actors nowadays? Ever since Mario's voice changed, all of their English VAs feel amateurish to bad.

>>718868286
Paper Star's just doin its thing man

>>718868521
They never said Bayonetta was the most voted character, just that she was the highest voted feasible character. It was all bullshit though since datamines pointed at early groundwork for her months before she was announced.

>>718868667
Ever since Breath of the Wild, you mean.

>>718868521
He said Bayonetta was the most voted candidate that was possible at the time, meaning that Sora did rank #1, but Nintendo and/or Disney weren't willing to play ball at the time

>>718868734
That was 100% a lie, to be honest.

>>718868667
The new mario voice actors do anime dubs which are infamously bad.

>>718868176
Maybe, but that was back in the day when game dev cycles weren't painfully long. Ultimate released 7 years ago. Do you seriously think it was a good idea to delay the release of the game for another 4-5 years?

>>718868667
The modern "voice actor" is a mystery meat streamer with a résumé consisting of greentext vocaroos and tumblr comic dubs.
>why not hire actual professiona-
That's problematic.

>>718868448
I played Air Ride on the gamecube and unlocked all of city trial's checkerboard without the freebies they give you. I like the game but they could have done better with the sequel.

>>718868667
>>718869162
Isn't it Patrick Seitz?

>>718867498 (OP)
Because not every game has to be a sequel to a game selling 30 million units.
Smaller, less explored games are fine too from time to time.
I'm sure Sakurai is working on new Smash too

>>718867498 (OP)
The obvious answer is they don't want Sakurai to work on Smash anymore. Iwata requested Sakurai work on Brawl, 4 and Ultimate but this arrangement was always odd. Even Sakurai admits this in a video. Smash is a massive series for Nintendo so its silly to have it dependent on an outside director who is pushing 55. At the same time, Sakurai mentioned in one of his videos that he doesn't take a normal salary but instead takes a cut of the sales to have some investment in the title. This is fine when a game is selling a few million. But when Ultimate went on to sell 35 million, it became a big expense item. It would have been far cheaper for Nintendo to just use their own staff. It's not like Nintendo is hurting for talent. So Nintendo is totally fine having Sakurai make smaller titles and having one of their biggest be done in house like every other big publisher does. Current Nintendo doesn't mind having greener developers take lead roles on new titles, so they don't see it necessary to have Sakurai make Smash like Iwata used to

>>718868043
>>718868101
Melee

>>718869618
I feel like this is why namco opened a sub division to make nintendo games because of sakurai teaching them with smash 4 and Ult. Now theyre working on air ride 2 so theres a chance they wont need him around for every game.

>>718869618
Smash really needs a new director because I don't want a new game where Mario's moveset still doesn't really represent the games very well and Ganondorf is still a Captain Falcon clone and 1 out of 5 characters has a down b counter

>>718868904
Yeah, Charles never did anime dubs am I right

>>718869773
As much as I love Sakurai, I agree. It's clear he gets too into his own head and a "I did it this way before." At the same time, it's clear that he's added every idea he could and it's just "I want to add X character because I like them." While this may sound weird, I think Smash characters should be brainstormed by a team and not one guy. I don't think he's as bad as some people claim, but it's clear, again, he gets stuck in his own head. I think thats more of the reason he is weird about Kirby since he adds what he knows rather than looking at the series as an outsider. Same too with how characters are portrayed since, while he does a good job, its clear its HIS version of the character and not always how the character actually is. If its done internally, they can also get better feedback by the people who did work on those games. And its not like making characters in a crossover is some special skill. Crossovers like Marvel vs Capcom predate Smash. If the clown over at Multiverses could create something as kino as Tom and Jerry, then I'm sure the talented people at Nintendo can come up with a roster of fun and interesting characters. It will be different, but different isn't bad for a game that hasn't evolved much since the early days.

As for Sakurai, I'd rather see him make Uprising 2 or a brand new series. He's creative enough and is great at game design that he shouldn't have to make Smash over and over. There are 5(technically 6) games to draw off of. A new team can make Smash through osmosis. Let Sakurai take a stab at a new genre or idea.

>>718870661
I'd like a more coherent Smash game because it's like completely different people designed the earlier characters and stages. If Link was added to Smash as Ultimate DLC he would have three menus and breakable weapons.

Sakurai makes great games and I think it'll be better for him AND Smash if he doesn't make another one. Air Riders is looking great for a gameplay and visual design side of things and isn't beholden to dozens of other creators he's borrowing from, and I'd love to see him try something new after that. His last brand new idea depending on how you count it was either Uprising or Meteos. I don't need him on mainline Kirby either, HAL is doing a great job.

Hope, fears, and expectations for air riders

>>718871808
Looks really good. My only worry is that Specials will get really annoying when everyone starts spamming what are essential final smashes

Is Kirby just the worst character in this game since everyone has unique powers besides him since they all stole his copy ability mechanic

>>718872121
Kirby is a true all-rounder so he can probably utilize a lot of different Stars, plus his recolors each have a different Special.

>>718868017
Because, unironically, Nintendo actually fucking understands this whole videogame business

By releasing stuff in various genres that don't outright flop, lose them too much money, or compromise their IP strategy they ensure people stick to their ecosystem

That soulless company is not your friend and never will be, but it wants to sell its products and get its IPs in people's consciousness

Offering niche stuff and not fagging out is an easy way to get consumers into your ecosystem and then fucking staying there

They knew shit like Bayo 2 was gonna struggle on the fucking Wii U
They still gave it the royal treatment, got the bitch into smash and funded 2 more bayo games

>>718872186
I think everyone can use all the vehicle types

>>718872186
>special attacks tied to recolors
Gay. Let me wear what I want while using what I want.

>>718872476
Right, but with balanced stats Kirby can probably leverage more of them than say, Dedede who is more focused on speed and weight. I think that'll matter more in City Trial where you can't just pick your vehicle but still.

>>718871808

>Hopes
More characters, more events, eventually more maps added to City trial for variety
Also, confirmation of local splitscreen city trial

>Fears
That those impromptu races and battles in the city trial mode will be overcentralizing since they are essentially risk free
That the actual racing mode will get stale

>Expectations
It'll sell well over time but will have a few select niggers and streamers shitting their pants eveyr day either in an attempt to pit it against MKW or trying to lambaste it for being different from industry standards

>>718871389
Agreed. They've gone overboard with fucking meters and bars. I think Smash 4 was the happy medium since, before DLC, the uniqueness of the characters are more in their moves and not some goofy comeback mechanic that they have to add. I also blame it on third parties because the Nintendo characters rarely have these problems. Even someone like Min Min is well designed by using the Standard/Special button in a unique way. Y'know, instead of another fucking meter.

>>718867789
It’s standard in Japanese culture to lie. They’ve made a billion movies and shows about it.

Because they literally can piggy back the code off of mkw. Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit

>>718872874
Dlc wave 2 was horrendous with thiss shit and also the overtuning on some niggers just made them disgusting to play as

Too many characters started feeling like they broke the rules for some reason

Kazuya and Sora in particular were too good for what they were, Kazuya makes Little Mac the most redundant character in the roster for example and Sora's physics and tricks are just dirtier, better tools than the rest of the cast

At least Hero depended on RNG and his swordplay was fucking atrocious to make up for it, the 3rd parties in wave 2 are basically all positives (and the sword bitches bringing back swapping waa just aggaravating)

>>718868017
they should have asked for a kid icarus 2 or kid icarus HD utilizing mouse controls instead

>>718873615
It hasn't been 26 years yet, give it another decade.

>>718869773
Even if we don't get a new director, I completely agree that a lot of characters should be revamped at this point. Characters like Samus feel weird when her moveset rarely reflect the many weapons she obtains through the series and she has remained identical since 64, Ganondorf being a Falcon clone in 2020 is an insult to the character at this point and don't get me started on all of the Marth clones, even Mario could use a new moveset that replaces FLUDD.

>>718873147
Kazuya is fantastic but hes held back by his execution and disadvantage state which is why you don't see many Kazuya experts, you use to only ever see Riddles or Tea in tournaments making the top bracket with him. Sora is great but I haven't seen many people argue that he's broken, hes got a lot of great tools but nothing in particular thats overtuned like the best characters in the game. Steve and Sonic are the only characters that are beyond busted and they have the results to prove it. They are the only ones where you HAVE to play their game no matter who you pick. Rob and Game N Watch are similar but they have some counters that can break through their flowchart, and Rob has a big frame that gets abused easily

>>718874678
As a giant Fire Emblem faggot I'd be happy with the Marth clones being condensed into one character, like what Hero got. The series has a ton of sword lords to pick from.

>>718867498 (OP)
it never gets boring

>>718874678
Sakurai is so goddamn stubborn on changing/updating certain things in Smash it seems, Mario still has never had the fucking Ground Pound, DK and Bowser still have generic animal roars instead of their actual voices, no version of Link can have unique specials despite there being 3 of them, Sonic has to have 2 spindashes, only one or two Pokémon have their shiny coloration as an alt, and various other things.

>>718875239
air riders is 1000x worse than mario kart. air riders was born on GC and died on GC