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Anonymous No.718881305 >>718881361 >>718881998 >>718882053 >>718883362 >>718883385 >>718883889 >>718884242 >>718884321 >>718884483 >>718884957 >>718886005 >>718886346 >>718887435 >>718887742 >>718890237 >>718893384 >>718893764 >>718894374 >>718896842 >>718899094 >>718900839 >>718900905 >>718902276 >>718902763 >>718902998 >>718903075 >>718903338 >>718907317
>just change your thermal paste bro it will make your games faster
Anonymous No.718881361 >>718881415 >>718881559 >>718882050 >>718882812 >>718883031 >>718883083 >>718884021 >>718884050 >>718885725 >>718885860 >>718886008 >>718889172 >>718895603 >>718899094 >>718900195 >>718900905 >>718905478 >>718907317 >>718908665
>>718881305 (OP)
>i haven't changed my thermal paste in 2 years

am i fucked?
Anonymous No.718881415 >>718883162 >>718889737
>>718881361
I haven't changed it since I built my PC 8 years ago and it's doing just fine
Anonymous No.718881559 >>718881790
>>718881361
Unless your CPU temperature is too high, no.
Anonymous No.718881724 >>718882306 >>718898281
I haven't changed my thermal paste since 2017
Anonymous No.718881790 >>718881912 >>718889359 >>718895875
>>718881559
what is too high? it's around ~35C idle and up to 60C when playing a game unless I set the frame rate to unlimited and then it can reach to the 80s, but i don't do that on purpose
Anonymous No.718881912
>>718881790
80 at high load is fine
Anonymous No.718881972 >>718882620 >>718882773 >>718883771
I'm thinking of going from an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 to an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. Should I bother?
Anonymous No.718881996 >>718882072 >>718894315 >>718896320
what does good thermal paste taste like?
Anonymous No.718881998 >>718882307
>>718881305 (OP)
I overapplied recently and the pressure from the heatsink made the paste get everywhere. Not even in my previous thin x-pattern application did it happen to this extent, only slightly. No issues after just wiping it off. But even then, I didn't have this issue. Why did you take the CPU out from its socket before cleaning it, you faggot?
Anonymous No.718882050 >>718891320
>>718881361
Yes, it's possible that the silicone can combust due to the thermal paste drying out. Fire hazard that has killed many gaymers
Anonymous No.718882053
>>718881305 (OP)
Most thermal paste is not electrically conductive.
As long as you don't got full-ham, there's no harm in getting it on the pins or socket...

As far as replacing thermal paste, as long as it doesn't need to 'set,' ie. warming it up as high as you can to induce a molecular change, it shouldn't dry out, albeit I acknowledge there are exceptions.
Anonymous No.718882072
>>718881996
Grainy fruit loops
Anonymous No.718882306 >>718884870
>>718881724
I haven't cleaned my pc out since I built it in 2020. I like the think the dust may bridge connections that make it all go faster :DD
Anonymous No.718882307 >>718883542
>>718881998
In their defense, pulling a CPU out of an AM4 socket while removing the cooler isn't uncommon.

You can try to warm up the paste, and/or twist the cooler as you're pulling it off, otherwise it's easy enough to pry off the CPU from the cooler with a flat head screwdriver.
Anonymous No.718882330 >>718882483 >>718882653 >>718886604 >>718886817 >>718887863 >>718891547 >>718894207 >>718894414 >>718894520
Anonymous No.718882435
Do some people really change it like once or year or something? Are they retarded?
Anonymous No.718882483 >>718882572
>>718882330
oh no he didnt. aint no way he put thermal pasta between his cpu and socket!!! no hecking way in hell he literally did that xD

good image sir. very hilarios!
Anonymous No.718882572 >>718882672 >>718882806 >>718883558 >>718883996 >>718885071 >>718893754 >>718900306
>>718882483
thanks, friend!
here, have a video for your courteous response!
Anonymous No.718882620 >>718882810 >>718886352
>>718881972
No unless you get X3D
Anonymous No.718882653 >>718892694
>>718882330
How the h*ck does that happen? Almost made me panic remove my entire 120 SE to check if it could have actually happened since I overapplied, but that looks deliberate. I didn't know sockets created some sort of vacuum that sucked the paste through the CPU. But in that case, the issue would have already happened regardless of whether or not he repasted.
Anonymous No.718882672
>>718882572
>assembled in Malaysia
No wonder it cooked
Anonymous No.718882773 >>718885673
>>718881972
Would you consider a 10% increase be worth the cost?
Anonymous No.718882806 >>718883053
>>718882572
>that ancient anti-AMD propaganda
Anonymous No.718882810 >>718884321 >>718885869
>>718882620
Except X3D is a pain to cool, especially on AM4.

They're better off just saving money for a completely new built than incremental upgrades on a dead platform.
Anonymous No.718882812 >>718882951 >>718883162 >>718883443 >>718884021 >>718885102 >>718900234 >>718900538
>>718881361
It's only an issue if you're irresponsible and don't lower your graphics when you're not using them. For example playing a demanding MMO but all you're doing is idling not doing shit for hours, your graphics should be on potato mode so your PC doesn't have to work hard. Going AFK for long periods in demanding single player games, playing a demanding game for like 8 hours straight etc.
Anonymous No.718882867 >>718887946
Anonymous No.718882951
>>718882812
My old PC was over 10 years old and I NEVER replaced my paste once. I was afking in MMO's at all time and never shut down my computer.
Anonymous No.718883031 >>718896435
>>718881361
I haven't changed mine in 6 years and nothing bad has hap
Anonymous No.718883034 >>718891043 >>718894160 >>718903540
Anonymous No.718883053 >>718894350
>>718882806
>remove heatsink
>chip gets very hot, very quickly
Who knew?!
Anonymous No.718883083
>>718881361
Anonymous No.718883162
>>718881415
same
>>718882812
Most retarded take I've seen in years
Anonymous No.718883189 >>718883290 >>718883647 >>718889571 >>718892219 >>718894264 >>718907746
Why did technology never advance past the need to cool CPUs?
Anonymous No.718883259
I have never applied thermal paste beyond what is included on the cpu cooler for the 13 or so years ive been pc gayming and I've never had an issue
Anonymous No.718883290 >>718883995 >>718885847 >>718887326 >>718894406 >>718900243 >>718908785
>>718883189
because its an insurmountable wall
Anonymous No.718883362
>>718881305 (OP)
You need to reapply thermal paste after a while, yes.
Anonymous No.718883385
>>718881305 (OP)
>he doesn't have alcohol handy
even 96% ethyl works. your fault for being a cheap ngger
Anonymous No.718883443 >>718886708
>>718882812
This is acutally the opposite of the case. Unless your reaching dangerous thermal levels, the act of taking breaks actually puts more stress on your hardware than being constantly at full use because the process of heating up and then cooling to room temperature back and fourth causes physical stress from thermal expansion and contraction.
Anonymous No.718883542
>>718882307
Happened to me, piece of shit paste. Next time I'm blasting prime95 for a fucking hour.
Anonymous No.718883558
>>718882572
>370F
that shit is fucking cooked
Anonymous No.718883562 >>718887432 >>718899673
Anonymous No.718883647 >>718883747
>>718883189
putting energy into thing = heat
lots of energy = lots of heat
no energy = no gayming
do you see the issue?
Anonymous No.718883747 >>718886906
>>718883647
Yeah, that's what we created science for. You find a way to stop it.
Anonymous No.718883771
>>718881972
>tfw also ryzen 5 3600
There's nothing worthwhile to upgrade within AM4. I'm also stuck with a 1650 Super.
I hate the fact that I have to sell my current rig and get a new mobo, CPU and GPU. I hate all the lowlife which bothers with second hand buying and how they try to low-ball me and how I need to let them into my house to test the hardware.
Anonymous No.718883868 >>718885729
I have been using the same tube of artic silver 5 since I started building computers, I'm on my 3rd machine and it just werks
never change paste unless I'm replacing the cpu/cooler
when I change mobo is for a new cpu socket only
Anonymous No.718883889
>>718881305 (OP)
>Thermal paste
I've moved to honeywell 7950.
Anonymous No.718883932 >>718886561 >>718887097
thermal paste does absolutely nothing other than fill the micro holes in the cpu and heatsink so they have better heat dissipation, you can even use a heatsink without thermal paste fine. Anyone who thinks thermal paste will make a huge difference is retarded
Anonymous No.718883995
>>718883290
>webm
>using the wrong tip
Natural selection of the digital age.
Anonymous No.718883996 >>718884092 >>718887290
>>718882572
this is fake right? if the application crashes how the fuck does the CPU keep getting load? from where? the application is terminated.
Anonymous No.718884021 >>718903940
>>718881361
>>718882812
>there are faggots, right now, running systems that don't have at least 50% extra headroom for their intended uses

Holy shit.

>b-but expensive
5 figures at most. Get a real job.
Anonymous No.718884050
>>718881361
I didn't replace the thermal paste on one of my computers for 15 years. When I finally disassembled it, there was still a blob of moist paste. Arctic Silver is the GOAT.
Anonymous No.718884092 >>718886127
>>718883996
this was before killswitches
Anonymous No.718884242 >>718884410 >>718884585 >>718884638 >>718884802 >>718887220 >>718887231 >>718889930 >>718904015
>>718881305 (OP)
next time you build a pc use pic related

>drying out is impossible
>amazing thermals
>very easy to use
>no mess
>use it in your next build, it's reusable
costs bit more than paste oh no
Anonymous No.718884321
>>718881305 (OP)
Happened to my 5800X. Some coffee filter and isopropyl alcohol cleaned that up nicely.
>>718882810
Any Ryzen with PBO enabled will clock up to the maximum allowed junction temperature if given enough computational load. The junction temperature is the first limiting physical factor the PBO algorithm runs into. If 90C is too hot for you, just lower the maximum allowed temperature. That's all you really need to do to actually "cool" a Ryzen. CO tweaking just helps gaining back clock speed with the lowered physical limit. I get all core ~4600MHz at 75C and -15 CO when compiling Gentoo packages (the only time it runs into the limit) using a shitty Pure Rock 2.
Anonymous No.718884410 >>718889637
>>718884242
thermal pads?
might try on my next build
Anonymous No.718884483
>>718881305 (OP)
just spray it with isopropyl and blast it with air until the grease comes out
t. expensive camera sensor electronics assembler
Anonymous No.718884585 >>718885669
>>718884242
Arent there a limit to it though? Dont those wore out?
Anonymous No.718884638 >>718885057 >>718885087
>>718884242
>amazing thermals
Literally on the same level as $1 no-name chinese thermal paste from aliexpress, in other words as far from amazing as it can be.

>very easy to use
Without silicone oil, or some other liquid/paste that would work as a temporary adhesive, it can be a pita to install as it would constantly move and shit from even the faintest brush or a whiff of air.

>it's reusable
It most likely will get damaged in the process, so that's a lie too.
Anonymous No.718884802 >>718884898 >>718885087 >>718886561
>>718884242
false, even thermal pads dry out after a couple years
Anonymous No.718884870
>>718882306
I mean if you've gone that long and nothing has fried yet you're probably fine, just keep track of your temps
Anonymous No.718884898
>>718884802
Graphene sheets don't. That's not a thermal pad, and can't be used as a pad is it's too thin for a pad.
Anonymous No.718884957
>>718881305 (OP)
A pc is like a jengo tower, the more you mess with it the more likely it will break
Just build it once and don't touch it until you need to upgrade
Anonymous No.718885057
>>718884638
>move and shift*
Anonymous No.718885071 >>718885305 >>718885384 >>718893754
>>718882572
wtf anon, if you're going to post gore at least spoiler it
Anonymous No.718885087 >>718885430 >>718885965
>>718884802
>false, even thermal pads dry out
graphene does not dry out

>>718884638
>Literally on the same level as cheap paste
nope, and it's not messy so it's significantly better than any paste

>Without silicone oil it would be difficult to install
nope just do it inside your house
Anonymous No.718885102
>>718882812
>playing a demanding game for like 8 hours straight
You shouldnt do this? What the FUCK, shit is so expensive and you cant even play games
Anonymous No.718885305 >>718888073 >>718908923
>>718885071
Anonymous No.718885384 >>718887375 >>718893847
>>718885071
Anonymous No.718885430 >>718903593
>>718885087
>it's not messy so it's significantly better
I was directly addressing the thermals claim, you disingenuous nigger faggot. And with graphene sheets thermals suck ass.

>just do it inside your house
And don't forget to hold your breath the entire time. Without adhesive it WILL get displaced when you're trying to mount the cooler, even if you're doing it in a vacuum chamber.
Anonymous No.718885669
>>718884585
They even state on the site that it's not good for reusing because the sheet gets crimped by the applied pressure of the heatsink. If you just set it once and forget it, it's good. But if you want to switch CPUs frequently it's shit.
Anonymous No.718885673
>>718882773
It's far more than 10%. Some workloads can reach 30% improved performance. ZEN3 was much better than 2, especially because each CCX now has 8 cores
Anonymous No.718885725
>>718881361
I've used PCs with 20 year old thermal paste before. You're fine, just expect some throttling on demanding games.
Anonymous No.718885729
>>718883868
Yeah people still make this shit seem like rocket science when in reality just get something that lasts for the entire build and don't touch that shit until you upgrade. I still have the same tube of MX4 from 12-13 years ago and this stuff really last 8 years as advertised (and even longer in my case). Recently used it on my new CPU.
Anonymous No.718885847
>>718883290
>premature_ejaculation.webm
Anonymous No.718885860
>>718881361
Nah, I'll check mine every 5 years or so but that's just because I like taking my PC apart. As long as it's applied correctly, you should have no issues for more than a decade.
Anonymous No.718885869 >>718887473
>>718882810
>Except X3D is a pain to cool
PTM7950 + Phantom Spirit 120 and you can't possibly overheat the CPU. Slap a good negative curve optimizer (X3Ds can go as low as -20) and you'll never have temperature problems.
Anonymous No.718885965
>>718885087
>graphene
do you have any idea how fucking brittle graphene is? it's 1 fucking atom thick
you're full of shit
Anonymous No.718886005 >>718886156 >>718886315 >>718886336 >>718886378 >>718886452 >>718887361 >>718892694
>>718881305 (OP)
Just coat everything in paste so you never have to worry about it again. It's nonconductive so it won't harm anything.
Anonymous No.718886008
>>718881361
check the temps. if they are low you are alright
Anonymous No.718886127 >>718892986
>>718884092
My very first CPU was AMD Duron 900 Mhz, and one day it burned and melted the motherboard's socket without a single warning or sound. It's insane PCs back then didn't have any thermal damage prevention mechanism.
Anonymous No.718886156 >>718886315
>>718886005
wtf am I looking at
some laptop from hell?
Anonymous No.718886315 >>718886482
>>718886005
Wouldn't be too bad if not for the pump-out effect on the chip. Also the viscosity would probably change with high temps so it might start leaking out.

>>718886156
Looks like a GPU, are you blind?
Anonymous No.718886336
>>718886005
You my not like it, but this is what the optimal amount of thermal paste looks like.
Anonymous No.718886346
>>718881305 (OP)
Still salvageable. Just don't break the pins
Anonymous No.718886352 >>718886446
>>718882620
What if I want to photoshop too?
Anonymous No.718886378 >>718886576 >>718886904 >>718894861 >>718895935 >>718905471
>>718886005

you kids and your thermal pastes
Anonymous No.718886446
>>718886352
Then you'd have to install Photoshop.
Anonymous No.718886452 >>718886561
>>718886005
thermal paste is actually a piss-poor thermal conductor compared to a proper heatsink, which is why you're not supposed to lay it down thick. you're harming your system
Anonymous No.718886482
>>718886315
hey at first glance it looked like a hinged laptop until you mentioned gpu
I just woke up from a nap
Anonymous No.718886561 >>718888265
>>718883932
>>718884802
>>718886452
/v/ is full of dumbest fucking niggers I swear
Anonymous No.718886576 >>718887469
>>718886378
you a plumber?
crawlspace from hell there in that pic
Anonymous No.718886604
>>718882330
beautiful
Anonymous No.718886708 >>718887158
>>718883443
Your computer even while running a game isnt under constant load the temp is always fluctuating by 5-20degs also its not made of tinfoil
Anonymous No.718886817
>>718882330
It looks thermal.
Anonymous No.718886904
>>718886378
That's a lot of cheese
Anonymous No.718886906
>>718883747
Youre asking to break the laws of physics, sciende is to define them
Anonymous No.718887097
>>718883932
Its like a few to 5 deg diff which with some dust build up in my cpu cooler fins is enough to reach throttle temps
Anonymous No.718887158 >>718887997
>>718886708
I don't think you know what "constant load" means. Not that anon.
Anonymous No.718887220 >>718888606
>>718884242
I've used two of these kinds of thermal pads
>First one resembled a cloth in texture
>tore easier than tissue paper
>Second was more rigid
>Tore super easy as well
>Either one was nearly impossible to position correctly while installing the cooler
>Either one only lasts for a handful of re-installations
Just stick with pastes or PTM's...
Anonymous No.718887231
>>718884242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_54KsZYjzi0
Anonymous No.718887245 >>718887987 >>718903478
you don't need thermal paste
Anonymous No.718887290
>>718883996
What youre thinking of is cpu powerstates, basically undervolting/watting when not in use but if you arent using this feature you can stay at max regardless also the 0 state still produces heat, cpus run at like 40c fully cooled idle
Anonymous No.718887326
>>718883290
Is that liquid metal? That shit is fried if so
Anonymous No.718887361 >>718893359
>>718886005
This looks insane but would this actually be bad or simply wasteful?
Anonymous No.718887375
>>718885384
Classic
Anonymous No.718887432
>>718883562
reminder that "i have no problem" fags actually exist and insist their ignorance is proof of nomalcy.
Anonymous No.718887435
>>718881305 (OP)
Just get some paper towel, soak it with some rubbing alcohol and carefully wipe off the paste.
Anonymous No.718887469 >>718890870 >>718891197 >>718895281 >>718905471
>>718886576
was cleaning it lol
Anonymous No.718887473 >>718908631
>>718885869
>Proper tower cooler
You're better off using a 'regular' CPU if you're doing a SFF build.

Intrigued by the 9800X3D chips, but I'm not about to spend an arm and a leg for one of those.
Anonymous No.718887623
I have to play in my underwear otherwise I sweat too much
Anonymous No.718887742
>>718881305 (OP)
can't you just use a q-tip with some alcohol?
Anonymous No.718887863
>>718882330
Forbidden technique
Anonymous No.718887946
>>718882867
Should I use this to cook food in my room?
Anonymous No.718887987 >>718890246
>>718887245
Always wondered about this but using it as a water boiler
Anonymous No.718887997
>>718887158
Its how your mom describes my ejactulation
Anonymous No.718888028 >>718888190
People change their thermal paste?
Anonymous No.718888073 >>718890380
>>718885305
>cooling system explodes and scalding green coolant sprays out causing 3rd degree burns
ahh, reminds me of working on my old BMW
Anonymous No.718888190
>>718888028
I'm about to because temps are rising on my graphics card and it won't shut the fans off, even under zero load. But I also overclock and undervolt with a relaxed fan curve. So it's to be expected.
Anonymous No.718888265 >>718890713
>>718886561
>dumb retardo knows nothing about thermodinamics
but of course
Anonymous No.718888606 >>718891531
>>718887220
thermal paste is no silver bullet. pads are mandatory in some cases. mainly when applying heatsinks to VRMs and GPU ram chips. laptops are known to use thermal pads to ensure some chips will contact the heatsink properly
Anonymous No.718889172
>>718881361
It's quite likely that your thermal paste has turned in to a solid chalky, powdery substance, and as long as it remains a solid caked on layer maintaining the physical contact between the top of your CPU and the heat sink, it's fine, but if it cracks from any sort of shock like just moving your computer around, it could become totally ineffective. Check your temps while under high load.
Anonymous No.718889359
>>718881790
>what is too high?
When it starts throttling because it can't keep the temperature in check, usually in the 90s for modern cpus
Anonymous No.718889571 >>718890152
>>718883189
When electricity flows through things, they get hot. With CPUs and GPUs, the more power they use the faster they are. So if you want to make them not need any dedicated cooling, they need to use very little power such that the heat generated is tiny and can dissipate in ambient air directly without causing the device to overheat. But if the power consumption is tiny, then the processor is also going to be very slow, so if you want fast computers then using more power makes 'em go faster too. This is so far, unavoidable. Efficiency has been constantly improving but power consumption has also been going up, because people want the most performance they can get.

Maybe when (if) we get room temperature superconductors it'll be possible to make processors that conduct electricity without heat losses and as such do not need cooling, but at this point I don't think it's even known if this is theoretically possible.
Anonymous No.718889637
>>718884410
It's some sort of carbon pad IIRC.
Anonymous No.718889737
>>718881415
I swapped mine out after 9 years because I wanted to really push the overclocks and my temperatures dropped by like 2°C. It's an insignificant but noticeable difference.

Unless you're riding your CPU's throttling temperature it doesn't matter at all.
Anonymous No.718889930
>>718884242
>>amazing thermals
Aren't these literally worse than a random thermal paste? Sure it's just a couple degrees and not a big deal but you can't really call that amazing thermals
Anonymous No.718890152 >>718891236
>>718889571
The efficiency of a transistor is directly correlated with its size. CPUs got more efficient in the past because the size of the individual components inside of them was shrinking. Now that Moore's law is dead and shrinking the process further is really hard, the opposite has been happening - you can't fit more transistors into the CPU to increase performance, so all that's left is to increase the switching speed of those transistors by bumping up the clock rates. But that requires dumping more power into the chip which makes them much less efficient.

That's why the TDP of top end CPUs has more than doubled over the last 10 years and why the RTX 5080 is a 360W card where the GTX 1080 is only a 180W one. Performance is increasingly coming from just dumping more power into silicon that is very similar to the previous generation.
Anonymous No.718890237
>>718881305 (OP)
This happened because you use a lot of paste. For 30 years I apply pea-sized paste at the center and never had any issues. I don't even bother spreading it because it naturally spreads out when you put the heat stink.
Anonymous No.718890246
>>718887987
CPUs cap out at like 200-300 watts so it'll take forever to boil even a cup of water
Anonymous No.718890380 >>718890528
>>718888073
How hot do you think the water in a PC cooling loop is?
Anonymous No.718890528
>>718890380
I'm just havin a laugh m8
Anonymous No.718890713 >>718891534
>>718888265
>dumb retardo knows nothing about computer components
but of course
Anonymous No.718890816 >>718891624 >>718894087
Nothin' personal kid.
Anonymous No.718890870
>>718887469
what does cleaning even do here? unless you get the boards dry this will come back in a week
Anonymous No.718891043 >>718891153 >>718891218
>>718883034
i could wipe the cum out of my wife better than that
Anonymous No.718891153 >>718899372
>>718891043
DESCRIBE HER TO ME
Anonymous No.718891197 >>718895083
>>718887469
and this is why you install a sump pump pit.
because if you dont get a sump pump pit, your crawlspace can end up like this.

thank god i live in a dry climate and i have a roughed in basement.
Anonymous No.718891218
>>718891043
With your mouth, right
Anonymous No.718891236 >>718894892
>>718890152
You're saying some things that are certainly correct, but also certain things that are very wrong. It's true that shrinking transistors is harder and harder, but this has still been happening far faster than any increase in clocks. Clock speeds are pretty hard stuck around 6GHz and it's been a slow, slow crawl ever since they went beyond like 4GHz. CPUs that are 15+ years old can hit beyond 4GHz and in all that time we've barely managed to hit 6GHz. Clock frequency increases have been far, far slower than process shrinks in the last ~2 decades.

Also your claim that it's not possible to keep adding more transistors is just super wrong, that's exactly what has been driving performance improvements, especially on the GPU side where the things just keep getting bigger and fatter. It's true on the CPU side too. Have a look at the number of transistors in a 9800X3D and a 1800X, both 8C CPUs. Beyond that there's the increase in core counts of course, which is basically just horizontal scaling by adding moar stuff to the CPU so it can do more work in parallel, precisely because we can't make it go faster by pumping clocks.
Anonymous No.718891320 >>718896230
>>718882050
Real?
Anonymous No.718891531
>>718888606
I think anon is referring this shit that's supposed to replace your thermal paste and not dry
Anonymous No.718891534 >>718891739
>>718890713
>thermal paste is a PC component
do continue being a dumb sperg. you're only burying yourself deeper
Anonymous No.718891547
>>718882330

fucking kek
Anonymous No.718891624
>>718890816
>be scared of this happening to me
>try to peel the grey sticker looking stuff
>it was actually pre-applied thermal paste
Anonymous No.718891739
>>718891534
>PC components don't have thermal paste in them
do continue being a dumb sperg. you're only burying yourself deeper
Anonymous No.718892219
>>718883189
There are some that can run uncooled, but it comes at the cost of performance. Look at the Raspberry Pi, for example.
Anonymous No.718892694 >>718892871
>>718882653
>>718886005
Goddamn. All these posts about excessive thermal paste made me finally fix my application. I had overapplied enough for it to require several wipes and about 2 paper towels to clean off. While reapplying my old MX-4 from 2019, I reached a portion of the paste that was darker than the rest. It appears to have started to rot. However, my temps are fixed. No hot spots anymore. Just applied a thin X layer, even with the rot. Oblivion Remastered, Max everything, uncappped framerate, no overheating. Previously, I would get scared and compensate by turning down the room temperature or just pointing a pedestal fan at it.
Anonymous No.718892871 >>718893448
>>718892694
There is no such a thing as too much thermal paste. You had something else wrong with your cooling if repasting fixed it, badly mounted cooler for example
Anonymous No.718892986
>>718886127
my first build had a duron 600 that i borrowed from a friend, thankfully nothing happened to it and i was able to return it after i bought my own athlon a while later
Anonymous No.718893314 >>718893476 >>718893524 >>718893725 >>718893782 >>718893967 >>718894798
i cant find the screencap, but an anon on /g/ did some tests, replacing his thermal paste with commonly-found household compounds, and he found that thermal paste is a fucking meme
i remember specifically that toothpaste performed comparably to arctic silver
he even tried using his own cum, and it didnt perform that badly either
Anonymous No.718893359
>>718887361
achievable natty?
Anonymous No.718893384
>>718881305 (OP)
>I'm an stupid retard who can't do shit properly even if my life depended on it
>So that means it's everyone else's issue that I fucked up
Average consolecuck cope levels
Anonymous No.718893448 >>718893693
>>718892871
I'd say there can be, if the amount applied is such that the heat takes too long to transfer from the paste to the heatsink. What I had applied was enough that it oozed out when tightening the heatsink. There is no other difference to how I mounted it, and I had previously remounted it a few times. It's just 2 screws, no backplate. I don't believe it was mounted incorrectly.
Anonymous No.718893476
>>718893314
The benefit of thermal paste is that it will have the same performance for years while something like toothpaste isn't going to work for long
Anonymous No.718893524
>>718893314
I wouldn't call using paste itself a meme so much as I wouldn't spend a retarded amount of money on some meme bullshiit, but that's just fucking obvious
Anonymous No.718893605
>the average person is so uncoordinated that "put a blob in the middle of the CPU and then push the cooler down" is a herculean task
Anonymous No.718893693
>>718893448
When you tighten down the cooler it pushes out all the excess thermal paste so you will have just as thick layer of thermal paste there as if when you apply less. It's possible to mount a cooler incorrectly simply by not screwing it down evenly so it's not applying pressure evenly on the cpu
Anonymous No.718893725
>>718893314
Thermal compounds are designed to last compared to using something memey like toothpaste, though I did try using mustard on a old Phenom II for a laugh (worked well for about 10 minutes)
Anonymous No.718893754
>>718882572
>>718885071
that's not gore, it's guro
Anonymous No.718893764 >>718893920
>>718881305 (OP)
My thermal paste is non-conductive and still one of the highest tier in cooling ability. There's no reason to get conductive paste unless it's the highest tier stuff and you really need to shave off an extra 1 C.
Anonymous No.718893782
>>718893314
like your first reply said, it may work for a brief test, but try using toothpaste for months/years. thermal paste is all about lifespan/minimal degradation and also being non-conductive as well

yeah you can wipe your windows and mirrors with Simple Green, but you're going to get a haze unless you do another pass with water and lint free cloth. there's a reason why we still have dedicated "glass cleaner" type solutions; sometimes the general purposes does not meet the specific needs over time.
Anonymous No.718893847 >>718895960
>>718885384
thought about this video non-stop this summer while putting together my rtx5080 rig
Anonymous No.718893920 >>718894043 >>718894078
>>718893764
conductivity means electricity anon, not heat transfer efficiency.
dumbass
Anonymous No.718893967
>>718893314
You could probably use a couple drops of water and it would work really well for a short period of time until it evaporates
Anonymous No.718894043
>>718893920
The materials with higher heat transfer are generally also conductive
Anonymous No.718894078
>>718893920
Yeah I know, the last time I checked the best of the best thermal pastes were still conductive. But there are really good ones that aren't and you might as well use those and not worry about fucking up your hardware.
Anonymous No.718894087
>>718890816
if it works it works

>captcha: 2G0RX
Anonymous No.718894160
>>718883034
i vaguely remember this, i think it was an official MSI video lulz
Anonymous No.718894207
>>718882330
even this honestly shouldn't fuck up a PGA
Anonymous No.718894264
>>718883189
Same reason technology never advanced past boiling water to generate electricity
Anonymous No.718894315
>>718881996
bubblegum toothpaste
Anonymous No.718894350
>>718883053
desu a modern chip would have shut itself off with temperature protection. Things weren't as retard proofed back then.
Anonymous No.718894374
>>718881305 (OP)
this happened to me, i just left it like that. werks
Anonymous No.718894406
>>718883290
P=F/A motherfucker
Anonymous No.718894414
>>718882330
lmao
Anonymous No.718894520
>>718882330
I don't see the problem
Anonymous No.718894798
>>718893314
not the screencap mentioned, but somewhat related
Anonymous No.718894861
>>718886378
wtf is that gunk
Anonymous No.718894892 >>718895594 >>718896584
>>718891236
My 7900XTX has almost 60 billion transistors... and some people think this isn't interdimensional alien technology given to us.
Anonymous No.718895083 >>718900396
>>718891197
I fell into my sump pump pit, be careful around your sump pump pit
Anonymous No.718895281
>>718887469
>File name
Get a fucking license and do commercial hvac or something my dude, fucking hell. I'd straight up refuse to go in a crawl like that and I make close to twice what you do. Does your faggot employer even give you a respirator?
Anonymous No.718895594 >>718895736 >>718896187 >>718896651
>>718894892
indeed, brother
Anonymous No.718895603
>>718881361
I haven't changed my thermal paste in 25 years, shit still running.
Anonymous No.718895736 >>718902041 >>718908206
>>718895594
how the fuck did we figure this shit out
Anonymous No.718895861
yum
Anonymous No.718895875
>>718881790
Depends on the CPU.
Anonymous No.718895935
>>718886378
mmmm
Anonymous No.718895960
>>718893847
Do you worry about dying each time you get into a car?
Anonymous No.718896187 >>718896651 >>718900717
>>718895594
Pretty sure this is fake
Anonymous No.718896230
>>718891320
>he didn't live through the Great Pasting
Anonymous No.718896320 >>718896743
>>718881996
Anonymous No.718896435
>>718883031
F
Anonymous No.718896584 >>718898162
>>718894892
We literally just learned to print transistors tiny and kept going with the plans for decades while printing more and more tiny.
It's not that complex a concept.
Anonymous No.718896651 >>718896825
>>718895594
>>718896187
my impression as well, due to the texts, but what do i know
Anonymous No.718896743
>>718896320
always annoyed me that there's no little locking thing for the arm to go under
Anonymous No.718896825
>>718896651
I don't think it's possible to zoom in that far without switching the lens either
Anonymous No.718896842 >>718897842
>>718881305 (OP)
What am I supposed to see here? Regular thermal pate is non-conductive.
Anonymous No.718897842
>>718896842
I'm guessing a pin got fucked up
Anonymous No.718898162 >>718903327 >>718903887
>>718896584
lol we just learned it! from nowhere! imagine!
Anonymous No.718898281
>>718881724
I flat out refuse to change thermal paste because every time I open my computer case there's a chance some of the infernal demons that power it will escape and 'changing the thermal paste' is some planned obsolescence bullshit to let your demons out, and you know damn well who is collecting all the freed demons floating around
Anonymous No.718899094
>>718881305 (OP)
>>718881361
Haven't changed my thermal paste in over 10 years
Anonymous No.718899152 >>718899812 >>718900148 >>718904609
Thermal paste is for pussies, just make your own water cooling system
Anonymous No.718899372
>>718891153
Inferior genetic hair
Anonymous No.718899673 >>718899773
>>718883562
Every time I see this image I am reminded of the time a customer came into the pc repair shop I worked at back in the day with a PC that kept shutting off.
I did a speccy to check thermals and the CPU was peaking at 127c.
Somehow they managed to crack the heatsink mount entirely and the thing was barely even on the board.
Anonymous No.718899773 >>718899904
>>718899673
i can understand a broken mount, especially back in the day when it seems some of them were created by fucking sociopaths that made it as difficult as possible to mount the fucking things
Anonymous No.718899812 >>718899871 >>718902150
>>718899152
and use what as a thermal interface between the cpu and the waterblock?
Anonymous No.718899871
>>718899812
elbow grease
Anonymous No.718899887 >>718901469
Anonymous No.718899904
>>718899773
One of the legs was snapped in half. Boss had to take apart and clean the GPU too cause it was cake with dust
Anonymous No.718900148
>>718899152
thermal paste is for heat transfer, you still need it no matter what
Anonymous No.718900195
>>718881361
Are your temps bad? Because otherwise, nope. Depending on the quality it can last a decade.
Anonymous No.718900234
>>718882812
actual tech illiterate
Anonymous No.718900243
>>718883290
good job, Alex
Anonymous No.718900306
>>718882572
I can still hear it
Anonymous No.718900396
>>718895083
yours should be sealed and mine doubles as a radon system access
and a good check valve
Anonymous No.718900538
>>718882812
Everything about this is retarded but "demanding MMO" is the funniest part.
Anonymous No.718900717
>>718896187
it's fake, but the images are real
the smallest feature/dimension on a chip that we work with these days is 3nm right now
Anonymous No.718900839
>>718881305 (OP)
it should work just fine you don't even need to clean it
at least its not LGA socket, mobo pins are much more fragile than PGA pins
Anonymous No.718900860
ONE
FUCKIN
JOB
Anonymous No.718900905
>>718881305 (OP)
You'd have to be super careless or braindead to do OPs pic. Like a newbie PC builder would do this shit

>>718881361
Shitty thermal paste may last that long in the worst case scenario. Good thermal paste usually lasts 8 years or even more. Just don't use cheap shit, although changing your paste every 3 years usually results in better thermals on average.
Anonymous No.718901469
>>718899887
>that case in literal pain
kek, every time
Anonymous No.718902041
>>718895736
the fallen angels told humans how to make mirrors, make up and weapons. do you think those fuckers went anywhere? its simple another time.
Anonymous No.718902150
>>718899812
More water.
Anonymous No.718902276
>>718881305 (OP)
>all these posts about applying paste
Just use a cooler which comes with preapplied paste lol. It's not that hard.
Anonymous No.718902463
How did you managed to fuck up something as simple as applying thermal paste?
Anonymous No.718902502 >>718902625 >>718902634 >>718903305 >>718903393 >>718903954 >>718906095 >>718906918 >>718907154 >>718908159
Choose your fighter
Anonymous No.718902513 >>718902672
Anonymous No.718902625
>>718902502
I just draw a dick
Anonymous No.718902634
>>718902502
How does one even make the buttered toast pattern work?
Anonymous No.718902672
>>718902513
Anonymous No.718902763 >>718902830 >>718902865 >>718902886 >>718907374
>>718881305 (OP)
>CPU fan died
>"Easy enough fix."
>Order a new fan
>Clip on the motherboard is too weak to hold the CPU in place
>Thermal paste acted as just enough of an adhesive that the simple act of trying to pick up the fan violently ripped the CPU out, and bent the shit out of half the pins
>Ended up having to spend a few hundred extra bucks to replace that too.

Whoever decided to use those fragile little pins for the CPU deserves to be beaten to death. It feels like defusing a bomb anytime I've got to mess with my motherboard.
Anonymous No.718902830 >>718902854
>>718902763
there is so much wrong with this story
Anonymous No.718902854
>>718902830
Do tell.
Anonymous No.718902865
>>718902763
a friend of mine did that, came to me practically in tears for having destroyed his expensive cpu
i took a pair of tweezers and bent all the pins back straight again
it fucking worked
Anonymous No.718902886 >>718902943
>>718902763
I'm impressed you managed to buy such a shitty mobo.
Anonymous No.718902943
>>718902886
I went with what was recommended to me at the time. Nobody mentioned the limp-dicked clip.
Anonymous No.718902998
>>718881305 (OP)
show hand. dont ask how I can tell you're brown just know I can.
Anonymous No.718903032 >>718903119 >>718903205 >>718903245
AMD POLICE
WE'VE HEARD THIS THREAD CONTAINS SUSPICIOUS ANTI-AMD PROPAGANDA
YOU ARE NOW BEING MONITORED
Anonymous No.718903075
>>718881305 (OP)
I know this has been posted already but I aint readin all that shit n word, thermal paste isnt fucking conductive
The CPU in OPs image is fine
You fucking moron
Anonymous No.718903119
>>718903032
The biggest and shill on earth leaked that they are gonna release a new high end card with double the perf of the 4080
Anonymous No.718903137 >>718903201
There is no reason to use anything but the shit that is stuck on the fan that comes with the cpu.
Anonymous No.718903201
>>718903137
>Fan that comes with the CPU
Oh no... Anon...
Anonymous No.718903205
>>718903032
quite funny how amd went from laughing stock to the top just because intelaviv is extremely imcompetent
Anonymous No.718903245 >>718903601
>>718903032
Anonymous No.718903305
>>718902502
>buttered toast
Anonymous No.718903327 >>718903407
>>718898162
We learned it from making bigger transistors first. Transistors we learned to make from understanding conductivity and the theory of electricity. The theory of electricity we learned from observing the environment and living beings in it, like interactions between petting a cat and static electricity. This had been known for actual thousands of years.
Anonymous No.718903338 >>718904040
>>718881305 (OP)
embrace the thermal pad, lose 5C today, gain 20C in 5 years
Anonymous No.718903393
>>718902502
Three Lines/Cross seem the most effective.
Anonymous No.718903407 >>718903693
>>718903327
Engineering is an amazing discipline.
Anonymous No.718903450
>2020+5
>still using thermal paste
Anonymous No.718903478
>>718887245
hmm cancer yakiniku
Anonymous No.718903540
>>718883034
Anonymous No.718903593 >>718905329
>>718885430
maybe stop breathing so heavily tubby
Anonymous No.718903601 >>718903641
>>718903245
Anonymous No.718903641
>>718903601
That's him, Lt. Buckfish.
Anonymous No.718903693 >>718903839
>>718903407
It absolutely is, thanks to it we had gone from pulling wooden carriages to electricity powered bullet trains.
Anonymous No.718903839 >>718903915 >>718903946
>>718903693
Imagine thinking transistors were given to us by demons and black magic shit from the bible lmao. Couldn't be me.
Anonymous No.718903887
>>718898162
How did you learn to walk?
Anonymous No.718903915
>>718903839
there was a good episode of star trek voyager where they confirmed it
we all know that stuff in star trek becomes real later on
Anonymous No.718903940
>>718884021
My 4090 is maxed out tho?
Anonymous No.718903946
>>718903839
It's why I want to get violent with the low IQ masses. Their stupidity gives credibility to the stupidest ideas imaginable and in democratic societies there isn't a smartass king that can tell them "No, you fucking retards, that's stupid. Potatoes are not unholy spawn from hell. Stop starving like fucking retards and start eating them if you don't want to die."
Anonymous No.718903954
>>718902502
i just use pea and ive never had any problems whatsoever
i also do not replace thermal paste there is no need to
i think the rumor came from extreme overclockers or something which use special high end thermal paste that dries out fast due to being full of snake oil
just use the thermal paste that comes with your heatsink
i have removed a heatsink and plopped it back down with out replacing the thermal paste. the heat and pressure will optimize the distribution it will be fine. Of course if you are swapping out a processor or a heatsink cleaning and applying new paste makes sense.
Anonymous No.718904015
>>718884242
I just know that your prebuilt dogshit pc came with pads and you cope with shit thermals by trying to shill pads as anything but garbage that they are
Anonymous No.718904040 >>718904068
>>718903338
But I can just repaste whenever...
Anonymous No.718904068 >>718904126
>>718904040
yeah but you won't
Anonymous No.718904126
>>718904068
I do though. I even repasted my GPU.
Anonymous No.718904167 >>718904267
>cpu runs consistently 90+ under load due to shitel 13th gen shenanigans
Anonymous No.718904181 >>718904217
havent opened my pc in eight years and theres shit living in it, but also smoke rising from the top of the case. dont know what to make of it
Anonymous No.718904217 >>718904332
>>718904181
>smoke rising from the top of the case
Uhhh
That can't be good
Anonymous No.718904267 >>718904918
>>718904167
Anonymous No.718904332 >>718904376
>>718904217
it's barely visible and doesnt smell really. it freaked me out at first but literally nothing has happened
Anonymous No.718904376
>>718904332
I'd still take a look, this is a clear sign of electric failure in some component, even if it was non crucial.
Anonymous No.718904609
>>718899152
>SLI
and nothing of value was lost.
Anonymous No.718904918 >>718906370
>>718904267
did that ever get fixed
Anonymous No.718905329
>>718903593
Can't really breathe in a vacuum.
Anonymous No.718905471
>>718886378
>>718887469
Is that fucking mold and fungus?
Anonymous No.718905478
>>718881361
>starcraft “Yeah”
Anonymous No.718906095
>>718902502
How come there is no + pattern
Anonymous No.718906278
The only time I've ever screwed around with thermal paste is when I replaced the fan on my original Switch. You had to take apart a lot to be able to get to it and my original fan was rattling a lot so I did it. Had previously replaced the shoulder button actuators in my 3DS so I wasn't too worried about doing the open heart surgery.
Anonymous No.718906370
>>718904918
They pushed a bios update but it's still not guaranteed to fix the issue and if your CPU already degraded before the update happened it won't save it.
Anonymous No.718906918
>>718902502
Pea pattern is the GOAT
No you dumb pajeets and chinks will not tell me otherwise
Anonymous No.718906957
Anonymous No.718907154
>>718902502
i've been buttering the toast for 20 years
Anonymous No.718907317 >>718907596
>>718881305 (OP)
That spill probably doesn't matter as long as your thermal paste isn't electrically conductive.
>>718881361
I never change it.
Anonymous No.718907374
>>718902763
I just did that the other day, ripped it out crazy hard, no pins bent at all, and I used 20 year old thermal paste to put it back on, was almost solid, incredibly difficult to get any out of the tube, working fine
Anonymous No.718907596
>>718907317
You have to go out of your way to find electronically conductive thermal paste like liquid metal, the average stuff 99% of people buy isn't conductive.
Anonymous No.718907746 >>718907807
>>718883189
I never heard about Dewar thermal insulation (the same principle used to keep a coffee bottle hot) being used to keep a CPU in a cool state
Anonymous No.718907807
>>718907746
*Dewar thermal insulation through VACUUM
Fixed
Anonymous No.718908159 >>718908838
>>718902502
I did a cross for my build and it's worked really well. I heard that spreading the paste yourself instead of letting the weight of the heatsink do it can introduce tiny air bubbles.
Anonymous No.718908206
>>718895736
It fell on us in Roswell
Anonymous No.718908631
>>718887473
I like how you didn't even bother to look up what ptm7950 is.
Hint: it's what allows him to get away with a phantom 120
Anonymous No.718908665
>>718881361
you gotta do every 5 to 7 months
Anonymous No.718908785
>>718883290
>PC nerd got too excited with his new hardware
Anonymous No.718908838
>>718908159
Doesn't make sense, the paste will melt and move around with the heat.
Anonymous No.718908923
>>718885305
>PC build looks sick
>PC is actually sick
>PC pukes