Thread 719001614

Is DOOM 64 worth playing? How does it compare to II?

>>719001614 (OP)
Yes,Doom 64 is excellent. Imagine it as Doom 1.5: Doom 1 level design, the SSG, and a few of Doom 2's new demons.

It has all new levels but they're all ugly

It's great. The only bad thing compared to the original Doom is the music, especially this banger. https://fi.zophar.net/soundfiles/playstation-psf/doom-1995/05%20-%20Doom%20Rave.mp3

>>719001614 (OP)
It's worth playing and it's better than 2.

I recently replayed Doom I and II, played like 10 levels in 64 and yes, it's worth it.

The levels are much better than II's, at least in my opinion, even though some of them get a little too obscure when it comes to key hunting for my tastses, still enjoying it better than II.

The new sprites for the monsters are surprisingly nice, I like it.
My only complaint is that the SSG doesn't have the reload animation, that is borderline unforgivable and I personally have a hard time getting over it. I'll have to look into modding it at some point.
Currently sidetracked by playing the new Heretic + Hexen re-release but I'll get back to 64 eventually.

>>719001869
Yeah I'm not a fan of the music either. I see that there are lots of people online who actually prefer 64's atmospheric music, but I just don't see it. Give me heavy metal riff bangers any day over that.

>>719002093
It's because Doom 64 was built from the ground up with a very intentional horror vibe. Compared to Doom PS1, which uses the same sound effects and a atmospheric ost by the same composer, but haphazardly slapped over the original Doom, which simply doesn't work.

>>719002093
Dooms original music was based on Metallica, Slayer, Pantera etc.. Some of the most legendary bands to ever exist. Replacing that shit with some atmospheric drek was one of the biggest fuck ups they could have ever committed. Doom64 gets a pass tho because it's basically a completely different game with a completely different mood, even if the music is shit.

>>719002320
>even if the music is shit
It's not. You can prefer the rock music all you want, that's fine, but 64 has some of the best moody, atmospheric music in all of vidya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IE1NmyrbWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=figiPE6WGAM

As much as I hate Brutal Doom, BD64 V1 is the definitive way to play Doom 64.

Doom 64 thread? Sweet. I'll take any opportunity to shill this really cool mod.
https://pyspy.neocities.org/d64ue/

>>719002567
I mean it does the job; but I never finished Doom64 and thought about any of the songs really, whereas the regular Doom songs go around in my head 16 hours a day.

>>719001614 (OP)
It's just more Doom with some darker and more slick looking levels.

>>719002687
Well, yeah. I don't play the Quake 1 soundtrack in my head like I would Quake 2's.

>>719002567
I don't know man, these are all extremely forgettable background noises to me. I much prefer the style of the original games' and I wish they kept that.

>>719001614 (OP)
The music is kinda boring but everything else is great

>>719002714
Not just that but completely redone sprites for monsters and weapons, feels like a true sequel. In my opinion it should have been called Doom 3 as they originally wanted it to be.

>>719002754
Oh man Quake 2 has some amazing music, especially this one: https://fi.zophar.net/soundfiles/playstation-psf/quake-ii/SLUS-00757_QUAKE_A_01036401_0000.mp3

>>719001614 (OP)
Definitely worth playing, one of my favorite Doom games. I find the levels to be better than most of Doom 2's. The only disappointing thing is not having the full Doom monster roster due to N64 cart sizes. It's a different atmosphere and feel compares to the the first two games, but if you can get over that then I think you'll enjoy it. Also worth playing the new levels added in the remaster, I think they're the best Doom 64 has to offer.

>>719001869
>>719002093
imo the two biggest problems are
>pain elemental design
>some over-reliance of hitting a switch in room X which opens a door in room Y with no clear visual or immediately logical indication on what door was opened

apart from that, it's a pretty good game

Unofficial Source Ports > Doom 64 > Doom 1 + 2

>>719003143
>pain elemental design
What? It's the best incarnation of the demon.

look how they massacred my boy

Reminder that it's nu/v/'s eternal mission to suddenly remember the shittiest gayest most casual version of something exists then make a thread on it every single day. No video games to be found on this board.

>>719003320
Yeah it's a far cry from the meatball on the OG version.

>>719001614 (OP)
Doom 64 is kino. Seems to split fans a bit but I don't think anybody would say it's bad just a matter of how good it really is

This is so much disinformation and ignorance in this thread that it has to be OP samefagging. There's just no other way.

>>719003351
Thank God we have 40 year old anime posters like you to remind us of these things. How lucky we all are

>>719003320
>looks cool as shit
>fires two lost souls at once
>lost souls are also super aggressive in this game
>can spawn lost souls even if you face block them
>lost souls explode like rockets if spawned inside a wall or (you) when face blocking
>also pain elementals laugh at you

Doom 64 is a perfect mix of horror and shooter

>>719003220
my brain did strange associations because of the time period i played the game in.

i get where they were coming from, trying to differentiate the two meatballs, but the front facing sprite, which you'll be seeing most of the time, looks bad imo

>>719003442
Doom 64 is like a 1/10 game made by people who don't understand level or even game design in general. It is so incredibly mediocre that I have to wonder what you were thinking here. Additionally, no retail wad is above a 5/10. If you haven't played community wads you haven't played even a single second of real doom yet.

DOOM 64 is great
Made by Midway of all fucking companies
How did they do it?

>>719003462
He's definitely just frantically talking to himself and bumping the thread. And he's been doing this every day.

>>719003143
I like all the monster designs, they are of course nowhere near as iconic as the originals but I think they did a good job.
Yeah I think you described perfectly what my issue with the new leves are, this shit happens too many times and I'm spending way too much time trying to figure what exactly that random switch is doing, and most of the time it has no sense or reason behind it.

>>719001614 (OP)
What a strange and retarded thread.

>>719002676
unplayable on delta touch without graphical issues thanks to GL ES 3.2

>>719001614 (OP)
Please commit suicide immediately.

>even Doom 64 has a dedicated schizo
It's all so tiresome.

>>719003864
Yeah OP.

>>719001614 (OP)
It's visually very interesting, uses lots of dramatic colored lighting effects, but all the backtracking and scrounging around huge levels for keys is kind of tedious and antiquated level design. All the OG boomer shooters dated kinda badly, except Quake 3 and Doom 3, they're still banging

>>719003462
This is just so odd, he's so extremely blatant about it that it's almost hard to not see him doing it. This is the weird thread I've seen in awhile. What kind of complete moron glazes doom 64? It's just weird lol

>>719003974
>All the OG boomer shooters dated kinda badly, except Quake 3 and Doom 3, they're still banging
Way to discredit your entire comment.

>>719004072
They did though, backtracking for keys is just ass gameplay. It was fun at the time but not so much nowadays. Good for you if you still enjoy it

>>719004223
>>719004072

Better levels

>>719001614 (OP)
I personally didn't care for it. Some of lighting effects and multi-level map tricks are cool but it becomes a bit of a slog with the same gimmicks over and over.
>find obscure switch to lower platform that's at face level
>backtrack entire map to find key
>grabbing key teleports monsters around you
>every map has you fight hell knights in a narrow corridor
The rocket launcher, plasma gun and BFG just don't have as good of a punch either.

I liked it. Doom 2 is shit people just give it a pass because of the Super Shotgun

>>719003590
>Real doom
>Community wads
Take a bath

>>719005079
He's right, you didn't even finish the tutorial of doom, let alone actually play it. Take it to Twitter. This is lame.

>>719003351
>Doom 64 isn't a videogame
That's a hot take right there old man

>>719001614 (OP)
yes it's worth a play, just make sure to follow a guide to unlock the real ending because doing it "naturally" is stupid

>>719005307
um sweety, it's called x now...

>>719001614 (OP)
>Is DOOM 64 worth playing?
Sure, it's like a weird mix between Quake and Doom

>How does it compare to II?
Level design is equally shitty but in a different way. Also it's missing enemies like Revenants and Archviles.

PSX Doom is a way more fun and more complete experience IMO.

Doom 64 For Doom II is a cool wad if you wanna play 64 with the normal assets

>>719007043
You don't play Doom 64 because you want to experience vanilla Doom, you play it because it's Doom 64. Especially because anywhere you can play Doom 64 nowadays also already have the best possible port of vanilla Doom anyway

>>719001614 (OP)
yes it's a great game

>>719001614 (OP)
It's the best DOOM

>>719009649
He asked how it compared to vanilla II.

>>719001614 (OP)
Yes but be prepared for cryptic level design that makes you do shit like walk over a specific part of the map to open a timed door on the opposite side of the map with the only indicator being the quiet sound of a door opening, which you may not hear amongst all the other ambient noise.

Still a good time though. If you like Doom, it's good.

How many sales do you think it cost them calling it "DOOM 64", thus confusing people to this day into thinking it's another Doom console port, and not "DOOM 3" and ensuring the public knows it's an exclusive sequel?

>>719002676
that archvile looks sick as fuck

>>719001614 (OP)
Better than I and II imo. Better level design (there are set-pieces!), better visuals (coloured lighting!), and an excellent horror atmosphere.