Thread 719059448

Does /v/ like pinball?

Gay: Pinball game just trying to imitate a real life pinball table
Cool: Pinball game that uses pinball mechanics but gets rid of the table and does stuff you couldn't on a real table

>>719059448 (OP)
No, it's stupid.

>>719059448 (OP)
I beat Sonic Spinball when I was a kid so, yeah I guess.

>>719059448 (OP)
The only pinball game I've ever played is Full Tilt Pinball. The stages were awesome and very memorable. I still remember the sounds to this day(30 years later). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sfNlViSWVg

I played Crystal Caliburn.

>RNG makes the ball fall in between the flippers and it's impossible to save it
This is why they make money in the arcade and people can't hog the machine forever.
It's a great game design.
You can play safe and try to prevent that as much as possible, but playing the same pinball machine over and over does get boring.
I played the South Park one a lot and was pretty good at it.
Do you hold the button in hopes that it improves your Match RNG?

>>719059448 (OP)
Ask me how I know you're a Gen X faggot without saying you're a Gen X faggot.

>>719059448 (OP)
Yeah it’s pretty awesome. You’re not going to find much love for it here. /v/ is an autistic zoomer containment board. These people barely leave their parents homes or shower. They’re sure as hell not going to a public place to play pinball.

>>719062132
Go for it, shitposter. I wager I was posting here before you were born.

>>719059448 (OP)
Physical pinball, yes.

>>719061868
Since I've learned how to catch and transfer the ball, it seems a bit less up to chance. If only a little. Not sure what you mean by improving match RNG. Does that do something for world cup 94?

i probably play williams pinball fx3 tables more than regular vidya these days. nothing beats a real machine though.

hell yeah

>>719059448 (OP)
I'd kill for another Pokemon Pinball

>>719062850
Virtual pinball has spoiled me for freeplay anytime. But I'm getting bored of Bally Williams tables. I wanna play Stern and Jersey Jack tables. I kinda wish they'd get the license to put them in Pinball FX. The new Evil Dead pinball looks cool as fuck.

>>719062759
it's perfect for whittling away an evening without responsibilities. Listen to your favorite music or podcast, and just decompress with some ball smacking.

I'm looking at making a pinball game with some twists. What are the features you think are absolutely essential to making a pinball game work well? What kind of table features do you like the most? I'm taking a lot of inspiration from this game:
>>719063019

>>719059448 (OP)
Used to have a whole collection of 3D ultra pinballs. I'd play this level specifically to fap to this girl in Lost Continent, man what a hard game

Every pinball game adding a tilt mechanic is so funny ro me because you no arcade would ever actually allow it and always set the sensitivity to 100%

Yes. I have a virtual table at home because real ones are expensive as fuck.
Currently playing the Guns & Roses one, it's pretty good.

>>719059448 (OP)
xenotilt mogs

>>719062759
>get easy wizard mode in medieval madness
>turn on realistic physics
>get my shit pushed in

>>719059448 (OP)
Pinball in VR is so sweet.

I want to play a pinball rpg with stats and leveling mechanics

>>719065658
Epic Quest has leveling and gear. I think the Skyrim one does as well.

>>719062565
Using your age as a badge of honor is an honor is another thing millennials don't do.

>>719064259
>lost continent
>3d ultra pinball
memory lane trip there. Fond memories of farming continues on the default table and getting the rocket launch with the triple table win
also my disk's midi audio was bugged as hell so on the mine level you'd have to go into the audio settings and turn off music for a second or two or it'd eternally play a MAX VOLUME for the computer B3 note

>>719061364
Yeah, I don't get the 'realism' stuff. Pinball tables aren't exactly rare, unless you live in a cave you can probably find a real one somewhere nearby and the tactile experience can't be emulated.
Stuff like Kirby or Sonic is the way to go.

>>719061529
God full tilt is a piece of absolute shit. You can even see at 2:49 the magnet is misaligned so you'll never land any shots into the dragon's mouth. Space Cadet is about the only tolerable one and even then it's not great.
Full tilt 2 is even worse about stuff like this and is frankly unplayable. You'll miss so many shots you think should be very easy because the design feels like it was completely untested.

>>719065995
and I still don't see what pointing it out does for you.

>>719059448 (OP)
I was playing a physical pinball machine a few weeks ago and a kid was watching but he had to leave just before something cool happened, felt bad man.

What are some actually good pinball games?

>>719066724
In my little experience, it starts with the first machine that you don't absolutely suck at. For me, that was World Cup 94. I think that enjoyment of pinball probably varying depending on how skilled you are at the game.

>>719066724
Literally all of the Sierra 3D Ultra Pinball series games are top notch. Thrillride and Cryptkeeper are S tier.
Xenotilt is neat but kind of overwhelming.
Flipnic is cool but the physics are absolute dogshit.

>>719066724
Physical or digital?

>>719067059
Digital

There's a huge pinball museum in Alameda with a ton of tables. I played the shit out of pinball arcade so I thought it would be cool, but real life pinball fucking SUCKS. Nothing like pinball arcade. It's 100x harder. Pure electromechanical jewry

>>719067059
Pokemon Ruby/sapphire

I used to play some Thrillride Pinball on PC

>>719061868
>RNG makes the ball fall in between the flippers and it's impossible to save it
You can always save a ball with standard flippers. Lightning flippers are slightly shorter and it only becomes impossible to save if you have 2 dangers.

For me, it's Tee-d Off

>>719068972
Pinball lingo fascinates me. What is the difference between a standard or lightning flipper? What is a danger?

>>719064259
The later levels in this game scared the hell out of me as a kid.

>>719059448 (OP)
i need more

>>719061529
>Doesn't run on new hardware unless you perform black magic
>Only "port" is an unofficial remake for mobile that completely fucked the physics
I JUST WANT TO PLAY SKULDUGGERY GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.

>>719070887
Download Pinball Arcade torrent.

Pinball Arcade used to be bigger than FX till they lost bally williams license. Some goat tables like Terminator2 and nuStar Trek, Dracula you cant find on fx. You cant buy them anymore so thats why i recommend torrent. Also you can create an account and then use it to log into the pirate version, and itll still add your score to online leader boards

>>719059448 (OP)
I game on Demon's Tilt and Xenotilt.

>>719064259
This cracka know what's up

>ball goes dead center between paddles
>immediately ragequit
how do you deal with this?

how do you guys play PC pinball games ? Keyboard or controller ?
I bought XenoTilt but it doesn't "feel" right no matter which controls I use. I'm a complete pinball nub

it could have been good but it have an input delay for some reason.
Yes, even on the original hardware.

>>719071493
with a slap save:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMD60ZA7xH8

Yeah.

>>719071654
built this yourself ? looks cool but I wonder if it's harder than just using buttons

>>719071685
what kind of keyboard do you even use? A laptop one?

>>719071743
well I could use a laptop keyboard but I usually use an SK 8825

>>719071654
Whats up with the shitty screen sizes? All that custom pinball setup, mini table in the back, dmd with backglass and he doesnt turn his screen to be 9x16?

>>719071792
I really have no issue with my Filco.

>>719071918
could you tell me which keys you use ?

>>719071987
shift keys for flips
space, and Z and ? to nudge.

>>719064259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AOhv-V5_ls
This game was my childhood. Always tried to get to the bonus stage (with CG animation transition into different screen), rarely succeeded and I can't even find videos with it.

>>719070887
you need visual pinball x

https://youtu.be/9r4vV8gfTB0?si=uEFvsoDhGpCbW0xh

>>719071493
if it's ball one, restart game.
ball two, missed nudge opportunity.
ball three, did I beat my last high score?

>>719071654
I kinda want to get one of these controllers. But why would you invest in that before investing in a vertically oriented monitor?

>>719072220
what do you mean, investing?
Just flip your screen lmao

>Buy this (physical btw)
>10 tables, they're all pretty decent
>Look at DLC
>They don't sell individual tables only seasons
>Season 1 has 10 tables, season 2 has another 10
>So going by the fact the physical is named Volume 1, it stands for reason you should only need to buy season 2 right?
>*Loud incorrect buzzer
>The physical has 5 tables from season 1 and 5 from season 2
>If you want all the tables you have to buy both seasons regardless of the physical copy
>This means you are actively sabotaging yourself by buying the physical
>Email company "where is Volume 2?"
>They said it just never happened due to a lot going on
Please kill me, I spent $15 on this.

>>719072489
>Zen studio physics
and nothing of value was lost.

>>719072261
It isn't much, desu, but some of us are still using monitors we bought over ten years ago, when that wasn't a feature. It's how a lot of the PC master race can afford new PC's every so often. We don't have to repurchase EVERY part.

>>719072521
I've played Farsight pinball games, I'd take this any day of the week.

>>719072489
if your hurting over 15 bucks from a 5-10 year old purchase, you have bigger problems. Sell it on ebay.

>>719062629
>>719059448 (OP)
it's quite fascinating that from 1975 to the late 1990s it was mainstream entertainment you could find and enjoy everywhere... but today it's a niche like playing games on your PC was back in those times

>>719062759
>>719065590
did they update it or something? last time I checked was probably a year ago and physics still sucked compared to Pinball Arcade (although it looked better and ironically used less resources)

>>719062850
nice, love f14, atlantis, joker poker, jurassic park
wouldn't sneez on the bank robbery one and junkyard either (if you don't know it, check out Who Dunnit, it's in the same style)

well after playing Xenotilt again for a bit, it appears that my eyes are just bad at keeping up with the ball and I always react 1 second too late

>>719071654
with just a few modifications, this could also be an excellent h-game controller

>>719062850
Did that LotR one have a Balrog in the middle? My gym had that one and I could pretty much go infinite on it with how easy you could get extra balls.

>>719067215
Pinball Arcade
unfortunately they lost the license to the tables so can't buy it anymore, need to pirate it... but has only the best tables, like hundreds of them, it's insane
the license went to some chinese low-effort sweat shop cash-grab which makes Pinball FX3 and has like 20-30% of the good tables from Pinball Arcade but the rest are meme shit (like Marvel, Family Guy etc)
of course there are other games with specific tables and fantasies but they almost never take the issue of physics seriously, like the two I enumerated, nor do they serve you an explanation on a platter to the question "why people like pinball"

>>719072923
yeah, I play my pinball games with the official controller.

It's fun but I can't really handle the extra flippers in computer pinball.

>>719073089
anyone got the license for modern digital tables? Like Stern or Jersey Jack?

>>719062132
You don't need to be Gen X for pinball. It's addictive. Always one more shot.

>>719073185
Pinball Arcade has the Stern license
good news: you can still buy them on Steam
bad news: they haven't released any new tables since 2016 (Ghostbusters)... so no Jurassic Park or King Kong or whatever
Visual Pinball MAY have them available, made by fans, but you need to put in the effort to set up the software

>>719073102
haha what's that lump between her legs? Hahaha what happened to her penis haha

>>719073759
Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina.

>>719059448 (OP)
Love pinball, I'm not very good at it.
Favourite table is mediaeval madness

What are the best tables for beginners?

>>719075295
based

>>719059448 (OP)
Yeah Ive actually become obsessed with it
I think I like pinball more than regular videogames now

>>719075303
I dont know maybe something like the Champion's pub that has clear narrative objectives to what you are doing as you improve your character and its not just pure point chasing on the surface? (its still pint chasing under the hood though)

A modern table that doesnt kill you and lets you play for 20 minutes at a time will teach bad habits and might not let you enjoy the fast as fuck "its been 2 minutes and you already drained all three balls tables" of old that can also be really fun
Maybe try videogame pinball like pokemon , metroid or xenotilt before trying real table sims?
bee yourself

>>719070887
bro your Zaccaria?
Its the one I play the most lately

>>719075778
Yeah, I guess it really is up to personal vibe. I own the Champion Pub table (virtually), and I drain like a bitch on it. What I'd like to do is learn how to aim my shots more reliably. There's a few tables where I can hit one ramp or shot without issue every single time, (for instance the Striker shot on World Cup 94, or the shock chair mode selector on Addam's Family,) but then struggle with other shots. Any pro tips on how to aim more accurately?

>>719069287
dangers are tilt warnings, modern machines let you nudge them to save the balls up to 2 times per ball, the third time the flippers die and you lose the ball
Lighting flippers must be a type of flipper that is shorter and has a lighting design on the top, not 100% sure

>>719075295
Looks like a Hawkwind album

>>719075303
Sopranos Pinball was super easy for me, it's also awesome if you're a fan of the show. Some other good tables for beginners in my opinion are Medieval Madness, Attack from Mars, Scared Stiff, and Diner. I played all of these on VPX or VP9 with vpinmame, they were great.

>>719076089
Im not a pro but all you can do is practice either use art cues to know when to shoot as the ball rolls down the flipper or timing cues and remember than how fast the ball is rolling down the flipper will make it go in different directions even when hit at the same spot
Other than that think of outlane drains as a punishment for not making a shot, its when you miss that the ball goes crazy, it helped me be less frustrated as I started seeing it as my fault more

This shit was so fun, game even came with a rumble pak you put into the GBA slot on the DS.

>>719070887
Then go get them.

>>719076336
Now that I'm into pinball, I look on this release a lot more favorably. Are there multiple tables? What kind of Metroid callouts are there? is it worth emulating?

>>719059448 (OP)
The only Pinball I play is Pinball Fantasies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYP0PgTsE9E
The soundtrack is my mixtape for sweet dreams

>>719076454
You collect all the artifacts to unlock the final boss
I think its 2 main tables and then something like 3 more small arenas for bosses

>>719075295
>>719075551
>composer comes in
>strums a bit on his guitar
>composes the entire thing in like 30 minutes
>leaves

>>719070928
86box? Usually works as a last resort.

>>719076454
It's basically the plot of Metroid Prime 1 in pinball form.

>>719076520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs3bXmPVy-U

>>719071636
The physics on this one are complete dogwater
Only get it if you want to see some anime ass

>>719075303
>>719076089
attack from mars and medieval wars are beloved classics that are very easy to understand.
"just hit the lit up stuff" is the most basic advice that pretty much always applies, although many tables are somehow still complicated as hell even with that principle.
a lot of the modern digital-only tables like on FX are pretty good for beginners and easy to figure the modes and shots (such as Dreamworks Trolls). although they often aren't really my favourite tables.

the most basic aiming people talk about is like measure on the flipper like "half way" or '3/4s shot', although you need to be pretty precise, and using the art work as a cue like other anon said.
easiest to cradle the ball as much as you can before shooting it, so the ball is always rolling at a consistent speed down the flipper.

>>719077001
>artwork as a cue
It seems like it should be obvious, but I only just recently learned that you need to hit the flipper when the ball lines up with a color coded line. Especially with secondary flippers, like the Rudy shot in Funhouse, and etc..

I play Sorcerer's Lair on my tablet, it's pretty nice.

Playing these older tables caused me to check out the movies associated with the tables. Checked out Congo, Barb Wire, Brahm Stokers Dracula, Tales from the Crypt, Tommy. Tommy was a real fucking good musical and the table is great as well. While playing zen over 10 years ago, way before all the marvel studios slop, I played their Infinity Gauntlet table and it told such a captivating story in the table i read the Infinity Gauntlet comic. Theres probably more that i cant recall at this time. What about you guys/

>>719077715
There was that unreleased movie-based table based on a movie I never heard about, Krull. Thankfully hobbyists were able to recreate the test unit playfield and copy their ROM because it's a pretty cool table. I want to watch it one day.

>>719077715
I prefer original themes not based on IPs but apparently they dont sell so 80s movies galore it is

>>719066224
a lot of real classic pinball machines are very rare and cost like 20k dollars and don't even work you sperg
games that just make simulations of existing pinball machines are great and there's nothing wrong with them faggot
are you going to say tabeltop simulator is shit because 90% of the workshop is recreations of real tabletop games and that it should only be games that could only be done virtually? you hate preservation nigger?

Apparently a company I forgot which atm is making a real Pokemon pinball table
Thats going to break records

>>719077715
>Alien was everywhere back then.
>but no pinball table.

>>719078529
For tables based on VG franchises, I'd kinda like to see Mega Man. Modes can vary from each game, ramps and shots can be different robot masters, culminating in Wily Castle specials, like multiball, or wizard modes, etc.. If nothing else, the table would have great music to choose from.

>>719069287
>>719076092
Lightnings are 1/8-inch shorter.

>>719078760
Probably not popular enough to make a real table but it should get a digital one

>>719075303
"medieval madness" is the gold standard... unfortunately its designer killed himself
"creature from the black lagoon" is a more classic take... unfortunately its designer got jailed for cheese pizza
once you get a little experience with either, check out tables like "arabian nights" which is probably my favorite table from that era (action but also rules and story)... and fortunately its designer is fine & dandy (he also designed theatre of magic
& cirqus voltaire which some prefer to arabian nights but for me it's the little golden-skinned cinnamon-laced slave girl)

"centaur" and "fathom" are probably what everybody thinks about when he or she hears pinball but never looked into it... they are also great tables, really really lovely, centaur was even re-issued recently... it's probably THE pinball table and it's also beginner friendly
I'd also put "xenon" in this category, although it's a bit more of a gimmick-table not really optimized for exploration and bettering yourself... "el dorado" and its clones is cool too

between the two eras I told you above, there are several good tables: high speed, high speed 2, pin-bot, jack-bot... the last one really pays homage to the gambling themed tables of the early '70s and I love it

these should give you a good start... and don't forget: if you don't have a table you love, love the table you have

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>Loved Pinball FX3 only ever played the free stuff though
>One day notice the ball is somehow tied to my CPU performance
>Forever after just cannot shake that odd feeling that ball physics is somehow inaccurate
Just a couple weeks after I stopped playing there was a big sale and I almost bought like a dozen different machines but the feeling is off now.

>>719079427
That man in the back fused with a table
God I wish that was me

>>719079569
if there is something common between early AI image generation and the latest models, is that they have absolutely no idea about pinball

>>719076492
I had Pinball Fantasies and Pinball Illusion as a kid and I got pretty gud at 3 or 4 tables, but I replayed them recently and they control worse than I remember

>>719079814
Pinball Illusions is real ass

btw sorry for sage name field, I didn't sage this thread, it was left over from some pol thread lol
deeply sorry if I confused anyone

>>719079802
Look at that slut taking the "nudges" without ever tilting

>>719059448 (OP)
I've only played the full version of space cadet and the MLP pinball game.
Have probably sunk 100s of hours into each

>>719080298
no joke, I found the MLP pinbal a good primer for learning pinball. Every shot goes somewhere, and the drains are generous as fuck. As long as you can get past the theme, it's a good way to learn the game.

>>719059448 (OP)
for me it's pinball fx in vr with uevr
remarkably fun and easy to play at a desk

>>719080141
>>719079569
is this you?

>>719059448 (OP)
>pins
>ball
>plunger
>...
>flippers racist

>>719059448 (OP)
I fucking love pinball, but most of modern pinball games are just shit. I don't understand why there are no good pinball games for phones, when the aspect ratio and touchscreen would be perfect for playing them.

>>719082115
because phones are for bitches and faggots

>>719059448 (OP)
nortubel pinball when

>>719082115
Pinball FX works really well on tablets.

>>719059448 (OP)
Grab yourself a hot dawg

>>719081035
Im mad Japan obsessed over pachinko aka protopinball instead of real pinball
The few Japanese attempts at pinball were pretty great overall

There is no reason why new pinball tables are as expensive as a car
If I was rich I know where Id put my money

>>719064259
Bride of Pin-bot must have blown your mind.

>>719063019
i played the OG pokemon pinball on real hardware for easily 20 hrs, my uncle owned it. then i got it on my phone in an emulator and came real close to completing the pokedex

>>719073185
I'd kill to see JJP or Spooky Pinball showing up on a client someday. I just want to play Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle again.

Some actual pinball wizards considering the virginity

>>719066224
Pinball machines, old and new, are prohibitively expensive. Virtual solutions like PFX that sell you a table for $5 instead of $2000 are the only way to keep the hobby alive.

>>719070887
Devil Crash on Genesis is kino supremo

>>719066224
Came here to say this, but also that I was really let down by Yoku's Delivery Express and how it mixes the worst parts of metroidvanias and pinball

Played a couple pinball tables, my favourites were Black Knight 2000 and a WWF machine, both had great sound.

Hell yeah. Devil Crash for the Mega Drive is one of the greatest games of all time, period.

I got a Hobbit pin 7 years ago and still haven't seen everything on it.

what would the best way to play pinball in VR

>>719061529
I can heard it on my mind.

>>719061364
You will enjoy FLIPNIC for the PS2

>>719083869
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>>719085865
*$20000

>>719061529
Why haven't EA, Microsoft and Stern collaborated on making Space Cadet a real, physical table at this point? You'd have to shift some parts around to get it to play right, but there's nothing strictly impossible about it anymore, with the right engineering. It seems like a no brainer.

>>719085979
>metroidvania and pinballl
What an ungodly combination

>>719085742
>Bram Stoker's Dracula & Medieval Madness made a baby
that playfield looks juicy juicy

>>719086925
Sounds kinda fun.
>game is a ton of interconnected tables
>you gotta put the ball into the entrances that connect to other tables
>there are bosses scattered around and when you beat them you get keys or something to open up new previously locked parts in other tables
Basically like the Sonic Spinball stages but like 10 times as big.

>>719085865
>>719086871
yes they are expensive because they are meant to be exploited (earning you $$$) 24/7 and be easily repairable by a trade school electrician (which probably needs to be done every week to every three months depending how many people rape it)
"it's the same as buying a commercial van" is the closest comparison I can come up with except a van costs 2x or 3x as much... from that perspective it IS (or at least used to be) a great investment
not even arcade video games were able to beat it because repairing them took too long and was too expensive

>>719087247
But thats bs because most sales these days are for private owners only not to be put in a location

>>719087340
yeah that's probably why a Stern costs 7k instead of 20k

>>719085742
>Spooky Pinball
wow I looked them up now and they still exist
I thought they shuttered the store

>>719061529
u never played pokemon pinball?

goat

I love pinball. Favorite tables:
Addams Family
Mideval Madness
Pinbot and Bride of Pinbot
Space Cadet

>>719087560
>>719087340
probably the absolute minimum is 4000 USD
https://www.pinball-magazine.com/?p=5573
but that probably means china tier work ethics and having to repair it out of the box
plus tax

>>719087895
SOVL