Thread 719095786

This... might be the best game ever made.

>>719095786 (OP)
its not better than system shock 2

>>719095786 (OP)
it was pretty good, who cares about the name

>>719095786 (OP)
Yeah, it's a pretty fucking good game. solid 9/10. loses a point for making every single NPC so goddamn hideous.

>>719095786 (OP)
Wrong pic, nigger.

>>719095786 (OP)
yeah room looting simulator #6020628 is SOOOO good man

>>719097673
>Got filtered by the loading times
Weak

>>719095851
Kids who play Prey 2017 couldn't get past cargo in SS2, why are you telling him this?

>>719097990
>2017
Bros…

>>719098186
Nan desu ka?

>>719095786 (OP)
I think its a masterpiece. Love the space walking bits. I just wish the game had a proper final boss enemy, since Apex is just a glorified stage annoyance.

>>719095786 (OP)
it's like 6/10

>>719095786 (OP)
Very good. It's like System Shock in space.

>>719095851
Fucking delusional
SS2 is mid as fuck, completely mogged by original and remake SS, nonw of which is any beter than Prey

>>719095786 (OP)
I couldn't believe how good it was when it came out. Definitely a pleasant surprise.

>>719095851
SS2's story is nowhere near as interesting as Prey's.

>>719098642
Another retard filtered by rpg mechanics and degrading guns. Yay!

>Limited weapon variety
>Weapons genuinely feel terrible as well other than the GLOO Cannon
>Station exterior has barely any opportunities for exploration
>Have to scan virtually every new area for annoying mimics
>Stealth is a complete joke
>Sneak attacks are ridiculously broken
>Most of the interesting aspects of the story are dealt with in the first couple of hours
>Once Dahl arrives the game violently shits the bed and never recovers as you face endless operators
>Station gets covered in yellow mist (coral) over time making it extremely annoying to clear out any remaining side quests and killing all aesthetic quality of the interiors
>Need to open the airlocks to the station TWICE
>Weapon modding is straight, boring upgrades like damage and reload speed. It doesn't change the appearance of the weapon or give any interesting bonuses like a chance to stun
>All enemies have weapons they're weak to and you're forced to attack them that way to actually deal decent damage
>Most typhon enemies have uninteresting blob designs. They recolor phantoms with different elemental effects to make it seem like a totally unique enemy
>Hacking minigame is juvenile and freezes the game while you're doing it so you're never at risk
>Insulting code puzzles like looking up the atomic numbers of two chemical elements
>Once you finish the side quest which gives you full psi refills at any water fountain it's almost impossible to ever die again
>Forced lesbian dialogue during the main quest for no particular reason
>No remotely interesting characters
>Half the audio logs or notes in the game provide no insight into what transpired on Talos and are tedious records of what they were doing for fun. You continually see ones about the D&D game
>Melee combat is absolutely dreadful
>Backtracking and respawning enemies, even worse than System Shock 1 and 2
>Have to complete a side quest just to get the nightmare to fuck off
>Ends abruptly, not exactly at a climax

>>719095786 (OP)
I got filtered by the aesthetic and visual design choices.

>>719095786 (OP)
It could've been a great game if the developers had the balls to come up with a conventional second half to the story, instead of trying to be subversive. The ending especially is deflating and makes you want to forget about the game.

>>719097607
This game was the definition of mid

>>719098828
And no word about gameplay, storyfag.
Besides, does your fake prey game have a psionic biopunk hivemind superorganism and living guns that shoot toxic worms? Me thinks not.

It loses a point for the forced dyke subplot

>>719099746
You never played it.
Gravitation play is mid? Non-euclidean level design is mid? All the sick biopunk and brutal story is mid? Go fuck yourself together with your wrong opinion, your fake prey game doesn't possess a margin of originality of OG Prey.

>>719098863
nta, but I uninstalled because the music was horrendous and ruined the mood, ss1 was goated unlike system slop 2

>>719095786 (OP)
I only remember the gloo cannon being cool

>>719095786 (OP)
the game shits the bed in the last third when you pretty much just sprint from one end of the station to another. that said, I loved the first hours

>>719100132
yeah redditbro, fancy set pieces are non video game mid

>>719100260
>shit taste
>has a nerve to call someone a redditor

>>719100191
Of course you would, pervert

>>719099939
Yours doesn't have an interdimensional superconsciousness and a platformer gun, so checkmate faggot.

>>719100827
Your pretentious SS2 story copycat has dumbified psi. I doubt you ever used 4 or 5 tier psi on any of your ss2 playthorughs, if you ever did one, but I suggest you do - you'll get surprised by how diverse it is compared to anything fake prey has to offer.

>>719095786 (OP)
It was, I personally put it second but it's really hard to argue that I'd like VTMB more than Prey if I hadn't played it as a kid.
It's the only game I played twice in a row except DS2 which doesn't really count since the NG+ is basically part of the game like Diablo2 since it's really a multiplayer game where you first collect your equipment.
Now that's a cool idea, Prey would be wonderful in coop with all the goofy shit you can do. Would be even easier than it already is though and it's too damn easy even at max difficulty.

Still, the accelerated acquiring of upgrade points when you discover the crafting recipe for them is probably the most satisfying few hours in any rpg.

>>719100224
what's the point of that image?
would you prefer to play a game where you can't even do those things?
The only reason things are formulaic is that doing even this much is already hard, seeing as so few games achieve manage it

>>719095786 (OP)
Why is this of all games the target for constant shitposting and contrarianism on specifically this board and no where else

>>719095786 (OP)
>reboot Prey
>has nothing to do with Prey

What did they mean by this?

>>719095786 (OP)
But it's shit though. I dropped it after 9 hours. Dishonored with goo enemies no thank you

>>719102274
Mainly because it deceived many people to believe it's going to be reboot or a sequel to OG Prey, and it turned out to be SS2 for casuls with nothing related to Prey. Overhyped garbo.

>>719102274
A good game will do exactly that on /v/.
Jealous unsatisfied types will be ultra-critical about shit that doesn't matter (like nonsensical comparisons to games that have nothing in common except a name...) and the religious bootlicking types that will ignore all faults (hurr it's not woke, characters aren't even uglier than Dishonored) just to be part of the "hardcore" club.

>>719102362
Retard DEI hires cannot think of anything new

>>719102362
It's not a reboot, Bethesda just wanted to use the ip name they had lying around and that's it, it wasn't even marketed as a reboot

>>719103548
>>719102362
>>719097607
literally nobody knows what that game is
you can go outside RIGHT NOW and ask 20 people and NOT ONE will know a thing about the game you're so assblasted about

>>719103613
you didn't think this post through, did you

>>719103676
Cope harder, Arkane fanboy. Years will pass and no one will remember of your pissy ss2 clone, while 2006 game will still have a small cult following for being a highly creative underrated gem.

>>719098587
Are you implying System Shock wasn't fucking in space? Lmao

>>719103946
bro your game doesn't even get it's own threads, it only gets mentioned in 2017 threads by 10 retards that thought erm same name means same game

>>719103946
You don't have to be mad that people are more familiar with the 2017 game.

>>719104651
So does Wizardry 6. Needless to say, that game fucks every crpg that came out after. Your point?

>>719104787
Just spitting facts that 2017 is a simplified clone of a better game, while 2006 did it's own thing, and did it well. It's objectively better solely on that.

>>719095786 (OP)
Not sure I would say "best game ever made", but it's definitely a nice one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f04EC999AWY&list=PLxsxric4NULVvV7_luUThjkV1NjQYpnMV&index=7

>>719104901
bro are you stupid

>>719105004
it's a crappy fps with a bunch gimmick sections calm down bud

>>719105004
Really? I liked prey 2006 but it was just an average fps with a cool gimmick

>Decide to make an inter-dimensional shapeshifting alien race the big baddy of your game
>Barely any enemy variety
How do you drop the ball that badly?

>>719105167
I'm not the one implying that popular among normies = good.

>>719105239
>>719105594
You're not even trying.

enemy varuiety is abysmal... thats the only downside i found on my playthropugh, loved the atmosphere, story and exploration, but after you get your powers the enemys are just potato sacks, such a shame.

>>719105004
lmao, 2006 is literally a half-life 2 clone ffs

>>719107019
Half life 2 is not a game.

>>719107019
Arkanetard still coping. Do I also need to remind you that Arx Fatalis is a shitty Ultima Underworld clone?

>>719102041
He posts it in EVERY SINGLE Prey thread he's in.

>>719095786 (OP)
>This whole thread
I am convinced that 2006fags have some sort of persecution complex that makes them believe that Arkane conspired with Bethesda to kill off the sequel to their beloved Quake clone so they could release a completely different game with the same title years later.

>>719109171
Will you try to counter any of my points instead of coping, baiting, and spewing bullshit?

One of my favorite things about this game was how choices (until the ending) weren't just button prompts but instead dynamic in-universe stuff. Like the prisoner, in most other games if you released him you wouldn't be able to kill him. So for example if the player thought he was evil but still wanted to unlock the armory and kill him later they would be able to.

>>719109559
*wouldn't

>>719109460
>my points
Such convincing arguments as
>Hurr durr the game is bad because it has the title of another and the devs totally did that to mock the 2006 game
?

>>719108907
All immersive sims are derived from Ultima Underworld.
>inb4 immersive sims don't exist
The term was coined by Warren Spector, creator of Deus Ex.

>>719103946
Are you implying that the 2017 game doesn't have a cult following itself? There are threads on it pretty much every week.

>>719098587
You got downvoted. Shithole this place has become.

Prey is 10/10 but the ending killed any desire I had to ever replay it

>>719103665
Noooo anon, Arkane WANTED their game to have the same name as Prey, it is THEIR fault the sequel was never released.

>>719110159
>immersive sims
Oh, so you think that this shit term means a thing. Explains a lot about you.

Warren Spector is a liar and a jew, and Deus Ex is literally the only game he had a real impact on - System Shock 1 was directed and programmed by Doug Church, and Ultima Underworld was directed by Paul Neurath and programmed by Doug. Spector's words doesn't mean a thing.

>>719095851
System Shock 2 is overrated as fuck.
It's far from being bad, but it's too broken to even compete against Thief, Prey 2017, System Shock remake and Dishonored.

>>719100224
>post starts with a strawman
Disregarded. You're also brown.

should I get system shock original or remaster?
are both modable?

>>719111832
Remake and prey 2017 fan = opinion doesn't matter.

>>719095786 (OP)
It’s not even better than their previous game bro

>>719095786 (OP)
>Best game ever
> With THAT godawful double twist ending nobody asked for
FUCK OUTTA HERE

>>719113384
Play the remake, it's fun.

>>719114891
The ending is easily the best part.
I don't think it's the best game ever made because you need to really limit yourself in order to have any challenge.

>>719095786 (OP)
it's pretty good but this board acts like it's some fucking unknown hidden gem masterpiece, and not a game that gets repetitive after about 10 hours.
the level design is good and the mimic concept is good and you think you're in for a really great modern immersive sim, but that's before you realize that there's 3 guns in the entire game, 3 enemies in the game, hours of pointless sidequests to find audiologs of characters you don't care about, and a super unbalanced magic system. And also the art deco style is garish and really obviously just aping bioshock.
system shock 1 and 2 are so much better

>>719095786 (OP)
so good it killed the company. Art deco/nouveau ages like shit.

>>719113384
>>719113768
system shock remake is very good

>>719113384
The characters and voice acting in the original are much better compared to the remake. Quality control was also much more consistent in the original, but mechanically both are identical.

The original officially supports mods while the remake does not but both have plenty. All the mods for the remake focus on fixing bugs and other problems.

>>719116619
It didn't do great, but it was Redfall, and Xbox's retardation, that killed Arkane Austin

>>719116842
Fucking hell I forgot about that. I mistook it for Concord.

small thing but in the original, I always thought the painted portraits looked like garbage and don't know why Nightdive made them the default. The DOS portraits in the mod settings are the originals and feature the developers and their friends.

>>719097607
nice Doom 3 mod fag

System Shock 3 was going for a kind of future Memphis aesthetic. It's time for Memphis to come back.

>>719117318
Nice bait.

Prey is the only good idtech 4 game.
Both Q4 and D3 were bland corridor shitshow, especially the latter. They felt more like benchmarks or techdemos than actual games.

>>719114891
Filtered, not even kidding.

The ending fits perfectly with all the themes of the game, and it's telegraphed a million times.

>>719116842
To be fair Redfall was garbage and subcontracted to pajeets cause 70% of staff left after Prey.

>>719118806
All 3 are mid, mostly forgotten, and only brought up by contrarians.

That's idtech 4's legacy.

>>719118940
Replay Prey. Clearly you forget what this game is, even comparing it to other idtech 4 games is a travesty.

>>719095851
I tried System Shock the remaster or maybe it was 2 and it seemed bland. I didn't really get it. Maybe I'll try it again but it seems kind of dated in the non-kino way. I am a proponent of having to analyze things in the era they came out, though.

>>719095786 (OP)
Ok listen. I have never played SS1/SS2 or PREY.
Are any of these good and which one should I play right now?

>>719119394
Just play Prey.

>>719097607
Nobody actually believes this. Neither do you.

>>719119394
Original System Shock 1 and 2 and both Ultima Underworld games.

How did you deal with him?

>>719119537
Arkanefag, please. Your beloved company were never original with their shit, capable only of sloppily cloning better games, hence why you so mad at a mention of an actually creative game.

>try game
>instantly feel like something’s off with how the main character and his brother are Asian and how he has the most generic sounding western Asian name possible like John Chu
>look into it
>the devs specifically did this because Anita Sarkeesian came to their studio and told them not to make games starring White men
>Arkane has not made a game starring a White man since 2012
I deleted the game after learning this, it left a bad taste in my mouth

>>719119786
The fact that your game is only ever mentioned in 2017 threads says all you need to know.

Make a thread about it, go ahead, let's see how many replies it gets.

>>719119786
>actually creative game
>shoot aliens till they die
>sometimes a portal appears which you have no control over

>>719119949
Same cope many posts later, lol. I'm reminding you once more - fake prey is ball-less ss2 for casuls and kids.

>>719120115
Cool, so feel free to leave the thread and discuss your Doom 3 clone with all those people who care about it.
Care to find them?

>>719099079
I agree with most of this. Prey's biggest problem by far is the combat sucking. It would have been a lot better if there were hostile human enemies in the game, like Bioshock.

When you actually do fight the few humans in Prey, you realize why there aren't - their AI sucks. In fact, all of the enemy AI is really stupid and basically relies on strength difference to kill you. As soon as you level up your shit, they stop killing you.

>>719120048
It's creativity lies within it pushing the most prominent engine of it's time to it's absolute limit, having many unique gimmicks no other game had, as well as having good gigeresque design and story with a much better twist than fake prey could ever have. It's a visual and technological masterpiece.

What kind of creativity fake prey has? None. It's a degenerate ss2 clone, nothing past that.

>>719120234
>reeee
Calm down, Arkanefag. Here's your soilent green.

>>719120647
>What kind of creativity fake prey has?
Prey 2017 features creative problem solving. Human Head Prey is just a slow first person shooter with a gimmick.

>>719120735
Still here?
Man you really are desperate to talk about your mid game. It's kinda sad.

>>719120817
I'm not talking about fake prey tho.

>>719120765
Bet it's "creative problem solving" are just puzzles stolen either from Ultima Underworld or Thief.
Or what the fuck did you mean by that? Be more specific.

>>719120923
No one cares, dude. Not even baiting, not even outrage.
No one cares about your game, let it rest.

i'm glad imsims are dead because if a game like this is considered a successor...

>>719121123
Bioshock was considered a successor to SS2, what's even your point.

>>719121068
Oh, so you haven't even played 2017? lol

>>719121123
"imsims" were never a thing, these games were just well-made 3d action-adventures. This term was made up by the fraud Warren Spector who barely had any business making said games apart from one.

>>719121257
>Ultima Underworld
>System Shock
>a litle on Thief
>Deus Ex

Yeah, barely any business with the genre.

>>719121223
So you can't be specific? M'kay, argument lost. Come back when you have something meaningful to say.

>>719121360
You are fucking retarded.
Deus Ex is the only game he had ACTUAL business making. Both System Shock and Ultima Underworld were made by completely different people, with Spector in the team doing shit like management and sales.

>>719095786 (OP)
It wasn't enjoyable. I took the easy ending where you abandon the mission and never looked back.

>>719095786 (OP)
Isn't it just Dishonored with jumpscares?

>>719121929
It isn't.

>>719121072
You're so mad, Arkanefag. Did you not enjoy the soilent flavour? What about this one?

>>719121929
Nah, it's pretty much System Shock 3.

>>719121198
Bioshock has barely anything to do with SS2 gameplay-wise. Who gives a shit what it was "supposed to be"? It wasn't, and never had a chance.

>>719122106
>Bioshock has barely anything to do with SS2 gameplay-wise
>level based with an elevator for backtracking
>vitachambers
>same weapons
>with ammo types
>cameras and turrets
>hacking
>powers that use mana

It's a very dumbed down SS2, but it has more in common with it than to a lineal campaign shooter.

>>719122293
And I even forgot to add the reused plot with the same fucking reused plot twist.
With the same aurio diaries and ghosts.

Shit, they even both have an awful third act.

>>719122293
You completely dropped off SS2's role-playing system, degrading weapons and inventory with a shit ton of usable items, two fire modes on each gun and psi burnouts, and heavy non-linearity.

The good thing about Bioshock was it's art direction though.

>>719122420
It's reused poorly. What SS2 reaches only in the middle of it's narrative in Bioshock happens in the very end.

>>719122557
As I said, very dumbed down.

Blame consoles for all of those.

>>719122613
In Bioshock it happens 2/3rds into the game.

People tend to forget those later levels. Because they are so damn forgetable.

>>719122557
>SS2's role-playing system
Half the skills were broken or obsolete.
>degrading weapons
Who fucking cares.
>inventory with a shit ton of usable items
Is that supposed to be a good thing?
> two fire modes
Your only legitimate complaint.
>psi burnouts
Who cares?
>heavy non-linearity
System Shock 2 is about as linear as Bioshock and I'm not kidding.

>>719095786 (OP)
>lame story
>lame environments
>super lame enemy design
>practically only 3 weapons
>back tracking back tracking back tracking
>resource grind and crafting bullshit

It will never be better than SS2
It's probably worse than the SS1 remake.
Normies were right to drop this one. There is nothing that keeps you in it unless you force yourself.

>>719119621
>>719119496
I will listen to both of you

>>719122746
Play the game, then talk.

>>SS2's role-playing system
>Half the skills were broken or obsolete.
The only useless skill is modification due to french epstein devices and repair, and even that is debatable - on my second playthrough I found it much more reliable than maintenance, as latter were limited and repair could be done as much as I needed to as long as I had few nanites.

>>degrading weapons
>Who fucking cares.
Point taken, casul.

>>inventory with a shit ton of usable items
>Is that supposed to be a good thing?
Yes, casul.

>>psi burnouts
>Who cares?
Gamers, casul.

>>heavy non-linearity
>System Shock 2 is about as linear as Bioshock and I'm not kidding.
You are retarded.

>>719123146
You haven't played System Shock 2 in 20 years and it shows.

>>719097990
I'm a boomer who played and finished SS2 when it was released (and a few times after that) and I consider Prey to be at least as good, if not better in some respects.
This "glazing old games just because they're old" meme really needs to go.

>>719123234
I played it for the third time this year when the shitty Slopdive remaster came out, and I played a psi build on impossible mind you. Bait harder.

>>719095786 (OP)
The setting isn't fully realized, very poor enemy variety, all the cool moves are at the beginning, the gunplay sucks, the only real "oh shit" is the reveal of the hologlass or whatever and it's then overused with like 2-3 decent examples. Game falls off a cliff when the typhonsaurus Rex and MUH ZOMBIES shows up

>>719097990
SS2 was disappointing to me because I had high expectations for it after SS1.

Meanwhile I had 0 expectations for Prey, went in blind and got gold.

>>719095786 (OP)
>a game with 2 whole enemies where you pick up random pieces of garbage
I deeply regret playing this

>>719123470
>SS2 was disappointing to me because I had high expectations for it after SS1.
Surprisingly, a good point has been made in this thread. SS2 level design is a big downgrade from the first game... but so is SS1 from UU. However, SS2 compensates it with good magic system and being part rpg, paying it's many respects to UU.

>>719123336
Forgive me, *fourth. I forget about playing it a year ago as well.

>>719116841
>"but mechanically both are identical"
>completely terminates the complex movement and physics of the original so that zoomers wouldn't face the ClUnKiNeSs

>>719124262
>complex movement and physics
>system shock 2
Cmon now.

>>719125573
The post was about SS1.

>>719095851
Played SS1 and 2 well before Prey and they're both great (especially 2), but Prey 2017 is objectively the better game.

>>719095786 (OP)
the game is great, but the enemies are hugely lacking, especially visually. The alien upgrades are all useless because you can annihilate any enemy with an upgraded shotgun, and there's too much backtracking in the endgame.
>>719097478
This is completely true about how the characters look, but that's basically a standard of Arkane character design. Not that I'm defending it.

>>719097607
This Prey had a better idea for the story, the atmosphere was darker, and the cameos with Art Bell on the radio were kino. It's such a shame Bethesda sank Prey 2 when the game was like 90% finished.

>>719119776
Oh, that nigger? Did I really have to deal with him? I remember that chef fuck being a bigger problem.

>>719095786 (OP)
>>719095851
They're both good, but I'd rather replay Prey 2017.
They really should have called it Neuro Shock or something instead though.

>>719095786 (OP)
it isn't even best games name prey

>>719095786 (OP)
the best game ever made died so this crap could be shitted out

>>719095786 (OP)
Great fucking game. Not flawless, but fun, interesting and put in a cool setting.

>>719127901
Prey 2006 ought to be one of the darkest games out there together with Manhunt 1 and Suffering, especially once the story reveals why aliens are coming to Earth.

>>719095851
You getting a lot of hate but you’re right. System Shock 2 is goated. I love Prey 2017 but you are correct.

>>719100132
Bro u gay

>>719130121
no u

>>719097607
Nobody cares about amerijeets

>>719130287
nobody cares about niggers, is that why u mad this game has none?

>>719095786 (OP)
>>719097478
not really. it's pretty shit. THIS is the best game ever made

bump

>>719097607
went to look up the characters/voice actors and found this gem of a review on imdb.com
>First of all I want to say that I like the original idea of wallwalking, etc. It cóuld have been very innovative if it wasn't for the developer turning this game into a semi-puzzel/platform game every once in a while. I said this a lot of times and I'm gonna say it again; platformgames and shooters dón't mix, period. I like a challenge, but for example I was trapped in one (big) level for a entire week before I found out that to progress in the game, I had to shoot a small electro-tube somewhere on the wall... What kind of game-logic is that?
kek. the rough translation adds so much charm

>>719095786 (OP)
I'll admit, it's one of the better fps games to come out over the last 10 years, but that isn't saying much.

>>719116619
>Art deco/nouveau ages like shit.

This is how I know you're retarded.

bump

>>719095786 (OP)
Nu-prey is woke and overrated
Fuck off shill youve been spamming these shill threads for years now
I pirated this shit

>>719095786 (OP)
I replayed SS2 at the start of the year and I still enjoyed it but it is hardly an unbeatable ludokino masterpiece. Imsims in general tend to have middling combat at best

>>719099079
And don't forget about the absolutely dreadful space exploration around Talos parts, the only reason I would not play Prey ever again.

>>719095786 (OP)
It's "neat" but I was bored with it halfway through. Oh boy another goo monster to shoot with my shotgun.

>>719111628
>muh Jews...
Kubrick was one too.
>Spector's words doesn't mean a thing.
And who are *(you)* to say that? Even if Deus Ex was the only game he made that "had impact", it is still a cult classic beloved even by this board. Its design philosophy influenced dozens of other games.

>>719123523
>>where you pick up random pieces of garbage
I gotta say, that part is one of my guilty pleasures. I find most other games' crafting systems boring, but for whatever reason Prey's recycling mechanic tickles my autism.

>>719102041
Why have things other than shooting enemies with bullets and lasers? What purpose does it serve in a game other than to make it gayer than Anthony Cumia?

>>719103676
I can go outside right now and ask people about Prey 2017 and nobody knows what it is, either.

>>719097607
/thread

I love imsims and I wasn't impressed by nu-prey at all. I never got the hype.

>>719095786 (OP)
It's not even the best game named Prey

>>719095786 (OP)
It's like if Bioshock and Half Life 2 had a baby and it was retarded.