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least insecure tranny

>>719128692 (OP)
He's here!

>>719128735
People like you are why it's like that in the first place. Non-binary people exist.

>>719128692 (OP)
I think I hate they/thems more than actual trannies. Actual trannies are delusional and mentally ill in a pitiable way. They/thems are just literal narcissists.

>>719128921
thanks, i do what i can

>>719128692 (OP)
death of the author, I think hes a boy so hes a boy

>>719128938
it's the same people

>>719128921
no they don’t
retarded men and women who are easily influenced calling themselves something that outright denies biology is

>>719128921
You exist, nonbinary is not an adjective that can be applied to humans. Our sex is bimodal, intersex conditions are literally birth defects and no not constitute more than 2 sexes because there are only 2 types of gametes in humans. This is very fucking basic biology.

>>719129038
uh read a book bigot???

do you never get bored of this exact topic over and over

>>719129112
It's literally a mental illness.

>>719128692 (OP)
Kris is a MALE monsterfucker

>>719129109
>>719129038
Real talk when these retards say "haha thinking two genders exist is a brainlet take on biology real biologists with the advanced stuff know we're right" what the actual fuck are they even talking about? What fucking "scientists" have ever said there are more than 2 sexes? And how paid off are they?

>>719129246
m8 there are entire academic departments founded on the idea

>>719129161
Changing your gender isnt mental illness though tee hee! obsessing over pro nouns like its a matter of life and death isnt mental illness though teehee!!Dying your hair, then claiming youre not a girl, when you have tits and a vagina, demanding other people genuinely look at your tits and say you arent a girl, isnt mental illness though. Teehee!

>>719128692 (OP)
Why it is so important that it gets 46 reference points? It is a crucial point to the story? When I played the game it didn't matter at any point

>>719129109
its funny because, i am the person you replied to, and while there are only 2 sexes, it is quite easy to see why gender and sex can be 2 different things where one refers to biology and the other refers to how we see and refer to eachother in a social setting. IE, when you meet someone for the first time, your subconscious makes snap judgements about them based on secondary sexual characteristics to determine what sex it thinks they are. This is basically what gender is. And sometimes the brain can be WRONG about what sex someone is. Sometimes people can be born with bith defects where the brain thinks its own sex is different than what sex it actually is. This is where tranny gender dysphoria comes from. But then theres still only 2 genders. Your gender might not match your sex, and thats whatever, take hormones and do whatever you want, but there is literally not more than 2 genders in humans because gender is just the psychological manifestation of sex.

Kris gender threads aren't Deltarune threads so this will stay up

>>719129318
Ok and what definitive objective non "this is how I feel" science is there to say there's more than just male/female? And academic departments in liberal universities don't seem unbiased.

>>719129360
prolix to make me think you're a communist transsexual yourself

>>719129360
so, what you’re saying is, all mtfs and most ftms aren’t actually that gender because I don’t immediately perceive them as that gender?

>>719129383
those are some hot takes buddy, do you want me to give you a quick catchup for the last decade since you've obviously just been defrosted

>>719129360
That's the most reasonable take on it
>sex is what you physically and biologically are and only have two options
>gender is what you perceive yourself as and should also be the same two options
>if you gender doesn't match your sex you're just mentally ill

>>719128692 (OP)
Okay, but is they 18? My night depends on this, please hurry.

>>719129459
You joke but that's the kind of logic trans cultists will use to groom other people
>woah you're a boy? You're so feminine though I thought you were a girl teehee maybe you should be trans you're just an egg waiting to crack

>>719129368
saving western civilization thread

>>719129416
i am neither a commie nor a tranny. you dont need to be a tranny to understand that the brain fucks up all the time in understanding itself and others and birth defects happen all the time. why wouldnt there be a birth defect where the brain thinks its the wrong sex?

>>719129463
I don't need to read articles by dr goldstein, thanks.

>>719129567
gender literally meant the same thing as sex before the 20th century
anything else is cope or john money apology

>>719129665
Anon, if you want to say that gender and sex are the same thing, thats fine. Im not going to sit here and debate semantics with you because its pointless. The point of language is to communicate ideas. Im trying to share the idea with you that how a brain thinks of itself does not always match what its biology is because of birth defects. Would you rather people say brain sex? it just sounds a lot more formal. For most people, their brain and their body having matching sexes, so for most people sex and gender ARE synonyms. And thats ok.

>>719128692 (OP)
So what sex is kris? A boy or a girl?

>>719128692 (OP)
yeah it's because of player insertion

>>719129787
Kris's sex is with Asriel

>>719129785
>Would you rather people say brain sex?
Definitely not, because a MtF tranny for example DOES NOT have the brain of a woman by any stretch.

>>719129827
I'd rather the fish

>>719129785
here’s the thing though, a male neuron still has XY chromosomes, I don’t know why this is hard to understand for some people
some people think they are dogs, should we start allowing surgeries to replace human women vaginas with cookies and treat them like dogs?

i think i'd prefer not having deltarune threads at all if they're this

>>719128735
>>719128921
>>719129318
Nonbinaries are why the transgender community is subverted. They conflate trans medical rights with nonbinary individualism. Transmedicalism is the only way forward to get the support needed for the trans community. Trans medicalism actually protects trans kids. Trans people have gender dysphoria, which should be treated medically. Kids shouldn't be forced to grow up with their mental illness untreated. Nonbinaries are just retarded snowflakesm. And while they should be free to be retarded snowflakes, people shouldn't be forced to accept their individuality as anything real like male and female gender dysphoria.

>>719130029
it would be so cool if the entire site supported videos

>>719129972
i think perhaps you are not understanding what im trying to say, and thats ok. Im talking about the psychological manifestation, not the neurons themselves. Im talking about consciousness and subconscious. Something has gone wrong for those things to expect the opposite of what it actually has. A neurological defect. I am not saying they have female brains, I am saying the part of the brain responsible for self identity think its a opposite sex of what it is.

>>719128692 (OP)
It's funny how non-binaries hate gender roles but at the same time need them to exist because otherwise their identity becomes meaningless

>>719130076
To add further, Kris being nonbinary isn't anything more than individualism. This isn't a real gender that is tied to sex.

>>719130029
This is the game you fags support. Why are you surprised?

>>719130094
the irony of trannies is that all those years of "who needs gender roles when we have cinnamon rolls?" went into the toilet because now if you like girly things you must be a mtf.

>>719130076
>Trans people have gender dysphoria, which should be treated medically. Kids shouldn't be forced to grow up with their mental illness untreated
Not if the treatment is to mutilate and chemically castrate them you fucking psycho. The treatment should be to get rid of their delusion and make them accept the reality of the body they have. Or better yet, stop fucking grooming them and planting this idea in their head that gender is mutable, and like 90% of these cases wouldn't even happen to begin with.

>>719130029
This literally isn't a Deltarune thread
Anything that starts off with a Kris gendershit question is just a politics thread using a controversial vidya character as a guise
They're if the background-noise anime avatarfags posting ">deltatroon" at the start and dipping out were the entirety of the thread

I really should get around to making one of those
>Undertale/Deltatune if what people who don't play the game said about it was accurate.

>>719128921
It's just autistic girls that are uncomfortable with their bodies (like 99% of women throughout history) and want to escape their fear of femininity without going all the way to taking T and having a double mastectomy. There's a girl at my wagie job who is like this. She cut her hair boy-short, has a they/them nametag, and changed her name, but the computer system still says "Jessica". She is super sweet and always comes over to say hi to me, awkwardly ask me how I'm doing, and go on about nerd shit. If I wasn't already dating another autistic girl I could save her, but it's up to one of you weirdos now.

>>719130087
>I am saying the part of the brain responsible for self identity think its a opposite sex of what it is
No, it simply wishes it was so.

>>719128692 (OP)
Frisk - Female
Chara - Female
Kris - Male
Simple as.

>>719130405
You know, as a parody mod.
Try to keep the pacing good but doing shit like replacing every dialog choice with "I'm Nonbinary" and inserting painfully stilted dialog about how Chara is an uwu misunderstood dindu nuffin

>>719130442
I think its a bit more complicated than that. If it was the case, there would be studies proving that you could actually treat trannies with therapy and psychology in regards to gender dysphoria. As of right now, there is NO evidence that this is the case despite the fact it has been tried an extremely large amount of times.

>>719130437
>I could save her
How can you even save someone who has a cult-like worldview so deeply ingrained? Can anyone who's bought into the concept of nonbinary gender even be deprogrammed from believing in it? Are there examples you can point to?

Lotta extremist national socialists itt. Just let Kris not have a gender. They don't want to be viewed in a sexual lens and have to deal with that baggage of gender based expectations in their social interactions at this point in their life. And we should respect that. Just let Kris be Kris. Why do you insist on language that binds them to their genitals, is it really necessary?

>>719130076
>people shouldn't be forced to accept their individuality as anything real like male and female gender dysphoria.
>real like gender dysphoria
The only thing to treat gender dysphoria is some hard truths and maybe an ass beating.

>>719130570
>there would be studies
No point in studying it when big pharma can sell them hormones for the rest of their lives. Someone actually finding a cure for trannies would be a disaster for big pharma, so they won't allow it.

>>719130717
>big pharma controls who can study what
you are literally retarded

>>719130570
The only treatment for someone that fucked is unironically Jesus.

>719130662
Weak bait. You went too far with the "extremist national socialists" bit

>>719130662
>They don't want to be viewed in a sexual lens and have to deal with that baggage of gender based expectations in their social interactions at this point in their life. And we should respect that. Just let Kris be Kris.
Why can't they and other non binary people just accept that they're one or the other while still not needing to meet gender based expectations?

How the hell is any non binary person going to subvert gender based expectations for either side? Do they avoid gender coded activities and clothes and behaviors?

>>719130717
Trannies also dont want a cure. Trannyism has evolved from a simple mental illness into an cultural group and identity it gives plenty of loser leftist males a way up in the leftist hierarchy and opression points by trooning themselves out. And they dont want to let that go.

>>719130763
>big pharma doesn't control who can study what
Get a load of this retard buffoon

>>719130570
There are plenty of people who have de-transitioned. What, you need a study verified by "experts"? You think piracy actually affects sales and big titties in games have a negative effect on women? lol. lmao.

>>719130857
anon we literally get hundreds of studies yearly about things that make big pharma look bad. you are wrong and retarded.

>>719128692 (OP)
Well yeah, they're two people in one body. Them is grammatically correct. However, the game always explicitly refers to Kris as Asriel's brother so like a lot of things in his life, (You) forced this onto him.

>>719130548
But Chara is indirectly referred to in the code as murderboy, and Frisk was accidentally referred to with he/him pronouns by Toby Fox. I think Toby imagined them as his gender since they are meant to the player's gender. For Kirs in Deltarune, Toby wanted to match juat matched his previous decision of they/them. I believe he originally intended for Kris to be male just like Chara, Frisk, Varik (from Brandish, Kris' inspiration), and Toby's own gender.
>>719130275
>>719130669
The medical community tried treating gender dysphoria with conversion therapy for years. So far, the treatment is transitioning. If they find a way to fix gendrr dysphoria at the medical level without transitioning, every Dr. will acept it. The only ones who would be against following medical practices are activists.

>>719130935
>people think they are trans
>they are wrong
>they realize they are wrong
>they de transition
>this means no one is trans
again, you are literally retarded

>>719130570
There was a few studies actually that showed all symptoms of gender dysphoria and dysmorphia disappeared when antipsychotic medication was administered in similar doses to schizophrenic and schizoaffective patients with a 100% efficacy proving that it is a delusion and likely caused by grooming.

Do with that what you will.

>>719131098
>on a single patient
did you even read the study

>>719128921
>Non-binary people exist.
They don't. That entire concept is just a way for white women to get higher on the woke social hierarchy.

>>719131052
>So far, the treatment is transitioning
This being the case is a crime against humanity far worse than any horrific medieval medical treatment you've ever heard of. Every "doctor" complicit in this should be publicly executed and I am NOT kidding.

>>719131147
Yes, but there was an older one that showed the same results on a handful of patients. This appears to be repeatable but it's been pushed back by the medical community because it doesn't turn the trannies into life long pharmaceutical dependants.

>>719130548
Cute and funny idea! Kris needs to be male for lesbian correcting Noelle!

>>719131069
>>people think they are trans
>>they are wrong
Correct.

>>719129480
Nobody responded because there's nothing to argue

>>719131069
>they realize they are wrong
This is like the "real communism has never been tried" meme. Every example that makes you look bad isn't a "real trans person", whatever that means. Fucking lunatic lmao.

>>719131249
link it then. show the study where all gender dysphoria goes away for more than 1 person, lets read it together and see what it says

>>719130076
The only rights troons deserve is the right to buy a rope and chair from home depot

>>719128921
neck yourself. No, don't refuse.

Reminder that gender is a grammatical concept and has zero scientific basis.

>>719129109
>Read any religious or far right book
>It's written by a pedophile as well
>Also has no research
Hmmm...

>>719131307
>if someone is misdiagnoses as something and realizes it means that diagnosis doesnt exist
this is how dumb you are

It always makes me sad when I see type a and type b bodies in my videogames

>>719129787
He's a boy.

>>719128921
this is why when you start pointing out there are biological differences and you can get past the "the hurts my feelings" point, they will start coming at you with the "biological sex isnt the same as gender identity" bullshit.

The reality of the fact is, no there is nothing really wrong with liking femanine things as a man or masculine things as a woman. They just have literally nothing else going on in their lives and its their entire state of being. They were usually molested or have tons of unaddressed mental health issues like depression stemming from severe lonliness. By pointing out that multiple genders, trannies, etc are all made up they feel like you're attacking the very fiber of their being - because in a way you are.

Pity these people. They are the most bland, boring, depressed humans in the world and they are drawn to these labels because it gives them something to feel like they are a part of, which is also why it usually jumps straight into that authoritarian model of feeling that everything that doesnt conform is evil and must be destroyed - but they are the ones who get to be the savior / hero.

If these people actually had personalities or were able to work past their trauma they wouldnt be the way that they are. Its an illness just like cancer. Sadly the media and a lot of the powers that be see that it keeps people morally/politically divided and that these people will throw obscene amounts of money at anything marketed towards them so they perpetuate the lie.

>>719129785
I'd rather you say metaphysics and get it over with.

Not a single living or dead person knows what it's like to be another -- this extends to "thinking/feeling" like you're in the "wrong" body or the "wrong" sex. Just people with a terrible misunderstanding of the metaphysical.

>>719131312
I haven't been able to find it in recent years. I'm not sure if you are aware of this but many of these get gated or hidden especially if they don't agree with the current politically driven consensus. This was something I saw ~8 years ago and was almost a decade old by that point. If I had the name of it saved I could have punched it into the university's database and found it. I'll give it a look but I probably won't find it without backtracking a bunch of possibly dead webpages or journals

>>719128692 (OP)
>"There's no way this is real"
>Check
>It's real
>It's actually 53 now
https://deltarune.wiki/w/Kris_Dreemurr

>>719131052
>But Chara is indirectly referred to in the code as murderboy,
Yeah, indirectly.

Besides, murderiglr would have a less fun of a ring to it.

>>719129523
>Gender
>Male
>Female
That's 3 genders though, what's the joke?

>Kris is not a boy
>But """they""" are high school/college age and share a room with """"their"""" older brother

Yeah ok whatever faggot

>>719130076
>Nonbinaries are why the transgender community is subverted.
You're gonna be made illegal in the next year.

>>719131396
Why do you assume it was a misdiagnosis, and not that their transgenderism was cured? What illness was someone who detransitioned previously suffering from, if not transgenderism?

>>719131470
>source: trust me bro
you're fulll of shit and you know it lol. holy shit why did i even waste time talking to such a disingenous faggot

>>719128692 (OP)
Why does he wear bows...?

>>719130832
>Why can't they and other non binary people just accept that they're one or the other while still not needing to meet gender based expectations?
Maybe it's psychologically distressful to them. Maybe they try to avoid gender coded activities and clothes and behaviors as much as possible, but they found language as one particular barb that always seems to allow gender expectations to seep in. Could be that in their experience, they found that adopting gender neutral language was the only thing that truly allowed them to feel freed. You can't tell me that you or anyone else has never felt distressed by gendered expectations during interactions. Everyone does at some times, it's universal. Nonbinary people are suggesting a possible reality where people are liberated from that stress. Its kind of noble. Just being humans instead of being a caricature of A or B reproductive function all the time, you can't tell me that doesn't sound a little appealing

>>719130662
You ARE bound by your genitals, no matter how much you try to deny it. Sorry bout it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>719129246
I don't know man, you could do this thing called "basic research" and read several "scientific journals" on the topic and become "educated", or, I guess you COULD just ask random anonymous people on the internet, some of whom might just be yourself having a schizophrenic episode, and inevitably none of whom are in anyway involved with any form of science.

If Kris is not a boy, explain this.

I don't give a fuck about this endlessly regurgitated argument but isn't "the game calls Kris they 80 gorillion times" kind of useless to cite when nobody is saying the game DOESN'T do that
The argument is that the game uses they/them so you can interpret Kris's gender as whatever you want, not that the game doesn't use they/them

>>719131539
>high school/college
easily middle school at best

>>719130076
Even if you take what you said sincerely and ignore what the surgery and medication means,
people make mistakes. The existence of transmedicalism results in the existence of incorrect prescription, especially to non-bis.

>>719131709
She got them all pregnant with her futa dick

>>719131562
Yeah? My former friends tried to groom me into becoming a tranny because I was a feminine guy and I got about this close to it before realizing how stupid it was because they all looked like men in dresses and got the fuck away from them fast as possible. So excuse me for being hostile to the idea when it turned out getting antipsychotics worked in my case. Regardless, I'm going to look for it anyway and hopefully I can find it before the thread hits bump limit so I can prove you wrong even though it's clear you're just one of those trannies from r*ddit engaged in your disingenuous little gayop.

>>719131636
Says who? A man probably, that wants anyone with a womb to be a potential carrier for his seed? Context matters, I see the psy-op you're trying to run. Its how men have kept women down for millenia.

>>719131440
> they will start coming at you with the "biological sex isnt the same as gender identity" bullshit.
Which is the part people can't argue.

>The reality of the fact is, no there is nothing really wrong with liking femanine things as a man or masculine things as a woman.
That is going against centuries of memetic understanding of masculinity and femininity You aren't wrong, but it's also the fundamental issue the right wing can't deal with. The degree to which they claim sex matters clashes with the actual reality of it not mattering. I think the left overcomplicates things in the other direction, because autism and identity politics, but the answer of just throwing up your hands in teh air saying who gives a fuck is directly opposite literally everything right wingers believe in.

>Pity these people. They are the most bland, boring, depressed humans in the world
That's like, 90% of the population. See religious people, nationalists, feminists, men right activists, Zionists, anti Semites, American Iranians for some reason, racists.

People who realize their lives are empty but are too inherently weak to deal with it will always gravitate to identities because that allows them to essentially steal accomplishments from other people. Memes and projecting onto in groups you feel at home at is a way to cope with your own inherent failure as a person living in a inherently evil civilization.

>>719131814
it all comes out now. you're biased, you have a chip on your shoulder, you lie about things, you misremember them, you make shit up to justify not being able to hold yourself accountable for your own actions

>>719131814
>because I was a feminine guy
I need photo evidence of this please. For science.

>>719128921
no they don't

>>719128692 (OP)
I don't know why anons pretend this isn't a tranny game and that toby is some sort of secret chud

>>719130405
>kill a single froggit and the start of the ruins
>sans teleports behind you and starts a 30 minute long unskippable sermon about how you are a horrible disease upon all monsterkind and need to kill yourself in real life

>>719131794
Toriel says Kris is going to be heading to college soon and he knows how to drive a car. Deltarune is taking place in the autumn of his senior year of Highschool.

>>719131539
>But """they""" are high school/college age and share a room with """"their"""" older brother
I mean, that's pretty normal though in most of the world. Not like they got many choices considering the Dreemurr's have two sleeping rooms.

>>719131894
You may be having a schizophrenic meltdown.

>>719131539
The only context where some people depict Kris as a dude is when they're talking about snowgrave

>>719130405
>The 9 minute unskipable Noelle and Susie sex scene you, as Kris, were forced to watch.
>Same thing in Undertale with Undyne and Alphys.
>The ending of Undertale where they say white genocide is good actually.

>>719131242
ok well let us know when you find a better option

>>719132000
im not the one blogposting about their failed transition beacuse they were weak willed enough to be groomed by fucking trannies anon.

>>719132039
I mean, that is always funny to me.

>Weird route is clearly meant to be heteronormative = bad.
>So... Kris is a boy?
>...No.

>>719132057
Doing nothing would be a better option

>>719132063
You will never be a woman, you will always be an ugly man in a dress.

>>719128692 (OP)
I don't care what anyone says. My headcanon is that Kris has no canon gender and therefore he's whatever gender the player wants him to be. Just like Frisk and Chara.

>>719128692 (OP)
this game is tailor made for trannies of course they're gonna cite like 800 fucking sources for gender shit

>>719132145
i guess its a good thing im not a tranny then ;)

>>719130405
>Kris and Susie got to a church and spend the entire section being edgy atheists.

>>719132115
can you prove that scientifically?

>>719131634
>You can't tell me that you or anyone else has never felt distressed by gendered expectations during interactions.
I'm a guy but I don't care about sports or cars and I really don't give a shit. Sounds like these people just need to have more confidence in themselves

>>719132107
>used to mock local susellefags by saying that Krusie and Kriselle are technically more progressive ships
>now it actually became a popular opinion in the fanbase

>>719132115
Reality disagrees.

Honestly, I would be more open to anything if transphobes weren't such fucking obnoxious fucking losers denying reality. At least be honest and say you prefer them being dead and miserable. I can commend a soulless person that is al least willing to look you in the eyes when they speak.

>>719132057
A rope

>>719132190
Yes

>>719130029
There is NO way to prevent this. It's not possible. You're just gonna have to deal with it because this is an unsolvable issue.

>>719132263
cool, link the paper

>>719132234
>Reality disagrees
Reality disagrees with your delusion that you're a woman, troon.

>>719130405
>>719132189
>church is evil
>escapism is bad
>subversion for subversion sake
>ironic Marvel-tier writing

>>719130570
how do you think studies get funding
why do you think we’re in a replication crisis
how dense are you
i would have thought anyone who lived through all of the bullshit surrounded covid would get the picture by now but i always underestimate how many people are actually just fucking nigger cattle

>>719128921
non binary is imaginary
You're pretending you're not male or female
You're not a damn plant or fantasy creature, grow up

>>719132315
>how do you think studies get funding
how do YOU think studies get funding anon? please tell me all the different ways, since you seem to know. dont leave any out or you admit you are talking out of your ass

>>719132278
>people want to talk about video games on video game board
>tranny janny deletes the threads and hands out three-day bans like candy for that

>>719132315
this is why they think trannies exist, anon. they're permanently midwits

>>719131307
that would be sort of like if communism worked 99% of the time, but you claimed that communism didn't work because of 1% failed states

>>719128735
this thread was not made by a tranny

>>719132365
And he lets this thread live without issue because it's talking about western civilization instead of videogames

>>719130405
>Every chapter has an overly long unskippable cutscene where Kris has a mental breakdown over being controlled by the player

I wish noelle was chubby and had big boobs.

>>719128921
>Non-binary people exist.
It's comical at best to say shit like this and still have these people fall into one of two brackets, regardless of where you put the brackets.

>>719130405
IM NOT RALSE
BUT IM ASRIEL

>>719131879
The British governor of New York used to dress up in makeup and women's clothing and walk around town whipping people

>>719129246
Basically the idea is that gender and sex are two different things and that saying you are another gender is not biologically incorrect because gender is a social construct not a biological thing.
Yeah it makes zero sense but what makes sense about this idelogy to begin with?

>>719132467
it really does come off as a smug redditor doesn't it? thank god the tides are turning and their opinions are worth less than the dirt i walk upon

>>719132315
we're in a replication crisis because of a period of massive acceleration of studies being published and a large focus on publishing studies in the scientific community. Additionally insignificant results or unoriginal work is rarely published, which discourages replication. As a result, a lot of newer studies simply don't get enough careful attention.
Anyway, a study that found that it was easier to treat trannies with therapy than medicine would be highly innovative and original, and would likely be very easy to publish and get a lot of attention in the community

>>719130568
So just like Deltarune repainted?

>>719132467
concession accepted

>>719132526
Ok but even if you're a male who identifies as woman or vice versa that's still only two genders. What fucking science supports the idea of shit like Xir/Xey

>>719132312
>ironic Marvel-tier writing
To be fair, Dess would probably into that. If she could still speak as the roaring knight she would be doing that constantly.

Either that or quoting slasher movies.

>>719130405
That's literally just Deltatraveler

>>719132526
It actually does make sense when you separate sex as material and gender as metaphysical.

It makes less sense when you use them interchangeably because it's not even meant the same despite what people pretend.

>>719132521
People were insanely fruity in the past and nobody wants to talk about that because it breaks their warped worldview of the past consisting entirely out of based nationalists despite nationalism literally only existing for about 200 years.

>>719132305
>You disagree with me? Means you are TRANS!
I'm not. I'm very comfortable being a man. Hell, dare I say, I even dislike the idea of being a women.

>>719132402
Anon is referring to the reason as to why what the screencap depicts exists
No?

>>719132231
>now it actually became a popular opinion in the fanbase
Is it? I mean, outside of here.

>>719128735
Fpbp

>Kris is not a boy
>but Carol welcomes them to rape her daughter despite being homophobic

Kris is a pretty feminine name though

>So we been breaking doe for 55 generations.
>Mos' time the breaking sticks. The doe don't give you any kine uh problems.
>B-b-but sometimes, sometimes... well sometimes you get a PECULIAR doe.
>This one doe, well she was the peculiar type, she a uh, well she would act up but she wouldnt hide it.
>It seem every week she was freezin' li'l ole darkners here an sum darkners there, but she'd do this here actin' up and say she'nt even remember I tell you huwhat.
>Only damn thing she'd ever respon' to is the command "proceed" yessir.
>She would skip over to that damn mouse puzzle after an call out "COME On KRiiiiIIIS THIS DOE AINT GUNNA BREAK HERSELF!"
>Just down right peculiar...

>>719132882
I mean, pretty much. Suselle is losing even on fucking Tumblr, and twitter trannies are extremely demoralized after chapter 4.

>>719128692 (OP)
Sorry I'm not a manchild, what's supposed to be wrong with this pic?

>>719132231
>criticism of ship
>over half the page is criticizing the literalwho xitter trannies who like it instead

>>719132385
>that would be sort of like if communism worked 99% of the time, but you claimed that communism didn't work because of 1% failed states
I mean... that is what they are doing.

>>719132231
nonbinary people can't be lesbians though

>>719130593
>How
Sincere love and good dick.

Look, I'm just not going to use they'them for a singular known person. I'm just not.

>>719132932
Carol isn't homophobic, she just hates poor people.

>>719132997
It seems to be based on Christmas, implying the Holidays probably had something to do with it.

>>719133006
I honestly don't hate the ship, I just think it's rather one directional at the moment and I'm curious where exactly it's going if it is supposed to be a two way thing. It doesn't help that Noelle is heading towards camp mental breakdown and that this will almost certainly have dire consequences.

>>719133178
>dio
>look inside
>not DIO

>>719133128
>rape
Alright, Nazi.

Fun fact, most of the lesbians the Nazis raped went back to being Lesbians after Berlin got burned down. Food for thought.

>>719128692 (OP)
>DELTATROON

>>719133178
I'm not going to use it on the basis that I literally will not remember it. I can barely remember using she and he for female characters half the time. I'm running a Touhou campaign as a GM and my friends joke that everybody in Gensokyo must be male going by the pronouns I keep using.

>>719129109
>>719128692 (OP)
I generally think the Bridget change is really fucked up.

Androgynous characters in the past:
>omg, they're so mysterious! This thing could mean they're a girl, but that would change the whole context of this other thing!
Androgynous characters now:
>Um, what do you MEAN are they a man or a woman? They're a HUMAN BEING, ok??? Isn't that fucking #kenough for you??? I can't BELIEVE you want to know about their GENITALS you disgusting pervert!!!

>>719133178
>>719133212
Why are all Dios bastards?

>>719131242
I agree that it is absurd that doctors, who are sworn to care for their patients health, agree to sellout and perform these kinds of surgeries. It is not a life-saving procedure, it is not something that will increase the overall health and physical condition of the patient, and it is very, very debatable it will increase the patient's quality of life in the long run.

It's ridiculous, quite unethical, and clearly done purely and only for monetary gain over some clearly confused people. It is damaging both to their physical and mental health, not to mention the societal damage it incurs over time as well.

Humans are creatures with two arms and two legs? How do you explain children born with only one leg? Checkmate chud.

>>719133532
>not to mention the societal damage it incurs over time as well.
The societal damage of allowing the subhumans known as transphobes to exist is greater. Therefore a sacrifice has to be made to continue weeding out subhumans from human society.

>>719132190
>can you prove that scientifically?
>>719132234
>Reality disagrees.

>>719133704
>The lobotomists aren't the problem, it's those damn lobotomyphobes! Don't they know the lobotomies work??

>>719133532
Good news, only a tiny percentage actually do that so there's nothing to worry about.

>>719133683
Humans are creatures capable of sapient thought. How do you explain transphobes then?

Simple: They aren't human. Butcher them like the animals they are.

>>719133683
does seeing a one legged person offend you?

>>719133425
okaaaay but why DO you need to know their genitals like actually tho?

>>719128692 (OP)
NOOOO!!! KRIS CAN'T BE NB!!!!
>the 46 citations

You call Kris 'him' because you don't believe in gender nonsense

I call Kris 'him' because Kris believes in gender nonsense and I have absolute antipathy for this little cunt and will NOT respect his identity

>>719133813
>>719133795
Jeez they're SUPER fuckin mad already and we ain't even 200 posts in

>>719133759
The issue is you existing. Anything else is meaningless in comparison. The act of performing a trans suggery is rendered inherently worthwhile simply because it means you self identify, thus ensuring you can be cleaned up.

Anybody performing a trans surgery is inherently vindicated because you exist. The only way to stop this is to remove yourself from existence.

>>719133704
How must it feel to know that the majority of humanity does not agree with you in the slightest and is returning to a natural equilibrium. Pushing harder now will only make them hate you more. Now don't forget to look up what books they burnt in Germany.
>>719133759
Jej

>>719131147
>Fuck up a normal guy and he starts having symptoms of being trans
Completely unrelated, xister

>>719128921
You think you're a snowflake. We think you're a wacko faggot crossdresser. Who is going to win in the end? Not your antipsychotics, that's for sure.

>>719133843
that's fair

>>719133817
>Grow up in the UK
>Only men can rape
>Feminists all over the western world say that penises are rape devices
>Suddenly men claim they're women
>Penises are no longer rape devices
>This seemingly happens magically, and overnight

>>719132057
Step one: Don't indulge with a patient's delusions

>>719133904
Stop noticing, goyim.

>>719133941
Step two: ignore step one if they want to chop their nuts and dick off

You guys sure do love talking about gender bullshit dispite saying you hate gender bullshit.

Who gives a shit. Just misgender him like a real man and stop arguing about some random twitter trannies.

>>719133904
ENTER

>>719133852
>How must it feel to know that the majority of humanity does not agree with you
How does it feel lying without any shame?

> Pushing harder now will only make them hate you more
Nobody will hate me more than they hate you. Whatever group you think is on your side would kill you just as, if not more, eagerly.

> Now don't forget to look up what books they burnt in Germany.
Books written by humans. A animal state like Nazi germany hates everything made by humans. Thankfully like all disobedient animals they were ultimately put down. And through rapping their women, burning down their hovels and converting their children human society prospered and goodness was created. This will be repeated, time and time again. As is the fate of all who oppose humanity.

>>719134006
>just stop humiliating circus freaks until they kill themselves.
Yikes. That's a big N O, partner.

>>719134006
Yeah but this is the internet. I can't see through the screen without a lot of effort on my part just to figure out the optimal Strat to offend him. That's so much easier at work and in real life.

>>719134006
he's a cute boy
I'd molest him

>>719134027
>Reddit spacing
>Unnecessary spaces
Call it, boys. AI? Or has he gotten so flustered and mad that he's failing to follow the instructions his little fag group gave him.

>>719133904
>Grow up in the UK
>Only men can rape
>Feminists all over the western world say that penises are rape devices
Okay, but in their defense you really shouldn't listen to strange floating heads calling itself a god and throwing guns and ammo at you.

>>719134137
tourist confirmed

>>719129360
Literal mental illness, just kill yourself

>>719128921
>Mentally ill men and women exist
Fixed that for you. If some guy came up to me calling himself a fairy, that doesn't mean he's actually a fairy. That's not how reality works.

>>719133843
>>719134006
This.

I don't misgender Kris because I'm against non binary people. I misgender Kris because he's a insufferable misanthropic teenager that thinks he's a rebel while getting ordered around by the mayor like a dog.

>>719129246
>And how paid off are they?
the german's biggest pro-trans scientists publishing papers about how its no big deal pretty much only did so because she pushed her son into trooning out. The whitepill is she got her doctorate revoked after commiting research fraud and had all her papers thrown out.

You also have the woman in America who did a decades long study on how trooning out will totally make trans teenagers happier in the long run... only to find no coorelation between a decrease in suicidal ideation and taking tranny pills. She also got her doctorate revoked after she attempted to destroy all of her research to prevent anti-trans activists from using it as fuel. Naturally she had a son who trooned out as well.

>>719134308
>Two examples
>None of which are citated.
>This somehow discredits all of the studies that show that, yeah, gender therapy does actually help.

>>719130076
>Transmedicalism is the only way forward to get the support needed for the trans community
No, proper mental care that doesn't affirm a tranny's delusions is the way forward.

Wasn't it the same deal with Frisk from Undertale? How come I never see any arguments about that?

IIRC the idea there was they weren't gendered so you could project whatever gender identity you preferred onto them, I'd guess it's meant to be the same thing here. I mean, if they were canonically only supposed to be non-binary, Toby could easily say so.

>>719134027
flustered tranny is in need of rape correction

>>719134137
Human.

If you were human, you would understand. Sadly, you are not.

>>719134472
The only time we saw rape correction working was German women. Probably helped they got the first good lay of their life being liberated by Russians. I think we shall repeat that on a even greater scale in teh rest of Europe and also America.

>>719134408
>all of the studies that show that, yeah, gender therapy does actually help.

>>719130548
Nah, Frisk-big dick male
Chara-penis envy chick

>>719134537
you got the wrong guy, im a chaser.pleaze ma'am

>>719131535
Gender Gender and Luigi Gender

>>719134291
This but I hate nonbinary niggas too

>>719134570
>Source: he made it the fuck up.
He won't post 3, anon

>>719134461
Frisk's gender is left a mystery.
You can imagine the character is a girl, while your friend might imagine them as a boy. The game doesn't say you're wrong.
Since everyone can have their own idea, there's no big fight about it. It's like arguing over whether the cartoon character's favorite color is blue or red the answer doesn't exist, so there's no point in arguing.

>>719128692 (OP)
Judging from all the porn it's a woman.

>>719134683
Frisk is a boy, he flirts a lot

>>719129523
lulz

>>719134570
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9341318/https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/gender-affirming-care-saves-liveshttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35212746/

>>719134860
nigga...

>>719128692 (OP)
Toby has not confirmed that Kris is exclusively they/them, so xhe could possibly go by more pronouns, which I've learned is possible by being a longtime GDQ watcher.

Where did we come from? Over the mountain.
Where are we going? Over the mountain.

>>719134895
Cheeto man did this.

>>719134860
>404
not looking good, trannybros...

>>719134780
Most girls I know also love flirting.

>>719130076
Both nonbinary and transgenderism are pathogenic memes, not any kind of real physioligical condition. They are not even mental illnesses, and the correct treatment is to dismiss them as the baseless nonsense they are.

>>719133262
Love before dick. It was in the post. No one mentioned lesbians.

>>719134860
>Too retarded to figure out how links work
Your average transphobe IQ.
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9341318/
>/https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/gender-affirming-care-saves-lives
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35212746/

>>719134948
This is exactly like Hitler burning books.

>>719135065
You are incapable of love, so that is hardly relevant.

>>719129785
>Im trying to share the idea with you that how a brain thinks of itself does not always match what its biology is
Yes it does. All humans are 100% male or female in every cell of their body.

>>719135110
he was burning bad books so it's gucci

>>719135061
troon stuff conflicts with them having normal lives
it is a mental illness

>>719135183
> All humans are 100% male or female in every cell of their body.
Factually wrong.

>>719133813
Only if they claim to have 2 legs

>>719128692 (OP)
I despise Kris

>>719128921
>duplicate file exists
>>719134046

>Make a Deltarune fangame
>Add the option to have the MC be a male, women, or non binary.
>Piss off right wingers by making non binary a valid option.
>Piss off leftists by making male or female a valid option
Feels awesome being cool.

I do kind of remember Ralsei they/themming Kris. I think it started in chapter 2? I don't know, I quit it halfway through, I'm over Tobyslop.

>>719135156
Agree to disagree I guess. Is that the end of your points?

If Kris is not a boy, why is he always hanging out with tomboys?

>>719135312
Make the non binary option be a robot

>>719128692 (OP)
I'm not sure why, but I feel like it's one specific person who's invested to this degree in this argument.

>>719135189
It's not a mental illness, it's a pathogenic meme. They were taught wrong and internalized self destructive ideas. Sort of like leftoid suicidal outgroup preference or the religion of islam.

>>719128692 (OP)
why lie?

>>719135296
Kris hates you, so that tracks.

sex with krishole

>>719128692 (OP)
facts sister
kris is not for chuds

>>719129246
Basically a jewish pedo named john money did a bunch of sick experiments on people to prove gender and sex are completely different
Some boy had a botched circumcision and was raised as a girl, the boy eventually killed himself.

>>719135228
I'm right. From the marrow of your bones to every neuron in your brain, same for everyone you have ever met.

>>719135348
The end of my point will come when your cities are burning, your women are raped, and your children are captured.

>>719135448
He also molested him, didn't he?

>>719135423
What's a truther? People who are correct?

>>719135423
is this a stroke

I still don't know if Kris is supposed to actually be nonbinary or if it's just so the player can choose what they want Kris to be.

Kris is going to stick HIS COCK into Noelle's doehole whether HE wants to or not.
This is nonnegotiable.

>>719135465
>I'm right.
Yes. So you are wrong by default.

> From the marrow of your bones to every neuron in your brain, same for everyone you have ever met.
Finish basic school biology, please.

forcing the kris genderfreak thing to make the entirety of /v/ consider deltrarune woke or tranny game, thus having spergs derail every thread killing deltarune discussion once and for all

>>719128921
>people
lol
lmao

>>719135524
Correct

>>719135423
The person who wrote this is probably a girl because only a girl could be fucking retarded enough to not realize that Kris's entire personality, social standing, and desires are those of a very typical teenage boy.

>>719129360
If sex and gender arent the same thing
Then gender doesnt exist its a useless concept.

>>719135374
As in the main character is a robot?

Wouldn't work since his biological parents are a major plot point.

>>719135467
That's not very loving of you

>>719135575
You have other websites to talk about deltarune, use i
them

>>719135537
I literally have a doctorate in biomedical science.

>>719135351
Dess gave him a very strange and confused boner for mean tomboy girls.

>>719135401
>leftoid suicidal outgroup preference
The worst part about this is that it exploits western idealisation of self-sacrifice and altruism. Ever since christendom overtook western civilisation and replaced roman ideals with christian ideals, the obsession with martyrdom has been a persistent issue that is very easy to take advantage of. The martyr complex is downright fetishised at this point, it's not sexual, but it's a powerful motivator for many.

>>719135532
While Kris is not a self-insert character, he is written to be as broadly relatable as possible. That's why Toby dumped every single childhood trauma that is possible with T rating on him, so that something would hit close to home for anyone. That's also why his gender is kept vague.

>>719128921
hello sir

>>719129785
How many fingers do humans have?

>>719135646
And somehow for scaly girls as well, despite not being one.

>>719135638
No, you do not. Otherwise, you wouldn't be saying things even a high schooler could explain to you are wrong.

>>719135650
>western idealisation of self-sacrifice and altruism.
Lol. Imagine being this delusional. Pray, tell me how it was altruism that caused western civilization to do two world wars. Tell me how it was self sacrifice that caused a core of officers to send millions of people to their death while they sat on their ass not doing anything.

>>719135581
how different would it be if Kris was a girl?

>>719135718
10. the fact that there are some who are born with different numbers because of birth defects doesnt change that humans are defined by having 10 fingers. Which ... I dont know why you asked because that was my entire point about birth defects with intersex conditions not meaning we have more than 2 sexes. So why are you asking.

>>719130076
Honestly id respect non binary people more if their gender was just supposed to be a secret instead of being undefinable.

Like if you just couldnt tell that a young girl wasnt a boy because of her short haie maybe shes hiding and in disguise.

>>719135615
The capacity for humans to feel love is the degree to which they are willing to challenge evil. As your existence is pure evil, your destruction is not just a act of love but the very measure by which love is accounted.

With every Nazi that was put in a mass grave, teh amount of love humans felt was increased With every city in Germany that was razed to the ground, human society prospered. With every subhuman that was tortured and executed humanity capacity for empathy and goodness increased. Even today, when a subhuman like you kills themselves, that is love. The degree to which human goodness exists is the degree to which you are feeling pain.

>>719135743
High schoolers believe all sorts of stupid shit. You are just blatantly incorrect and coping. Let me guess, you're stupid enough to thing that sexual chromosomal anuploidy doesn't count as male or female?

>>719130405
Asriel
Ralsei
Israel

All the same person

>>719128921
>non-binary people exist

>>719135884
>As your existence is pure evil,
We have a christcuck pseud ITT. wew you might wanna slow down with the huffing your own farts.

>>719135743
>Pray, tell me how it was altruism that caused western civilization to do two world wars
World War 1 was caused by an absolute tangle of defensive pacts and alliances being triggered by the death of ONE (1) man which was stupid, admittedly. World War 2 was caused by a western nation pretty explicitly trying to get away from western christian ideals, the war itself was not fought over those of course, but if you look back at all the recruitment propaganda, you'll see a persistent theme in them targeting the altruist meme. It's not a society wide level issue, and particularly never in the halls of government, it's always been about the individual like you or me.

>>719130662
Kris' gender is whatever I the SOULCHAD say that it is.

>>719134137

>Reddit spacing

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>>>>Not
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>or
>>719134027
this

>>719135823
>doesnt change that humans are defined by having 10 fingers.
humans are not defined by ten fingers, idiot. Monkeys have 10 fingers as well.

>>719135895
>High schoolers believe all sorts of stupid shit.
High school biology is not stupid shit. It's factually and if you were capable of understanding it you would not be saying the nonsense you are.

>that sexual chromosomal anuploidy doesn't count as male or female?
1: aneuploidy, subhuman. 2: Sexual chromosomal anuploidys largely having no effect on the way people view sex already discredits most of the arguments people have from a memetic perspective. Regardless, it literally proves that your argument that every cell in your body proves you are male or female is factually wrong.

tldr trannies are psychotic freaks

Okay, I know this thread is really gay, but does anyone know if there's a Kris edit of the Vegeta kneeling meme? I need it for something.

>>719136091
>humans are not defined by ten fingers, idiot.
ok so you are an actual retard. Humans are defined as having 10 fingers, that does not mean that everything with 10 fingers is a human, it means humans have 10 fingers. The fact you do not know the difference means you are either extremely underage or extremely retarded

Why play the gay furry game if gay furries make you angry?

>>719135989
Your existence is evil based on my humanitarian views. Like i said, I derive my goodness not form ideas of god, sin, and virtues. But on the ability for humanity to prosper.

When the Nazis were burned down, their cities razed, their women raped, and their children converted. Humanity objectively improved. Therefore, the existence of goodness is directly tied to you suffering. When you suffer, that is goodness. When you are happy, that is evil.

>>719130548
Objectively correct

>>719135801
Girl Kris would not be totally socially isolated no matter how she she was.
Girl Kris would be more open about what she wants, or at least what she wants people to think he wants.
Girl Kris would try to satisfy her latant desire to feel powerful by asserting herself over others, not by privately larping as an edgelord and pretending to be more dangerous than she really is.
Girl Kris would not wear frumpy ugly boy clothes for no reason.
Girl Kris would not endanger the whole world in a desperate bid to save a childhood crush.
Girl Kris would be a lot more like Susie, which is why they get along.

>>719136169
Because I like messing with faggots

Kris is male when I'm playing the game and female when I'm horny.

>>719136169
kris should be male so this game can be gayer
>hugs ralsei

>>719136182
>Your existence
im not even the person you were talking to and the fact that you think every person replying to you is the same means you are a fucking retarded newfag who doesnt know how 4chan works. lurk more, post less, no one is going to bother reading anything you say.

>>719128921
It's so easy to bait /v/

>>719136169
This looks gay to you?

>>719128692 (OP)
Nothing wrong with that. An actually bad issue would have been the inclusion of the cancer known as (((bisexual))) representation.
Avoid any video game series with at least one entry featuring that garbage.

>>719128692 (OP)
Absolutely staggering autism. I feel like a Chad every time I see a delta rune fan because I will never be as bad as them.

>>719136030
> It's not a society wide level issue, and particularly never in the halls of government, it's always been about the individual like you or me.
I half agree with that. I very much believe though that the government you get is the one the people deserve. Which is why I don't believe a government this lacking in altruism and self sacrifice is the result of a society suffering form too much of either.

>>719136169
Same principal where a lot of anti gay politicians were fucking fags behind the scenes

>>719136091
>High school biology is not stupid shit
That's not what I said, which you would know if you could read.
>Sexual chromosomal anuploidys largely having no effect on the way people view sex already discredits most of the arguments people have from a memetic perspective.
Wrong, retard. They have no effect on social perception of sex because they have no BIOLOGICAL effect on sex. X0 and XXX are female. XYY and XYY are male. If you have a functional SRY pathway in development, you are male, inextricably, your whole body.

>>719131574
Because I forced him to
Susie wont let me because im not inside her.

>>719132286
tranny cultists subvert academia and suppress dissenting views through bullying

>>719136150
>Humans are defined as having 10 fingers,
No, they aren't. What is and is not a human is defined by any number of things, but having ten fingers is not one of them. Nobody goes around claiming a woodcutter that lost his finger is not human.

Like, I don't know why you people struggle so much with the concept of definitions. It's genuinly something that seems to fundamentally elude your limited understanding of the world.

>>719136301
They sure as hell know how to take advantage of it though, in england in ww1 they literally had women going around giving white roses to men to shame them for their lack of self sacrifice in volunteering. That was government backed, and it was wildly successful.

>>719128921
Male/Female exist. You're either one or the other.
You are not referred to based on an imaginary gender, you are referred to based on physical, verifiable truths.

>>719128921
true, there are XXY hermaphrodites maybe 1/100,000 humans. Trannies are not these.

>>719135650
>Ever since christendom overtook western civilisation and replaced roman ideals with christian ideals, the obsession with martyrdom has been a persistent issue
Pagan retard, leftoid suicidal empathy only began in the late 20th century, and is inextricably tied to growing secularism.

>>719134291
>>719133843
But why not her?

>>719136223
femkris would behave the exact same as mkris because kris is kris

>>719136451
My brother in christ, they had missionaries risking their lives to bring the word of god to cannibals. It's the same basic meme with a new chassis.

>>719136389
You seem to not understand classification when it comes to species and how they are differentiated/defined, but thats ok, you will get to that part in grade 11 biology. Also incoming underage b&

>>719135092
>first link has a sample size of 4 and is conducted by state uni undergrads with the department head clearly not giving a fuck because none of his other papers are at all related to the topic
>second link is literally just political activism against denying treatment and isnt a study
the only one worth a shit is the third link which only ran for a year. And if you are permanently fucking up your body with hormones youre sure as shit going to want to have a study longer than a year of beginning these kinds of treatments.

>>719136441
XXY are male. In fact most XXY don't even know it until they realize they're shooting blanks, assuming they even get the chance to see.

>>719136260
yes

>normal deltarune threads get deleted or autosaged
>deltarune thread made for the sole purpose of arguing about trannies is allowed to stay up
Western civilization status?

>>719136514
Wrong. Boys and girls behave and are treated profoundly differently.

>>719136620
>Western civilization status?
buckbroken

>>719131242
Based
>>719131052
Everything you believe in and have read deserves the be burned away. The best part is this has happened before, but this time the backlash will be global. You guys really pushed too far, I’ve been sick of your shit for a decade and now just about everyone is tired of it. Keep it up.

>>719136620
Cooked. Baked even. Fried perchance.

>>719136526
Bringing third worlders the word of God is literally the opposite of importing them and treating their indigenous culture as equivalent or even preferential. Also you're not my brother in Christ, you neopagan fag.

>>719136623
>he thinks all boys and all girls act the same instead of understanding that patterns that exist that are common or even overwhelmingly common in groups does not mean they are always true and that there is no variation between them
Actual
Retard

>>719136623
elaborate

>>719132234
>At least be honest and say you prefer them being dead and miserable.
this. itd honestly be more respectable if they were open about their murderous desires, it was never about protecting the children since republicans have been running damage control for the epstein thing and nearly half say they would still support trump if he was convicted of child sex crimes. plus nearly all of these nu-gamergate tards are proud lolicons

>>719133006
Ralsei X Asriel
Best ship

>>719136223
>Girl Kris would not be totally socially isolated no matter how she she was.
Kris was never totally socially isolated. To whatever extent he/she was it's mostly the result of his own actions.

>Girl Kris would be more open about what she wants, or at least what she wants people to think he wants.
Eh... If you mean the players not really. He's pretty open to Susie all things considered. Noelle he totally shut out of his life but he probably has a reason for that.

>Girl Kris would try to satisfy her latant desire to feel powerful by asserting herself over others,
That's basically the basis of their entire relationship with Noelle. It seemed to largely end with Dess going away, but before that his/her behavior was actually pretty textbook in that regard.

>not by privately larping as an edgelord and pretending to be more dangerous than she really is.
That one I do agree with. That's peak masculine behavior.

>Girl Kris would not wear frumpy ugly boy clothes for no reason.
The family is poor and he has to wear his brothers hand me downs. Not THAT hard to understand.

>Girl Kris would not endanger the whole world in a desperate bid to save a childhood crush.
We don't even know if that's his actual motivation. Besides, if Kris was a girl Dess was probably the closest thing she ever had to a genuine big sister and female role model. Those are feelings strong enough that I could see them doing what they are doing.

>Girl Kris would be a lot more like Susie,
They already are basically birds of a feather.

>>719136716
>he thinks all boys and all girls act the same
They do. Especially girls. And girls don't fucking act like Kris.

>>719132234
>I would be more open to anything if transexuals weren't such fucking obnoxious fucking losers denying reality.
ftfy

>>719136696
I'm not even pagan, if I'm anything I'm secular. Roman ideal sets were largely disconnected from religion, based more on greek philosophy than anything else. Religion is not the only source for civilisational ideals, and I think you know that.

>>719129360
>>719129480
>>719131303
i've never seen someone so blatantly self reply three times
>>719135590
refute this

>>719136256
Then why the fuck are you getting involved in this conversation?

>>719136363
>That's not what I said
yes, it is. You would understand that if you could understand England.

>They have no effect on social perception of sex because they have no BIOLOGICAL effect on sex.
They explicitly have a effect on you biologically. Thus, again, highlighting that biological realty plays no effect on the memetic way people perceive gender.

>>719136819
>They do. Especially girls.

>>719133178
I'll say they sometimes and he other times
Im not gonna bother thinking about it because I used they singular for men and women my whole life not as often as he/she but completely interchangably with it
Been doing this way longer than I knew what a fucking tranny was.

>>719136420
That's fair, I can't really argue against that.

>>719136876
Yes
autistic girls act like boys

>>719136729
You groom and rape kids, troon. It's hilarious watching you freaks feign outrage about Trump and Epstein raping kids. You're only outraged because you're jealous that you weren't invited.

>>719134267
bigot

>>719136843
>y self reply three times
its called samefagging and you are fucking retarded

>>719136847
>Then why the fuck are you getting involved in this conversation?
>only one person is allowed to talk to me at once
actual fucking newfag

>>719136876
Yes trannies and gender snowflakes are autistic, we know.

>>719136530
>You seem to not understand classification when it comes to species and how they are differentiated/defined
I DO that is exactly why this argument is so nonsensical. We have a actual list of classifications for humans and having 10 fingers is not part of them.

Finish high school biology, please.

>>719136572
I could find more studies if you want. Google is very easy to use and I've got plenty of time.

>>719128735
kek

>>719136924
you keep telling yourself that

>>719128692 (OP)
We used to laugh at and make fun of retards who take this pronoun lunacy seriously.
What happened to this place?

>>719136620
It's gone full weekend at Bernie.

Anybody trying to pretend it can be saved is lying to you.

>>719136729
Literally the only issue republicans ever had with child grooming is the fact that the parents aren't being paid a bride sum like they used to.

>>719136760
>Kris was never totally socially isolated
Yes he is, until the events of the game
>That's basically the basis of their entire relationship with Noelle.
He liked pranking Noelle because he earnestly enjoyed her reactions. He does not like actually controlling people and hates (you) if you make him do it.
>The family is poor
Families with a TV and a car still buy girl clothes for girls
>We don't even know if that's his actual motivation
We do.
>Besides, if Kris was a girl Dess was probably the closest thing she ever had to a genuine big sister and female role model.
Girl Kris would not put the world in danger to save her big sister

>>719136668
>Everything you believe in and have read deserves the be burned away
>The best part is this has happened before, but this time the backlash will be global.
Correct. Western civilization really is finished.

Going to be a shame for the likes of the Ilad to be burned though. Hopefully Japs will keep it alive.

>>719136964
Reading comprehension is hard for ESL shitkskins isnt it.

>>719137003
>We have a actual list of classifications for humans and having 10 fingers is not part of them.
You could just stop posting instead of continuing to be wrong. Homo Sapiens have 10 fingers, our great ancestors might not have, but Homo Sapiens DO. You know what else Homo Sapiens have ? 2 sexes, because we have 2 gametes. Other species can have more than 2 sexes, and this only happens when there is more than 2 gametes. Humans only have 2.