Thread 719216990

Can we finally admit that Starfield isn't as bad as it was made out to be? I believe this game will be considered a cult classic in a few years.

I love you Todd, I really do, but Saarfield is shit. I'm sorry, OK? But it's the truth.

>>719216990 (OP)
nah it just sucks.
You know you don't HAVE to base all of your beliefs on nothing but being a contrarian, right? You don't have to pretend to like slop just because other people realize it's slop.

>>719216990 (OP)
STFU REDDIT TRANNY

>>719216990 (OP)
They should've made the character creation menu say male/female on day one and fired everyone who protests. It's the quickest way to purge incompetent people.

>>719216990 (OP)
always was good and really rewards your time
but troons hate it because indians took their jobs
and zoomers hate it because they can't focus on anything for more than five seconds
it will never see good steam chart numbers

>>719216990 (OP)
>I believe this game will be considered a cult classic in a few years.
No you don't.

Starfield is kino, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>719216990 (OP)
>no mods
nope sorry it's a bad game it's on the tier of those ai simulator games made by one person, that how bad it is.

>>719217816
>I must like this shit game just because trannies hate it
What a strange way of thinking.

>>719216990 (OP)
Checked the Nexus and over half of modders abandoned the game completely. There isn't much to warrant a reinstall, and Nexus wouldn't allow a overhaul to coat over the DEI shit. I wanted Fallout in space but it would worked out better in a more modern engine.

>>719218071
>pretending to hate something to fit in
Starfield fans have no principles

>>719216990 (OP)
It's one of my favorite games

>>719216990 (OP)
I'll believe it when MATN makes a 'Starfield Was Better Than You Think' video. Until then, no.

>>719216990 (OP)
I don't know how bad it was made out to be but it's pretty bad. I'll probably give it another go once they finish releasing dlc for it, assuming they're still planning on releasing more dlc.

>>719221217
there's starfield threads today specifically because they confirmed more dlc and updates

>>719219000
I bought it only because I figured that, no matter how gay and lame it is at launch, modders would probably add so much shit eventually that it would be fun even just as a sandbox. Profound disappointment.

>>719216990 (OP)
I stopped playing the moment I realised all I'm gonna be doing in the game is fast travelling and bouncing between loading screens

>>719219000
The main reason the Nexus got BTFO was a bunch of modders either taking their shit over to the paid mods store or having their shit stolen and put on the paid mods store

>>719217040
>>719217057
>>719218927
>>719217958
>>719218795
>>719219000
>>719223139
cope
Starfield is a modern masterpiece

>>719216990 (OP)
Not sure

>>719216990 (OP)
>I believe this game will be considered a cult classic in a few years.
same

Its only sin is being marketed to mainstream audiences.

It filtered the bethesdadrones, who are vocal in hating it. It really is one of the most noticeable IQ check games of the decade.

It's KINO IN SPACE if you are above median IQ.

>>719216990 (OP)
its bad
>t. bethesdaslop fan

>>719216990 (OP)
You're out of your mind.
I pumped like 60 hours into this game and 40 of that was spent in the ship builder because it was by far the most enjoyable aspect of it.

>>719216990 (OP)
>some youtube dude 10 years later
>you didn't understand Starfield

>>719216990 (OP)
jeet

>>719223239
we dont need to cope.
Starfield was bad from day 1, is still bad and has already nearly completely disappeared into media irrelevance like all DOA bad games. It wont even be remembered in the way total disasters like Concord are.
Maybe some cyberpunk tranny with a forehead cunt surgery will make a holotube about it 30 years from now but that's pretty much about it.
You are the one giga coping

Starfield's entire presence in the cultural zeitgeist is babyman yelling about pronouns

>>719216990 (OP)
it's overhated relative to other bethesda games, but it also legitimately sucks

>>719219000
Bethesda abandoned it so why wouldn't the modders also abandon it?

Nah, it's garbage. The Daikatana of its era.

>>719230674
Also those mediocre moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

Time to die

I will still not buy it
I will still not play it
I will still not even pirate it

>>719216990 (OP)
>Can we finally admit that Starfield isn't as bad as it was made out to be? I believe this game will be considered a cult classic in a few years.

>>719216990 (OP)
Its actually fucking shit, this site is rarely spot on with its criticism, but this game deserves it. So many small things adding up to a shit product. Would actually like to give some of it a go, but I just cant stay interested for longer than 10 minutes

Easily Game of the decade. Of course the low IQ retards that make up /v/ can't appreciate it.

>>719216990 (OP)
It's generic RPG in a Bethesda coat. Which is fine, except for the fact it's a Bethesda game and should be more. Which is a shame.

>>719216990 (OP)
It's an acquired taste type of vidya, not everyone is going to be able to get into it, that much is clear.

>>719216990 (OP)
The outrage was more over Todd making this instead of TES VI and the game coming out completely mediocre. Starfield had had no cultural impact. People who aren't into gaming have never heard of it. Nobody can recognize a single character or symbol or line of dialogue.

>>719216990 (OP)
/v/ just hates popular good games like starfield, the fact that 2 years later you still see people seethe about it is hilarious.

>>719217816
>zoomers hate it because they can't focus on anything for more than five seconds
Ship (exterior) customization was the most well received part of the game

In food terms

Fallout new Vegas is like unlimited saucy buffalo wings with ranch

Fallout 3 is a store bought cheese pizza like digiorno

Fallout 4 is boxed Mac and Cheese.

Starfield is plain boiled rice but served cold with no salt, rice vinegar or onions sauce.

>>719235784
Starfield isn't popular. Literally the only people on earth who care about it are die-hard Bethesda and microcock fans, which is why even they abandoned the "but it's successful and everybody loves it!" narrative for "uuhhh it's an acquired taste ok? plebs wouldn't get it"

>>719216990 (OP)
I'll start writing my 5 hour video essay now and get ahead of the game
>The Misunderstood Masterpiece: A Starfield Story

i liked it

Well yeah, the Bethesda fanbase is a cult alright.

>>719236471
Skyrim is like a home cooked spaghetti bolognese. Not special, average, a filling tasty meal but more delicious with some Parmesan(mods) sprinkled on top

>>719216990 (OP)
its not bad for any mechanical reason, all the people complaining about that just dont know what a bethesda game is
its bad because its setting is incredibly boring and uninspired and so there is no real draw to exist within the world

>>719237525
I think people know very well what a bethesda game is, that's why they bash Todd for continuing to shit out overhyped garbage.

>>719219000
>it would worked out better in a more modern engine
Oh no, it's retarded

>>719216990 (OP)
Its a fucking terrible game

You know you've fucked up when even r*ddit turns on you
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/1ljre31/

>>719234708
LMFAO
holy shit that the most damning webm I've ever witnessed kek
what a piece of garbo "game"

>>719216990 (OP)
Go fuck yourself Emil

>>719235098
is that pazaak

>>719219000
>wanted Fallout in space
Wasn't that one called Outer Worlds

>>719238949
>Outer Troons

>>719238232
Reddit's got like 5 different Starfield subs, the main ones are pretty much a lost cause
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoSodiumStarfield/

>>719238896
Blackjack
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/14641

>>719216990 (OP)
The only reason people even remember saarfield is because ecelebs routinely use it for target practise whenever they hit a dry spell.

>>719239028
>muh le romance
Get a life

>>719216990 (OP)
Starfield is painfully generic and boring. Which is far worse than just being bad.

>>719239028
I love how because the only thing in The Outer Worlds that actually resembles Rick & Morty is that scientist looking like Rick you repeated that like four times in the meme and just padded it with random schizo shit.

>>719216990 (OP)
Dump sf, focus on tes6, give f5 to obsidian.

>>719239053
>le sodium
I hate what Last Jedi and Cyberpunk did for online discussion

>>719239458
You're getting more Starfield and you're gonna like it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zknfAghd-s

>>719239794
They didn't do shit, there's always been small cult following communities for the ignored or poorly received since before anyone of us were even born. That was honestly what the internet mainly consisted of in it's earlier years too before it became a platform for normalfag opinions.

>>719236471
>Oblivion
Chicken tenders, shitty but I liked them when I was a kid and they're kind of nostalgic.
>Skyrim
Spaghetti, very filling but kinda bland and with a weird texture.
>Fallout New Vegas
That mushy rice and banana(?) casserole(??) from your spic neighbors. Suprisingly fairly alright once you adjust to its taste. Altogether glad that I ate it but I wouldn't have it again.
>Fallout 4
A bag of chili flavored pretzels from the gas station. Chili and pretzels are both good, right? But this is cheap and tastes like ass while still being somehow bland.

>>719216990 (OP)
Kill yourself. I paid for this piece of shit. I got ripped off. I wanted to buy Todd's Little Lies fully knowing I'm making a fool out of myself and naively hoped he will prove me wrong. But he didn't. It was even worse than Fallout 4 and I genuinely tried to play it vanilla, I tried Bubba'ing it, tried cooming it up. Nothing, just a shit game made worse by being a Fallout. And Starfield doesn't even have mods. Or at least the last I checked there was nothing worthwhile.

>>719239458
>obshitian
>From the creators of Outer Worlds!
>and Avowed!
>and Outer Worlds 2!
Fuck no! This is no longer the studio that made FNV and KotOR2

>>719240256
Yeah I'm sure they were all called "sodium this" or "sodium that" which was what I was pointing out with that post, you idiot

>>719240626
Oh, well that's just a whiter variation of salty, a term that I'm pretty sure was slang since the 90s.

>>719238949
TOW and fallout share basically nothing in common

>>719216990 (OP)
My 56 year old colleague legit had hundreds of hours of fun with this one
he kept talking about how much money he has ingame and what ship he built
I dunno, it's made for a different demographic han 4chan users

>>719241267
sounds like sunk cost

>>719219000
has it been fully abandoned by modders? was waiting to do a replay when the game was in a better state down the line, shame they haven't stuck with it

You'd think people would have forgotten all about Starfield and focus all of their attention on No Man's Sky instead with how much it's progressed and seemingly giving players what they wanted out of space game. But it looks like it's still not quite scratching that itch if the resentment over Starfield is still going strong after all this time. I'm guess people deep down are not so willing to actually give up on it just yet.

>>719241487
When I played it couple years post release I was shocked at how garbage the sex mod selection was
>15 x billboards/magazines replaced with random AI porn

Wow thats sure to enhance my gamer experience. Shit AI porn

>>719241267
>Todd made a game for his fellow 55yo boomers, alienating the TES and Fallout audience in the process
Bravo

>>719216990 (OP)
I got all the trophies, but Bethesda really needs to fuck off with the full auto damage nerf in their games.
If they give automatic weapons the love it deserves, I'll play the game again and even dip my fingers in the modding.
It's great the Bethesda moving forward with more content. They really should offload official content and not burden the modding community that is ran mostly by wildcatters at the moment.
I really hope they don't kowtow to R*ddit and deviate from the hard-science NASA theme. The Skyrim mechanics are more than enough. I really don't give two shits about ayylmaos. We have fucking Star Wars and 40K rolling with that nonsense.

Todd did serve us the last Jew in the galaxy on a golden platter, I think he really does care about our interests

>>719242979
>alienating the TES and Fallout audience
Oh don't be so entitled, you people have many games within your own franchises to hold you over right now, including active support for MMOs

>>719242225
it's more because it's the first time a mainline Bethesda game has completely flopped, that's not really happened before, so of course it garnered more attention than most other games

>>719244049
None of that changes Starfield being the straw that broke the camel's back for people that liked the kind of gam Bethesda has been making since 2002
>you people have many games within your own franchises to hold you over
The last good Fallout came out 15 years ago and the last mainline TES, period, 14 years ago
>including active support for MMOs
You say that like it's a good thing

>>719244513
>liked the kind of gam Bethesda has been making since 2002
Unless you meant the story telling, every single game has been fundamentally different from one another outside of the open world which Starfield is no different, it's why devoted fans of Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim all tend to be at each others throats.

>1000 planets with nothing to do
Did they not play their own game? Did they think we wouldn't get bored in the first 5 minutes?

>>719244784
>outside of the open world which Starfield is no different
lol

>>719244784
>outside of the open world which Starfield is no different

>>719219000
Arthmoor won.

>>719216990 (OP)
>game made in the "go look at interesting stuff and occasionally have bad combat" engine has nothing to look at

>>719241487
it doesn't even have a script extender
not worth the effort

>>719245309
There is a script extender. https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/106

The truth is, Starfield is just extremely bad at being a Bethesda game.

>be in base
>sort out gear and grab what you need
>open map and pick location or quest
>head out
>2 minutes later something to fight
>2 minutes later something to explore
>2 minutes later something to interact with
>2 hours later
>completed 2 quests
>explored 1 dungeon
>looted 2 new pieces of gear
>encountered a new companion
>now you are at your target location to do what you actually wanted to do
>do the thing
>you've played the game for 4 hours and return to your base
>do some maintenance, eat, sleep, head out again

Steps 5 to 11 Bethesda just kinda forgot to implement. You still open your map but the whole emergent gameplay thing is just not there. You simply fast travel directly to where you want to go and do what you wanted to do. There is nothing to explore and there is nothing to find. Empty abandoned outposts and camps.

And the game has a fucking amazing framework of systems and mechanics. The whole ship building is top notch but it lacks depth, same with the outpost building. There is simply no reason to do it because it's all cosmetic. It doesn't open anything new. Todd he said he didn't want to force the player to do something that wasn't fun. But he ended with a game that doesn't force the player to do anything at all. So unless the player finds the act of doing something in and of itself fun there is no reason to do it.

For example outpost building. If that would unlock new quest lines or special gear or abilities players would actually build them. Or if they served as checkpoints to restock and refuel on longer trips or to off load/sell valuable cargo. Just an answer to the question "what does it do?" would be good.

>>719216990 (OP)
I am the biggest Bethesda cultist around and I even I realized (after 60 hours) that Starfield was complete dogshit

>>719217816
that's it? no "thirdies mad because they can't play it" or "the white man game"? It was a short-lived narrative, conveniently abandoned when screenshots and webms started being posted, but at least you could include them in your defense attempt.

>>719216990 (OP)
nobody gives a fuck about this game lol unlike fallout 4 it cant be modded to be good
its just dogshit
0 hope for fallout 5 or elder scrolls 6

>>719217816
>>719246503
Oh yeah another one, add the "the real game starts when you finish it and/or after 200 hours of play.".

>>719246503
I’m still convinced that the
>white man’s game!
Line was the result of a marketing head just fucking with his pajeet slaves, knowing full well what was in the game and what they’d have to defend.
There’s no way in hell that anyone who saw the demographics of the game would try that line unironically.

I heard from another anon that powers were supposed to be a thing you could have in Fallout 4 as part of some content associated with Salem that got cut from the final game. I wonder how differently that game would have been received as a result since a lot of people hated the Starborn stuff in Starfield.

>>719217816
How does it reward your time, I'm legitimately curious. Because it's the same 12 locations with identical spawns on every planet, it's the same handful of weapons, no quest has any baring on anything, because everything is randomly generated and every major quest was written in a vacuum without a lore bible so nothing references anything else or even understands parts of the setting established in other quest lines, because no one interacted during development so all quests were written without talking to people who made other quests, so they contradict each other. Do you mean because you can NG+ forever and get a single encounter changed 1.6% of the time?

>>719247673
It's like Mass Effect Andromeda but worse.

>>719247954
I was able to beat Starfield but I didn't even get to the open world before I was bored in Andromeda. You can ignore everything and just go around doing shit and some locations are interesting in concept but terrible in execution in Starfield, Andromeda doesn't even have that

>>719247954
The Spacefarer wtfpwn3ds Ryder

>wasn't as bad as it was made out to be
Maybe, but it still isn't very good. I wouldn't say "it's okay", I think it sucks.
>cult classic
No, it won't. To think so is just buyer's remorse with extra steps.

>>719248431
Looks like Cyberpunk but worse.

>>719216990 (OP)
Are the mods good yet, no? Then fuck off.

call me when it's €10 or somthing like that.
This game is not worth the price tag.

>literally no gore or dismemberment at all
Nah

>>719248838
The Spacefarer wtfpwn3ds V even harder

>>719216990 (OP)
It was so bad that it ruined their other games for me.

>>719248951
Mods literally are NEVER good though.

>>719249030
So this is how a break dancer is created.

>>719249024
Use Gorefield
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/12833

>>719248951
Yeah. Watchtower adds a lot of ship content. There are mods thar fix the POIs

>>719249258
>creation
I said mods, not offshored dlcs.

>>719249428
Creations are mods.

>>719216990 (OP)
If it had a smaller scale (say a single system with a couple planets you could travel to seamlessly) and didn't try to rip off 10 different games while doing everything they do a lot worse, it could've been salvageable. That wouldn't have made up for the garbage writing and insufferable characters but it would've been a start. I get the sense that Todd and friends had no idea what they wanted Starfield to be

>>719216990 (OP)
It wasn't the most terrible thing ever but it wasn't good either. 4/10. I'd give it another point if cuckstellation members weren't essential and you could kill them, absolutely insufferable cast you're forced to do the main quest with. I did like that one quest with the time fuckery but it was just a random side quest.

>NG+ multiverse mechanic
>opportunity for massive changes for every NG+ playthrough
>somehow, coincidentally, by miracle, every universe you go to is exactly the same save for a small chance that only one specific group of people have been affected and all it does is rush along the main quest so you can go through NG+ again
they should have just scrapped the whole multiverse shit if it was going to be so bland and inconsequential