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Anonymous No.719239186 >>719239331 >>719239510 >>719239802 >>719239968 >>719240521 >>719240861 >>719242108 >>719242686 >>719242939 >>719244681 >>719246757 >>719251395 >>719253280 >>719253640 >>719254580 >>719254589 >>719256953 >>719257070 >>719257126 >>719257767 >>719258949 >>719259591 >>719259667 >>719264862
>You have to kill me, Snake
>Even though thereโ€™s nothing stopping you from letting me go and just saying you killed me
Anonymous No.719239331 >>719239424 >>719239514 >>719240352 >>719245453 >>719264826
>>719239186 (OP)
Kruschev's forces would've needed to see her body as proof retard-kun
Anonymous No.719239424 >>719239493
>>719239331
Just take some random disfigured, unidentifiable body and say its her.
Anonymous No.719239493 >>719239635 >>719240106 >>719251315 >>719253553 >>719254812
>>719239424
>What's DNA?
Anonymous No.719239510 >>719239648
>>719239186 (OP)
>The Boss trains Big Boss
Brava, Kojima.
Anonymous No.719239514 >>719239608 >>719265931
>>719239331
You mean the same body that got blown up when they nuked the place?
Anonymous No.719239608 >>719239681
>>719239514
They only nuke the place if you fail
Anonymous No.719239635
>>719239493
Just take some random disfigured, unidentifiable DNA, inject into the corpse, and say its her.
Anonymous No.719239648 >>719239729
>>719239510
Imagine they make babies
>Small Boss, Bossy, Boss Jr.,
Anonymous No.719239659
Most retarded post I've seen here today
Anonymous No.719239681
>>719239608
Anonymous No.719239729 >>719239797 >>719240164
>>719239648
>Boss baby
It's been done
Anonymous No.719239797
>>719239729
Getting a lot of MGS3 vibes from this game...
Anonymous No.719239802 >>719239839 >>719240084 >>719242686 >>719251195 >>719254791 >>719257404 >>719259587 >>719259591 >>719260018 >>719260764 >>719263094
>>719239186 (OP)
What did she even want anyway, I don't remember? Some bullshit about soldiers? I think after like 7 of these games I still have no idea what Outer Heaven is actually supposed to be.

After watching DSP play these games, I'm not even joking, it did lift the veil from my eyes. The plots really are japslop weebcringe nonsense. Kojima is a hack. Otacon crying over some sniper skank that he barely even engaged with at all, just ugh. Ugh. However, the gameplay is outstanding, revolutionary. MGS3 gameplay is probably the best gameplay I've ever experienced in 30 years of gaming.
Anonymous No.719239839 >>719250897
>>719239802
She wanted everyone to do nothing and win
Anonymous No.719239968
>>719239186 (OP)
It always bothered me why she had to die the bomb blast wouldnt leave any traces, it makes no logical sense.


Maybe we will get a retcon how athe even.ts of mgs 3 was all propaganda film made by zero to make snake look good, and that the boss is living somewhere safe
Anonymous No.719240084 >>719240271
>>719239802
>I wantโ€ฆoverpriced healthcare in America
Anonymous No.719240106
>>719239493
Why not do what they did in 911, with how the passports of the terrorist was found on the floor of nyc in perfect condition all grouped up in perfect condition. So cut off big bosses hair or toe or finger. Let the place get bombed leave the finger or take just the finger as evidence the boss is dead no one can prove anything.
Anonymous No.719240164
>>719239729
Kojima said he got the inspiration for mgs and boss from the boss baby trilogy. He also said it's the best trilogy put there.
Anonymous No.719240271
>>719240084
>I want open border imigration so pir white women can marry blacks and children can get a sex change before they hit puberty.


Imagine the boss saying that
Anonymous No.719240352 >>719240409 >>719245152 >>719248170
>>719239331
Still doesn't explain why Snake just had to be the one to do it.
Anonymous No.719240409
>>719240352
There was no better agent suited for the job
Anonymous No.719240456 >>719240964 >>719247485 >>719250325 >>719254413 >>719255094
Dogovornichok
Anonymous No.719240462 >>719240630 >>719240635 >>719245640 >>719247231 >>719264003
There was a certain someone behind the scenes making sure everything was going according to plan, thoughever?
Anonymous No.719240521 >>719240737 >>719245995
>>719239186 (OP)
If you think about it there was no reason for the boss and the cobra unit to die. It was o pointless. The hole thing was done to steal the philosophers legacy which snake did on his own. The boss and the cobra unit had no effect on the mission or ocelot or even eva to a point. Snake could have done the whole thing.
Anonymous No.719240630 >>719241039 >>719250738 >>719263993 >>719263993 >>719264685
>>719240462
Skull faces motivation for revenge against zero and snake is so dumb. The guy is upset over stolen valor o does all that crap he has this military weapons and stuff he could have just lived a good life doing what he wanted
Anonymous No.719240635 >>719240693 >>719241039 >>719256294 >>719260663
>>719240462
Did he really personally clean up Naked's piss, shit and vomit?
Anonymous No.719240693 >>719248959 >>719256294
>>719240635
Yes no traces but it makes no sense the guns and ammo are Russian theres no way to track it back to the usa. The games story is kinda retarded
Anonymous No.719240737 >>719241138
>>719240521
this is really the kind of the game the more you think about it the more the whole thing falls apart
Anonymous No.719240861
>>719239186 (OP)
>Even though thereโ€™s nothing stopping you from letting me go and just saying you killed me
It wouldnt be kinomatic enough
Anonymous No.719240964 >>719253479
>>719240456
this is why they had to include the "outdated views" warning.
Anonymous No.719241039 >>719241542 >>719242076
>>719240635
>>719240630
He also had to go back and pick up his bloody bandages, and clean up the food waste he left behind. I ate a LOT of calorie mates and threw the boxes right on the ground where i stood. Not my problem.
No wonder the guy was so pissed off
Anonymous No.719241138
>>719240737
because mgs's plot has never been driven by purely mechanical logical. that would be boring. things happen because they're thematically appropriate.
Anonymous No.719241542
>>719241039
It's just a job if he dodnt like it he didnt have to do it? We all had jobs we dont like and had bullies in them but we don hold a grudge for that long
Anonymous No.719241770
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Anonymous No.719242076 >>719242272 >>719242304
>>719241039
new theory just dropped - The kerotan frogs were actually cameras placed by XOF to monitor Big Boss. The clearly have some electronic components since they make croaking noises when shot.
Anonymous No.719242108 >>719242441 >>719242842
>>719239186 (OP)
>completely missing the themes of the story, the arcs of the characters, and the point of the game through nonsense 'hurrr why didn't they just fly to mordor' reductions
Why do Zooms LOVE to do this?
Anonymous No.719242272
>>719242076
Thats... such an obvious and somewhat plausible theory, i have no idea why it took so long for me to hear about it.
Anonymous No.719242304
>>719242076
Anonymous No.719242432 >>719242760
Is there any chance we'll get a Metal Gear 1 remake ?
Anonymous No.719242441
>>719242108
Themes donโ€™t matter, all that matters is if the script is bulletproof
Anonymous No.719242686 >>719242923
>>719239186 (OP)
she wanted to die

>>719239802

Steal her daddy organization money for the USA, im with you ocelot role in mgs3 its fully retarded for he to be the og support of snake
Anonymous No.719242760
>>719242432
maybe the future will say
Anonymous No.719242842 >>719242913 >>719243317
>>719242108
fly to mordor doesnt apply unles we complain why didnt ocelot pluged of zero life support and destroyed the patriots by himself
Anonymous No.719242913 >>719243098
>>719242842
>I don't want the world to be run by rich, shadowy old jews
>better work for them for 50 years
Anonymous No.719242923 >>719243195
>>719242686
>she wanted to die
Why, is she stupid?
Anonymous No.719242939 >>719243248 >>719243981 >>719244117 >>719253451
>>719239186 (OP)
>thereโ€™s a guy called Skullface who is the entire reason youโ€™ve gotten to this point, Snake.
>he wants the global language of English replace with the language of โ€œNukesโ€
>Male to female, Snake
Anonymous No.719243098
>>719242913
lel
Anonymous No.719243195 >>719243276 >>719263693
>>719242923
No, she was tired and didn't see a place for soldiers like her anymore. She hoped through the events of Snake Eater that she could, through her final mission, influence the next generation via Snake to move towards a better world, but since Big Boss and Zero are full retards, they misunderstood what she was trying to teach them
Anonymous No.719243248
>>719242939
God, MGSV really does ruin everything it touches
Anonymous No.719243276
>>719243195
She should've wrote a manifesto or something. At least started a grassroots movement so people get the right idea.
Anonymous No.719243317
>>719242842
>why didn't Ocelot unplug Zero
Because Zero had nothing to do with it anymore by then and Big Boss doing it was symbolic.
>why didn't Ocelot destroy the Patriots
Because FOXALIVE didn't just destroy the AIs, it preserved all the parts of them that were responsible for running the world without crashing the whole system, which would have led to total global chaos and an even higher death toll than the War Economy

Ocelot literally couldn't do a goddamn thing by himself
Anonymous No.719243981
>>719242939
leave the game and make a double to work for you? he was literally who and nothing until he sabotaged the oil drig
Anonymous No.719244117 >>719244357 >>719244714 >>719263613 >>719266741
>>719242939
>also btw The Pain and The End had small organisms inside them which were the source of their abilities
Anonymous No.719244357
>>719244117
Actually not the worst ass pull I've ever heard.
Anonymous No.719244681 >>719244980 >>719245004
>>719239186 (OP)
Do people just forget the entire plot of the game? She had to die by America's hand to prevent nuclear war because Volgin went and fucked everything up with the Davy Crockett during the Virtuous Mission. Originally she was just supposed to infiltrate Volgin's ranks under the guise of defection to get close to the Philosopher's Legacy and whatever secret weapon Sokolov was working on.
Anonymous No.719244714 >>719246898
>>719244117
Isn't that already the explanation in MGS3? I'm pretty sure End has codec call about him being bonded with some moss or something that allows him to photosynthesise and sit in one place for days
Anonymous No.719244980 >>719245584 >>719248630 >>719251627
>>719244681
>did you forget 18 hours of cutscenes and codec calls?
Yes
However I can still remember the location of every single trap, mine, kerotan, enemy patrol, food and item location etc. Which is why I really hope they've shuffled some of that stuff around in Delta. Gonna play it this weekend like it's 2004 again.
Anonymous No.719245004 >>719245218 >>719249803 >>719259451
>>719244681
Yea but hes saying just pretend to kill her. Which is risky af, think of all the people who die if somebody sees her alive later
Anonymous No.719245152
>>719240352
Yes it does.
1) Other top agents were on house arrest after the Virtuous Mission out of fear more would defect
2) Since Snake and FOX were part of the mission where everything got fucked up, they were given a last chance "clean up your mess" mission in lieu of execution
3) Snake being the Boss's protege put him in the best position to assassinate her since he knew her tactics, fighting style, and strategy (and also it was a win-win for the States, since they could immediately prop Snake up as Big Boss the war hero and basically fill The Boss's shoes immediately)
Anonymous No.719245218
>>719245004
Also neither her nor (by the end of the game) Snake would have been cool with that
Anonymous No.719245453
>>719239331
Alligators ate it. sorry.
Anonymous No.719245584
>>719244980
I don't think they did. I'm looking forward to playing it eventually but I'm not paying full price for just an HD reskin.
I was hoping they'd add a kind of "remix" option that shuffles stuff around or at the very least add some optional enlarged areas like the cabin area before The End
That said I'm glad they didn't fuck with it too hard
Anonymous No.719245640 >>719245852
>>719240462
People shit on this but the fact that it wasn't memoryholed and fans genuinely expected the possibility of Skullface being in Delta means that it was a good addition to the story
Anonymous No.719245852 >>719246234 >>719246357
>>719245640
It's not that it's good, it's that it's memorable.
The whole idea that there was someone sneaking around making sure Snake got through Snake Eater by being his unknown personal janny is so fucking stupid that it's hilarious.
Anonymous No.719245995 >>719246441
>>719240521
>If you think about it there was no reason for the boss and the cobra unit to die.

They had outlived their use to the almighty government, that's the only needed reason.
Anonymous No.719246117 >>719246301 >>719246426
Would you have sex with the Boss?
Anonymous No.719246234 >>719246720 >>719247220
>>719245852
He wasn't picking up his poop and crouching behind him like a cartoon character. He commanded a special shadow unit that covered tracks for Snake and provided support. It's a great idea and they should have included it in Delta somehow.
Anonymous No.719246301
>>719246117
I'd engage in CQC (Close Quarters Copulation) with her.
Anonymous No.719246357 >>719246720 >>719246768 >>719249524 >>719265335 >>719265438
>>719245852
Is it a stupid idea though? Think back to the Resistance series, Resistance 1. Those X-Ray guys you find lying around, turns out they were secretly monitoring and even surreptitiously assisting Hale the whole time. I actually like the idea.
Anonymous No.719246426
>>719246117
Yes, just so I can tell Ocelot that I fucked his mom.
Anonymous No.719246441 >>719246534 >>719247869
>>719245995
Also they were loyal to the Boss they defected as well. And since The Boss had to keep up the ruse, it's not like she could have gone "nah guys sit this one out wink wink" when Operation Snake Eater kicked up
Anonymous No.719246534
>>719246441
The little people only exist to be used and tossed aside by the government. If the government decides to torture everyone forever, the government should be able to do so. Hail the almighty government. Hail Mammon. Hail Moloch. Hail evil.
Anonymous No.719246720 >>719246920 >>719246957 >>719247068
>>719246357
>>719246234
It's not a bad twist in and of itself, it's just so clearly an afterthought that it retroactively does a disservice to Snake and his arc during MGS3.
Anonymous No.719246757
>>719239186 (OP)
>she didn't have to die
How do you think Russia would react knowing the Boss gave Volgin nukes while working for the US as a double agent?
Anonymous No.719246768
>>719246357
Could have had a playable XOF operative doing a bunch of missions and then reporting back to their camp where you can meet Skullface. Hell they could still make it a DLC.
Anonymous No.719246898
>>719244714
MGS3's explanation is they've all hit some kind of "ascension" and actually become supernatural to varying degrees. The Fear is the most mundane of them since he just has a split tongue and super-double joints that were said to be surgery, then we see him run across water. Or The Fury is a guy in a spacesuit with a specialized flamethrower, but he still has some control over fire displayed.
Anonymous No.719246920 >>719247068 >>719247330
>>719246720
The legend of Naked Snake was always overblown and that was the point of MGSV.
Anonymous No.719246957 >>719247336 >>719263804
>>719246720
It's a better explanation of how Snake got out of his jail cell than literally "lol a ghost told him the radio frequency" . Maybe it was XOF that ensured Johnny 'found' those sleep cigarettes.
Anonymous No.719247068
>>719246920
>>719246720
Right, it's like the Ghost of Tshusima. What really makes the Ghost and Snake dangerous is all of their support, but that doesn't ever make it into the legend.
Anonymous No.719247220 >>719247504
>>719246234
>a special shadow unit that covered tracks for Snake and provided support.
Not only is the point of FOX/FOXHOUND meant to be that agents go in entirely alone, the story is the starting point of Big Boss becoming the most skilled and accomplished such special agent in human history.

What is gained by having him supported by other agents in the field who are there entirely to prop up the "one man army" like training wheels on a child's bike? Does the US not have any faith in its best operative or their special forces?
Anonymous No.719247231
>>719240462
Clean it up janny
Anonymous No.719247330
>>719246920
Well you see maybe MGSV should have demonstrated that in its own game without retconning others
Anonymous No.719247336
>Zero, who tried to get Fox to become a full on unit(mentions during virtuous mission intro) and such just so happens to have a sneaking unit at hand that's better than the sneaking unit he's trying to prop up and the CIA was fine with that when they already have Ocelot and Boss as fail-safes to be extra safe
>>719246957
Johnny literally says he got them from your bag. Nigga just looked through it which isn't odd at all. He most likely thought those were normal ciggies and thought it would do no harm for you to smoke. Did Skullface also make sure that Snake Eater would happen in the first place by making sure I'd play the game and finish it?
Anonymous No.719247339 >>719247831 >>719263962
Wow so amazing!

I'm sure glad the gameplay is identical! No one should touch Kojima-sama's vision he's untouchable!

We could have gotten an actual good remake like RE2 or 4 instead we got this outdated dogshit game for children.
Anonymous No.719247485
>>719240456
da prophet hdeo kojimer
Anonymous No.719247504
>>719247220
It just exposes that the mythos behind special elite forces is all smoke and mirrors and the real "heroes" in wars are just pilots and snipers bitchkilling from miles away.
Anonymous No.719247831 >>719248608
>>719247339
RE4r is objectively worse than the original.
and RE2r is a completely different game with a different plot, different events and cut content.
you can't play it and then claim you've played RE2 because it has basically nothing in common with it.
Anonymous No.719247869 >>719248078
>>719246441
I thought cobras were already with the ussr? Doesnt boss say something like itโ€™s good to be back with them again
Anonymous No.719248078 >>719248229
>>719247869
They had disbanded after WW2 which is why she says that. It's not clear where they were in the meantime but they clearly leave it all behind to follow The Boss again
Anonymous No.719248170
>>719240352
you want more people to know about this secret?
Anonymous No.719248229 >>719248628
>>719248078
I thought that they were with russia the whole time like how the boss was with the us the whole time. Fury was on russiaโ€™s space program after all
Anonymous No.719248608 >>719249908 >>719254009 >>719263886
>>719247831
RE4R is objectively better than the original
Anonymous No.719248628
>>719248229
It's possible. The Fury confirms he stayed in Russia to become a cosmonaut but the others don't say, AFAIK.
Anonymous No.719248630
>>719244980
Stop playing demakes retard
Anonymous No.719248959
>>719240693
Snakeโ€™s pistol and tranq gun are American
Anonymous No.719249524 >>719249727 >>719250635
>>719246357
The SRPA is different because you could find evidence of their presence (mostly corpses and radio comms) all throughout England during the events of Fall of Man before they captured Hale at the end of the game.
Skull Face and XOF being present during Snake Eater is clearly a half assed retcon done in an attempt to make Skull Face relevant. In game franchise known for it's attention to detail and Easter eggs, there is not one reference to a separate SF team trailing Snake to help cover is tracks and bail him out of trouble.
Anonymous No.719249727 >>719250726 >>719250757 >>719251852
>>719249524
Delta could have fixed that
Anonymous No.719249803
>>719245004
Not like anyone sees her die either though
Anonymous No.719249908 >>719255068 >>719263924
>>719248608
Gameplay wise maybe. But the characterization, tone, and story is completely different (which also lends to certain levels being cut) I'm more inclined to say it is its own thing.
Anonymous No.719250325 >>719250824 >>719258256 >>719264786
>>719240456
She wasn't even right as of 2004. Russia was still very much hostile to us, just in a different way, and still very much playing a fucked up sovereignty game. The Second Chechen War was ongoing at the time. Russia was still doing bullshit in Africa and the Middle East, and still doing all kinds of fucked up espionage, including killing journalists and political dissidents outside of their own borders.
Anonymous No.719250562
How do I switch to legacy filter?
Anonymous No.719250635 >>719250726 >>719250826 >>719251317 >>719264776
>>719249524
While I haven't played Delta, the fact that people have come out and said that is has no references to Skull Face and XOF is genuinely surprising. You'd think that would be the reason why they chose to remake MGS 3 out of all of them. I know one of the devs stated that they had planned to minimise any and all changes between the original and the remake but still.
Anonymous No.719250726
>>719250635
meant to reply to >>719249727
Anonymous No.719250738 >>719253776
>>719240630
Skull Face's main motivation was sour grapes over the fact that his Hungarian ass had to learn English as a kid.
Anonymous No.719250757 >>719251223
>>719249727
It would have ruined MGS3's tension and stakes. You'd have to explain who XOF is so newcomers aren't confused since Konami is clearly hoping to draw in a new batch of players by remaking MGS in chronological order (at least 1-3. We'll see if they tackle 4 or just port it)
Anonymous No.719250824
>>719250325
the game takes place in the 60s
Anonymous No.719250826 >>719250884 >>719251223
>>719250635
If it was his remake he would have done it
Anonymous No.719250884 >>719254948
>>719250826
He wouldn't do something as creatively bankrupt as a remake in the first place.
Anonymous No.719250897
>>719239839
>She wanted everyone to do nothing and win
EXACTLY this actually
and it's pretty nice
Anonymous No.719251195 >>719262525
>>719239802
She was loyal to America, all that bs about how socialism is awesome was just a cover because she couldn't tell snake she was a double agent. At the end of MGS4 BB realized that whole thing he took away from her about a unified world where soldiers fight for themselves and not a country was just his idea he projected as the 'boss's will' because America fucked him so hard.
Anonymous No.719251223
>>719250757
It'd be good to remake 4 so Act 3 can be more than a glorified cutscene and Act 5 can be longer than 2 hallways and a boss fight.

>>719250826
Honestly, he'd probably just make Snake Eater from Skull Faces perspective.
Anonymous No.719251315 >>719253161
>>719239493
DNA tests weren't that advanced back then, if they existed at all
Anonymous No.719251317 >>719251839
>>719250635
Oh anon, there was no creativity involved in the decision to remake 3. Konami just picked the first one chronologically to begin the remake slop era of MGS3
Anonymous No.719251395 >>719251878
>>719239186 (OP)
>snake you have to kill me then put by brain in a machine and make me float around for years and years as a weird cyberbrain, snake. You simply must do this.
What the actual fuck
Anonymous No.719251627
>>719244980
I've got some bad news for you bro.
Anonymous No.719251839
>>719251317
Of MGS*
Anonymous No.719251852 >>719252969
>>719249727
No thanks. Skullface secretly tailing snake and fixing all of his fuck-ups and also spying on all the drama between Boss and Snake just kills the emotional gravitas of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if Konami just ignores him when making new games since he doesn't really add anything outside of TPP anyways.
Anonymous No.719251878 >>719254479
>>719251395
snake only kills her, he doesnt do the dyke ai shit
Anonymous No.719252858 >>719253129
Iโ€™m a bit foggy with the skullface stuff, but where does it explicitly say that he is physically on site picking up snakeโ€™s cartridges etc? I always interpreted him cleaning up after him to mean the bureocratic mess that was caused by volgin firing the nuke at virtuous mission, so FOX could arrange operation snake eater to make up for it
Anonymous No.719252894
She didn't want to live anymore.
Anonymous No.719252969 >>719253241
>>719251852
it also doesn't make sense at least for Operation Snake Eater since Zero literally tells snake to leave at least somewhat of presence to show Khrushchev that America actually followed through with the demands
Anonymous No.719253129 >>719253420 >>719253654
>>719252858
I think it mentioned active support, which is probably why Snake found a handy torch wrapped with fabric and doused with flammable pitch in a random cave, or why there just happened to be a crocodile hat lying around.
Anonymous No.719253161
>>719251315
>DNA tests weren't that advanced back then, if they existed at all
In the real world
I'm MG world they had giant nuke mechas in the 60s and fully developed cloning procedures in the 70s.
Anonymous No.719253241
>>719252969
The rocket drone thing he arrives in that The Boss later blows up basically covered that.
Anonymous No.719253280
>>719239186 (OP)
It's because despite all the nice words about dreaming of true peace and whatever, she still suffers from the lifelong psychosis that is being a soldier and following the orders of superiors to the end even when it leads to selfdestruction, and she imparts this madness to Snake/Big Boss as well.
Anonymous No.719253420
>>719253129
>Snake found a handy torch wrapped with fabric and doused with flammable pitch in a random cave, or why there just happened to be a crocodile hat lying around.
This could easily be explained by gameplay so I'm not sure why Kojima felt the need to do it especially when he ignores the other glaring issue of Ocelot's relation to the Boss.
Anonymous No.719253451
>>719242939
Fucking awful, I pretend MGSV never happened
Anonymous No.719253453
ITT newfags to the series (Delta babies) think they are smug

pathetic honestly, we had this same threads 20 years ago
Anonymous No.719253479
>>719240964
I don't recognize this. It's completely fictional. Literally no one could be offended.
Anonymous No.719253553
>>719239493
Nigger anon, there are literal soldiers controlling hornets and lightning, come up with some shit to falsify her DNA. This is fiction after all.
Anonymous No.719253640
>>719239186 (OP)
Things, women will never understand.
Anonymous No.719253654 >>719253793
>>719253129
>why Snake found a handy torch wrapped with fabric and doused with flammable pitch in a random cave
I don't remember if this was in the original but in Delta, the torch is over the skeleton of a guy who died there
Anonymous No.719253776
>>719250738
Perfectly sympathetic, honestly.
Anonymous No.719253793
>>719253654
Fake plastic skeleton planted there by XOF to make it less suspicious. Kojima is always 5 steps ahead of you, kid.
Anonymous No.719253854 >>719254049 >>719254090 >>719254104 >>719254557 >>719254695 >>719262489
>watch some random stream on Twich play Dealt just to see how the game looks like
>streamer is at The End fight and still calls big boss as Solid Snake
>watch for 3 minutes more
>streamer is barging how he beat MGS 1-5 in 4 days

these are the nu-MGS fans
Anonymous No.719254009
>>719248608
Coming from a guy who loves the remake, not even slightly.
Anonymous No.719254049
>>719253854
Good.
Anonymous No.719254090 >>719254230
>>719253854
>the moment when The Best Is Yet to Come starts played in MGS4 was probably completely lost on him
Zoomers were a mistake.
Anonymous No.719254104
>>719253854
>still calls big boss as Solid Snake
That's nothing new, my dad used to do the same
Anonymous No.719254230
>>719254090
brave of you to assume that he watched the ending credits of any game
Anonymous No.719254413
>>719240456
Russia and America were enemies even when the game came out but obviously from her perspective she wouldn't know that because this is the 60s.
Anonymous No.719254479
>>719251878
How did they get her brain to put it in a computer if it wasn't his idea?
Anonymous No.719254557 >>719254867
>>719253854
>oh no, I can't believe people are playing the game wrong! woe is me!
stupid fucking esl.
Anonymous No.719254580
>>719239186 (OP)
It was a different time.
Anonymous No.719254589 >>719254727
>>719239186 (OP)
why was there a giant explosion before the boss appeared? is that her ability like all the cobras have one?
Anonymous No.719254695
>>719253854
Brace yourself, it's only going to get worse.
Anonymous No.719254727
>>719254589
she had a snuke
Anonymous No.719254791 >>719254883
>>719239802
>After watching DSP play these games
Everything you say after that is irrelevant
Anonymous No.719254812
>>719239493
>snake, try to remember the basics of DNA
Anonymous No.719254848 >>719255537 >>719255682 >>719260545
>Takaya Hashi, the Japanese voice actor for Skull Face in Metal Gear Solid V, has passed away at the age of 72.
Anonymous No.719254867 >>719255134
>>719254557
yes people not even knowing that Big Boss is not Solid is playing the game very wrong, kys fag
Anonymous No.719254883
>>719254791
I was a Kojima fanboy before TIHYDP but seeing a guy goofing off and clowning around did expose for me that the games are not some high art beyond all reproach.
Anonymous No.719254948 >>719254985
>>719250884
Mgs3ds
Anonymous No.719254985
>>719254948
That's a port, not a remake
Anonymous No.719255068
>>719249908
You know, you people like to bitch about Reddit, yet youโ€™re upset they didnโ€™t keep in all the Reddit quips
Anonymous No.719255094
>>719240456
there are still 75 years in the 21st century so who nose :^)
Anonymous No.719255134
>>719254867
You're a creep.
Anonymous No.719255537
>>719254848
>doesn't get referenced
>dies
Anonymous No.719255682
>>719254848
they killed my nigga
Anonymous No.719256294 >>719256765 >>719256969 >>719257398
>>719240635
>>719240693
Only virtuous mission was "no traces". For snake eater, snake is told specifically to leave traces so there's evidence that America was the one who solved the situation
Anonymous No.719256765 >>719257303 >>719264417 >>719265040
>>719256294
>You must leave no traces, Snake
>Which is why we gave you this gun, that will leave traces
Anonymous No.719256953 >>719257065 >>719257267
>>719239186 (OP)
How did Kojimbo possibly expect me to believe a 40 year old woman was responsible for winning WWII and could throw a 200 pound man around easily?
Anonymous No.719256969 >>719257140 >>719257159
>>719256294
Both of them were no American evidence, they were supposed to be clandestine missions on both counts
Anonymous No.719257060 >>719259321 >>719265132
Mommybrosโ€ฆ
Anonymous No.719257065 >>719257135
>>719256953
me balancing my ability to suspend disbelief for storytelling with my actual "kill all women" misogyny
Anonymous No.719257070
>>719239186 (OP)
Woman moment
Anonymous No.719257126
>>719239186 (OP)
What are the KGB, the CIA and the MSS.
Anonymous No.719257135
>>719257065
literally me anon
Anonymous No.719257140 >>719259047
>>719256969
No
Captcha:NYGGH
Anonymous No.719257159
>>719256969
Youโ€™re objectively wrong. Zero says plain as day Snake is expected to leave evidence that he was there as proof that an American had a hand in killing the boss and Volgin
Anonymous No.719257267
>>719256953
Kojima is the one man that Synthetic Man canโ€™t beat. Donโ€™t try it.
Anonymous No.719257303 >>719257387 >>719258905 >>719265040
>>719256765
A soldier as good as Snake would almost certainly be collecting any casings and tranq darts as he went, but you don't do this in gameplay because it's tedious as fuck.
Anonymous No.719257387 >>719258669 >>719258905 >>719264556
>>719257303
>wasting time looking for casings and darts in jungle brush

how retarded are you anon?
Anonymous No.719257398
>>719256294
Can't he just use russian weapons ?
Anonymous No.719257404
>>719239802
TRVKE
Anonymous No.719257624 >>719257758
>Triangle is roll
>Circle is crouch
Why?? I mean I'm glad I can just slap them back where they're supposed to be but why???
Anonymous No.719257758
>>719257624
No clue who the fuck set up the default button layout, especially when you can change the layout to match phantom pain almost 1:1
Anonymous No.719257767 >>719257860
>>719239186 (OP)
She was. She wanted to die. She would've stopped him if he tried that and probably tried to kill him. She had bombs coming to their location so she wasn't going to live anyway.
Anonymous No.719257860 >>719258428
>>719257767
>She wanted to die
Literally zero evidence to support this
Anonymous No.719258256
>>719250325
>Russia was still very much hostile to us
They asked to join NATO right around this time, lol.
>The Second Chechen War was ongoing at the time
You say it like shooting terrorists that take over schools and hospitals some kind of anti-west master plan. Or are you one of those retards who doesn't know that Chechnya was a region of Russia and not a sovereign state, and it was all an anti-terrorist operation?
Anonymous No.719258421 >>719259197
why does snake have a bruise on his right cheek in the remake
i dont remember that in the original
Anonymous No.719258428 >>719258673
>>719257860
Entire point of the final fight. She calls bombers on her own location and literally tells Snake to take her life. Why do you think she's there at all if she didn't want to die?
Anonymous No.719258669 >>719258905 >>719259047
>>719257387
>A highly trained special ops soldier leaving evidence behind despite being given a "leave no trace" order that specifically includes bullets and cartridges
The only retard here is you, friend
Anonymous No.719258673 >>719259437
>>719258428
Because thatโ€™s the mission
Anonymous No.719258905
>>719257303
>>719257387
>>719258669
Silly anons that's what XOF is for :^)
Anonymous No.719258949 >>719259268 >>719259496
>>719239186 (OP)
It's kind of bullshit that the mission was about the philosophers legacy. Sure they get it, but US government never asks for it, they still award Snake with a medal and a title, there's literally no follow-up to it until Zero gets it and uses it to build a private spy company in the US. And nobody even asks where he got the money for it.

And how was Volgin even funding shit with it in USSR of all places?
Anonymous No.719259047 >>719259112
>>719258669
>>719257140
Anonymous No.719259112
>>719259047
That's during Snake Eater. Major Zero issues a no trace order during the Virtuous Mission which is what I'm talking about.
Anonymous No.719259197
>>719258421
I donโ€™t know but itโ€™s bugging the hell out of me. He looks like heโ€™s got herpes on his face
Anonymous No.719259268
>>719258949
Krueschev was buckbroken so Volgin could do pretty much anything he wanted
Anonymous No.719259321 >>719259423 >>719259428 >>719260551 >>719264783
>>719257060
How does a cesarean section scar you up like that? Who did it, Dr. Zoidberg?
Anonymous No.719259423 >>719264934
>>719259321
She gave birth after getting shot on fucking D-Day, she should be glad she didn't lose a tit
Anonymous No.719259428 >>719264934
>>719259321
She did it herself in the middle of a war zone anon, that's why it's so fucked up
Anonymous No.719259437
>>719258673
Yes, she wanted to die to fulfill her mission
Anonymous No.719259451
>>719245004
If they could transform medic into fake big boss they could turn the boss into just some woman, a huge pair of tits, a BBL and no one would be looking at her face
Anonymous No.719259454 >>719259572 >>719259853 >>719260305
> Naked Snake get beat the fuck out in every cutscenes by The Boss
> Final boss: Just press triangle to counter The Boss's grab and make her fall on the ground
Anonymous No.719259496 >>719260265
>>719258949
Why doesn't people understand that money was still a thing in the USSR and even if the common folk wouldn't see the money, it would be used through the government and even the underworld to fund tons of shit in the military and research?
Anonymous No.719259572 >>719260064
>>719259454
The point was that Naked had gotten better at CQC the more the game progresses, he went from getting absolutely washed by the boss, to kinda holding his ground more, to being her equal in a short time span
Anonymous No.719259587 >>719259659
>>719239802
>What did she even want anyway,
a world where soldiers are appreciated after the war is over. Where they would always have a place
Anonymous No.719259591 >>719262798
>>719239186 (OP)
>>719239802
>i want brown people in western countries
Anonymous No.719259659 >>719267662
>>719259587
Literally just create a charity called Fairness for Veterans or something, what the fuck.
Anonymous No.719259667 >>719259993
>>719239186 (OP)
I genuinely hope to see this thread every day until we get some solid answers.
Anonymous No.719259853 >>719260064
>>719259454
1. Snake had gotten a lot better at CQC after going through the Cobras
2. The Boss was pulling her punches by the end
Anonymous No.719259993
>>719259667
For now, weโ€™ll just have to settle for some liquid answers
Anonymous No.719260018 >>719260194 >>719268176
>>719239802
Just world peace but not to do anything directly about it. She was like the ultimate centrist. It's stupid but it's not complicated or unclear. Wasn't even really about soldiers, Boss died because she was totally willing to be a tool of the government and be endlessly loyal to a country that didn't give a shit about her or soldiers or anything.
Anonymous No.719260064
>>719259853
>>719259572
I kind of wish he held his own against her more in the final time they're together prior to the fight at the end. She pretty much disarms him and flips him on his ass immediately.
Anonymous No.719260194 >>719260397
>>719260018
>I want world peace
>how do you propose we achieve that?
>Yes.
Anonymous No.719260265
>>719259496
Because you can't bribe an official with billion dollars, since he has no way to spend it without exposing his ways. It's one thing to bribe a cop so that he eats better sausage tonight, but with the legacy we're talking 'Volgin bought an entire fucking fortress with it, with attack helicopters', and that sort of corruption is both obscenely visible and the only one that can benefit from it is Volgin, while the generals who redirect entire battalions to Volgin get executed.
Anonymous No.719260305
>>719259454
The Boss was on her period at the time, however being a trained warrior she was able to hide the fact throughout the whole fight.
Anonymous No.719260397
>>719260194
*lightbulb flashes above head*
Anonymous No.719260545
>>719254848
His face is now just a skull
bravo kojimbo
Anonymous No.719260551
>>719259321
a man covered in bees
Anonymous No.719260663
>>719240635
don't forget the semen
Anonymous No.719260764 >>719260949 >>719261579 >>719261987
>>719239802
I remember some shit in her speech about getting mad at Kennedy for calling off Bay of Pigs and denouncing it. Dumb bitch lmao
Anonymous No.719260949 >>719261372
>>719260764
did the Boss kill Kennedy?
Anonymous No.719261372
>>719260949
damn she really was a hero
Anonymous No.719261579 >>719261987
>>719260764
kek I forgot she talked shit on JFK
>But the US government betrayed them. Our weak-kneed President held
back their air support. Defenseless, the exiles were annihilated by the Cuban
army. All I could do was watch in silence.
Anonymous No.719261987
>>719260764
>>719261579
I heard that was retconned into being just a cover story
Anonymous No.719262489 >>719262605
>>719253854
What is Mgs3 Dealt? Some kind of a card game?
Anonymous No.719262525
>>719251195
Wars are run by elites, but fought by soldiers. Big Boss wanted to take the elites out of the equation and just have soldiers to work as independent mercenaries.
Anonymous No.719262605
>>719262489
>Some kind of a card game?
No that one is ACID
Anonymous No.719262798
>>719259591
1 million immigrants, every year, for the rest of my life
Anonymous No.719263094 >>719263314
>>719239802
Kojimbo is a lot like Fujimoto (or rather the latter is a lot like the former), in that his writing isn't "good" like you understand, but it comes from such a unique mind and it's told in such a way that really captures your attention
Anonymous No.719263314 >>719268310
>>719263094
people just liked fujimoto's characters
Anonymous No.719263613 >>719263950
>>719244117
Wiping out MGS's unique and great supernatural twist with retarded explanations like a virus and/or nanomachines is why I hate and will never stop hating Kojima
Anonymous No.719263693
>>719243195
He really does have autism, huh
Anonymous No.719263731 >>719266814
I never really got Outer Heaven's ideals because who's going to hire independent mercenaries other than the rich and elite?
In Peace Walker they basically get played by a KGB agent for 90% of the game.
And then Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain is entirely about them getting fucked from all sides by three letter agencies. I guess they help some guerilla and resistance groups here and there but there's always some bigger player behind it all. I guess I can see why Outer Heaven failed.
Anonymous No.719263742
How was the virtuous mission supposed to go?


I think Snake was supposed to get away with Sokolov but lost time dealing with Ocelot, who messed up and somehow expected to meet the boss there.
Heck he even let Sokolov go and focused on Snake, so he might have not even had a clue.

-
The Boss just happened to appear with Volgin at the bridge at the same time by accident and improvised by semi-trying to kill snake and take over the Sokolov mission on his place while also taking the Legacy later.

But her not killing Snake definitively right there makes Volgin not believe her and fires the nuke.
Besides if Snake was supposed to die they would have just cut comms with him post bridge.

Or well thats just my take.
Anonymous No.719263804
>>719246957
>Maybe it was XOF that ensured Johnny 'found' those sleep cigarettes.
"I filched them from your equipment"
Anonymous No.719263886
>>719248608
Based, fuck nostalgiacucks
Anonymous No.719263924
>>719249908
Gameplay it was a downgrade it controls much worse.
Anonymous No.719263950
>>719263613
Kojima walking back or avoiding all of the magic and supernatural stuff was really fucking annoying.
Ocelot gaslighting himself into being Liquid the whole time wasn't "really" a retcon but for a series full of literal ghosts and psychics the more enjoyable and coherent explanation was right there.
Anonymous No.719263962
>>719247339
>Not blowing up the helicopter while its in Bolshaya Pass Base
NGMI
Anonymous No.719263993
>>719240630
>>719240630
I like the original plan for him, no idea if it was changed once the 3rd act had to be scrapped or earlier on.
He was supposed to be one of the original founders of the philosophers legacy and was targeting big boss as revenge for stealing it, nice and simple.
Anonymous No.719264003
>>719240462
"It was me Barry!" is some of the worst, lazyest writing in existence.
If you didn't have the talent to properly set up your twists years in advance (something fucking Futurama did) then don't do it.
It offends your audience's intelligence
Anonymous No.719264136 >>719264789
If the Cobra's broke up very shortly after WW2, how do you explain The Fury? His emotion he carries into battle is the result of his trip to space, people weren't going to space until the 60s
Anonymous No.719264163
Ans thank god you are not a writer retard OP-padawan
Anonymous No.719264417 >>719265998 >>719266164 >>719266783
>>719256765
>The Boss quickly disassembles it when she confronts you
>This is straight up impossible because the most notable feature of the Mk22 Mod 0 was that the slide lock is literally bolted to the frame and can't be removed without a wrench
Anonymous No.719264556
>>719257387
He doesn't have to look around, they don't eject. The slide doesn't rack on the Mk22, Snake palms the casing as he manually ejects it between each shot, pay attention to the animation and how he hand goes over the ejection port after every shot.
Anonymous No.719264685
>>719240630
I don't think he could live a good life what with the whole skull face thing, and the parasites inside him too.
Anonymous No.719264776 >>719268631
>>719250635
The reason why they did 3 over every other game is because this whole remake started with trying to salvage the Pachinko MGS3 remake into an actual game, but none of the chinks Konami hired knew how to work with FOX engine, so they redone the whole fucking thing in UE5 since the chinks could understand it, just barely, but just enough to fucking ship it
Anonymous No.719264783
>>719259321
The End did it, shaky ass old man
Anonymous No.719264786
>>719250325
the US was doing the same, unironically.
>whataboutism
yeah, absolutely. both countries interfered with the rest of the world
Anonymous No.719264789 >>719264883 >>719265098
>>719264136
Don't they explain he was a part of some super secret Russian space plan nobody knew about or something.
Anonymous No.719264826
>>719239331
They literally blew the whole area to shit with an airstrike after Snake kills her.
Anonymous No.719264862
>>719239186 (OP)
Video games aren't real
Anonymous No.719264883
>>719264789
A likely story
Anonymous No.719264934
>>719259428
>>719259423
Oh yeah, jumping from a plane on active battlefield while 9 months pregnant.
Anonymous No.719264962
>Snake... you have to kill me
>That's why I'm going to try and kill you
Anonymous No.719265040 >>719265115 >>719265212
>>719257303
>>719256765
Give me a good reason why a revolver with non lethal ammo and a silencer would not be a much better tool for this simply because it doesn't eject casings
Anonymous No.719265098
>>719264789
yeah but they also say the boss was the first person in space in 1960, so it has to be sometime after that.
Anonymous No.719265107 >>719265493
I'm still mad all the cool concepts and ideas from MGS5 were mashed together and shat out in Survive.
All they had to do was add a couple more biomes and make some new missions + add mos support and MGS would have lived on for years without Kojima.
Anonymous No.719265115 >>719265191
>>719265040
What are you going to do when the soldiers wake up
Anonymous No.719265132 >>719266269
>>719257060
>she doesn't look like David Bowie anymore
>none of the characters do either
Shit remake
Anonymous No.719265191 >>719265254
>>719265115
Revolver tricks to distract them
Anonymous No.719265212
>>719265040
making a revolver with a gas seal gives it an absolute garbage trigger pull, this is a simpler and more effective solution than trying design something from scratch or build nagant clones.
Anonymous No.719265254
>>719265191
You're pretty good...
Anonymous No.719265335 >>719265438 >>719265481
>>719246357
holy fucking shit, replayed Resitance 1 recently and was just thinking of this. Despite the dialogue i don't think they ever directly helped hale unless you count the splitter and the hailstorm, but even then you get those because they died and not because they wanted to give it to you.

shame in R2 they're just treated as soldiers and not glowniggers anymore
Anonymous No.719265438
>>719246357
>>719265335
Based game
Anonymous No.719265446
Stalk mode makes the game more shit
Anonymous No.719265481 >>719265747
>>719265335
Resistance as a whole series is a sad waste of a good setting
Even when they half assed and just did a HL2 clone, it was the best game in the series
Shame
Anonymous No.719265493
>>719265107
they just needed to add coop
Anonymous No.719265747
>>719265481
R3 is the worst one for me, still good though. the new york part was kino and finding the dead SRPAs was cool. In addition the part where you're closed in the park and surrounded by 4 goliaths is pure kino, the sounds of the mortars shooting and the whistles as they come down is peak sound design, i want this series to come back so bad but i know it's gonna be shit if they remake it or something. A delta styled remake is probably the way they can't shit on it.
Anonymous No.719265924 >>719266649
ngl from what ive been playing of delta, its pretty good
Anonymous No.719265931
>>719239514
She's the one that nuked GG before the fight, her body would be fine.
Anonymous No.719265998 >>719266105 >>719266364 >>719266431
>>719264417
she disassembles your M1911A1, not the Mk22
Anonymous No.719266105 >>719266164 >>719266364
>>719265998
she messes up your new lethal gun not the mk22
Anonymous No.719266164 >>719266431
>>719264417
>>719266105
Anonymous No.719266269
>>719265132
Not every character needs to look like David Bowie
Anonymous No.719266364 >>719267282 >>719267410
>>719265998
>>719266105
You don't have a 1911 during Virtuous Mission, Snake is using the Mk22 during the bridge scene, you can even see the bolt attached to the slide lock as it falls
Anonymous No.719266431
>>719265998
>>719266164
Have you niggers even played the game? You don't have the M1911 during virtuous mission
Anonymous No.719266649
>>719265924
From what I saw on tube it's not good nor is it bad, it's just the same.
Anonymous No.719266741
>>719244117
Ah yes, midichlorians.
Anonymous No.719266783
>>719264417
snake didn't torque it to spec
Anonymous No.719266814
>>719263731
The idea is that you could do soldiering without all the retarded shit on top like your government owning your body and soul. Them going around on patrol in formation, doing drills and saluting some war hero is literally just army LARP.

Only difference is that they trusted Big Boss not to fuck them over (LOL) and trusted both him and Kazuhira not to mismanage them or make them do heinous shit.

And really it was a very good place to lead soldier life, as you were often surrounded and trained by peers from top merc units, top special forces, and your commanders were highly skilled so nobody fucked around. Your inhouse RnD gave you equipment that far outmatched anything the governments would give you, you had top notch medical, and despite all that there were actually hot women all over.

If you mean Big Boss's ideals? He just wanted to keep fighting since soldiering was all he knew in life. Without Kaz he was ready to be a battlefield hobo. With Kaz he was on board with just running a cool unit doing tough soldiering, that's why it was mostly Kaz setting up the actual missions and dealing with clients.

Post-Diamond Dogs BB went full retard since he realized that people want him dead over nonsense and will try to destroy him and anything he creates out of spite, so he takes the fight to his main enemy, using whatever skills he has to do it. Thus Outer Heaven itself is less his 'pure' ideal, but more of a convenience thing, same with Foxhound.

Ground Zeroes MSF would be the purest representation of his ideals post-Kaz, and Portable Ops is what he'd be doing without Kaz's acumen. Diamond Dogs is closest to off-screen Outer Heaven, since the entire thing is majorly out of convenience on the way to find and take revenge on Skull Face, but Big Medic's more mellow personality greatly distracts from that with various nonsense like save the kids or save the animals.
Anonymous No.719266868 >>719267075 >>719267890
Why did he let his mom get killed in cold blood, is he a sociopath?
Anonymous No.719267075
>>719266868
He's an american living in russia, of course he is
Anonymous No.719267282
>>719266364
She isbjust that good
Anonymous No.719267410
>>719266364
as expect from the woman that changed the tide of WWII while also pregnant
Anonymous No.719267643 >>719267859 >>719267948 >>719268031 >>719268405
In the "You dont have what it takws to kill me" scene, was Ocelot/Adam meant to just not supposed to kill Snake? why he try to shoot him with the revolver
Anonymous No.719267662
>>719259659
>(((charity)))
Anon, I...
Anonymous No.719267859 >>719267948 >>719267981 >>719268405
>>719267643
The Makarov pistol he trained on has less bullets than the revolver he got in that scene and Ocelot straight up forgot.
Anonymous No.719267890
>>719266868
He didn't know she's his mom at the time.
Anonymous No.719267948 >>719268405
>>719267859
>>719267643
Other way around, the revolver has less bullets than Makarov, so when Ocelot fired too many times, he ran out without knowing.
Anonymous No.719267981 >>719268030 >>719268405
>>719267859
So he just pretended to be willing to kill snake?
Anonymous No.719268030 >>719268087 >>719268405 >>719268579
>>719267981
No, he was really doing it he just sucked at it.
Anonymous No.719268031
>>719267643
He pretended to not know the revolver has ome less bullet and let Eva/Snake beat him up to keep his cover
Anonymous No.719268087
>>719268030
His mission was to not kill Snake but assist him he was w the CIA
Anonymous No.719268176 >>719268529
>>719260018
She realized any actions she took was feeding into the cycle of violence that caused her need for action in the first place. So she did the only thing she knew how - stay loyal to America and her vision. Thatโ€™s how she triple crosses the soviets: first betrays america to join russia then gives nukes to Volgin. She steals the philosophers legacy from volgin and gives it to Eva. That was a fake because she knew it Eva was chinese and gives it to her son. Her son was a fake russian double agent working with the US sent to work with Naked Snake. Ocelot then secures the philosophers legacy for Naked Snake so he can build Outer Heaven
Anonymous No.719268310
>>719263314
It's more than that.
It's a real interest to see what happens next, to see what the fuck this maniac had cooked up.
It's some mainstream, high-end version of outsider art.
Anonymous No.719268353 >>719268521 >>719268579 >>719268710 >>719268756 >>719268815
>Big boss is canonically supposed to be the best solider in the world
>MGS3
>Always getting caught, getting jumped on, literally his eye because of it, and basically just getting his shit handed to him
Anonymous No.719268405
>>719267643
>>719267859
>>719267948
>>719267981
>>719268030
What were they canonically doing during Snake vs Ocelot fight between the swamp and cave? They were missing each other on purpose just to pass time and feel the thrill until The Pain arrived?

What would the fight between Ocelot and Snake been like in Shagohod hangar? They just pass time until it's too late and the hangar explodes?
Anonymous No.719268521
>>719268353
Everyone just loses to Snake on purpose in mgs3 except maybe Volgin. Then after that the legend has already grown so big that everyone just went with it.
Anonymous No.719268529 >>719268702
>>719268176
She decided to do nothing to achieve her dull empty dream and continue to do all the evil dirt that her country does that she hates, great character, great philosophy.
Anonymous No.719268579 >>719268756
>>719268030
>>719268353
in context he was just being used around in mgs3

he becomes the true big boss in pw
Anonymous No.719268631
>>719264776
It's a shame what happened to FOX Engine. You'd think with how much resources went into creating it Konami would use it more, or at least license it out.
Anonymous No.719268702
>>719268529
Sheโ€™s the best in the world and she could nothing to stop the system anon, all she knows how to do is fight. If she quit, they wouldโ€™ve hunted her like a dog so she would have had to fight anyways. Thatโ€™s why she asks what Snake is loyal to, because in the end, thatโ€™s all you can really do
Anonymous No.719268710
>>719268353
>loses to a guy with spray paint and a lighter
Anonymous No.719268756
>>719268353
>>719268579
So BB's super power is he's autistic and also able to take a lot of shit to extreme amounts. Tho he could have probably not handled losing both of his eyes. But basically everything else.
Anonymous No.719268815
>>719268353
Him being the best ever soldier is just The Patriot's propaganda, fucking Venom Snake and some Diamond Dog/MSF soldiers are just as good if not slightly better than him.