Thread 719258450

How do DMC bros feel about the latest Itsuno interview?

>>719258450 (OP)
I...
I have no idea how the retard managed to make a good game.
Thats the stupidest comment he could have made, im glad dmc5 already exists because if I heard that beforehand id have had no faith at all

Replaying content with different powers is kino though

>>719258450 (OP)
>guy who works on games doesn't shit on the games he worked on
pr speak

>>719258828
I have no idea why your mother didn't have an abortion

>>719258880
Yeah but only when it's a full game

>managed to better it with dmc5
kek no, dmc4 is still better than 5 despite being barely a full game

>>719258450 (OP)
DMC4 is obviously a very good game when you look aside the content reuse.
It's a highly polished game that runs excellently and features incredible combat and meaningfully expands the franchise and makes it bigger.
I'm not surprised that Itsuno as a game creative would feel like doing better than 4 would be impossible.

>>719258880
Yeah, it's fun when you do it in 3 and 5 with Vergil since you actually get to play a full game.

>>719259925
>5
>full game
lmao

>>719259850
Yeah I think he specifically meant with how it plays. He could always do DMC4 again with more levels and enemies.

This is literally just sugarcoated PR corpospeak which Itsuno does a lot. We know exactly what happened with DMC4's development and why they didn't make DMC5 immediately after from other interviews.

The team was totally burnt out after DMC3 and had zero ideas for a sequel. DMC4 was forced on Itsuno by Capcom and it took a long time to come up with ideas for the game (hence why Nero is totally absent in the first two CGI trailers for the game, they literally had nothing when it was announced). They also struggled with the new MT framework engine and the rising workload of HD game development. The reason he didn't immediately go on to make DMC5 isn't because he thought DMC4 was "perfect", he was literally just sick of it and wanted to make something else, that being Dragon's Dogma. With DMC5 he had several years to come up with new ideas and that's why he was much more passionate about it

>>719258828
>I have no idea how the retard managed to make a good game
DMC3, DMC4, DMCV, DD1 and DD2. They're all good games. Itsuno never made a bad game. You might dislike some aspects of it, but they're all good. And considering how fucking cursed by Capcom he was, its a miracle he managed to make them.

>>719259850
>DMC4 is obviously a very good game
lol

>>719258450 (OP)
Itsuno just says random shit in interviews, I don't know why. I think he literally just drops his spaghetti and just says words. Every interview he has ever done is weird as fuck.

>>719258450 (OP)
I really wonder is Itsuno a hack that just gets lucky with some (looking at you DD2) of his games or is he just a massive corpo piece of shit that lies whenever possible?

>>719258828
nip studios always succeed in spite of themselves because their culture is retarded and the pathetic beta roaches are too cowardly to say no to retarded bullshit by their higherups

>>719260494
Yeah I agree, but listening to him talk about it, it sounds like he has zero idea why any of us even liked his games.
Same for comments about Dragons dogma.

Genuinely I have no idea how he managed to make good games because he doesnt seem to know how he did it himself

>>719260540
>Itsuno just says random shit in interviews, I don't know why. I think he literally just drops his spaghetti and just says words. Every interview he has ever done is weird as fuck.

Probably just trying to be nice and proffessional to not piss anyone off. He wants to speak candidly about stuff but is afraid he'll get in trouble so it comes out weird, he's not like Kamiya or Itagaki who clearly doesn't give a fuck and just says what they think

>>719260761
I think he's just really bad at putting things into words and would rather be just making games instead of doing PR shit. Japs have this retarded shit were they can't talk shit in public about being screwed by the company they've worked. Same reason we'll never fucking know what happened to Phantom Pain, since Kojima won't talk about that shit and neither will anyone at Konami.

>>719258450 (OP)
>the same enemy placement and everything
Jesus, can the retarded parroting posers stop pretending to ever have played those games? Dante, even on default difficulty has different enemy placement and different enemy variety. They even introduce new enemies when you play as him.
And I'm not defending DMC4, it has its shortcomings but I fucking hate those faggots going melodramatic and making up shit on the fly.

>>719260887
>Probably just trying to be nice and proffessional to not piss anyone off.
why are all asians such fucking cucks

>>719261078
>Japs have this retarded shit were they can't talk shit in public about being screwed by the company they've worked.
That's not really exclusive to japan. Talking shit about a previous employer is generally something that makes you look bad. It paints you as untrustworthy and unreliable. If you talk shit about your previous job you're probably gonna talk shit about your current one as well

>>719258880
Yeah, I never had a problem with the backtracking in 4. I have played entire games that were boring slogs, artificially inflated by bloated HP count or obtuse mechanics, and those games were sold as full price games yet didnt even measure up to even the Nero half of DMC4 (at least for me, maybe I'm biased, i do like the DMC series). The first time I played the game it felt like I had already accessed some new type of new game plus when they let you play the game in reverse. Felt like a nod to SotN. I would take one more DMC4 quality game over a hundred Sony jabrony cinematic experiences with stories that drag on forever anyway.

>>719258450 (OP)
Shitsuno the Potential Man is a fraud, in his latest interview he said he made all the improvements he could and wanted with DMC5, which is one of the worst DMC games ever made.

I am so glad Kamiya is working with Capcom again, after Okami 2, Kamiya will make a new DMC game and save DMC, be it a DMC1 Remake or a DMC6.

>>719262192
>DMC5
>one of the worst DMC games ever made
I dont believe you have ever played a DMC game based on that statement.

>>719262368
Movement, attack animations and arial time are all worse than DMC4. DMC5 campaign has even less Dante, now that there are two dogshit characters (Nero and V) instead of just one dogshit character (Nero).

Every single game Shitsuno the Potential Man has mad is either bad or dogshit, with the exception of DMC3, which now is evident that the quality of that game was because of the team behind it, not just Shitsuno the Potential Man.

>>719262556
>arial
>has mad
Ew, I was talking to an ESL or a retard. Either way, begone foul creature!

Why do zoomies NIGGER like to shit on popular stuff that they weren't around to enjoy? Is it because KIKE they have nothing they truly HOOKNOSE JEW enjoy? Its very CUNNY WOMB BUSTING sad, their identity is spiting that which they STREET SHITTING PAJEET have no experience with.

>>719262043
If your company shits on you, you can shit back. Gays Gone dev was mad with the way Sony handed the game and didn't held back. That's the one reason we know what happened between then. Japs can't do that.
>>719262556
I don't think you played a DMC game, let alone DMCV. Your hate for Itsuno just follows that discord tranny brand that pops up on every thread.

>Inafune
>Kamiya
>Itsuno
>that MH nepo who said wilds sold well because of story
what is with all these disgraced devs coming from capcom?

>>719262192
Kamiya should retire after okami 2 but he probably wont. Hes gonna work until he dies.

>>719260318
This.

I get what Itsuno probably means in that the FORMULA of DMC4's gameplay was the best it could be (given that Dante's playstyle doesn't change in 5 and Nero's is mostly the same but with different functions for the circle button, and that the actually new design, V, is weak next to them), but he's more than aware that 4 is half a game repeating on itself.

I think most DMC fans would be happy with more like 5 but with tweaks. If we got another game where Dante has multiple weapons and styles he can switch on the fly, and Nero got new functions for whatever he has instead of Breakers, I'd be mostly happy. I personally want better enemies and more environmental interaction, and I think Vergil needs a rehaul if they put him in a base character as they should, but how the characters themselves play is damn good and only subject to tweaks at this point.

If I had to guess, Itsuno is more impressed by new technology than anything else, so he thought it'd be pretty hard to outdo himself in DMC5 because 4 was ridiculously good looking and performing for how early it was into the 7th gen lifecycle. Despite having my reservations with the art style I can't deny DMC5 is one sick ass looking game in motion.

Itsuno leaving Capcom because he didn't want to keep making DD and DMC sequels like the company wants him was the most retarded decision he could've made.
We have consistently spoken with our wallets that we don't care about unknown and new IPs regardless if they're good games or not. Kunitsu-Gami failed. Exoprimal failed. Onimusha 5 will fail. The Okami sequel will fail. Pragmata will fail. If God Hand was made today it would still fail.

>>719264303
Capcom like many other companies in current year have gone past critical mass and are in the meltdown stage. Anything and everything that has or acquires an HR department will meet the same fate. Talent will have their hands tied behind their backs. The company will be shackled with unnecessary vanity hires (yes, even the supposedly based Japanese ones if they do too much business with the West), and they will have all sorts of weird expectations imposed upon them, but LEAST OF ALL delivering a product that will please the customer. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a study done specifically with video games that determined that if a game was designed to be "too satisfying, for too long" than it would deter the customer from purchasing new product. So it needed to be only satisfying enough, but still kind of agitating, and irritating in some ways. Enough to make you ready to drop it in favor of the next new toy.

>>719258450 (OP)
DMC4 isn't even better than DMC3

>>719262192
Kamiya has never made a game as good as DMC3 or 5.

>>719258450 (OP)
He made exactly 1 decent game which is DMC3 and even that one is just held up by its jokey edgyness

>>719264919
>retard believes he left after DMC5 had extremely poor full price sales and DD2 completely flopped

>>719264741
I'm impressed that we even got a new DMC, since i thought it was dead untl that. All of those Squidward posting at every E3 until the announcement day. If we ever get a new one, i hope it's some retarded shit with Vergil and Dante in hell. Maybe they can give Vergil new weapons and styles. Dante is pretty much perfected at this point.
>>719264976
To be fair, DMC3 is a very, very hard game to top. And DMC3 was a massive upgrade compared to DMC2 so i'm glad the ball wasn't dropped on DMC4 and DMCV.

>>719258450 (OP)
>Itsuno interview
I feel most of these hacks. Itsuno, Kojima, Nomura, etc. Would be nobodies without the people behind them, the ACTUAL geniuses.

We all know the eternal retardation that befell Kojima as soon as he parted with his talented scriptwriter. It's the same shit.

>>719263408
>Why
Because they are a) Zoomers and b) Niggers, hence they hate everything that reminds them of how much they SUCK.

>>719264516
>>719265116
PLEASE, PLEASE... PLEASE!!! Take good care of yourselves and stay alive, I am going to enjoy laughing at you Shitsuno the Potential Man proponents when Kamiya makes the best DMC game after he is done with Okami 2.

>>719265395
>All of those Squidward posting at every E3 until the announcement day.
I nearly shit myself when it actually happened. ANd I tried to be down on it because Crapcom...but then when Dante came into frame at the end on a demonic bike I couldn't lie to myself.
https://youtu.be/RYSXMTm_e5s

And people on /v/ in the current year can complain about the game all we want, but the hype train was genuinely amazing and got to a degree that Itsuno did the silly meme dance at a pizza party with the fans. It was wholesome. And the final game itself was great, even though the flaws get more glaring with time.


Personally I think Vergil needs an overhaul that, in short, adds in some of his V abilities (so you can use Doppelganger and other familiars as summons) and a new Dual Wield mechanic (a la how he uses Force Edge in 3, where you use your other two weapons in an extra dual wield moveset). I think he's always broken with just a little bit of skill each time he appears where he can do insane damage, and his more recent Super attacks are just "I win" buttons that are too easy to press. I'd like a more balanced Vergil.

>>719265603
>when Kamiya makes the best DMC game after he is done with Okami 2
Are you really going to hold onto this hate for the next 6+ years? If he even makes one. That isn't healthy, anon.

>>719264919
>>719264919
And watch, Itsuno leaving Capcom to go make a game that is "NOT A SEQUEL TO DMC" will be something akin to Mighty No 9 "Not being a sequel to Mega Man". That would be the quickest way he could make me, a long time fan of him, finally write him off forever.

>>719265862
What hate? I am laughing and experiencing joy that this fraud was exposed. Kamiya-san will reclaim his throne and rightful IP and legacy.

I REALLY like DMC4 even if it's unfinished

>>719262192
nice reddit meme fag

>>719258450 (OP)
Filled with corpo speak like everything a jap corpo says because they cant say anything
The only director ive seen so far who speaks his mind is Nagochi and he got shafted for calling Nintendo owners losers
>Kamiya
He never talks shit about anyone in the industry, he just acts like a dick in social media, even the supposed "dont give a fuck" dudes are polite when it comes to connections

>>719262192
This post reeks of jeet

>>719265823
I remember i was working during the event. I had zero faith that it would be announced. Then i came home, and came straight to /v/ to see the shitshow only to click on the catalog and watch it filled with DMCV threads. I couldn't believe my eyes. The hype was off this world. Same for DD2 announcement. /v/ was nothing but DD2 threads. I wanted a game to be Vergil focused once. Something like his younger days. I think it could work.
>>719266180
As do all people with good taste
>>719266663
> he got shafted for calling Nintendo owners losers
Based
>>719266734
It's discord trannies. They plague anything Itsuno related or any popular thing on /v/. You'll get used to it.

>>719265980
Sure you are little man, sure you are

>>719266663
>He never talks shit about anyone in the industry

Kamiya called Microsoft motherfuckers on twitter during Scalebound's development (in japanese so they probably thought they wouldnt read it.)
He threw shade at Inafune and Mighty Number 9, calling the game an embarrassing copy
He had a straight up feud with Itagaki back in the day, calling him an "idiot" and admitting that while he is bald, he is NOT gay.

I'll be the first to hate on DMC4 because it's a heavily flawed game, but it's still a fact that it was state-of-the-art in terms of graphics and gameplay when it came out.

Nero was a giant jump forwards in terms of gameplay and weapons like Lucifer and Pandora were extremely ambitious even if their execution wasn't perfect. There's a reason people latched onto that game for a whole decade and kept asking for DMC5 and loudly rejected when DmC didn't try to iterate on DMC4, even when it was clearly taking notes from it. Outside of Bayonetta 1 there wasn't anything on DMC4's levels for years, and if you see a deep action game after it the chances are they are directly influenced by DMC4. Ultrakill is probably the biggest example of this.

>>719264919
Itsuno's Game will SUCCEED.
Onimusha will SUCCEED.
Ninja Gaiden 4 will SUCCEED.
Kunitsu-Gami will RECOUP.
Pragmata will SUCCEED (and Diana will be pregnant during the prolog).

NO MORE Souls-likes.

>>719258450 (OP)
>worst boss ever
Not even remotely fucking close. While reusing half the stages for an already short game was disappointing, it's still a great game despite this major issue. That being said, DMC4 was also a lot of unfulfilled potential and it's very easy to see what needed to be fixed, so the comment on not knowing how you could make it better is stupid.

>>719258450 (OP)
DMC4 may actually be my favorite Devil May Cry game. I like playing Nero, I love the story beats, Credo is still my favorite boss fight. It was a defining piece of media at that point in my life. It was just special to me. Itsuno is still a fucking retard for making a comment like that. 1 is a Timeless masterpiece and 3 is the overall best package. He didn't even beat those two games as a cohesive experience. Even 2 was a more fleshed out experience than 4, despite that game having enough flaws of its own. DMC is still my favorite franchise, but holy fuck I can not respect Itsuno anymore after DD2 and bullshit he has said as of late.

>>719268575
>Even 2 was a more fleshed out experience than 4
You're fucking insane. DMC2 doesn't even have a story for 99% of its runtime.

>>719259669
Yeah Idk how many layers of japanese corpo speak was he hiding under but he tried to purity check his own fan base.