Thread 719655512

You may not like it but Delta is the best metal gear game ever

>mgsv style gameplay
>modern graphics
>improved facial animations
>legacy style
>different filters
>the best kojima story
>best snake

Konami won

>>719655512 (OP)
i wonder if they'll remake 1 next

>>719655550
They should do pw and change it up so they can make mgs1 capcom style

>>719655512 (OP)
The controls are worse than the original

Whatever you say. Imagine simping for a mullti-million corporation.

>>719656286
No they arent

do you guys just play slop all day and brag about it??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? first it was ue5 shit like e33 then it was gameguard kernel anticheat malware helldivers 2.

Trvke

>>719655550
It will probably be a remake of The Twin Snakes. Just because the subtitle sounds better.

However, I never played The Twin Snakes so I don't know if the cutscenes and voice acting were actually better than 1.

>>719658725
Cutscenes were more hollywood action movie style(backflipping over a missile, over the top reactions to stuff like forgetting a codec number) voice acting was worse(every character losing their accent)

>>719655717
METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: Portable Ops
METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: Peace Walker
METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: The Twin Snakes
METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: Mobile
METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: Sons of Liberty

>>719655512 (OP)
>>modern graphics
cheap shitty modern graphics
>>improved facial animations
(you)

>>719656852
do you just write random words? WTF did you just say dude?

>>719655512 (OP)
the only reason i clicked is that i want to fuck the man in your image

>>719658725
>I don't know if the cutscenes and voice acting were actually better than 1
Easily worse, much prefer if they put more effort into that one and base it off the PS1 version

>>719655512 (OP)
>censored as fuck
>modified for "modern audiences"
No thank you. Just play the originals.

>>719656762
They 100% are

>>719655550
1 from MSX? I hope

>>719655512 (OP)
just say the original was too hard for you lil bro

>>719659243
>censored as fuck
Disingenuous overexaggerating faggot

>>719659114
>Portable Ops
Maybe it'll actually have a story this time, you know, the one about snake splitting away and founding foxhound? not the one where he fights gray fox, mr. freeze, liquid snake and a nigga in a flying chair
>Mobile
just make it an extra snake tale, it'd fit right in before/after External Gazer
>The Twin Snakes
kill yourself

>>719659161
Honestly, though, you have played the game for a long time. Don't you have anything else to do with your time?

>>719655512 (OP)
How delta looks in 2025 is how MGS3 first looked to us back in 2004. No other ps2 game out there showcased a jungle environment the way this game did

>>719655512 (OP)
Konami lost retard
https://gamerant.com/mgs-delta-snake-eater-play-count-sales-estimate-launch-week/

>>719656762
>no analog face buttons and triggers

>>719655512 (OP)
It's just MGS3, a game I already knew was the best. They would have to try really hard to fuck it up

>>719659496
Do you have a better secondary title?

>>719660352
Metal Gear: Solid already has a subtitle

>UE5 slop
Shan't be playing.

>>719655512 (OP)
Why did they call it Delta anyway?

>>719659061
>>719659213
Fuck. Alright so what should it be called?
METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: Integral?

In the original, Volgin lists Australia as one of the countries where the Philosopher's Legacy was being hidden, along with banks in Hong Kong and Switzerland. But for whatever reason, the remake changed this to Austria and it's incredibly noticeably just the word "Australia" cut down to sound like "Austria".
I genuinely have no fucking idea why they changed it. Even if it was just Neil Ross screwing up the line through a misread, it's not like it was an important plot point that ever mattered.

>>719660410
>Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
>Metal Gear: Solid
Not a very fitting choice, anon.

>>719660876
translation error maybe?

>>719660663
In reference to Virtue's last reward's Delta of course, another old man in a "game" with about as much gameplay.

>>719655550
Acid 3

>>719659620
S-shut up! You're not my real colonel!

>>719655512 (OP)
>MGSV style gameplay on MGS3 level design
It's Twin Snakes all over.

I doubt they talked about the brought back the cast to do new lines, where is that beyond the Snake Vs Bomberman stuff with Otacon and Mai Ling?

>>719655512 (OP)
Has anyone else noticed the detection seems fucked up in Delta? Sometimes it feels like I’m being seen through walls, especially by the sniper ocelot member in the Rassvet facility. Once I emerged from the water by a boat and was instantly seen, even though it should have been impossible to see me over the boat.

>>719659771
literally outdated technology

>>719661331
It's not as bad, enemy AI got updated, tranq range and duration got nerfed and snake is slow as shit with all new mocapped animations.

>>719655512 (OP)
I couldn't stand all the fucking kojinigger cutscenes in the original and I can't stand them here either.

>>719661331
>It's Twin Snakes all over.
No one cared that Twin Snakes was a mgs1 mod for mgs2, the problem was the over-the-top (even for MGS) cutscenes

>>719655512 (OP)
WOW Kojima was already in the BBC worship all the way back then huh?
Even got Snake be the cuck watching in the background the whole time.

>>719662190
hope there'll be blaxploitation in peace walker remake
he's the boss, boss nigger!

>>719662130
I knew I wasn't crazy. I don't remember the tranq feeling this difficult to use in the original. I guess it was kinda op before.

>>719655550
>>719655717
Agreed, I want them to do Peace Walker Remake more than MGS1 plus it already had a Remake.
Peace Walker in terms of storytelling is excellent but man the gameplay does not age well and its obviously originally a handheld game. Playing it again on a modern console or PC would be rough.
Hell i did it with the PSP emulator on PC back then it was very rough, i would not like to go to that experience again.

>>719655512 (OP)
The game looks so damn good at times

>>719662282
>Snake has a perm instead of a mullet
>Each boss battle is now a dance showdown

>>719662410
But first, they need to remake Portable Ops

Would peacewalker be harder to remake then 3? I never played it because I didn't have a PSP, mainly know Hayter's voice was especially gravelly at that point and it had some kind of co-op.

>>719655512 (OP)
>60 fps
Let me unlock my framerate and I'll consider it.

There's no way they remake PW or PO in the near future. They are doing whatever they can relatively easy for their biggest hits. If they do another, it will be 2 next because it's another game they can just throw the unreal engine wrapper around. Doing mgs1 will be another world of effort that Im not sure they will commit to.

>the best kojima story
>best snake

>>719655512 (OP)
Worse than the original

How does MGS3 emulate nowadays? Did they finally make a workaround for the analog buttons in PCSX2?

>>719662786
I have it for the PS3. The cutscenes are a fucking comic book so for a remake, they would have to animate them from the ground up. Other than that, I don't think it would be very hard to remake.

>>719662871
>Doing mgs1 will be another world of effort that Im not sure they will commit to.
If that's the case then they'll just remake The Twin Snakes. I doubt they'll remake 2 before 1.

>>719663640
>I doubt they'll remake 2 before 1.
If delta is anything to go by, they'll do 2 because they can shove the remaster into ue5 and fill it with new assets. with 4, PW or 1 they'll have to put way more effort.

>>719663067
Yeah, you use another button to modify the pressure input

>>719662865
You can with .ini niggery. Doesn't matter because if you've got unstable FPS sound in cutscenes will stutter to fuck and back.

>>719655512 (OP)
>"fuck you gamers!"
>*goes all in pachinkos and turning all their beloved franchises into a slot machine*
>covid comes in, Jewnami starts losing profits because of their retarded decisions
>h-hey we're still your pals you rike silent hill 2? you rike metal gear? here you go soulless sloppy remakes (we're only doing the most popular games in their respected franchises though lol)
Fuck you, fuck jewnami and fuck all bootlicking normalfaggot that consume this piece of dogshit

>>719655512 (OP)
>mgsv style gameplay
but that's garbage

Just give me full on remakes of the original MSX Metal Gears. I want to play more games as Solid...

>>719655550
Twin snakes already exists, it was kojima approved btw

>>719664016
how's the kool-aid?

>>719664042
>MG1 remake
>You finally get to see Solid fight Venom
I'd be hype

>>719664023
It's actually giga based in classic MGS Lego levels, somehow.

Playing Delta just made me remember how much I'd rather for all of these games to happen inside closed buildings and military compounds instead of the jungle

This is why Chaos Theory is still the best stealth game

>Delta was said to be "a project to train new blood on UE5"
they're absolutely making more MGS Remakes.

>>719663849
>they can shove the remaster into ue5 and fill it with new assets
They can do the exact same thing with The Twin Snakes.

>>719664219
He'll die of old age by the time you reach the MB platform

>>719664547
they probably don't have the source code and they definitely don't have miyamoto's permission.

>>719662591
Kekkin

Will we ever get a truly groundbreaking vidya like MGS1, MGS2, MGS3 and MGS4 ever again? Even MGSV felt insanely realistic IN 2014. I just want to be shocked at a video game and feel like im experiencing the future again.

>>719664845
You can stop being a jaded old faggot or realize video games were always dogshit and kept getting worse

>>719664638
Master Collection was released for Switch. Now it's time for Miyamoto to honor his part of the deal.

>>719664954
>calling someone jaded
ironic

>>719664845
>Even MGSV felt insanely realistic IN 2014. I just want to be shocked at a video game and feel like im experiencing the future again.
Play Red Dead 2.
The gameplay isn't going to impress, but the world will

They should cut all the anime/vocaloid shit from PW and make it all grimdark serious like V

>>719665598
>that minecraft grass
lol

>>719655512 (OP)
Here, you dropped this:
>dogshit performance

>>719656762
>retarded and permanent random input lag for walking, running and climbing
>jankiest crawling back against a wall animation
>unreliable 3rd person aiming
Nah, not even close. Even playing an OG on PCSX2 with Its input lag feels snappier than this.

>>719655550
The Konami guys supervising the development of MGS Delta have said that they want to, but it would require a complete redesign of the whole game, because simply porting modern gameplay into it would make the game too damn easy and too short.

>>719665612
The robot bosses were so retarded and soulless but it was cool to see Big Boss take out multiple kaiju level robots like Shadow of the Colossus

>>719665718
looks pretty good

>>719665598
>>719666074
I'm getting over 120 fps on ultra in native 2k in this, while Delta shitting itself sometimes and drops to 40 on my 9070XT with FSR. What the fuck?

>>719665936
Same thing already happened with twin snakes

So I was reading the timeline and don't you think there is enough material to make a game between MGS3 and MG1?

>>719666378
That's just Peace Walker

>>719665936
>MGS2 is basically confirmed for the next remake then
BASED BASED BASED

>>719664016
Didn't they announce a Silent Hill 1 remake a while back as well?

>>719666296
Literally quality over quantity

>>719666378
there's room for at least 3 more games

>>719666378
That's what Peace Walker and Phantom Pain did though.

>>719666549
Delta literally has a PS2 level structure, and these level are empty by modern standards. It's a PS2 game with a modern graphic, It should work like a charm, not like crap.

>>719665936
>too damn easy and too short.
Then it will sell like hot cakes. You have to remember that the "modern" audience consists of brain-dead zoomers who can't even tie their shoes.

>>719666483
yeah

>>719666453
>>719666572
Peace Walker is already like 10 years after MGS3
I'm thinking about the Les Enfants Terribles, how the Patriots got together, why Eva decided to give birth without Big Dick etc.

>>719666849
Even my Arthur from my 2019 mid PC looks better than Delta's Ocelot

>>719666994
Portable Ops is before Peace Walker and is sorta canon, all that other stuff is explained in MGS4.

>>719666849
It really exemplifies just how shit UE5, compared with stuff like RE4R that also looks quite "modern" yet can run on mid tier hardware near flawlessly

>>719666378
>Portable Ops
>Peace Walker
>Ground Zeroes
>The Phantom Pain
>Metal Gear 1
>Metal Gear 2
And you still want MORE games set between MGS3 and MG1?

>>719666378
The Missing Link trilogy (aka shit that doesn't matter at all)

>>719666378
They made 3 games out of that already.

I think it was weird they never really did anything with Paramedic. She's this goofy kino obsessed girl in 3, then off screen she becomes a bitch doing unethical experiments until Grey Fox gutted her for using him as a lab rat.

>>719667151
>stuff like RE4R that also looks quite "modern"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83BhJAZrXrc&t=3s

>>719667801
They didn't do much with any of the MGS3 cast after revealing they were the Patriots. You'd expect a lot more explaining how the fuck that happened but no.

How did they go from Sahelanthropus to this

>>719668164
Sahelanthropus only worked when powered by a little psychic boy. Those are in short supplied so Big Boss probably figured it was time to simplify things a bit.

>>719667801
She was a top tier waifu. I'm glad we get to put that retarded cyborg down once and for all.

>>719668164
It was made by a czech

>>719668371
Sahelanthropus could be operated by a regular child as well. And it was meant to be a AI pod controlling it as well, they just rushed the development.

>>719668164
Sahelanthropus was an absurd design that required a psychic child just to be able to move itself, this is a much more practical and easily manufactured design for its intended purpose of being a mobile nuclear weapons platform.

>>719668621
heh, ironic

>>719668164
How come this thing was so small compared to Zeke?

>>719655512 (OP)
>best metal gear game ever
that's a very low bar

>>719665936
I say they should combine multiple games into one. MG1, MG2, MGS.

>>719666994
That's not a game. That's a short story.

>>719668164
How did we go from the AI weapons in Peace Walker, to Sahelanthropus and then to this.

>>719668164
It's a small, bipedal nuclear weapons platform. It does what it's supposed to do.

>>719668621
It needed magic psychic powers move though. He never got the thing working normally did he

>>719669298
big boss spent all philosopher money on underage prostitutes

>>719668875
Zeke was a prototype thrown together from the scrapped AI weapons. The TX was meant to be smaller then Zeke and be able to carry two nukes compared to Zeke's one while being more compact and presumably better.

>>719669604
The TX-55 didn't have much defensive capabilities. It was designed almost exclusively to fire nukes and that's it, making it relatively vulnerable compared to other Metal Gears. Its successor was modified to be able to better defend itself while still maintaining all of the 55's core functionalities, but it wasn't enough. This is likely why REX was designed the way it was. Out of all the Metal Gears, it's the only one a Snake wasn't able to destroy. Even after firing a ton of missiles at it, getting its radome busted by Gray Fox and left to rot in the ruins of Shadow Moses for like ten years, it still beat the shit out of RAY.

>>719669298
The advanced AI tech of that time died with Strangelove and Sahelanthropus was a proof of concept that didn't even work, as the tech needed wouldn't exist until the times of MGS2

>>719655512 (OP)
>>mgsv style gameplay
disgusting
>>modern graphics
disgusting
>>improved facial animations
not really important and even then its debetable
>best snake
kys

>>719655512 (OP)
Based

>>719662410
>Peace Walker in terms of storytelling
how the fuck can anyone with a brain say this? It's literally the worst one , uncluding mgs4. It shits on everything that was build up previously, retcons the universe. introduces anarchronisms and cheapens everything that happenss in mgs3 including the boss as a character. It has retarded meaningless characters and HOT COLDMAN

Amazing

>>719669604
Not to mention it wasn't designed by Huey Emmerich, but by Drago Petrovich Madnar, so the entire philosophy of its design is completely different.

>>719669751
Ray was only real a metal gear because it was a bipedal tank right? I don't think they had nukes on them.

>>719668164
because kojima is a hack who didn't give a shit about mgs since 2008

>>719669917
What the fuck? How is it debatable that delta has better facial animations? Thats a fact not even open to opinion

>>719667110
Thats because arthur has a basic design of “handsome guy”. Snake looks better then arthur tho

>>719670159
Yeah, Ray was more of a proto Gekko instead of a true Metal Gear

>>719670360
>dude realism
It's uncanny. Everyone looks weird and like they dont fit in the world. Faces especially. Foto realism is a cancer

>>719670360
>>719670548
not to mention non expresive eyes. Eyes looked much better in the original and conveyed so much personality that is simply non existent in the remake

>>719655550
kys

>>719670548
>Foto

>>719670159
Ray was just mass produced mechs which is why Rex beat it's ass.

>>719670159
The original definition of a Metal Gear proposed by Granin was a "tank with legs". This concept was rejected by the Soviets due to being silly and pointless. However, Huey adopted the idea and it was accepted by Big Boss and Millar because they saw its uses. To a conventional military, a tank with legs is pointless, but to a small operation like MSF, the versatility of such a weapon had its perks. It was when Big Boss made the decision to outfit it with a nuke that the proper definition of a "Metal Gear" started taking shape.

Of course, Huey probably didn't necessarily think a Metal Gear needed a nuke to be called such. After all, putting a nuke on ZEKE was originally Big Boss's decision, not his. Still, Sahelanthropus technically fit the definition due to the depleted uranium baked into its shell. Using metallic archaea, it was possible to activate that uranium and cause it to go nuclear, so Sahelanthropus was still technically a nuke, just not a launch platform.

When Outer Heaven made the TX-55, that's when the definition of "Metal Gear" as a "bipedial nuclear launch platform" was truly solidified. Following the TX-55, Metal Gear D and REX would both go on to have built in launch capabilities. RAY, on the other hand, was designed specifically to take down bootleg REX offshoots. Because it was designed to counter those offshoots, which where themselves nuclear launch platforms, it fit the definition of "Metal Gear" purely due to arbitrary technicality, as a part of "nuclear deterrence". Coupled with Arsenal Gear, which further loosened the definition of Metal Gear by being the "Metal Gear of the Information Age", the definition of Metal Gear was largely shattered. REX would be the last nuclear-equipped Metal Gear, while RAY would be the last "proper" Metal Gear by whatever definition was accepted at the time.

>>719670548
Bullshit. If anything the game reminds me of cheesy japanese movies.

>>719658725
>>719659061
Twin Snakes was worse in many ways (worse music, for example) but the Kojima-ified cutscene direction was an upgrade in many cases. It's just brought in line with the other games in the series, and no one complains about the over-the-top cutscenes in those. Gray Fox especially benefited a lot from it since he was always meant to be over-the-top.

>>719670864
Metal Gear Excelsior in Metal Gear Rising was explicitly stated to not actually be a true Metal Gear, but only called as such for marketing purposes. This was a bit of a joke and the canonicity of Rising in regards to the Metal Gear canon as a whole was sort of questionable. Platinum wasn't really sure just how canon this game would be. Metal Gear Rising also doesn't really fit with Metal Gear as a whole due to its weak stealth mechanics and lack of a true titular Metal Gear, so one could say it was a Metal Gear in name only.

>>719665841
>retarded and permanent random input lag for walking, running and climbing
Fix your PC

>>719662130
>and snake is slow as shit with all new mocapped animations.
There is 0 new mocap

>>719662550
Nigger take a shower

>>719670864
Ocelot gave Granin's designs to Philosophers along with the money

>>719671252
Most gameplay animations for Snake are new and they credit a lot of mocap shit.

>>719666994
>I'm thinking about the Les Enfants Terribles
So you want a game where you play as Snake getting his blood taken then it cuts to watching a test tube for 30 hours?

>>719670932
For an OST in a remake TTS is bad, taken on it's own merits (techno beats) it's fine.

>>719671161
All my games are snappy af, but UE5 slop is somehow works like shit

>>719669298
Strangelove was a unique genius with AI and killing sent the knowledge to the grave with her

>>719669298
its called kojima being hack who does not give a single thing about the continuity

***codec chirp***
>EVA: Snake.
>SNAKE: What?
>EVA: Have you ever been with a woman before?
>SNAKE: What do you mean?
>EVA: I mean, intimately.
>SNAKE: ...why?
>EVA: It may be required of you during this mission. It is crucial that your information extraction techniques are up to par.
>SNAKE: I have undergone seduction resistance- and offensive training.
>EVA: And?
>SNAKE: ...
>EVA: Snake, there have been thousands of books written on women, do you really think a simple military pamphlet can capture it all?
>SNAKE: ...
>EVA: Meet me at the cabin. I'll teach you a few moves.
>SNAKE: Can't you just tell me over comms?
>EVA: Snake, this kind of excercise requires physical participation, by at least two parties.

>>719671651
Ever since I first played this game when I was a kid, I just couldn't stop picturing The Boss teaching a young Snake how to make love to a woman.

I can't be the only one, r-right?

>>719668621
What is up with kojima and evangelion parallels

>>719660776
They called it delta because its a TRIangle as in three it has three corners, mgs 3

By the way the M on marios cap stands for M and the gas in peaches castle basement is actually peaches fartgas

And thus it stands to reason that the Mgs1 remake should be called Metal Gear Solid: A Hideo Game Story

>>719655512 (OP)
Why is it impossible to make a new metal gear without hideous kojima?

>>719662410
The console version of peace walker plays fine, its only the psp version that sux

>>719673027
>What is up with the guy who recycles better media into his video games

Feels good to win MGS bros.

>>719673109
because konami owns the IP and they stopped developing games since 2010
at best they can outsource their shit and it will be something cheap because that's what the suits want

>>719673221
Evangelion is trooncoded midwit faggot shit

>>719673769
Sales doomers on suicide watch

beautiful

perfect

you're pretty good

BigBoss

>>719675602
Is this the legacy filter? This game is beautiful holy shit

>>719667485
MGS V was a mistake. Peace Walker would have been fine. Zeke was fine, Zadornov, Jailbait, Nicaragua, all fine. An MG1 remake dlc to follow it could have made sense and it'd be fine. Then they could follow it up with Rising and be done.

>>719662410
>Peace Walker in terms of storytelling is excellent

>>719675842
no filter

>>719655512 (OP)
sovl

Remember to apply gaussian blur / dlss to reach peak realism

>>719674004
Nta but jokes aside, why is Konami so incompetent? I thought Japs were supposed to not only be intelligent but also have good taste. But it seems Konami has neither.

Look at it this way. If Konami were a person, their behavior would be that of a mentally ill person. Think about it. They hit the jackpot with Silent Hill and Metal Gear. And what did they do? They dismantled Team Silent and outsourced the SH games to soulless Western developers, which completely ruined the IP. Then they had a moment of lucidity and asked Kojima to clean up the mess, only to fire him, thus ruining the possibility of reviving SH and also of creating any new MGS games without backlash. Seriously, what the fuck. It's almost like Konami represented self-sabotage.

>>719655512 (OP)
I agree with the presenter of this video—please take a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa_tgi6F_Vs

>>719676423
I will not, I will continue to buy remakes.

>>719662410
>Peace Walker in terms of storytelling is excellent
Kek

>>719676423
Not giving your slopchannel views

>>719676470
>>719676536
I couldn't care less, stupid heads! *blows a raspberry*

>>719667198
>>719676572

>>719676423
>people in the comments recommending master collection
if you're going to do "old good new bad" why the fuck would you recommend the paid version that has broken effects and missing modes. do these people actually play these fucking games

>>719676336
>I thought Japs were supposed to not only be intelligent but also have good taste.
only people who never interacted with japanese companies or japanese consumers thought that

>>719676423
Come the fuck on. This is easily the first decent remake since RE1.

>>719676721
So... what are they really like?

>expected mgsv with mgs3 levels
>its literally just mgs3 with "better" graphics
>still have the antiquated loading screens and radio conversations
>modern controls/gameplay nowhere close to as tight as mgsv from a decade ago
>TWO buttons for slow walking
what the fuck is this piece of shit? is this medium on its dying breaths?

The only good part was the final boss and post-game story cutscenes. The rest of the game was dogshit; if that's the best of the series I can't imagine how bad the rest of the games are. No idea why the last 1/5 of the game turned into an on-rails shooter for no reason. What the fuck were they thinking.

>>719676830
why tf would you expect any of that when the entire appeal of Delta is "we left most everything like it was in the original/gave you the option to change it back"

>>719677004
because mgs3 already exists nigger

>>719677176
Yeah, and the point of Delta is MGS3 in UE5.

Is mgs3 intended to be replayed multiple times in a row? I love the game but I have no desire to replay and get all the secret theater collectibles and kero tans and stuff. Do I just have no attention span?

>>719677584
yes? there's a reason it gives you a rank at the end.

game is great

>>719677584
I replayed Subsistance and Master Collection re-release after finishing Delta not for honor but forfun after finishing Delta. And while I still had fun with Delta, the original one is better experience.

How did Snake have no reaction to getting his balls squeezed so hard they made an audible sound? That sounded fucking painful

>>719676336
>why is Konami so incompetent?
from a business standpoint they're doing okay : they just moved from high risk investments like vidya development to safer stuff
they still have a bunch of IPs but if you're risk adverse it's just remakes, collections and whatnot
the fact that people keep buying that shit is also the reason why they'll never sell their IPs either : they've sold mgs3 like 4 times now

>>719676423
I'm happy people are starting to hate demakes.

>>719676667
Most people are fucking retards. Here is one now>>719676758

>>719677303
ue5 means nothing to the consumer. even with a standardized engine, game content still takes much longer to create than before
if they wanted a safe test run for future remakes, the bare minimum was the modernized gameplay play as smooth as mgsv, then the microscopic ps2 levels and budget friendly radio exposition can be overlooked

>>719677780
And I'm planning to beat PAL version of Snake Eater next. I mean, It looks like PCSX2 got 99% of vfx scaling in Subsistence right and game looks better than HD or Master Collection. Even 50FPS seems cleaner and less buggy, than In newer releases.

>>719677749
>are ya winnin son

>>719655512 (OP)
It's second-best behind MGSV

>>719677914
>from a business standpoint they're doing okay : they just moved from high risk investments like vidya development to safer stuff
this is something that people don't seem to realize ever since they chose to focus on Pachinko over gaming.

Konami isn't a gaming company, it's a Business Conglomerate with involvement in several fields, but best known in the west for its Digital Entertainment division.

>>719678320
It fucking sucks that the MC wasn't perfect. I was really excited to just have those installed forever instead of having to emulate, since those versions would be way easier to mod. MGS3 even got that crouch walking mod which is cool but the port is so bad I just can't play it over the original.
Sucks that the remake is meh too, but that was to be expected.

>>719676830
>modern controls/gameplay nowhere close to as tight as mgsv from a decade ago
To be fair no game will ever come close

You know, I won't deny that Kojima is a hack. But he is a very entertaining hack.
If Konami came crawling back to him for mgs6, I would genuinely be excited about the acid trip waiting for me.

>>719655512 (OP)
>mgsv style gameplay
False

>>719678506
>Konami isn't a gaming company
Everything they do is games
>digital games
>physical games
>arcade games
>gambling games
>sportsball games
lol

>>719666480
I have to pour water on a MGS2 remake

I got to realize playing delta that MGSV's camera system does not work well in tight indoor spaces, the classic camera with bespoke overlooks in rooms works best. MGSV's controls don't really add anything to MGS2 other than you can shoot easier in a game you shouldn't shoot through. They can still remake the game but it really only makes sense as a graphics upgrade. And what is this konami team going to do? Upgrade the graphics on the MGS series forever? I'd rather see reimagined remakes with new level design.

>>719678691
Didnt mods fix mostly all the issues of the MC

>>719662786
it came out in the HD collection in the ps3/360 era, I'm surprised you didn't play it then. IT even had online coop

And yes, it's a simplified game you can't even crawl in. So it has to be upgraded a lot.

>>719679881
They don't fix anything important, it's like having a gash and slapping a bandaid on it.

>>719655512 (OP)
people are only bitching about performance, but as tech improves that'll be a non-issue. I'm just happy it's a 1:1 remake and not alt-history garbage like nuRE and FF7R

>>719679852
>Upgrade the graphics on the MGS series forever?
eventually we'll even get a rap version of "the best is yet to come"

>>719680043
it's like 0.7:1 not 1:1

>>719668034
That should've been in its own game and the fact that it's exposition dump in mgs4 will always a mistake

>>719668164
This is when I stopped caring about kojima's canon when peacewalker had metal gears advanced as rex

>>719680043
>one of the most demanding games ever made
>has PS2 sized levels and early 2010s graphics
>retards defend this

>>719669878
>>719671565
I'll never accept *because in-universe reason*. Watching the linear progression of primitive metal gears turning to into science fantasy wonders will always have been more appealing. I fucking love the shagohod. It's your grandfather's metal gear. Kojima could've made cool 80s nostalgia metal gears like the MSX series and it would've been awesome but no

>>719680043
this nigga zesty.
Literally!!

>>719680558
>how much is 2+2?
>and don't say 4
>give me a real answer

>>719680790
The story isn't real. The question is why did kojima think this was a good idea

>>719656852
tendie sighted. please post hwinfo or your ps5 to gain a bit of credibility back.

>>719661331
Twin Snakes would be revered if it came out today by the post 2007 wave of retards which is the vast majority of people playing video games now.

>>719680558
yeah the visual design of the shagohad is still maybe a bit too modern, but the idea of it being like a land ground effect craft fucking ruled, wish we got more 'retro' designs with that same sort of philosophy

>>719658725
the twin snakes is great . it's not a replacement for the original by any metric but it's a very fun reimagining to play alongside it. only faggots dislike it. the absurdity of the cutscenes goes so far it circles around to kino.

>>719656762
movement feels like garbage dude, I still liked the remake and finished it but that movement is so bad. also started playing Peace Walker HD on Xbox again, and this game is still fun as shit.

>>719681009
it was a screw drive / hovercraft hybrid. I wish they showed it could travel across water

Funny thing screw drives are the ultimate all terrain vehicle and they can drive in swamps better than airboats. If you put a davy crocket nuclear launcher on a screw drive tank it's literally a metal gear. I think they are gas hogs though

Delta is fine and all, but I really want a Portable Ops remake.
They will never do it though, the game suffers from a lack of content and would need a total re-write for a lot of things in the story to flow better. I don't think many people would care as well.
I just want this game to have actual codec conversations. Even Ghost Babel has significantly more codec content than it.

>>719681058
That's why people dislike it though, it serves as a replacement for the original in practice for people with gamecubes.

>>719681058
>the absurdity of the cutscenes
I'll never get this
people mock snake for flipping on the other side of a door and that's literally raiden's default roll in mgs2
not to mention the entirety of vamp, running on water, up buildings and dancing, or ocelot jumping on top of a ray from ground level
twin snakes is as retarded as the other ones

Where in the series would you guys want to see an original MGS game attempted? Would the protag even be snake? Do you want metal gear liquid?

I still wish they had remade Metal Gear 1 + 2 since MGSV's ending leads straight to the first game in the series.

>>719681476
I genuinely want to see that WW2 MGS game with the Boss working with the Cobras.

>>719681314
yeah not literally, i just mean that feels like the closest equivalent. a big weird unorthodox prototype missile platform

screw drives are awesome too

>>719681476
Games set before MGS3.

>>719681476
WW2 Cobras game 100%, could potentially be a lot of fun if it was done well, and wouldn't have to be crowded into the timeline as much.

Reminder that MGO never got added in Delta all because Japanese audiences didn't want it

>>719677749
Is she saying i should masturbate to her cute tits instead or what?

mgs1 remake 2028 fr

>>719681459
that ruins an aesthetic choice that's longstanding in the series. Snake is a normal guy with miminal flare and superpowers. Big boss and boss also follow this tradition and it serves up irony that the normal soldiers were the greatest soldiers of their generations and the comic book power fags got owned. MGS also has other archtypes like ninjas, which would include raiden and grey fox and there was another one in old metal gear 2. You can't just make snake a ninja, it's not his thing and the ninjas in the series are supposed to stand apart from non-ninjas, it's a tragic path that ends in cyborg body horror and exploitation. It's not about how realistic/unrealistic it is. This series has a man covered in bees.

>>719658725
did you guys see the VR remake of MGS1?

>>719677859
Thats just the pants and gloves squeezing

>>719677859
He enjoyed that shit.

>>719660663
a triangle has 3 Lines
then the remake of MGS2 will be MGS X
remake of MGS1 will be MGS O
and finaly remake of MGS4
MGS ◘

>>719682034
what?

>>719682032
you know what, I can accept this explanation

>>719661331
twin snakes was bad cause aiming in first person BREAKS mgs1

mgs3 already had smooth gameplay, adding a dive to it wont change much

>>719681476
>ww2 game about the boss
>a game showing the formation of the patriots between 1964-1974
>game set during the gulf war showing solid and liquid snakes perspective
>philanthropy adventures between mgs1 and mgs2
>a game about raiden saving sunny
There are quite a lot potential ideas to fill in gaps within the timeline

I haven't been using this board much for a few months, but it's safe to say that Delta didn't have as much hype leading up to it's release date like V did, right?
The only thing I remember so far was when screenshots/footage were getting revealed, there was always a group of faggots trying to spam threads about how the Boss and EVA supposedly looked like men.

>>719681476
honestly i would be open to more stuff that's completely noncanon like ghost babel or acid

>>719682309
>I haven't been using this board much for a few months, but it's safe to say that Delta didn't have as much hype leading up to it's release date like V did, right?
Yeah, you're kinda right. I believe the main reason for this is that it's a Metal Gear game without Kojima involved.

>>719682309
It had 1 autistic shill who was "hyped" but mostly not many cared. Then it had an extremely bland release with hardly anyone talking about it which kinda shocked me, it's basically already forgotten and didn't sell well(seemingly).
The Boss does look like a man.

>>719682123
Omicron, Chi or Lambda, Sigma

This is assuming they thought of a remake naming scheme and all and they weren't just like "delta sounds cool"

>>719668164
how did we went from THIS to realy small smartphones?

>>719682309
not even close. but even if kojima was still there it probably wouldn't have, it's just a straight remake at the end of the day.

>>719682393
>didn't sell well(seemingly)
I too like to obsess over Steam charts while ignoring the PS5/Series S/X playerbase.

>>719655717
If they remake Peace Walker I'll buy 10 copies.

>>719675531
you magnificent nigger
i know what you did

>>719660876
They fell for one of the classic blunders.

>>719659114
Pops would be lit but idk how you would translate that gameplay, it was rough

>>719682521
why are you acting like anyone buys console games

>>719682309
V was one of the most overhyped games ever created but it's balanced out by not making a nickel back because of Kojima's overabundant spending.

I can't even play this remake without my PC BSODing. I have no idea what's causing it. Every other game, even other UE5 games, work fine except this one.

>>719656286
KBM is way fucking better

>>719662130
>tranq range and duration got nerfed
They must've done it in a bullshit way, because I have literally aimed directly at someone's head a few feet away, and it shoots their radio instead.

>>719682556
Peace walker seems like a good choice because it's adapting a kojima story that wasn't presented with the scale and budget it should. A lot of series fans skipped it, It's basically the first part of MGSV and several major characters were introduced in it. A remake would have co-op. Konami can use MGSV assets to make it and save a lot of time.

And personally I hope they don't do it. I consider it the start of Nu MGS and I didn't care for the story, nor the mission format and base RPG mechanics, and I want scenario driven game in a single contiguous location.

>>719682248
some one made a VR mgs1 demo
it looks glorious
https://youtu.be/WwI55rOEsq8

>>719683016
for fuck sake
i didnt want to send the video of some gay streamer but i have no choice

that is the wrong video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-1T3Dp-zAE

>>719683005
>because it's adapting a kojima story that wasn't presented with the scale and budget it should. A lot of series fans skipped it, It's basically the first part of MGSV and several major characters were introduced in it.
literally nothing you said here is true

>>719683016
this is just assets loaded in vrchat

>>719682393
>it's basically already forgotten and didn't sell well(seemingly).
it did sell well and is currently undergoing the "did you know [random thing you can do in the game]" youtube farming cycle.
i'm expecting another remake in the near future, likely announced around the same time we get a trailer for SH1R.

>>719662161
The cutscenes in Twin Snakes are iconic

>>719683161
you're thinking portable ops

>>719655550
1 and 2 would be the hardest games to remake. it would have to be a resident evil style remake a 1:1 remake wouldn't be possible

>>719665598
This game released 7 years ago.

>>719682895
if you have a 13/14th gen intel, try underclocking your CPU. game wouldnt even launch for me until I used intel XTU to cut the performance

>>719683228
>it did sell well
some serious cope

>>719683184
yeah wrong video >>719683141

my B

>>719662161
the problem wasnt the cutscenes
it was the RE-recorded audio

cause the audio for MGS1 was done in a shit studio and you could hear people fucking in the background in hi quality so they had to re-record it

>>719683141
well this is better but its a boneworks mod and the most important part which would be guard AI and subduing guards instead of just shooting them isn't in the mod

>>719677969
Don't get me wrong, I hate demakes too. But this is the first remake since RE1 that doesn't seem to vomit all over the original.

>>719683352
do you have any proof that it didn't?

>>719683498
>that doesn't seem to vomit all over the original.
it does though

>>719659114
>METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: The Twin Snakes

Pls

>>719683228
>currently undergoing the "did you know [random thing you can do in the game]" youtube farming cycle.
I have noticed that too. I wonder if Delta is actually going to make people play the rest of the games, or if it's going to be the new Rising, which does have the reputation of people liking it but never actually playing the rest of the series, or even Rising itself.

>>719683518
not really though. probably the most faithful remake we've gotten in years

>>719683643
the fact that the fucking included the PEEP SHOW and the guy savage proves that fact

>>719655512 (OP)
Brown thread.

>>719681058
>>719681459
I agree

>>719682032
I also agree

>>719683643
>looks worse
>sounds worse
>ruins cutscenes
>runs like shit

>>719683802
>runs like shit
So it's a faithful remake then huh?

>>719683802
>runs like shit
this isn't a problem for white people though

>>719683802
life must be hard being a poor retard who cant enjoy anything

>>719683839
>>719683840
>>719683943
of course the fanboys will deny those facts

>>719683802
>>looks worse
wrong!

>>719683995
Deny what? You said the game isn't faithful, list poser shit like "runs like shit", which applies to the original. So what do you want? The remake to be unfaithful to the original and have actual good performance? Make up your mind dammit!

>>719683418
>you could hear people fucking in the background

>>719683518
Would you kindly say where? I honestly can't see a major flaw in it.

>>719684164
yeah
the audio quality got downgraded cause ps1 cd and compression

they recorded MGS1 in a fucking apartment
you can hear cars and people screaming in the background in the high quality version

>>719684053
this hat makes 0 sense and my day is ruined

>>719660423
this

>>719684053
>proves that it looks worse

>>719655512 (OP)
his hair looks like a wig

>>719684408
How does your hair look

>>719684390
you are just not used to seeing soul in a modern game anon

>>719684469
like hair

>>719683005
>And personally I hope they don't do it. I consider it the start of Nu MGS and I didn't care for the story, nor the mission format and base RPG mechanics, and I want scenario driven game in a single contiguous location.
I mean I get what you're saying. It was clearly the start Poke-Boss trying to become the best that no one ever was catch Soldiermons is his true test, to train them is his cause. At the same time, Peace Walker is probably the best version of that concept that was ever done. MGSV's version is pretty basic compared to PW's version, and it would mean we get Co-op MGS again.

>>719684590
>the most generic unreal engine aesthetic is soul
fucking idiot

How did a faggot like Huey not only manage to have a kid with Strangelove, a known lesbian but then also murder her?

>>719681374
not my problem. I already played mgs1 at least a dozen times before preordering it on gamecube and beating it 5 hours after getting it

>>719655512 (OP)
>the best kojima story

You literally have to be an absolute historylet, I mean someone who literally knows absolute jack shit about anything that's ever happened ever, ever, to like Kojima's writing and history revisionism. Hell, you can barely classify it as revisionism because Kojima himself doesn't even know what happened because 20th century history isn't even taught in Japan. Literally the only good MGS games are the Solid Snake ones, because they take place in the future and it's much easier to dismiss the nonsensical story, they're way easier to enjoy.

But the big boss games, especially MGS3, anyone with an above room temperature IQ has to skip the cutscenes and eye roll at shit like China being the big bad guy in the Pacific theater during WW2. I understand zoomers and retards won't get the problem with that, but even playing this as a teenager when it first came out I could not believe the blatant rewrite of history this fucking jap slapped in and got away with. The story of MGS3 is fucking retarded

>>719684590
This. Jaded oldfags legitimately cannot spot soul in modern games

>>719655512 (OP)
His brow and demeanor are too soft, this is not what Big Boss looks like. Did they even try? They did a better job on Ocelot but he looks like he's starving to death.

>>719685095
>hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr i can't enjoy video games if they're not historically accurate
stick to your autistic map painting games you lifeless faggot

>>719685175
Trvke

>play on ultra at 1440p
>never once have a frame drop
i thought this game was unoptimized?

I want a MG1 and MG2 remakes (MG, not MGS). It would be a nice way to gauge of the franchise can survive without Kojimbo

>>719685095
Is being a history buff a smart people thing? Am I just retarded for not knowing history past a certain level?

>>719684983
Huey wasn't always a faggot. He became that way because of his work and him selling his morals out to make his dreams come true. It's the classic case of "Well if I did this, then how about that? Or that? Or that?" and it spirals out of control to him locking her in an AI pod until she starves to death because he had a panic attack.

>>719685281
It's unoptimized for brownoids trying to play the game on their GTX 750 dell optiplex build

>>719685281
>probably has a 5090 with DLSS

>>719685340
>Am I just retarded for not knowing history
Yes.

>>719658725
>TS

>>719685104
bet. those uncs are delulu af or got their brain cooked or vision tanked fr. modern vidya is soul and vibes af x1000 vs oldschool sleepy tier shiz.

>>719685340
Play HOI4 like me and you will truly know how World War 2 REALLY happened.

>>719685367
no i have that off, well set to native because theres no option to turn it off

>>719685095
>Game has giant robots, ghosts and soldiers with super-powers
>history revisionism

>>719685281
>i thought this game was unoptimized?
Hearing unoptimized for this game should ring this in your head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i7nyCmLyAk

>>719685409
This game would be aesthetic as fuck if they didn't steal all the art and concept drawings.

>>719685296
MGS1 is almost a remake of MG2. I feel like if a remake of MG2 resembled the original more than superficially it would be repeating too many things

it really is crazy how you can tell who is a brokie or not with one word

>>719685095
In case you haven't noticed, Japs hate dogeaters who smell like garlic.

>>719685495
The original metal gears took place in the not too distant future....anon, that was the entire point of the post, that's why MGS3 is dog shit

>>719685690
-> >>719685409
brokie or not?

>>719655512 (OP)
I don't think I can go back to the jankiness and piss filter of the original, bros...

>>719666378
Nobody has the cojones to even approach creating/writing that interquel. What would even happen? What would the characters say to each other? Each MGS game was littered with insane details and lore. The codec calls themselves have so much damn detail in them, like 9 hours of banter/lore/trivia each. It's crazy. It's a tremendous undertaking and would require finding another insane "ideas guy" with like 1000+ ideas that are a mixture of autistic, retarded, and badass. The people that made Delta, just like the people that made the SH2 remake, are hired grunts. They cant really add anything because that wasn't part of the job description. An MGS6 would need a mastermind. Who would that person even be?

>>719685495
No one has a problem with MGS, just MGS3

>>719685975
>>719666378
>>719655512 (OP)

>>719666378
All of gray fox, sniper wolf, outer heaven is left up in the air and we dont know how or why snake went back to america, what happened to DD or what happened between venom and kaz.

>>719655512 (OP)
So an Unreal engine eyestrain simulator is better than the rest of the franchise? I dont know man.

You guys literally sound like whiny bitches with this bitching about graphics. The frame rate is okay to complain about but this game is amazing looking

>>719686029
>>719685878
>The original metal gears took place in the not too distant future
Fucking kek. Your point being?

Watch out, guys. There's a comic called Watchmen and it features advanced technology and superheroes... EXISTING SINCE THE 1930s!!!

>>719686445
No one in this thread has a problem with MGS, you're having trouble taking legitimate criticism about your favorite game. MGS, the story, works best when it's set in the future, not the past. Most will agree ; )

How's the multiplayer mode? Is it better than MGO?

>>719686790
Not out yet

>>719686954
Any new info about it yet?

>>719655512 (OP)
Am i the only one that played in legacy mode? Like i'm genuinely surprised at how many youtubers and faggots played it on ez mode also retards talking about how bad the new theme is like bitch thats what you get for not choosing legacy mode

>>719686203
Kojima was probably going to continue the story. You can thank the niggers at Konami for firing him.

You know what? I'm just gonna say it. Some big shot like Elon Musk should buy Konami, kick the retards out, bring Kojima back and reassemble Team Silent. No more Mr. Nice guy. Ideally it should be a wealthy Japanese guy to keep it real. Hell, even Hiro himself would be a way better owner.

>>719684983
Strangelove went on record to say that he did not give a shit about Huey and just wanted a kid, and even said that she saw Otacon as her's and The Boss's child.

The irony about being a Historylet is that they don't know MGS1 and 2 went out of their way to actually be pretty good historical docs and presented a decent retelling of actual 20th century history as the backstory for the events that unfold in their games. MGS1 actually taught kids a decent amount of factual information and tied it together into its story. A 12 year old kid could actually gain some real knowledge playing it back in the day.

MGS3 is the complete anthesis of that, where it would actually make the kid dumber.

>>719687330
Are there laws and regulations about showing real war footage in a game?

>>719686203
The more we knew the worse it got so imo I'd be fine if they stopped filling the gaps

>>719687291
Thats not true. Mgsv wasnt even left unfinished. If you actually take the time and research this shit you will find out that kojima did everything the way he wanted. He left mgsv undone on purpose and wanted the story to be left up in the air. He can be a real faggot

>>719687389
At this point we might as well end it. We already shit the bed with venom

>>719686580
Kek. I honestly can't understand your criticism. It's like saying the game would work better if Snake wore brown boots instead of black.

I think the gameplay is better than MGSV
the problem with GZ and PP is that its too fucking streamlined, especially with that retarded SLOWMO bullshit that you cant turn off.
I've been debating whether to play it again but man its just too boring, especially the open world areas. I like interiors and linear enviroments because they're handcrafted unlike V that feels very generic and forgettable.

>>719687317
Huey did everyone a favor killing that bitch desu

>>719687494
End what?? It already fucking ended, multiple times at this point

>>719687552
End the prequels. At this point MGS is Big Boss’s story

>>719687537
>especially with that retarded SLOWMO bullshit that you cant turn off
retardbro...

>>719687537
>retarded slowmo bullshit that you cant turn off
Mgsv haters once again proving that they didnt play the game

>>719687595
>>719687615
the game came out 10 fucking years ago you spaz retards. do you think i would have bitched about this if I knew about this? anyway the gameplay still feels like a downgrade from 3,2 etc. even peacewalker felt better and that shit was designed for ds graphics

>>719687428
For the time being. The truth is, people change. New experiences, new thoughts, new goals. Creators toy with new ideas all the time. It wouldn't have been unusual for Kojima to change his mind eventually. Take a look at the history of the franchise. Or any other franchise. Everyone thinks the next entry will be the last one until it isn't.

Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and V was going to be the last. But it most probably wasn't. For obvious reasons.

Is it normal to get filtered by Peace Walker? Its the only metal gear I didnt love and wasnt obsessed with

>>719687512
Did China bomb pearl harbor instead of Japan?
.....

>>719687858
Normal? It proves you're an actual person and not just a mindless consumer NPC goy.

>>719687858
PW sucks.

>>719688008
Uhh, no? Kek. What the fuck does that have to do with Metal Gear?

>>719687858
I mean, its fun. But honestly the game is pretty bad, especially the missions and god awful tank bosses.
They would unironically need to redue entire aspects of the story and overhaul missions to be less shit.

Hell I thought Ground Zeroes was better than Peace Walker and Phantom Pain.

>>719688224
I don't know, maybe you should pay more attention to the story in MGS3 next time ya play it

>>719687291
>Kojima was probably going to continue the story.
No he wasn't. He writes every single Metal Gear game as if it's the last one and for good reason: He was already running out of ideas by Peace Walker, MGSV was just the nail in the coffin where the timeline gets all fucked up, Liquid never gets any kind of training in the desert like he says he did in MGS1, Psycho Mantis is a known government asset but joins FOXHOUND with no one questioning why the kid who helped liquid was allowed in, and more baffingly: Liquid gets to join FOXHOUND and even gains Solid's rank despite trying to steal their Metal Gear as a kid and destroy the world once already.

>>719688364
Where was it said in that game that china did pearl harbor?

>>719688627
oh yeah it's kind of weird how colonel, big boss, solid snake, miller, basically everyone just kind of overlooked already trying to overthrow big boss once already and destroy the world with throat parasites

soul

>>719688364
Get the fuck outta here, you cheeky retard. We both know there is no such thing in MGS3.

>>719655512 (OP)
censored so it's for faggots

>>719686203
Are these mysteries at all? Like what is to say about him meeting up with Gray Fox and Wolf, what story is there that isn't told already? Outer Heaven was made the same way MSF was, and then Diamond Dogs merges with it later to form a larger force. Kaz hates Big Boss for betraying him so when Venom went back to BB Kaz didn't go with him. Snake goes back to America to use Foxhound to cover and prepare for Outer Heavan. Only question there is why Zero and others in charge allowed that to happen, which isn't good enough for a whole new story to me.

>>719689005
>Only question there is why Zero and others in charge allowed that to happen, which isn't good enough for a whole new story to me.
It would be better as a side story in a novel or a radio drama than a game.
Snake during the peak of his mercenary career would be a fun game but there's no story

>all these normalfag remake options
Silly /v/
you think too small

>>719689005
>Only question there is why Zero and others in charge allowed that to happen,
Zero was a vegetable by the events of the Phantom Pain and their organization was ran by AIs by time the original Metal Gear happened

>Snake recovers the Philosopher's Legacy blueprints from The Boss
>But loses them to EVA, who was secretly working for the Chinese all this time; she replaced it with a fake when Snake wasn't looking
>Except The Boss knew she was gonna do this and delivered the real one to Ocelot, who passed it on to the CIA offscreen, and kept a fake on her to give to Snake
>So Eva stole a fake from Snake and left another fake in its place
Is there a Metal Gear game where the Snake of the game isn't a patsy for higher powers playing chess with each other?

>>719688627
>He writes every single Metal Gear game as if it's the last one
That's exactly my point. Eventually he would've come up with something that would be at the moment the new "last one". And it would probably retcon even more things which would complicate the timeline even more. But that's something to be expected when it comes to sequels. And hey, at least we would be having new entries. Sure, maybe they wouldn't make much sense in the grand scheme of things. But there is no denying that they would be fun. And that means they would have been enough. Because as long as we are having fun, then nothing else matters.

>>719689270
Why would the AI allow this, also Sigint and Paramedic were still around.

>>719689156
>Snake during the peak of his mercenary career would be a fun game but there's no story
>but there's no story
Again, /v/, you think too small.

>>719689279
MGSV, Snake is the guy manipulating and tricking everyone in that one, including the player character.

>>719689370
Big Boss was a legendary figure within America and among militaries around the world and the key person Zero wanted to create a cult around. It makes sense that they had no problems letting Big Boss come back to work with them. Its similar to how Ocelot, a founding member of the Patriots, was allowed to work with Liquid and Solidus.

>>719689502
Venom Snake gets manipulated by a higher power so that doesn't count.

>>719689279
MGS2 and MGS4

>>719655512 (OP)
It flopped and people know it sucks.
Come back in several years before you make this thread when they (don't) fix it.

>>719671161
Has nothing to do with his pc retard. UE5 has a shitty input system for characters that gives them a weighted movement to add “realism”

>>719689616
>MGS2
Raiden takes the codename Snake for the Big Shell infiltration and is used as an unknowing weapon by the Patriots to eliminate Dead Cell, who want to destroy the Patriots and take over the world.

Wouldn't be able to tell you about MGS4.

>>719661787
You get spotted through the water from any distance too. On top of that snake makes a hilariously loud splashing/swimming noise that I have no idea how nobody thought to either lower or change. You can be under the dock and it sounds like a fucking small creek is flowing underneath the guard

>>719671252
>>719662130
I don’t know if they actually remocapped or not. But ue5 uses some shit called motion mapping that instead of controlling snake from center mass like you do in mgs v, where he feels very gamey, but controls as smooth as butter, mgs delta has snake control from an invisible line in front of him where all the animations blend in to move you in that direction. It’s why he feels so clunky to control in this. It’s insanely noticeable if you load up mgs v and control venom, then load up delta and control snake, he plants his feet way more prior to every animation.

>>719689005
DD isnt outer heaven defeats the whole purpose of it. Its supposed to be the players own msf thats used against nukes

>>719682123
big if true

>>719689005
Mgsv is literally all filler. You dont “need” to do anything.

>>719690784
Every game Big Boss game after 3 was filler. Hell 3 filler.

>>719655512 (OP)
I actually agree

It's so bizarre to me that Konami never improved on MGO
Maybe like a game where you infiltrate areas with teammates but with actual story and context along with good design

>>719691063
Seemed like making a free to play version of MGO would've been a smarter business move instead of whatever was going on with Survive.

>>719685975
The entire writing team/localization team that worked on MGR. It's a shame that'll never happen again. MGR has one of the best scripts ever written for vidya. That's not saying much considering
>vidya
but it's so damn good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srR4aZMTYwE

Click any random moment. Natural, free flowing exposition and dialogue that colors and fills in a post-MGS4 world. This was 100% the team for an interquel.

>>719691063
it's insane that they never shit out some coop mode or spinoff aside from pw, it seems like such a no-brainer

>>719691142
Survive happened when they were at peak Jew after seeing their profits tripled after they fired Kojima.

>>719662161
The cutscenes in Twin Snakes are no more ridiculous than any others in the franchise. Vamp running on water is 10x more silly than doing a flip over a missile you tard.

>>719692205
Vamp was a new character so even if it was silly it didn't mean Snake or Raiden were doing crazy stuff either

>>719655512 (OP)
I like it but the game design is outdated just like with every MGS game, the pacing is awful and shit like The Sorrow boss fight is boring and the motorcycle on rails shootout is boring too, the small maps with loading screen between each is outdated too, the game just isnt as fun as MGS5 and that one has it's own issues
>>719655550
I wish but it doesnt seem to be selling that well, zoomers don't understand Kino and honestly is an outdated game

>>719693431
>I wish but it doesnt seem to be selling that well
Where do people get this idea?

>>719658725
>Twin Snakes
Please god no, we need a proper modern remake of the OG game

>>719688941
why is there this weird, excessive motion blur on all character movement in the remake?

Snakes code name if he was british
unclothed serpent

>>719696252
Metallic apparatus?

>>719696252
>>719696296
The mogul?

>>719696252
>>719696296
>>719696329
Call me principal nought

tell me why I shouldnt get delta?
I never played a MGS game before, just Rising.

I forgot how this game just straight up turns into a movie after Sokolov dies. There's like 20 minutes of actual gameplay after that. Still kino though

>>719680043
ypipo don season dey head...

>>719675901
Don't worry, they'll make a new one and MGSV will become ok because it's not the latest entry that ruined the series anymore

>>719655512 (OP)
I'm just done with remakes.
Is there really some massive audience out there clamoring to play the classics but just can't because of the graphics? Make something new.

>>719655512 (OP)
>the best kojima story
it is the most basic, sure. even more straightforward than mgs1. but it is only "the best" story to people who like very basic, straightforward plots that are easy to understand. that isn't to say his other games are hard to understand, but mgs3 is able to be understood by people with sub 90 IQs.
mgs3 DOES have the best direction with the most charismatic characters. the moment to moment in the cutscenes are the most engaging out of any metal gear game with the best pacing out of all of them. but that is because the actual narrative is pretty formulaic, unlike mgs2 or mgsv or DS which are fairly avant garde in the stories they are telling and the methodology of delivering that narrative. yes, the pacing is worse in other games but that is because there is less of a roadmap for creating that kind of narrative.

>>719678691
>MGS3 even got that crouch walking mod which is cool
you didn't beat the game and installing this mod retroactively makes it so you haven't beaten the game even if you played the original release before even subsistence.

>>719655512 (OP)
>>mgsv style gameplay
It doesn't have that though

>>719700009
MGS2 is a whole bunch of gibberish. Nothing too special story wise.

>>719700137
>MGS2 is a whole bunch of gibberish.
like i said, people who have sub 90 IQs will stick to mgs3's plot because it is easy for them to understand. you need at least 95 IQ to understand mgs2.

>>719700228
or maybe its intelligent to just like stuff that just makes sense and not some literal word vomit nonsense that you idiots defend. Anyone with a brain who sat through that game would tell you that its a fucking joke

>>719655512 (OP)
if only it had gameplay

>>719655512 (OP)
Why'd it flop?

>>719700291
>literal word vomit nonsense
i am correct in my assessment that you have a sub 90 IQ if that is what you got out of mgs2. lmao

>>719700646
Its literally just propaganda and trying to condition you to be okay with being replaced and not passing your genes on. It reeks strongly of Them.

>>719700708
no it isnt false flaggin schlomo

>>719700826
Then explain it if you know it so well.

>>719700316
Better question : Why is Kojima Gay?

>>719700708
>it's word vomit!
>eeerrrm ackshually it is all intentional propaganda!
lmao brainlet

>>719701096
Still no explanation.

>>719670932
>and no one complains about the over-the-top cutscenes in those.
Front flip/backflip every 3 seconds like your average bollywood flick

>>719701118
i don't owe you anything, brainlet. move on and accept that you are retarded and can only follow basic hollywood action plots.

>>719683310
why not

>>719701378
Go watch your 300 hour cutscene again and rejoice about how you're getting cucked, Kojima tranny.

>>719689251
LOL the absolute kino, imagine how much kojimbo would seethe.

>Oblivion with new graphics for $70-90
>12903715209723075 players

>MGS3 with new graphics for $70-90
>19000 players

It's not the price, it's not that it is just a new release of an old game.
It's that MGS has always been mid and nobody cares anymore.

>>719702074
Plus Oblivion Remastered had exactly zero marketing. Todd just simply suddenly released it without warning to drive the Skyblivion mod devs to suicide.

I forgot the last two hours of the game is fucking kino hot damn.

>finished my second playthrough
>first one (new style) took 12 hours
>second one (legacy) took 4 hours
>legacy mode was so ass I want to do another run to get the bitter taste out of my mouth
>afraid of getting burnt out and sick of mgs3
what do bros

>>719704281
>legacy mode was so ass I want to do another run to get the bitter taste out of my mouth
is it ass because it doesn't have the KINOLUDO pressure sensitive controls?
>afraid of getting burnt out and sick of mgs3
you put it down for a bit and live life. games are something you do to enjoy, if you stop enjoying them then stop playing them.

>>719704281
play mgs4 and kill yourself

>>719704448
It's ass because you can't aim with the left stick in first person

>>719696441
Get delta after playing mgs1 and mgs2. Play it chronologically

>>719702717
Can you let me fuck when you troon out

>>719704672
why? I already know the story inside and out, I just never experienced it trough the story.
im a wikifag

>>719665598
and costed 20X the budget any other publisher can afford

>>719704783
wikis tend to overlap information from other games before they're introduced proper if you go through it chronologically, and you can see the foreshadowing and seeds being planted before they eventually happen which is nice. I know the story like the back of my hand but still do back-to-back playthroughs of the whole series every couple of years and it's fun.

>>719676423
futanari faggot grifter mad at Vtuber anime girl because she ghosted him LMAO

>>719700708
U wot? The ending message of the game is to pass on your legacy whatever you can

>guide is a quarter of the games length
tubeniggers have gone insane

>>719659114
brainlet, they called it delta because triangles have 3 sides

>>719706230
it is called delta because delta (kind of) means change but the same.
just like a chiral image. the symbol for delta is almost the chiral image of V. chirality is a theme in death stranding. as above, so below.

>>719707147
caramel please, let it go

I need another suppressor. What's my best options for getting one?

>>719707231
>caramel, please; let it go.
ftfy. also, i'm not caramel.

>>719707614
sneak up on guards, point your gun, point it at their face or balls and they'll shit out 3 items before running out

>>719708256
can guards drop suppressors?

>>719708446
yes

>not launching with Fox Hunt
The fuck were they thinking?

>>719682456
Yeah, but with Metal Gear, it's like going from a tablet to a flip phone

>>719708446
>>719708524
actually, I think what they drop is fixed, so it's pointless to save and reload multiple times trying to get something new
but ye, some drop suppressors

>>719677734
How? That sounds really boring

>>719677859
His balls were trained in cqc and countered.

woah

>>719671625
This. Kojima just shoves things he likes in his games and gives you some retarded explanation on why it works. Since his games are retarded by design, with nanomachines that are pretty much magic and some other bullshit, you just move along waiting for the next retarded bullshit. This is the essence of Kojima, it's you wondering what kind of retardation he's pulling out of his ass.

>>719708541
really? that was the only reason i was gonna buy it. glad i pirated it instead.

>>719709917
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UgoiyoAA-rI