Thread 719739096

Literally one of the best non-FS Soulslikes of all time. Biggest surprise of 2025 for me, dangerously based and great game.

>chinese shillslop
Don't care not buying

Too hard for me, I dropped it

>>719739096 (OP)
It's probably my 2nd favourite in the Souls genre.
>>719739910
Where did you get up to before dropping it?

>>719741771
NTA but i got to the tiger before the censored the game, fucker had no openings

game is good
>best looking panties locked behind DLC
I am ok with this

>>719739096 (OP)
I loved it and I'm playing Ai Limit now, it has a very similar mastery of level design.
I'd say Ai Limit has tighter levels overall and one of the best implementation of magic.
Wuchang has better combat and build variety though.

>>719739096 (OP)

It’s an excellent game that was sadly review bombed by thirdies and shitters.

>>719739910

The game improved after some patches, they actually give you some extra frames now, the game was really unfair before those fixes, once the boss knocked you down it was pretty much over with fast bosses.

>>719741962
For me it's Aerial Bulwark into Unstoppable Force. Didn't think to use the counter to build mp until ng+2, though

>>719741962
Yeah, that one can be a bit rough I guess. What weapon type were you using? If you were using Longsword you can try the Flamebringer which you got from the big bow guy in Cloudspire. With fire tempering its weapon skill shoots out a bunch of fire balls and against big bosses like the tiger it can wipe out 1/4 of their HP or more with each use.
>>719742380
It was punishing for sure but I wouldn't call it unfair. In my experience there were very few attacks that actually killed you if you just timed your get-up animation.

>>719739096 (OP)
It uses Unreal Engine 5 so it runs like shit for me

>>719742934

It's the worst part Im afraid, specially in some late areas of the game.

>>719739096 (OP)
Pirated, finished and bought it. Gonna have to do a secont and third run for those endings and quests.

>>719739096 (OP)
I'd play but looks like more UE5 shit performance, also didn't they censor the game?

>>719744586
It's technically censorship but it's not really what most people think of with that term. The only thing that really is close to typical censorship is you can't kill the few non-enemy peasants that are around. Everything else is more so adjusting the story around what the chinese review bomb was about. It's still not great because IMO every story change is pretty much worse to varying degrees than it was before, and a lot of the backlash I think was from people who weren't ever going to play the game anyway. Even so, I think the issue is a little bit overblown. It's weird but aside from those couple of boss dialogues the rest of the game is pretty much the same as it was before the patch.

I had fun with the few hours I played but there's just so much I want to play right now I sidelined it. I need to finish Ai limit too. feels good being a video game enjoyer and not a seething jaded faggot like most of /v/

>>719739096 (OP)
Beat it with longsword and went with Dual Swords and Spear for NG+, dualies and spear is literally easy mode.

wheres new content

>>719745190
I feel like Longsword can be just as good. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the Flamebringer absolutely shits on big bosses, and the sword counter makes a lot of human bosses and enemies really easy. The Serpent Fang can absolutely shit out damage with a feathering build and has a really great weapon skill. I think the reason the Longsword might not seem as good compared to clashing with duals or insta staggers with the steampowered spear is because most people just stick with the lashing whip, which while it's nice with its increased range, doesn't really have anything it really excels at, especially when it comes to boss fights, and its weapon skill is not really that good IMO.

>>719745941
Longsword is not bad by itself but i still going to rate it as the worst weapon type in the game. Each build has access to high burst damage in one way or another, so longsword's only real gimmick is the deflect. But 2kat gets deflect for free on one of the weapons, axe gets infinite clashes and 1handed gets the most ridiculously OP dodge in the game.

>>719745941
Flamebringers L1 attack with fire tempering annihilates fucking everything with the flying embers

>>719746164
I've not done a 1 hand or axe playthrough yet. Maybe once I come back to the game I will try the axe. If you've used the axe, what do you think is the most fun or best one to use?

>>719739096 (OP)
I went in expecting nothing special and was extremely happy with how much fun I had.
I don't care much about ranking it against other Soulslikes. I just know I had a lot of fun.

>>719746558
The one you get early that gives you a plunging attack. The plunge itself allows you to dodge some attacks since it launches you high in the air, and it also allows you to chase enemies that prone to run away.
1handed look incredibly underwhelming until you realize how utterly fucking busted their moveset and synergy with spells are. The basic r1 combo is trash, but dodge r1 into r1 is a loop that leads directly to the final hit and restores skyborn might. Uncharged r2 into r1 has the same effect. Together with the evasive maneuvers and general buff to all spell dmage this makes it by far the most busted weapon type. And if you don't fail NPC quest, you get a ridiculously busted 1handed for offense too.

>>719746697
Same. This was one I was thinking of maybe skipping, especially since the initial gameplay trailer in 2021 looked cheap and I think actually ripped stuff straight out of From's games. I liked the look of the newer trailers though, and it was only $70 and I had some gift cards to use, so I thought I'd try it and just refund if I didn't like it. Now it's my 2025 GOTY so far.
>>719746762
You mean the Zhanlu sword you get from Nian's quest, or a different sword?

>>719747087
>You mean the Zhanlu sword you get from Nian's quest
Yeah. The damage is insane with a correct buff.

>>719745051
>the issue is a bit overblown
Like fuck it is
Several bosses surviving their encounters completely breaks the story
It's implemented in a very obviously terrible way, with enemies just freezing in place when the fight is over, it's so bad people think it's a bug when they first see it
Turning half the level friendly also makes chapter 4 significantly easier and killing peasants sometimes could be used to farm skyborne stacks
All of these things affect fundamental design and make the game worse
Play on patch 1.4 or you did not beat the game

>>719747158
Which buff is that? And is it all the attacks that are strong or just spamming the weapon skill?

>>719747290
Feathering tempering. Even your base dodge r1 ends up hitting for over 600 damage, the skill will nest several thousands, it doesn't even matter by that point.

>>719747264
>Several bosses surviving breaks the story
Only really the Emperor surviving damages the whole story I think, and Zhao Yun kind of ruins his own story but that's mostly a side thing unrelated to the rest of the story. The other two don't really damage the story, just make those two bosses kind of weird since they both have dialogue about how much they care about their mission but then they don't care to fight to the death about it.
>implemented in a very obviously terrible way
It is currently yeah, but they've basically said they are going to fix that in a future patch. What we have now was just to get the 1.5 changes out as soon as possible.
>chapter 4 significantly easier
I feel like this wasn't really that bad. Chapter 4 was already the easiest chapter by far because you could sit back and wait for the enemies to take each other out, and the victor then would already be at low HP.
>Play on patch 1.4 or you did not beat the game
I already did like 8 playthroughs before patch 1.5

>>719739096 (OP)
I'm in chapter 4 and I'm about to tap out. It's boring as fuck andnthe exploration and keeping track of the obtuse as fuck NPCs is so frustrating

There's someone who wants to talk to me somewhere in the Palace Vegetable Garden, but of course he's nowhere to be found and somehow literally every one of the bajillion fucking sidepaths I take ends up being the main path funneling me to the next zone and boss

It just hasn't been fun for more than five minutes at a time the entire playthrough

I'm hardstuck at the Honglan fight. Also skeletons o algo

>>719748360
Just parry her. The timing is extremely lenient.

>>719739096 (OP)
>chink unreal engine sloppa
nah I’ll pass bro

>>719748438
Your loss (unless your PC is shit, then I understand)

>boot up Wuchang just after coming off of Khazan
>combat feels mid and slow in comparison
>almost refund
>keep playing
>level design and exploration goes crazy
>combat improves
>BTFO Lies of P imo
the chinks are fucking cooking lately and i'm ready for western studios to go bankrupt

>>719739096 (OP)
Wu Chang lmao

Is there a map of the first level anywhere? It's so large I feel like I'll never explore all of it. I'm finding new paths I didn't notice walking by the first time.

>>719739910
lol why this is board so shit at everything

Censored chink slop. Shan't be buying, simple as.

>>719749116
They really messed up by setting the game in chinkland.

>>719748903
Nah the combat is nowhere nearly as good as P's.
Weapon design, especially so.

I am very bad at video game. What is the cheesiest build in this game I can use to breeze through? I don't mind it it cheapens the experience. Please help me

I heard axe is cheesy but not sure what else or why

>>719745051
>and a lot of the backlash I think was from people who weren't ever going to play the game anyway.
Always is

>>719748930
Ain't nothing to fuck with

>>719746762
Which axe? Where do you get it? The starting axe is my favorite starting weapon since it has the same moveset as Bloodborne.
-t. still on the first level

>>719749184
It's a refreshing change for Westerners. Shame the CCP is so easily triggered and the game makers have to bow to them or get black bagged.

Quite fun but I feel the entire "we have Caelid at home" final area didn't need to exist, I felt burned out halfway and ended up just running past everything.

>>719749749
You get it from the roof near a flaming creepy dude with wings, not far from the beginning of the game.

>>719750048
I think I just beat that guy last night, but I haven't figured out how to get onto the building behind him, which has something gleaming. I went behind the building but that just took me to another part of the level.

>>719750043
nah to me the final area was 100% Mohg's Palace vibes way more than Caelid

>faggot OP says it's good
>doesn't explain why
this whole thread is shill bots circlejerking

>>719750362
Good level design
Good combat
Good bosses (mostly)
Good story (at least pre-1.5)

For me it's the mods

The game sucks ass

>>719750259
Too much rotten shit and weird fungi/vegetation for it to be like the palace

>>719750614
Why?

>>719750362
It's a well designed game, good map layout, good and unique levels despite being a UE5 game (how?) good bosses, weapons have different mechanics and a huge talent tree, shitty generic trash mobs, MC looks super generic . I think it's slightly better than Dark Souls 2 perchance on the same level as DS3

On the downside it's based on CHINESE MYTH and people don't like CHINA, it also contains walls of CHINESE TEXT about the dream and feathers o algo. My GOTY...so far

>>719750819
Exploration isn't fun, and can actually penalize you if you stumble into a biss fight by breaking quests
NPC quests are impossible to track and complete without a guide
Each weapon category only has three or four entries
Areas go largely unused with sparse enemy placement
The game has all the teething problems of old Souls games; goofy shit like being locked into a long animation before you can use the shrine menu, having to completely reenter the shrine menu after using a function, ditto with buying and selling items, not being able to check gear stats from storage, not being able to sort gear by stats, etc.

>>719750984
>generic mc
>probably spends days making le random mutt savior of the world in other souls games
?????????

>>719750984
>well designed game, good map layout, good and unique levels
All false

>>719751346
>All false
Why?

>>719751635
>>719751204
>>719748039

>>719751204
Fun is subjective. I found it a lot of fun. The NPC quests failing if you pass certain areas/bosses isn't great, but outside of the accidentally going to chapter 3 first most of the NPC quests are on the path to whatever area/boss that progresses their quest.
I did them without a guide.
Weapon variety is probably the most lacking thing I think.
Do you have any examples of an area you found too empty? Nothing really stood out to me.
I agree, there's a lot of UI design/QoL that could be improved. I'll also add item and upgrade descriptions auto-scrolling which can make them a pain to read.
Lacking weapon variety and a slightly tedious UI doesn't make the whole game suck IMO.

>>719751181
My favourite mod. I need more outfits though

>>719751204
>Exploration isn't fun
It was fun for me, going through those huge winding paths that end up connecting with each other is something you don't see often in this kind of games

The rest of your complaints are pointless, the game's combat is centered on the skills rather than the weapons so you don't need much variety (imagine Sekiro) and the gear is basically just there for cosmetics

>>719751745
Chapter 4? Game doesn't spam trash mobs? you ok sister?

>>719748360
Steam powered spear trivializes her

>>719751881
>I did them without a guide
Yeah no you didn't.
>Do you have any examples of an area you found too empty?
There are a lot of hallways and siderooms throughout the game that are empty for I think a sort of 'ambience', like quasi survival horror, or just populated with one enemy, that may or may not be difficult and may or may not even be appropriate for the zone. The entire puzzle area of Zhenwu Temple is a good exapmle of the former and latter, between most of the rooms and halls being empty save for one face-changer or lotus sorcer, or one or maybe two munchkin thief dudes, and then you have that one lone blight grabber neat the invisible path for no reason.
I think for a comparison, zones like Mort Grotto and Cloudspire are examples of perfect enemy density and variety

>>719750551
nice

>>719742158
AI limit is my GOTY

>>719752415
I did.
I can see how you mean with some rooms having just one enemy but I didn't find it too empty at all. The level is fun and challenging for its tougher navigation and long stretches between shrines. I don't think that it would be improved by making every other room have 3 weak enemies.

i did it chat

I think I made a mistake by respeccing into Feathering in Chapter 4

>>719753704
>I did
We both know that's not true, but, it's fine

>>719753986
You can constantly reset 30 levels
>ch4
are you even playing the game?

>>719753986
Why do you think it isn't true? What quest do you think is impossible without a guide?

>>719754353
Basically all of them. Especially the Wander Gang's and the jar-head kid

>>719739096 (OP)
Enjoyed it
Finished in 45 hours
Not sure I'll do a NG+ run anytime soon, I really hope they do an expansion

>>719754463
>Especially the Wander Gang's
Fuck this fucking shit quest, man

>>719754463
Can Jar-head really even be called a quest? You quite literally do nothing

The Great Yonder Gang is at least a real quest chain with decisions

>>719754463
>>719754646
What's so bad about the Yonder gang quest? Jar head actually I can understand, since you need to fully explore to get the items he needs.

Damn, Vermillion Feathers Honglan was pretty cool

>>719748360
Game wants you to party that's why you get a tutorial text right before her fight. It's poorly implemented since you then have to skill it though.
Parry trivializes every enemy with a weapon, I kept changing back to it whenever I was struggling with any armed enemy throughout the whole game.

Is it safe to explore the Palace area after Honglan ir do I need to go clear tje cave above Shu Sanctum first? I don't want to get stuck behind another point of no return, if it isn't already too late

>>719754878
You blink and they're all dead

>>719755798
Which chapter are you in?

>>719756725
Whichever one Vermillion Honglan is in. I assume 4.

>>719756784
huh....are you sure you didnt see other routes after vermillion honglan?

>>719739096 (OP)
I refuse to play a game called with Chang in the title

>>719757087
After defeating her there's just the floating doorway that takes me to the Palace
The only other way I can go is Shu Sanctum toward that cave

>>719739274
So just torrent it?
It was ripped on day 1.

>>719757215
>floating doorway
??
im starting to get really confused now
there should be a shrine right after vermillion honglan right, and there are two routes near it: one that leads to a little surprise and the other one into a deeper looking cave/mine with a tower inside yeah

>>719757430
The Honglan fight was in an entirely enclosed arena that I had to drop into, and after she died a black floating door (the kind Wuchang strikes with her chisel) appeared and was the only way forward

>>719757587
Oh right yeah
But after that you get to a shrine and should only have two new paths forward: up a certain to a surprise and into the cave for the next you-know-what

>>719757587
Did you talk with the storyteller back in the starting area and agree or refuse what he asked?

>>719757775
Yeah I'm asking if it's safe to explore that area or if I need to go back to Shu first. I don't feel like walking into a boss room by accident and progressing the game

Really starting to hate this fucking game.

>>719739096 (OP)
Wukong and Lies of P are better than that unironic slop

>>719757823
Yeah, I agreed to help the Bo people

>>719757975
1. Did you agree with the red woman while in the forest?
2. Did you talk to the midget storyteller AFTER the teleport and agree to do his quest?

If you answered Yes then No, I recommend you fuck off back to Shu and find your way to Revered Temple instead. If not, then yes keep exploring that area it's fine.

>>719757889
>Wukong
For some reason this runs worse for me than Wuchang

>>719758256
1. Yes
2. He didn't ask me anything. He remarked how far we've come and told me to press forward to meet my destiny or whatever. Which is why I'm fucking confused about where I need to go (avoid) to progress this stupid fucking game

>S Tier
BloodBorne
Dark Souls
Sekiro
Lies of Pee
>A Tier
Wuchang
Wukong
Dark souls 3
>B Tier
Ninja Gaiden Black
Ninja Gaiden Black 2
DMCV
>C Tier
Lords of the Fallen 2
>Dogshit Tier
Excrement
Dark souls 2
Elden Ring
Nioh1/2

>>719758381
You should go through the Honglan door first then and clear the area it takes you to first, then go back to Shu Sanctum afterwards.
>>719758323
Wukong looks better than this game doesn't it, so that makes sense. For me it's the opposite.

I have no intention of touching this again now that it's censored

>First souls game with an actually interesting premise
>"Nothing lasts Forever" tying into the desperation of the Ming trying to unnaturally extend their lives and empire through cannibalism. along with the struggle of trying to keep your sister alive
>But this made the Chinese angry so everything got fucked and censored
>The deluxe apology outfits that were supposedly nearly done are a no show
I legitimately thought Chinese devs were cool, but fuck them. Chink cunts. Never paying ever again.

>>719758381
Just do the place normally then, it's good stuff
Dont go back to Shu or Revered yet

>anons in a thread full of potential spoilers for a game they haven't even finished yet asking where to go every 5 minutes
holy shit just play the game

>>719759668
>if you talk to the wrong person in the wrong order you have to play the difficult 50 hour game over from the beginning
No thanks

>>719758792
>Dark Souls 2, Elden Ring, and Nioh in Dogshit tier
Lmao you’re either 12 or just mad they require you to use more than 2 brain cells. DS2 is jank but at least it tries to break the mold. Elden Ring has problems but still blows most of the A tier out the water in terms of scope and atmosphere.

Also putting fucking Ninja Gaiden Black in B tier? That’s peak skill expression. You just exposed yourself as a parryspammer who dies if he has to use a directional input.

>>719759828
You can beat NG+ cycles in 4-6 hours, and it's a fun opportunity to respec into a different weapon

>>719759828
???!? i've literally ignored all the NPCs and i'm already at the mountain level?!?!? did i bricked my game?

>>719739096 (OP)
>competing with lords of the fallen in the worst souls clone with a budget category.
you're not fooling anyone.

It's mediocre garbage, they just give up with the bosses and make you wait until you can smack them in the back and knock them down. The level design is actually really good but it sucks and the story is total chink gibberish which they couldn't even stick to because of their need for censorship. It's not even like stellar blade where they built it for making you horny, they had a generic asian woman protagonist with a generic sexy body and they slightly amped up the sex appeal because of SB.

I don't think i've ever seen a dev rape their own game like they did with 1.5. It's absolutely insane. Forget about spine, the dev hasn't got a single solid bone in their whole body.

>>719758794
>>719759192
Thanks

>>719759828
This except the game hasn't been difficult except the Ice General faggot

>>719760721
If you use the spear you can make believe the game is hard.

>>719760721
It's as hard as any Souls game.

>>719760331
>competing with [another good game]
Okay?

>>719759917
Anon, that's obviously bait.
>Wukong and Wuchang above fucking Ninja Gaiden Black and Nioh 2
I don't think even the biggest defenders of rollslop would place the chink games above NGB and Nioh 2. Nioh 2 is usually considered the best non-FS soulslike. NGB is just the greatest action game ever made.

>>719760820
Nah. The enemy density isn't high eneough or difficult enough to make general progression a problem. It's just a couple stand-out bullshit enemies and bosses (senior maid, honglan 1, general) and some general fuckery (honglan 2 and that one red eye daggit having unseeable martials [unpartyable] mixed in with super delayed weapon attacks making entire mechanics pointless for their fights) in an otherwise pretty easy (and bad) Soulslike.

It has all the frustrating obfuscation of Dark Souls 2 and Elden Ring but not the general difficulty

>>719739096 (OP)
Censored, i wish i could refund it

I love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe

>>719761929
>they took out his KAKA KHKHKOKO?? line in the patch
hah, chinese is like welsh it's so abrasive to the ears sometimes

>>719758792
feces tier taste from a tranimefag? how surprising

>>719748930
she needs to wu on my chang

>>719761005
IDK about Nioh 2 since I haven't played it but I know I'd put the Wu games over Nioh 1

So what was the base ending supposed to mean? Was Chinchong inside an illusion with her sister or did she alter the past and bring her back to life?

>>719763324
IDK. The other 3 endings are easy enough to understand but the Dream ending isn't super clear.

>>719758792
>ranking character action games alongside soulslikes
retard

>>719746697
The same people that think this looks good will say MG Delta looks like shit.

>>719760404
What's wrong with the story and bosses? What do you mean by they just give up with them?

>>719763324
she still has the feathering in that ending, she didnt escape the cycle