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Did you ever notice how all controversy surrounding violence in media completely evaporated at some point? Games like GTA were called "murder simulators" regularly because you could press X to hit someone with a bat--nowadays we have VR games that let you physically dismember enemies with your own two hands, and there's zero controversy.

Don't get me wrong, violence can still be controversial, but only if it's directed at a protected group. A scene where a woman or minority is viciously killed can still cause controversy, but violence in-and-of itself isn't controversial in the slightest. You will literally court more controversy by having an attractive female lead in revealing clothing than you will for putting gallons of blood and gore in your game.

Just look at Mortal Kombat. It's comical to see how they've de-sexualized the characters so as not to offend anyone while also making the fatalities a hundred times more gruesome than they ever were before.

I don't want to go back to the "video games cause violence" age, but I can't help but feel that it's not a good sign for our culture if there is no reaction at all to violence anymore.

jtjj

>>719803452 (OP)
>VR games that let you physically dismember enemies
americans are too violent

Goyim need to know that it’s okay for them to be murdered, but that they should never procreate. Violence = good, sexiness = bad.

>>719803452 (OP)
Not only that, controversy around tech fixation in general has vanished. Parents used to be worried about the impact television was having on their children's development and there were big pushes for educational content, now there is no stigma to kids being raised entirely by ipads and tiktok. Kids today even openly recognize the deleterious effects themselves and call their own entertainment habits brainrot, but the social pressures around it are nonexistent.

>>719803971
VERY TRUE JEW SAAR
NOW GIVE US HAVE YOUR WIFE JEW SAAR

>>719803452 (OP)
He was kind of right, you cant really say that he wasnt. Im not for censorship or anything, but when's somethings for adults, its for adults. Now, parents just buy them a game, loot boxes, and a new character to make them shut the fuck up. Theres no thought like "should my kids be playing this??", "will this game instill views and opinions that arent true to life?", and "omg my kid may see a scantily clad ninja woman". Theres still this fear of sex and violence, when its in everything but we wont openly say we like it.

>>719803452 (OP)
>Mortal Kombat
For me, it's FRIENDSHIPS and BABALITIES

Because the puriticanl right which boiled down to retarded christian moms and conservatives were brainwashed into believing video games are demonic and turn children into the devil if they dare punch someone up in streets of rage 2, mortal kombat etc. Remember the REAL outrage started with the hidden sex scene in GTA, the hot coffee incident.

Either way the puriticanal right lost their fervor over video games after about 9/11 and became fixated on the war on terror and all that.

So what happens 10 years later? Modern feminist thought over muh male gaze, toxic masculinity and more feminists getting involved in game development. Which leads to the puritanical left who instead would like to censor games, enforce pronoun nonsense, and remove any and all sex appeal designated towards men because errr…MEN NEED TO BE BETTER!!
It’s the same fucking shit just with a different flavor. Miserable niggers want to ruin the fun for others because they cant conceive why someone could enjoy something they dont like. Power freaks want to micromanage everything not to “save da children”, but rather just to have control over people like some fatfuck janny. And now the puritanical right are back at it again trying to censor fucking anime of all things. I hate all of these normie niggers so god damned much. Just fuck off and stick to your shitty TV shows.

>>719805447
Shit, I cant disagree.

>>719803452 (OP)
>Did you ever notice how all controversy surrounding violence in media completely evaporated at some point?
No? Do you live in a bubble?

>>719805541
Didn't the developer find out people were bitching about it because it doesnt look like a kids game and flat out told them that it was made for adults? Just because its a video game doesnt mean its for kids, so yeah, the whole shit that happened in the early 00s with gta and evwrything did come back around.

jack thompson got disbarred and it took the wind out of his sails

>>719805447
>Either way the puriticanal right lost their fervor over video games after about 9/11
M8 all of Thompson's bullshit was after 9/11

Also, the push from the left is organically embraced by devs rather than being imposed by law, there's your difference. It's a dialogue, not tyranny. You just don't like it because you're losing, and, hypocrite that you are, you want to prevent people from expressing opinions you disagree with in the name of "anti-censorship".

>>719805447
>right
>conservatives

This wasn't tied to a specific party, it was a boomer thing. Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman were two of the most outspoken politicians against violence in games and they were both democrats.

>>719803971
Oh please. Jew or gentile, we're all just meat for Lord Moloch to devour. The only reward His servants get is being eaten last.

>>719805787
MAKE EVERYTHING LAME AND GAY

>>719805842
Make your own game if you don't like it.

>>719803452 (OP)
We should just let a different country make Mortal Kombat.

>>719803452 (OP)
No, in fact many school shootings are pretty much still regularly blamed on violent video games. The United States just had this. The only time it isn't is when it can be scapegoated into identities that the side reporting on it doesn't like.
If you think this conversation just evaporated, you're not really paying attention to it at all.

>>719803452 (OP)
>Did you ever notice how all controversy surrounding violence in media completely evaporated at some point?
No, It still happens, tabloid journalists just stopped covering it because it doesn't catch the attention it used to, culture war bullshit replaced it.

>>719806004
I never hear about violent video games. It's either blamed on right-wing extremism or, if the shooter isn't a white male, it's blamed on guns.

>>719805812
Conservative Democrats
It's pretty telling that Republicans will vote for any old fascist paedophile with an (R) next to his name over Reagan with a vagina and a (D) next to her name

>>719805920
Im speaking in general, media pver the last 10-15 years has been fuckinf terrible. How many more fucking Marvel movies do we need?

>>719805829
DO NOT REDEEM GOYIM SAAR
DO NOT REDEEM
KHAZAR MILKERS ARE FOR US VISHNU ARYANS

>>719806118
Trump was known for being a shit human before his presidency. The thing that gets me, its like people just forgot.

>>719806410
They didn't forget, they just don't have any moral principles and stand for nothing

>>719806556
The most infamous story I remember about him was him walking into an interview with the rolling stones and Mick Jagger pulled a knife on him to gwt him to fuck off.

>>719804834
>>719806380
What do Indians have to do with any of this?

>>719806659
This makes me violently irrationally angry

>>719806118
>>719806410
>>719806556
>>719806675
>thread has nothing to do with Trump
>becomes a TDS hugbox

Every time with this board.

>>719806842
Cry about it

>>719806793
GIVE US YOUR KHAZAR WIFE MILKERS BLOODY BENCHOD KIKE

>>719806806
>irrationally

>>719803452 (OP)
Hilary realized she wasn't going to get more voters from it and dropped it. Also, supposedly, Hilary wanted to propose a bill that even Jack thought was unconstitutional. It doesnt help that Jack got disbarred.

>>719806943
The other pic, retard.

>>719806115
Yeah but in the case of right-wing extremism they usually lump in violent video games as a pathway to that, either by the glorification of violence or the social aspect of it where you meet people that radicalize you.
>>719806410
It's cool though because he's totally not like every other politician and definitely has the average American's best interests in mind, that's why he's cleaning up our cities (but not in the spots that actually need it).

>>719805787
>you want to prevent people from expressing opinions you disagree with in the name of "anti-censorship"
Fuck yeah I want to prevent you from expressing your mentally-ill, repulsive, subhuman "opinions", negro. They're awful, and for no-one that's an actual human-being. Stop pretending every belief and opinion is some shit that should be tolerated and accepted.

>>719807005
Having troops walk around like nazi fucking Germany isn't cleaning up anything.

>>719806992
I was agreeing with you, retard. I'm saying that your anger is rational.

Are the Trump posts just one guy talking to himself or are there two of them?

>>719807050
Leftists are real, and then you get the terminally online X/Twitter leftists who freak the fuck out about stupid shit and have no effect on reality anymore. I had heard anything about X/Twitter in a good while

>>719803452 (OP)
Vidya is so mainstream and accepted that no one gives a fuck anymore.

>>719803452 (OP)
>Did you ever notice how all controversy surrounding violence in media completely evaporated at some point?
You are still blaming video games for IRL tranny shooting shit senile faggot. Heed your other fellow boomers for once and say goodbye to this tranny healthcare.

>>719807249
Always has been, there was controversy with violent and adult oriented games even in the 80s.

This is now a Jade thread.

>>719807321
>free healthcare in america
??

>>719807147
Oh, my bad.

>>719807321
That article literally isn't even about violence, dipshit. It's about mooching off of the government and lazing around all day.

>>719807417
We wish

>>719805787
Decent bait

>we need more women of color in video games!
>w-wait! not like that!!!

>>719803452 (OP)
Vidya became corporatized, instead of competing with the establishment it's now part of it so there's no need for the establishment to act against it.

>>719807653
Why cant we have this anymore? Nit even talking about the softcore porn, who are we trying not to offend? Where are these people, do they really exist?

>>719807050
There we go, conservatives and reactionaries are ALWAYS the side of censorship

>>719803971
Retard. This is why your pathetic country has never won a war.

>>719807321
You voted for this, /v/

>>719805541
Gookbro, you're game isn't that relevant.

>>719803452 (OP)
We hated him, but he was a far lesser evil than Anita and the leftist censorship brigade that popped up in the 2010's.

>>719803452 (OP)
The conversation shifted from “games are violent” to “gamers hurt minorities.” The game companies shifted media blame from themselves to the customer. It’s classic tactic in American capitalism. You saw it with fast food (stop eating it fatty) to oil companies (you driving your car is why the world sucks.)

>>719807771
>who are we trying not to offend?
Women, unironically. It's not because it makes them feel objectified either, it's because men satisfying themselves with 2d girls lowers their sexual value and that makes them go crazy because the primal cavewoman hindbrain is telling them that less male attention = death. They want your attention regardless of the fact they'd never give you a chance.

>>719807904
Normal humans are okay with censoring bad, terrible things, yeah. You guys love to talk about censorship, but not about what's being censored. That's because you know absolutely no-one that's normal would give a fuck, nor would be against said censorship.

>>719807978
American here, why should I feel good that “we” won a war? Winning WW2 only seemed to make everyone brown, and winning Iraq only gave the military-industrial complex a gorillion dollars.

>>719807321
Not really applicable to this thread's topic but I find it so funny that they need to make up scenarios in their head as to who is taking advantage of medical coverage in this country (which already is a scenario that can be avoided if you just pay people better to make them want to work) because lobbyists demanded it over actually giving America something that many other first-world countries just outright have.

>>719806920
jeets love israel because they think jews vs palestinians is similar to jeets vs pakis
would love a 4-way war between all those groups that removes them from the planet

>>719806842
please understand they are very mad after gaslighting themselves into thinking he died because he went half a week without tweeting.
Please anon they spent 20 million figuring out they could try posting on boards other than /pol/

>>719808385
The article is way gayer than it reads, the congressman is generating sound bites for single mothers (and everyone who supports them) by mentioning “single mothers” like five times when discussing who’s going to lose their benefits. It’s nothing more than using young men as a whipping stick.

>>719808138
Anita had a point about how women and minority gamers are treated like a shit.

>>719808138
>>719808737
You should self marry NOW

>>719808737
>like a shit
Dumb ESL faggot

>>719808737
Yeah and now games are utterly directionless and offend nobody besides whipping white guys once in a while.

>>719803452 (OP)
>how all controversy surrounding violence in media completely evaporated at some point?
Liberals were never against censorship though. Much like those who worked at Rockstar they were all opportunistic and rallied behind a fake cause mainly because it involved standing up to a conservative rather than whether it was about whether video game violence equates to real life violence enough to try and take it down from Steam's greenlight program. Something like Hatred actually ticked them off. CD projekt Red recently demonstrated themselves to be complete hypocrites on a similar issue by saying that Mastercard and Visa were engaging in acts of censorship, despite the fact that they rejected this game being sold on their store.

>>719809129
I'm not sure why my sentence fucked up there. Browser must have done something so it's out of order.

What i was trying to say is that liberals have always been pro censorship. The only thing they disagreed with Jack Thompson on aside from being a conservative is that video game violence causes violence. Hatred was the clear cut example of them getting actually mad.

We got the fuck over it, amazing what can be done when you simply ignore cuckservatives.

>>719809562
>We
Who are you with faggot?

>>719807740
The non-corporate indies haven't done anything to pull weight whatsoever. They've been spending the past 20 years playing out their frivolous tumblr fantasies.

>>719810186
You lost, censortroon. Violent games simply exist. Cope, seethe, and dilate.

My theory is simply that video games are so profitable these days that even the moral guardians want in on it.

>>719808237
But are women truly offended? People usually like attractive characters, people are actually, unironically comparing themselves to them and getting offended? It doesnt make any sense because its not real, and I feel that a lot of it is to fit into current times. But current times is so fucking milquetoast and boring, everything looks the same, everything has to be about controversy, everything someone doesnt like gets them deemed a racist or incel.

>>719810834
>video games are so profitable
Replace profitable with culturally influential and you've hit the nail on the head.

>>719808885
Yeah, thats sad and pathetic. Weve talked about it a million times.
>>719808902
A shit.
>>719808945
Not really, dont act like a fucking video game os being prejudiced against you. But yeah, modern games are total slop now, can I just win the race, save the princess, or take down an evil organization with put being berated by heavy handed political correctness and "do better" speeches with some other modern culture brain rot shoved in there. When leftists are pissed about this shit, the people they are still trying to get enmasse into gaming, you know youre fucking up

>man this new marvel movie looks like a steaming pile of shit
RACIST, INCEL, MYSOGONIST, XENOPHOBE. And its like, no one is mad or offended, it just like like complete trash like l everything else. You may say because im getting older, no, shit sucks now. Im even the kind of person they want to market to, but when im even turned off at times its like they dont get the picture. Always like "who asked for this shit? And who's fucking mad now?"

>man this new marvel movie looks like a steaming pile of shit
RACIST, INCEL, MYSOGONIST, XENOPHOBE. And its like, no one is mad or offended, its just complete trash like everything else. You may say because im getting older, no, shit sucks now. Im even the kind of person they want to market to, but when im even turned off at times its like they dont get the picture. Always like "who asked for this shit? And "who's fucking mad now?"

>>719803452 (OP)
Jackass was legitimately the only guy who cared.

>>719810921
Like I said, it isn't offense, it's competition. That 2D women aren't real doesn't enter into their mental arithmetic at all, the only thing going on in there is 'men look at other women bad', they optimise for desirability in all cases, even in such cases as their idea of "desirability" being inaccurate to the reality. There are only two responses, increase their personal desirability or remove the competition, the latter is the more expedient option because scarcity is a better value metric than quality as a path of least resistance.

>>719810624
Who's "we"?

>>719803452 (OP)
Because nobody takes this shit seriously barring gigapurists. Parents at this point are the ones who grew up with the PS1/PS2 generations.
No campaign trying to pin a shooting because the kid played Fortnite is going to be successful. Also really, Americans don't really care that much about violence, they just became more prudish. The most you're getting is blue line baiting by saying killing cops in GTA6 makes me feel icky.

>>719810834
That's a pretty contrarian theory.

>>719811854
I think its how men and women are different, but no one likes ugly. Shit, even the avarage person isn't even that ugly. So we get characters covered up, censored, bastardized, and made into things they weren't. But I never see it, and let me throw a name out there, Ciri. Do you see women mad at Ciri because shes a fucking dime peice in game? Have I heard women talk down about the character and be insulted, offended, and insecure? Not really, and even as a leftist, im starting to agree that leftists and social media fucked gaming so bad.

>>719812051
>Americans don't really care that much about violence
Wrong. Even Mortal Kombat fans hate how violent the fatalities have gotten. People don't actually want their games all covered in entrails and menstrual blood like Bloodborne and all the other tryhard poser garbage that tries to coast on ultraviolence these days.

>>719803452 (OP)
>decentralizes, influential thing exists
>globohomo incessantly cries about it, until its normiecattle labor to give it full control over it
>regulated, centralized and monopolized things kicks every form of degeneracy into overdrive
Oy vey.

>>719803452 (OP)
Videogames cause sexism.

>>719803452 (OP)
Probably cause the people complaining are dead or old as fuck now

>>719812414
Nobody wants to play fucking Hatred but a tiktok of someone getting run over in GTA6 will make bank. Does that make sense? Also that's just an aesthetics opinion, MK is not raising any amount of relevant moral panic today compared to the past

>>719812247
Making the fake video game woman ugly is a form of sabotage, removing the competition by making the competition unpalatable. That's actually standard fare for a disturbing amount of women, even to those they would consider friends.

Consider Ciri from the announcement trailer, they made her look substantially older and added a touch of masculine physiological and behavioural traits. We know for a fact that a plurality of men are deeply attracted to neotenous traits whether they know it or not, such as youth, naivete, lack of blemishes, symmetry, etc. Many female characters currently seem to be designed away from these traits pretty explicitly, making them less conventionally attractive to men.

People pulling this shit is actually pretty normal as far as history is concerned, as it happens every generation in one way or another, it's just that the internet and social media have vastly increased their reach and influence. Telecomms has had a disastrous effect on us all, it's bad enough that I think it far outweighs the benefits at this point.

>>719808737
>a medium built from the ground up by nerdy white and Asian guys was putting hot women in their games, and this was a hate crime
How does it feel knowing that gamergate did more than any other single event in the past 20 years to radicalize young guys to the far right?

>>719812414
>t. pussy

>>719811270
All phoneposters must hang.

>>719803452 (OP)
>don't want to go back to the "video games cause violence" age, but I can't help but feel that it's not a good sign for our culture if there is no reaction at all to violence anymore.
Jesus you fucking nitwits
You guys will slurp alt right cock if it means owning the libs
You fags are voting for the same fucking nazis who will literally let in millions of indians into your country, just so you can own the trannies
Stfu and kill yourself, fuck jack Thompson, fuck steve bannon, these are the same faggots who want GAMERS castrated, your voting and supporting people who want you dead you incels

>>719814195
There haven't been any nazis for 80 years

games have actually gotten less violent.
we went from Unreal Tournament to Fortnite

The first place to curb violence is black people but you're not ready for that conversation.

>>719814195
>You fags are voting for the same fucking nazis who will literally let in millions of indians into your country, just so you can own the trannies
Yeah, I will take the people who want infinity Indian H1B hires over the people who want to let in infinity Somalians to rape kids.

>>719803452 (OP)
It's the same thing that happened with rock music, movies and shows, and basically everything fun that religious retards want to ban: it became so universally popular that it's unfeasible to restrict it. There's no morality when it comes to the free market.

>>719808094
>Gookbro, you're game
hehe

>>719814734
>There's no morality when it comes to the free market.
How do people still believe this shit when we live in an era where every single AAA video game now has women who are uglier than an average woman you can see walking down a city street?

>>719814934
Cry to uncle Trump to ban ugly women in video games, incel.

>>719815040
The Fable 4 bitch is just what the free market always wanted.

>>719815137
That game isn't even going to come out.

>>719803452 (OP)
Had this thought while replaying Cyberpunk. It has nudity, sex, dismemberment, gore, body horror, copious amounts of blood, human trafficking, pedophilia, torture, ect and nobody gave a single flying fuck. GTA has nothing on a game that lets me punch someone into ground synth beef. GTA wasn't even the first of its kind lmao.

>>719814713
Hi Rahesh

>>719808094
It sold more copies than Hollow Knight, that means Stellar Blade 2 will sell more than Silksong

>>719808094
>you're game
SAAR

>>719808094
>complain about something for 2 years
>claim it's not relevant when it succeeds anyway

Leftists be like.

>>719815228
What the fuck are they even doing anyway?

>>719808359
Technically no one won the Iraq war because it wasn't even a war. It was a genocide Americans enacted to get their oil.

>>719814195
>Normal humans want subhuman losers who contribute nothing dead
No duh, idiot. Also, it's hilarious when you faggots try to do the "uuuh we are BASED racists!" card to appeal to the Right. Especially since you guys are currently losing your shit, trying everything you can to stop said Brown people from being deported from judges to everything else. Using muh Indians is even more funny, since you guys are mad people didn't vote for the Indian woman to be President. Can't even be coherent in your fake narratives.

>>719817098
Where is my oil?

>>719817098
Too bad they didn't finish the job on all Arabs.

>>719817098
Did you know that every UAE citizen gets a portion of the profits from their oil industry? I thought that was interesting.

>>719806115
For a while after Columbine, it was all about violent vidya. Jack Thompson even tried to tie Counter Strike to the Virginia Tech shooting, claiming the shooter used that to train for the shooting. Really it all boils down to passing blame onto an ideal or inanimate object because it's a lot easier than the parents admitting their kid was a psychopath, parents of the victims admitting their kids bullied the shooter into doing the unthinkable, or faculty admitting that they ignored warning signs that the kid was fucked up.