Thread 719820190

>diagonal poking
i cant do it. Im not as young as i was for the first hollow knight. I should quit gaming. this is such a depressing feeling

>>719820190 (OP)
Just practice on the dummies near the theif. I suck too still

>>719820335
>Just practice
>implying i have the required dexterity to eventually succeed
i don't. it's over.

>>719820190 (OP)
i just dislike it to be honest. it’s awkward and a bad attack. Not being able to hit enemies directly below you is a straight up downgrade from the original game.

>>719821464
I consider it an updrage because it asks more of me, which is fun

Her base moveset feels kind of bad. Every enemy leaps towards you and it's impossible to get away avoid anything. There's a big red dude that I can't get past because every attack jumps and leaps forward.

>>719821464
>it’s awkward
Yeah, it is. But that is what will make mastering the airdrift-skill demand of it all the sweeter

>>719821607
The devs gave you a get out of jail free card for that fight. Think about what it is

>>719821735
If there's a powerup that you need, my ass does not have it

The diagonal poking is amazing, i got it in an instant
As soon as you get the sprint, which incurs the dash attack, the combat just becomes a 99999/10

>>719820190 (OP)
It feels like change for the sake of change to me. The game is very similar to the first one, and I get the need to make it "feel distinct", but doing so at the cost of gameplay just isn't the way to go

>>719822821
People were complaining that pogoing trivialized a lot of the first game. This is the answer to those people.

Why is the max framerate cap at 120?

>>719822821
Hornet is a new character, she should play differently.

>>719820190 (OP)
Gitgud.exe

>>719820190 (OP)
>zoomers getting obliterated by the Castlevania divekick

>>719823560
Human eye, etc.

>>719820190 (OP)
I'm 91 year old and have no problems playing this. You're just bad.

>>719822525
>dash attack sends you up
>can immediately pogo back down
i came. too bad the other moveset i found isn't nearly as fun. not sure why they even bothered with multiple movesets

>>719823560
Who cares, do you really need 3ms more of frame data in a game like this?

>>719822313
You can do with the base moveset but you do need to time it right.

>>719824130
you're not 91 years old

>>719824638
No he was born back in 91 and now he's loosing it but he kicks arse at games still

>>719824507
nta but i just jumped to dodge his normal attack and walked under his jump attack if you mean the guy guarding that area transition. was there some trick i missed?

can you kill this guy
i have been hitting him for ages

>>719826282
nvm he just died

>>719826282
i tried but got hit while under the little ledge at the end. i wouldn't bother
>>719826556
what'd you get?

>>719820190 (OP)
The problem I'm finding with the dive kick is that it takes a lot to get used to how far it actually goes. HK's downward stab is easy, you hold down and you keep going down until you hit something. Unless I'm doing something wrong, Hornet dives but then just stops in midair and it kind of feels like shit.

>>719823560
It's based on your monitor, mine says 179.

>try to longjump
>dashes off the edge and eats my jump input

Never even beat HK but all the bosses so far have been easy mode except the guy blocking access to the ant area
Lace was a joke

>>719826608
using the sprint/dash makes it easier
not worth it unless there's a quest later or something

>>719820190 (OP)
I know that feel. I am sure that you are supposed to be able to make this fucking jump because I keep accidentally succeeding at it on occasion but I have no idea of how to do it consistently, and I am pretty sure that it is just that my reaction times are too slow.

>>719821027
Did you have a fucking stroke? Get stuck in a hyperbolic time chamber? Cmon faggot, just press the damn buttons

>>719820190 (OP)
I bet the challenges will be turbo autistic because of this shit

>>719827149
Lmao I actually fucking made it right after making that post

>>719827292
FUCK THIS NIGGER GAME THAT GOD DAMN CHAIR TRAP KILLED ME

Am I the only one here who got a new crest? It lets you change your moveset to basically the first game's but slightly faster. Makes hunter's march easier.

>>719820190 (OP)
I'm 41 and do it consistently. Try not being bad you mega faggot.

>>719820190 (OP)
I'm 18 and it's easy as shit

>no exp from enemies
>enemies are fucking everywhere
>if you kill them they drop useless shit out of reach
fucking shit game

*fixes your game*
Hunter's March seems optional anyway. Just go back once you have the down attack that isn't retarded

>>719827104
Hollow Knight base game is piss easy, the hardest part is arguably Path of Pain but even its difficulty is exaggerated. The only real hard part of HK are the last Pantheons which are a massive grind (if you fuck up you have to fight 40+ minutes of braindead bosses to get to the actual hard buffed up bosses)

>>719824294
just you wait until you get the one with the saw

>>719827621
this sucks ass dude. it's so SLOW

when u get to a certain part of the game the diagonal poke switches out to an almost regular downward poke like in HK

>>719820190 (OP)
Anyone else has a problem with Steam, Dualshock 4 and the game still showing Xbox inputs? I can't make it work for some reason...

>>719820190 (OP)
I genuinely wish I refunded the game by the 2 hour mark because of this. Now I paid 20$ for a game I don't like as much as Hollow Knight.

>>719821607
the guy with the axe-type-thing? go under and behind him when he jumps

>>719827425
What are did you find it in?

>>719823560
It's not, mine goes to 179 so the max is just whatever your monitor's max is

>>719820190 (OP)
It's clear they thought it would lead to faster paced platforming, which it kind of has but the hit box needs to be larger.

My only gripe so far is the same gripe I had with the first game. The bosses are too fucking long.

>>719830426
>which it kind of has but the hit box needs to be larger.
Yeah I don't actually mind the downwards poke but the hitbox sucks or needs to be more active. I've watched myself dive towards an enemy and get hit while still being in the dive animation.

>run off screen to heal
>moorwing just comes in like a linebacker and tackles tf out of u
great

>>719821027
You think you do but you're just doubting yourself and haven't played vidya that requires quick input for awhile, you don't permanently lose dexterity unless you crippled yourself or are 70+

I am fucking GRIPPING my controller on the diagonal poke. The Hunter's March bug cage fight Shakra shows up in had me die like 4 times and i had to run all the way back.
My hands are sweating, arms spaghetti.
Am I just too old or is this considerably more difficult than the first game?

>>719820190 (OP)
playing hollow knight for the first time, i must have gone the wrong way because i have to go downslash these spikes which constantly fuck my health, just so i can fight a boss behind it with 0 healing, not that it matters because the boss doesn't seem to have many openings that would allow healing

i feel like i'm missing a block or something because i can't hit projectiles and my limited health pool forces me to play in an extremely safe and boring manner, only to die and have to go through the spike shit again and walk back to the boss with

>>719827621
where do i get the third mossberry

>>719830882
you could just go fight him later instead

>>719830959
probably, i'm just taking a break after attempting to brute force it with the way i found and i know i haven't explored every path

*lips on the mic*

git

gud

>>719820190 (OP)
Mind boggling this and the prior mid as fuck games were eated up by tards. Guess all you need are pretty visuals to please monkeys nowadays. Who cares about good combat, level design and game design, right.

>>719830941
go up elevator near moss village -> go right -> bird underneath

attacks that result into the spin are basically auto dodge
it is OP

>>719831080
I think i got that one. I'm missing one of the other one that isn't out in the open.

>>719831023
>eated
ated*

>>719829889
turn off steaminput

>>719830881
No the game is just hard AF. I died to that bug cage fight like 7 times.

>>719820190 (OP)
The problem is that the plunge is very short. You keep doing it too early. You should use it when you are almost touching the target.

>>719821607
Explore a bit more and you'll get a dash, then he becomes easy

>>719831286
I CAN'T SEE WHERE HORNY IS DURING THE FIGHT THERE'S TOO MANY THINGS MOVING FOR MY GERIATRIC BRAIN

>>719821607
Parry him you noob

dude i have no fucking red money shit
how the fuck are you supposed to buy all the shit from the npc's? i need like at least 800+ at this point without including starting area shop, is the game meant to be farmed? its piss easy so im just progressing normally
i did lace but

>>719821607
Yeah I didn't understant this guy, it's literally impossible to react to his jump.
Fight him inside the narrow little tunnel from which you came, he can't jump there. Then it's easy as fuck.

>>719821607
keep going in another direction and you will get the dash

>>719831260
When I turn of steam input, it stops working at all, as if I don't have a controller connected. Do I have to use DS4windows?

>>719831420
you'll find possessed bugs alter you kill and they drop red money

>>719831420
Game balance was terrible in HK, it's expected to be terrible in Silksong too.

Playing it now, about an hour in.

In the first area there was some spider thing surrounded in silk I found but I can't remember where it was, but now that I have the ability to destroy the silk where the fuck was that guy and how do I get back to him?

>>719831420
Just play the game, you're not meant to buy everything immediately. You'll most likely be flooded in money in the mid/late game areas just like in the first game

>>719831457
You can parry all his attacks and just wail on him

>>719820190 (OP)
You can unlock HK 1 moveset early on if you GIT GUD

>>719827149
I found a room full of those and made it through and then couldn't go back the same way because one of the flowers was too high coming back.

Am I missing something here? The enemies I need are few, they drop rarely and I need fucking TWENTY-FIVE? This is going to take 20 runbacks to the bench to refresh them

>>719831420
You're not supposed to buy everything immediatly. Also don't forget your not-souls in your inventory you can use.

>>719831609
Hit the spikes that they shoot out that then get stuck onto terrain

Why are there so many cheap booby traps fucking everywhere in this game

>>719831564
you can fucking parry boss attacks? or just that one boss? because every other boss just barrels through you and even basic overworld enemies ignore knockback/hitstun half the time

>>719831706
GOD DAMNIT
Thanks anon. They ask for spines, not fucking blades!

>>719831715
I HATE GIANT SWINGING SPIKE THINGS
I HATE SPIKES COMING OUT OF THE GROUND
I HATE LAVA ROCKS
I HATE BEAR TRAPS

>>719831609
After the round enemy fires the spikes, attack the spikes that are lodged in the ground. That part does suck a little since it's easy to assume it's a random drop.

WHERE ARE THE MOSSBeRRIES

>>719831715
>Why are there so many cheap booby traps fucking everywhere in this game
Because the devs think 'gotcha moments' contitutes as good level design.

>>719831773
Not all attacks, but generally weapon swings. I parried both his normal combo attack and the leap

>>719820190 (OP)
>>719827149
Hornet's needle points in the direction she'll go so you can use it to line up your jumps

Protip:
you can sprint if you hold down the dash button. horny also has a stab attack from out of dash.

The game is really harder than HK. I like it.

>>719831820
i also forgot about the fucking terraria boulders. fuck those too

>>719820190 (OP)
just force yourself to only use it, I did it for the first few screens and now it comes (somewhat) naturally

>>719832003
>you can sprint if you hold down the dash button
WHAT

>>719832003
Thanks bro, the game literally tells you
In fact it doesn't even tell you you can dash with it, it only tells you to hold for sprint

Why does this game have like zero tutorial
How are you supposed to know how to fucking pogostick

>>719832060
Can you even progress without sprinting? You need it to valt-jump over gaps. In fact I think you need it to leave the very room you get it in

>>719820190 (OP)
KEK I knew this would filter people. The new shrooms are smaller and introduced earlier too. I can't wait to read the seethe.

>>719832169
IT's assuming you played the first game

>>719831887
I would like it if the game had any indication of this, considering one room prior you have the spear guys with bell helmets whose basic weapon swings can't be parried and hit through your own attack.

>>719832169
Pretty sure it tells you when you first meet the red flowers thingy
But otherwise, I mean, don't you try to down attack in every single game immediatly in the first room?

>>719820190 (OP)
I'm 38 and the secret to the dive kick is to not initiate it until you're close to the enemy/thingie you need to bounce off, it's WAY easier to aim if there's less distance between you and the thing.

>>719832169
>Why does this game have like zero tutorial
Because it's made by literal amateurs. They have no professional game making experience or understanding. It's why the games are such a mess, imbalanced, frequently poorly designed and slapped together.

>>719820190 (OP)
There will be a mod in a week 100%.
Maybe less if someone heavily autistic gets furious about this pogo.

Guys. I'm eating shit to spikes more than i am to enemies. am I bad at vidya now? is this what it's like to get older..?

The HD Rumble and 120fps on Switch 2 screen is so good.

does hornet yells SHAW in this game

>>719832550
no
u even get her iconic nail throw ability very early and there is no shaw nor hegale

>>719832415
You don't need a mod, there's an item that gives you the moveset from the first game and it's been mentioned multiple times in this thread

I think Shakra's my nigga. He just showed up to fucking kill some bugs for me

>>719832648
how far is it because beast crest ain't it

so far this just feels like literal more hollow knight. there is zero new or exciting about it.

>>719832169
Your primary method of interacting with the game is your basic attack. Experiment.

>>719830881
the diagonal pogo is one of the designs of all time, especially on controller

Same as Shinobi, this game is best played on a keyboard. Pretty much all dpads suffer from the fact that you get garbage inputs: when pressing right you'll get right+up or right+down. The worse dpad you get the worse the issue gets. Not all 2d platformers suffer from this but games like Dustforce and the latest Shinobi do as they require you to be precise about inputting down or up when sticking to a wall. In this game platforming is tied to the down+attack move which makes this a bit on of an issue too. WSAD is simply superiour because you can be completely in control with each directional input.

>This game runs at 1080p 60fps on Switch 1
>devs of Ninja Gaiden Ragebound couldn't get it to run at 30fps on Switch and said it was too hard

I love that this game shows how lazy and half assed other devs are if anything.

>>719832747
Did people expect the new entry to shit out rainbows or something? Isn't it fair to expect more of the same from a small studio?

>>719833026
>Did people really expect there to be new gameplay mechanics and innovations after 7 years of development instead of it being a carbon copy of the last game with a new coat of paint?

Yes

>>719833026
>Isn't it fair to expect more of the same from a small studio?
Anon, the game took 7 years to come out.
We got Blasphemous 1&2, Ender Lilies and Ender Magnolia during that timespan in less time.

If anything it makes it more likely the Silksong devs tried new stuff, but it didn't work out, so they fell back to the same stuff as HK just to get the game out the door.

Silksong jigsaw,
https://jiggie.fun/0JEGY3

>>719832747
I could list ways it differs greatly from the previous but I'm not going to bother as you're either
1.) A tortanic tourist trying to sew discourse
2.) A retard who expected the sequel to be a racing game

>>719833026
More that with all the other metroidvanias that have come out Silksong isn't really that impressive.

does anyone have the picture of the empty vessel wearing a shirt that says "horny for Hornet?"

Give me fucking wiki with crest locations i want to speedrun to the normal pogo

>>719827381
lol

Holy shit, so far every single boss has been a fucking masterpiece

>1 hit kills when saving

Yeah this game is garbage

>>719834373
super meat boy did it in 2012

>>719832515
I want to play this game but I don't have a 120 fps monitor
what do

>>719830881
Fucking horseshit runback for a shmup tier fight where your ally is half yseful half distracting. Elden Ring must have stretched my anus too much to get really frustrated though.

I think it's really stupid that you can't parry/reflect the little fire-rocks.

>>719834748
....you can?

>>719830881
Was I supposed to go to Hunter's March first? I went to the Docks and then Far Fields instead

>>719821027
did you put your hands in a blender?

>>719834781
well why doesn't it fucking WORK
did they make the needle's hitbox fucking pixel perfect like some skullgirls bullshit?

>>719831554
Where you found the sexy bug mapmaker the first time round you go left into the mossy area and then up and to te right.

>>719821607
>Be me
>34
>Enjoy her diagonal attacks that let you bounce on enemies like a trampoline
I think when you guys say you're not young anymore you fail to mention that you were never good at games to begin with.

>>719820190 (OP)
Diagonal thrust is objectively more difficult than the regular pogo but in combination with the animation it feels ten times more satisfying to pull off.

why are all the enemies so disgusting
>the hell-flyer who stays just out of range this time is replaced by a green retard that makes a silly face and vomits at you
what the fuck is going on in australia

>>719834891
You're either absolutely fucking retarded and have the reaction times of a fire hydrant or your game is bugged lmfao

>>719834891
I can agree for the diagonal dive, but reflecting things is piss easy, exact same as HK

Anyone else thinking about refunding and pirating after hearing about instakill benches

>>719821027
Games are not kind to us old gamers.... At 20+ the signs of tear already start to show, and at 30+ we should already have sold our pc and taken senile hobbies like gardening or drinking alcohol.

>>719835153
I have a coworker that is 43 years old and can do 1 frame links and react to 4 frame attacks in fighting games. Blaming age is just bad players coping.

>>719820190 (OP)
Just wait until you meet the faggot boss in the Chapel of the Beast
I missed it the first time around and did the Chapel of the Reaper first so I thought I'd come and do this and the boss just 2 shots you, has too much health and summons flying enemies that corner you and make it impossible to dodge the boss
This game had been such a treat until this stupid fight, it just feels cheap

So is Moor winged advised to be tackled after an extra heart or needle upgrade cos I feel like the fact he kills me in two hits is pulling the piss

>come from shinobi which plays super tight
>silksong feels janky
Was the game released too early or something

am i not supposed to pogo to this i'm always short of hitting it

>>719834379
KWAB try looking in the left area

>>719834782
It's for gamers

best first item to buy with red rosaries?

>>719830848
>or are 70+
heh now that would be weird if i werethat old haha

>>719835613
It's doable, pogo from the leftmost area of the first bulb

Progo pogo tip, wait to do the diagonal pogo until you are directly above and just about to hit the thing you wanna pogo. Way easier than trying to line up the diagonal from a distance.

>>719835613
I usually play these on the d-pad, but it seems to work better on the analog for this particular thing. I think they kinda went overboard with this shit way too early into the game.

>>719820190 (OP)
Don't worry, the controls are bad. I guess they were too busy making their 8 hour long game to playtest diagonals and the pogo.

7 years they were developing this game for and they really thought yeah let's make the end of the first hour nothing but pogo jumping with spikes xDDDD

>>719835593
Yeah, it needed AT LEAST 7 more years.

>>719835905
map and pen

How's the game on mouse and keyboard?
I haven't used my controller in years and have no idea where it is.

Lace is a fun fight but just like Hornet she's incredibly easy.

>>719836123
Pogoing is literally impossible with K+M

>>719836123
Unplayable

>>719832515
I thought Switch 2 didn't have HD rumble

Why does resting at some benches take my shards?

>idle for a sec
>the area rumbles
W-what's going on?

>>719836173
>>719836184
Well now that's some gay shit.

>>719836238
Do you have the needle throwing item? those cost mats to refill.

Don't even give a fuck if you guys get spoiled or not but watch out for the save bench that kills you because the devs wanted this to be I Want To Be The Guy or some shit

>>719836253
I SEE YOU

>>719820190 (OP)
you all either have some kind of brain damage from being terminally online for too long or you all have dogshit d-pads. could be both.

Whoever designed Hunter's March and thought it was a good idea should get 3 different cancers at the same time

>>719836293
>>719836123
>playing video games with a spreadsheet terminal
maybe stop being a retard

>>719836301
Ohh yeah alright that makes sense.

>>719836308
Good lord get a grip dude. Go back to that bench and check the area left of it

>>719835301
maybe he's just autistic

>>719836380
>playing video games
Are you a young child or a woman?

why am i in the third area and things are already hitting me for two hearts

>>719836401
>just backtrack bro! just waste more time going out of your way because of a shitty cheap death bro!

Why is the warrior lady with the map’s singing voice so fucking awful compared to Cornifer’s humming?

>>719836516
Because you didn't avoid them

>>719831023
>nowadays
FF7 is almost 30 years old

>>719836540
All the voices are bad. Some of them sound like men pretending to be women.

I beat moss mother, bell beast and the brat first try but died like 5 times to the miniboss guy with the axe and just died for the 10th time in the hunter's march arena. I feel like fighting those mobs normally would be easier than having your stupid """ally""" assist you by making the whole fight a completely unreadable mess. I'm liking the game a lot so far but this part is pretty unenjoyable.

>>719836539
It's the only bench in hunter's march. Be grateful you got one lol

WHERE DO I UNLOCK THE DOWNWARDS STRIKE

>>719836652
that's me and what you said is very rude to me as a person

>>719836123
Works for me.
I got used to the controls pretty quick.

>at boss fight
>hear stock panther sound effect that doom used 30 years ago

bruh ain't no way...

>>719836787
I FUCKING THOUGHT THAT SOUNDED FAMILIAR

>>719827292
go through the lower path and you'll get the upgrade for the air currents

Man, this guy was a piece of work, but I beat him eventually. Feels like I found this area too early.

>>719836881
SHAW

>>719836516
its legit retarded
in the first game there were like 3 enemies doing 2 masks per attack outside of endgame bosses
now almost any fucking ant does that making health upgrades worthless

The only thing I hate about this game is the "take damage for touching enemy" thing. Otherwise it's peak.

>>719832231
you can dash mid-air and that solves it

Lotta shitters coming out of the woodwork

they really turned up the difficulty in this one huh. People are going to get filtered and NOT be happy

>>719836951
>making health upgrades worthless
I already had that problem with the first game and they doubled down on it. Fuck me

Guys give it to me straight this game’s already losing me do I at least return to Hallownest?

>>719837113
please don't tell him, I don't want to be spoiled

>If you die you lose all your shit and you have to go back and get it

This is so archaic at this point. Fuck this souls garbage wasting my time. You might as well bring back 1 up lives and game overs next.

>>719837113
Wait until you find the dash ability, it completely turned the game around for me.

>>719837169
It's not that bad. The worst offender is games having money that despawns when it is 5 seconds on the ground. Why? Because it is """retro""" yet they don't realize that games used to do this shit because of performance limitations and would have opted for money not despawning had old hardware allowed it.

>>719837169
Just grab your dropped beads and go back before the cage drops

>>719836787
To me its the tomb raider 1 jaguar

>>719837070
they doubled down on everything that made the first game bad
7 years for this

>the heal is worse/harder to use
>the jump attack is worse/harder to use
>every basic enemy has less hitstun/knockback from damage
>the very first bosses have 2 damage hits, probably means later bosses do 3+ damage
>gay bouncy things are back right away and are required to do for runbacks
a worrying couple of first hours feels like a women was involved in the design

>>719834373
favorite boss of the game so far im about done for the night but im at the second city now. Im starting to get the impression they might have downplayed the games size a bit. The achievements have one for getting all the maps and apparently theres like 10 more areas than hollow knight
>>719836123
Keyboard works as well as the first game the other anons are just scrubs

>>719820190 (OP)
I like it, looks cooler, but also I'm too good at videogames

>>719837394
>a women
BROWNOID SPOTTED

>>719836308
It was a good bit. I lol'd coming across that one despite dying and having to do another run back

>>719820190 (OP)
Iktf
I died to moss mother 3 times. it's so over

I used to think /v/ was being a cunt by saying "filtered" and "gitgud". Now I understand. This game is excellent, but most of you niggers are going to break your controllers in Hunter's March, then you'll say the game's bad, because you suck at it. Apply yourselves.

>>719837394
So..... women are better at videogames than you?

>>719836881
Same when i beat him only 1% of players had the achievement for the reward so im pretty certain we both did something earlier than intended. Feels balanced though

>>719837457
>Keyboard works as well as the first game
This. Controls are fine you just need to rebind because the default options are terrible.

MAYBE. You listening Redditors? MAYBE you could POGO better if you played a single CASTLEVANIA game with a DIVEKICK!! But NO, you had your THUMB UP YOUR ASS for 7 YEARS instead of PLAYING YOUR SECOND METROIDVANIA!!! You get what you deserve, RETARDS!!

>>719837530
to be fair, I'm playing hollow knight for a fun experience, not white palace..

rotund

>>719837530
Such a pleasure to see all the secondaries break their teeth on Silksong. Should have played the first game to get some difficulty curve instead of jumping on the bandwagon

Whoa this boss is HUGE

>>719837648
sorry anon I like playing Charlotte too much to use a filthy k*cker.

>>719837394
The basic enemies just blazing through your attacks like nothing is what bothers me. I get it, you're supposed to be dancing around enemies all the time, but the most basic of mooks having super armor confuses and annoys me especially when even the early game is already full of spikes and lava that instakill enemies but you have to just sort of hope they fall into them. At least you can still cheese motherfuckers by jumping under a floor and hitting them through it from below.

>>719837660
I really hate this anymation. Feels so out of place. Looks like Peach. Weird when the flying in wind animation looks so cool

Not used to playing a voiced protag for these types of games, it's a nice change of pace from the usual blank (or hollow) slates

>>719837786
Lava only deals 2 HP of damage, spikes deal 1
You can also buy the charm to reduce lava damage to 1, recommended for the area boss

>>719836123
any 2d game is better played with arrow keys than a joystick, so unless you have a controller with a good d-pad you're better off playing on a keyboard

I bet half of you are getting filtered because you're used to longnail. The hitboxes are tight as fuck just get closer. Stop diagonal pogoing from 10 feet away you can still permanently stay in the air against most fights.

>there's two types of currencies
>the one that you get from every enemy has a limit to how much you can hold
>have yet to find what you spend it on
>the other one is only dropped by a select few enemies (so far)
>it's used for buying everything I've seen
What weird design.

The only thing I don't like is how your corpse stays exactly where you died. In HK they always put your ghost in the previous section or outside the boss room.
Although I admit it only takes one hit to get it back now so it's easier.

>>719837784
Jonathans kick has a broken hitbox, dont worry you avoided garbage

>>719838063
>>have yet to find what you spend it on
You automatically spend it to replenish your tools ammo at benches. Probably to buy some things too I guess but I haven't seen any yet.

guys can i talk about the big boss i just came across

>the fucking magma robot fight
fuck that's a close hit. Not hard but fucker takes a lot of hits/.

honestly wish it was just a boss rush game they are all awesome so far but the platforming while dealing with trash mobs makes every zone feel like blight town

not a fan of everything doing double damage for no reason

You know how in BotW they watched people playtest the start of the game over and over and intentionally put nice things in the directions people tended to go? It feels almost like I fell into that, but the opposite.

>expensive item at the first merchant
>oh, cool, i wonder what that's for
>find useful merchant later on, spend all my money
>the NEXT FUCKING SCREEN is the spot where you would have used the expensive item
>have to save up for it again
>get close to having enough for it
>enter a dangerous area and die twice, losing everything
It genuinely feels like it was perfectly laid out and designed for this to happen. Like every step of the way, the developers intentionally did something that made me feel good, and then tore it away immediately.

Savage Beastfly attempt number 244 or thereabouts and I finally got him.

This new combat system is worse than the old one. Why did I put myself through this

Hi! Just popping in to say Moor Wing is the worst designed boss I've ever fought in any game ever and honestly I might drop the game
>sometimes does two hearts, sometimes does 3, fuck it how about this time I do 4? Total rng bullshit
>sometimes his feet are a hotbox, sometimes not, heck fuck it let's make his wing a hitbox sometimes!
>oh also when he falls sometimes his feet will be a hitbox sometimes not!!!!!! :)))
>oh and also!!!!!! Let's not forget let's make him totally outrange and reach hornet!!! Haha so cool!!!

>>719838391
i'm betting they patch it

>>719838542
don't forget that when he does his upward attack the main body moves to track hornet lol. It's retarded

>>719838542
Get the reaper crest first, learn to read tells
>>719838545
Nah

>>719834373
>there's an alternate way to kill this boss by hitting the rocks above it

kino

>>719838545
they should patch the healing system too
>need a full thread bar to heal

>>719838595
>upward attack
.....I'm sorry what attack is this? Because I've managed to knock him down 4 times and I've never seen this and if your telling me he has another fucking phase I'm done

The bosses and music in this game are soooooooo much better than the first

The level design is a lot worse though

>>719838545
They probably will, yeah. I'd bet money that it's part of their marketing strategy.

>silksong is taking forever to release
>breaking news: silksong shadowdrop!
>breaking news: indies are complaining about silksong
>silksong is TOO HARD?
>they FIXED SILKSONG!
The devs probably consulted a PR firm and they told them the whole playbook.

I HATE BLASTED STEPS
I HATE TAKING TWO DAMAGE BECAUSE I PRESSED Z ONE (1) FRAME TOO LATE

whats inside?

>>719838674
It's high cost high reward. You heal 3 masks, can use it while suspended in the air. This also factors into the choice to make enemies deal more damage. I assume there will be amulets that increase the healing or lower the cost.

>>719830881
Silksong is way harder than the first Hollow Knight. I still am on 5 masks at 5 hours in. Feel like I need to explore more, I'm unlocking zones too fast or something.

>>719838724
where he shoots the two glaives in the air upwards

>>719838960
Can you show me on the map where that is? I finally bought the key but I fucking forgot where the door is and I'm not about to comb the entire map trying to find it.

>>719820190 (OP)
nice mechanic faggots.
be a shame if it were already executed way better in other games.

I killed Moor Wing but I still haven't found Shakra. Does he just not show up in this area? I'm so fucking lost now.

>>719820190 (OP)
HORNET DIES AT THE END OF SILK SONG

>>719838063
It's crafting bullshit. It makes no sense since using the tools seems more cumbersome than just using the needle skills. Plus the whole going to bench thing.

>>719820190 (OP)
Haven't bought the game yet, does this thing fucks with your thumb or no? I have de quervain and I don't want another tendonitis inducing game.

>>719839075
Shakra is in literally the first room to the right in that area.

>>719839075
She's to the east of Halfway Home.

>>719839242
Welp I completely fucking passed him and ended up in the Bell area with the travelers subdued by silk, y'know with the cutscene

You can unlock the Knight's moveset pretty early, at least.

>>719839010
dozo. you hop across the cages. let me know whats inside

>>719838972
You have 3 silk hearts that each give you a free silk unit. So once you have them it's always a quarter full already

>>719839310
where is it?

>>719838160
>Probably to buy some things too I guess but I haven't seen any yet.
There was one quest in the beginning that required you to donate 200 of it.

>>719839323
Unfortunately I'm lost as fuck currently and have no idea where a stag station (I forget what it's actually called) is

>>719839208
It probably will fuck with your thumb. There is some very fiddly platforming.

>>719839084
when I'm playing she dies at the start too

>>719820335
>
Sorry, I'm old and my wrists/hands start hurting too much to do diagonal pogo ad nauseum.

>>719839398
Yeah, what does that even do? I haven't gotten any reward for it. I assumed it was to let the carpenter dude upgrade the camp, but I haven't seen any difference yet.

>JUST PRACTICE
No.
It's fucking stupid. It's a retarded goddamn mechanic and I hope someone nukes Australia for this. 8 fucking years for shit.

>>719839412
stag station and how you unlock it are on the grey icon in the top left

so why the fuck did they decide to add world of warcraft quests?

>>719839208
Use keyboard.

I LOVE DIAGONAL POKE
I LOVE DASHING

>>719839385

You need to get the key for 500 rosary, and a door is located on the West side of the map above the starting area. You get there by pogoing across on some enemies near some thin hanging cages. There you head through that next area with the aim of going down.

Do you guys think this will be a long game? Somehow ended up playing the original Hollow Knight for around 50 hours

>>719839516
What I meant was I was in an area with no map and no idea where to go. I've since found my way and opened the door.

It opened up a new area

>>719839636
Of course, it's supposed to be bigger than HK. Expect a good 50-60 hours.

>you still have to farm up currency to buy basic map shit and use an entire charm slot so you can see yourself on the map (and so far it seems there's only one slot for utility charms like this so you're basically locked out of all the other ones)
WHY??? This was one of the biggest issues with the first game.

>>719837169
I fucking fucked up and lost 300 beads. I am maximum butthurt right now these things are so sparse.

>>719839636
I hope so. so far the areas have been pretty short.

>>719838742
Rectangles? What, are they rhombuses now?

>>719839498
I think you get a new shop eventually or something like that.

I'm stuck in Greymoor. Too many areas require a high jump of some sort. Do I need to go elsewhere? I've gone everywhere I could and can't find a way to progress. Unless it's that chapel area with a tough gauntlet that I couldn't get past

how do you beat this nigga early?

>>719839724

I've already found a way to equip two Yellow Charms simultaneously, seems like a short term issue.

>>719823560
Mine is capped at 240. Seems like it's based on your monitor's refresh rate.

>>719839887
just jump and attack, it was the first boss that I killed

How the fuck did twice as many people beat Fourth Chorus as Lace according to the steam achiement %? Learn to navigate better you fucks
>>719838063
you donate it to fix up the starter town
>>719838542
He does damage based on how long you were in his attack. If you were super close when you got hit you'll get hit multiple times.

My accuracy is almost perfect using it as an attack, there's something fucking wrong with the shit you bounce off of like it needs a bigger hitbox.

I'm stuck in Greymoor. Too many areas require a high jump of some sort. Do I need to go elsewhere? I've gone everywhere I could and can't find a way to progress. Unless it's that chapel area with a tough gauntlet that I couldn't get past.

>>719839943
there is not enough range to do that and not enough time to go back to the cover

>>719840089

Have you been to Wyrmway yet?

How are you supposed to know what is Boss 1, Boss 2, Boss 3...
How the fuck do you even know what a boss is or if it's just a big enemy

>>719840158
nevermind, i found a way

>>719840259
how did you do it? What does it drop? I ate shit on this nigga

>>719840158
1. Hide under ledge
2. Walk to the right so that the boss is on the right side of the ledge at the end of the attack
3. Quickly jump on top of the ledge from the left
4. Jump and hit the boss as he goes under you
5. Quickly jump off the left of the ledge and hide under it
6. Lather rinse repeat

>>719820190 (OP)
its just a really shit mechanic OP, should not have went into the game live as the default down air attack.

Y'know as much as I'm finding it hard to get used to the diagonal pogo, I just unlocked the first crest and honestly it makes things so much harder despite having a normal pogo.

How do I get the diagonal poke back i now how the hollow knight pogo and I don't know how or why

>>719840295
see >>719840339

Didn't hollow knight marry hornet in the first game? Why is she alone now?

>>719829874
What part is this? I'm in the rainy city and no luck so far.

>>719840462

Switch at a bench.

where is the crests at?

>>719840462
You unlocked a new crest. You can switch back to the old crest at a bench.

>>719840528
Bro, they're siblings

Go play the game

>>719840580

The OG moveset crest is what the 500 rosary key is for.

>>719840671
Alright but what door are you talking about? this one? >>719838960

>Load game in bell area
>all of a sudden hentai plot

>>719840356
it's shit because you suck at it?

Best way to farm red money?

>>719840660
I am, just killed the bell bug guy

>>719840737
w-what did you mean by this?

The fuck she glowing for

>>719840793
This thing

>>719840462
WHERE IS THIS CREST
IM IN THE CITY OF TEARS WANNABE ZONE

I was gonna grab a copy tonight but the complaints about the difficulty are turning me off. I'm still considering it since the game is cheap but I may wait and see if the dev team responds to the criticism.

>>719840859
that's a big guy for little hornet

>>719840821
After using her heal ability, any hits to the enemies give you little silk balls that you can collect to gain silk. Ends after a certain time period, or after you get hit once.

>>719840915

Do keep in mind that the the average person is retarded.

So far it seems pretty standard difficulty so far, i'm early on and already there are lots of tools being offered to deal with situations.

SHAW
ADIDO
HEGALE

>find the worthless lifesteal crest
>still no HK pogo crest
there better be a wiki when i wake up

>>719840915
if you played Hollow Knight 1 it's jsut slightly more dififcult at the beginning.

Any old faces from the hallownest?

>>719820190 (OP)
Are you 50 or something? At what age does this kind of stuff start to change?

>>719841119

>he doesn't know

>>719840915
I was playing nuclear throne just yesterday and this game is for retarded babies in comparison

I've just met Nuu!!!!

I want to ______ Nuu!

>>719840915
they kinda cranked up the difficulty in those small trash mob arenas and everything hits for 2 masks
you cant be retarded anymore and there is no pogo to cheese everything that flies

>>719840915
Just pirate it

>>719841205
no i do fucking not, the only thing ive skipped is the tool upgrade for 180 rosaries
unless im bricked by using simple key in the docks instead in the grass area idk
then again that tool that make you do fire dmg trivialized pretty much everything so far

>>719820190 (OP)
As hornet says : Git Gud.

>>719841119
That’s the reaper crest anon

>>719841314
>tool upgrade for 180 rosaries
There is one just for 180?

>>719841347
Are you serious? downward pogo is locked behind the Reaper Crest?
Man, I have no choice but to get good with Hunter's Crest now that I went all in on it

can someone tell me what the FUCK they were thinking with that bird arena?!

>>719840295
repeat this
not really worth since the only drop is a beast shard

>>719841347
Ok so it is in city of tears, someone posted video 12 min ago.
Well then i guess its ~5h to make the game playable once i go back to it

>>719840089
anyone? how do I get to the boss at least?

>>719841487

The pogo is on a different crest found in the cemetery that's basically West right behind a door near place you first meet the old woman at the start of the game.

To get it to it, you need to open the simple door located above, which you access by parkouring over between the enemies and the hanging cages.

>>719841571
apparently there's no greymoor boss if you arrive there through the caravan?

>>719821464
You get other options later to replace the down attack.

>>719838960
Deepnest Redux and the path to a bunch more of the game.

>>719824638
He might be. Don't doubt this place. Don't doubt tech weirdos.

>>719841828
>it gets good 7 hours in
yea were getting memed to death for this pogo bullshit, even HK only took like 2 to start being good

>>719820190 (OP)
>the new great filter for /v/irgins is not a boss, but diagonal movement
90% of this board can visualize a red apple in their heads I bet.

>>719841528
i just died to this guy. he takes so many hits

>>719820190 (OP)
>diagonal poking
Did you play the original?
https://youtu.be/l0eM-t5stAc

>>719841528
nta but
>can still sometimes get hit if you're not completely dead center under the platform
took twice as many hits as he should've too.

>>719820190 (OP)
It's so pathetic when people age. I look and feel just as young as I did when the first game came out. Just don't age lmao

>>719842034
Im more baffled how team cherry makes pretty much perfect game and decide to fucking ruin it with this one dogshit roleplay change.

>>719820190 (OP)
yeah its tryhard shit
not a fun game

>play game
>think new down attack is amazing
>makes movement faster and allows you to control height
>come here
>/v/ is getting filtered by it
Everytime with you guys.
>>719838652
What???????
I noticed the wind on the side at the end of the fight(only because I was forced as there was no floor left), but I didn't go up, anyone has a video of this?

>>719838960
step inside, walk this way, you and me babe HEY HEY

Anyone know how to get the bench in Sinner's Road up?

>>719842153
I'm not a pro by any means, but I already got used to it, I have no idea how /v/ manages to be so terrible at games.

>>719836123
Don't listen to console cultists. 2d platformers that don't require analog inputs are best played on a keyboard.>>719832864

>>719820190 (OP)
We can't have 8 direction attacks because....WE JUST CANT

>>719841528
There is no justification for this shit taking any more than 2 hits.
this game does not respect players time. people are fucking idiots for playing Hollow Knight with how bad the damage sponge enemies are.
They're even dumber for not tearing this shit apart for the same mistakes. "combat" is so fucking repetitive.

I think it's time to admit that Silksong's gameplay is bad, and it's not a "git gud" thing

>>719840745
its shit because its shit

Hilarious thread, every soulslike release is a treasure trove for /v/babs seething.

>>719843208
It is in fact a git gud thing
t. currently still bad at it

>>719841528
Riveting gameplay

>>719837601
What are your controls?

What’s the name of the white bug girl I just beat?
Fun fight. Was close, she had me at one mask. Didn’t kill me though

>>719842947
That’s not even a console thing just folks like controllers

>oh nice a bench/vendor/fast travel stop
>errrrrrrrmmmmm sweaty? your rosary tax???????
This is the gayest shit. Also I wish they stole stakes of marika some of these runbacks fucking blow.

>>719844249
Lace

>>719832003
it horseshit that no tooltip told me this

>>719844165
WSAD for movement, J jump K attack the rest you will figure out.

>>719840962
is this from reaper, or from bell?

>>719844640
I honestly don't remember. Could be either or.

>>719843208
It's still fun but a lot of enemies feel too spongey and more than a few bosses aren't interesting enough to warrant such high health.

>>719844703
every time you talk to her she squats down and it reminds me of that meme, "how to talk to short people"

>>719841206
weird, why do i have so much more fun with nuclear throne than this despite being a retarded baby

these scissor fucking NIGGERS are going to give me an aneurysm

>>719831782
Anon...

>>719836881
>>719836906
>>719837548
His Stance is so dogshit I regret all the time I sunk into him.

>>719844859
they're a walk in the park compared to the kunai birds

done with my session for now
fuck the guy in the church of the beast
holy shit

Who would win in a fight, End game /our/ knight or this shaw bitch

>>719845016
Wdym by endgame /our/ knight? Does that include the form he takes to beat Absolute Radiance?
Because that’s just a god. He’s literally a god there.

>>719845108
So what, he beat two gods when he's just a vessel
And hornet is half god at least
Either way, I don't think fighting is nice and I hope they become really good siblings

they appealed too hard to the pantheonfags and their "yeah playing the boring shit over and over and then getting one shotted by Faglord Supreme is fun actually" autism and not enough to "normal person who liked playing Hollow Knight"

>>719844971
is it because you figured out how to fight the scissor niggers or because kunai birds are even more horseshit

>>719845016
we haven't seen the ending yet, no idea how OP hornet gets

>>719845356
yeah that's true, I'll just delete my post in case someone already has been playing 24/7 and beat the game and spoils it

>>719845281
I mostly spam diagonal attacks at the scissors guys, they either block them or they get hit, either way I repeat the pattern
kunai birds stay out of range and take a trillion hits, maybe I should not be in that area yet, who knows

>>719845265
It really does feel awkward as a stand alone game when it's blatantly designed under the assumption you've done an entire Hollow Knight play through or more. Consequences of DLC getting out of hand I guess.

where the fuck do you get her wall climb. i have the sprint/thrust/everything else & have made it to the far fields but there's places where i still simply can't get to without it

>>719845265
Powercreep strikes again

>>719820190 (OP)
nobody played hollowknight, neither did you.

>>719845606
Man, I did an entire Hollow Knight playthrough. I did all the extra shit that was in the base game, I did the Path of Pain without using the "extra two blue health every respawn" charm, but that clearly isn't good enough and Silksong is really meant for the 'sub 10 hour Steel Soul shitbucket god' guys. Which makes me kind of sad, really.

>>719820190 (OP)
Did you go into some fucking Dragon Ball Z training chamber or something? Your cognitive and motor abilities shouldn't decline so much in just 8 years for you too feel much of a difference unless you are in your 80s.

>>719845265
as a pantheonfag I admit that it feels tuned for me
but I don't think they're necessarily wrong for doing it

>>719831514
Hes up and to the right of the map vendor

>>719820190 (OP)
I am getting filtered by that room after the big ant dude. every time I die I need to go trough that stupid corridor and those flying enemies.
Are there any upgrade I am missing or something. every enemy takes a millions hit to die.

>>719836360
Hunters March is the new Dark Souls 1 skeleton graveyard lol, just dont go there yet

>>719844703
I agree there is not reason for the ant enemies to die at 4 hits, you also barely do any fucking knock back so I need to keep going back and forth all the time.

>>719846062
there is a closer bench, where the thief is
assuming we're talking about the same enemy

>>719846062
nope, that area is just aids.

>>719845158
Well godhome is basically the godseeker showing potential incarnate and that fight against AR is them realizing you’re the god they should’ve been looking at the entire time.

>>719846180
yeah but the the bench is before the huge ant dude, that I killed. so when i die I need to go back there and go trough like 4 different rooms before I get into that room again.
The room is annoying as fuck mostly because the flying enemies have almost zero knock back and take 4 hits, the ones with the lace look like they are going to attack one way but some times they attack the opposite way they are looking. the little ant ninjas also throw their shuriken's at random so Idk if i should jump or not.

>>719845265
I hated the pantheons but nothing has been too hard so far. Like, comparing Nightmare Grimm and Pure Vessel to this early game? LOL.

>2am
>reactions are getting slower and missinputs galore
>savage flybeast
>almost 4am now
At least I beat it before going to bed, that fucking fight is broken.

>get one part of a mask upgrade
>most enemies do 2 damage
>realize that finally finishing the upgrade and going from 5 to 6 health doesn't actually change how many hits you can take
>lose all interest in even bothering

>>719820190 (OP)
diagonal attacks have never been fun, controllers are built for the 4 cardinal directions in mind not diagonals. i'm 6 hours in and I still can't do the pogo 100% consistently but never had trouble with HK's pogo

>>719820190 (OP)
>buy silksong
>early weekend
>buy pizza
>get ready to launch silksong
>realise controller I've had for about 5 years finally croaked on me
how's the game boys?

>>719846817
meh

>>719824931
You can parry his one-two swing by timing your attacks to it.

>>719846817
If you like HK then you are going to love this one. Once you start dashing everywhere the game gets so fun.

>>719831173
One next to the druid
One really early on in the starting area.
One a screen or two before the first boss, you have to bounce off a flier to get it.

>>719829889
I love that little retard banging her metal things together and demanding the world obey her. Something about it is incredibly endearing to me.

imagine if mario 1 came out, and people loved it... then mario 2 came out and it was literally just kaizo. People would complain, /v/ would just say get good.

At what point is a game just overtuned for the franchise that it's a part of? Hollow Knight was never a difficult game, why the fuck did they ramp up the sequel so much? Hell, why stop at 2 damage an attack, just decrease HP to 3 health, and then increase damage to three an attack. Obviously difficulty is a fluid thing, but HK was always more about exploration and fun than it was about kaizo level execution. My mom finished hollow knight, I couldn't see her getting past the third boss in this game..

>>719847596
The world design also feels more akin to ds3 than ds1 so far if we're making souls comparisons. I know people will like the difficulty and I'm personally fine with it but I hope this isnt the direction I keep sensing later in the game

>>719842405
I did it but dont have video. There are red "whack to explode" things on either side. Hit one then the other and the boulder falls on it

>>719847596
Is the joke that lost levels was exactly that?

FPS dropping to single digits during boss fights here
I have a 4090 and 9800x3d
What the fuck?

>>719847792
there's not really a joke, I'm saying why the fuck did they take a casual game and turn it into something much more difficult

what does the crafting kit from the forge daughter do??

>>719847810
why lie?

>>719847847
Oh, well you picked a terrible comparison then.
As for the rest, Dark Souls 2 syndrome. Hollow Knight got a lot of fluff for having a bunch of difficult bosses so the devs doubled down on that

>>719836442
and you aren't?

>>719820190 (OP)
i haven't played the game yet but i watched charlie play and he rage quit after a couple hours and said the game is pretty bad because of this new attack

>>719848063
i picked mario 1 becuase it's easy. Regardless of if you think lost levels or mario 2 are easy or not, it's a hypothetical

>>719848094
anon no one knows who your weird friend is

>>719837707
Yes sir. I will NOT buy your game sir. You can have it all to yourself sir. I will never buy Silksong. Thank you sir!

>>719836123
works fine, but i prefer using the num-pad for platformers like it's a fighting game
wasd
b = jump
4789+56/ = interactions
e = inventory
TAB = map
I guess it's easier to use the numpad instead of the arrow keys but it takes muscle memory

fake gamers

THIS BOSS FUCKING SUCKS
SO MUCH HEALTH
AM I SUPPOSED TO BE HERE?
https://files.catbox.moe/4c501k.mp4

>>719820190 (OP)
I'm not sure what you fags are doing wrong because I'm only getting better at games as I age
maybe you're just a shitter looking for a scapegoat

>>719845759
Don't mess with us silksong fans. we haven't even played the original

Sinners path is pretty annoying
>>719847947
Tools make more damage

>not enough rosaries to buy both maps and accessories
>next room is full of enemies that drop them
>can’t find the map seller anymore
Game too hard, I quit

>Comes out during an ambush to "help" you so you're not 2v1
>Creates a visual clusterfuck that makes it actually harder for you to do shit
>Literally all style and no substance cause her attacks are dogshit

Man, can I just tell her to fuck off? I can take them on my own. Her jumping around creating afterimages is fucking retarded. And her sprite is the largest piece of shit on screen.

>>719841347
>reaper crest is supposed to be downards pogo
No it fucking isn't, that shit is too slow to be considered the hollow knight pogo. It's still better than the base pogo because it's massive, but it's not the same.

ok the trap tool is INSANELY STRONG. GET IT ASAP. I'm fucking melting bosses with this thing

>>719821607
>There's a big red dude that I can't get past because every attack jumps and leaps forward.
git gud. You can jump away when he attacks and you can run under him when he does a jump slash.

>>719820190 (OP)
Me too. Guess it just isn’t our time anymore…zzzzz….ACK!

So is this just Dragon's Dogma 2 all over again

>>719839887
Just hide under the platforms and attack once.

The fact everything is doing 2 damage makes me think we get armor at some point. Right? Tell me I'm not just coping.

i'm completely and utterly lost on far fields, fuck this game holy shit

>>719820190 (OP)
I love diagonal pogo.

>>719850630
i don't think it's coming anon...

>>719849509
You want wanderer crest

>>719836704
The worst part is they frame it like this heckin epic Marvel Cinematic Universe scene where she comes in during your darkest hour for an unexpected teamup and you two kick the badguy butts!!!

But what actually happens is she flips around like a retard and confuses the fuck out of you while the enemies use her distraction to fuck you up.

I literally broke a sweat fighting Widow. What the fuck are they doing putting an optional tier diffuculty boss in the beginning of the base game. I think this shit took an hour and a half because I was too stubborn to look for a closer bench until my 7th or so attempt.
He would have been a breeze if this game would give me some FUCKING masks

>>719851148
Oh
>1.4% of players have this achievement
I feel just a little bit vindicated.

i'm about 10 hours in. so far imo hollow knight is a MUCH better game with better pacing. These bosses, the platforming, and the fucking trash enemies all feel like post game content from the original What the fuck were they thinking? I even did a no-death run of the original and I'm floundering, imagine some normie playing this shit.. There's no way redditors are beating this game.

>>719851242
>originally designed to be HK1 dlc
>keep it tuned to post-game difficulty meant for people that beat HK
Guarantee you that's what happened.

>>719848094
the game is bad but also charlie is a pedo who thinks small children can consent to being castrated.

>>719820190 (OP)
35 year old senior citizen here.
I have no issue with the diagonal pogo jumping.

Have you considered the problem might be your brain and not your age?

>>719851323
honestly, that must be it. Seems very stupid for a game on its own though

You realize you can get wanderer crest at the beginning of the game if you farm the moss mobs for rosaries and take the platform to the worm place early game? I found it on my own, no guide or anything and boom I got pogo back within like 1 1/2 hours playtime. Fuck you people new to metroid games or something? They literally reward exploring.

There's something really off about the whole game. It's definitely more a Dark Souls 2 style game than a Metroidvania like HK1, you don't actually explore the map to help you get stronger anymore. Like there's fuck all masks outside the very linear path and bosses hit for 2 damage so half your masks don't even matter. Nail upgrades barely exist either, felt like they should have started around the first time you best Lace. I even have a friend on the final boss with ZERO nail upgrades. This shit is so ass.

Game's great until Blasted Steps holy fuck what a dogshit area.

>>719851758
no one is talking about the basedlord's crest retard

>>719851932
well think about it, there are like zero charms too, compared to HK's progression where you're constantly finding charms and power ups. So no charms, minimal mask upgrades, minimal silk upgrades, no boss rewards, etc.

It feels very different.. It's almost not even a metroidvania

The weirdest part

>>719851758
>needing to farm in a metroidvania

does she go SHAW at all???

>>719821607
He's meant to be a barrier for a much tougher area than where you're supposed to be at that point in the game, if you somehow beat him with the cheese method and not the intended way you're going into the game's equivalent of Deepnest way too early.

>>719820190 (OP)
How you all beat Sekiro and Elden Ring but you cannot muscle memory a downward angle?

>>719851242
The game assumes you've beaten Hollow Knight already. I was surprised that the first actual boss did 2 masks of damage and actually required you to pay attention, much larger step up from False Knight

>>719852175
You never farmed rockets in Metroid or cards/ eauipment in Castlevania circle of the moon?

>>719852472
>You never farmed rockets in Metroid
Outside of the first game, no

>>719852175
Uh farming is pretty normal for metroidvanias.

>>719852530
I think Metroid Fusion had multiple types

>>719852472
No I never needed to.

>>719852565
Metroid fusion has one kind of missile
>>719852548
Not the good ones

The ledge grabbing is fucking me up something fierce

>>719852714
what are the good ones?

>>719848802
Where's your 3-projectile kunai, anon?

>>719851323
>got filtered by HK1's early game because it was boring as shit
>zooming through most of the early game of Silksong
If this is what post-game HK1 is like, why is /v/ so full of casuals?

how do i acess the left side?

>>719852175
The "vania" part in Metroidvania almost always entails farming of some kind, be it specific materials for weapon fusion or specific weapon/gear/soul/item drops from enemies. You can just say you don't like Castlevania games.

Every new area is starting to consist almost primarily of flying enemies, and most of them are the kind that take a swing/shot and fly out of your range. Starting to feel real grueling.

I don't wanna work, I want to keep playing.

>>719853181
i take it you're getting to the bird area

>>719853181
just wait until you see the conchflies

>>719820190 (OP)
The bird fight sucks ass

>can't wrap your head around muh diagonal pogo
I haven't even played for 3 hours and I already found a crest thingy that lets me pogo vertically like the first game.
To borrow the words of Hornet herself:
_______GIT________
__GUD_
__________

boomerkeks...

>>719853296
Got to act 2 actually, and they still haven't let up with the flying enemies. I'll take craw lake over ever seeing a conchfly ever again.

>>719853320
Fuck those guys.

>>719853465
oh no... it gets worse??

>>719853515
So much worse...the pain starts once you hit Sinner's Road.

>>719838534
>>719846395
Glad I wasn't the only one. Goddamn, wtf was that fight? Were you meant to come back later? At least the reward was good.

>>719852882
Silksong is not post-game Hollow Knight. At most the first few areas are equivalent to the midgame

>>719840915
i mean to me personally its easier than the first game.

ADINO

Does it have a path of pain equivalent too?

ADINO

>>719852051
Figures, most people here are shitters

>>719831080
holy shit thanks nigga

>>719827621
mfw every time you get a crest it auto equips it and empties your equipment loadout

where the fuck did my egg soul thing go when I died? I can't find it anywhere.

>>719835613
mfw i went through here with my first crest unlock
feels good

>>719848802
i just did this fucker
was using reaper crest though

wait did zoomers consider hollow knight to be difficult?

>>719827440
I'm 39. The end is near.

>>719821464
Nigger it's infinite damage and airtime from the very beginning of the game, all you have to do is time it well.
I fucking love it compared to the limpdick pogo from the first game you have to get long nail to get decent air-time with.