Thread 719841849

What is the best boss in Elden Ring and why is it Godfrey/Hoarah Loux?

>>719841849 (OP)
The game shoulda ended here. The golden twink and big fish suck

>Whore-a-loo, warrior!
What did he mean by it?

>turns into a cool wrestleman
Peak

Video games peaked here desu
Shazam-tranny was already bleeding out from the kino of Elden Ring leading up to this point but when Horah Loux shouts "WARRIOR", Shazam-troon gave up the ghost for good

>>719841849 (OP)
realizing that he threw away the axe and fought at a disadvantage because that one belonged to serosh, and his REAL axe was buried in the round table was cool.

Bro wanted to throw down without any of his post-game gear, but couldn't go back for his old set.
Its like you woke up the old side of him that just lived for the thrill of the challenge, and he wanted to go back to that with you.

>>719841979
Radagon is a much better fight than Godfrey, actually. In fact, Radagon might be the best boss they've ever made.

>>719842208
the axe thing is a cool detail. i wish serosh and the idea of beast consorts was elaborated on more, such a cool concept.
and imagine how powerful he must have been in the past for Radahn of all people to idolize him to the point of modeling his armor after him.

>>719842208
More like he wanted to beat the shit out of his son(You)

>>719841849 (OP)
I didn't enjoy fighting a single boss in this game.

>>719842208
The twist is actually that he is a fucking saiyan and trying to fight you with an axe was just holding him back. That's why he outright describes it as a "courtesy" that he rescinds when you get him down to half health.

>>719841849 (OP)
Messmer, Bayle, and Midra literally mog everything base game. I like the fire giant the most personally. I like the arena it takes place in.

>>719842978
why'd you spend what i can only assume is tens of hours playing a game you didn't enjoy?

this absolute pain in the ass faggot that actually borderline made me throw the controller at the wall, not that it's good, but the absolute pleasure of finally beating it gave me a joy that no game has given me before

>>719841849 (OP)
What bosses? This game had bosses?

>>719843581
This. If you're going to give me a pokemon for every dungeon I clear I'm using those pokemon to get more pokemon.

>>719841849 (OP)
my favorite was Mohg

>>719842973
>>719843008
No?
Everything he was using after becoming elden lord was stuff of Serosh's.
The armor, the axe, the literal grafting of serosh to his back.
All so he could act like a lord instead of the murderhobo player he used to be.
He tosses all that aside to stop holding back, but it doesn't change that he fights you WITHOUT using the gear he beat serosh with, and his axe buried in the roundtable is the proof.

>>719843541
That's the the main point of fromsoft games as far as design goes.
To put you in that ragebox, make you chase that goal, and give you that sense of victory.

>>719843702
The mimic tear isn’t sentient/independent
It’s nothing more than a kage bunshin from Naruto

>Used to be Tarnished y'know
>Let me guess, some optimized fextralife build?
>Try a blind playthrough! Coulda remained Elden Lord if I hadn't gone to other lands
>Don't fuck with this Warrior!

>>719841979
Elden Beast is the best boss they've ever designed and the only way people dislike him is if they're fighting him wrong

>>719841849 (OP)
its false king allant....always

>>719844223
What makes you think that the axe he left in roundtable hold is better than the one he fights you with now?

>>719844387
you mean they made a faith build and have to respec because GRRM said that the int/ranni route is the only valid one

>>719844331
That's not true, the nox were killed and replace by silver tears. There was even going to be a whole quest about your mimic tear but it got cut for some reason

>>719843541
>She wants to kill him all by herself for the bragging rights
You are supposed to summon all the goddamn NPCs in the arena, it elevates the boss fight into a kinographic experience, and an actual festival/competition where everyone wants the killing blow on Radahn
Summoning Patches and seeing him turn around and unsummoning himself will never not be funny

>>719844387
Elden Beast sucks. He's only annoying now, since we can use horse, but before the DLC came out he was one of the worst bosses in the game.

>>719844387
It has cool music and aesthetics and of course lore, but the boss itself is terrible with how much it runs away so frequently and makes you fight the camera because of how huge it is in tandem with the shite lock on.

>>719844535
>ACKSHUALLY LORE SAYS
Shut the fuck stupid fucking nerd.

>>719844624
It's not some secret lore, it's extremely obvious when you go through Nokron, and re-emphasized the first time you find a mimic in the overworld.

>>719844506
>spell stat only build
spellchuckers are NPC bodies who exist to summon me
>>719844584
>horse
Retarded+filtered, try fighting him correctly
>>719844594
>lore
>doesn't know when and when not to lock onto something
Retarded+skill issue, you probably struggle with every boss, especially dragons (easiest ones)

>>719844565
I DID THAT, BUT THEY ARE USELESS!!

>>719844883
The easiest way to do the fight is to let the summons take aggro and use hit and run tactics. Radahn is probably the easiest boss to beat without taking a hit because you can just outrun his ranged attacks whenever you need to resummon your army.

I liked Rellana/Renalla most, I mean the one of the dlc. I can't remember which one that is. With a low scadutree level it felt like a fair and difficult dance.

>>719841849 (OP)
He's shit and easy and has the worst voice acting in the game after rykard
>>719844387
Elden beast is shit and easy, if you think he's the best boss then you're a retarded shitter who got filtered and should play something else
>>719844565
>You're supposed to cheat, it makes the boss kino!
No you're not, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>719844565
Summoning NPC's just makes him spin like a beyblade, does help with distracting him though. Didn't bother learning his moveset until like the 4th time because of that

>>719842857
>Radagon might be the best boss they've ever made
He has no flavor at all, I hate it

>>719842857
it was only good because of the hype music be fr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDpexCxi23o

>>719844835
I fought elden beast like a dozen times before we had horse. He fucking sucks. He runs away constantly. His moves aren't hard to dodge but you have to do it over and over and OVER again. The only non-tedious way to fight it is to just bite the bullet and spam pest threads or shard spiral. Radagon was an ENORMOUSLY better fight

>>719844478
His original axe is intact, Serosh's is busted and missing an entire head.
He is fighting you with a broken weapon, holding back, and he BEAT the previous "lord" serosh with his old axe.
Maybe he was the one that broke his current axe in his old fight, or maybe its something that happened after he got ahold of it.
either way, THAT axe is fucked up, his original axe is fine, but also strange.

I wonder if he broke Serosh's axe on purpose to make it more like his original axe, because that one is clearly made to be one-headed.

Looking further, his OLD axe is clearly made so he can use it as a spear or lance.
Serosh's axe can't do that.
He might have had entire movesets he never got to hit you with, but that is just me theorizing.

>>719845376
Radagon is a push over little bitch and a snooze, pure warm-up for Beast. If you can't fight Elden beast correctly that's a (You) problem, he's filled with openings. You probably don't even realize you can predict the exact place he'll come up when he does his hurdle jumping AoE, it's just free damage

>>719841849 (OP)
Mogh is better.

>>719844387
I just thought he looked kinda boring just galaxy nessie

>>719845209
>>719845361
He's extremely dynamic and reactive but not in an unfair way. He has lots of moves that are ostensibly difficult to dodge but once you have some practice it's not hard to low profile or strafe around him to get in hits; you really feel like you're bobbing and weaving through his strikes. I also like how he gets progressively bigger and more aggressive moves as his health depletes, as it lends a great sense of progression and climax. His projectile parry is also hype.

>>719841849 (OP)
The lord of frenzied flame. Easy.

>>719845532
>he's filled with openings.
Yeah no shit. Once you reach him it's trivial to start beating on his ass. But then he pisses off again and you have to go catch him, like 10 or 15 times depending on your build. It's not hard, it's fucking annoying. Even worse than Midir's constant tantrums.

>>719845954
you can footsie and jump half of what he does and drop him in less than 30 seconds. He's equivalent to Genichiro before Isshin in Sekiro.

>>719846038
>go catch him
he comes to you if you let him, like every other boss, him running away is only a problem if he's running after the other players you summoned

>>719841849 (OP)
This guy made me seethe hard. Fuck his second form.
He had good music though. Generally the ER music is a massive downgrade compared to other from games. Massive disappointment on that front.
>>719845810
>galaxy nessie
Kek

>>719844387
Not really
The fight itself is very pretty and beautiful, sure. But at that point it'd have been better off as a cut scene. The other Erdtrees in the background, the music, the grab attack where it crucifies you like it did to Marika, etc all add up to a very memorable fight, but it's not even close to the best boss they've ever done.
My other complaint is the look of the actual Elden Beast. It's like a space... fish... dragon? The gooey body is alright, but the shape is mundane. That combined with the fact that it uses a sword makes it feel too terrestrial rather than something truly not of this world. Same problem I had with Astel's look. Astel has a humanoid skull + arms and hands, despite the fact that he's a literal alien.

Honestly, it would have been way more surreal and divine-themed if it was just the literal Elden Ring fighting you by shooting lasers and telekinetically swinging Radagons body at you

>>719846319
Thanks for wasting my time waxing off about nothing, I don't really care about his design, he's a well made fight and extremely satisfying to defeat
Especially when you aren't a scrub who lets him zone you

>>719846510
Oh you're talking about just the fight itself? Not the boss fight experience as a whole?
Hmm, well in that case I'd still say it's only above average. It was just too easy imo, although that might have been because I was a bit over-leveled.
A genuine complaint is that when the Elden Beast moves around so much, it's a legit pain in the ass + boring to chase him from one end of the arena to the other.

>>719841849 (OP)
You can't divorce a boss from the game they're in, so considering how Elden Ring has terrible progression that allows you to get stronger than the game can keep up with (without resorting to absolute bs), that disqualifies anything after Limgrave. So it's either Margit (at very low RL) or this guy. Objectively speaking.

>>719846909
>chase him
Shouldn't be, the only time he isn't planning to come to you is during the sword projectiles. The only time its appropriate to be running towards him. Everything else he does at range is just there so he can get in close again.

>>719841849 (OP)
At the point I got to this guy I was so burnt out and done with the game that I summoned to kill everything.
No way he's the best boss.

>>719841849 (OP)
My only complaint is about the cutscene where it fades to black before he un-grafts Serosh.
He acts too calm, Serosh fading into dust is lame, and it just skips to him already bare chested without showing him taking off his armor?

It could have been way cooler instead, if Serosh materializes and starts to climb off his back, only for him to grab Serosh by the tail and fling him away. This followed by snapping his axe in half, throwing off his armor, and crushing his crown in his hands before doing the whole "WARIOR!!!" bit.

>>719842208
Why do you type like such a faggot?

>>719841849 (OP)
If not for his absolutely retarded grab animation where he defies the laws of physics and pauses in mid-air to grab you because the devs are completely out of ideas for how to make their games difficult without evolving the combat, then sure, I could see it.

>>719847248
sounds like you just got mad because I was sincere about it.

>>719846213
>he comes to you if you let him, like every other boss,
He's slow as fuck

>>719846124
Him being statistically a bit undertuned does not make the fight bad. Just unequip the haligdrake talisman if you want the fight to be harder

>>719847259
I genuinely hate the physics defying bullshit, used to be a strength of souls games that they were at least somewhat grounded and didn't resort to anime fuckery to up the stakes.

>>719847378
>haligdrake talisman
projecting, and it has nothing to do with the damage he does or anything like that. He is just a piss easy fight
>roll forward through 3/4 his attacks
>jump any time he lifts his dumb foot
>roll through light spears
The only thing he does of any real hindrance is the 1 light spear he smashes on the ground and creates an multi-hit AoE with, otherwise he's a punching bag.

>>719845741
Am i blind? Where's the gay ass Putrescent Knight? That fight sucks

>>719847326
You could just stop summoning people and he'd focus you

>>719844835
>spellchuckers are NPC bodies who exist to summon me

there is nothing wrong with a Christ build

>>719847674
That wouldn't make his move speed less dogshit

>>719847598
Havent done an image for the dlc, dude is low b-tier.

>>719847708
So you do summon people? Thought so

>>719843541
They really did fuck this fight hard with the nerfs. He barely gets going anymore. It was perfect for how it was designed to be fought at launch

>>719847746
No, I don't, why would I summon for a boss that's mechanically piss easy but just has 10 billion health and constantly runs away? All that would do is make the fight take even longer. I've never summoned a player or a spirit and never ONCE has the beast moved towards me at anything faster than a crawl. He ONLY dashes to run away.

>>719847259
I love how mad people get at animations made to make you flinch, hesitate, or trick you into rolling early. They're the most fun and interesting attacks to play around in the game

>>719848147
Fuck off Miyazaki.

>>719848284
Hey anon, dodge this!

>>719847870
>10 billion health and constantly runs away
skill issue, I kill him in like a minute and a half because I'm not a shitter
>I've never summoned a player or a spirit and never ONCE has the beast moved towards me at anything faster than a crawl. He ONLY dashes to run away.
you can't lie to me, fag

>>719844506
>faith build and have to respec
is what an explorelet who didn't find ancient dragon lightning would say

>>719848623
>str cuck
You didn't beat the game.

>>719841849 (OP)
I actually really liked the Dragonkin Soldiers.
More than the normal dragons for sure.
They just felt like really well set up boss fights. The camera works good, they're threatening without being overwhelming, attacks that feel good to dodge around.

>>719844387
He sucks ass.
Radagon is a really fun fight, Elden Beast is sponge that spams annoying to dodge attacks at you and constantly runs away so you can't even spam him down.

>>719844565
Its actually harder when you summon the NPCs, because running around like a dumbass getting the signs means you're going to get smashed with an arrow at least once.

>>719844506
Faith has plenty of options for Elden Beast and other holy bosses. Never understood this retardation.

>>719848669
>>719849071
yeah ok I suck at the game, I wouldn't suck as much with an Int or Quality build and you know that

>>719849341
Yes you would. Stop blaming your tools.

>>719848726
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LEVEL THE DAMAGE STAT AND LEARN TO JUMP AND DODGE YOU HAVE TO STAND 100FT AWAY LIKE ME
ok retard

>>719848815
>Radagon is a really fun fight
Piss easy so shitters enjoy it
>Elden Beast is sponge that spams annoying to dodge attacks at you and constantly runs away so you can't even spam him down
Boss that attempts to zone you with openings that filters shitters and is actually fantastic
Did you know you can hit him as he swims away if you aren't a shitter with bad timing?

I've been cruising parts of the Elden Ring community and there is something I do not get. Why are so many people mad that there aren't unlimited Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones (somber too)? You get like 20 per playthrough and a NG+ cycle only takes about an hour or two to get another 20. Same thing with larval tears, you get like 20 per playthrough.

>>719849679
It's just autistic indecision

>>719843541
The only from-boss to make me leave and level up
He has my respect and doesn't afraid of anything

>>719849341
use fire you retard

>>719842208
The axe in the Roundtable Hold is just a decoration. Hoarah Loux's true strength was fighting with his bare hands and no armor. It was like surpassing the Red Bears (which his culture hunted, per the DLC) even at being bears.

>>719849965
none work since theyre all faith dominant.

>>719841849 (OP)
It's the Radahn fight in the basegame, genuine pure vidya kino, from the setup, to execution, moveset, spectacle and aftermath.

Arguably the 2nd best vidya boss of all time behind Gwyn.

>>719841849 (OP)
I hate him so much

Commander Gaius is hands down best boss in any From Software game

>>719841849 (OP)
He’s the most honest boss

>>719850378
False King Allant is better than both combined.....True King Allant is the actual GOAT but thats another story

>>719850467
I respectfully disagree

In terms of cinematics, Promised consort. Phase 1 of the OST is the best idea especially at 1:00-1:12 it sounds exactly like the star fall leviathan that obliterated the dinosaurs. Also 2:00 inwards sounds like a Roman unit charging into battle.

>>719850532
respectfully you're wrong

this is true kino and what Miyazaki has lost in his dotage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pgRm1hyNvM

>>719849594
>elden beast
>not piss easy
You're a shitter

>>719851014
>Ranni tranny

yikes

>>719851014
Harder than Radagon and you projecting shitters love that 30 second fight solved by jumps

Midra and Rellana > everything else

>>719850147
That's not how damage negation works.

>>719841849 (OP)
After playing Silksong, Elden Ring bosses just seem so lame.

>>719851120
Deranged retard
>>719851193
Maliketh is shit and easy, gideon is shit and easy, godfrey is shit and easy, radagon is shit and easy, elden beast is shit and easy. Elden ring has the worst final sequence in fromsoft's catalogue and it's not close
>A PILE OF SHIT IS BETTER THAN A STEAMING PILE OF SHIT!
This is your mindset, you are clearly mentally stunted and bad at the game.

>>719851368
faith build is trial and error vs Rad and Marika, its not difficult but still stupid and more difficult since youre "supposed" to play as an atheist Ranni int build

>>719851368
>ALL THE BOSSES ARE SHIT!!!
>YOU'RE SHIT!!!
>THIS GAME IS SHIT!!!!!11
Feel any better after that tantrum, retard?

>>719851316
Rellana has the difficulty but she has no presentation (fucking boring wet box room, zero cutscenes, zero relevance)

Midra has godly presentation but is an absolute pushover, you need to be extremely underpowered to enjoy it

No boss in the dlc has that 10/10 dlc spark besides Bayle

>>719849679
It is a 200 hour game with the DLC, there is no reason at all to limit access to upgrades in any way given that there are many good weapons for any build, and that is outside of respecs.
It is too long to not play around with a diverse set of weapons.

>>719851756
>Bayle
I can explode this faggot before he enters phase 2

>>719847195
Something so Herculean and greek myth inspired would have been fitting for a second phase.

>>719841849 (OP)
the one that doesn't have magnetic spinning, air redirection, has no AOE that comes out of nowhere just to cover up otherwise easily punishable attack (like trolls and their sword reaching BEHIND THEM) and that can be hit/seen while locked on. So like.... none of them? There's zero "you can see it - you know how to dodge it" design in the game.

>>719843390
because online retards tried their best to convince us it's From's best game since DS1 and "you just need to learn to play it"

>>719847195
>>719851863
From is extremely cheap in their cutscenes budget, they just tend to have good camera work and tricks to make it look good, but ER was kinda uninspired with it, same thing with the starting game cutscene after the grafted scion loss.

>>719844325
"the sense of victory" is compeltely internal and player dependant. Never felt that "sense of victory" in any of their games, felt it in hollow knight and nine sols

>>719847013
Man back when we complained about Capra Demon being recicled we didn't know how good we had it.

>>719851963
just add jumping and running to your defensive options and stop rolling around like a shitter

>>719843581
Absolutely based. luv me me, simple as.

>>719849679
There's absolutely no reason to limit the amount of weapons you can upgrade to max once you've beaten NG. You should be allowed to try anything you want at full power if you have the runes for it

>>719849679
>Game is as long as a bible if you play blind
>Duuh, let's just limit these upgrade items because reasons

>>719852085
i honest did zero jumping in ER, i mean fuck off its bullshit and not feasible logically, make blocking more important again

>>719852085
ah yeah jump attacks cause they help so fucking much. They totally stop enemies from instahitting you the moment you dare to press r1 cause they are filthy input readers with combo extentions. I fucking loved margit and crucible constantly doing the side dagger/tail spin the moment i attempt to do a single attacks. It also doesn't help that VAST majority of jumpable attacks are fucking VERTICAL PARTICLE aoes that clearly hit you during jump animations, meanwhile majority of horizontal slashes that don't visually clip you - clip you.

Game clearly wasn't designed around jumping attacks at all. You only disagree if you are autististic fromdrone enough to try jumping every single attack in the game at least once, or better thrice to make sure.
Or if you are a filthy cheater who looked up boss guides, idk which of those is more shameful.

>>719849521
Correct. You watched the game play itself.

>>719841849 (OP)
HH BROTHER

>>719850046
Yeah no lmao

>>719852039
that just means you never got souls games.
what's your point?

>>719852464
>i mean fuck off its bullshit and not feasible logically

>>719852965
i mean jumping around in a medieval game is gay, Sekiro or Bloodborne ok fine but just make blocking good in your medieval style line of games

>>719844331
Cutting the mimic tear quest was a shit decision.

>>719849679
Because DS1 and DS2 had unlimited titanite slabs.

Fighting Malenia with dryleaf kicks was super fun
Hope the dryleaf arts make it into nightreign as a character :)

>>719853108
You know what it didn't have? Unlimited Twinkling Titanites

>>719852854
my point is that you can be proud of any accomplishment regardless of how shit the design is. The game did no part, it was your upbringing or therapist or something

>>719853184
or the games you like totally ripped off Miyazaki so when you went back and played them you were too numb and dumb to tell the difference

>>719853184
So you point is just that you are a crybaby calling things shit for no reason?
why did you even enter the thread lmao

>>719852464
>>719852610
>>719852743
Pure shitters
>NOOOOOOO JUMPING ISN'T FEASIBLE
>NOOOOOOOOO JUMPING ISN'T FEASIBLE: TL;DR EDITION
>NOOOOOOO NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO CAST SPELLS AND ROLL BACKWARDS LIKE A RETARD!!!
really pathetic shit, this is why spirit ashes are in the game

>>719853389
>meme responses

this is why jumping is in the game

>>719853252
ah yeah, the studio that still has input que, somehow added input lag, and can't even remotely match visuals to hitboxes are clearly the expert masters of their craft unmatched by people who have remotely basic understanding of game design.

Also fromsoft being clear carbon copy of zelda/castlevania/monster hunter/resident evil and literally not being special in their nintendo hard difficulty

Fromsoft is still making Wolfenstains when everyone else already figured out Doom

>>719841849 (OP)
Omen at the bottom of the sewers, rhino rider, Morgot with a rapier.

>>719842143
Is this even English?

>>719853441
>mind broken retard parrots its betters
poor shitter, did you know that when Radagon does his mid-phase stomp you can just jump it for free damage?
The follow up hammer slam from the air? Back up and jump for free damage.
The big late-fight triple slam? Jump in for free damage
if you aren't a shitter

>>719853620
This is a variant of brain rot slang

>>719853636
that "free damage" isn't remotely free of risks and is somehow less valuable than already shit parrying. Dying in two hits is too high of a cost for that type of tomfoolery

>>719853636
ok but i dont want to

>>719853863
>I can't do it
>I'd rather parry, but that's shit too!!
>I don't level vigor
shitter
>>719853915
I hope you're standing on your magic circle then

>>719851368
lol indian rage is so funny

>shitter
this is not a competitive game timmy
any fighting game is 100x harder than elden slop

i'd rape you in +R btw

>>719844331
The Mimic Tear knows how to respond to and replicate what you're wearing and wielding, it has enough of a mind.

>shitter rages itself into a (You) deprivation fit
>shitter shits itself about some tranny fighter
glad I wasn't born retarded

>>719845398
The broken axe only broke during the Long March, it was Godfrey's axe upon becoming Godfrey. Serosh would have probably fought with his bare claws or a hammer, based on the Beastclaw Greathammer weapon. The Roundtable Hold has decorative weapons meant to represent Godfrey and the Crucible Knights swearing to serve the Erdtree, hence why the decorations all have branch motifs.

>>719841849 (OP)
It's Divine Beast

>>719844387
everyone who responds negatively to you is just salty their status build became 50% less effective against the big space whale

>>719853620
>newfag doesnt know about the Shazam meme

>>719841849 (OP)
Could he have beaten the outer space whale?

>>719843702
It's actually Elden Queen Tiche

>>719841849 (OP)
the only thing souls-like bosses have going for them is spectacle
so yeah, that's definitely the one with the most spectacle

>>719843541
Never did this fight without the summons. This is the only boss where I felt that was the natural way to play given the festival and having all the signs visible in the arena

>>719856952
Only if his grab worked.

>>719853184
>game challenges you greatly and forces you to make an effort to overcome it
>"that just means the game replaced your parents or was your therapy bro"

what did he mean by this?

>>719856203
no, that axe IS a beast weapon. it has the same decorations.
>purely decorative
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