Thread 719846336

Can someone please fucking tell me where the fuck Sherma is??????????????
I haven't seem him since I took this screenshot, I'm doing greymoor right now, but then I saw a screenshot here of him in a place I have been to before.
Did I miss him? Am I fucked? Help.

>>719846336 (OP)
>Did I miss him? Am I fucked? Help.
No, he'll arrive at the bell village eventually. Just keep playing.

I legitimately don't know what to do against Widow phase 2. If it's not the angled bells killing me it's just straight contact damage dodging into her. If it's not that it's her stupid multi hit slash that pulls you in somehow.

Dude the fucking bird gauntlet room can die in a fire holy fuck that took me a dozen fucking tries. And fuck the giant fly boss too.

>>719846828
Use. Your. Tools.

>>719846720
Learn to stand between where the bells land.
Don't dodge into her, jump and float.
Pogo off her slash attack, it ensures you don't get caught.

I'm Kinda lost.
I got locked doors everywhere at Deep Docks
I have that one boss left at Marrow but I have a slight suspicion that I need dash to beat him beause after 1 hour trying simply truning around from his attack just doesnt move me far enough from him.
I dont really know where to next
Do I try to go further right from Deep Docks?

>>719846929
Go explore Deep Docks fully.
Then go right, not back left.
You'll know you did right..

So I paid for the bench in Sinner's Road next to Shakra, but talked to her before it popped and now it's stuck going up and down without actually activating. Even turning off the game doesn't fix it. Is this supposed to be like this?

I'm up to phase FOUR on Moorwing and this NIGGER will not FUCKING DIE. HOW MUCH HEALTH DOES THIS STUPID FAGGOT BOSS HAVE, HE TAKES LONGER TO KILL THEN GRIMM I CAN'T BEAT HIM EVEN WITH THE TRAPS AND THE NPC AAAAAAAAAAH

>>719846336 (OP)
i have reached the far field, ands o far nothing really difficult, maybe it get harder later for now nothing crazy, although I have to say that I played megaman zero last week, so maybe be that lol

>>719846929
If you're talking about the Unknown Knight as the boss in Marrow, go to the next platform down from his, and free the little bug from jail. There's an tool up above his cell that makes the fight a lot easier

I just unlocked swift step and game is really opening up. Damn this feels good

something that makes me really happy is that hornet says 'fren' when she heals :)

>>719846336 (OP)
i found him next after my second time at pilgrim's rest, he's outside the bench building driving the tired lady to an hero with his singing which is pretty funny

>you get fucking kidnapped like the bag people from BB
FUCK

>been playing for like 6 hours
>have the sprint
>have the silkspear
>1 spool fragment/silk heart
>made it all the way to the bell station in far fields
>still no wall climb
where the fuck is it? there's still spots i haven't explored because there's no way to reach without it

>>719847240
SPOILERS YOU FUCKING TARD

I have the parachute dress, I have the midair dash, I am fucking sick of Hunter's March and especially the Chapel of the Beast. Is there anywhere new I can go that doesn't involve trying to hop onto red fruit?

>>719847278
>I am fucking sick of Hunter's March and especially the Chapel of the Beast.
Why are you doing an optional area meant for late-game gear?

Is this game fine for someone who hasn’t played the original? A lot of people are saying it was meant as DLC and it’ll be too hard otherwise.

>>719847094
>>719847140
nvm I just found the ant place

>>719847403
It's not hard, the bar is too low these days.

>>719847443
That's an optional area.

>>719847403
i didnt played the original and im having fun

>>719847443
get outta there while you can

what area are anons in now?

Just beat Widow. What a piece of shit that P2 is.
So far the only bosses I've one-shot are the first one and Fourth Chorus. I'm having fun though. The only thing that bothers me is I don't know if these goddamn quests have a fail state. HK had very few "missable" things but it didn't have zero.

>>719847119
Help me PLEASE

>>719847567
Have you equipped the Reaper crest?

>>719847395
>Why are you doing an optional area meant for late-game gear?
Not him but that was like the third place I went and it made me stop playing because I got sick of dying due to not being able to pan the screen down and jumping into spikes then having to do a long, boring runback.

I don't want to go to sinner's road i'm getting my ass kicked there and can't find the map

Where else can I go, if I have the violin and wall jump?

Finally I can play the game

>>719847670
>man this wall is tough
>maybe if i bash my head against it enough times it'll give!
>ow, why is this hurting so much? this sucks
You people astound me sometimes.

>>719847726
where is that im going to kiill myself im FUCKING lost the level design IS WORSE THAN HK

>>719847556
Just got done with the righthand area in Greymoor. Those birds that i hate. The challenge room was a something else, almost threw on the last enemy as well. Sleep time now been playing for ~9 hours.

where do i upgrade my needle bros

>>719847726
Now we Spider-Woman for real.

>>719847119
Where is that boss? I explored the whole zone where it should be in and haven't found it.

>>719846336 (OP)
4:30 in and I feel like I've basically cleared the lava area.
Getting that one flea child at the top of the map was a ballbuster.
I've got one berry left to find somewhere in the garden area, so I guess next session I'll have to mess with that and finish it all off before moving on.
The pumpkin pogo stuff wasn't as bad as I've seen some people say. Once you get the first one, just hold your hands still and keep pressing jump and you'll basically just zoom across.

>>719847726
WHERE IS IT

>>719846336 (OP)
So, just got the first nail upgrade... My damage seems to be the same as before? Weak enemies still take 3 hits to kill.
Also, just got my first key, what door should I use it on, Deep Docks or the one behind the acid spewing fucker

You DID progress Gilly's questline before you beat the 4th Chorus, didn't you?

>>719847846
Tippy top of the green area past the bell place IIRC.

>>719847735
Are you really so fucking stupid that you can't tell the difference between hard and fun and something that's just tedious? Bouncing on the red flowers was nice because it was some actual fucking movement tech which the game desperately needs early on. None of the enemies are tough. It's just annoying hitting spikes because any time I jump down there's no real way to redirect the fall once I'm finally in view of what's below me. Now if you reply I want you to try really hard to actually read what I said instead of being a braindead monkey who tries to reformulate my words into some variation of "The area was too hard".

>>719847119
Moorwing in Greymoor is supposed to be hard on purpose because they offer two ways for you to bypass the boss.

1) talk to the explorer dude and he'll assist you in the boss fight
2) gather 5 fleas and when offered a ride say yes and you'll get to skip the fight entirely.

>>719847403
This is the first platformer I've played in actual years, and it is fairly hard, but honestly not that bad. You'll adjust to what it demands of you. I'll go back and play the first game after this to see exactly how much harder this was than that. But for now, I don't feel like I'm overwhelmed as a total noob.
Just accept that you'll probably be a broke bitch because you drop your money on death and you get one shot at retrieving it. If you suck, you're going to be broke and not be able to buy much without dedicated farming time.

aids incarnate. im hating the bosses so far besides lace and 4th chorus. is there a charm somewhere that makes pogoing easier because i cannot get the hang of this diagonal shit

>>719847395
>meant for late-game gear
???
The shit thing about that area is that that one enemy is annoying and there's no bench anywhere, what do you mean late game

They're absolutely going to die right?
It's just like the crystal cave bug girl in Hollow Knight

>>719848032
Oh so that why I never did or found that boss, I did the fleas quest.

>you can gamble
Oh boy

>>719847908
Acid spewing fucker gives you access to the wormways and the Wanderer Crest. Wander Crest gives you down pogo and way faster attack than standard Crest.

No idea what's behind the Docks, but there is another Simple Key in the Graymoor. It is a pay to enter shop if you are coming from the Far Fields

>flying ant and the sword ant
Holy shit, what the fuck is even going on

>>719848104
>this enemy takes only 60 hits to defeat, back in my day they took 600!
Okay gramps, time for bed.

>>719848101
All of the fun boss fights so far are the ones that don't spam projectiles or other enemies.

>>719847796
bellhart, after removing the curse

>>719848101
Try going back to Bone Bottom and get to the other side of the chasm above it. When you reach a new area, go down.

>>719846336 (OP)
>Take 7 years to release a game
>It's full of bugs

>>719848129
>they
He is a boy.

Wanderer crest is so good compared to anything else. Make platforming and pogo way better. Why isn't that the default crest?

>>719847403
I would recommend playing the original first because the systems in this one are a progression of those old systems but you can totally just play the new one if you want to join in it'll just be a bit harder for you but not much harder

>>719848101
See
>>719848182
It's a crest not a charm and it gives you The Knight's downward pogo.

>>719848101
What are you even struggling with?
Her slam attacks are piss easy to dodge.

The Hunter's March boss fight is pissing me the fuck off. It's an endless bullet hell of bullshit. Fuck.

Okay, I got Bone Bottom, Marrow, Deep Docks, Far Fields, and Hunter's March unlocked. Where do I go now?

>>719848101
reaper crest in greymoor gives you downwards pogo

>>719848223
it's pretty clear enemies in this game are meant to be tanky

tranny game for faggots

>>719848204
Buy the sharpening tool from the forge lady, and in the Graymoor payshop buy the extended mag, it will give you 50% more knives. Just dash to the far side of the guantlet arena, and throw your knives at the sword ant, jumping to dodge the flying ant's spears. Sword ant should melt pretty quickly then you can clean up that last add.

>>719847704 here

I found another area and it's as fucking hard as the other one

I feel so fucking weak, the dail has shit range and does no damage

>>719848182
Already got some of wormways started, don't "need" the crest for pogo because I'm using the Reaper Crest, so my pogo has a big AOE. I might check out deep docks then

Bit of a difficulty spike in this area but this part was awesome. Shakra basically carried.

3 hours logged but I have to go to bed. Sad

>>719848368
clear far fields and unlock greymoor, then shellwood

>>719848395
You can have her fight with you???

>>719848317
Nta, but sometimes you just get stuck in a scenario where you get stunlocked toward the end by the vines + adds and just die.

>>719848395
>knocks out the ninja ant in like three hits when he takes like 7 hits
Seriously carried.

>>719848454
Yeah, far fields is dope, really fun to explore. Plus you get glide which is a nice movement ability

Really bothers me how you have to give up a ‘whole’ slot for the Compass. I know you had to give up a bit of space in HK as well, but this feels different.

>>719848456
I suppose you gotta buy our her entire stock first. At least thats what i did and she shoed up for me.

what do you think about reaper crest?
I find it easier to pogo with

>>719847768
>>719847935
Shellwood after the boss

>>719848383
Damn, would have liked to learn that before I lost all my beads in this area. Thanks for the information.

>>719848582
Downward attack is a big improvement, I like that focusing gives you little orbs to collect after hitting enemies to build silk faster. It feels better than the default too.

>>719848540
You can unlock more slots on your crests later. Different crests have different amounts of slots. If you are still using your starting crest then you don't really need any other exploration charm since there really aren't any good ones that early in the game. Maybe the Moss Druid's but that is dependant on you getting hit and doesn't do much to help.

>>719848540
I mean you don't have to. I just got to the docks and I chose the magnet over the compass for pretty much that entire time. Once I bought everything that was cheap I switched to the compass for exploration. I think you're meant to switch them often at benches depending on the situation

>>719848395
>Shakra basically carried.
All she did for me was make it hard to see. Do people really find any of those enemies hard? I'd rather have solo'd them.

>>719846336 (OP)
Where is badass map seller lady in Greymoor? I feel like I skipped half that area.

>>719848489
>vines and adds
how, they die to 1(one) spear cast

>>719848646
Sharpening tool gives all your subweapons +50% damage and the pouch is +50% stock. There is another tool that gives subweapons a poison proc too.

Ahem, fuck Moorwing. That is all.

>>719848723
literally just to the right from the point you come up from

>>719848582
It's ok but wandered is better imo

>>719848723
right side

>>719848723
on ther right from the wind tunel exit

>rest at bonebottom bench
>skull tyrant stampedes through town
Good thing I'd already fought the motherfucker for a quest so I knew how to deal with a sudden boss battle. Bench is busted now though.

>>719848664
I just realized that I had an item to do that the whole time lol

>>719848582
the extra range is super useful and so is the extra silk

>>719848737
I .... never used it ....
I planned on trying the boomerang on my last attempt, but beat the boss crazy fast my last attempt, and didn't even get to try it.

>>719848696
They aren’t hard but Shakra was covering the screen and it was hard to see what was going on so I just let her do most of the work while I threw daggers.
Enemies are only hard if you run into two of them while low like the group right after this. I haven’t found a bench in this area at all so if I die I have to run all the way back.

>>719848723
Entering greymoor from Far Fields immediately head right. As soon as you see the rings on the ground follow them and they will lead straight to her.

>>719848895
Oh, then yes I agree about everything you said.

I LOVE LATEGAME SPIKES THAT DO TWO CONTACT DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>719848849
You are nerfing yourself by not using the spear, it's super strong.
I'm sure a good chunk of the people complaining about bosses never use it.

>>719846336 (OP)
>Constantly flying off-screen
>Take 4-6 hits

Bravo, devs. Jolly good design.

Should I fuck up my sleep schedule and play all night, or just go to bed?

I want to keep playing, but I know I will regret it tomorrow.

Explain this shit.
Beat 2 bosses and found no crests

I FUCKING HATE TRAPS

I killed the big bug thing trapped in the web, that later turned out to be the transport
I don't get what it dropped though. it said something about silk hearts and made it sound like I'd automatically regen silk, but it didn't change anything

>>719849046
sleep, you'll remember more of the game that way

>>719848456
She didn't helped you?

>>719849084
You do, you equip it and you gain silk.

>>719849057
sexplore more dumbo, try to get to places

>>719849121
Nope, had to do it all myself.

>>719846336 (OP)
Is the game as long as the first one?

>>719849084
it's an upgrade that makes you autoregen a minimum of silk

>>719849057
first one I got was in greymoor
you cant get one earlier in hunter's march but it's not advisable

There we go

>>719849084
You start with a segment of silk on the spool now

>>719849185
you can get two before Greymoor

I played Hollow Knight and just finished the last boss yesterday.

I did it with a normal controller. The Switch 2 Pro controller.
I just changed what controller I'm using to pic related, and it's like I'm magically 40% better at the game. I actually feel like I can controller the character.

Playing this game with a joy stick feels awful.

>>719849169
it's been out for a day, how would we know?

I spent an hour looking for those fucking purple flowers and THIS is my reward?!

Are there only 4 crests? Haven't found one in a good while. And found only a single crest upgrade (reaper one)

>>719849185
You can get one right at the start of the game in the Abandoned chapel.

>>719849152
Big if true, would have been a lot easier without her flying all over the place.

Is the kety of the apostate actually in the Slab?
Seems I checked everywehere, even the Die Hard vents.

>>719849229
sounds good, how strong is it?

Anyone gotten to the citadel yet?

>>719849229
It's really good. When you start getting more tools for your traps your knives end up becoming nasty little things that eat boss healthpools.

>>719849142
>>719849185
Its my achievements. Just explain how every fifth player beat 2 bosses, but only every 20th found a single crest. I refuse to believe it.

AAAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK
FUCK YOU TEAM CHERRY

>>719849325
at least it was an easy one shotable boss

FREN

What's the /v/-approved crest?

>>719849368
THAT DOESN'T MAKE THIS OKAY
I LIKED THIS BUG

SKULL TYRANT IS A NIGGER
NIGGER

NIGGER!

>>719849467
Wanderer for exploration, reaper for bosses

>>719849303
The bosses you fought are literally story bosses you have to kill to progress.
Crests are locked behind a) optional areas most don't bother finding and b) fairly difficult boss battles.
For example one crest you can only get after you got the cape upgrade (aka defeated 4th Corus) and explore Hunter's March which is an optional area.

>>719849470
They will do a funeral for him, don't forget to play your instrument there to get extra stuff.

GOTY

>>719849303
Aren't Steam achievements on launch day just asspull guesses until the servers actually catch up and calculate the real percentages later?

Is there a quicker runback (or at least a shorcut) to Last Judge? Sick of having to platform and deal with the flies

Where do you get the needolim ? And what the fuck does it do?

>target shooting minigame
zeldabros...

>>719849578
I don't think so, got tired of the runback and found another about entrance to the citadel.

>>719849229
I dunno, poison on all your rogue tools sounds great.

>>719849467
Wanderer for everything.

i'm just going to have to go through this playthrough assuming everything terrible will happen and i'll fuck up every quest
i'm at sister splinter and i haven't seen the little singing bug in a while
i failed to rescue the guy in the jail
surely everything will go to ruin and i'll miss the coolest stuff
it's ok it's just playthrough 1. it's ok.

>>719849589
after wall jump, enter bellhart from shelwood and beat the boss

it opens doors

I keep skipping past posts the second I see locations named or spoilered out stuff. I dont even bother reading the non spoilered post
That's how much I'm trying trying to avoid things
But it's crazy to see how open ended the game feels right out of the gate. Everyone seems to be talking about greymore, which I havent even visited yet
I basically went
>Bottom bone > marrow > deep docks > far fields > just now in hunter's ass
I don't know if I'm behind, I don't think I am, cause I played for 7h today, or just took a path not many seem to take
Traversal is very fun, especially after getting the dashsprint. It's a joy to run around the world, even though I'm bad at the platforming and have jumped several times into lava

>>719849570
The game already has nude mods?

that safe with a trap in hunters march diabolical ngl

i want to play this game but i feel like will lose if i actually buy it

>he hasn't found the Moss Mother rematch

holy shit anon, what are you doing??

>>719849789
tell me where it is

Am i rusty or is this game hard as fuck?

Why doesn't Hornet ask for her Brother to kill everything in sight

>>719849578
yeah, I don't think I'm beating this fucker like this

>>719849807
It ramps up faster than the first did, but you're probably rusty too.

>>719849753
There are several nude scenes. First one is in Far Fields.

Hornet is, how you say, rather libertine and comfortable in her own exoskeleton.

>>719849803
moss grotto, black area, need needolin
>>719849807
it's hard

when does void come into play

So how does the Evolved Hunter crest work? Doesn't seem like it boosts your damage at all

>>719849807
Prolly a little of both desu

Was I supposed to go past the big guy before going into the deep docks or do I have to buy the magma bell to get past all these sections that are just dead ends with lava?

bro my fingers hurt from all the platforming at hunters march

>>719849706
Could you even rescue the guy from jail?

>>719849904
You can see it fill up on the top left off the HUD, the semi circle.

>>719849841
I could live with fighting the boss if I didn't have to run through flies that spawn directly in your path

>>719849737
>it opens doors
thats it?

>>719849953
I noticed that, but everything still dies in the same amount of hits

>>719849592
How does that work? I think I found it, but it wouldn’t start

playing the game but it’s the exact same thing as the first one

i’m a gay midget exploring caves
waiting to pass missions to unlock better moves
waiting to pass missions to unlock better gear
waiting to pass missions to unlock more areas
waiting to pass missions to buy stuff

it’s literally the silksong 1.5
this game would’ve ended up on miniclip 20 years ago

>>719849939
You can break the door down. The knives are right above him. If you neglected to free him and come back later the door is broken, and he isn't there any more.

>>719849571
that's a good idea. So people who bought a key for 500 beads are way more than 5%

i'm going to bed
i think ive done everything i can do pre citadel except for the stuff that requires whatever is needed for the grappling rings everywhere and three simple locks

>>719849807
>hollow knight
>start with 5 hp, only rare enemies two 2 dmg
>silksong
>start with 5, half the enemies do two dmg, hornet's gameplay is high risk high reward

>>719849986
yeah, it opens certain doors with the weaver face, and you need it to enter the citadel

>>719849930
Bell lets you walk on hot coals. You'll need the sprint to get over those lava jumps.

>>719849903
Hornet is made of void

>>719849926
ToT

I’ve noticed I began to rush through things which means its time for me to go to bed. I’ll probably wake up to you faggots spamming the final boss by the time I wake up but whatever

The movement is a lot more fun in this game than the first, thank god

>>719850063
You don't need it, you can bunnyhop across the hot coals like those jumping giraffe bugs. That's what I did lol. Just make sure you don't jump in the no shit actually lava.

>>719850023
it has a sprint button! and it's challenging from the get go. Also no spike bouncing for fucking hours.

>this game would’ve ended up on miniclip 20 years ago
Yeah.. yeah i agree. World of Goo/Fez/Minecrap all started as shitty flash games , zoomers love mobage tier gameplay so... we have no metroids and no castlevanias, just garbage like mediocre slop knight and silksong

Holy hell Savage Beastfly was hard as fuck. The Crest you get from him seems like it fucking sucks too.

>>719847119
Are you guys for real? I’m not going to lie, it took me like a solid 8-10 tries but it’s a very doable fight

did anyone figure out wtf this room is for

the combat crests changing your pogo is straight up a mistake

Why is every area Path of Pain now?

>>719850023
I don't recall any 30 hour metroidvanias on miniclip

WHAT THE FUCK

>>719850342
clearly you played the shit games

>>719850296
One of Gilly's observation rooms if you managed to progress her quest

>>719850332
my corpse wirh 900 rosaries is in that area and i need to get back to it all the way from the tavern in greymoor

>>719849023
not as annoying as the throwing knife birds in greymoor
horrible creatures, especially in that arena section

>>719850056
>high reward
>do absolutely fuck all damage and half of all enemies have huge anti-knockback animations and attacks
I don't think you're using that phrase right.

is this guy worth fighting? im still really early (only fought 1 boss)

>>719850395
You know, banking beads on rosary chains isn't that bad of an idea. You lose 20% of your beads, but you get to keep the other 80% safe for when you need it.

>>719849983
>a THIRD phase
WHY

>>719850273
yeah it kinda blows

neat

>>719850363
Where is a cartographer girl? She suppose to help you beat this room.

When do i get to use these fucking things

>>719850441
no, you only get ammo

>>719850441
Not really, he drops an item that lets you get 140 shards. He is pretty easy just stand under the platform wait for him to puke and then hit him once or twice and repeat. It tales a long ass time though because he has a million HP.

That mooring isn’t to hard but it’s pretty unforgiving, like a split second decision is 2 masks lost or fucking him up

>>719850509
You use them to rebuild stuff in the starting town and to refill sub-weapons.

>>719850494
uhh i didnt know that so how do i spawn her

>>719850509
refills your tools as you use them

>>719850441
Can you actually kill him?

>>719850509
When you get your tools

>>719850509
You will constantly be full of these unless you spam the shit out of your tools.

>>719850541
fucking lame the fleas make you skip this boss entirely

Is literally boss after the giant robot fight just dark souls dlc tier difficulty? I’m getting pretty sick of it desu

>>719850584
Huh?

Anyone got through sinners road? is there anything good in there?

>>719850553
Yes

>>719850559
Tools are good, you should be using them.

Do you guys think Tc are gonna nerf some bosses

>>719850591
more like elden ring

>>719850550
I dont know, did you talk to her? Did you bought all her items? Did you meet her a few times? Did you talked to her in the starting town?

>>719847119
When do I encounter Moorwing?

>>719850273
That fucker almost filtered me. It was nice of them to put that crest on automatically so you can whiff a few jumps with that fucky down strike on the way back.

>>719850658
Graymoor

>>719850609
I hope they fix the currency thingy and make the enemys be less miserable they have about 50000 hp and they run away constantly, NOT FUN

>>719850439
The devs obviously anticipated most players to be used to Hollow Knight. You have to have a lot of technique to pilot hornet effectively

>>719850596
if you take the flea wagon before fighting boss you permanently skip this boss

i had enough fleas before even entering greymoor so i never knew

>enter city
>oh wait wrong direction
>the second I enter the city leave the screen
>briefly see the singing guy chilling in the half second of screen transition
>go back
>he is gone
NOOOOOOOOOO

>>719849807
Healing being an uncancelable animation really hurts.

there sure is a lot of retarded shit in this game

It's so exciting. There's no footage of the final boss anywhere and all the endings are just datamined cutscenes. There are so many mysteries.

>>719850731
are you having fun?

>>719850703
Use a bell that sheilds you when healing.

>>719850731
blast them with knives after entering the room

>>719850703
You can get an item in the Deep Docks that gives you i-frames during part of your healing. It's really nice

>>719850739
I love launch day threads.

>Blasted Lands
>platforming on a game with dogshit platforming

not again fuck off

>lost over 200 beads in the first hours of the game
brb killing myself

Just found the Reaper moveset, cant help but ask how many of those there are
Also is there a godhome equivalent? I have t know some of these guys would suck if i only got to fight them once

>ACT 2
> CITADEL OF SONG
it's fucking happening

>>719850892
Seriously I lost 300

>>719850778
That thing is shit and just saves you from getting hit, you still use up your silk and get no heal, it’s a shitty shell

Dafuck? Did I just miss out on the moorwing boss by moving the fleas? Or am I misremembering where I encountered him?

fungal wastes when

>>719850739
god if these early game bosses are giving anons a hard time imagine the final boss

EVEN THE FUCKING SPIKES ARE DOING 2 POINTS OF DAMAGE NOW

>>719849807
Ive died a few times, but I think a game needs a punishment beyond time loss to be truly difficult. Silksong has less penalty for dying than even Hollow Knight

>>719850395
I just found a bench along the way. It's in the vertical shaft with cages and two flying roach keepers on the left. Costs 60.
This place fucking sucks

>>719851004
The Magmar....

>>719850957
It actually lasts a bit longer than the heal animation and deals damage, so if you time it right it's actually a nuke

>>719846336 (OP)
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Where is the downward spike?

>>719851004
I think they really over did most of the stuff doing two masks worth of damage, wouldn’t be surprised if they made everything in act 1 do 1 mask

>>719851068
Nevermind, the bench is fucking broken so I just got scammed

anyone else going >poorfag in silksong. I don’t remember the last time I had any rosaries and I’ve gone through 3 areas without a map

>40 seconds just to get to hunters march from the rest spot
>an area with a gauntlet of shitty platforming, enemies with way too much health, zero checkpoints, and incredibly difficult to avoid traps that will take 2 health if they hit

Wow this area is so much fun

Are there any zones you can find yourself in early on that you're definitely not equipped to do until later?

This one seems quite a bit harder than Hollow Knight, and I've gotten decent at that game already, so it's kind of hard to tell.

I killed the boss with the bone axe. Now I'm doomed to just keep doing the same jumping puzzle repeatedly until I get to a room where a single mob is spawned and some random npc is helping me fight duplicate enemies. I need to get better. The first couple of bosses where easy.

>>719851140
please god its not fun

I’m gonna be butthurt if I really locked myself out of some thief bug questline because I didn’t realize I could break his door down

oh boy a quest where Hornet sniffs aromatic dung to track things down!

game being too hard can't be a negative anymore

>>719851168
>Are there any zones you can find yourself in early on that you're definitely not equipped to do until later?
no

>>719851168
The ant area is very clearly intended for later but low IQ mongrels simply HAVE to bruteforce their way through.

the entire game is so pretty and then you meet the blacksmith who looks like he was drawn by a little kid

>>719851182
Damn I might actually start paying attention to quests now

Holy shit Moorwing filtered me.

Hornets command run is such a neat take on the obligatory metroidvania dash
I'm sure every option will have some use except for the backflip that shit seems useless, less height than even a normal jump

>>719850332
>>719850395
>>719851068
wher is the cartographer in that area? is it easy to find?

>>719851275
bad level design

>>719851196
especially when games that aren't too hard just don't have the mechanical depth to be fun.

There's a middle ground here that I'm searching for.
Not to say that I don't like a hard game, but it's just a bit exhausting after a while of nothing else.

>>719850963
Can anyone help me with this? I don't wanna miss out on a cool fight. Did this not happen to anyone else?

>>719851297
follow the signs with a bench he is in the same room

>>719851296
The movement is this games saving grace. It has the best movement I’ve ever seen in a metroidvania but everything else is really annoying or tedious

People shit on nu-souls for the hilarious amount of bonfires but they're 100% in the right boss runbacks are dogshit

>>719851154
Go down and do the right, that’s a trap area

>>719851275
>>719851306
Hardly, thats the nature of the game
You can sneak into some shit youre absolutely not supposed to in the original game, the freedom is the fun part

>>719851297
Same room as the broken bench

>>719851354
they will fix everything next patch, just wait.

>>719851343
hmm, i tried following the signs and it lead me to a dead end, I will try again, thanks

>>719851336
Yeah, I think doing the fleas quest first skips the boss

Come the fuck on

>>719851291
It gets better, also put on the reaper crest, makes it so you don’t even have to jump to hit it just up slash

does she go SHAW at all???

Is this sequence break possible without powerups? I tried to use the silk attack backwards but it doesn't push enough.

>>719851275
I can't really tell what should be "clearly intended for later"
It was mildly more difficult than the previous area, but given that my only sample size is the tutorial zone, and the Marrow, it's hard to tell when something's unreasonable.
Also, game hard. how tell when too hard?

The only point where I thought I really shouldn't be there was fighting that big thingy with the jump attack, slash attack, and burrow. Doing that without a dash just didn't seem right. Especially when you compare it to a similar miniboss from early on in Hollow Knight. Something like the lesser knights with the big club thing.

RING THE BELLS
FOR FUCKS SAKE RING EVERY BELL YOU SEE IN THE GAME OR YOU WILL REGRET IT LATER

>all the crying about difficulty
>even on /v/
Jesus fucking Christ. It well and truly isn't that hard.

you had to do a puzzle for picrel, not too hard but there's never been one in these games before. wondering what else they got in the future

>>719851506
Why

>>719851410
So there's just no way to see it then now? Fuck me

>>719851275
Or they could learn to make things hard as opposed to tedious. Tedium is not difficulty. Nothing there is hard, it's just annoying if you're there early.

>>719851275
You don't get any upgrades that make that zone easier mister high IQ

>>719851378
Hardly have to “sneak”

>>719851506
thanks anon-kun I’ll take your word for it :3

Anyone know how to get rid of the worms debuff?

>>719851514
not everyone spends an ungodly amount of time playing hard vidya, faggot.

>>719851514
It’s harder than base game ER

Glad they learned absolutely nothing from the first game and we still get big stretches of emptiness and platforms that lead nowhere.

WHEN WILL I BE ABLE TO USE MY NEEDLE TO SWING ON THE RING THINGIES

I STARTED ACT 2 ALREADY AND I STILL DON'T HAVE THIS POWER UP WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

AWOOOOOOOO!
I fucking love the fleas.
I'm gonna say it. Fleas > grubs

well 4 hours for today and 4 zones complete, feels good so far

>>719851518
what area, i dont want to miss puzzles

>>719851563
heal (just get rid of the worms and doesn't heal)

>>719851574
This used to be a board for enthusiasts who didn't play video games like a slack-jawed retard. Granted, I guess that was over a decade ago now.

>these invisible rock throwing pieces of shit
You gotta be fucking kidding me.

>>719851617
bottom right in far fields, need the harp thing to open the door

>>719851275
HAHAHAHAHAH WAIT NO HAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

LITERALL FLASH GAME FOR RETARDED ZOOMNIGGERS

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO OIH NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE LE ANTS

>>719851514
Tedium and poor design =/= difficulty. Though some are being filtered

>>719851621
Ah ok

>>719851574
Then why are you here??

IT FEELS LIKE I'M FIGHTING NIGHTMARE GRIMM WHAT THE FUCK

>>719851275
??????

if anything, having the dash just make it a little bit easier, but not necessary lol

Where do I buy simple keys? I bought one in the shop of the first town but I haven't seen them in the shops recently

>>719851506
What bells?

>>719851723
I said people are crying about difficulty because I see people crying about the various ways in which they're getting fucking owned. I hardly see anyone complaining about 'tedium,' just dying like retards.

>>719851514
is really not that hard, if anything just very precise, I love it because it remains me to megaman zero difficulty

>>719849570
pure sex

>>719846336 (OP)
hello, this game is not for me, bye

>>719850553
When do i get my tools?

>>719851825
i will say that exploring hunters march get a little bit tedious with all the platforming you have to do to go up or down

Moorwing is driving me insane

can i jump this gap? i've tried like 15 times. i've tried sprint jumping and bouncing off the bug. it feels like i could do it. why put the bug here if not to bounce off it?

>>719851894
Pogo in the moving bug

>>719851894
You can indeed but the thing behind it is locked behind a simple key so get that first

Is there a better place to farm rosaries than Mosshome?

im the only retard that hasn’t unlock the tool system? danm mi 4 hours in

>>719851546
There's no damage upgrades???? 4+ hit flying enemies are just a thing for the whole game???

>>719851942
>>719851943
i'd blow my brains out of i made it and didn't have the key. thanks

BROS ITS TOO HARD ITS TOO HARD BROS NOOO NOOO ITS TOO HARD I CANT BELIEVE THIS NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>719851546
>You don't get any upgrades that make that zone easier
You literally do in an area further in the game
The area you're currently in is OPTIONAL

>they pulled a soul master again
i give up

>>719851968
There are damage upgrades, you need to finish the Bellhart main quest

>>719851514
It’s not impossible hard but you gotta try. You’ll die here and there and some areas are harder than others. I expect there to be a boss or two that will actually be difficult.

>>719851518
There has to be more with those pressure plates, they have 4 settings depending on your speed. Maybe a secret combination or something

>>719851894
You can jump then dash

>>719851825
I see people complaining about tedium and poor pacing because the game is tedious and poorly paced. I didn't see a single hard fight while I was playing. I did get tired of hunter's march.

>>719852030
>>719851546
The dash is maybe like 6 or 7 rooms away its not that hard

>3 hits until death
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING

>>719850892
>>719850917
I lost 500 and still at the beginning, was saving to buy the key, got distracted, dies twice and now all gone

>>719852124
Don't get hit.

Took my day off to play it today. Already ordered some tasty food so I don’t need to cook anything.
10 hours sessions are the best!
And then I’m going to finish my day with fucking my best friend’s wife

>>719851518
Sprinting is already ungodly fast, don' know why you'd want to make it faster.

Holy shit. This game is at least three times as hard as Hollow Knight. I didn't expect to be continually ambushed, half of the enemies having a move that hits for two HP or bosses that give you 15 frames to react to what they are doing. I'm getting my ass kicked and loving it

>sharpened my weapon AND got a fourth mask shard
Oh yeah, now we're playing the game.

A lot of these bosses have waaay too fucking much health for how simple their move set is. All the two mask damage moves also feel like a crutch for this too, I guess they wanted to make this game harder since they expect most people played through Hollow Knight but they couldn't give the bosses more complicated attacks at the start since you just don't have the movement abilities to deal with them yet.

>>719850892
i lost something like a 120 something to one of those skull ants, i went to my restroom to cry a little.

>>719851514
/v/ has been casual central for more than a decade by now.

>>719852164
Show footage of you no-hitting Last Judge

>>719852075
>4 settings
lol
i cant figure it out either

>>719851968
lol lmao try 5 or 6

>>719852086
I've cleared six areas now and have had to do little to no backtracking. Maybe you have a retard's sense of direction?

>>719847403
people struggling probably havent played a game older than 2010

how do i earn money on this game i just lost 480 and i wanna kill myself, i CANT EARN SHIT what do I DO holy shit

>have to do a parkour challenge on the way to the boss
>spikes do two damage
>boss hits you for two damage
>get hit + contact damage = do it all over again
The two damage thing has to be an oversight, right?

>>719852228
TEkken fans told me that 15 frames are unreactable.

honestly I went to the ant area straight away and i didn't have much issues desu, the boss at the chapel took me a good few tries but that's about it. i dont understand what was so difficult about it

Genuinely can't believe how good this shit is. It's so fun watching people get filtered.

Sister splinter is making me lose my fucking mind

>>719851608
she makes a lotta noises but i haven't heard a SHAW yet (i have finished act 1)

>>719852336
surely, right? im only 2 hours into THE game.

>>719852292
I didn't say or even imply that backtracking was the source of tedium. Maybe you're just a complete fucking retard who's so angry at the idea of any criticism of the game that it destroys your ability to read and comprehend English.

>>719852349
Not everyone is a neet with 50k hours put in video games like you, anon.

>>719852321
go to the top of mosshome and kill the 3 crazy dudes over and over

So I've gotten two other crests so far, but am I the only one who prefers the original one?

>>719852360
Sister Splinter crushes her own adds so take advantage of that

>>719852349
question, do you have a good monitor?

>just a part of the day in
>get the bestiary
>almost halfway full already

>>719852349
>i dont understand what was so difficult about it
Are the people saying this just ESLfags who don't know what the word tedious means? It's not a synonym for hard.

>>719852385
You haven't said anything about what was tedious and poorly designed so I just took a swipe at the most common tard complaint.

>skip to the end of every 12 hour "full game walkthrough" video
>still only five masks and throwing knives
This is such a special feeling. Nobody has beaten this game yet.

>>719852347
anon... silksong animations last 24 frames, tekken runs at 60 frames

>>719852336
>>719852374
As someone who literally just beat Hollow Knight yesterday I haven't even noticed the 2 masks of damage.
That just feels like normal Radiance.

>>719852321
You can get 500 in like ten minutes with bench near mosshome

>>719851759
Best boss in the game for me. This thing makes sense once you stop trying to charge at it and just let it come to you. I kept getting hit when it did the wheel attack, but just staying back meant that it mostly wants to do the jump attack, which is a big punish moment for you.

God damn I know I should buy some map markers and mark locations I need to come back to...
But I wanna spend my beads on other shit!

>>719852349
The fucked up the pogo bounces, that’s what makes it annoying

>>719852428
Half of the game is walking back to the bosses lol. If this was HK-tier difficulty we would all be done with it by now and disappointed

>>719851759
you gotta play slow. in phase two, don't punish anything other than the jump (pogo when she lands, but don't spam it) and the slide dash (similar strategy). take tool damage where you can. most of all, take it REALLY slow

>>719852428
The trailer says "over 200 foes" and that first bestiary only goes up to 100 and specifies "Pharloom" so

>>719852506
maps and navigation tools>>>>>>>>>>>everything else

>>719852457
>okay you didn't say that but instead of reading the thread I decided to just put words in your mouth and also say backtracking is a common complaint even though literally no here here is complaining about it
Thanks for the reminder as to why all fanboys are invariably annoying retards.

>reach bird boss at the end of greymore
>get my ass whooped
>think "its a metroidvania, ill go explore for more hp/damage upgrades and come back later"
>circle back around the entire map
>reach the boss from the opposite side
>it despawns forever

what the fuck i wanted to kill it

The moorwing guy was only hard for a couple attempts, but unfortunately he was still a fat fuck you can pogo with some precision

>>719847140
I didn't release the bug from jail but came back later and he was gone

Did I miss something with him?
I just thought I needed to go buy or find the key

>>719851759
Act I of III, btw

>>719852402
>>719852473
Currency grinding in a metroidvania is so retarded. I hate this bloat shit

>>719852556
Yap yap yap nigger, you still don't have anything to say lmao

>>719852460
I've only got two mask pieces. When will I get to play with more than five masks?

>>719852590
You only have to do it a few times in Hollow Knight then you never do it again.

>>719852562
I just found a boss refight in a hidden area, I bet you can refight him somewhere.

>>719852612
When you've earned the right.

>>719852604
>Yap
Sorry, I forgot the "people" blindly defending this game no matter what's actually people said are zoomers. My fault for thinking you might say anything worthwhile.

>>719852403
I really like Wanderer because it's just the Knight's moveset, but the divekicks have grown on me

>>719852403
that just means you're good at the game. take pride in the fact that wanderer and reaper shitters are getting filtered left and right

>>719852671
WHY ARE YOU HERE

>>719852620
That’s a few more times than you ever should. And shitters are getting wrecked, so there’ll be even more for the average player

Bros I gotta admit I was fuming playing through that ant level but now that I’m past it and unlocked the dash I’m having fun again.

Did they run out of ideas or something? Basically every "harder" fight is double damage with contact and any attack with adds.
I don't remember the original having this many bosses that do double on contact and have adds.

which type of the charm thingies should I upgrade first with that upgrade thingie that upgrades your charm slots?

>>719852767
The game only starts being fun once you get the dash, imo

>>719852504
What to do when she does the spin fire thing? i thought i was supposed to go inside the circle but it just hits me anyways

This game is fun but i dont care about the world compared to hollow knight's. I hope the lore gets better in act 2

Still getting filtered by the red ants boss. I'm so bad at fights with multiple enemies on screen.

>>719852826
Make sure you're outside the radius of the flail proper. The rings of smoke that show up are an indicator of where the fire rings will appear (so don't stand in them)

>>719852832
In Act 1 you're literally just in the equivalent of Dirtmouth. Nothing out there matters too much.

>>719852826
The Spin fire makes smoke, stand between it before it ignites. Also, use the magma helm, turning any fire damage you take to one instead of two makes that fight way more easy.

>>719852816
unluck another passive first, then use map position and buy the auto pick for the red orb in the vendor

>>719852767
>>719852820
sprintdash is by far the best part of the game

>>719852867
oh ok i thought it was a massive aoe for some reason, dumbass soi artstyle

>>719852897
>magma helm
In my like 10 attempts of this boss it never once occurred to me to use it. What the hell

>>719850645
Not that anon, but She never offered to help me in this room either but I've bought all her stuff from the places I've been so far

>>719852802
Hornet is too mobile, the game wants to emphasize that fact by making sure you get punished for not moving right
The pogoes have a bit of a learning curve but theyre more than effective

>>719852604
Don’t know why that idiot couldn’t actually voice any criticism, but the currency grind, need to go back to vendors, and the shitty fetch quests are all examples of tedium

>>719852885
You're confidently saying that, anon. How far are you in?

>>719852390
but im a shitter at most games lol, desu i haven't really beaten a whole lot of new games in general since getting my steam account

>>719852425
ehhh, it's a cheap 165hz ips i got on amazon lol

>>719852446
I didn't think it was tedious desu, i thought the ant guys were fun to fight, especially when you take on multiple at once and have to kinda juggle between them, that's also why i found beastfly fight to be pretty fun albeit difficult.

>>719852507
IDK, i had trouble with pogo-ing at the start but i think it's quite satisfying when you get it down

>>719853042
Fuck off, nigger.

Does the knife count as a trap

>>719852998
>Currency grind
Maybe you just come back later? The fast travel points and benches are where your money is best spent

>>719852970
I did find three crests so far and Wanderer seems great, but the contact damage is killing me when I use it. The range is really short. Reaper and Beast, I don't like, prefer the original to them. Although Reaper pogo is nice.

>>719846336 (OP)
Something about the enemy design is bothering me. They all have the knight-style white masks, even though in Hollow Knight half the enemies either had no mask or some kind of mask/helmet that visually matched the rest of their outfit.

>>719853059
but why

>go back to deep docks
>cartographer is gone
Fuck me.

>>719853126
F

Whats the best use of a simple key? Freeing the prince?

This is why higher beings should only mate and breed with other higher beings. The Knight only took a mask hit. Hornet the MUTT tarnished with mortal blood gets hit for 2.

>>719853126
Eventually she just sets up camp at bonetown

>10 hours into the game
>they barely give you any charms or upgrades
>bestiary has 100 bugs while marketing says 200 hundred
>ACT 1

We're literally just playing the tutorial right now, arent we? The game must be absolutely massive with a whole new map.

>>719853042
One of the bounces that you RANDOMLY get from pogoing acts differently than the others. It’s not something you can entirely get down, because the window to react is small and it alters how you can position yourself

THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING PHASE?

>>719847119
Get help, nigga. He doesn't really make the fight easier, but he's a bro.

>>719853220
I assume there's 3 or 4 maps if so. A lot of stories do Act 4s.

>>719853126
it's ogre, half the game without maps

>>719853086
You don’t understand how “come back later” is just another form of tedium? Having to trek back just to buy something is a nuisance

MASSIVE progress

>>719846336 (OP)
in 4 hours in and i still dont know if this is a prequel or direct sequel to HK

Do you eventually unlock something like the Mantis Claw from Hollow Knight? I've found a couple of places that seem like they're only accessible that way

>>719853275
God i just fucking hate exploring in a metroidvania i hate being rewarded for being thorough with currency I can use for upgrades I took note of before
God i fucking HATE when the game wants me to play it

>>719853020
Act 3.

>>719853341
Yeah it was shown in some gameplay before.

Yeah I'm getting pretty tired of everything doing 2 damage.

>dodge attack
>boss jumps into me
Man, fuck this game

>>719853157
pls respond

>>719853342
Are you retarded? What about having to run my ass back to a warp point, run to the shop, back to a warp point, and then back to where I actually need to be is “exploring”? Insane how this basic distinction escapes you

Oh shit check this out (mild spoiler)

>>719853341
Yes just takes a bit

Moorwing 3 shotting you sucks

>>719853315
everything does 2 mask so it makes no difference until you have 7 masks

>>719853337
sequel
There was a scene at the end of HK to set it up

Honestly I wouldn't mind the difficulty at all if it weren't for the fucking CONTACT DAMAGE

>>719853439
Oh this one is also great
>touch boss and attack at the same time
>four damage taken

>>719853341
Just say wall jump

>little spider
Should I have played Hollow Knight first? I thought Hornet was a hornet.

>>719847556
Blasted Steps

So what's the lore with Pharloom, anyway?

>>719853337
Its a sequel to the Godhome ending of Hollow Knight, in this way its kind of expected that you beat the hardest challenges in hollow knight before playing this game
Its a fair expectation given the success of the original and the timeframe between releases

Is this fire rock throwing mother fucker supposed to be invisible?

>>719853625
She is the daughter of a spider and a god

Regular enemies are taking me 10 hits to kill, where the hell do I get a damage upgrade?

>touch gap between enemy's silhouette
>take contact damage

>>719852998
>need to go back to vendors
this is like every game ever isn't it

>>719853696
that’s the neat part, you dont.

>>719853679
>it's a fair expectation
It's not

Is this game actually good or is it overhyped and overrated? Non-shill answers only please.

>explicit fetch quests everywhere instead of subtle side quests
Who the fuck asked for this?

FUCK THESE THINGS

>>719853741
What the fuck Team Cherry

Not gonna lie, I wanna stick my penis in this Bug

Alright bros, I've explored everything I can I think up to this point. So.. Wormway or sinner path next?

>>719853762
its decent, it has some questionable decisions but the overall product is good.

>>719853762
See: >>719853059

>>719853762
actually hard unlike HK
actually has movement options unlike HK

6/10 modern slop

>>719853773
What is the point of making this easier to track while making the rest of the game way harder?

>>719853738
Many games bring every purchaseable item along with you to each new town. And there are plenty that don’t bloat runtime with that, certainly other metroidvanias

>>719850541
What the fuck, how do you get Garamond to help you?

Alright anons. Anyone tearing through this game please spoil me on as much of the story and lore as you can.

Anyone fought the black guy from the trading cards yet?

>>719848723
It's really funny they put her on the right side and if you go left then you just end up exploring the entire area with no map. Not a very good decision but a funny one

>>719853696
The few who have gotten a nail upgrade thus far have said it doesn't seem to make any difference, so please look forward to it.

>>719853762
Pretty good so far. Better movement, more bloat. Will see how long the fun lasts. HK wore out its welcome for me before 100%

>it's another you have 200ms to react to the correct stance or you get hit episode
Last Judge can suck my dick.

>>719853762
Yea? Its a bullshit 2d metrovania soulslop. If thats not your thing than you won't love it. Its chalk full of bullshit. If you enjoy over comming a challenge the good can outweigh the back tracking, bullshit pogo, tough bosses.

>>719853249
I only met him once where can I meet him again to get him to join the fight?

WHERE SHOULD I USE MY SIMPLE KEY

>>719853762
Catered to speedrunfags, everyone else gets to watch lore vids after frustration gets them

>Can't pogo off the sting shard.
wtf, I know it's 7 years old but the reveal trailer showed Hornet doing that. I was looking forward to trying to sequence break with it.

>That Hunter's March runback
>All the traps
Thank god I didn't have THAT one spoiled... Fuck that place though. For real. Fuck it. Pointless cringe nonsense.

>>719853967
That area is the second place you meet him and where he'll ask if you want his help.

I am just going to wait until someone makes maps. I do not have the patience to keep losing my way in each area until I find the map vendor.

i really don’t get the difficulty complains, if anything you just need good reflex

>>719853890
uhmm uhhh higher beings dont need to eat

>>719853890
The real Silksong is the friends we made along the way.

Are extra mossberries just for selling?
I found 3 more after the quest

>>719853997
did you found the vendor?

This act 2 area after the dancers is dogshit to traverse through over and over, holy fuck.

that boss in the middle of the Marrow who's a lot like the starter midboss from HK is fucking kicking my ass and i can't figure out how to not get baited directly into his leap or his regular ground attack lmao

You ARE fulfilling every wish, right anon?

>>719854057
You get a green piece of shit for collecting 999

>>719854085
Im getting eifle towered by the scissor men room.

>ant area
WHERE IS THE FUCKING BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENCH. I AM RUNNING BACK FROM THE FUCKING JAIL CELL AREA

>>719853862
I don't think it's much harder than HK. Enemy patterns feel about the same difficulty, it's just everything does more damage now. If you can actually dodge and your strategy wasn't just tanking hits and healing then it's pretty much the same

>>719854161
I gave up. Ill wait for the double jump.

>>719854085
i assume is the pet one, right? just remember a lot of smoke= he is going to jump, little smoke he is going to run, smoke in the middle= bell attack

>>719853493
It works just like the dream nail, except it freezes the enemy you're reading the thoughts of instead of you having to time the hit

>>719846336 (OP)
Does anyone know where can i find the Apostate key im searching for it in the prison and i cant find it ?

>>719851681
harp thing?

Are you seriously telling me I have only one opportunity of attack during Last Judge? This is bullshit.

>>719854172
Its harder. Those flying spears dudes from HK that were dificult is now the standard enemy.

>>719854271
needolin, you'll get it later on

Is a single person using Beast?

>>719854201
no i mean the basic bitch Large Dude With Stick
it's really embarrassing that i'm having any trouble with him

>>719854397
>Large Dude With Stick
oh that bastard, i suggest getting dash first

>>719853226
idk im at shellwood now and i dont think im having difficulty with the pogo bounces there, maybe it might be a pad issue, im using a ps5 one

MASSIVE SPOILERS (around Sinners Path, regarding Bone Bottom)
My mouth is fucking agape???
I just experienced the skull tyrant murder everyone what the fuck??? I genuinely was actually shocked it was out of nowhere. He killed my fucking friend. The Little Pilgrem and Pebb were my friends...

well time to sleep and continue tomorrow

>>719854279
No, you can attack it a lot. You just got to be more conserved then other fights. Do two attacks, then back off. Once you know if it is the spin or the throw, you can start moving again. The game punishes you a lot for trying to stay right in the bosses face, they want you to be super mobile in every fight, running around the arena and stuff.

>>719854161
IT WAS A TRAP ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME KEK

Do i get any special item if i rescue all the dogs ?

>>719854610
*kisses you on the lips*
good night

>>719854629
>Once you know if it is the spin or the throw, you can start moving again.
Except the spin makes it so I can attack and the throw makes me move backwards, outside attack range.

>>719854553
Most of the sequences you have to use it aren’t difficult, but if you try to do certain particular movement and aren’t mindful of the rng, it won’t work as ypu expect. And that’s dumb as fuck

>>719854486
yeah i figured this needed dash, the fast travel pup fight only took me like three tries but this one feels impossible without a dash, the spacing just isn't there
i won't ask where to get the dash though

>>719854685
Literal skill issue.

>>719854594
A true FROMSOFTtm moment.

>>719854736
>rng on core movement is good
Retard

>>719854670
No, you just got to run up on the throw sooner and start jumping and attacking the head with downwards attacks. Once the boss retracts the censer, you should move away to avoid a possible spin.

>>719854838
It's a literal non-issue.

>>719854841
>and start jumping and attacking the head with downwards attacks
And then the boss jumps and I get hit.

god damn, so many things do 2 damage

>>719854857
It’s garbage design that adds an annoyance for no benefit

How many areas are in the game that you've found so far?

>>719854931
No, it literally doesn't matter. You barely even notice it.

>quick slash and longnail combo isn't a thing anymore
>have to take my time with bosses instead of just spamming attack
noooooo

>>719854931
i have literally never noticed what you're even talking about. is there actually a difference besides the animation or are you just finding things to bitch about

I am so tired of these diagonal RNG fucking flies

>>719854905
Yes, because you stayed in range too long. If you are moving in during the start of the throw, you can get three attacks before the boss pulls it back in. If you don't react fast enough, just let the boss start the next attack. Don't think you have to be up that ass every moment. Just keep enough distance that you can still see which attack is starting.

>>719854960
Maybe if you lack a brainstem, but I notice how my character moves and when it’s inconsistent based on random chance

>>719854685
>but if you try to do certain particular movement and aren’t mindful of the rng, it won’t work as ypu expect
what kind of movement? i am interested to know

>>719855052
>when it’s inconsistent based on random chance
MY CHARACTER SPRITE IS RANDOMLY ANGLED 0.5 DEGREES AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME DARKSOULSMAN

>2nd act

nigger tongue my anus

>>719854994
You not being observant is not my problem. After a spin bounce, you instantly turn around with a directional press. The other bounces you don’t. The bounces are random. Go pogo and pay attention

>>719854594
Forgot what happens to pretty much every friendly face you meet in Hollow Knight?

>>719855092
>randomly angled
You don’t even know what it does, yet you feel the need to cry over any criticism
>>719855089
Here >>719855140

>phases straight through the bell
I am so tired of doing this fucking parkour bullshit every single time...

>>719855216
huehue U RIKE?

>>719855216
skill issue

>>719855216
Seems they made the movement better, but not the platforming level design

>that widow fight fakeout

man fuck you

>>719855140
I tested it and I'm not noticing what you're talking about.

>>719855135
>Hey man, we heard you like buzzsaws, so how about Chainsaws
FUCKING HELL. This is actually hell, precision platforming or lose two masks is actually hell

>>719855216
You did it too high. Hornets attack ended. I would have loved if the attack goes through the entire way to the ground, but it doesn't, it only is at the very start of the animation.

>>719855370
when you pogo, sometimes you start spinning like sonic. If you do, you can instantly face the other way with a single press of the direction. If you get more of a flip, you’re locked into facing the direction you were for like half a second. This can make precise positioning and choosing the direction you want to dive inconsistent. I can’t make it more clear than that.

>>719855387
Ugggg, path of pain ruined HK for me.

bake a new bread

>>719855428
>You did it too high.
Nope. Here's one where I dashed from further away.

>>719855216
That boss and the run back was really annoying

Also, second fast travel system god damn

>>719855428
It’s microdick length. Really unsatisfying, and the animation doesn’t help. If looks like it should extend a little further

>>719855473
That's what I figured you were trying to say, the problem is that I don't get into into a direction at all.

>>719849279
Did you ever find it anon?
Fuck this stupid area but I really want to finish it since its been really unrewarding for all the goddamn time wasted

>>719854594
i destroyed the bridge and it never respawned, i doomed them didn't i?

>>719855604
What are YOU trying to say?

>>719855542
Ah, I see what the problem was. It wasn't that you did it too high, you actually didn't hit the hit box of the bell at all. The box doesn't cover the whole bell, just the top of it. Really stupid. I don't notice on these because I use the Reaper Crest now, which changes the down attack into a swipe. Covers the whole hitbox even if I'm below the bell.

>>719855664
C'mon, you can tell what I'm trying to say even with the one typo. Try looking at your previous post if you're having trouble.

>>719854594
>He didn't do the grand hunt for the Skull Tyrant
For shame Anon

>>719855678
>you actually didn't hit the hit box of the bell at all.
I clearly did. You can literally see me hitting the top of the bell.

>>719855632
>>719849279
I also didn't find it, I just ended up leaving. Based on where Hornet's icon was on the main map I presume Slab is just accessed via Citadel later

also this area seems like it will be annoying to get around

>>719855757
it just happened to me and i did do that hunt, i'm wondering if doing it attracts that one

>>719855731
No, cause I don’t understand how you’re possibly fucking up at figuring this out. You don’t get turned? into a direction at all if you’re bouncing, spinning and hit the opposite direction? That’s what happens

Yeah no, I think Last Judge is where it ends for me.
This is Godhome all over again. No fun, just hardcore challenge for masochists.

>>719855902
>you’re locked into facing the direction you were for like half a second
You know, a better question would be, why is this at all a problem when doing literally anything turns you in the correct direction? Facing the "wrong" direction doesn't actually matter.

>>719855916
Go look up where the masks and weapon upgrades are. Thats how I got through Sekiro.

What does the crafting kit do? Got enough beads to get that or the sting shard trap thing, but I already have the triple throwing knife tool. Which should I go with?

>>719856032
>weapon upgrades
There are none besides the one in the village. If you want more, you need to get in the city, past the boss.

>>719851886
It's a small area you only have to go through once with a dead-end that takes less than 20 minutes

>>719856068
>What does the crafting kit do
Moar dmg for tools

>>719853706
YOU *WILL* WAIT YOUR FUCKING TURN TO POKE THEM

>>719856013
Because if I reposition precisely and want to press divekick, whether it goes in the right direction or not will depend on what direction I’m facing

>look down
>get hit by a boulder from above
very funny

>>719856116
Oh schweet, thanks.

Blasted Steps or Sinners Path? Which one is the correct way to continue the story
I of course want to go the wrong way. But both seem like they'd lead me to the citadel.

>>719856068
Whatever you do, don't buy the fire charm. I can't believe I wasted my precious rock on it.

>>719856174
>whether it goes in the right direction or not will depend on what direction I’m facing
No, it depends on what fucking buttons you're pressing. This "problem" you're having makes literally zero sense, this is not how the game works. I would've noticed something fucked up like this by now.

So how are casuals supposed to get through Last Judge?
There is only one weapon upgrade, only one mask upgrade and aside from that.... nothing else to prepare with.

>>719852832
I was actually in the opposite camp, hollow knight 1 seems really simple and uninteresting compared to the atmosphere of the pilgrim camps and ascending the map.

>>719856254
This, Hollow Knight feels like a bunch of random stuff put together. Here it feels like a journey.

>>719855632
>>719855883
For what it's worth, there is a prisoner in the empty cell that you can get to talk with you if you play music.
Maybe I was missing an item and he trades it for the key.

Good god I love when a new release exposes just how casual the majority of /v/ is

>>719856247
Are you braindead? When you divekick, it takes you in the direction you’re facing, unless you are actively holding the other direction as you do it. Because one bounce allow you to change the direction you’re facing, you can precisely position for a reversed divekick. The other one requires you hold the reverse as you do it. There’s no reason for them to behave differently

Last Judge should go to fucking hell

>>719856356
The fact that this game is being discussed like a Soulslike, jesus fucking christ

>>719856356
gonna be honest i wasn't expect act 2 to be like this, i don't like indie platformers

>>719856417
Okay, I finally get what you're saying. Unfortunately, it's a skill issue on your end because as soon as I noticed this I just started compensating for it unconsciously by holding the direction I wanna dive kick in. I never noticed that only one of the bounce animations acted like the regular dive kick, but personally I would just act like all of them lock you in if it's such a bother so you take RNG out of the equation altogether.

New thread doko