Thread 719846585

So that's it? Just because I died twice in a row by some retarded enemy that take twice of my health I lose the 500 rosaries I've had and wasted hours to gather? Just like that? And I'm supposed to forgive this game for doing that to me time?

no refund btw

>>719846585 (OP)
First time playing a soulslike, anon?

>>719846585 (OP)
>And I'm supposed to forgive this game for doing that to me time?
Did the game hit you in the head, too, or did your mother drop you a couple times as a child?

>>719846585 (OP)
i found it boring and quit after 5 minutes

the angled downward dive is really unintuitive and i will never grow to like it

>>719847973
toxoplasmosis subhuman

>>719846823
Please let this screen be real.

Just git gud and you won't have that problem

>>719848113
Why are you like this man

>>719846585 (OP)
That's why they added the option to string them together at shops, you don't loose those

>>719846585 (OP)
One time I lost 20000 geo in hollow knight because of the same reasons. It's how it goes. Don't die twice in a row.

Game keeps all the bad design flaws and 9utdated mechanics that made me hate the first game. Thank god the steam store wouldnt let me purchase it so i pirated it. I uninstalled it when i died and had to backtrack 5 min worth of game

>>719846585 (OP)
Older games would wipe all of your progress when you ran out of lives, this is downright painless compared to that. You are mentally weak.

Skill issue.

>having to grind currency in a Metroidvania
>having to buy basic shit like map markers in a Metroidvania
Pure skinnerbox pseudoprogression slop

>>719850721
Metroidvania games never had lives. You aer making a false comparison.

>>719853852
Nobody said anything about metroidvanias exclusively, just the death and loss mechanic, you are trying to weasel out of being labelled a shitter.

>>719853923
The reason a system like this wasn't in previous Metroidvanias has nothing to do with "difficulty" and everything to do with developers that understand why it isn't appropriate. This is the same reason they didn't have lives.

>>719854075
The game is popular, therefore it is an appropriate mechanic to include.

>>719854137
This logic is exactly why every fucking game now has Soulslike combat and the Sekiro parry. Fuck off.

>>719854210
Contrarianism is not a substitute for personality, schizoid.

>>719854265
Silksong is being contrarian by shoehorning mechanics into Metroidvanias that no other game in the genre has despite players not enjoying said mechanics.

>>719849746
Wrong
You lose like 20 tokens everytime you string them, out of 80 it costs

>>719854328
Most players are enjoying it, though, it was the objectively correct move and it's consistent with Hollow Knight. It's okay to admit you ate shit and are mad at the loss of your time investment, you don't have to try to convince people the mechanic is bad and doesn't fit the game. There's nothing wrong with losing in a game once in a while.

>>719854420
I'm not the Anon you were initially replying to and the issue has nothing to do with difficulty because this mechanic does not increase the difficulty, it merely increases the tedium. What objective metric are you using to determine that this was an objectively correct mechanic to include?

>>719854506
I never said anything about it increasing difficulty. What it does is increase tension on corpse runs, which is fun for a lot of people or Hollow Knight and Silksong would not have done so well.
>What objective metric are you using to determine that this was an objectively correct mechanic to include?
Reviews not complaining about the mechanic on average. Don't like the mechanic? Don't play the game, easy as.

Yeah, have fun grinding that shit again.

Just don't die twice

>>719854641
>which is fun for a lot of people or Hollow Knight and Silksong would not have done so well.
What is your evidence that the games sales are directly correlated to the inclusion of this mechanic? What is your evidence that the game succeeded because of this mechanic, rather than in spite of it?
>Reviews not complaining about the mechanic on average
Are reviewers an accurate representation of a game's playerbase?

>>719854918
The game sold incredibly well for being an indie game and compared to other metroidvanias despite the inclusion of said mechanic, which means that nobody actually cares about how metroidvanias "should be" except for black and white thinking autistic people. No reviews, at least those that I've read so far, are complaining about the mechanic's inclusion, this is literally the only time I've seen anyone complain about the soulslike death mechanic for Silksong, if it were a hot button topic, it would be making the rounds on social media more broadly, and it isn't. I'm sure there are more complaints about it for Hollow Knight that have accrued over the years, but it's obviously a minority issue, and caring about minorities is cringe.

>>719855202
What would you think of the mechanic if reviewers hated it?

>>719847973
You had 7 YEARS to play ONE Castlevania

>>719855232
I would think they're entitled to their opinion, as I am to mine, what they think wouldn't affect my enjoyment at all. That said, Ad Populam, which is important for products from a financial perspective, would obviously mean the market doesn't want soulslike mechanics either broadly or making an appearance in other genres, which would be fine and understandable if that were the case, but it is not the case.

And yes, I would feel bad if I didn't have breakfast yesterday.

>>719855458
If reviewers all hated the mechanic and the game sold like shit, how would you prove you're not just being a contrarian for liking it?

>>719855653
Proving your own thoughts objectively to other people is obviously impossible Anon. We're not telepathic. I wouldn't go jumping through hoops trying to claim that X mechanic belongs in Y genre in all cases and everyone MUST follow the rules, however.

>>719854380
The game still, upfront, gives you a fucking way to make them unloseable. If you then fuck around and lose them, that's kinda on you, you jew fuck.

>>719847973
TC is unironically based for filtering thousands of retards with the basic pogo jump. It's a shame you get the alternative in less than two hours.

>>719855758
How would you feel if while you were eating breakfast this morning, you shat yourself uncontrollably, and didn't have time to change your pants before going to work?

>>719855986
I just wouldn't go into work with shitty pants, would you? Call in sick, man, what the fuck.

>>719846585 (OP)
No refunds cuckie

>>719856049
What if you were already known for being late and would get fired if you didn't show up on time?

i'm playing the first hollow knight for basically the first time and this shit is too big
i get exploration or whatever is the point but it feels a little annoying having played for four hours tonight and fought two bosses with no idea where i'm really supposed to go to progress
the worst thing is i am finding new places it's just that none of them feel like the path forward
also was i supposed to hit the big sleeping bug by a gate near the start because it seemed rude but before stopping earlier tonight i managed to have looped all the way around to the other side of the gate, where a charm selling lady is so i couldn't help but wonder if i was supposed to have gotten there sooner.

>>719856091
You really lost this one so badly that all you can do is try to call me brown by repeatedly trying to catch me out on theoretical abstraction? Also just get fired, going into work with completely shitty pants would get you fired anyway, I get severance.

>>719846585 (OP)
Why is /v/ so shit at games

>>719856231
Why do you associate shitting yourself uncontrollably with being brown?

>>719856294
>give me an excuse to report you for racism
Nah. If you know, you know.

>>719856416
Who are you quoting?

>>719856468
Using meme arrows outside their intended purpose is site culture, deal with it

>>719856557
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>719856646
Heh

>>719847973
You can get the regular HK dive like 30 minutes into the game just get the key retard

>>719846585 (OP)
either spend them or exchange them for pouches. it's 100% your own fault

>>719856769
Which key?

>>719857018
the simple key, take the elevator to the mosshome then go left and make the jump to the worm place, then go down once inside first chance you get and go to bonegrave and you get it there. It is extremely easy to get

>>719846585 (OP)
Why didn't you go get back your rosaries before trying to fight the same enemy again? You only have yourself to blame

>>719846585 (OP)
>older metroidvanias
>ignore save point
>die
>have to replay THE ENTIRE SESSION
Losing some currency isn't that big of a deal.
It is, however, very frustrating when so many enemies drop the money somewhere you can't collect

>>719846585 (OP)
How did you die twice in a row to the basic bitches you've been grinding for "hours"? The game is pretty generous with that shit, too. Did it take hours because you kept losing them along the way to 500?

>>719846585 (OP)
Holy shit. Which steamer did you see that happen to?