Thread 719862652

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>>719862652 (OP)
good

>>719862652 (OP)
>Hey Ari looks like the game is pretty much flawless
>Yup
>Zones are better, you get mobility upgrades way earlier so game is fun from the get go
>Yea we did well
>We might break some records and even win goty, and not the meme indie one
>Yhymm
>Lets change pogo to be absolutely unuseable

>>719862652 (OP)
Just be right next to it when you hit the dive. The real problem is having to press down before you jump because otherwise it'll do a midair attack instead.

>>719862741
why did they give sub weapons the NES castlevania 1 input my controller has a million fucking buttons that isn't the input I use to move my character

>>719862652 (OP)
Truetalent (the dbd streamer) have quickly adapted. Why cant you?

>>719862741
Pogo is just shit on your initial crest
It's perfectly doable on reaper

>>719862884
no idea who that is but pretty much every streamer ive given a chance besides northernlion and fauna have been shit

>>719862921
Reaper takes 5-7h depending on how good you are to get and if you stumble upon it.

>>719862652 (OP)
Am I the only one who've had zero issues with the new pogo?

>>719862978
Probably, yeah

>>719862978
It was tricky at first when trying to figure out just how far behind you should be to bounce against it

>>719862978
Took a few tries but I got it

>>719862978
I’m fine with it and like it now but sometimes in a pogo chain, the 2nd and only the 2nd bulb will be misaligned.

>>719862978
I had far less trouble with it than that room in Forgotten Crossroads where you have to pogo over spikes towards a grub.

>>719862652 (OP)
it feels really good to move around in this game, i have no idea why people were complaining about the air dash

>pick up key early because it seemed important
>pick up Wanderer crest 3 hours in and never worry about pogoing again
I didn't even find it hard in the first place.
Skill issue.

I couldn't do it perfectly on my first try so the game design is shit actually

>>719862967
Can confirm, just got to reaper and I am at 5h. And I am a shitter, who tried to beat the giant red ant miniboss before getting dash, and spent like half an hour fighting him. Then I got dash and humilited him.

Got Reaper crest early by accident and now its HK1

>>719862741
I like Silksongs more cause of the added forward momentum

What filters me really is fucking 2 dmg on everything, HK1 got it on lategame

>>719862652 (OP)
I'm getting filtered by Moorwing

>>719862652 (OP)
I don't get it

>>719864117
you can cheese the fuck out of that guy by just dragging him to the left where the ceiling is lower, it blocks the jump attack and he becomes trivial

>>719864343
dishonest game design

>>719864398
What is dishonest about it?

>>719864285
ask the knight guy to help you

>>719864448
im making a reference, you probably wouldnt get it

>>719862652 (OP)
took my the second you actually needed it a few jumps after the first ones that are optional, what is wrong with people?

>>719862741
>"oh whats that sweetie, you want a save point or fast travel unlock for that massive area you just travelled through with all those tough enemies and autistic pogo platforming ?"
>"well i hope you brought some currency that only 10% of enemies drop, that you lose on death and not even bosses carry and that you spent on maps, otherwise no save point for you !"
rosaries are actual aids.

>>719864276
It's good design and I really like it. There are two elements to map design, a slow exploration when you methodically clear everything and look around, and just flipping through areas you've already been in like a crazy motherfucker

>>719862741
None of these points were true.

>>719864276
Yeah but you can recover THREE hp with one recovery

I really like the silk upgrades that give you a small baseline of silk at all times. I wonder if you'll be able to get enough of the to equal a heal at any point.

>>719863624
i feel like if you just spam the pogo it delays it for some reason. when you separate the sections into individuals fruits and do deliberate jumps like you it just works.

>>719863624
It's retards who dont know how to aim their plunge

>>719862652 (OP)
Just wait til you get near them to pogo, it makes it braindead easy.

>>719862818
Oh yeah, good complaint. I keep fucking up and using silk on my spells trying to shoot a tool projectile

>>719863624
>>719865326
I haven't played this game at all and after looking at this webm for 5 seconds I realized the way she holds her stick points to the direction she initially dives in so that's how I would line it up

Is everyone who plays video games besides me mentally retarded?

>>719865430
If you actually wanted to help people you would set the left picture as right and put another with more distance as wrong

>>719865172
and it's a tap instead of holding it
I played for like 6 hours before I figured that out and that you can do it while airborne too

>>719865486
I don't even consciously do anything. I just got used to the angle and do it off instinct.

>>719865524
Also, if you get interrupted while doing it, you don't get the healing, and still lose your silk.

I haven't played silksong yet
Is the whole thing just that they replaced swinging down attacks to bounce off stuff with a divekick?

>>719865501
Uhhh okay but it doesn't seem right to me.

>>719865651
Depends on what you mean by "whole thing" but yes the downward attack was replaced

>>719865728
whole thing being all the bitching about the new pogo
I hated the way it was in HK it felt so gay

>>719865761
Then yes

>>719862652 (OP)
I had no trouble at all with that, it's pretty easy and basically your bad at the game. If you want to whine I suggest getting better material such as:
>why does every enemy have contact damage, even staggered bosses lying unconscious on their face, the face has contact damage??? if I collide with a pigeon in midair why do I get damaged? my head is 5x bigger than the pigeon's whole body, shouldnt the pigeon be the one that gets damaged?
>enemy health is too high / weapon damage is too low, a literal gnat takes 4 hits to kill, mid-sized non-boss enemies take like 10 hits, it's tedious
>timewasting 5 minute runbacks to the boss, die in 20 seconds, then another 5 minute runback to try again, why couldn't they just put a fucking savepoint before it, why do I have to spend more than half my time fighting the boss not actually fighting the boss??? first couple bosses were fine but now every boss is like this

>>719865486
>I haven't played this game
Why are panty and stocking posters always fucking awful

>>719862818
Don't forget
>you can only refill your extremely limited use subweapons at a bench which also requires a resource to refill
Abysmal game design decision

>>719863624
I bet most people don't even know how to get the 4th mask shard early, kek

>>719867481
>tfw only found 3 mask shards
it's not fair...

>>719867630
It involves luring a flying enemy in an early area to a spot where you are supposed to use the walljump and bouncing off him to access it.
There is a one of those little enemy gauntlets before it.
You've probably seen the shard, its behind a locked gate above a corridor.

>>719865486
>I realized the way she holds her stick points to the direction she initially dives
I didn't notice that. Thanks, PantyChad. I'd probably move by feel anyway, but still cool.

>>719862652 (OP)
>try out a new crest
>your muscle memory for pogoing is now fucked
th..thanks...

>>719867630
Don't worry, getting 6 health doesn't actually make you live longer.

>>719863624
I see the issue immediately
the bounce is too jerky and sudden. it has no flow and throws off the visualization of the arc.
you don't even see the point of impact. it's so badly communicated it looks like she just snaps right to the top of the thing she dashed at.
This is made even worse by how wonkey and low FPS the her animations are. that flip makes judging angle and distance much more inconsistent, because you really don't know where her center and hitbox is when she's doing that awkwardly animated flip.

>>719862652 (OP)
Crest of the Beast completely trivializes this game mechanic lmao. Literally homes in on bouncy shit without even having to aim regardless of distance. People need to be patient and explore the game more.

>>719863624
Based
Fucking show those shitters how it's done

>losers actually playing with the dev joke troll downslash
lmao just buy the key and go get the OG pogo back

>>719869301
New one is better if you have skill.

>>719868421
true, more than half attacks in this game deal double damage lol

Just finished the game and the final cutscene was so fucking cringe I sent a request to steam support for a refund.

>final boss dies
>hornet looks directly at the camera
>says: "At last... I've finally become the Hollow Knight: Silksong"
>winks

What did they mean by this?

>>719869301
new one is way better for combat

>>719863624
>>719868428
second issue I see;
these things are not laid out as if the game want you to dash into them diagonally. they're laid out as if you should pogo them.
the spacing and positioning is awkard. like it's made for you to be directly over the next one after bouncing forward.
this means you have to pull back on the controls so you land just short of it, instead of on top of it.

>>719865430
Wait, you're supposed to overshoot them and clip the hitbox?

>>719862652 (OP)
filtered my old hands for 2 hours. but I feel like a ninja now so all is forgiven. still might break the designers nose out of PSTD flashbacks though if I ever met them

>>719863624
I've hit 7 in a row like that just fine. The problem was you have to hit like 30 of them between two benches and high HP and shit. Whatever, I have the downward slash now anyway. I liked the angled slash for combat but it's not worth it if I'm running into awkward pogo platforming where the punishment is damage and teleporting back possibly onto an already aggro'd enemy.

Is it worth getting getting the spiky trap tool that's based on the one Hornet uses in HK? I feel like it probably makes a great sequence breaking tool if you can bounce on it, but I don't know if it's worthwhile or if I should save the ore for something else considering I've only found one so far.

never played hollow knight, and this is actually really intuitive and how it should be.

Some of the balancing is absolutely fucked. The swinger trashmob in Hunter's March is much more difficult to deal with than this boss. Also HM doesn't give you a way to save and makes you stuck on both of the possible paths because you lack the ability to climb further. HM shat up the pacing pretty bad but hopefully it get's better.
Also the trick with the diagonal pogo is to wait until you are touching the jump fruit.

>find some item
>it completely changes moveset
>pogo gets even harder

>>719862652 (OP)
I got it right away.

>>719863954
exactly what I did. I keep laughing at all these posts getting filtered by pogoing
hate the shorter range on attacks though

>>719862652 (OP)
What the fuck does the Garama button do? It's the R3 button, right stick pressed inside. It eats 1 bar of silk, and does nothing.

>the crow area has more bouncing
oh no its gonna be an entire game thing and part of the whatever this games path of pain is

>>719863624
Still looks kinda sluggish to move at all. Pogo was the one redeeming movement ability of the first and sadly the peak of getting a new ability that improves combat and exploration.

>>719864973
Dude, I'm getting 500 rosaries in 20 minutes, what are you on about?
Also what's this?

>>719863624
So that's how you jump those

>>719869667
you can be on top of it, the hitbox is very generous, and it's even easier to just pogo at the last moment before touching the flower

>>719863624
Movement feels better than the first game. Problem is that they've drunk the fromsoft b-team difficulty design koolaid. Imagine having all this fun movement and deciding that you're going to base your challenging game design around things like savage beastly.

>>719871201
Pogo was always shit, this is at least marginally better.

>>719862652 (OP)
People forgot they had to learn pogo in HK first.
It doesn't come naturally on the first try, the rythm, the height you're taking etc...
Stop whining, babies and GIT GUD.

>>719864973
so this game is just padding.
>Enemies are damage sponges purely to waste your time
>map is full of worthless tunnels made from the same repeating tiles
>game sends you back well past points you've already explored and beaten, purely to waste your time

>>719863624
My problem is that it feels terrible to adjust your bounce with both D-Pad and Analog stick.
It's much more prone to errors in general.

>>719871397
You shouldn't be on top of it tho. self defeating design.
What's the point of a diagonal mobility slash if you don't use the mobility part of it and just wait until you're touching the object?

that's like having a grappling hook that you only really use when you're already touching the hook point.

>>719862741
>Lets change pogo to be absolutely unuseable
Jesus christ get gud
I swear you fags could even do a cross up in a fighter

>>719862652 (OP)
Is there a fix or mod yet????

>>719871693
yeah, kys

>>719865486
I imagine this might have some relation to the complaints

It feels good but I hate how it basically forced you to use the dpad since joystick will constantly misread inputs when you try to chain together opposite direction dashes

>>719865430
Is this bait?

>>719865430
>beast crest'd
>down attack sends you barreling foward for some autistic reason
WHAT WHJERE THEY THINKING

>>719871808
That's more a problem with your setup

>>719871637
You don't have to be on top of it, if you actually put effort into learning the angle it can be done from max distance. And it's really not even hard, what sucks is just the specific Hunter's March area because there's no bench and the enemies are a lot tougher than the previous zone. Add in the platforming over spikes and it turns into a battle of attrition. That said I think people are attempting it a little early, without finding a couple power ups you can get before.

>>719871839
Man, there sure are a lot of shitters

>>719871825
>>719871839
imagine coming to a videogame board and admitting you’re shit at games lmao

>>719871980
I'm saying it's bait because it's unecessary and wrong

>>719870221
There's a fight with one of the humongous ant guys with a club with one of the flying ant guys that throws spears at you. I laid down a bunch of traps before the fight started and it fucking obliterated the flying guy and did enough damage to the big guy that I beat him without a sweat. I literally only just got it, so I'm not going to say it's OP, but it's way fucking better than the projectile shit. I haven't tried pogoing on it.

>>719872047
It’s necessary for the retards who suck ass at the game and it isn’t wrong dumb nigger

>>719872192
It is wrong and you are baiting people to over shoot

>>719870406
where is the room of your image? I feel like I found it but didn't explore it, and then forgot its location

>>719872304
NTA, it's where you first fight your rival

>>719872238
The point of the image is that you do not have to be a full jumps distance away, I forgot we’re dealing with gigaretards who couldn’t figure this out themselves by actually playing the game

>>719872359
I don't remember the location and I didn't fight it yet unfortunately

>>719872472
I don't have a problem with it because it's intuitive
Your image is still misleading

>>719862967
the fuck? I'm 5 hours in and I already have the third one. Which has a pogo that will filter BILLIONS btw.
You guys are just casuals

>>719870406
>>719872359
nvm I found it, thanks

>>719872520
Have you come across the forge daughter?
Near there

>>719862978
No, I've also played more than 10 games before.

>>719872562
It’s not my image dumb fuck, if the image is misleading you’re obviously mentally challenged and I can see why you’re getting filtered

>>719872670
Can't you read, I have no issue with pogo because it's easy and intuitive
The image you've used is not and it's misleading

>>719862741
I like it more during combat. It's harder to use. But it's more fun than HK pogo'ing. And platforming with it isn't that bad. It just takes some getting used to.

Fuck I only have 2/3 of the glow stuff for the crest but I'm all the way in deep root now. I hate backtracking I don't even have dash yet.

>>719872185
I'll give it a try then, sounds like it might do well in all of the enemy gauntlet rooms the game keeps throwing out too

>>719872727
If your issue with the image is the exact positioning then you’re a fucking retard kek it’s obvious to non brainlets it’s the distance

>>719864285
Just do it

>>719872914
Also you can just do the flea questline and skip the whole boss fight lol

>>719864285
fight it in the water, the platforms block 95% of its bullshit.
the flying enemies in this game are absolute bullshit

>>719864397
Idk how people dont see this as the obvious thing to do.
How retarded is the average /v/dditor?

>>719871951
>>719871980
>shit eater defence force
that spinjump is horrendous, stop clinging to bad design because you want to eat shit 24/7

>>719862741
They could've added some kind of skill that lets you pogo straight down which you unlock later on, i guess

>>719873007
What if I just random sat my fat ass on you at random when you’re trying to attack me with ZERO tells

>>719873116
>t. shitter
the real gamers are talking, sissy

>>719864397
>trivial
>still need to hit the fucker 300 fucking times so he can die
there's the risk of dying of old age before killing him, same with most enemies in this stupid slog
where's the fucking nail upgrade

>>719871206
120 beads, use to acquire

>>719873156
>Go for a jump+upwards slash
>The fucker just teleports downwards and clips my hitbox
I found this to be moat infuriating part of these birdfucks

>>719871201
Is that KNACK!?

>>719871424
>fromsoft b-team difficulty design koolaid
lmaoo this niggers trash at games

>think I've unlocked a shortcut
>it's actually yet another one-way dropdown that fucks you and makes you warp and backtrack
the map does not flow nearly as well as hollow knight

>Get new crest
>It doesn't have slots for charms per default.
Thanks cherry, but I'm gonna keep the old one.

I know I'm missing something combat-wise because people keep talking about crests and shit and I'm fighting widow right now with the default kit and some spears as my up + R1

>do we have enough arena rooms?
>no, put another one in

why is the entire game just enemies that fly out of your range and throw projectiles at you

>>719873684
to make you get gud at closing the distance and parrying the projectiles.

>>719862652 (OP)
/^it filtered millions$/i;op:only;stub:no;
and I filtered you

>>719862652 (OP)
The part that annoys me is the timing. Some require button mashing to chain pogo ladders on, while others want you to soar and reposition a bit between pogos.

I don't really mind enemies dealing two damage with actual attacks but the fact that a lot of them do it just on contact too is ridiculous

>>719871934
The game doesn't do an awesome job at guiding you the correct way. It's far too easy to wind up on Hunter's March instead of hitting Deep Docks first, as evidenced by the sheer number of people who have attempted it.

Like you know that if you take Wormways, you're going out of sequence. You KNOW that isn't the way you're "supposed to go right now". It's immediately apparent when you open a runback shortcut that requires a wall kick to utilize it. I think the game needed something that made it clear "you aren't SUPPOSED to be here without the air dash" and I think the big red bitch enemy was maybe meant to be that, but most people just went
>damn fuck this game is hard
and kept going.

All of Hunter's March feels like it exists for speedrunners, as a way that you can deliberately sequence break to save time if you have the chops to pull it off, but most players aren't getting that message clearly and think it's just The Way Forward.

>>719872914
wait that npc can help you fight? I just soloed the boss via chaining pogos

didn't finish the first game because i got bored but i was probably half way through, do we think this game is good enough to justify playing both?

What is the point of the other currency? It's used for nothing. All that matters is beads. I've been capped out on the other currency all game.

>>719862978
It took me a couple minutes to break old muscle memory but I'm enjoying it now

>>719873528
The game has two (or more? I've found two) entirely optional side areas inside buildings called Chapels. If you clear the chapel, you unlock a new combat model with different attacks and properties. I don't think they're required to clear the game.

Most people probably wouldn't talk about it except that one of them (Reaper) gives you the old HK moveset with the classic air pogo and that's the one everyone wants.

>>719862978
No but I've also played a shit ton of Donkey Kong Country and other 2d platformers.

>>719873528
One crest you get from the rightmost part of the Hunter's March.

>>719873930
retard

>>719873930
Shards are your mana basically

I swear to god if I get hit one more time by those lava slug niggers I will rape someone

>>719862978
It’s weird at first because of muscle memory but then you git gud

>>719873994
no u

>>719862652 (OP)
>>719862741
Man you guys must be dogshit at games if you actually found this hard to adapt to. How the hell did you guys deal with the path of pain?

>>719874103
retard

>>719871825
No?

Don't aim for a diagonal line, you want to be just about touching with the pogos. You still have to make contact with the object anyway, coming in on the diagonal risks overshooting what you're aiming for.

>>719874024
I still haven't bought a single "trap" I don't understand how they work or what they do. Are they worth the investment of rosaries at all? I'm perpetually sitting at max shards, it feels like a big waste to not be using them, but I really don't feel like running the Rosary grind loop AGAIN just for some stupid Dead Cells Bear Trap that I'll never ever fucking use.

>>719862978
No, I don't understand what sort of decrepit boomers we must share a board with to hear this much complaining about it. I say this as someone that's dogshit at the combat too, I've seen how good some of you are at combat so it baffles me how there is such a large skill gap in combat and platforming.

>>719874107
Path of Pain was unironically easier than Hunter's March and I'm not kidding.

>>719874148
ERMM WOOOOW HOW AM I SUPPOED TO KNOW THAT HECKING IS JUST BAD GAMEDESING

>>719874146
>>719874103
refer to
>>719874103
for future interactions

>>719873994
>>719874024
>can only use subweapon 10 times without sitting at a bench
Wow, incredible.

>>719874169
the traps are great

>>719874169
Well you don't have to buy the pins and later you find long pins, the shuriken trap is useful in arenas because the spaces are enclosed

>>719874169
Traps are basically spells with the shards being your mana.
You have a max amount of charges (that you can increase later on) and you replenish charges by sitting on a bench, however it consumes charges to do so.
They act separately to your silk so you can use them without worrying about not having enough silk to heal.

>>719874107
>How the hell did you guys deal with the path of pain?
they watched it on youtube

>finally get a mask upgrade
>literally, LITERALLY does not matter because every boss and miniboss deals 2 hits of damage so I still die in 3 hits no matter what
you should have started with 6 and gone to 7 with your first upgrade so you actually felt something

>>719862652 (OP)
>get mantis claw
>backtrack all the way to the beginning
>there is something

>>719862652 (OP)
lol, the whites ones are worse. With the red ones you can at least save yourself if you bounce.

>>719873994
please refer to>>719873994
and >>719874146
>>719874264 also retard and filtered
cope seethe dilate gitgud you lost and got raped niggers tongue my anus

>>719874551
I think your brain's overheating. Go dunk your head in some cold water and calm down.

how do you design a pure kino boss like fourth chorus and follow it up with pure trash in sister splinter

>>719874610
please refer to>>719874551

>>719873835
I got to deep docks but the gate is closed

>>719874673
you think sister splinter is bad just wait until you go back to the ants and try thebig ant boss again but with a flying fucker helping him out this time on the shittiest hallway imaginable. just enough to make attacks straight up undodgable and the door doesn't close for some reason so if you're ever back against one of the two walls odds are you'll be restarting the fucking fight by accident

Sometimes I am reminded that /v/ isn't actually that good at video games.

>>719862967
can confirm too, took me a bit less than 5 hours to get there

>>719864285
Was the first boss that took me more than 3 tries. Fun fight but doable if you're not too greedy during the second phase. First evade it's attacks, then punish it to be on the safe side.

>>719862978
I have it down pretty well but sometimes it seems like the flowers eat your input.

>>719874974
Except me

>>719862741
That's a lot of filtered noises in one post, anon-chan.

>>719873842
Yea just have to talk to him, die or run out of the boss area, talk to him then you say “you’re marked by the boss” then he will show up to the map next to the boss saying he will help you.

>>719873843
depends on why you got bored. If it was the difficulty, just skip to this game and then go back and finish HK's DLC after beating the base game.

>>719874356
that extra hit does help for when the bosses summon minions and the game has more gauntlet rooms with enemies hitting for one HP than you can possibly believe so the extra mask definitely helps.

guess i can repost this here since subhuman /v/ suddenly shuts the fuck up once anybody makes an indepth point their melted brains cant easily reduce to a narrative:

I literally had no problem with the diagonal pogo until this point, im confused theres something fundamentally wrong with the interaction here.

I have a theory that theres a bit of delay before you pogo can actually come out after a successful pogo, for a successive pogo.

another problem ive been running into is, the feeling that pogo should have priority, what i mean is that sometimes my pogo doesnt come out and I will land on an enemy instead of pogoing, I think that must be a problem either of the delay in pogoing, or theres no startup invincibility or something.

why this is problematic?

you can be doing the exact same inputs every time, with zero reason to think one wont suddenly work, and yet it can feel random. fixing this would make things more stable and consistent.

this little miniscule thing should be justification enough on the basis of "challenge" theres suffient amount of punishing mechanics, this doesnt really add anything

(when I talked about pogo delay, the problem isnt like basic nail attack delay, which can be made consistent simply by looking at the end of the attack and a return to stand still, with pogo, its much less clear, even when the pogo has ended, you may not actually yet be able to pogo, so what you end up doing, is pogoing a bit late to overcompensate and you can miss a pogo plant by a hair.)

I like the demand of precision I just think there are some problems.

Also Id still call this fairly basic platforming, there are still yet, no real "platforming" levels. But "platforming instances".

If youve played Beyond Good and Evil I would compare it to the hover craft sections in that game. Yes there are instances where you use the hovercraft often, but yet it never really demands any moment to moment engagement beyond a single context if that makes sense.

>>719874939
see >>719872185

>>719862741
seriously what the fuck were they thinking. This one thing makes the experience 50% less fun to play. Do you unlock the normal sword as a weapon or is the whole game like this. I've only played it for about 2 hours but the enemy and level design feels precisely designed to fuck you a lot. So far it feels like the Dark Souls 2 of the Hollow Knight Franchise.

>>719875540
wasn't difficulty i remember i was after the green grass part at least with a lot of upgrades. it just didn't seem like it had more mechanics than that.

>>719862978
People who actually play video games and try to adapt to the mechanics are fine with the changes. The reaction to the game being too hard and people bithching about rosaries is pathetic. I would be disappointed if i beat every boss first try so i appreciate that bosses like the beast inflict double damage.

>>719862652 (OP)
This eтemy alone almost filtered me

>>719875668
i tried doing the traps and even using the honey drink shit to attack faster but the fuckers just tank it, it's not like you can lay down an infinite amount of them

>>719875731
>i was after the green grass part
erm how many bosses did you fight? Greenpath is like 1/10th of the game unless you're talking about going back to it towards the end.

>>719865486
Play it and than tell us how good you are. But yeah most of the modern "gamers" are retards that are in it just for the feel of belonging and their minds are so dopamine fried they have no desire to learn the mechanics so they'll buy the new thing, post some wholesome thing with the screenshot of the title screen and never touch it again.

>>719875224
>>719864285
Drag him to the right, there's a pile of wood you can stand on.
His airblasts get despawned if they hit it, so you will only have to dodge his dive and claw attack.

>>719875778
They're not really dangerous, but... the game definitely has a few obnoxious enemies.

>>719862652 (OP)
nothing bothers me more than random shit doing 2 masks of damage. i loved moorwing's fight but holy shit the two mask contact damage is aids. beastfly has the same problem, you can die instantly off of a single mistake, sometimes it feels as if i'm playing on radiant

>>719862978
wouldn't be an issue if those red thingies just had a sliiiightly bigger hitbox. i whiff them quite often

>>719875668
>>719875812
tried again and nah they just still keep tanking it. i spent 200 shard again just now trying to at least kill ONE of them with them to no avail. do they even give anything good? the rest of the ants area was garbage in terms of loot

>>719862652 (OP)
not so fast

Really annoying that the game doesn't tell you what special powers the crests actually have.

>>719873951
There are at least 3 to find, could be more
Hunter: in the green area, changes attacks to claw swipes, pogo becomes a retarded spinning lunge, healing doesn't heal you but instead puts you in a berserk state where every hit will heal one health
Reaper: in the rainy area, makes attacks slow but strong, pogo becomes a slow but huge swipe under hornet, healing also adds a temporary buff where hitting enemies make silk balls spit out that you can grab for 1/2 of a notch of silk, lasts for a decent amount of time unless you get hit
Wanderer: found in a hidden area back at the start of the game, hollow knight moveset, no immediately noticeable change when healing

>>719862741
Skill issue.

which way, asian man?

I just bought the crafting kit but the merchant isnt selling any deadlier tools?
I sat at a bench and restarted the game but the inventory didn't change.
Is it only for other merchants?

>>719877253
From what I understood it just makes the tools you use deal more damage

>>719862978
Once you learn that you don't just spam down attack to the next one and you have time to aim you get better

>DUDE COMBAT ARENAS!!!!
I'm getting bored

I haven't been filtered like this since Lion King's giraffes

>>719877480
I just hear a melty. Try focusing the flying guy bub

>>719877480
>plays game for 10+ hours in two days
I'd be worried if you weren't getting bored

Just don't move at all. You get launched from the first time you hit them into the perfect position to hit the next one

>>719877480
Did it really take them 7 years to develop a bunch of lazy combat arenas?

>>719873253
I was replying to the other guy complaining about his beads.
You don't lose those when dying.

>>719870406
ok but you bought the sequel to a shitty flash game souls slopper so stop complaining er git gud! reddit brethren

>>719877541
Uh oh I smell a meltie incoming

>>719877912
Check ur undies

>>719876530
I love this game so much.

>>719877821
Sure. Instead of hiring more devs they just remains a 2 man team for the most part. Kind of retarded. All that art takes time to draw and animate.

is there a single fucking bench in the hunter's march?

People have issue with these? The only issue I've had so far with the new pogo is that it seems like turning around is delayed or sometimes doesn't work.

>>719878385
Yes. lol

>>719878385
there sure is :^)

>>719862652 (OP)
can't wait for the path of pain version of this

layiayiayiayiaaa

>>719862652 (OP)
>filters 90% of /v/
I always knew you guys where a bunch of low IQ shitters

>>719874024
isn't silk your mana?

This game is the Dark Souls 2 of Hollow Knight

>>719862652 (OP)
/v/ getting filtered by divekick out of all things is absolutely hilarious
play pic related to practice, niggas, like damn this embarrassing

Didn’t play HK and My only problem with pogo that it doesn’t land from certain height and above

>enemy attacks
>you have to sit and wait for its fucking flurry attack and if you hit it you get parry noises and nothing happens
>enemy has 500 HP btw so enjoy ignoring most of the fucking game because they're pointless
I have HP bloat fatigue

>>719878432
>>719878457
what the fuck was that

>can't even use it as a real bench once you've triggered the trap
this game actually sucks

Can you actually kill this guy?
I've hit him like 50 times already and I don't want to waste my time if he's immortal anyway.

>>719864117
I tried to survive by parrying his attacks, but my reaction time was shitty, so I just pogo his ass, dash not required

>>719878883
Anon...

>>719878945
Yeah, he just has a lot of health but the reward is kinda worth it

>>719862652 (OP)
how can it filter millions if there was only 500k players

>>719876530
it fucking keeps going bro, how high do I need to pogo on the flowers?!!!
I'm scared to imagine path of pain 2.0 for true ending

How do you destroy those purple bee/wasp nest?

>get pranked idiot
Not funny
Didn't laugh

>>719878883
pull the lever Kronk

>>719879087
hit it a lot, use aoe spell to kill both it and bugs it spawns

>>719862652 (OP)
my only problem with the game is that enemies are too spongy and they introduce new enemies inside arenas with multiple enemies. I legit feel like I am doing something wrong because they are taking way too long to die and I take at least 2 damage from almost everything.

where can I upgrade my needle?

>>719874148
>Don't aim for a diagonal line
I literally do and haven't missed, just stop having bad spatial awareness

>>719879131
Holy fuck this encounter SUCKED

>>719879052
Yeah on steam, it’s on every console too

>>719864285
>Toss spike traps / spear it between it's charges.
>Single wind attack: jump over it
>Double wind attack, jump twice and stand in one spot.
>Enrage wind attack, let the wind pass, then jump again after the wind returns.
I think Moorwing was way easier then that faggot in the temple in Hunter's, it feels hilarious bad when it decides to summon two of those spike bugs, holy shit...

>>719879189
I'm way farther than I've ever seen a screenshot posted and I still have no idea if there's needle upgrades in this game lol

prison sequence is kino

Anyone in act 2 knows where is the harpoon ? I'm starting to unlovk shortcuts that uses it but since I don’t have it, I can’t even use them.

>>719871779
it was so cool doing the leaning can trick for the first time

>>719879317
I just went o an arena where they introduce this flying enemy that throws 3 fucking daggers at once and he takes 8-9 hit to die and now I also have this bird enemy with multiple moves that also takes 8-9 hits to die and i can't charge the special move fast enough to kill them. i beat the arena but it was pure luck

>>719862741
>Lets change pogo to be absolutely unuseable
SHIP IT IMMEDIATELY, SHADOWDROP IT IN SEPTEMBER RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

>>719879189
no upgrades bro, time to git good
Try this combo with base nail: dash attack-> instantly neutral forward jump attack -> dive kick
It's very fast burst dmg. Bonus vault over for backstab attacks if able.
Also luring enemies into nailtraps is good, it's 2-3 nail hits worth.

>>719872985
What items do you miss out on for skipping it?

>>719879317
There's one in the bell town, and for the 2nd upgrade you'll need to get an item located in the capital and give it to the same guy.

>>719879458
I've got bad news. The entire game is like this. Bloated HP enemies and combat arenas with flying enemies that throw projectiles.

>>719879037
why are you lying about the reward

>>719875778
>primal aspid pattern but harder to hit and has more health
They knew what they were doing.

>wall jump
>wall run
hot damn

>>719874198
I don’t think boomers are the ones complaining you retarded gen z faggot. You grew up on Roblox while I grew up on mega man.

>>719879317
There are, but it barely improves damage.

>>719879557
it's good when you need a bunch for a quests later and wasted all the parts on tool refreshes

>>719875682
>Do you unlock the normal sword as a weapon

Around 6 hours in you get to an area called Greymoor. Immediately go left and try to find an area called Chapel Of the Repear. Over there you can find a crest that makes your pogo behave just like the hollow knight pogo. Have fun anon.

>>719862741
it's not their fault everyone played hollow knight right before silksong came out

>>719879131
I almost beat this fight and then I accidentally ran out of the door trying to dodge and it reset the entire fight

Why would you not lock the fucking door

>>719879517
I am sorry but how am I supposed to get good when all this shit is random. the bird guys drop out of the skies at random intervals. It is basically rng, same for that one arena that you fight with the map warrior on your side.
>it enters the arena to help you, his hits knock back enemies out of you attack range. they introduce a new flying enemy that also attacks at random intervals and direction.

Where does Sherma go after you see her in the bell town? Anons saw her at traveller's rest but I didn't and the only other place I can think of is the desert area with the door but there's no sign of them.

im pogoing this far only to learn that you can ride the wind current
i havent even unlock dash to travel the room on the left
honestly its a bit hard, and i can see a lot of people frustated by it. but once you get the hang of it, its kinda fun

>>719879131
I beat this fucker on 1 hour of sleep, just get gud and it's not a problem.

>>719862652 (OP)
It's like they read the complaints about pogoing in Fungal Wastes and decided they should just filter retards in the first hour.

>>719874169
Traps are really fucking useful and you should always have a few

>>719879746
This is part of the reason why I didn't. I knew it was going to be different enough for fresh HK muscle memory to be more of a curse than a blessing.

Wow, seems like Silksong was worth the hype!

>>719872914
Wait the fucking bat is what you guys are crying about?
Its one of the easiest bosses in the game.

If you beat the hunters crest boss you can beat it one handed.
What the fuck

>>719879756
>Why would you not lock the fucking door
So that I could run away when I went in there before getting the bench.

the game would be more fun if you halved every boss HP

the movesets are not interesting or complex enough to justify taking 50+ hits

I feel like half the complaining with pogo sticking is that it's specifically ass on controller, it's fine on keyboard although it does feel random wether you make half the flower to platform jumps

>>719879521
Don’t think you miss any items because you can just go back

>>719872914
you didn't beat the game

>>719880017
it's very fun to combo your moves and play floor is lava

>>719862652 (OP)
Figured these out right away, you niggas are bad at games

WTF IS THIS
is the "COLLECT 25 SPINES" "quest" real right now?
are they really FORCING you to go around in a loop in an area TEN TIMES because there are like 4 mobs that will drop that item SOMETIMES so you need to go in and out of the area god knows how many times before you can get the powerup to get out?
seriously what???

>>719862741
Only issue I have with the new pogo is on certain things(mainly those balloons on the right side of Greymoor) when you land the pogo sometimes Hornet just does a second swing immediately for some reason even if my finger isn't anywhere near the attack button. It's only like a quarter of the time too so I'm convinced it's just a glitch. If the nail hits empty air it's fine, but sometimes it either hits the balloon again killing my momentum and sending me backwards, or it does another pogo if I'm still holding down so I just go sailing over it and have to start again.

>>719880135
Yes.

>>719880027
I've watched streamers using a goddamn switch pro controller, hitting every flower flawlessly. It's a simple skill issue

>>719880135
attack once, attack all the spines it shoots, attack twice, attack all the spines it shoots, etc
depending on where the hooker is you can get like 5 spines from her

>>719880135
???
you get 6 per enemy ez

>>719879948
I think it’s because it has a lot of split second attacks that can easily combo off each other in its second phase also it randoms like to just fly down to the floor even when it’s not doing its charge attack

>fixes your shitty game

thank you FLiNG

>>719880135
Hit the spines that are stuck in the ground/walls

>>719875743
I can and have changed to it but I just think its more annoying and less fun than the old pogo. Its different for the sake of it and doesnt really add anything.

>>719880135
Skill issue. I got it done in half a loop.

>>719863624
Do you need to unlock an ability to pogo on those because I swear I just phased through them the first time i tried.so I just assumed.

>>719880239
Holy fucking cring-
>rosary multiplier
fine, I'll take it

How the fuck am I supposed to avoid the Widows Bell attacks?

>>719880135
it is one of the easiest side quests, they shoot their spines (aka spikes) on the ground and on death, just break them and collect them.
the hard one so far is the stupid ass lava bug

The 24 hours have taught me two things: /v/ is very bad at video games, and /v/ is very very stupid.

>>719880135
They shoot out multiple spines with each hit and take 3 hits to kill. I only had to re-enter to pick up the last 2 spines and that's because I'm bad and slow and let a few despawn.

>boss falls on you
>you die
great game

>>719880135
Believe me, you'll look back to this shitty fetch quest fondly. It only gets worse.

>>719880226
Its got 4 attacks, never fakes you out and never mixes them up
Half up of you just jump up and half you take 2 steps back.

Like its not spawning a million adds, its not covering the fucking screen in traps, its notcovering you in goo and making you button mash, its arena isnt tiny as shit.
Its honestly I think the second easiest part 1 boss behind the fire giant

>>719880341
Nah, that's EZPZ. Just take as many hits as you can right at the begining, gain distance and spam knives, pogo to finish.

>>719880379
>It only gets worse
Why did they add quests? No one liked them in the DSvanias.

Just switch to Wanderer, lil bro.

>>719880135
I get a black screen and nothing happening where I transfer them.. Is this a bug?

>>719880348
Did you think the thing about /v/ not playing games was a meme or something?

>>719880116
Yea silly I’m only like 6 hours in

>12h in
>first needle upgrade
ebin

>>719877821
Lets see your game, anon

>>719873805
and because it's diagonal you can't just use dpad like normal, the game forces you to move to stick. it's unnatural to alternate diagonals on the stick during platforming sections and it feels bad.

>>719880470
lies

People who got the entire village murdered by the tyrant, you could have just done the quest to kill it and keep it alive lol

>>719863954
Which way do you go for that crest? I've found the Beast and Reaper chapels but the Beast boss filtered me so I went somewhere else for a bit and I haven't tried the Reaper one yet.
I'm currently fighting Sister Splinter and taking a break because one of the spinny adds she calls can instant kill you because Hornet has no i-frames for some fucking reason

I don't get why they made the game this hard, hollow knight wasn't a hard game at all, in fact it was pretty comfy most of the time, it just happened to have a relatively difficult endgame and that one bullshit dlc for hardcore gamers but it wasn't the core of the game
I'm not against difficulty but when everything is hard and harder with barely any breathers in a 30+ hours long game it's just tiring
You don't even feel good about beating a hard boss anymore because there's an harder one just 5 minutes later, and then another, and another...

>>719880320
Yea I think all mobs should drop rosaries like I get that “normal” bugs drop them because they are on a pilgrimage but man everything wants them

YAY YAY KEEP SPAWING ADDS YAY PREPARE TO DIE YOU'LL LOSE YOUR SOULS OVER AND OVER AGAIN

Is there only 1 wish for the fleas?

can't wait for people to fight widow
the actual filter of the game

>>719869453
I think this is my only real issue with the combat in this game. When a boss did double damage in Hollow Knight, you know it meant business, it was rare so it was a big deal when it happened.
Now every boss with no exceptions I've seen all do double damage all the time so getting masks doesn't feel as good as it should because in the back of your head you know the first one isn't going to mean jack shit to helping you survive a boss. Even an annoying amount of regular enemies do double damage.

>>719864285
Funnily enough
if you find five fleas then you can turn them in and travel with their caravan right on top of his arena and literally straight up skip the fight

>>719880592
Think only silly part is so many attacks doing 2 masks worth of damage so even with a mask up grade you can still only get hit 3 times

I'm getting filtered by the ant combat room and I'm close to smashing my pc. I hated HK challenge rooms

>>719880592
Its same reason why dark souls turned into this autistic boss input reading faggotry
People keep screaming how hard a game is when in reality its just fair.

So the devs start leaning into it

>>719865235
If you look at the menu entry for it, it seems to show the there are only three upgrades for it.

Hey I heard you didn't like doing no damage so we added a charm that makes you do more damage but now everything else does even more damage

>>719880435
Yeah, actually. I thought it was just jokes and shitposting. Yes there is a lot of those two things in these theads, there is also a significant amount of people getting irrationally angry at a video game because they are too stupid to understand the most obvious mechanics or master even the most basic of controls.

/v/ is genuinely stupid and bad at their hobby. Instead of making an effort to improve themselves they shit their pants and cry about it.

>>719880623
>hit boss
>kicks back because of the dive attack so you're sa-
>nvm the boss just gets paint.exe cut and dragged to your position anyway eat 2 damage lmao
I hate how flying enemies just fucking instant transmissions away from your attack regardless of your speed.

>>719863624
It feels really bad against mobile enemies because of the narrow hitbox. Feels fine for traversal but not really a combat tool anymore.

>>719880784
Uhm, welcome to 8 hours ago when we already cleared that

>people talking about x or y boss but I literally don't remember the names of any of them because it's all just generic shit
Lace is the only one I remember and that's only because she's cute

>>719881010
>everything else does even more damage
Enemies in this game might as well oneshot you lmao

>>719862652 (OP)
so glad they amped the difficulty so the shitter redditors and geriatric boomers endlessly seethe and get filtered. aside from the fucking bead farming ive had to do this game has been a complete upgrade in every aspect to the original and the challenging bosses have been fun as fuck. im completely hooked

>>719880592
You are overreacting, it's not that difficult at first. Hollow Knight was just too easy for like 90% of the game, so in contrast any sort of challenge in silksong seems too demanding. Plus it's a second game in a series, kinds of expected you;ve played 1st one and has some experience in platforming.
They've overturned some shit most likely because devs were playing their own game for 7 years and skewed perspective

>>719880923
Are you using tools? Cause tools help a lot. Also you silk spear eats, and often times it is better to spend silk on that to avoid getting hit in the first place rather than try and fight it out and squander your silk on making up for your mistakes.

>>719880897
Wait fuck I skipped a boss doing that? Shit I'd better go back then.

>>719881014
funny that you'd assume that, /v/'s hobby is gooning
proof: look at the catalog at any moment

>>719880784
Widow ? That wasn’t too bad, the last Judge however...

>>719881010
they should add a charm that only increase damage taken, NOT damage dealt too. like in elden ring

>>719862652 (OP)
getting the reaper crest helped me so much. that down attack is so good. getting it isnt as dick flattening hard as beast crest fight either

>>719881091
your post is generic, no one will remember you

>>719881071
It only feels bad because enemies right now feel unpredictable to you, once you figure out where they're standing or hovering after an attack you can still juggle enemies

>>719881049
I feel like I wouldn't hate this as much if Hornet had any invincibility frames so I don't smack an enemy, have it teleport onto me, then triple tap me for instant death.

>>719881179
I don't really visit /v/ that much. I post in the Friday threads, and occasionally check it out when there is a game I am interested in. As for the gooning that is every board on this site for the last 7 or 8 years. Thirdies don't actually have hobbies or interests, they just have different genre's of masturbation.

>>719881167
I think you’d have to start another save

>>719881243
That's why I post in 4chan, correct.

>>719862652 (OP) People not talking about the mofo at the devil's asscrack of Deep Docks that flies and hurls tactical nukes with Flak Jacket and Martyrdom Pro. I 112% HK with ease but bro killed me 5 times trying to get a single rosary chain.

>>719874356
being able to heal without waste from 2/5 to 3/6 health is a large deal

>>719881278
no, that's not the real reason you post here

Is there only one life upgrade in the whole game?

>respawning flying adds
really? every single boss?

>>719881119
Yes hi hello shill nigger

>>719881245
Its certainly not impossible, but the hitbox is DEFINITELY smaller and it feels much less intuitive to use than pogo which is faster, wider and doesn't change your arc.

>>719881257
the sword needs more knockback, at least for smaller pissant enemies. if I hit some flying little fuck with my sword, it shouldn't keep coming at me and hit me before I can recover

>>719864973
>varg
What a huge faggot

>>719881119
>the challenging bosses
The bosess are boring. Lace and the robot were the only interesting ones so far.

Im just annoyed theres like zero middle-ground
Areas either
>Like 3 benches, multiple shortcuts and fast travel node
OR
>Zero benches, and a 5-6 screen of platforming and dodging a million enemies to get back to the boss
It starts getting REAL bullshit later on

It also feels kinda worthless to really explore.
Slight off paths have all the good shit, if you find something really secret, some hidden wall with a long platforming bullshit, it will have like 20 rosary or something equally dogshit.

Also the platforming later on sucks ass, those fucking white flowers are a million times worse than the red ones everyone crying about

>>719881536
the bounce pads stop being annoying once you unlock the hover dress

>>719878597
No, it's the Bloodborne of Hollow Knight.

>>719873684
they saw everyone hated the aspids and decided to make the game funny

>>719881485
>robot
The one after float cloak?

>>719881585
bloodborne is good though

>>719881583
They become annoying when you need to bounce, hover, bounce because the game expects you to use everything again.
You need to hit the same white flower multiple times in order to get launched high enough and you need to do some real finnicky bullshit to do so.

>bird arena
no no no no AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>719881591
People hated the aspids?

>>719862702
Fpbp
If you bad, just git gud

>>719881585
No it’s The Surge of 2d indie slop. BB shits on this FOTM slop

>>719881412
hello balding man in his late 30s that cant come to terms with the fact that he lost

>2 minute run of absolute nothing between bench and boss
it's weird, I'm pretty sure game designers already conceded this was really bad design over a decade ago.

Is there any indication if you missed anything on the map?

>>719881730
yeah, their off centered tracking patter is hard to unreliably predict, along with keeping distance and being in areas full of other hazards

>>719881716
Dont worry anon the reward is
Platforming, enjoy the baloons nigger

>9 hours for the first mask upgrade
>even after autistically hitting every wall and backtracking for secrets
brutal

>>719873136
You wouldn't believe it!

>>719881831
lol

>>719881485
widow and the beast boss gave me a good thrill, besides the obvious lace pick

>>719881851
I got one sooner than that. you unironically missed one.

>>719862741
I don't know what they're were smoking. It worked perfectly in the first game, why the fuck did they have to make it so retarded in the second?

>>719880494
You don't need to push a diagonal input to do it, just down+attack

>>719881643
So is Silksong

>>719881932
to make you upset and uncomfortable, unironically

>>719874223
lol fuck no

>>719879942
>the subreddit dedicated to meteoidvania is getting filtered like crazy
lmao

>>719879745
What is this bs
Buy a key from a first merchant
Open a door on top of the first camp
Go through worm tunnels to the west and south, fight some dudes in a dome right on the left of the starting area. Its in the first 2 hours of the game, you dumb fuck

>>719862652 (OP)
The ability for this board to screech about inane bullshit is fascinating

the WoW quests are growing on me because they make you go back to previous areas and fight new enemies. It's a pretty cool idea

>>719881849
i just got there, what a fucking troll. i couldn't even get my beads back until i beat them.

>>719882051
Everything on the floor is fair game, such are rules of the bug kingdom.

>>719881931
doubt it. you're probably just progressing faster than me

>>719864973
The entire map system is unfathomably funking retarded.
>you now need to equip a compass to see where your character is on the map
>the fucking compass takes an entire item slot for some fucking reason
This isn't even mentioning how heavily padded out the map purchases are
>rosaries just to see the benches on the map
Just, Lmao.

>>719882112
The skill you get at the top for doing its pretty strong though
Ive been using it for a while now

>>719871201
No your webm is the awful crap that needs to stay out of games

>wait 2 weeks to see if it gets fixed
>refund now
Can't decide.

Finished the game in 5hours. It was pretty easy.

>>719882207
oh shit, that's good news.

>>719878945
People were so dramatic that I thought it was gonna take forever. Takes like 20 hits, just a bit annoying.

if you're struggling with the combat I highly recommend using your skills and the red weapons, they are very very strong. It's a game changer for hard encounters

>>719881931
where the fuck are they? im at the belltown and have only acquired 2 pieces. i remember there being one i couldnt reach in deep docks but thats it

>>719881148
I did it but now the beastfly is raping me

>>719882186
>you now need to equip a compass to see where your character is on the map
>now
It was the biggest issue people had with HK.

>>719881420
Only complaint I have with wanderer crest is it changes your lunge attack, it's like your bread and butter on the default moveset

>>719879037
>the reward is kinda worth it

lmfao

>>719882252
Silksong punishes retards who only ran nail builds in Hollow Knight.

>>719882293
Was that a thing in Hollow Knight? I honestly don't remember.

>>719882317
yes, that's me. I prefer to just use the nail, and I'm getting fucked up.

>>719882342
https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Wayward_Compass

>>719882293
except now equipping the compass is way more expensive than it was in hollow knight

>>719882342
>Was that a thing in Hollow Knight
yes, albeit the cost is higher in silksong (1 charm slot vs one... tool slot? whatever it is called)

>>719882186
>>you now need to equip a compass to see where your character is on the map
Only if you are a retard and don't know how to read the map
Also, I am using compass, because I am a retard

>>719882317
So true xister, using your main attack is wrong.

>>719882342
NTA but it was. Took up two charm slots.
I really don’t get it either they must have known that literally everyone had it on 100% of the time so it should have just been a flat upgrade. Instead it forces you to use mutually exclusive charms now lmao.

>>719882482
retard

>>719882493
>Took up two charm slots
?

>>719882493
Wayward compass only took up one slot

>>719882252
I can’t into up+rb

>>719882482
Tools = Charms you retarded cuck.

Did you play Hollow Knight charmless?
Exactly.

>>719882493
Swap it before boss
Just wonder around without it
Learn to read the fucking map

>>719882493
>two
One.

im probably alone on this but it's one of my favourite things about this game so far lol. i love getting chains of them. It's simple once you understand the mechanic (its rhythm)

>>719882574
luckily you're only doing it like three or four times a fight

>>719882576
nta but I never had to stop playing the game and grind charmium when I ran out in HK

>>719881851
The character progression is so bad in this, almost no health, silk or needle upgrades, barely any charms...
It's like they wanted to do a full action plateformer this time but they forced themselves to do the bare minimum to keep it similar to the first one

just look at this slut

>>719882574
>>719882373
The only negative thing about the game, is a clunky way of using tools
Rb + up?
Fucking really? Why its not Y?
Why the lance, that wastes silk is on Rb and super useful and free tool is on Rb + Up?!

>>719882749
well that's literally how it works in castlevania

The game only started feeling fun after I got sprint

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE NAIL UPGRADES
THE FLYING BASTARDS IN GREYMOR TAKE FOREVER TO FUCKING KILL! I SIT THERE WAILING ON THEM AND THEY REFUSE TO DIE!
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE NAIL UPGRADES GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

>>719882713
>almost no health, silk or needle upgrades, barely any charms
They can't even change that with a patch, it would require reworking many parts of the game.

>>719882786
And why its relevant to this game? Its a different game. I heal during the boss fight less times, than throwing a trap. Trap is basically free boss stun moment

>>719875778
That guy is the easiest of the bird enemies to deal with by far
>If he's flying just get under him and he can't hit you while you jump and hit his ass
>If he's on the ground just short hop over the lowest projectile and hit him
I think the regular small birds might actually be worst ones

>>719882868
There's 2 upgrades in the entire game and you barely deal anymore damage, at most you'll kill in 8 hits instead of 10

>>719882786
In Wizardry 6 it works differently too.

>>719882925
what trap are you using that stuns the boss? mine only damages it
>>719882941
>>719875778
that bird room encounter with those fags was cancer.

Buy the trap from forge daughter you absolute idiots.

>this dumb ass greymoor flying enemy sequence
This is the ultimate filter.

>>719877480
>Flying ant throws projectile
>Fucking input reads and throws it over your head when you go to jump over it
What an asshole

>>719883014
If you deal ~20% of boss hp, it is stunned. Trap does 3-4 hits, you can actually upgrade your trap damage, and throwing 6 traps right at the start or at the end skips entire phase.

>>719882868
after the boss at the end of belhart, youre almost there anon!

FUCK WIDOW
That's all.

>>719883129
oh I didn't realize you could stack traps

>picrel, stacked trap

>>719882963
What actual fucking gay shit is this.
>>719883064
I got the trap but it doesn't do enough damage. It takes way more than what you can carry to successfully clear the bird fuckers for example.
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY DAMAGE

>>719862652 (OP)
fuck that gay diagonal garbage
the first game had it and then they ruined it

>>719862741
Skill issue.

I beat the widow, and I'm back at belfast. Where do I go next?

>more thread on hit enemy
>enemy health vastly reduced
>bead economy pumped up (either more beads from enemies that already have them or beads from enemies that don’t have them)
anything else sir?

>>719883237
Dublin

>>719883202
>WHERE THE FUCK IS MY DAMAGE
Nowhere. Modern games aren't supposed to be fun, they must be as hard as possible so you laugh when streamers lose.

>>719876371
like 100 rosary beads in the room next to them.

>Find a thing that costs 80 beads
>All it does is make a rosary string that you can break for 60 beads
I get you won't lose the strings if you die, but why would you do this

>>719878883
hidden room to the left of the bench

>>719862978
Practice makes perfect. Anons are gay babies who suck.

>>719883412
what

>>719866481
You answered your own question.

>find locked door
>buy key for 500 beads
>progress through 3 zones where no enemies drop beads
>have to skip rests and fast travel unlocks

luckily i had some "break this for beads" items. those zones are bullshit

>>719870949
It's a taunt button anon.

>>719883580
beadlet issue

>Act 1
>you're completely fucking rosary starved the entire way wherever you go
>Act 2
>reach the city
>the game shits rosaries at you

WHAT THE FUCK

>>719883412
that's literally it unless there's an NPC or quest later on that collects the strings.

>>719883580
there's a really good bench to farm them in the deep docks

>I waited 7 years for an overturned kaizo hollow knight designed for autistic speedrunners to the exclusion of everyone else
nuke australia

So I can just ignore 99% of enemies since they don't drop beads?

>>719883412
So that you don't lose the strings if you die

>>719879131
I did it first try, unironically.

>>719883820
The "haunted" ones do drop beads though.

>>719883818
/thread

>>719883820
Pilgrim bugs drop beads. Random critters drop shards for your traps.

>>719879819
there isn't any real benefit going there early tbqh

>>719883907
Just don't die

>reach bird boss at the end of graymore
>die a few times
>figure ill go explore some side areas, get some upgrades, and tackle it when im stronger
>end up circling around the entire map back to the boss
>boss despawns
>my hp/damage/silk meter havent been upgraded
>ive only found 1 worthwhile slotted crest thing (the one that gives you 1 extra hp on death)

where the fuck are all the upgrades??? it feels really bizarre to be this far into a metroidvania and still have the starting stats

>>719880323
I cheesed it

>>719862652 (OP)
>>719862741
Only absolute fucking shitters get filtered by the diagonal pogoing.

>>719862652 (OP)
just get wanderer, it fixes the whole game

Beat the beastfly. Honestly the backtrack between the bench and the boss pissed me off more than the boss itself desu.

>>719862652 (OP)
are people seriously struggling with the new pogo? I don't consider myself very good at games at all and I had it down by the time I was facing the first boss. Just take the chances the game gives you to experiment. There's even that one room with the flying enemy and the berry on the ceiling where you're clearly meant to pogo off the enemy for the berry you can practice in

>Savage Beastfly
What the fuck is this fight

>>719884041
The bird boss guards the entrance to an important town

>>719864285
You can skip him by doing the flea quest. Happened to me by accident.

>>719884152
i reached the bell town from the opposite side and the bird boss is gone lol

>>719884041
posts like these make me want not to finish the game
I am a few hours in and I feel like I barely made any progress, can you really not upgrade your nail?
and where are the fucking mask shards? if they are so rare and all the enemies do 2 damage whats the fucking point of going above 5 masks.....

>>719877480
How the fuck do I get the map lady to help me fight here?

>>719881316
Bro has WMDs and is just chilling down there

this took me 15 fucking tries. even had to kind of abuse the silk cocoon left when i previously died.
the boss kind flies way too low even on idle and his attacks do too much damage. this game has been pretty miserable so far, it got to be point i dont even want to fight enemies because they take so much damage. there's got be be some sort of damage upgrade I am missing, there is zero chance they thought any of this is good or fun.

>>719884256
wait until a complete 100% guide is out for a verifiable account.

>>719884143
Once you get its pattern, the boss itself is actually quite easy. What's hard is the random critters that he summoned that could shit up your fight.

>>719884074
the run back to the boss was the worst part of the majority of them in HK too

>>719884314
>damage upgrade
There are like 3 of them and each upgrade barely improves damage.

>>719884314
>kunai bar is full
there's your problem.

>>719882740
Me at the top.

You know the real reason people are crying about this? You could spam the pogo till you connect while the dive kick fucks your ass if you don't time it right.

>>719880518
Ironically enough I needed to do some pogojumping with some flies right above the village going left.
You can end up on the other side of the ruined chapel and if you keep going left [you'll easily find the temple with the crest in it./spoiler]

>Spent all memory upgrade on the 1st crest before I found another crest
Did I fuck up? Is my game bricked?

>>719884314
if that took you 15 tries then you are gonna struggle with Widow

>>719862818
>>719865475
Just get a controller with macros and change a keybind to "R+up"

>>719884486
Or just use steam input and put your controller in D-input. My controller has two back buttons and I used steam input to bind them for the sub weapons.

>>719884385
yeah, because that stupid thing helps SOOOOOOOOO fucking much, it barely does any damage even after I upgraded i on the weapons smith

>>719884474
Oh is that the locked door above the chapel? I found it but didn't have a simple key so I turned back. I did get a key later, but I found a second door and haven't used it on either because I was debating which was a better first pick.

Man I have too many games to play and the weather outside is gorgeous too... Torn between going swimming, finishing Signalis, and playing Silksong...

>>719883412
That's the reason. HK already had the relics as a form of money you don't lose on death. This is just being able to buy them.
Sekiro has it too.

>>719884484
it did because the mother fucked kept flying too low from the ground when he was not attacking and he killed me twice after he stuns because he actually damages you when falling.

So should I just cheat?
I want to enjoy this fucking game so badly but I just can’t contend with the sponginess of these fucking enemies

>>719884314
use tools in boss battles

>>719884561
idk man, that thing shreds through normal enemies for me

>>719884614
silksong also has the relics

>kill the beast fly or whatever
>get a "crest"
>crest changes how you have to jump on these things after you already learned the bullshit diagonal jump

Honestly I'm starting to think the devs are fucking retards. Who the fuck even approved that decision

>>719884314
I don't get how people die to this boss.
He's 10 times easier than the chapel of the beast boss and sister thistle.
At least you fight him 1v1 and there are no random shitty gimicks.

>>719883412
>Explore
>Dies and lose all your shit
>Go explore again, low on health and you find a paid rest bench
>Wow I'm out of rosaries, luckily I have a quickie rosaries I can break to pay for this rest bench

>>719884691
Beast is the cuck crest.

Real SilkQUEENS use the Reaper and Wanderer crest.

>>719880518
I killed her easily once I realized that you can oneshot both her adds with your magic aoe.
And without the adds you just have to make sure to focus down the vines when they come down so you have space to dodge.

>Come into /v/ expecting to get spoiled
>Everyone is still only in act 1
kek

>>719884848
I still haven't seen anyone post what the title of Act 3 is.

>>719884824
I tried, but fucked up and was too close so it just clipped into me.
At least for the first phase I didn't even bother with the vines myself, I just baited her into attacking them and breaking them herself. I don't know if it saved any time, but it felt classier.

>>719884620
skill issue

>>719884620
you can whale on everything in this game who cares how much health they have if they die in 5 seconds regardless

>>719881843
>>719881730
The trick was let them attack first, dodge around projectile to wall them. No one wants them to live so they rush them and get blasted, every time.

>>719884923
every enemy has 12 million hp and a hitbox the size of a grain of sand

>>719884969
that's not true with the new health system?

>>719884919
She later does a move that fills the whole area with vines with only a small safespot in the middle.

>>719885046
Noted. I'll take a few more cracks at her after lunch.

I DID IT

>>719884691
Lack of internal playtesting. TC are like 4 guys.

>>719884656
Yeah, I know. I'm saying these are like purchaseable relics in addition to the found ones.

>>719885156
ADINA

>>719880454
If you quit the game resting on this bench Hornet is caught in the silk when you start the game.

>>719884591
go swimming, fool, the games will still be there when it'll be cold and rainy

>“hey so does it stop being horrible soon? I’m at (), do I get an upgrade soon?”
>“you’re only at ()? it gets much worse and never lets up and also there’s 2 upgrades in the whole game and they do nothing”

>>719882963
You better be joking nigga

Here's some Act 1 tips for the lads here:
>you can heal mid-air
>you don't NEED to go to Hunter's March
>if you're that chuffed about diagonal pogo there are two decent crests that alter your attack style
>TIE UP YOUR ROSARIES
>do the flea quest if you don't want to fight Moorwing
>Four Choirs is a gimmick fight
>buy the trap tool from Forge Daughter
>USE YOUR FUCKING TOOLS YOU RETARDS
>AND USE YOUR SILK SPEAR TOO
Don't be dumbdumbs. Jesus.

>>719884591
Go swim retard

>TIE UP YOUR ROSARIES
why would i do that when the string costs more than what it holds?

>>719885271
you wouldn’t take advantage of the princess while she’s all tied up would you anonymous?

>>719885420
>USE YOUR FUCKING TOOLS YOU RETARDS
what does that even mean
i have a tool pouch but it ain't doing shit? i mean i equipped compass etc
i STILL don't know what the FUCK those shards are for i alway have 400 of them

>>719885498
I'm scared of spoders.... She would be the one taking advantage of me ...

>>719885553
Tool pouch buffs tool damage. The shards are for tool refills.

>>719885553
You'll get two active abilities near/ in the lava zone, they use the shards on bench to recharge, you'll be running out of them soon, don't worry.

>>719885553
You'll get two active abilities near/ in the lava zone, they use the shards on bench to recharge, you'll be running out of them soon, don't worry.

>>719885652
>The shards are for tool refills
what the fuck that's gay as fuck
i need to recharge shit now?

>>719885706
Indeed

>>719885608
>anon gets his arachnophobia cured through exposure therapy (cuddling with Hornet)
cyoot

>>719885696
>two actives
knife and? (i'm already at the second part in the sad drab village thing)

I haven't had problems with rosaries, enemies health seem ok for me, not too high not to low. I beat the forth chorus and lance first try, the one that was hard was the first big bug guarding hunters march, with no dash.

The only thing I don't like is the pogo because sometimes I do a normal slash

Are you baiting?

>>719885493
If you think you're going to lose your stuff then 20 < 60.

>>719885802
i've already lost my gold 3 times now, i basically gave up on the idea of buying stuff

>>719885763
spike trap she has in HK, it's great dmg

>rosaries already rare
>the merchant that sells you the tool box size increase charges 30 rosaries for admission

>>719885796
If you just beat Lace then you're not at the point where those things start to become noticeable yet

>>719885920
that's in the lava area? didn't find it

!! DANGER !!

FULL MAP HERE
>>719885657

!! DANGER !!

>>719885796
Have you gotten to greymoor? That’s when the tiny enemies start taking 5 hits to kill

You guys know you can use the tied rosaries in your inventory to get more if you need some right?you can break them

>>719886017
Oops leaving the threads now byebye
Good luck and git gud everyone

>>719886017
Jesus fuck

>>719886017
>all that game and it’s completely unplayable due to excessive difficulty

>>719885947
I didn't even realize that nigger locks you out until I came back (with no rosaries) to try and heal. What a cunt.

POGO CLOSE TO THE FLOWERS

GET CLOSE TO THEM ON THE SIDE

THEN POGO

EASY

>>719886017
I now understand why Citadel is Act 2

>>719886017
I’m so fucking demoralized
How the fuck am I supposed to enjoy this wonderful giant game if it’s THIS HARD THIS EARLY
I’m genuinely not gonna be able to it it

>>719886017
They pulled an Elden Ring

>>719883081
Just go the other way lol

>>719886187
>all that game and only for people who actually play vidya and know how to divekick get to enjoy it due to being based
feels good to be me

>>719877821
How many years did it take you to make yours?

>>719886275
take your time to experiment, you have infinite heals. Practice things like lining up your pogos on enemies so you're ready when it comes to bosses

>>719886017
Team Cherry are fucking lunatics

>>719886365
I really don’t mind the platforming it’s actually pretty fun once you relearn the muscle memory but the FUCKING DAMAGE SPONGES MAN
either my darling spider princess needs more survivability these BASTARDS need less

>>719886521
>you have infinite heals
what are you talking about man
healing seems harder than in HK

>>719886024
>Multiple Craws flapping around
>Try to hit them from the side and they fly up
>Try to hit them from below and they fly sideways
>4 hits to kill each
>This is the most basic variant of this enemy family
SIT STILL AND LET ME KILL YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>719883253
Feel like just making everything have 25% less hp would be better

>>719886671
Fair enough although I’d probably lean towards 35% because some of these fuckers deserve it