Thread 719903028

So this shit is actually good now?
I'm seeing absolutely insane spaceship designs and they're apparently user made??

>>719903028 (OP)
No

>>719903267
Why the buzz then?

>>719903289
First time seeing shilling on /v/?

Here before the saarfields derail the thread

>>719903331
Im not even talking about v specifically, retard. I just saw some cool spaceship designs and now I'm unironically wondering if it's cool now.

do they have multicrew space ships yet

>>719903028 (OP)
no it's still a barren, copy-pasted, wide-as-an-ocean-deep-as-a-puddle snoozefest, they just happened to add a neat feature

>>719903289
Why does any shitty game receive a bunch of buzz? Some shit eating influencers said it's engoodened, people parrot the opinions and they become received wisdom.

The game plays like shit, ship mechanics feel like a student project, exploration sucks, proc gen is souless and random, all mechanics serve no purpose and build towards nothing. It's a randomly generated screen saver, buy it and try it if you must, get scammed like we all did.

>>719903332
2 years later and Starfield lives rent free in your head lmao

Corvettes are cool. You can customise them and actually travel inside them while in space, which adds a huge amount of immersion. The custom designs are great.
>>719903657
Corvettes are multicrew if you want, although functionality is kind of limited. Basically you can build them a room to live in and they can hang out on your ship while you explore/fly around, but that's it really.

However, OP, the game is still the same as it was at launch. Yes, there are new things and new systems and new things to find, but the core gameplay loop is:
>collect resource
>use it to upgrade gear
>upgraded gear collects resources faster
I guess there's some variety with light combat elements in some missions, but realistically 99% of the fun is your imagination.

The gameplay loop is very simple, and most of the new updates are just tests for their next game.

>>719903498
Yea it's cool. As long as you are looking at a primarily exploration game and not an rpg

The story was interesting, its just that everything else was bad to mediocre.
The enemy variety was nothing.
Dogfighting was retard simple and not fun.
It used to lack ship customization totally, you had to just reload in stations and hope RNG gave you a cool ship to buy, of which there were only a couple.
The art style as a whole is fucking ugly.
There are only a handful of ultimate weapons, you will end up wanting one of these and nothing else, and they spawn in set locations.
Other than basic resource collection to build shit you have to pointlessly waste time scanning stones just to understand what NPCs are saying.

Its a 4.5/10 game no matter how much they layer on top.

>>719904079
I love exploration games. Is there enough to explore? My main concerns are that the resource collecting is too much of a grind, and that there's only like 4 types of planets and animals to discover

>>719904423
The resource grind lasts for about 10 hours, after that you usually have stacks of basic resources and it's rarer to have to grind them.
There is more to explore, paradise planets alone have a wide range of variety

>Decorate ship normally, staying well below the complexity limit
>Ship spins out of control at random

I refuse to care about this trash until these incompetent fuckheads FINISH the game.
Tired of every major update being a fucking mess for months on end UNTIL THEY BREAK AGAIN WITH MORE FEATURES

FINISH

THE

GAME

>>719903657
NO

THERE STILL AREN'T EVEN ROAMING ON-FOOT NPCS ON PLANETS

ANY SHILL SAYING OTHERWISE IS COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT

>>719904423
Use the options menu cheats to fix the resource issues and make your own goals.

>>719904727
The spin out thing is if you rebuilt your Corvette multiple times. You have to get it right which at ship creation which is really impossible. It basically thinking shit you moved/deleted is still there and that "nothing" is hitting more nothing and making you spin out.

>>719903028 (OP)
People ask this question after every update and the answer really depends on if you like survival crafting games. If not then no it's a slog

>>719903028 (OP)
it's been good for a while now. the exploration and building is great
but the combat sucks and the resource gathering sucks and it's insanely grindy
the recent update added corvettes which are ships you can build piece by piece

if you only care about exploring and building cool shit it's really not a bad experience, especially if you choose to play on creative instead of survival.
there's also mods that expand building options and remove restrictions

>>719904423
i havent checked back on the supposed biome updates but a lot of planets are just very samey once you find a few. All the updates is just giving you stuff to build and it's not really focused on exploration. Do try it out and see if you'd like it but space and exploration wise, NMS isnt very good at it but then this whole genre of space games struggle with doing things right from the get go.

OP, just play on creative.

The gameplay loop fucking sucks, but exploring and building a cosy space base is fun.

>>719905001
There is no excuse for it.
It's fucking bullshit and I have had enough of these idiots breaking the fucking game.

CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE MY BASE PLANETS DESTROYED AGAIN WHEN THE INEVITABLE NEXT PROCGEN UPDATE COMES OUT

I'm so fucking mad man. Fuck everyone shilling this bullshit. IT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO DONE.

Can you make underwater bases that are cool looking yet. And make a star trek ship

>>719903289
That's just you butt plug xister omgee turn it off

>>719905128
What's insane is that all the YouTubers claim that's all the game is about.
Exploring is the primary focus?
Have these fuckers even played it?

Honestly, I had more fun with Starfield than NMS. It has everything done way better and NMS's new updates and systems are very shallow and buggy too.

>>719905194
This is the coolest ship I've seen built

>>719905354
Well yeah
Despite everything, Starfield has "actual" system mechanics and you can at least have a mildly entertaining shootout.
Every one of NMS's big updates is just adding clutter while the core mechanics remain as barebones as they were on day one.

>>719905194
Yes but they will break the underwater base with an update in about a year's time and the star trek ship is silly looking because of square shaped parts and will glitch out and spin around from lack of playtesting anyway.

>>719905354
>>719905502
you people are insane

>>719905502
They already overhauled the combat and sentinel systems too. This game will never be as good as it easily could be because Hello Games is willfully ignorant of the most common problems the game has had for almost 10 years now.

>>719905469
>Aw man that looks sick
>go to make it from an existing ship
>gane breaking bug makes you spin out of control at random
>Been almost a week and this bug is still around after multiple updates

FUCK Hello Games.

>>719905795
Finish your game, Sean.

>>719905354
>>719905502
starfield is even more barebones than nms you LARPing shills, kill yourself

The problem is they keep trying to sell the game on EXPLORATION and ADVENTURE. If that's what you are looking for this game will let you down.

every planet feels like the same one of 4 basic types reskinned/recolored. even the animals all behave the same. Every planet blurs together.

There is no special planet you'll find 30 jumps away that you can't find almost identical within 2-3 jumps. This and Fast travel + being able to reset missions to your local system makes exploration meaningless.

If it's better compared to mincraft. So if base building doesn't interest you I think you should pass

>>719906432
This is a lie
I've played for 100 hours and still find unique looking planets with unique fauna

>>719906498
>unique
slightly higher hills with a redder shade if grass

>>719903289
Think of it as a $20 spaceship builder and it's decent. There's not a lot of spaceship games where you can do this or that, Starfield sucked.

make 99.9% of planets lifeless rocks and gas giants so finding a single fish actually feels meaningful.

the game is boring as fuck
nothing to explore, fauna is worthless
what's the point?

>>719906561
I hunt paradise worlds and it's enough variety for me. Unique flora and density of it, sky, sea, groun, animals, elevation etc.

>>719906791
but enough about starfield

>>719906432
Bingo.
They have dumped so much effort into resource gathering that actually exploring is still not interesting after seeing maybe one biome from each variant. There is just nothing to do on planet surfaces besides gather resources and ogle a re-color of something you have already seen.
Not to mention the complete lack of procgen dungeons or even roaming on-foot pirates. Sentinel towers, Egg stashes, and Derelicts are ALL there is to find.

There's a lot of basic exploratory content that has been needed for years and they are just refusing to make even a simple version of any of it.

>>719906830
Wow, some trees -_-

>>719906830
I have 114 hours and I have never been to that planet, yet I recognize every piece of it.

>>719906791
Unpopulated planets really should be a little more common. Put abandon "dungeons" like research labs or something on them so the lack of NPCs is made up for.
The game feels way too populated for the lore and title.

>>719903028 (OP)
Its only fun for a bit. I play it 1 hour bursts whenever I'm in the mood for it.

>>719906814
Build an empire and feel pride when a massive ship containing a capitol city warps into orbit over your massive munitions manufacturing facility just outside a huge city you've built on paradise planet without lethal storms.

>>719907749
>build an empire
can you do anything else besides managing a few small houses in a settlement?

>>719907378
I have same amount and only found that type of planet once. The whole is what gives you the experience as you land not individual pieces

>>719906830
I have seen those trees more times than I can count. They are always sparsely placed like that too.

I love this game a lot. It's one of my favorite games.
But you're talking absolute shite. The procgen is bland after maybe 20 planets and that's unreasonable when there's almost 19 quintillion of them.

>>719908008
Again, the constrains of the alghoritm means individual pieces of procgen repeat but you don't judge planets by their individual pieces. Just like you don't humans just by their eyes, which may look similar between two people but their faces are different

I wish someone would license this to build a game on top of

>>719907970
I am happy for you. Wish I was as entertained by simple procedurally generate modular set pieces, but I get bored seeing the same range of rocks and plants for the 100th time. I need to find a deep sea water planet if those exist.

>>719908324
nta but I don't think it's about being entertained, I think it's more about appreciating something for what it is instead of being upset it's not what you think it should be

>>719908659
I never said I was upset, just bored. The more extreme planets are nice. I like the game more for the base, industry, freighter, settlements, and expeditions. The bugs with the Corvettes is what is actually upsetting me. Its like they did zero testing before release. Just dont pretend the basic planet generation is anything special.

>>719907817
You can make multiple forms of bases with multiple methods and make manufacturing facilities that are essentially automated farms that produce a final result of a lucrative resource that is intended to be sold under economies that have affinity for the type.

A munitions manufacturing facility could be as simple a few bio domes but actually building something interesting with a front office and landing pads(which will bring in traveling traders) is the most satisfying thing to do currently.

I had a great time making a bunker stationed outside a Sentinel Tower so that I could go there and start a massive battle from the safety of the bunker when I needed a cash injection or Pugneum.

>>719908324
Purple stars can spawn pure deep ocean planets. They only spawn in purple systems actually. Same as gas giants.

>>719903028 (OP)
It has the same problem as Warframe, It's not new user user-friendly. It overloads you with stuff to do.

>>719908136
But space engine is even more boring because real life planets are 99.9999% boring as fuck

>>719907817
There's a crafting tree that shows you how to make all the most lucrative resources and making a base that can whip one up because of a common local resource is the current longterm meta.

For instance a planet may be rich in a certain mineral and a certain gas that you can easily regularly combine into a manufactured mineral for making circuit boards or something. Managing what bases can manufacture what is mostly down to what resources a planet has.
You could even make an automated mine with interconnected silos so tha when you go to visit it, you have fuckloads of Gold or Silver or whatever and don't have to grind.

Making different looking bases that fit the planet they are on is also very fun.
This pic is a space weed dispensary outside a small town on a paradise planet. It grows money while I scout superior settlements.

>>719909718
Had this issue after coming back to the game since it first released. I figured out that by focusing on the side quests first it set me up pretty well and saved me a bunch of salvaged data. Took a good while to grind them out, all I have left is the farming terminal and to get this settlement out of debt. Then its industry time.

>>719909631
Good to know, I will have to make a nice deep sea base.

>>719910267
Be careful.
There is actually scary shit to find. At least I think so.

>>719905469
>sudden urge to purge xeno scum

>>719910171
I only do salvaged data a few times then cheat for everything else after that.

Fuck that boring repetitive shit.

>>719909476
I don't think anyone's pretending the procgen is anything special, just giving credit where credit is due

>>719910632
No hurting peaceful NPCs allowed.
Infact no humanoid alien enemies whatsoever.

This game is about exploring : ^ )

>>719910587
I beat subnautica in VR. I am going to do the deep sea planet in VR only. Hopefully it will make me shit myself in the same manner.

OP here
Let me ask another way
How many WOW moments will I encounter let's say 20 hours in?
I'm assuming a regular pace, so no grinding

>>719910154
Forgot to mention that you are limited to 6 bases so making a truly effecient empire that can sell and buy from any variety of government requires careful management of those six slots.
Making a base that can only collect or make 1 resource is often a bad idea unless it's automated for something you really hate collecting.

>>719911085
In order to get more than a few wows you will have to grind. Unless you play in creative.

>>719911085
not many, but then again all of my time was spent working towards a singular self-made goal of getting a specific kind of freighter to build on

>>719910810
Eh you'll probably not be too impressed.
Seeing a giant critter emerge from pitch black darkness is unsettling though.

>>719911085
No game on Earth has WOW moments 20 hours in.

>>719910810
Hello fellow VR enjoyer. I couldn't play this any other way. I like scouting out locations to build bases in where I can just sit down and relax taking in the view all around me.

>>719911818
Wrong
Yes normiecore and I may be easily impressed but I had several genuine wow moments way into Witcher
Like entering the big city for example and realizing how fucking big it is

>>719911085
>>719911818
Crysis 1

>>719903028 (OP)
No. It took them 10 years to add basic functions that Starfield had on DAY ONE. And even then, Starfield does it 10 times better. There's no logical reason to play NMS when Starfield exists unless you enjoy simping for hack game devs.

>>719911924
I need to put in the time to tweak the settings so I can get good performance and have the game not look blurry at the same time. Is 90hz realistic?

>>719912069
>>719912095
Ah so it's shit taste.
Please don't play No Man's Sky.

>>719912101
Pathetic. Nobody with a functioning brain likes Starfield and NMS blows it out of the water in every way.
You can't stop what's coming. You will be forced to kneel in due time.

>>719903028 (OP)
They introduced buildable ships. Corvettes or something. Supposedly similar building system to starfield. Game is still the same though but they got new toys to play with in the sandbox.

>>719906398
Not true you fucking shill. Starfield is the game NMS dreams it could be. nMS is just a cheap ripoff.

>>719905194
>And make a star trek ship
I saw a mini Enterprise in-game last night

Does VR with a controller work again yet?
It was busted like 2 years ago when I tried and I still really want to play in VR without the pretend spaceship controls.

>>719906690
>tfw wanna build cool spaceships
>have avorion and empryion galactic survival with RE2 mod
>time to build
>make a fucking METAL BAWKS
Fuck my lack of creativity

>>719912069
So you're impressed by a mostly empty big city but a galaxy with millions of starports in sidequests is too boring?
Just fuck off then. This game is not for you.

>>719903028 (OP)
It’s still a “sandbox” aka NOT A GAME

>>719912648
Starfield sucks and everyone knows it, retard.

>>719912748
Huh? I'm OP, I never said ITT what I'm not impressed by. In terms of space games I've played space engine although it's not really a game, and elite dangerous.

can you make a golf course and play golf?

>>719912931
I think you're confused about what you even said.

I played it only recently and I think it's a pretty good game, if you like sandbox exploration games. If you like more mission focused stuff, you might not like it. Also be aware that there are lots of people who are still angry about the state of the game when it was released. Look at them crying about shills shilling a game that came out 30 years ago in literally every thread

>>719912689
I have the same question.

>>719912431
Peak delusion. Starfield does everything better than NMS. You can't refute that. NMS would be only a mediocre space sim if Starfield didn't exist.

>>719912957
Kind of.
You can use a giant ball respawn device and make a course where the goal lights up if the ball goes in.

>>719913067
Starfield sucks and everyone knows it, little boy.

>>719913067
does it not get exhausting living these contrarian lies that you don't even believe yourself?

>>719913169
>If I repeat something it means it's true
I accept your concession.

>>719911248
that's not true at all though. The only part that could be considered a grind is in the first few hours of the game, and even most of that is optional once you better understand how things work. You might have to manually gather your first stacks of copper, sulphur, oxygen, ferrite dust, and carbon, but after that it's entirely optional. But you can still do it if you want.

Min-maxers really hate this game because it's very easy to break if you want to use various exploits or if you only care about the most efficient way to make money, or get closer to the center of the galaxy, or whatever. But you don't have to do those things, you can just relax and have fun. If you're one of those people who struggles to use anything but the most optimal strategies in video games, then you probably won't like No Man's Sky. It's not about that.

>>719911085
Depends what wows you. Even now sometimes I land on a planet and think it's just amazing, maybe build a base there just so I can come back at look at it. And sometimes even flying in space, things are just really cool.

>>719913301
I made my statement with the casual pace in mind, not using cheats, and obtaining all the engine upgrades to be able to visit all the stars in 20 hours. First time players will get distracted a lot with all the tutorial side quests, In my opinion.

Ok, so if I like building cool bases, like flying around and exploring planets, like building cool ships, will I like it?

That's basically all I ever wanted from no man's sky when it originally came out. I didn't buy it back then because of the negative reception

>>719914114
basically, yeah

>>719914114
that's like 90% of the gameplay so yeah

>>719914114
Yeah. Last I tried in VR, it was comfy af too. Havent touched the game in ages though so idk if it's fucked or not.

>>719903028 (OP)
>>719903289
>>719903498
buy an ad

>>719914495
This is the only game that's tempted me to buy a VR set. I bet it's incredible in true first person

>>719914114
You could call it a shitty game but in VR it's better than most other VR games

>>719915565
retard olympics

I just wish combat was better, on foot there's only the shitty corrupter broods or whatever the fuck and they only appear in specific spots, there's no 'predators' or anything like that anywhere, it's shit, the robots make up for it a bit but also way too limited
and the dogfighting in space is 'ok' but just way too basic, there's no depth to it at all, the different guns, the different ship types, it really doesn't matter, it's just a number game and whether your gun has the numbers to break the shiled of the enemy (it will) and that's it

the rest of the game is great, but the fact that the combat is so terrible just kills any reason to play it for more than ten or twenty hours

>>719903028 (OP)
I can't stand how fucking ugly and gross the plants are. They could have made cool trees, but nope we get these huge disgusting pulsating blobs full of trypophobia shit.

>>719903498
>Im not even talking about v specifically
Then don't go on /v/ specifically. Fuck off back to plebbit where there's zero discussion and everything is "le up to you"

>>719909979
It's not like theres anything more interesting to find on NMS.

>Minecraft in space with seamless non-loading atmosphere entry, voxel terrain manipulation, and NPCs that give quests with dialogue
>Somehow fuck that up for years on end and ignore fan demands for deeper content instead of feature bloat

Most incompetent dev?

>>719914114
That's literally the game.

>>719912957
tell sean you want it, he will prob add it

>>719916074
The lack of true on-foot combat is probably the single biggest problem with this game.

Why are pirates so common yet we never see them looting anything on a planet surface?
Why is it literally impossible to rob on-foot NPCs?
Why implement NPC combat AI for settlements then never use it anywhere else?
Why do Staffs use default animations and look like total shit placeholders when weilding them?

Effort for combat development is non-existent and I've been real tired of it for years.

Isnt it absolutely insane that Sean Murray pretty much lied about just about every aspect of NMS's features before launch and now people just accept it because it took him 10 years to add those features in?

>>719918812
True.
Hello Games seems to be obsessed with adding trivial bullshit instead of dungeons or hostile NPCs.

>>719919306
well most other games that lie about features never end up implementing them at all

>>719919383
I think they are casuals first, making games for casuals. My GF is not coordinated enough to even take down a single pirate. I dont think you understand how low the bar is for the target audience. As in its a game designed to be playable by game journalist, remember the image of their dev team.

>>719919306
He only ever agreed that ideas were good and could be done.
He never said "we came up with this and are going to do it"
He said "Yeah I don't see why we couldn't do that" or "Yeah that will be a feature sure."
It's important to understand he is a retarded autist that didn't understand you can't openly daydream about a game in development ON CAMERA.
Then you had the Sony money at play.
This made it so Sean just said anything he could to get the game to sell initially. If the game sold well enough, Hello Games would get a huge bonus.
This bonus was the lynchpin. Sean realized as the release approached that nearly everything he agreed to was not going to be possible on release.

But it would be if Hello Games could secure enough funding to fully finish the game and implement what people want.

By the time the game was ready to come out he decided that purposely avoiding public contact then finishing the game with the profits was wiser than going "oops I lied" because the game actually could end up what he mistakenly painted for the public with his UTTER RETARDATION.

He is fighting tooth and nail to clear his name and deliver on what he said was possible and I have no choice but to respect that.
About fucking had it with how every update breaks a million things that don't get fixed until the next update THAT ALSO BREAKS A MILLION OTHER THINGS.

>>719919948
That doesn't mean the game can be totally devoid of all on-foot NPC combat.
Sentinels are fucking boring after even the first few hours.

PIRATES NEED TO ROAM PLANET SURFACES, SEAN

>>719920075
He showed off coop and worms in the trailer, both features werent implemented until much later.

>>719919948
That's why cheats are allowed without halting trophy acquisition.
They have no excuse to not at least put easy dungeons and simple gek pirates or something. It's just fucking lazy for there to be so little reason for combat to exist.

>>719920240
>>719920156
Valid, but they seem to want to put more chores in the game instead of combat.

>>719920180
Because that trailer was admitted to being scripted and they had no idea how to really do those things yet. That's part of what I'm saying.
Hello Games is retarded and incompetent, not malicious and dishonest.
If they were malicious and dishonest they would not be paying console platforms $10,000 per update to give people free shit.

The idea they purposefully left out finished features despite popular demand is completely insane.
I get it. Game devs are fucking vermin and always greedy dishonest scum nowadays.

Hello Games are just a bunch of retards that are bad at stuff. It's not that serious.

>>719920427
It makes my piss boil.
LET ME ROB NPCS, SEAN.
SEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN

>>719920240
fyi your easy dungeons are the derelict freighters where you get to shoot at security drones and turrets while being forced to walk at a snails pace.

>>719905354
I really didn't like NMS, but I still had much more fun with it than Starfield. I got Starfield for free and still felt ripped off.

>>719906830
Buy a mouse and keyboard, retard.

>>719921363
I have both. I prefer controller for most games except an fps

least obvious shill thread of 2025

>>719921724
Is it really shilling when I'm literally Sean Murray?

I’ve seen this exact same question regarding NMS since that one 2020 or 2021 update. From the times I’ve revisited the game, it’s not really that special.

>>719905469
>imperium of man if it buddhist

>>719903028 (OP)
Late to the thread but it's fine. Better than it's ever been but still pretty grindy and fussy. Like you collect way too many different types of redeemables (nanites, units, tech modules, quicksilver, data etc) and unlocking tech trees has a lot of scouting and scanning and you kinda realise that that is just the game. It's a toybox where you unlock new toys by exploring and resource gathering. There's a load of side activities you can do but none of them have a lot of depth. The game is also very arcadey and the space combat is basically 3D asteroids. It's fun enough, but if you've played a lot of space sims it's very rudimentary.

Having said all that. I did just spend 4 hours building a corvette.

If you play in 3rd person, you didn't beat the game. That's why the animations and timing seem a bit off. In 3rd person the jetpack timing feels weird, but it feels perfect in 1st person. The game is intended to be played in 1st person.

Cool ship but the combat is still absolute ass

>>719920240
Probably because a lot of violence would feel out of place in an otherwise super peaceful exploration game. I do wish you could rob random ships that land on planets, though. One time some (((gek))) landed on a random extreme planet I was exploring, and they had a nice fucking ship. Trading with them, it was clear they were a smuggler/pirate anyway. Pissed me off that I couldn't just kill him and take the ship, nobody would know. And anyway you kill tons of people when you destroy freighters, and at least 1 when you destroy the smaller ships. I guess that's all off-screen though