Thread 719906693

Why is she so shameless?

reaper crest or wanderer crest? they feel pretty similar

>>719906786
hunter

>hey let's add a debuff that is applied whenever the player touches this water
>said debuff will force the player to heal to remove it, while not healing any damage
>which means they'll have to heal twice if they actually want to heal :)
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA

Bros. I would like to apologize to Act 1 and Silksong.

I thought this area was way too linear but my buddy just called me up and showed me his map. He fucking went to Bellhart before even fighting Lace or getting into Farfields.

am I missing a bench for the last judge or did they really think that much platforming every death was a good idea?

How am I meant to get up there?

>got widow'd second phase
I got spoiled on that and it still fucking happened. What brand of retard am I?

>>719906901
yeah because the flea caravan can warp you

>>719906913
You can't possibly be this retarded.

>>719906960
No. He went through the damn wormways.

Okay, seriously: have I fucking missed the first nail upgrade? Widow is taking forever to kill even with that flea juice boosting my strength.

>Australian game
>boomerang is the best weapon in the game

>>719906912
It's intentional.
Have fun :)

>>719906693 (OP)
Fuck, you made it first. Fair enough, I'll post it here then.

Just killed widow on my 4th attempt and first tried her second phase, why are you guys having so much trouble?

What's the max frame rate on PC?

>>719906960
>>719907002

wait so there are THREE ways to get to bellhart?
man team cherry is wild lmao and thats just act 1

I found a fifth secret. I thought I had them all.

Am I supposed to do something with these gusts of wind or return later once I've unlocked some ability?

how many hours did it take for you guys to beat the judge?

>>719906786
Reaper

>>719907012
Nail upgrade is right after Widow.

You guys seriously enjoying Metroidvania? Yuck
Most of you didn't even touch Hollow Knight

You did beat the Hunter's march fully, right? You didn't run away like a coward, right?

Needle upgrade? A single one pretty please?

I found a fifth crest. I thought I had them all.

Just beat Widow and wanted to kill myself, think I'm gonna take a break from splorin and do my massive list of side quests now.

>>719906786
Reapers crest because it has actual range.

>>719907079
return later

this game design is really dated and boring

I've been out since 4th

post some seething journos articles
wanna get up to speed

>>719906912
Just use a trainer at this point, nobody actually playtested this shit so no reason to waste your time.

I'm gonna be honest, I think Hollow Knight is the better game.
The areas are nice and all, but they kind of blend in each other after you start exploring.
Mobs are also way too fucking tanky, which leads to you having to wait for the right opportunity with every attack.
And this is especially apparant in act 2, when even shitty mobs start doing 2 masks of damage.
The lack of mask and weapon upgrades is also questionable at best. You can't even do something else to get stronger, your only options is to keep bashing your head against a boss until it gives.

>platforming game where you have to perfectly traverse a sea of 1-hit spike traps or start over and then there's a boss fight on the other end
yeah nah. Nope. No more of this game.

are there no needle upgrades in this game? does everything just have 100+ HP? why did the skull tyrant take like 70 hits

there must be something we miss bros

>>719907002
This, what is anon talking about? The wormway is right to the west.

I HECKIN LOVE THE Last judge RUNBACK

>>719907178
You can use 3 fucking tool with it, but the moveset is meh, don't like the down attack. It's diagonal and you have to charge it.

I... am getting filtered bros. I don't know how I'm supposed to get stronger. Don't think I've found any NPC that upgrades my needle, all the tools I have are fairly low DPS or not very well suited for wrecking major enemies or bosses, mask shards and silk shards are rarer the unicorns, my attack range seems tiny, bosses hitting 2x mask damage means I die in 3 hits, etc. Just struggling right now, and I didn't struggle nearly as much in Hollow Knight.

The only really big difficulty spike I remember in Hollow Knight is Soul Sanctum. This game so far feels like it's had 3 Soul Sanctum spikes so far, and I haven't even beaten the big bird in Greymoor yet.

charm system status: FUCKING SAVED

>>719907243
the opening on top is suspicious but I haven't found a way to get up there without beating the judge.
I think TC were just blissfully unaware how annoying the run back is on this one

>>719906882
I'm starting to think requiring a full spool to heal three units of health is actually worse than one pip of soul to heal one unit due to how infrequently you actually have enough to heal

>>719907325
KINOOOO WHERE DID YOU GET IT I NEED THAT

>>719907325
I just got that too. It'll just be my dedicated compass slot though.

>>719907239
Devs kept the balancing from when this was still a dlc and not a full game.

>>719907243
there isn't, the only thing you can do to make it easier is ti go left and up instead of right and up to avoid the first shield guy

>>719906693 (OP)
I hope there will be a lot of fan art themed around the canonical fact that she doesn't care at all about constantly flashing her pussy or even being fully nude in front of people.

>DUDE LMAO WHAT IF WHITE PALACE SAWS DID DOUBLE DAMGE????
I fucking hate these pogo sections so much

>>719907239
did you check the rest of belltown bro?

Fuck this nigger holy shit it's harder than 99% of HK bosses

No I won't use Don Bugxote aid

odds that team cherry nerf a few things, given the reception?

Does the locked door in the forge area give anything good? Used my key in the worm area instead but the item is kind of meh

>pay to build a bridge
>if you fall on it from high enough, it just fucking breaks again

>>719907348
The balancing is just way off. In Hollow Knight it took three hits in order to heal. In Silksong it requires EIGHT hits in order to heal.

>>719906693 (OP)
I have 162 hours in Hollow Knight and I'm struggling with some parts of the game. Can't imagine how some casual player fares right now.

>>719907162
Can't really beat it until you get ballon hornet

>>719906693 (OP)
Anyone have the pic of her undressing when the weaver at the lava place upgrades her red dress?

That's a lot of complainsto start of a thread... Silksissies are you ok?

>>719907093
Took me about 45 minutes of attempts, including corpseruns (even ones where I died running back)

>>719907436
Yes, one of the best tools in the game.

>>719907471
>EIGHT
I meant to write nine. Which is even worse.

>>719906693 (OP)
I fucking hate this so much.
Gotta springboard off this guy to get to the hanging cage.
Then it seems like I gotta leap and time another 1 or 2 dive attacks to clear a long-ass gap. And that is hoping that works, as I of course haven't fucking made it yet.
Miss, and I gotta ride an elevator all the way up from the starting area, and also to a bunch of platforming up to this precipice.
This fucking sucks so badly. If I've cleared the Marrow, how much longer until I can get an air dash or something to jump farther at least make the second half of this easier?

>>719907208
>The lack of mask and weapon upgrades is also questionable at best. You can't even do something else to get stronger, your only options is to keep bashing your head against a boss until it gives.

Is there any way to get stronger hits? I need money so bad but the only way to farm it is to fight red ants and I really want to kill them faster.

So there are 3 locked slots in the crest menu, but there are more than 3 memory lockets. Does the menu expand when you unlock the first 3 or what?

>>719907093
hours?
Like 20 minutes, a good 10 or so attempts
Her spin attack and her rush attack were the only ones that tripped me up.

>>719907476
Widow is filtering me. Worse I can no hit the first two stages but thst last bullet hell with a gazillion hits.

>choral chambers starts playing
https://youtu.be/g5IPnjiJrKI?t=3847

>>719907446
I didn't break it, but I just assumed it would spawn again when you left and re-entered the area if you did so?

Going to Wormways after the dash is genuine EXPLORATION KINO. Unlocking so many fucking areas at once and just being completely lost gave me huge OG Deepnest vibes from HK.

>>719907556
The game is very, VERY long, anon. You're currently collecting pennies when you could be harvesting gold just a few hours later.

>>719907208
yeah well, i much prefer slightly tankier mobs with actual movesets instead of "walks towards you" type of enemy. Like, most mobs are literally more complex than half of Hollow Knight's bosses

>>719907430
Get some help from a npc

10 years of development for the boss to get permastuck in the ledge thing like an agdg dev made this sigh guess ill just do it again

>>719907493
reverse it if you want.

>>719907542
senpai get the dodge first this is infinitely easier if you get the dodge.

>>719907312
The Bird is a soft filter, but it's what's after that's the real filter.

>>719907354
weavenest atla, the NPC there gives it to you. not sure when it's first available though, since she said "come back when you're stronger" after upgrading my crest and i was already "stronger" i guess since she gave me that when i spoke to her again.

>>719907542
you're at the completely wrong place to get the dash anon

>>719907556
Yes, progress the story.

Why do the boss stagger animations deal damage?

I was playing yesterday with the wanderer crest and I was able to pogo. I'm playing today and I it doesn't let me pogo at all with that crest equipped. Am I losing my mind or did something change?

that faggot Ant Knight thats been filtering people becomes so fucking easy once you actually start playing like Hornet. Start dashing and hopping and jumping and backing away from his shit and he becomes so fucking easy its not even funny.
This aint your slow ass Hollow Knight

>>719907243
honestly i was really annoyed at first, but after a few tries i got so good at optimizing the runback that it was kinda fun.

>>719907542
You are going to have to repeat that 20 times, each time you did again a super hard fight if you want to get wanderer crest early. At least, that what I did.
>>719907630
>>719907647
It's entirely doable without dash or any upgrade. It's only a bit expensive to get key at that point, but getting that crest early helped me a lot.

Last Judge is actually a good boss but the run back saps all enjoyment I could have had from it.

SENPAI
WHERE IS THE DOCKS
I WAS TOLD THERE IS A NEEDLE UPGRDE THERE

>>719907556
In act 2 you start to get WAY more beads, for some reason they made the start way harder

>>719907348
No way, it's better because you can heal in the air too.

how do you deal with the birds that stay out of range and throw three kinai at you?

>>719907614
>slightly tankier mobs
It's very obvious you're still in act 1.
You will eventually encounter mobs that requires eight to twelve hits to kill. And this is with the nail upgrade.
>with actual movesets instead of "walks towards you" type of enemy
lol
lmao
You're gonna LOVE act 2. And especially 3.

>>719907713
why the fuck would you bother doing that so early?
wanderer cresh isn't even good

What should i use my simple key on? the door in bone bottom or the one in docks?

i just got the wanderer *happy bug noises* ^-^

>worst attempt on sister splinter yet
>fucked up healing twice after stunning her and she landed on me, kept alive at 1 hp by the bell
>she dies before she even does her fill arena with thorns attack
did the game give me a mercy run or does the bell just do a ton of damage when it activates

>What? You want a boss runback that doesn't that a whole minute?
>You want more than 6hp? You ask for too much! You have become as demanding as you are arrogant you heathen! Was $20 not enough?

>>719907542
Go for it. I did it without the dash. Wait for the ccircling one to get into position, then you can jump and pogo as the nexy one agrosThen enjoy your boss fight lmao.
Then enjoy your locked door lmao

>>719907630
Hornet after I pay her money for SEX

>>719907616
is there a way to summon him? i came across him in sinner's road so i assume my chance to fight with along him is gone.

>>719907761
You stay out of their range, dodge what they throw, then move in to hit and run.
Every enemy is designed to take up as much of your time as possible.

>>719907724
yeah I think I'd like this boss if I didn't have to waste upwards of 40 seconds each time I want to attempt it again

Sorry anons, I'll download the cheat mod for the last judge

I'm pretty sure something will be patched about this boss eventually anyway. I just want to experience the rest of the game

it's gaming time.

>>719907771
I don't know, I just did it. I killed the beast, saw there was a door, farmed for the key then explored that way and got the crest. Run back was a royal pain in the ass to be fair.

>>719907863
shawn't

>just quickly gonna check out this little corner of the map that's still not filled out
>get to the room
>music stops
>it's full of spikes
Oh no.

>>719907430
Do you fight this guy again? I didn't realize you can defeat him in multiple ways aside from the caravan.

>>719907127
Just got it, lol. Fucking ridiculous that it takes this long to finally upgrade it.

>>719907476
I think the game is more or less designed as a DLC for Hollow Knight that assumes you already beat the base game like Shadow of the Erdtree was for Elden Ring. Shame there are no crutch mechanics to help with the difficulty

Is there any use for the hunter's crest ?
I got an evolved version of it but it doesnt seem to do improve anything.

what am I supposed to do with this guy?

>>719907761
throw a boomerang
throw a trap
equip the reaper crest

>>719907815
>6hp
More like 3 with how many enemies deal 2 damage.

Do people actually hate the combat rooms?
Outside of the bird one, which I just used a trap for, I love whenever a combat trap starts.

Hornet is so fun to pilot and the enemies habe so many varied movesets that I want more of that shit.

>>719907172
Why do people keep asking this. Just play the damn game.

>>719907815
>boss runback
literally just run. You're really fucking fast

>>719907164
Here are five pollips. I can't remember where the last one is for the purple flower quest.

>>719908006
It takes 35 seconds to return to Judge

>>719907962
They were fun at first but now I'm just really fucking tired of it.

Honestly of all the Crests I've found so far the unlock requirements for Witch is maybe the funniest
For those that care Do the Pollip Heart quest in Shellwood, progress until Act 2 and then unlock Clawline in the Underworks. This lets you open a Ring doors in a hidden room in the Whispering Vaults, which takes you to a new section of Bilewater, which itself has a secret area where you get an item called a Twisted Bud, which just plays a constant screaming noise while looking at your inventory (yes its annoying). You bring it to the Pollip questgiver, the take you to a new area of Shellwood and locks you out of your Crests and Silk (so no Healing), and you have to talk to NPCs to find this one NPC who can fix it, and then you find them and they need you to go to the Muckroach Guts questgivers in Sinners Road, pay 250 beads, take the item they give you back THEN you get to have your Silk and Crests fixed and get the funniest cutscene I've seen so far

Also it probably has my favorite moveset of any crest so like that's pretty cool

>>719907962
>Do people actually hate the combat rooms?
They are boring and overused, obstructing exploration for shitty fights with tanky enemies

>>719907763
>And especially 3
Jesus christ, they really need to adjust the upgrade progression. Getting one full life mask was a pain and Im still in act 1 with the judge beating my ass.

>>719907803
What bell? I want to cheese this bitch. I hate these tornado fuckers.

>>719907781
Please respond.

Fucking finally

>>719908051
>Getting one full life mask was a pain
I'm in act 3 and I only have two mask upgrades.

>>719906882
Also, it drains your silk meter

>>719908043
shan't be granting wishes

>>719907630
That's so fucking lewd dude.

>>719908045
They barely obstruct exploration though. Just beat them.

>>719907962
I don't like that my beads get stuck in there so I "have" to finish them.

any of this niggas wares good?

>>719906913
You can unlock an elevator

>>719907781
the one in docks gives you a tool to do fire damage for a bit, i'm assuming the other one gives you the wanderer crest

Lace is whooping my ass

>>719907826
Think you have to see the boss die/run away then talk to him again and you will tell him that you been marked and he will be next to the boss area and ask you if you need help

I think the combat and platforming has been improved a lot over hollow knight but for whatever reason exploring isn't as interesting. I think it's because areas are so much larger and filled with more empty space presumably to account for your faster speed. There used to be something new to discover every 5 seconds in hollow knight and it's taking noticeably longer to get that new thing in silksong. I hope updates add a bunch of new stuff all over the maps

>>719908157
how decent is said tool? And what does the Travelers Crest do?

>>719908146
Just buy everything you see.

>>719907820
>HE had to pay HER
lol
lmao

>>719908146
Mask

>>719908064
Warding Bell, you don't take damage if you are hit mid heal.

>>719908182
Yeah the map feels less dense.

>>719907630
bug erotic

I'm glad Team Cherry made the primary enemy of this game the church, killing religious nutjobs is satisfying

>>719908078
Do you want early access to the Wanderer Crest or do you want a tool that adds burn procs to your needle?

>>719908146
where is that dude?

>>719908275
>

Good thing I remembered to stand a healthy distance away after beating the boss a second time.

>>719907348
i see your point but when i feel so fucking good when i at one health and clutch enough hits to heal and win an encounter

>>719907446

I broke it on purpose to see if he would rebuild it.

He didn't.

>>719908230
Does your heal get canceled? I forgot I had it on because I so rarely use it.

>>719908275
Go back to r*ddit.

>>719908301
I don't know what the Crest is or does.

The mid air heal is actually imbalanced lmao

Its literally a free heal against so many enemies

>>719908146
mask is really good

>>719908146
Boomerang is great with the poison flower. Skull is AMAZING and will save you from death once (repairs at bench)

>>719907556

Your only options are to:

GET GUD

or

GET FILTERED

>>719908349
does she explode?

>>719908146
The mask is GODLY, the best in the game.
The tool is also one of the best ones.

I'm better than most people at games and if I'm being filtered by certain areas in this game I can only imagine the average player or even journos. They won't finish this game for 6 months

>>719908349
Do you seriously need to do it again if you die to that attack?

This game is Hollow Knight's Dark Souls 2.

>>719908380
Yes, it drains your silk meter too.

>>719908401
It just changes your attacks/moveset to that of Hollow Knight, on top of having different Tool layouts (it has a lot more yellow tool slots than other Crests)

Every Crest changes your moveset and the types of Tool slots you have available, there's at least like a half-dozen

Anyone else find some of the music (like Far Fields) sound similar to Skyrim?

>>719906693 (OP)
Sexo

>>719908194
according to what i've read, wanderer crest is quick but has short range. And i like the tool, combining it with the juice that makes you attack fast is a great dps increase

>>719908315


>>719908421
What's it do? I don't understand fake languages,

>>719908380
Yeah, but it is better than dying.

>>719907446
Yeah, I did that too. I thought I accidentally opened up a new area.

i was scared when i ran into fourth chorus, but he was one of the easiest bosses i've ever faced. beat him on my first try.

>>719908475
you're a shitter

>>719908275
Hi Warren Ellis.

>>719908275
>HK gameplay with Blasphemous lore
I'm diggin' it.

>>719908490
Interesting. How would you rate the crest? I'd unironically try it but I'm weighing my options with one key.

>>719907660
>Yes, progress the story.
I am 9 and a half hours in and just got to the Widow and I feels as squishy now as with the first boss. It really feels like there should have been at least an upgrade or two by now.

>>719908043
How many crests are they? I only have 5 and only upgraded one.

>>719908517
>What's it do?
Can't you read? It kakal bukwu tskk kala tktk

>>719908043

Is that CG from the game? Incredibly hot

Bros, I can't do it.
My d-pad is so shit I'm playing on dualshock 3 because that's the least shitty d-pad I have atm that I often hit sideways instead of down on red beads. What gamepad has a good d-pad?

>>719908275
What is last judge supposed to be anyway? An ant?

>fixer bug makes you a cute little statue after you do enough town quests
>you can fucking break it for shards
for what purpose

>>719908446
Yes.
>>719908471
Yes.

almost fell asleep whacking away at last judge. hk is so ass.

so the last judge is female apparently as the portuguese translation of the achievement calls it by the female gender

>>719907556
You're expected to use your tools anon.

>>719908626
Thanks for the heads up.
If I died from that I'd legit uninstall the game lmfao

just unlocked the fast travel point in the slab, where THE FUCK do i go now?

>Finally found the oil for the nail upgrade
Watching the damage sponges turn into manageable threats is quite nice.

Do we have a complete map yet?

I'm playikg on mkb and my experience with the game has improved since I switched F and A, this should have been the default.
Team Cherry are neglecting us!

>>719908536
Yeah, he's a surprise considering you're about to bolt out of there and suddenly are challenged.

>>719908043

HORNET HAS TITS??????

>>719908583
Switch pro was made for hollow knight. It's the only game the dpad on this controller doesn't feel shit for

>>719908537
>SLURP SLURP SLURP

>>719908651
duh?
the game tells you she's female.

>>719908583
I have been playing with my Dual Sense Edge and Dual Sense and I don't know if it is because I spilled beer on the Edge months ago or if the d-pad is just more worn down but the regular dual sense just feels better to play with.

>>719908362
As if shards had any other use. Tools dont seem to help at all in fights.

Is it normal to start having fantasies of living as a woman after playing Silksong? It’s hard to explain, but I’ve never connected with a video game character more than Hornet. She reminds me of myself in such a profound way.

>>719908583
people use d-pads for HK?
I use stick

>>719908713
Yes

Who is your toolfu?

For me it's trap. Cucks so many enemies and even bosses.

AHAHAHA EAT IT YOU BITCH

>main screen changes when you get to act 2

kino

>>719906693 (OP)
Every time i feel like the game's not that impressive i find some cool shit that pulls me back in.

>>719908710
The second upgrade actually makes them easier to kill ?

How long do you think it will take to 95%-100% this game?

Also FUCK Reaper. It trivializes pogo platforming and I am actually enjoying how difficult it is. It makes getting lost more impactful and exploration more rewarding.

>>719908774
tools are really strong actually, you should use them more.

my issue with the traversal is that it all feels same-y, even down to how you progress

>what you need to get somewhere, you HAVE to go around, there can never be a direct line there even if you see the door, btw there's a fight arena on the way there x800

>Skull Tyrant moment
wtf

This thing's attack patterns and movements are so fucking spastic. I am sick of the saws.

>>719908850
did some autist take meth and played it for 36 hours straight? no way there's been enough time to get the full map yet

or was this datamined somehow?

Hahaha, yes straight from the teat.

>>719908845
Stick is too unreliable for my taste, but if it works for you then great.

>>719908774
tools are extremely strong, I'm trying to use them more

I just had a horrible realization...
Sherma is the Zote of this game. He keeps attributing all the shit we do to clear pathways for him to his own efforts, just in a less dickhead way.

>LJ runback AGAIN
I'm tired bros...

>beast crest has no blue slots
>which means no poison
but why

So does he ever repair the bone bottom bench/spoiler]?

I will say much like the first game Silksong just keeps surprising me.
Like all kinds of surprises whether it's something dumb, something cool, something infuriating, something cute, etc. The game genuinely does not stop surprising me.

And I think that's one of the most important parts of a metroidvania for me desu.

I think Team Cherry played their own game so much for so many years that they legitimately lost touch of how hard they've made the game.

>>719909013
You know what would help? Not dying like a scrub.

>>719908920
Which ones ? Cause the throwing knives still take 3 hits just to kill those basic crawlers that go around the floating platforms.

>>719909079
And that's a good thing.

>>719908906
Has to be like 50-60 hours, maybe more. I’m still on act 1 with like 12 hours of gameplay and there is still so much to do.

*ting ting ting*
FARI DUNA SEMA NET
DONI PWANA VODY NET
PENA SONI MANI SET
GANA FONSU WER BON

>>719909079
And thats kino

>>719909083
boomerang

Really loving this game so far, the only issue I have is that you take damage? Like wtf? Did they make this game for basement dwelling incels or something? I have a full time job. Really wanna complete the game but this red dude is really kicking my ass. Is there a way to turn damage off?

>>719909104
built for strong spider girls

>use all 3 poison bombs and 12 poison needles
>fail
>out of tools
This is some dark souls 2 level of punishment for failing honestly
i love it

>get to Sister Splinter
>love her crazy laughter
>second boss (first being Fourth Chorus) that feels like it deserves to do two masks of damage if she hits you
>"Wow, this is actually fun! Feels like Team Cherry actually playtested this boss-"
>starts summoning enemies that do two masks of damage, fly, and turn invincible while attacking

>>719909083
Did you get the tool sharpener? There are five of them in the game and it makes them ridiculously OP when fully powered up to the point where the first knife you get in the jail just melts niggas.

>>719909042
poison is for pussies, beat them with your hands and listen to hornets retard rage sounds

>>719908946
ye but its a big area to fight

>>719908571
So far I've found 6
Hunter, Reaper, Wanderer, Beast, Witch, and Architect

For the Tool slots on Witch though its 1 Red (2 locked), 1 Blue (2 locked), and 0 Yellow. I'm pretty sure it's only Hunter that upgrades because it doesn't have a "Bonus" by default like the others do (well Wanderer doesn't either but w/e), the later upgrades (by returning to Eva after you get more Crests/Progressing) are just additional universal slots, so far I've gotten a Yellow and Blue one, so not having any Yellow slots isn't TOO Bad.

The one issue I have with it is that it changes your Heal to be an AOE attack that only heals if you hit things, which makes it a lot harder to use/more situational, which sucks because I love the moveset otherwise

>>719909079
It's not even hard just full of annoying bullshit killing your desire to play

>>719909079

Good. You can tell this game was made by a binch of retarded autist living in their own office for years. I liled Prince of Persia but I could tell that shit was made by committee. Polished to a AAA sheen but didn't have that sovlful friction only an autist game would have.

>>719906912
nope.
the true blackpill is that there is legitimately no reward for beating the judge either.
i lost all my fucking roseary's doing so and in return got fucking nothing.
i feel a smug onions face mocking me the more hours i put into this game.

>>719908928
Oh they’re all alive

>>719909104
Hornet x Sherma /ss/ when?

>>719909104
I love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe.

>>719909145
Boomerang is pretty good with the poison flower.

i'm at this fucking church with these scissor niggers
my fingers are so fucking sore
also What nigger at team cherry thought it'd be funny to put those little rose petal jumpy things into a parkour, have some shitty coins at the end of it, and then no way of getting out but getting back
yeah let's just add a path of pain segment for the FUCK of it
already regret buying this dogshit sadist developer game, then again i've done 6 hours already today
if I had a girlfriend at least I could show her some new tricks

>>719909104
She's cute

i'm getting my ass beat by a faggot bug

>>719908946
They're all clearly telegraphed. The saw is easily dodged by just walking away from him.

By the time player reaches Hunter's March you should've been given at least one damage upgrade and at least one mask. Instead, you get "upgrades" that feel borderline meaningless. You're constantly capped on shards whereas Rosaries are few and far between unless you purposely go back to farm the infrequent mobs that drop them... made even worse by the fact you have to spend them on benches/tunnels.

I hate how your reward for exploration is either useless shards or a difficult fight that doesn't advance your power

>>719909083
With 1 sharpening kit the knives deal as much damage as your normal attacks.
The trap wrecks bosses.
The boomerang is incredible for ranged attacks and to deal with pesky flying enemies.
Use your tools, they are really strong.

>>719909104
SHUT UP
SHUT UPPPPP YOU LITTLE SHIT

>>719909168
shoot them with silkspear, it kills them in 1 hit.
upgraded straight pins are also decent against them

>>719909168
>starts summoning enemies that do two masks of damage, fly, and turn invincible while attacking
Just filter them with silkstorm, then it becomes another boring fight

>>719909168
Things only get worse after beating her, good luck

>>719906693 (OP)
It's embarrassing a game that could have been made 30 years ago on the amiga is so popular, 30 years ago everyone thought we would be playing games on a holofeck by now.

Nope, same exact shit. 30 years from now, we will be playing the same thing too,

>>719909180
I only got one from a quest;

>you get in the jail
Is this somethig from act 1 ? Cause I might have already killed the guy who would capture me.

>>719907093
~10 attempts.
i expected her to have a third phase and was surprised her second was just the same moveset with fire now.
Im not enjoying act 2 so far and im getting close to dropping the game and just replaying HK for realz.

>>719909223
Sorry I'm stupid, there's only one Red locked slot, not two

>>719909104
Based pilgrim

>>719909168
use your fucking spear it's your burst damage option

>>719909168
aoe silk spell clears the mobs and the thorns

>>719909305
where do you get the trap?

Hey. That's a sight for my eyes only.

>>719909417
The deep docks smith.

>>719909280
>She
it's a boy
>>719909419
me peeping in the top corner

>>719909417
forge daughter in the docks or whatever the lava area was called

>>719909168
it's literally what they call "fake difficulty"

there has to be more to hunter's march right
i found the secret area with the shopkeeper and all but it's very conspiciously the only area i can't find a fast travel point in and it looks like there's more to it on the map
i can't seem to access it from within the area though, and i've tried getting in from both greymoor and bellhart with no luck

Alright where do you go with the violin

>>719907312
there's literally a nailsmith in the second town.
just play the game you fag.

>>719909079
Good, innovation isn't created without pain.

>>719909223
Guess I should get that Witch one. I saw that ring but didn't have hook yet.

>>719907162
whats defined as "beating it"?

FINALLY. It only took me five hours.
Anyways, secondary tools costing shards to refill is a design mistake. Having to go back and grind because you lost four times in a row is shit design.

As a lorefag invested in the first game I'm very much enjoying act 1

>>719909358
you know the entrance to the Hunter's March? Just below that area where you fought the club ant there is a jail. Go inside and there is a guy trapped in a cell on the right hand side. Free him, go inside his cell, and there is a hole to the cell above him. The knives are right there. You can buy another sharpener from the Forge Daughter, and it doesn't require ore, just rosary.

You think if they advertised it as the hard mode sequel, people would be less mad?

>>719907939
run on the treadmill for an endless farm of Rosaries.

>>719909326
I don't get it. It's hard to hit them in a straight line because they fly away from you and up and down. Also they're trying to chase you.

>>719907430
Whenever a fucker like this comes up I use a few attempts not even fighting him but just trying to evade everything he throws at me. The moment I know that I can evade any combination of his attacks I start to fight back.

>>719909604
People are mad?

>>719909590
Forgot pic. Whoops.

>>719909604
maybe?
they advertised it as "accessible to newcomers" though, fucking lmao

>>719909518
Weaver doors. There's one in Moss Grotto.

I'm 4,5 hours in and I think I figured out the optimal way of exploring. Your should advance horizontally, and only after you've cleared a "floor" as much as you can your current abilities allow ascend to the next one. Am I correct?

>>719909287
Nevermind 3rd try.

>>719909518
Oh I found it.

Man how the fuck do i afford the stuff at forge daughter?
Everythings fucking expensive and the enmies that drop analbeads only drop pennies.

>>719909590
Did you pick up tool bags? When you get five of them you have 900 shards which is way fucking overkill.

>>719909701
who's this zesty nigga?

Just got to Moorwing's phase 2. This is the opposite of comfy.

>>719909327
Where do you get silkstorm?

>Blasted Steps
This isn't fun. Videogames are supposed to be fun.

>>719907826
If you die to the fly he'll be in the area right above the boss. Once talked to him he appeared every time I fought the fly afterwards.

>>719909654
Some of hollow knights biggest fans* are publically rage quitting over shit like Fourth Chorus being "too hard"

*never played it, just fans

>>719908946
> has like 3 attacks

>>719909604
I thought I remembered them specifically saying the difficulty would be comparable to the first game but maybe I imagined it.
If I were TC I'd made Act 1 literally the HK difficulty curve and then go up from there. Otherwise yeah probably should say that this is a proper sequel game in the vein of the original Mario 2 and not an entry point for new players.

>>719909654
Have you not seen the board?

>>719909079
Based, I'm sick of devs being shit at their own games and having to listen to (((competitive))) trannies for high level balance.

loving the game so far just beat hunter's march

I refuse to believe you fags are getting filtered by Moorwing.

Literally his only hard attack is the one where he summons a follow up saw throw.

>>719909774
worst area in the game tbqh

>>719909762
Greymoore upper right. It's a pogo test sorta

>>719909712
Or maybe not, not seeing what to do in the Far Fields place
>>719909676
Guess I’ll try that next, thanks

TO ALL THE PEOPLE LOSING BEADS

QUITTING OUT TO MAIN MENU TELEPORTS YOU TO THE LAST BENCH WITH NO PROGRESS LOSS, IT'S JUST LIKE HOMEWARD BONE EXCEPT FREE

DO IT WHEN YOU'RE AT 1HP, WORKS IN THE FIRST GAME TOO

>>719909774
welcome to the worms fields mother fucker

need nuu porn
we need more nuuporn
Pooorrn

>>719909721
Bro there are literally only two that are reachable in act 1 as far as I can tell

I cheesed the Moor flying thing. Fuck it and fuck whichever tester told TC this boss is fine for early game.

Why the fuck did I buy this game bros
I'm hurting
>>719909791
Fourth Chorus is easy as shit
that nigger telegraphs the fuck out of his attacks

>>719907713
>It's entirely doable without dash or any upgrade. It's only a bit expensive to get key at that point, but getting that crest early helped me a lot.

I bought the key, got into the Worm area and I think the only thing I got was exploring a little to the west of the starting location, where I found a crypt. I feel like there should be more to that area but I cannot for the life of me progress there, do I need to go back there with dash?

>>719909814
/v/ is always fucking mad.

>>719909273
The scissor guys are easy once I figured out what to do. You just jump over them and hit them from behind.

>stuck in the citadel
FUCK, I managed to get into the choral halls I thought the way out would be the paid elevator but it wasn't how do I get out? At least, I need to know where the map is. Also Last Judge wasn't so bad.

>>719906882
All good proper games have a poison swamp

>>719909827
Yeah I can understand Widow, or Beastfly, but Moorwing? The fuck?

>>719909791
>fans
>who play HK for the first time

>>719909419
Attack him, he has a funny reaction afterwards when you get out.

i figured it out
they made farming intentionally hard/tedious so that the player would try to learn how to combat enemies without taking hits (which is the true meaning of these types of games - to find the pattern) due to being underleveled.

dude fuck the last judge and the runback

>forced to use reaper crest just to beat this room
god im such a shitter

>>719909928
>Beastfly
Even Beastfly is easy.
Just dont fight him early lmao.

>>719909940
I thought the fight was fun it was getting there that was ass

>last judge
more like last filter holy fuck

>>719909898
I feel like the scissor guys were made to troll people like me who thought they were clever by attacking enemies through the bottom of a platform.

Does greyroot do anything more than give you some poison?

>>719909890
This is you

>>719909715
explore nigga, there are beads all over the place

>>719909301
I ended up in Hunter's March right after I got the dash, because I went 'oh, that boss that was slow that I kept losing to was surely made for a dash', went there, and was fucking miserable for an hour before I quit the game. I'd explored the lava area a bit but there was nothing moving me forward there either. being capped on shards and scrounging for rosaries feels like absolute dogshit. I kept going oh, did I get anything? for beating any bosses and the answer kept being 'no'

I beat the boss fight where there was so much shit on the screen that I could barely see myself, and died three times to the platforming section. jesus christ.

>>719909940
>fuck the last judge
Why? She's an extremely fair fight with predictable patterns and many openings.
>the runback
Your pogo?

>find savage fly
>no bench near it
oh buddy

>>719909515
Bone Bottom?

>>719909168
The adds don't do 2 damage. Hornet just has no iframes so if you get clipped they just blender you for 2-3 hits.

Do we have a path of pain equivalent yet?

>people getting filtered by these bosses
>when they all have like 5 attacks max

>>719909890
You missed the hour long melt down yesterday with someone on this very board crying about how unfair the fight was and how unfair that Team Cherry placed it so far into the game so he couldn't refund.

>>719909887
holy mother of filtered
the boss has 4 patterns all extremely slow and telegraphed you just have to focus your zoomer brain for 2 minutes

>>719909905
I just got there myself and there's a bell station at the very bottom right and also a pneumatic tube elevator which I guess is the second fast travel system.

>>719909890
>Why the fuck did I buy this game bros
Play slower. I'm serious. You have all the time you need. You just need to be a little slower hitting the buttons.
That helped me at least.

>>719907962

I would like them if I saw my damage increase at least once in those past 4 hours. I'm going crazy thinking I fucked up with the chosen path somehow

Is the game at least more fun than the first? Or is it more of the same, another metroidvania of the bunch?

>>719909736
TROBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>719907178
No fuckin way...

Seriously guys, how the fuck do I get a map for the citadel above the scum n'blades zone.

>>719909864
I lose beads because they get stuck in arenas and I can't get back before another death.

O-Ooooh....

>>719909891
Without dash you can only go the south of the worm area, I think the crypt that you are referring is where you unlock the crest.

>>719910090
I can't do it. I beat P5 and have almost a fully radiant godhome. Moor flying thing just gets on my nerves.

>>719909890
go push other places and come back once you unlock the regular down attack

>act 1
The fact that this is split into acts makes me fear there are tons of missables.

I am convinced /v/ is just bad at games.

>>719910145
It's less metroidvania and more kaizo

>>719910040
Starting village. To the west where you met the chaple maid there is a giant door. On the other side is a grave filled with traps and an enemy gauntlet. Clear the tomb and you get the Wanderer's Crest, basically the moveset from hollow knight.

>>719909590
They added shard bundles to help with that I guess. But they cost rosaries which are also a bitch to get.

>>719909997
I did that too, surprised when they flew down.

>>719906693 (OP)
Does anyone know if different Crests have different damage? If not I might switch to Wanderer, I can get used to the short range with that insane attack speed.

>>719909890
the game doesn't tell you this, but that area is optional. I only found out once I got here

>>719909791
I died to Fourth Chorus literally once and that's because I fucked up the jump to the rock that crushes him. He telegraphs his moves so obviously that I legit can't see him filtering anyone aside from literal babies and geriatric seniors with dementia.

>>719910181
What does it mean by building focus ?

Unironically a 9/10 game.
Hollow Knight was more of a 7/10 game.

Bonus points for not looking like a shitty flash game

>when the flea caravan moves for the second time it's to the last judge room
does it block the fight like with moorwing? can you skip that motherfucker with enough fleas?

Where is the Bilewater map?
I unlocked the bench and tramway at the bottom of this area but still no map
Also wtf am I supposed to do in The Mist? just keep going forward?

How the fuck am I supposed to beat this fat cunt with the bone club in The Marrow?

>>719910374
maybe those butterflies in the mist would like a song

>>719910354
they're both 7/10s in different ways

>>719910285
You are going to miss the longer range when you deal with the abundance of flying mobs.

>>719910074
NTA but I refuse to believe anyone legitimately had trouble with Fourth Chorus and isn't just shitposting. His attacks are telegraphed to hell and back, he a really long wind-up after his sweep, and the game literally just lets you skip his second phase.

>>719909079
KEK, if they played their own game maybe they would know how garbage all the rewards for the quests are?
Why is my starting crest better than the ones that require you to complete quest without healing or defeat hard boss?
Maybe they really wanted to give us the soulslike experience, pebble for 40 hours and then invisible pebble for the rest of the game.

>>719910145
I'm having way more fun than I did with the first one but I can only speak for myself.

>>719907734
im in bell/shellwood, when is act 2?

>>719910248
Holy. I can't believe I missed this. Who would ever go back?

>>719909590
>Having to go back and grind because you lost four times in a row is shit design
ahh my beloved

>>719906693 (OP)
She lives in a post apocalyptic kingdom that has hot springs all over the place, I don't think shame is a thing in Hallownest.

he's not singing this time...
oh no

Is it me or is the beast crest pretty bad? The downward attack and the heal just don't seem any good at all

i just masturbated to rule34 of hornet while pressing x rapidly to jump while playing so she could "moan"
what are your thoughts on this?

>>719910340
>I legit can't see him filtering anyone aside from literal babies and geriatric seniors with dementia.
Congrats on noticing that literal retards on neetbux who can't wipe their own asses use this board.

>>719910352
The circled meter fills up when you attack enemies, the more filled it is the more damage you deal.
If you get hit it empties itself.

It's probably the best crest you can get early on thanks to the extra damage.

>>719910394
Literally just stand under the ceiling.

>>719909775
kek I did not even talk to him before killing the boss. Was the first one I died more than once at and stayed the hardest for me until the end of Chapter 1...

>>719909997
I laughed when he went "aha!" and jumped down so I couldn't cheese him. Good enemies, much better then the flying cunts on the right side of the area.

>>719910352
Much more needle damage. Seems to also apply to all Weaver techniques that use needle too.

The weird diagonal slash replacing the standard downslash is really fucking obnoxious.

>90% of Hornet art is thiccshit
I hate it.

>>719907620
wtf i never had to fight this guy. did the caravan thing make him never show up?

>>719910145
It's literally just hollow knight again but enemies hit harder, combat is a bit more complex, movement is faster, areas are less dense with content, and there's a new quest system with material requirements you need to farm. If you didn't like hollow knight there's a good chance you won't like this unless you didn't like hollow knight because of one specific nitpick that was addressed

>>719908850

I must have like 50 more hours left to do, nice

>>719910394
>bone club
?

>>719908850
i am not opening this, but how much hours do you think the game requires?

at this point i've lost all my money like 6-7 times already (i'm at the white flower parkour thing) and i'm now always buying the bead things whenever i can because i've accepted that i'm going to die over and over even during exploration

>>719910394
Be far away from him so that he buries himself into the ground to show up near you, hit him once or twice when he pops up, and repeat the above. It feels scummy as fuck but it works.

>>719908568
you get weapon upgrade in the town you save after killing Widow

I'm gonna be honest, I really dislike rosaries as currency you can lose, I lost TWO FUCKING THOUSAND in a platforming section, and I couldn't get them back because I got double damaged for 4 hearts on the way back and died instantly, now I can't even afford a fucking bench. If getting rosaries wasn't hard, I wouldn't complain, it's very tedious, and you only get very small amounts.

>>719910486
I did like an hour into the game when I was at the elevator above Bone Bottom and noticed that if I could just make the right pogo off of some flies I could get into a new area. Then I saw I needed the simple key, went back and got it, and then fucked around until I ended up on the other side of the door.

It's a metroidvania nigga. Backtracking and autistically exploring is what makes it fun.

Where do I get the dash and wallclimbing?

>>719910145
the first one is more fun by virtue of actually giving you something for beating bosses

>>719910394
come back when you are stronger

Finally 8 masks
Now I can tank 2 hits and 1 stagger :))))))))))))))

Clockwork Dancers is a pretty good boss fight, but they have WAY too much HP for a 3 phase boss. The runback is pretty ass too with the long hallway with 3 of these assholes everytime.

>Widow
>Blasted Steps
>Beast building nigger
>hunt for that one missing purple flower
I am spoiled for choice.

Question: How do acts work? Are you cut off from the rest of the map after doin an act? does some things get gated if you go to the next act? will you know when you are at the end of an act?

>>719910615
It really is. But there are people that will defend it just because. It's the only system that was perfect in the old game, I just don't see the use case even in the sense of "mobility"

>>719910478
Citadel. you're like 1 zone away

>>719909050
for me he started working on it immediately after i beat the boss and when i came back after doing some other shit it was all fixe dup

>>719910662
Yeah, if you complete the quest the boss just fucks off.
It's also kinda fun because you can get someone to help you
Doesn't take away the fact that the boss is fucking horrid to fight, but it makes it "different".

>>719910757
>he doesn't have the spicy mask

these little cocksuckers can go to hell

>>719909791
>Fourth Chorus
>died once because I didn't pay attention to the ground
How does it happen more than one time?

>>719910615
You can change your moveset to the hollow knight moveset

Path of pain equivalent found yet?

>>719910693
I think that entirely depends on (you)

>>719910686
There are still 3 to 4 DLC planned too.

Silksong is still exploration kino.
Team Cherry still got it.

>>719910615
>>719910764
Shitters say what?

Visions of Unn...

>>719910853
yea im here too right now
i hope there is no fucking phase 3 to this boss

>>719910890
Yes, the Judge runback
;)

>>719910764
>"mobility"
If anything, I feel less mobile when it comes to those red things you gotta pogo off of since now I have to get the angle just right.

>>719906693 (OP)
I'm not apologizing. I was just trying to run away with my beads.

>>719907620
agdg devs could do better

>>719910932
>he doesn't know
There isn't, but watch out for when she explodes

>>719910725
That's exactly why you can lock rosaries so you don't lose them on death

WAIT YOU CAN DASH HEAL MID AIR AND DASH AGAIN

What do we do with this knowledge?

>>719910394
learn his telegraphs, he has very distinct windup between the two swings and the big dive and they're both easy to dodge, just keep up a rhythm of taking a couple swings, dodging, and repeating and you're good. Just be aware the area behind him is way worse

>>719910745
Dash is found in Mosshome. Look for the diamond shaped symbol on your map that spans two verticle map segments. If you haven't found that yet I wouldn't worry about wall climbing right now, you are quite a ways away from it.

>>719907178
Does it make Hornet fat

>>719910805
oh. i ended up in wormwood tunnels somehow but i cant progress anymore here.
unlocked the bell beast shortcut, and cant figure out where more purple things are for the quest

>throwing myself at sinner's road for the 10th time
>that bench fake out
FUCK YOU CHERRY-ZAKI

>>719910961
Once you get the alternative movesets you'll feel a lot better

After the "le heckin silksong is out" positive reviews wear off, the game is not gonna be as well received as Hollow Knight, that's for sure. How much do you think they're gonna cave in to casuals and neuter the game's difficulty with updates?

>>719906786
>Wanderer crest
>is good
>Reaper crest
>is shit
Gee what a conundrum

>>719910910
>There are still 3 to 4 DLC planned too.
they never said that

>>719910876
I died like 5 times, usually when too slow as he smashes a platform and I had to dash to the opposite one

>>719910725
>TWO FUCKING THOUSAND
Why didnt stop at the shop to convert all that into strings ?

>>719910973
>new cheese strat discovered

>>719911032
don't you mean far fields

>>719910925
Fucking retard
>>719910961
This, it's just plain awkward, especially since you have to fight the controls on moving the character to a certain angle to make the other jump. Old Pogo took skill but made so much more intuitive sense, like classic Mario jumps.

>>719910843
I do have it but I'm using other stuff

I am so tired of going through a fucking journey from the bench just to get back to a boss

>>719910725
Just turn them into strings you moron

>>719906693 (OP)
Just wait til you get to the jail scenario

>>719911071
game is definitely better than HK, but some balance updates are going to happen just like HK got when it came out

Anyone here enjoy the beast moveset? It feels really bad and the fact that you need to "bind" to activate lifesteal is lame, does it get better?

WAIT I JUST REALIZED WHY THERE ARE SO LITTLE BENCHES

THE FUCKING STAG STATIONS DONT HAVE ANY

>>719911078
they said they're working on dlc of a similar scale to what HK got iirc

pogoing with the beast crest is literally impossible

>>719911073
>>Reaper crest
>>is shit
having range is nice

>>719911132
>Only got first line
Jesus christ Im so behind.

I might be too emotional but i dont fucking understand the developers idea behind these drill fuckers in judge runback.
Perfect fucking music to what i assume is the culmination to the act, its not even hard.
But those fucks spawning at awkward position just ruin it, from 100 to fucking 0

Astroturfed low quality redditsloppa.

>>719911043
the purple things are pretty well hidden. The one i had most trouble with was on the long corridor with spines in a hidden wall on the left side (between belhart and sherwood). A couple more are behind hidden walls

>>719911175
some of them do

I won.
STYLE SWAP TO WANDERER. The dps makes a huge difference and the neccesitiy to get close forces you to learn the attacks

>>719907471
>>719907536
Well she heals 3 at once, instead of just 1. She can also do it in the air.

>>719911087
>Lose 500 in the conversion

>>719911196
Not as nice as having an actual pogo

Does Morwing just open that door behind him? I don't see any drops

So, Eva is some sort of computer/AI, right?

>>719910761
It's because there's another travel system.

>>719911120
I find the new pogo similarly usable in combat but with platforming lining everything up precisely enough is really obnoxious

>>719910759
Five of them are marked here >>719908017 I can't remember where the last(first) was

is Act 2 the final act of the game? Surely not right? I've only got 6 masks and one nail upgrade, and I don't even feel like I've fought half of the 40+ boss count. Act 1 felt like one quarter of the game

Fucking hell Moorwing is bullshit

>>719911217
OH i know what you mean. its highlighted orange on my map for some reason. guess ill explore more here. the vertical ass area makes it hard to tell where to drop and go

actually i remember exactly where i forgot to explore so ill head there. but i need to nap and go exercise.

>>719911201
90% of those are just stuck behind vendors. You unironically need upwards of 2k beads to get that many.

>>719911071
>>719911161
Im pretty sure Team Cherry only nerfed shit like the shotgun maggot spell in HK
And Lifeblood outright buffed bosses like Traitor Lord and Nosk

>>719910973
Does he follow you up? How do you get him up there if you have to run back up first?

Getting really paranoid with this musical nail upgrade. I played music to some roaring beast and flowers, and got some messages, but I'm not sure if I'm meant to do something afterwards or they are just lore pieces.

>>719911087
Honestly that's a me problem, I get side tracked easily, I was supposed to be getting songs or whatever the fuck, but I spent 2 hours doing jackshit in the underworks, I also forget to end quests, I had a weapon upgrade for 3 hours and I forgot about it.

>>719911110
Yeah, brainfart. I was thinking of silk spear.

>>719909104
Glorious

>>719907616
based quixote

>>719911132
Where do you get that big bell charm?

>>719911286
but reaper's down-slash is basically a pogo

>>719911271
Better 500 than all 2000.

>>719911290
yes

>>719911380
He's one of the bosses you can flee from. You can cheese him if you go up there.

>>719910672
I feel Hollow Knight fails me as a Metroidvania because the DLC ruins the pace of the game since adding more content to the Endgame does not make want to replay the game again. Maybe as individual chapters they would had been fine on a replay but as added content it just makes further replays miserable.
>Beat radiance
>Great, do it again

It also feels somewhat dry in a sense because the moveset and builds are VERY limited.
How does this game compare to Ragebound and Shinobi?

>>719911405
It's this games Dream Nail. Act accordingly

I've been exploring thoroughly and I still don't know who widow is or where they are

>>719911380
Died to him, my cocoon was far enough in that it aggros him. You're not locked in with him so you can just Mary Poppins on up

>>719911071
they will patch in a difficulty option that drops 2 mask damage to 1.
i 100% believe that will happen since its the easiest fix to implement.

>>719911164
Nah its ass. Reaper seems just better since it also generates extra Silk.
>>719911149
I wasn't annoyed with it, but this one feels especially bad. The only bench is a fake out

>>719911445
The Warding Bell? Bottom of the Far Fields

alright widow was a kino fight.

Should I play this comfy game this weekend or keep playing retarded online games like always?

>>719911161

>HK got balance updates

only played the game first time like 2 years ago, what was harder?

>>719911347
Phase two is manageable.
Stand slightly to his left or right side when he does the butt up movement to throw two blades at different directions and hover with the cloak.
Bait the melee attack for free damage.
Keep in mind the floor sweeping blades can be either 1 or 2.
And remember that he ALWAYS shoots a blade after dashing. So dodge/pogo and then hover.

You guys are crazy if you think theyll make this game easier

I forgot where it is I ran into that guy who kidnaps you and takes you to the Slab. I wanted to go back there and check it out.

>>719908928
>>719909243
So is that one npc near the bench in bone bottom supposed to die during the skull tyrant attack? I accidentally went into the wormway during the fight and then got rekt when I walked back out.

>>719911459
yeah but anon doesn't want to time it

>>719911502
Don't tell me this game has fucking dream bosses too? Also what's the purpose of having a "challenge" button?

>>719911469
Doesn't make it less bullshit.

>>719911514
there are 6 polips, no?

>Walk a bit in new area
>NEW AREA UNLOCKED
>Walk for a bit in this new area
>NEW AREA UNLOCKED
>Walk again in this new area
>NEW AREA UNLOCKED
how many fucking areas are in this game

>>719911585
it is absolutely not a comfy game.
its unironically a 2D dark souls 1.
make of that what you will.

Why is Hornet?

>whiteward
i'm scared

>>719911734
When a wyrm and a spider get very horny, sex happens and out pops hornet

>>719911613
They said that they were planning to add future content to this. Cant do that if a lot of people just drop the game before even finishing act 1.

>>719911686
It does actually.

>>719911708
28 supposedly. hollow knight had 17

>>719911708
28

>>719910005
I kept fucking opening my glider on accident. I figured iht pretty quick that jt was gonna be the pink mushroom shit again but I didnt want to accept it

>memory upgrades are tied to crest
WHAT THE FUCK
This vine boss is fucking cancer with the reaper up air so I went back to hunter.

I don't know where to go anymore

I got to the top of blasted steps and it said I had 4 out of 5 bells and that the last one is in bellhart, but bellhart in my game is just a hub I can't interact with and a tunnel maze that leads back to the marrow

what am I missing?

>>719911769
Herrah was the only consenting party

>>719911196
It's like 2 extra pixels in exchange for 20% the speed.

>>719911708
28

>>719911714
holy fuck dude

>>719911804
Did you go to the lower part of Bellhart?

At the Citadel and feel like im towards the end of the game now. Is this an Elden Ring-type fakeout where you get to this massive area that feels like the end but is actually hiding a shitload more content

>>719911804
Explore more of Shellwood

>>719910074
they have to be trolling bro
fourth chorus with dash and glide is easy as fucking pie
even that red cunt guarding the entrance to that grey place was more of a challenge

>>719911794
>vine boss
You mean the Sister thing?
She's easy. The summons are cancer.
You can break the vines with your melee and the nail art throw thing kills the summons in 1 hit. She can also kill them for you.

>>719911879
When did Elden Ring do that fakeout? You can see the entirety of the map from the get go aside from the underground one.

Pretty weird decision to call make the Raper Crest the strongest. I didn't think they'd do that sort of thing with Hornet's character.

>>719911878
the dark maze with the hermit? I did

>>719911879
Did you not see the giant "ACT 1 PHARLOOM" title screen after the opening?

>>719907819
What the fuck were they smoking with everything dealing 2 damage?

>>719910132
the glide option helps and getting rhythm down octen means slowing down but still, the range of enemies is so crazy at times

this game just has either too big HP on bosses or way too fucking low dmg
what im supposed to play fucking hunter because i got the bonus? then the runback is just borderline impossible
a fucking pure vessel hitless takes less than this judge crap

>>719911928
when you fight morgott and can't get in the tree

>>719911879
>At the Citadel and feel like im towards the end of the game now

>>719911928
>Get to Leyndell
>Right at the Erdtree, Melina leaves you, you feel like you're at the end
>Kill Morgott
>Actually there's this big snow area as well as 3 optional areas and another final area before we change the area you just beat to have like 4 final bosses

>enter whiteward
>encounter body horror
I was not ready

>>719911993
Just don't get hit.

Why the fuck is it so hard just to climb up a platform
I lost 300 rosaries just because Whatsherface fucking refused to climb up a basic platform I was clearly high enough for.

>>719910910
i am farther than most people. i've beated the clockwork dancing twins, and currently hunting one of the three citadels bosses. I still havent seen the coral forest from the trailers, what if there is a shorter third act in the upper citadel?

>>719906693 (OP)
im so fucking pissed i was really looking forward to playing this but my hrt shipment got delayed so i have to wait 2 fucking weeks before i can really sink into this masterpiece

>oh nice the choral chambers map, let's check it out
>mfw

>>719910448
hmmm... nyo

>>719910237
what
that exists? THANK FUCK i was about to lose my shit

I raged about bosses in these threads but I’m actually really enjoying them. I only got up to widow and already these bosses mog like 80% of those in hollow knight. I did ask for more nkg type of shit, so I’m very happy

>>719911976
I also saw the 'ACT 2: CITADEL OF SONG' title screen. How many acts are there?

>>719909013
I wanted to try her with the beast crest but then realized I'd need to pogo with it. Fucking hell man.

>>719908275
Will we ever get a game that doesn't shit on Christianity?

>>719911707
its near bench when you unlock path from bellhart up right

>>719911993
Artificial difficulty.
Instead of making a mask upgrade feel significant, they diminished its value by making everyone deal 2 damage. So now instead of 4 hp equaling 4 hits, you need 7 hp (two upgrades) to equal the same amount.

WHY IS THE LAST JUDGE THE ONLY ON THAT HAS THIS CANCEROUS RUNBACK

EVEN SHIT IN THE CITADEL ISNT THIS BAD

>>719910294
yeah but you dont even get ANYTHING
i thought it led to a mask shard or a fucking charm

>>719912108
The main bosses like Widow and Lace and Fourth Chorus are all excellent. The side bosses are either forgettable or the spawn of Satan (beastfly)

>>719906786
Depends really.
I have been running wanderer since getting it since it makes your moveset the same as hollow knights, reapers ability to spawn more silk is pretty useful too. i refuse to use the other crests since they have gimmicky dumb shit diagonal pogos

Doesn't sound good

>>719912108
there is a stretch of the game early on that feels like fuckin ass but its just general direction of how the game parades you that feels off in small sections


like those green birds in the gloomwood area dont feel right ot fight and you go to later because the bellhart area feels way better to go through

>>719912045
Jesus Christ.

>game has no returning characters
Starting to lose interest.

>>719911714
>its unironically a 2D dark souls 1.
Hollow Knight was 2D Dark Souls 1.
Silksong is 2D Dark Souls 2.

>>719912225
Hornet's silk must be very powerful stuff.

>need to heal
>pogo off enemy
>mid air heal

HOW IS THIS SHIT BALANCED

How do I "Hagale?" I havent heard her say it yet

Pale King bros why was our Kingdom so shit...

I just ran into this guy. Is he supposed to be a Beef Gate that I can't defeat until much later?

how do you idiots struggle with moorwing? you can pogo the whole fight and he can't do anything.

>>719911347

well after beating the last judge for the second time (good one devs you fucking niggers) whoever designed these corpse runs has no fucking clue how to design games

>run/screaming cycle cheese
2 contact damage award

>>719912108
>I did ask for more nkg type of shit
I don't think I have encountered anything as hard as NKG so far, the game is much harder than hollow knight though.

>>719912352
Jump.

Dumb question.

Do the crests affect nail damage?

>>719912316
>Game set in a far away kingdom
>Why are there no characters from Hollow Knight?

>cogwork dancers
cool fight idea
but why the fuck did they decide it needed to be ten minutes long and have four phases
jesus christ the health bloat in this game is fucking ridiculous

>>719912362
For once, I'm actually glad to be spoiled about a boss gimmick. I've been stuck at her for hours so if that caught me off-guard I would have been seething so fucking hard.

>>719912350
shit? at least his had free benches for us poorfags.

>>719912108
Nah, the early game HK bosses were way more memorable. False Knight, Soul Master, and Hornet herself.

>>719912512
yes, wanderer crits and it's faster

>>719912352
if you have dash you can cheese this fight

>>719912517
Why even bother making it in the same universe then?

This is in fact harder than fucking nightmare grimm and nobody can convince me otherwise
And if not for the anon telling me about explosion i would get raped
Also when i noticed im close i spammed all tools and she still did more and more attacks for like 2min. The lack of dmg in this game is atrocious.

>>719912352
Go under the ceiling.

At least we know from all this who Pale king bought his fucking sawblades from.
Jesus the weavers are almost as bad as him

>>719912568
false knight was ass, nostalgiafag. The only reason its remembered is because of its dream version.

>>719912502
can't wait for reddit hivemind to decide that having 3 hearts of life for bosses is unplayable.

>>719912352
Drag him into the start of the room. The little hallway with barely any ceiling room?
You should be able to figure out the rest.

How many acts are there
>>719912530
There's a nail upgrade you can get, there's a dude somewhere who has the oil the smith needs to upgrade your shit, but he wants an assortment of food that i have no idea on how to find

>>719908146
The mask is an absolute must. Literally the only tool in all of Act 1 that does something to benefit the player. You have to be a genuine retard not to use it.

>>719912568
Moorwing is better than Soul Master gameplaywise.

>>719911161
>game is definitely better than HK
for me the appeal of HK was never the combat mechanics, it was the immersive game world with interesting lore that i felt like begged to be explored and the story at a certain point really got me interested
SS definitely has more going for it in terms of raw mechanics but I'll have to admit 16 hours of gameplay later it's really not scratching that same HK itch. i probably still need to play more but Pharloom being so much bigger doesn't necessarily make it more interesting, a lot of the zones just blend together in my brain
i have yet to experience a single "oh wow i just felt my interest in this game shoot up quite noticeably" moment like i did in HK

>>719912675
i have the nail upgrade
i was also spamming tools with my poison tool charm
it still took fucking ages

>>719912530
>ten minutes long
Huh? Did you mod your game so the nail actually does 1 damage or something? It took me two minutes, if that, they are extremely telegraphed, they just get faster in phase 2 and 3, 'phase 4' is a slow as fuck freebie.

Interesting.
>>719912330
It's the other way around. She injects it into herself.

>>719912647
>big ass enemy where all you can do is jump over because you don't even have dash yet
It was kino.

>>719908906
100 speedrun achievement says less than 30hrs.
So the average completion run should be 40-60hrs

>>719912723
where do you find this guy on the map

>>719911660
as far as i know they always die. leave and come back to the area near the chapel for a nice scene

>>719912604
is it optional at least?

>>719912764
reach act 2

Can I progress the prison after I unlocked the fast travel from it? It feels like I'm missing a key and I don't see any place I can go in it according to the map

>>719912864
>near the chapel
Near the hwat now?

>>719912568
Idk if i can judge yet but yea from the entire act 1 i will only remember Judge, unless pogo before reaper counts as a boss.
That one lava boss probably leaves some impression on people but i already fought it in 2012.

>>719908440
I'll get filtered
It is my destiny
I just wanted to support team cherry, all the pleasure I can get and fun until I give up is just a bonus to me

>>719912902
No, it's the act 1 boss.

Where is the second town at? I want to upgrade my nail.

>>719912731
Bait used to be believable.

>>719912902
No, in other indies this would be fucking last of the last bosses lmao

>>719912935
left of town, you pass through it and see the chapel maid after finishing the tutorial area at the very beginning

>moorwing
Bosses still doing contact damage while stunned should be criminal.

>>719912950
shamefur dispray boss

>>719912764
>for me the appeal of HK was never the combat mechanics, it was the immersive game world with interesting lore that i felt like begged to be explored and the story at a certain point really got me interested
I think Pharloom is just as fun to discover just because it's part of Hollow Knight's world.

But I do agree the mystery of a dying kingdom tickled the fancy more ESPECIALLY since it has such nice payoff with the Knight's connection to the Pale King.

Is it too hard?

>>719913024
Oh, THAT chapel. I have it mentally marked as ruins.

>>719912998
It's simply the truth, I'm sorry you got filtered.

>>719913082
easier than castlevania/contra/metal slug
harder than....well... hollow knight i guess? and metroid but metroid is about exploration

>>719912352
he's super easy, there's a bench right below and he has two attacks, just take your time and learn the patterns

>>719913074
Pharloom is more visually interesting but i've just started act 2 and the world doesn't have the same pull, even Hornet is only still there so she can tell the cultists to fuck off

>>719913151
>easier than castlevania
no

>>719912764
But there is, when you get to the town and see all of them tied up.

>>719913117
I beat the nigger. He just wasn't a fun fight.
I'd rather fight soul master on 1 hit pantheons than that thing again. The fight just wasn't fluid and it dragged on for too long.
There was also no "holy shit" moment, like the first time the floor crumbles and the fight ramps up.

>>719913204
i've never beaten a castlevania (nes,snes,n64,gba,psx) in my life, they are simply too hard and confusing to navigate. Hollow Knight difficulty is extremely overrated.

how the fuck do you consistently avoid widow's floor spike attack

>>719913303
Have you tried playing them now? I couldn't beat the initial stages of those games back in the day, and nowadays I breeze through them.

>>719913343
just pogo?

>>719913237
I beat him too, and he was a really fun fight thanks to how mobile Hornet is.
>the fight isn't fluid
It is, you can do cool pogos on top of moorwing and weave between sawblades while attacking, and the fight doesn't drag on if you use the needle and tools.

I'll give you the floor crumbling part, that was really cool but the argument was about it being better gameplaywise.

>>719912116
3, but you can beat it in the 2nd act same way you dont have to fight the radiance or do any of the side quests in hollow knight.

>>719912568
I mean a good amount of bosses in silksong are basically reskinned hollow knight bosses so I really don't get people that like one but not the other.

>>719913343
just stick to a wall and walljump until it goes away.

This line goes hard as FUCK
I love Hornet as a protag. I like her confidence. I like when she talks. She's not an asshole to those who are fine. She's great.

>>719913082
No, it's just not fun

>>719913429
Hornet is not ghost, that little nigga didn’t crumble instantly

>>719913343
Stick to the wall

>>719913467
>OH HO HO HO HO

>>719913343
just stick to the wall, once i started doing that i never got hit by that attack again

Which area do I get the wall grab at?

>>719913467
Who claimed to be one in HK? They literally were one.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

How the fuck are you guys so far? Did you play all night? How many hours do you fags have?

>>719913535
>>719913535

90% of Hollow Knight's bosses were a joke that you could just facetank your way through.

>>719913467
so is lace actually a kid?

>>719913528
20 hours

>>719913517
Pale King, I guess?

>>719913528
>he didn't call out for silksong

>>719906693 (OP)
I prefer the movement in this game much more than HK
Lace fight was so cool

>>719913528
like 18 or so but I only just defeated widow

>>719913586
nta but we're short staffed as is, and i like my boss enough to not make him pull my dead weight ass.

>>719913467
>I love Hornet as a protag
Same. If there was ever any example of how to do a female protagonist right, look no further.

>>719913393
>Cool pogos
It's more of a design flaw, especially how it doesn't have an upwards attack.
>weave between sawblades
It wasn't interesting or cool and the "fuck you" factor was worn out by the time you realise that the curving blade is just a retarded addition that you don't even have to interact with as long as you position half-way decently. The fight boils down to blades that you had to hover over and the stunned body that you had to watch out for.
If it wasn't for the little dude helping you, the fight would've been another vengefly king on steroids.

>>719913585
nah he’s actually a god. Hornet blames his blood for her lack of need for food or whatever

>>719912568
Bull fucking shit

is there even a bench near?

>>719913442
>>719913496
>>719913502
Wow i did it with umbrella and wall climbing didnt even cross my mind

The only thing i got from HK was a migraine from how fucking boring it was and all the dicksucking it got. m'fraid it was no masterpiece