Thread 719938267

Just beat the base game. What am I in for?

Same shit, but harder and you have to find items to level up. I liked it enough, except that quest I accidentally broke by exploring too far too early.

>>719938267 (OP)
More of the same.

>>719938267 (OP)
Kino

Mods, kindly delete this non-Silksong thread please. Thank you.

>>719938267 (OP)
More of the same end game you just did.
It's alright but nothing special. The last boss is probably nerfed to the ground by this point so that's not an issue anymore.

>>719938267 (OP)
Emptier maps, significantly worse lore, bosses that flail and delay their attacks even more frequently, and generally some of the worst enemy design you'll ever find in an action game.

>>719938395
>quest I accidentally broke by exploring too far too early
ah I see, the fromsoft classic

>>719938267 (OP)
A whole bunch of whiny faggots will tell you to not get Scadutree Fragments. Ignore those people, get and use the Scadutree Fragments. Using those is as natural a part of the game as leveling up and upgrading your weapon are. You'll have a great time if you keep that in mind.

Also, if you defeat the first Furnace Golem you see (it can be a slog until you find the special method and how to do it), you get an awesome Crystal Tear that basically activates Sekiro mode.

>>719938936
Git gud

>>719938267 (OP)
>last boss is a random blob
Surprised you even want to keep playing desu

>>719939423
The last boss is fantastic and not random

>>719938267 (OP)
>>719938395
I got to the Shadow Keep and Ancient Rauh right after getting to Scadu Altus, only to find out through curiosity that apparently I was beelining for the end and had skipped half the DLC which kinda pissed me off and stopped me from finishing it because I wasn't feeling like going for Radahn underpowered as shit nor was I feeling like correcting course and exploring the rest of the DLC without having naturally come to that conclusion.
I'll go back and finally get it done soon but I did feel the base game was for the most part way better at naturally guiding you to explore.

>>719939451
Fuck off Miyazaki

>>719939220
>spend 20 minutes more killing this boss than you need to because uhhhh because uhhh because uhhhh
ok

>>719938267 (OP)
Its good but a nightmare on replays because its like an additional 2 zones and a underground zone's worth of content.

>>719939220
Ah yes, artificially hitting the player with a massive debuff and forcing them to go around the huge, empty map to collect Ubisoft flags in order to remove the debuff that shouldn't have been there in the first place. Riveting game design.

Question: why doesn't From GIT GUD at designing challenging enemies with clever AI instead of relying on artificial number game bullshit?

>>719939536
filtered shitter

>>719939750
Are you retarded? It's one of the easiest bosses in the series

>>719938267 (OP)
the franchise peaked at ds3. everything after that is just muh difficulty porn

>>719938267 (OP)
Hope you cleared the base game while learning to jump, run when appropriate, and use your heavy/charged attacks

>>719938267 (OP)
one (maybe two) fun bosses
the worst progression system ever implemented into an open world rpg that makes all subsequent playthroughs a chore

>>719938267 (OP)
I'm gonna say this: Malenia is still harder than PCR

>>719938267 (OP)
New bosses that go from cool to bullshit depending on how good you are.
A ton of area to explore with maps that lie.
A lot of cool new weapon types and at least one new weapon for each previous weapon type.
Getting rewarded for exploring with extra damage dealt and less damage taken, but if you don't like checking everywhere just follow the main route and you'll get enough of that anyway.
The worst bullshit final boss in the entire franchise.

>>719942443
Filtered

>>719938267 (OP)
I didn't like it that much. The bosses were good, the rest is more of the same. It does look good though.

>>719938267 (OP)
the loss of functionality of all weapons except the superheavy weapon, rollslop was elevated to an absolute, the game took its true form: streamerslop the game, where squealing homo sapiens smash gamepads for the amusement of other bald monkeys

On this game and in this dlc I swelled from the master and finally realized that HIS games are no longer for me.

>>719938267 (OP)
A non-canon DLC.

>>719938267 (OP)
I didn't like how heavily it steered the boss design towards just moveset-learning grinds. I know that for some people that's the whole reason they play Fromsoft games, but to me it cannibalizes the experience.
>>719939474
How the fuck do you not realize Shadow Keep is the main route

>>719943895
based. they fucked up the lore so badly it made me realize what a fucking hack Miyazaki always was.

>>719939220
Your webm never shows the stats and the title outs this as RL1 as well, meaning it's willfully a challenge run even outside of the DLC. This is not a good way to play on a first playthrough at all, and should only be saved for a personal, extremely-arduous challenge run, not a standard run of any sort. Also, a lot of people who fancy themselves RL1 badasses whine like bitches against anything hard and demand nerfs instead of recognizing what their own dang self-limitations are.

>>719939582
You probably pay to skip levelling in a gacha

>>719943895
>>719944042
Radahn was the only stumble.
Everything to do with Marika, Mesmer, The Hornsent, The Fingers, and The Dragons, was great.
Even the NPC showdown fight was good, its just Miquela bringing Radahn back and everything about that, was a big stumble but it was the only one and I think people just need to get over themselves at this point.

>>719938267 (OP)
More of the same, but with more bullshit. I was more pissed off playing this than I was playing the main game even though I played this 10% as much.

I finally had enough when some random enemy started spamming spells at me from a mile away. They wouldn't fucking stop and they always hit exactly where I stood. How is that good game design in anyone's mind?

>>719943895
You have been BTFO every single time lol
>>719944042
No, they didn't, the only retards who have a problem with SOTE didn't understand the original
>>719944627
>Radahn was the only stumble
It wasn't a stumble. The only lore that make sense is the Battle of Aronia being a ritual sacrifice masquerading as war

>>719944627
I don't think that the only problem was radhan and miquella (their part of the story fucking sucked and the ending was terrible), the marika lore sucked too, the hornsent stuff also sucked, the meat of the lore sucked, the fucking backbone sucked.
There was only a few interesting bits here and there, bayle, messmer, metyr partly, but it was shallow and felt kind of unrelated to the whole thing.
As I said, the trailer was more interesting than the whole DLC, the way they developped it was a fucking disaster.
I uninstalled the game and don't care about it anymore.
I'm just going to express my rancor when I see fit.

>>719944894
Shedding light onto a shitty story will not make it any better, I'm afraid.

>>719945308
It's not shitty though. It's an excellent story that most people are too retarded to understand
>>719945036
You are a retard who has been proven multiple times to not have understood neither the base game nor the DLC. You didn't understand that each being has a body and a spiritual vessel (despite that being a huge point and the lore around spirit summoning) and claimed that Miquella abandoned his body twice
You are a legitimate retard

>>719945585
You don't seem to understand that even with all the explanations, all the details I will still think that it sucks.
The story in itself, the lore in itself, the feeling of it, the way it is told, I think it sucks deeply.
Add to that the fucking empty map, the feeling of it being rushed and poorly filled with nothing.
The retarded shart fragments etc...
As a whole this DLC left a taste of shit.
I will keep the trailer as canon, the rest can burn be forgotten.

>>719943386
>the loss of functionality of all weapons except the superheavy weapon
>rollslop was elevated to an absolute
None of that is true. If anything rolling is awful in the DLC when parrying and deflect exist.

>>719943997
Not what I said, hell of course it's the main route, but would have expected the game to nudge me more toward going to the other 50% of the map first if it's closing in on the end already.

>>719938267 (OP)
The new map sucks to explore, it's needlessly complicated and layered. Plus 90% of it is really fucking dark and has the anti-soul fog layered over it so its extremely difficult to see where you're going, add in all the fucked up enemies that can snipe you from a mile away and you've got a pretty bad time. The legacy dungeons and most of the bosses are ok

I'm playing it right now after finishing the main game years ago and I just don't think it's as good. The exploration isn't as good with hardly any cool rewards, some of the bosses are just retarded 10 combo demons that you have to learn each one and riding torrent around empty fields gets boring quick

>>719947036
You just resumed the whole DLC.
It will not get any better than that.

>>719938267 (OP)
Pure kinography of the highest order.

>>719947691
The only good thing about this DLC is the aesthetic, except for some enemies who look uninspired or look like shit.
Good job to those who worked on the artistic side.
Those who came up with the gameplay ideas and the whole story and lore shit should get fired or go work for netflix.

>>719938267 (OP)
inflated ass enemy damage but kino

>>719944042
Miyazaki’s not a hack, he just flew too close to the sun. You can tell there was some vision here but it got buried under convoluted lore spaghetti and overdesigned boss fights with six phases too many. The worst part is you can feel the desperation to tie everything together, and instead it ends up unravelling threads that were better left vague. If this is what “muh deep lore” got us, then yeah, I’ll take a non-canon DLC over this mess.

I still haven't found that last one item to upgrade my spirit ash. I don't use it much anyway but the OCD is killing me for over a year now.

I don't care what people say, the world design felt better in the DLC. I loved the verticality to everything. You could see whole huge areas that you had to figure out how to eventually get to way later on. It was a good time.

Souls veteran here, these bosses doesn't belong and are le very very bad design as a non-designer

>>719949641
Masterful bait

I'll be honest with you.
I used the NPC summon against Messmer for his quest, I think he was called hornsent. But then I killed Messmer and he barely put up a fight. Almost got hitkilled by the giant snake ball of doom but that was it.
I had the based scithe guy against Nu-Radahn and he made me sweat but took around 5~6 tries without cheesing but using all tools.
The problem I feel is even if shitters get filtered by trying to play naked with only a greatsword, using "all your tools" trivializes bosses as well. From did not find a good balance, unfortunately.

>>719938267 (OP)
lots of big, boring, empty areas

>>719949641
Tale as old as time

>>719949740
For comparison, you can summon a special version of Gael against Friede but not only he doesn't help THAT much other than pulling aggro from you, he rarely sees the third phase.

>>719938267 (OP)
awesome new weapon types and items
cool maps (the running-around-picking-shit-up-grind is a problem, but only on repeat playthoughs)
bosses that are incredibly hit-or-miss depending on how you play

>>719946904
>The new map sucks to explore, it's needlessly complicated and layered.
How is that a bad thing? /v/ will complain about flat open maps and also complain about maps with verticality and hidden routes.

>>719943895
>>719944042
>>719945036
>>719945784
>filtered by the Scooby Doo fragments ADHD tranny
sad...

>>719950021
There's no pleasing the retards on this board
Cried for a decade about muh heckin' interconnectedness
From finally gave them that but on steroids with the base game and Shadow of the Erdtree, and now all of a sudden the map is too "complex" and "complicated" to navigate
You love to see it

>>719938584
>significantly worse lore
Messmer is the only good character in the whole game

>>719943386
ESL tryhard trying to sound le smart.

>>719938267 (OP)
It wasn't as good as I hoped. Many new fun weapons to play with. I liked the final boss. Some parts felt rushed and empty, and some bosses lacked intro cutscenes. Overall enjoyable by virtue of being more elden ring.

>>719938267 (OP)
>Just beat the base game. What am I in for?
seething chinks as per usual, scrubs who spammed Hoarfrost Stomp/Rivers of Blood/Moonveil/Taker's Flame back in March 2022 until they saw the credits roll crying too, mindbroken Melina and Godwyn fags

>>719950451
Retards fanficcing about Godwyn will be salty about this DLC for decades.

>>719950325
>and some bosses lacked intro cutscenes
/v/ already whines non-stop about le zanzibart forgive me cutscenes, why do we need more?

>>719938584
t. Has a skill issue.

>>719950498
why should i care about what unplayer fags think? they look cool and are a treat

>>719945036
The stuff with Marika was great. Seeing her home was one of the best moments in the game, and the whole crusade in general is interesting. Even the fucking sunflower was cool, it was a representation of the Scadutree, which itself is a visual metaphor for the failing convictions of the crusaders, who now all know Marika has abandoned them after they committed atrocities in her name. That's why in its 3rd phase it's barely holding on to life, the music turns tragic and it strikes a pose resembling the tree for its desperate explosion attack. The Scadutree itself is sort of a representation of everything scorned by the Erdtree, its sinister and yet overflowing with grace for the crusaders, it's the symbol of Marika's hypocrisy. Marika wanted a kind world free of death, but her entire order was built on mass slaughter, and her banishing of death ruined the world. The world the crusaders have everything for is falling apart, and so is the tree. Pvre kino, way better than anything in the base game with the singular exception of the shunning grounds/Frenzied Flame.

>>719950594
Forgot image

>>719943386
Shielding and countering is stronger than ever in the DLC.

>>719950594
You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs, Jack.

>>719939220
>just jump attack him, knowing that his stab will miss you because it's not locked on like every other boss
yeah git gud

>>719950747
Holy based.

>>719938267 (OP)
Its the best From DLC but the difficulty gets so high sometimes it gets a bit unfun
mostly just in the beginning when low on scadu frags, then it gets easier until you get to the bullshit last boss

>>719950747
OH NO NO NO NO

SOTE IS TOO OVERTUNED SISTERS, DON'T WATCH

>>719939220
>square off
Closed the webm instantly. L2 spamming shitters get the fuck off my board. You are garbage at video games.
>>719943158
>d-downvoted
Mindbroken
>>719949740
>I used the NPC summon
Stopped reading, you're a shitter and bad at video games.
>>719949874
>summons don't actually do much trust me bro!
Deranged shitter cope
>>719950126
>downvoted!!!
You're mindbroken
>>719950594
>the sunflower that dies in ten hits and vomits out an AOE is so good actually!
Damn you're retarded, glazing the easiest boss in the DLC is fucking unreal. You're a shitter.

>>719950696
It wasn't just the hornsent. Marika's order was hypoctical, full of zealotry and persecution (picrel). It makes me wonder about Radagon, he was a fundamentalist but he was also the one who made peace with Liurnia. He represented a lot of the best of the golden order, maybe that's why he fought so hard to repair the ring. I do wish we got more insight into him in the base game, that's my biggest complaint with the story, it's a little hard to get invested in him and his weird dual nature with Marika when the game gives us so little information about his motivations. I generally didn't like Miquella's part of the DLC story, but I liked his motivation, it seemed like a natural progression from his mother's dream of an all-encompassing order, and hearing Leda say "make the world a gentler place" did kind of get to me after we saw all the terrible things present in the dlc.

>>719949409
It's the opposite actually. He doubled down on keeping the lore ambiguous and arcane. The Putrescent Knight was supposed to be connected to the Gloam Eyed Queen but they dropped that in favor of making it into a mass of living flesh. They had Mesmer as a major character yet they didn't have new info on the Serpent cult. The whole point is that Marika erased most of the history of the world and know we cannot know for sure.

>>719939220
>Me after fighting her for the first time

>>719951010
>sunflower dies in 3 hits
>xhe used a fire build
You didn't beat the game

>>719938267 (OP)
More legacy dungeons but shorter. Very cool vertical layout. Extremely fun new weapons and spells. Bosses and new enemies are pretty good overall but the final boss is a true RPG Super Boss and will make you pull your hair out figuring it out.

>>719950594
The shaman village was uninteresting, no impact on me, I was swimming in gall when I saw it and the context made it impactless.
There were no crusade, except in the trailer.
The trailer is better than the whole DLC, that's it.
Elden Ring is lower than it was before, thanks to the work of the people who made this shitty DLC.
Good work.

>>719939220
>Git gud
No
I will just keep spamming L2 thank you

in playing sote rn too and its kino

>>719953267
10 millions sales for a 30 millions sales game nigger
It's one of the most successful DLC of all time so keep on coping kek

>>719954348
How many labubus do you have?
Are you collecting Call of Duty games?
An unusual number of people seem to agree with me to a certain degree.
This DLC is rotten, something feels off and I cannot fully grasp all the problems, a mix ofthe DLC feeling wrong and being bad.
But a good thing is that the people who made the trailer are talented and had nice direction, not like the DLC itself.
The people who directed it should get fired.

>>719954660
Cope more avatar faggot

it's basically elden ring 2.0 just with the bloat cut out. i like it better than base.

>>719938267 (OP)
Them showing DS2 fags what a proper gankboss NPC fight should look like

>>719955198
>le 6 gorillions players!!!
You will never be a woman.

>>719951075
I just can't beat the final boss. I'm level 320-ish with 80 Str and Dex. I did a level 1 challenge in the first game and I thought I "got gud" from that, but it's just not enough. The battle just feels like total chaos.

>>719938267 (OP)
Fascinatingly much better crypts.

>>719938267 (OP)
It's more of the same but with a horrendous map and an obnoxious scavenger hunt.

>Big parts of the map are hidden behind illusory walls or require you to do a specific gesture in front of a statue

Great game design.

>>719958241
>It's okay when Grey Linear Dogshit Simulator does it

>>719938267 (OP)
Kino

>>719958241
Unironically yes, its what put From on the map alongside the le prepare to die meme.

>>719938627
Take note Soulskids, this is a true example of a franchise that actually has had its lore ruined forever.

>>719938267 (OP)
You're in for the absolute best piece of DLC Fromsoft ever put out
People whined about the 40 bucks price tag but it has so much content it could be its own standalone game
11 new main bosses, a few new minibosses, 3 new Legacy Dungeons, and 1 or 2 areas that could be considered Legacy Dungeons as well, albeit smaller
Compare that to Dark Souls 3 DLC, where for 30 bucks you got 2 really small new areas, only 4 new bosses, and 2 meme bosses
The difference in quality AND quantity is night and day

>>719938267 (OP)
scatutree fragments

>>719938267 (OP)
mongrel intruder

O lifeless creature embrace thine oblivion as shall I

>>719953876
Giants hunt was the only thing that got me through the dlc and latter half of the base game

No way I would've otherwise spent the time learning how to beat all these dogshit bosses

>>719938267 (OP)
I'm praying you're running a Poise Break build. My first attempt I mainly ignored the mechanic and suffered, but when I tried it again as a BONKer it wasn't nearly as bad.

first playthrough bad, but second one good