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Anonymous No.719938667 >>719938759 >>719939435 >>719939526 >>719939628 >>719939639 >>719939693 >>719939817 >>719939860 >>719939907 >>719940201 >>719940360 >>719940404 >>719940668 >>719941029 >>719941239 >>719941483 >>719941485 >>719941518 >>719941559 >>719941830 >>719941859 >>719941956 >>719942901 >>719943815 >>719944069 >>719944246 >>719944552 >>719945330 >>719945517 >>719950842 >>719951876 >>719953360 >>719956283 >>719956520 >>719956597 >>719956686 >>719958303 >>719958324 >>719958396 >>719961956 >>719962145 >>719962867 >>719964156 >>719964271 >>719964338
>"RAYTRACING IS BAD BECAUSE... BECAUSE I'M POOR OKAY"
Anonymous No.719938759
>>719938667 (OP)
There is no difference
Anonymous No.719939405 >>719939498 >>719939707 >>719942732 >>719951052 >>719956841 >>719960535 >>719960647 >>719960668 >>719960759 >>719960975 >>719961925 >>719962331
top looks better
Anonymous No.719939429
>it's a sunk cost fallacy fag spams the same thread over and over episode
Anonymous No.719939435
>>719938667 (OP)
>"RAYTRACING IS GOOD BECAUSE... BECAUSE I WASTE MONEY ON STUPID SHIT OKAY"
Anonymous No.719939473
Yeah, I'm a poorfag. I don't get paid enough frames per month to make raytracing a desirable tradeoff.
Anonymous No.719939498 >>719940668
>>719939405
No it doesnt
Anonymous No.719939526
>>719938667 (OP)
>4090
>ray tracing off
lol
Anonymous No.719939550
>turn on raytracing
>game still looks like a PS3 game
What's the point?
Anonymous No.719939619 >>719939687 >>719939893 >>719939957 >>719942170 >>719942324 >>719951412 >>719951542
recommend me good raytaced games.
and no gta5 is not a good game.
Anonymous No.719939628
>>719938667 (OP)
looks like shit.
you can achieve this with basic shader colour grading and bloom for 1/1000th of the cost.
Anonymous No.719939639 >>719940723 >>719940972 >>719954393 >>719961062
>>719938667 (OP)
Light probes can do this too at a fraction of the cost.
Anonymous No.719939687 >>719939893 >>719945406 >>719945514 >>719945602
>>719939619
Cyberpunk is still the only point of raytracing
Anonymous No.719939693
>>719938667 (OP)
meaningless detail you will never notice unless you look at them side-by-side, which you wont.
Anonymous No.719939707 >>719939854
>>719939405
the only thing getting topped is you.
Anonymous No.719939753 >>719956743 >>719960237 >>719960724
How are you gonna cope when RTX is dropped like PhysX was?
Anonymous No.719939817 >>719952653
>>719938667 (OP)
How does raytracing improve the gameplay? How does it make a game more fun?
Anonymous No.719939854
>>719939707
Man I wish a hot futa would top me
Anonymous No.719939860
>>719938667 (OP)
Which one is ray traced brother. Ray tracing was dumb since doom 3
Anonymous No.719939893 >>719940091 >>719940135 >>719961250
>>719939619
>>719939687
Retarded boomers stuck in 2020. Indiana Jones and Doom TDA don't even boot up without ray tracing.
Anonymous No.719939907 >>719940027
>>719938667 (OP)
>there is no difference
>you got scammee by nvidia
>raytracing off looks better
>the human eye cant see raytracing
>sovlless
Did I miss anything?
Anonymous No.719939957
>>719939619
Quake 2 rtx
Anonymous No.719940027 >>719940127
>>719939907
yeah you missed that the cost benefit ratio is so high you might as well be driving a sports car that costs $1,000,000 on a highway with a speed limit of 60 mph instead of wasting your money on this trash.

What are you, poor?
Anonymous No.719940091 >>719940253
>>719939893
No one's playing these slop games. Never respond to me again
Anonymous No.719940112 >>719940282 >>719941153
Remember when nvidia actually, unironically thought they'd get to start selling separate 'physx cards'? Oh yes, you're not going to memoryhole that, you green gremlins.
Anonymous No.719940127 >>719940209 >>719940217 >>719942362 >>719956897
>>719940027
Damn bruh you really is a broke nigga huh?
Anonymous No.719940135 >>719940253
>>719939893
>movie game
>universally panned trash
great argument
Anonymous No.719940201
>>719938667 (OP)
>shitty game
>add bad RT implementation
>shitty game, now ugly
Also, woke character in pic. Amazed OP didn't have a "y'all" in it.
>pic stolen from someone else, because OP doesn't have GTA5 or a card capable of RT
Every. Fucking. Time.
Anonymous No.719940209
>>719940127
stop talkign like a nigger. also that card is worse than what i have, and can barely run anything ray traced at all without looking like smeared upscaled shit. you fucking retard
Anonymous No.719940217
>>719940127
>5060
This is one of the worst gpus ever released in history, why the ever living fuck did you link this e-waste.
Anonymous No.719940230
>he paid $21893752 for pretty screenshots
LMAO
This is how retarded investors keep getting baited, I guess. Get shiny keys dangled over their heads and they go OOOOH AAAAAH
Anonymous No.719940253 >>719940339 >>719940378 >>719940414 >>719940417 >>719941595 >>719957039
>>719940091
>>719940135
Both of them are multi-award winning commercial and critical hits. Sorry that you can't afford a $300 GPU on your $200/week neetbux, autists. (Not sorry.)
Anonymous No.719940282
>>719940112
Separate PhysX cards existed before Nvidia bought them, mongo.
Anonymous No.719940339
>>719940253
kill (You)rself
Anonymous No.719940360
>>719938667 (OP)
Bottom is better, but top is good enough. As long as it doesn't look like a PS2 game, it's fine.
Anonymous No.719940378
>>719940253
lol unreal this fucking idiot actually bought a 5060 8gb
Anonymous No.719940404
>>719938667 (OP)
>It's another meme Nvidia technology that gets a sloppy implementation in games because it runs like ass on any card other than whatever Nvidia wants to sell
>Will be doomed to be forgotten in 10 years, dropped by new Nvidia cards and only implemented by AMD as an open source implementation
Anonymous No.719940414
>>719940253
Do you get paid to post stuff like this or do you just do it for fun? Actually curious.
Anonymous No.719940417 >>719961365
>>719940253
>commercial and critical hits
>commercial
Prove this. They both flopped hard. Nobody buys games that use Vulkan.
t. have a free copy of Dark Ages
Anonymous No.719940668
>>719938667 (OP)
>>719939498
Bottom is simply too bright as it completely exposes the low poly count of the geometry, which cannot have been the original intention by the artists. Bottom is also unrealistic as you'd normally be blinded by the light from outside, making inside seem much darker.
Anonymous No.719940723 >>719952795
>>719939639

Exactly, game engines do this once before the game is built and deployed.

Many orders of magnitude more efficient than trying to brute-force it several times per second on every single gaming device separately while the actual game is executing.
Anonymous No.719940972 >>719941092 >>719943980
>>719939639
Enjoy your static environments and fixed time of day, retard
Anonymous No.719941029 >>719941073
>>719938667 (OP)
So why couldn't developers paint the textures like on bottom without casting a gorillon rays?
Anonymous No.719941073
>>719941029
Dynamic time of day, retarded brokie
Anonymous No.719941092 >>719941115
>>719940972
Why can't they prebake a mask that changes based on time of day then?
Anonymous No.719941115 >>719941143
>>719941092
Because even with a lot of time samples you will have shit looking abrupt jumps
Anonymous No.719941139
The most important thing to me is fun gameplay, all this stupid shit is superfluous in comparison
Anonymous No.719941143 >>719941226
>>719941115
>what is smoothing/interpolation
Anonymous No.719941153
>>719940112
you're a complete fucking retard, PhysX was a company that made the technology and the card to utilise it, then Nvidia bought them and put the processor responsible for the physics simulation in every one of their graphics cards

Nvidia are the reason you DIDN'T need an extra card for PhysX, which is what the original PhysX company's plan was

every day I wish more and more that this place wasn;t completely anonymous, so I could make a note of your name and call you out on being a liar whenever you make a retarded claim, because I am certain you do this "confidently incorrect" shit A LOT
Anonymous No.719941226 >>719941337 >>719954393
>>719941143
Okay then there's suddenly a lot of pedestrians blocking the gateway
Or a big ass truck pulls up
And the interior is still fucking bright as if the sun could still shine in directly
Just stop being fucking poor
Anonymous No.719941239 >>719941275 >>719941275
>>719938667 (OP)
bottom is achievable without ray tracing, next
Anonymous No.719941275
>>719941239
See >>719941239 and kys for being a dumb retarded brokie
Anonymous No.719941319
I'm literally playing this game with ray tracing on, on an Xbox that I bought for $400
People here are just insanely fucking poor
Anonymous No.719941337 >>719941390
>>719941226
You can have baked shadow and still cast additional shadows.
Just multiply the shadow intensity for those pixels.
Anonymous No.719941390 >>719941916
>>719941337
No you are retarded as fuck, you need to change the lightmap to account for the lack of bounced light on all the walls.
Anonymous No.719941483 >>719941756 >>719942539
>>719938667 (OP)
Top one: 86 FPS
Bottom one: 21 FPS
Anonymous No.719941485
>>719938667 (OP)
videogames are about gameplay, not graphics, go watch a movie you fucking faggot
Anonymous No.719941518
>>719938667 (OP)
>looks better
>runs better
I liked this update tbqh
Anonymous No.719941521
Funny how all the morons shitting on RT in this thread are also demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the benefits of ray traced global illumination.
Anonymous No.719941559 >>719941628 >>719945216 >>719960880
>>719938667 (OP)
I honestly hate poors.
Yes. I hate you. If you're poor, I fucking hate you.
I lie awake some nights, just wondering how much progress we've lost, how much shit hasn't made it to production or has been held back by pandering to poors and making/releasing something they can afford instead.
This is tyranny by poverty FFS.
Anonymous No.719941595
>>719940253
the only thing winning awards around here is your mom, at whoring
Anonymous No.719941628 >>719942096
>>719941559
Enjoy wasting thousands of dollars that you could have spent on other things just so you can play a boring shit game upscaled from 480p and with 3x generated fake frames.
Anonymous No.719941647 >>719941756
>dev too lazy to do their own lighting which
>slaps in raytracing to do it automatically at the cost of tanking fps
its just jeets shilling
Anonymous No.719941756 >>719941853
>>719941647
>>719941483
this update runs better thoughbeit
Anonymous No.719941830 >>719941939
>>719938667 (OP)
dx8 was peak, everything past that is bloat
Anonymous No.719941853
>>719941756
doesn't it run better not because of the raytracing but because the original ps3 game was x86 instead of x64
Anonymous No.719941859
>>719938667 (OP)
Correct. Gonna cry about it?
Anonymous No.719941916
>>719941390
That's the usual approach. But imagine the following
>lightmap "texture"
>red channel determines how dim each part is when lit and unlit based on default lighting conditions
>blue channel determines how this changes based on time of day
>green channel can do something else
Sky is the limit.
Anonymous No.719941939
>>719941830
TRVKE
saucy No.719941956 >>719941998
>>719938667 (OP)
Resident Evil 9 is going all in on path-tracing.

They aren't even trying to cope anymore.
Anonymous No.719941998 >>719942220
>>719941956
capcom is so fucking retarded, this shit killed wilds and its gonna kill re9 too if its also doing the stupid fuck open world shit on top of the retarded raytracing meme
Anonymous No.719942096 >>719942146
>>719941628
>Enjoy wasting thousands of dollars
Time you enjoy wasting is never time wasted, anon.
The same can be said of money.
I consider it investing in something that'll evolve into something cooler and more entertaining.
Anonymous No.719942146 >>719942469
>>719942096
I consider it being a cuck
Anonymous No.719942170 >>719942289 >>719948238
>>719939619
still waiting
saucy No.719942220 >>719948238
>>719941998
It probably won't be that bad. I can run RE9 with RT at 300FPS on a 6700XT.
Anonymous No.719942289 >>719942539
>>719942170
Doom the dark ages
Anonymous No.719942324 >>719942380
>>719939619
metal bringer
Anonymous No.719942362
>>719940127
>8gb
Lmfao you can’t be serious
Anonymous No.719942380
>>719942324
That looks sick, like one of those old timey 3D GBA games
Anonymous No.719942469
>>719942146
>I'm a crab and I'm happy in my bucket!
Weird flex but okay :/
Anonymous No.719942474
graphics don't matter in video games, only the gameplay.
Anonymous No.719942539 >>719942638
>>719941483
So both are unplayably slow.
>>719942289
2 rupees have been desposited in your account.
Anonymous No.719942638 >>719942754
>>719942539
Lmao idiot nobody would work under 15 lakh rupees per post.
Anonymous No.719942732
>>719939405
you are poor
Anonymous No.719942754 >>719942829
>>719942638
You can buy a bomb for 20.
Anonymous No.719942829
>>719942754
>the villagers in Zelda games are running scam calls to the USA to earn their rupees
Anonymous No.719942878
I don't want to be controversial but God, GTA5 is fucking ugly.
Anonymous No.719942901 >>719942959 >>719942967 >>719950729
>>719938667 (OP)
Raytracing is for screenshots. That's it. It's not worth the 25%+ drain on system resources. I have a 5080 and raytracing is the difference between hearing the GPU fans or hearing nothing from that box. I'm leaving that gimmicky shit off.
Anonymous No.719942959 >>719943118
>>719942901
In general you should put a 90% cap on your GPU and CPU, it will run much more silent and prolongs their lives.
Anonymous No.719942967
>>719942901
>PC is in a storage room off the garage
>never hear my fans
It's good to know what you're doing, I guess.
Anonymous No.719943118 >>719943912
>>719942959
That is stupid, you are not using your hardware.
Make a custom fan curve if it gets too loud. And undervolt. But you are too stupid for that.
Anonymous No.719943301 >>719943760
why is it never two screenshot of a good game?
Anonymous No.719943760
>>719943301
Most people post images stolen from YouTube thumbnails or random websites. The amount of people who play games in /v/ is likely in the single digits, and 3/4 of those are on ancient hardware.
So, the showcase will always be The Witcher 3, CP2077, or GTA5.
Anonymous No.719943815
>>719938667 (OP)
Can I run the lower at 165 fps at 3440x1440 with a 4090?
Anonymous No.719943912 >>719944116
>>719943118
Undervolting implies using lower clock frequencies too, idiot.
Anonymous No.719943980
>>719940972
I FUCKING DID AND THEY TOOK IT FROM ME
Anonymous No.719944069
>>719938667 (OP)
>pay "premium" and you receive the best of the best!
>the best of the best:
>rtx hair
>half the fps
>tranny frames
>fewer hardware components
Anonymous No.719944116 >>719944210
>>719943912
Not necessarily. Undervolting does just that, reduce voltage at certain frequencies. The card still turbos or tries to turbo as high as it can within its thermal and power envelopes or it will crash with an unfinished or bad undervolt. In fact a card can even have higher frequencies when undervolted as it can reach higher frequencies for a set voltage without hitting a TDP limit. In this case you obviously won’t be getting any thermal or acoustic gains though.
Anonymous No.719944210 >>719944271 >>719944306 >>719944347
>>719944116
You need silicone lottery for that but anyone can undercoat + decrease clocks or just decrease clocks
Anonymous No.719944246
>>719938667 (OP)
Realtime Global illumination is over 17 years old
Crysis 1 had a form of it in 2007
it wasnt until the RT scam 8 years ago when devs stripped rtgi out of their engines only to ironically rip Ray Tracing back out and replace it with voxel/baked solutions LOL
Anonymous No.719944271 >>719944306
>>719944210
Yes obviously. My point being that undervolting isn’t always lower clocks.
Anonymous No.719944306 >>719944347
>>719944210
>>719944271
Thanks for not pointing out that my autocorrect changed undervolt to undercloak
Anonymous No.719944347 >>719944485
>>719944210
>>719944306
undercoat? undercloak? You ok dude?
Anonymous No.719944485
>>719944347
Not my fault that it autocorrects it to undermount
Anonymous No.719944552
>>719938667 (OP)
still not upgrading from 1080ti
Anonymous No.719944679 >>719944769
Unironically, what kind of ceo would hear "this game runs smoothly on 20% of the pc market" and not fire the one responsible immediately?
Shouldn't they be aiming for "games running on phones" tier so that even 3rd worlders coild buy the damn thing?
Anonymous No.719944769 >>719945514
>>719944679
because ceos don't play games and they see 100fps (framegen) is fine and don't understand nor care what input delay is
Anonymous No.719945216 >>719945307
>>719941559
you're just too dumb to realize it's the non-productive early adopters that are getting milked
way too many idiots who will pay thousands for incremental shit every six months. there's no incentive even for a company out of no where to blow the competition away because what about the next version?
and without the mainstream consumer you wouldn't even have a quarter of the dogshit content you do have. you'd basically be paying out the ass for games from 3 generations ago due to lack of competition.
Anonymous No.719945307
>>719945216
>you're just dumb
you're just poor
Anonymous No.719945330 >>719945394 >>719945863
>>719938667 (OP)

Can be solved with baked lighting but can't expect a multimillion dollar company to have the manpower to add that in here.
Anonymous No.719945394 >>719945483
>>719945330
>just use baked lighting...
>reeee why does my game now need 400gb installation and use 64gb VRAM
Anonymous No.719945406
>>719939687
>Cyberpunk is still the only point of raytracing
Can't even run it without my 5090 crashing to desktop for some reason. But I've tested path tracing for Alan Wake 2 and RTX Portal and it does look pretty decent. Even if it eviscerates framerate. Not sure what's going on with cyberpunk. If it's my hardware or the game. Game straight refusing to get into the menu. On older drivers i can get into the menu, but it crashes in game anyway.
Anonymous No.719945483 >>719945567
>>719945394

$50 dollar SSD vs 2k GPU and 60 fps
Anonymous No.719945514 >>719945605
>>719944769
>doesn't have a framegen capable card
>doesn't understand that you generally couple framegen with upscaling
>since you render at a lower resolution than your target, the input latency is lower
>when you add framegen, the total latency with upscaling is generally lower than just brute forcing it at native (assuming not trying to shoot for the stars with detail levels on underpowered hardware)
>since the difference in quality between native and upscaled is negligible at best (again, assuming it's set up properly), there's no real reason not to do this

TL;DR you're expecting massive leaps in shader counts for native rendering perfornance and they're coming slower than normal. Advancing the tensor core tech is currently the concept that will produce the biggest performance leap.
>>719939687
CP's not even a good implementation. It's just greasy, and people think shiny = good looking.
Note: these are the same people who post in the "I had reflections on the PSX! It had ray tracing????????????" threads. They don't know anything about ray tracing other than reflections. Since CP has a lot off nearly every surface, it must be good.
Anonymous No.719945517 >>719945602 >>719946064
>>719938667 (OP)
Explain why you need a 3000$ gpu to have some orange on a wall when you could just... Make the texture orange.
Anonymous No.719945567 >>719945948
>>719945483
are you new here? people sob their tits off because a new game has a 70gb download which takes a month on their dialup internet and takes too long to decompress on their SCSI drive
Anonymous No.719945572 >>719962467
Anonymous No.719945602
>>719939687
And, to samefag, >>719945517 sums it up. It adds orange to a wall, according to him.
Anonymous No.719945605 >>719945646
>>719945514
I have a framegen card you coping indian retard, it still feels like absolute dogshit if the game isn't already hitting a playable framerate without it and thats the problem devs are shitting out halfassed games that don't run well without framegen and expecting it to carry their shitty work.
Anonymous No.719945646
>>719945605
If you were white, you wouldn't have one. Only us jeets have nice PCs. White men are running AMD cards from 15 years ago.
Anonymous No.719945863
>>719945330
None of this shit is necessary in the slightest. Make a game that plays on the fucking xbox 360 and then you can add a "4k download" that increases fidelity for the people that want it. Thats how it should be done.
Anonymous No.719945948 >>719946017
>>719945567
500 mbps/s and 10 TB of SSD storage here and I will never stop complaining about waste. None of the games over 50 kb warrant that size.
Anonymous No.719946017 >>719946369
>>719945948
that's because you're poor
saucy No.719946064
>>719945517
There are definitely caveats to streamlined technology, but the fact that it even exists and the only adopters are AAAA devs is a good sign that gaming is being held back by convenience and general perceptions of novelty.
Anonymous No.719946369
>>719946017
Not where it counts though.
Anonymous No.719948238
>>719942170
see
>>719942220
Anonymous No.719949310 >>719950893
raytracing isn't bad, it's just meaningless and useless for gamers. It's only good for screenshots for the shareholders.
Anonymous No.719949905
ray tracing is pointless until the basic bitch *060 card can do path tracing without dropping the framerate by 90%. better looking lighting isnt worth playability.
Anonymous No.719949948
Can't even tell which is which unless it's labelled.
>that'll be $3000 + tip
Anonymous No.719950219 >>719950508
Aegia was the one who wanted to sell an individual PhysX card that would just do the physics computation, but that was before Nvidia bought those guys out and physx was put on the card. Physx was also never ever used in the way the Aegia guys claimed it would be (no game ever had realistic glass breaking or realistic water motion)
well...WAS on Nvidia cards, until the 5000 line and it ain't no more I guess.
Anonymous No.719950508
>>719950219
5000 series still has PhsyX but not the 32bit binaries.
Anonymous No.719950729
>>719942901
It depends on the game honestly and mostly pathtracing. In Cyberpunk playing a few hours with pathtracing and then going back to raster just makes the game look "not right".
Anonymous No.719950842 >>719950886 >>719950920 >>719950998
>>719938667 (OP)
Non-RT methods like SVOGI can do it almost as accurately at a fraction of the performance cost. I mean Crysis 2 had (non-baked) GI with back in 2011. Sure it looked pretty rough but it was technically more impressive than throwing a comparatively huge amount of computing power at the problem and pretty much brute forcing it.
Anonymous No.719950886
>>719950842
the non-RT methods work well in certain places and look out of place in others
Anonymous No.719950893
>>719949310
>it's just meaningless and useless for gamers
>peasants aren't even playing their retro games raytraced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCGnQoakOWc
Anonymous No.719950920
>>719950842
>2018 Cryengine still btfos every billion dollar jeet engine like UE.
Kek
Anonymous No.719950998 >>719951829
>>719950842
I don't know whether that's on SVOGI or not but KCD ran like absolute trash.
I've heard KCD2 runs much better though.
Anonymous No.719951036
Because it massively increases performance cost and enables more devs to be lazy and offload that cost to the consumer.
Anonymous No.719951052
>>719939405
That's the ray-traced one
Anonymous No.719951082 >>719951160 >>719951794 >>719951963 >>719952208
>RAY TRACING IS A MEM- ACK
Anonymous No.719951160
>>719951082
I mean normal RT is a meme in Cyberpunk, only reflections actually do something to the image quality.
Pathtracing though, that one is good.
Anonymous No.719951176
Bring back vertex painted shadows.
Anonymous No.719951412
>>719939619
Lego Builders Journey
Anonymous No.719951438 >>719951648
Raytracing capable hardware has been out for almost a decade now guys.
Anons are acting like you need to be Freddy Francesco to play games with ray tracing lol.
Anonymous No.719951542 >>719962752
>>719939619
Heartbound. Fully ray traced game that runs on a fridge
Anonymous No.719951648
>>719951438
Well it's more about not being able to raytrace in 120 fps.
Anonymous No.719951794 >>719952215
>>719951082
>44 fps
epic bro
Anonymous No.719951829
>>719950998
>I don't know whether that's on SVOGI or not but KCD ran like absolute trash.
Which is why Warhorse downgraded the first game for it to run on consoles. Among gutting the forests in the game and plenty of other things from the beta. It running bad at that time was not necessarily a bad thing because it would have just been a game that would be a good benchmark for PC hardware in general, because of it's technical achievements. It could have easily been toggle option for people using worse hardware. What they opted for was doing everything so the shitty PS4 and xbox one's potato hardware could run it. That's the real reason they did it. Warhorse are a console first studio.
Anonymous No.719951876
>>719938667 (OP)
Which one is supposed to be raytracing? It just looks like saturation difference in your pic.
Anonymous No.719951963
>>719951082
Now move around and we'll see how """good""" that looks.
Anonymous No.719952208
>>719951082
dark future vs gay future
Anonymous No.719952215
>>719951794
is that better?
Anonymous No.719952653 >>719954468 >>719957460
>>719939817
With properly implemented raytracing you can have all kinds of light or sound based tricks that would require hardcoded events in a traditional game. You can have sound that seems to come from a direction it actually doesn't because of traytraced sound. You can have games where inferring things from a room you cannot actually see is possible solely because of raytraced lighting bouncing off of visible walls and into the players' eyes. You might as well ask what use is there in introducing a third dimension into game worlds when you can already jump and shoot in 2d. It's all about using the new features properly
Anonymous No.719952795 >>719964503
>>719940723
Yeah and this is exactly how you get unreal engineslop with completely static worlds because even the tinies movement of a single prop would completely shatter the illusion these pre-baked lightnings create
Anonymous No.719953360
>>719938667 (OP)
I'm not sure which is which but I think top looks better
Anonymous No.719954393
>>719939639
>>719941226
You can actually do this with light probes believe it or not. There is a way to propagate screenspace data back to them and update them.
Anonymous No.719954468 >>719955272
>>719952653
>can have sound that seems to come from a direction it actually doesn't because of traytraced sound.
What ? Raytracing is for light physics.
Anonymous No.719954989
Which one is good and which one is bad? The top would be an accurate depiction of mid-day when the shadows are heavier and you don't have as much red light bouncing everywhere, but the bottom suits a low sun angle more at specific times of the day and gives a more nostalgic feel, the way you feel when the sun sets.

I'd have to see them in-game to know which one is better, one just has more red light reflecting (the way light works in many cases and in art), the other has a more defined mid-day sun and heavy shadow look. Neither of them look outright better, light doesn't work the same every day or every time of the day.
T. exterior house painter, so don't try to bullshit me on how light should look under a shadow.
Anonymous No.719955272
>>719954468
it's for anything which reflects or bounces.
Anonymous No.719956283
>>719938667 (OP)
You're free to say ray tracing isn't the beginning of extremely unoptimized lazy jeet-esque devving for games but you'd also be wrong.
Anonymous No.719956520
>>719938667 (OP)
Why couldn't this be baked-into the textures?
Anonymous No.719956597
>>719938667 (OP)
Why can't you just use proper textures? Why use raytracing to colour correct? That seems like an insanely expensive computing tast to just change the colour and the shadow map slightly.
Anonymous No.719956686
>>719938667 (OP)
>Increase brightness indoors
>WAO SUCH GRAPHICS!
Anonymous No.719956743
>>719939753
You won't need to upgrade by that point because the industry will be past collapse.
Anonymous No.719956841
>>719939405
Wow, you're quite the digital dummy, aren't ya?
Anonymous No.719956897
>>719940127
>8gb
Anonymous No.719957039 >>719958127
>>719940253
This is what sub 70iq looks like
Anonymous No.719957460 >>719960437
>>719952653
>that would require hardcoded events in a traditional game.
So nothing new that couldn't be done before. Got it.
Anonymous No.719958127
>>719957039
I wish that were the case, but 70IQ or lower would have difficulty navigating a PC, a phone or this website in general.

that's sadly a midwit acting like a fool believing himself clever.
Anonymous No.719958303 >>719960638 >>719967515
>>719938667 (OP)
Seeing the new Doom game failed because it needs raytracing is so fucking funny
Like finally these rtxtards get a very public loss and I can't be happier about it
Anonymous No.719958324
>>719938667 (OP)
>lighting
>lighting, pink
Careful not to fall for it
Anonymous No.719958396
>>719938667 (OP)
i've been enjoying V enhanced, got me into gta online again for the first time in years
also nice that pc got it for free
Anonymous No.719960237
>>719939753
the rtx isn't gonna be dropped because it isn't exclusive to nvidia, also you do know that raytracing is the goal which game graphics move towards to?
i can see that some of the raytracing supporting features getting dropped, like neurocaching upscaling and etc (not these specifically, but there are some nvidia exclusive ones i think)
Anonymous No.719960437
>>719957460
>I can hardcode this wall to collapse upon collision so why would you ever want a dynamic destructible environment.
I am quoting you
Anonymous No.719960535
>>719939405
Brown 970jeet
Anonymous No.719960638
>>719958303
>I celebrate my poverty
Anonymous No.719960647
>>719939405
Poor
Anonymous No.719960668
>>719939405
spbp
Anonymous No.719960724
>>719939753
>frogposter
>completely retarded
Anonymous No.719960759
>>719939405
Brown
Anonymous No.719960826
Raytracing benefits devs and Nvidia more than it benefits consumers. These lighting effects could already be accomplished if devs took the time to do it, but instead, they take the easy way out, which results in massive performance issues for a slight visual upgrade that may not even look better.
Anonymous No.719960880
>>719941559
the truth is that the "master race" was always 90% browns living in favelas with a shitty laptop
these same people spent the last 3 decades telling you consoles were "holding back" gaming
Anonymous No.719960975
>>719939405
cocksucking cutie poorfag
Anonymous No.719961062
>>719939639
enjoy your light leaks, retard.
Anonymous No.719961250 >>719961706
>>719939893
>Indiana Jones and Doom TDA don't even boot up without ray tracing.
imagine buying those retarded pieces of shit
Anonymous No.719961365
>>719940417
>require ray tracing
>everything is dark
>all skies are cloudy
Anonymous No.719961691
cyberpunk with path tracing is phenomenal, but it is still the only good use of ray tracing and you need a 5090 + DLSS quality + DLSS ray reconstruction to make it work at 4K
Anonymous No.719961706 >>719961750 >>719961858
>>719961250
How much did this even cost? Seems like a retarded cost-benefit ratio
Anonymous No.719961750 >>719961804
>>719961706
brown poorfag
Anonymous No.719961804
>>719961750
You must be great with money. Not.
Anonymous No.719961858 >>719961902
>>719961706
$4000. it's overkill, but i have substantial income and savings
Anonymous No.719961902 >>719962102 >>719962138
>>719961858
A retail job isn't "substantial income" and you should have saved that money.
Anonymous No.719961925
>>719939405
this tbΥ°, bottom looks like a Blender rendering animation or something
Anonymous No.719961956 >>719962037
>>719938667 (OP)
amazing cope bro. Keep rationalizing.
Anonymous No.719962037
>>719961956
prove the OP wrong and post your hwinfo
Anonymous No.719962102
>>719961902
>saved that money
for what?
Anonymous No.719962138 >>719962210 >>719962296
>>719961902
>A retail job
im an american with a director level corporate job. given the time of day i have to assume youre a eruopoor who cannot comprehend
Anonymous No.719962145 >>719962227 >>719962228
>>719938667 (OP)
so which one is suppose to be raytraced?
Anonymous No.719962210 >>719962367
>>719962138
>director level corporate job
>on fucking 4chan /v/
hahahahahahahahaha
Anonymous No.719962227
>>719962145
the one with more realistic bounce lighting filling the room. though it still looks like ass because of the low res textures
Anonymous No.719962228
>>719962145
the one with unnatural and bad looking light
Anonymous No.719962260
fuck jannies
Anonymous No.719962296 >>719962367
>>719962138
do you also happen to be an engineer, Mutahar saar? Thank God for your father solving ebola
Anonymous No.719962331
>>719939405
yeah because the top is raytraced
bottom is not
Anonymous No.719962367 >>719962469
>>719962296
>>719962210
Just look how the poors can't handle someone who doesn't live in the same poverty stricken state they're accustomed
Anonymous No.719962467
>>719945572
if your SSR is like that top image, the retards who coded that are worse than trained chimpanzees to fuck something so simple this badly
Anonymous No.719962469 >>719962531 >>719963218
>>719962367
Poo coping hahahahah. Don't you have someone to rape? Other than your mother that is
Anonymous No.719962531
>>719962469
>poors calling others indians
[hearty kek]
Anonymous No.719962631
>719962469
>719962531
>Shartrannies disagreeing with each other to move goalposts
not even worthy of a (you) and quake 2 RTX shits on this entire thread hard, sad that there is no remaster support Yet
Anonymous No.719962752 >>719963035
>>719951542
why do you lie?
Anonymous No.719962867
>>719938667 (OP)
Looked the best on PS3
Anonymous No.719962980
I have RT capable card and only time I activated RT was in Doom Eternal, saw my muddy reflection in a window on a building, I said cool and turned it off. Why would I tripple the usage of my GPU for something like this I dont know. Games had reflections since 1996
Anonymous No.719963035
>>719962752
Poo mad
Anonymous No.719963218
>>719962469
youre arguing with someone who isnt even me. also no, not an engineer or i would have said that
Anonymous No.719963268
Don't know about other games but I've been replaying CP77 with path tracing on after getting a 5070 ti and it genuinely makes the game look so much better. Everything just looks flat without it
Anonymous No.719963342 >>719964086
That would be 5000$ plus a tip
Anonymous No.719964030 >>719964334
RTX never justifies the performance loss. It just doesn't. The card you use or whether or not you can afford it is irrelevant. It's the same thing as godrays or any other gimmick of its time. Calling it out for the lazy bullshit that it is will always be justified. It's just a con to sell cards. It won't be implemented well enough for another 10 years.
Anonymous No.719964086 >>719964206 >>719964682
>>719963342
Asa game developer this is amusing, shadows are 1000x more difficult to implement and optimize than "reflections" (in this case just cloning and mirroring the light)
Anonymous No.719964127
OP is correct, though. The backlash against raytracing is driven entirely by poor brownoids who have shitty PCs.
Anonymous No.719964156
>>719938667 (OP)
Figures a GTAslopper would also be a raytracing apologist.
Anonymous No.719964206
>>719964086
What do you mean saar? Reflections very hard please understand
Anonymous No.719964264
Too hard to focus man. Distracting details that you focus on more than real life because it's a screen. If it's same price... O ok I'll take dat den.
Anonymous No.719964271
>>719938667 (OP)
which one is supposed to be the better one?
Anonymous No.719964334 >>719964440
>>719964030
>It just doesn't.
It just does
Anonymous No.719964338
>>719938667 (OP)
bottom looks unrealistic compared to top
Anonymous No.719964440 >>719964528 >>719964671
>>719964334
good little goy
Anonymous No.719964503
>>719952795
>because even the tinies movement of a single prop would completely shatter the illusion these pre-baked lightnings create
Anonymous No.719964528 >>719964719
>>719964440
I wish we have a special 3rd world /v/ for all the losers in life who can't afford anything
Anonymous No.719964587
Raytracing doesnt make the game more fun so im not shitting out more money for it to look like 10% better in a screenshot. If you feel like cramming in every graphical gimmick there is in UE5 into your game im not buying it.
Anonymous No.719964671
>>719964440
spotted the joo
Anonymous No.719964682
>>719964086
Finally with RT we can have shadows properly implemented
Anonymous No.719964719 >>719964739
>>719964528
You don't have to waste time coping in public. Cost isn't the issue and never was.
Anonymous No.719964739
>>719964719
yes it is. Post HWINFO
Anonymous No.719967515
>>719958303
based