Thread 719948281

Will it ever live up to 3? Or even 5?

>>719948281 (OP)
You can play and decide for yourself. You can find a merged early build

Probably not because I think 3 has garnished a status it does not deserve and therefore it can't be topped because in people's minds it just can't.

Sorry chuddie, but the superior HoMM3 already exists.

>>719948281 (OP)
probably not, the maps already look kinda weird in trailers, like not very cohesive. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the game

>>719948281 (OP)
Fuck no. Developers are slav retards without a taste who made a terrible clone of Darkest Dungeon "what if DD but le edgy teen made it".

>>719949493
hey hey people

>>719948413
depends on if they go back to the lore and worldbuilding or not. No one gave a fuck about Ashan. Bring back Enroth and Antagarich, Jadame can come too I guess.

>>719949649
>depends on if they go back to the lore and worldbuilding or not
man, I have a bridge to sell you if you believe they will. They already made some midwit bullshit race of chtulhu.

Artstyle is deviant art tier too.

>>719949493
devs are tards, nerfed and cut out unintended strats, also still demanding on PC somehow
it's pretty good, but not as much iconic potential

>>719949493
>let's play a turn-based strategy game
>sure, like HoMM or Disciples or Age of Wonders,
>yeah, people especially loved playing through their campaigns, so let's make ours extra short and shitty,
>and let's not even give each race a campaign
>oh, and every human good guy is a woman or a negro, all the white guys are evil

What the fuck were they thinking?

Titan-sama, I can't breathe...

Can I just mention how cool the wiki is? It's a lost art now. It screams sovl.
https://heroes.thelazy.net/index.php/Main_Page

>>719949859
>every human good guy is a woman or a negro, all the white guys are evil
It's fantasy, otherwise it would be too realistic.

Is this worthwhile?
How long does a game last?

>>719948281 (OP)
>Will it ever live up to 3?
No, but nobody ever expected it to.
>Or even 5?
Possible; both of their biggest issues is looking like garbage. As long as Olden Era has decently quick AI turns, I think it has a chance.

Anyway the game seems to be shaping up alright, the devs seem to know what they're doing, and they're working with the community feedback, so there is a chance.

>>719949791
...of course they do. I think the in-game graphics are passable enough.
Honestly now that I'm rewatching the gameplay trailer, I just don't think the gameplay holds up anymore, or will hold up with modern day audiences. Songs of Conquest (hhp) did a good job at fixing old gameplay loops by implementing stack sizes, but still suffers from a 1 bad loss = game over problem.
Honestly I think HoMM would be better served by contracting with creative assembly and making a narrative driven Total War game, and using popularity from that to propel new RPG/blobbers in the same setting.

why are you comparing homm3/5 to some mobile korean style mmo shit

>>719948281 (OP)
Jesus fk no, they added zerg faction with baby Yoda, UI is copypasted from Heroes of the Storm, Schism is another bad joke of the faction that simply don't fit in with one of the heroes doing that weird gooner ahegao face or something (top tier heroes experience), battle system is again copypasted from King's Bounty, why did they do it? Cause fuck you, we made game for ourselves. Did I mention kittenhorn? Yeah. Kittenhorn.
Oh and of course that hideous warcraft rumble tier mobile graphic style.
It's so far the worst heroes entry I've ever seen, at this point I'm convinced that Unfrozen attempts to rage bait people to buy their shitty product.

>>719949859
This game had a very good idea (building different team comps to take advantage of mechanics like mana and synergies), but then they decided that instead of expanding roster of each faction to capitalize on that, they'll just shit out new half-baked factions.

>>719948413
>status it does not deserve
It 100% does deserve it. It's the ultimate turn based strategy experience.

>>719948281 (OP)
Unlikely but not because the game will be bad, but because it won't be exactly as 3.
I think it'll be a perfectly fine game that with 2-3 years of updates would be able to reach a very healthy and finetuned state, but of course autists will still be irked by it not being "enough like 3".

The only chance for it to actually succeed would be if they marketed it on slavic television and/or conventions to appeal to the not-autistic crowd of boomers who used to play it 20 years ago.

>>719950189
>Anyway the game seems to be shaping up alright, the devs seem to know what they're doing, and they're working with the community feedback, so there is a chance.
If banning anyone with constructive critique is *working with the community feedback* then you're right. Is it shaping good? Fuck no, it gets worse with each update or content reveal.

I hope olden era is last nail to M&M coffin, ubisoft has no clue what to do with this franchise so just let it die.

>>719950824
where can i learn more about this outrage

>>719950824
>it gets worse with each update or content reveal
How so? The changes so far were just minor visual touch ups and improved town screens.

>>719950571
They won't change the art style so nope, there is no hope and I wouldn't expect boomers to buy something that looks like MLP spin off.

>>719950063
I miss when websites were websites and not content streaming javascript abominations. I can't even right click on most modern sites to open a link in a new tab, can't even save videos or gifs from twitter, etc.

>>719950936
Yeah you're one of the few autists, I'm ignoring you on purpose because you wouldn't buy it no matter what tehy do.

Mechanically it seems solid enough, there are some new systems like the kingdom laws or the in-combat ability resource that might bring some innovation into the format and the devs seem to understand that a powerful map generator and a decent enough AI are high priorities, the new town screens are also really well made reaching a compromise between functionality of 3 and spectacle of 5
HOWEVER
The Civilziation 7 ripoff UI looks really rough and the new factions (bug inferno and le insane tentacle) are really stretching it when it comes to bad visuals, Inferno really really can't catch a break. On the other hand the new Sylvan is great, but I wish there were classic wizard and barbarians instead of four "evil" factions out of six.
More importantly though I feel that it's not doing enough different to stand on its own and draw a new crowd, maybe some papashkas will come over from HoMM3, maybe they won't, but I don't think it's going to get a strong audience of new players because all the weak aspects of HoMM3 design from 1999 are there and the duel mode is gonna help but not much

>>719948413
Correct. People will evaluate it by how much it copies the game they are nostalgic for. Any move they make to improve upon the game will be hyper-criticized even if it's objectively much better.

>>719950859
Just try express your critique on steam, you'll be immediately jumped by fan sissies allowed to harras whoever they like and if you attempt to defend your point, you get banned.

I haven't been on their discord if they have one but honestly by the look of the heroes in this game I'm pretty sure its another furry & anime porn convent.

>>719950913
Those minor visual changes are said *working with the community feedback*. Changing blood colour of undead unit when its hit and claiming that *look they listen to us* while the game looks like shit, plays like completely different game (not w homm game) and uses assets from other IPs is just another new level of simping.
Each content update only proves that developers have absolutely no clue what HoMM was, everytime they show something you can easily spot and point where their *inspiration* (I prefer to call it theft of intellectual property) came from.

Does the new game have multiple heroes and juggling armies?
4s system of each unit having its own movement speed per turn to avoid juggling was kino.

>>719951742
nigga you sound like autismus maximus yourself

>>719949859
>Disciples
today I must yet again remind myself not to cry

>>719948281 (OP)
In the minds of heroes 3 diehards? Not in a million years.
In reality? Yeah.

>>719951902
Probably the worst part is Disciples of all series is the one that's getting actively raped. This shitty sequel in-name-only is getting a sequel of its own. GODDAMMIT.

>>719951945
Heroes 3 was Age of Empires 2 aka perfection of the formula. Future games could only hope to compare.

>>719950985
>Y-you a-re just one of these mean g-guys, nobody needs you! La la la not listening to you!
>game has 500 concurrent players on release
This is the problem, positively toxic retards are the problem, devs who prefer to live in their bubble out of touch are the problem. I won't buy the game because its not a heroes game. That is all, my money will go elsewhere, like for example Stormbinders, a game based of heroes unlike Olden Era.
Time will tell us how well it will do financially, right sister?

>>719951945
>in reality. : Ubisoft decided to close Unfrozen studio due to poor performance of their game Heroes Might & Magic: Olden Era

>>719952183
>fantasy of the game is that you're leading armies through tactical combat
>actual gameplay: durr AOE spells
yeah real perfection

>>719952214
I'm not the one saying devs are doing everything wrong thoughbeit, like 10 similarly-worded posts.

>>719952183
I wish we got H4 that was meant to be rather than whatever they managed to cobble together as the company was burning up around them.

>>719951742
I meant more like the talks with various modders and pros they had about various balance issues, map templates, map generation, and such.
>Those minor visual changes are said *working with the community feedback*.
Then why do you say they're getting worse with every update? Do you think the previous static town screens were better?
>uses assets from other IPs
Wait, what other IPs? I must have missed that.

>>719952363
homm4 still has some of the best writing of the saga. the extensions were pure shit though.
the combat with collision and heroes on the battlefield was cool.

2 is the better game anyway.

>>719951902
Don't cry because it's over - smile because it happened.
Also, big credit to Philippe Charron, who somehow managed to knock it out of the part with the OST even though that was his first or second ever job.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jgIJgBFocY
And then the madlad then went to make music for Happy Feet vidya and do dialogue editing for fucking Winx Club.

>>719951987
To be fair, M&M franchise also got thoroughly buttfucked by Ubi prior to announcement of Olden Era.

>>719951836
Autistic but why? Because I don't buy cosmic horrors with mobile graphics and anime girls with tentacles, in setting that is not some new IP but has estabilished lore (that is fucked up but not to the point where cthulhu had to arrive).
Toxicly positive, you'd defend this shitshow even if they added Marvel faction with tier 7 unit being supermans

Nigger please, just compare trailers of Olden Era and any other homm title, you can immediately see that they're clueless.
Unfrozen is rage baiting to play their crappy game, that is my official stand.

>>719950465
It isnt even the best strategy game in its own series you retard. Now im not saying its bad because its great but its babys first strategy game. 5 and especially 4 have more depth

Maybe. Looks nice IMO.

>>719948413
Kys

>>719952882
>and especially 4
here's your retarded contrarian award
now fuck off, grown ups are talking

>>719948281 (OP)
The whole story behind this game inspires hope. Also I don't understand why people complain about the graphics, it looks really good
>>719952285
Ubisoft has no connection to the game whatsoever. It was developed by an independent studio and published by a completely different company, not Ubisoft. They essentially only receive a small amount of money for IP. Developers made a prototype, went to Ubisoft and asked to make a game without any obligations.

>>719952848
Kys you havent played single might and magic game so fuck off new fag. Olden era will be shit but not because your nigger reason but because animations and turns will take 10years and it gets boring

>>719952848
>Nigger please, just compare trailers of Olden Era and any other homm title, you can immediately see that they're clueless.
I agree that they're fucking up the marketing and the visual style is dogshit but it's still better and more of a Heroes title than 6 and 7 were
Source: me, playing the prerelease build

>>719952741
>And then the madlad then went to make music for Happy Feet vidya and do dialogue editing for fucking Winx Club.

>>719952362
They're doing literally everything wrong though. The adventure map looks okay, but everything else is once again, a rage bait.
>>719952450
Every. Content. Update. To. The. Fucking. Game.
Everytime they reveal something new its dogshite and *we're listening to players feedback* is... Ughh we changed colour of that... Oh yeah water, a thing that was in every homm game, well we can't do that.
>I meant more like the talks with various modders and pros they had about various balance issues, map templates, map generation, and such
So they waste their time instead of working on their product, brilliant strategy, lets see how it pays off, did they also ask speedrunners what exploits should be added to the game so they can do it faster?
>Wait, what other IPs? I must have missed that.
Take a look at hive which is mix of starcraft/diablo/warhammer, even fucking star troopers. There is an elf unit in dungeon that wears WoW set, in undead city there is a unit highly *inspired* by LoL hero with shovel, I would go on and on.
But let me guess, there is nothing wrong with *inspirations* right?

>>719953330
Unless prerelease build is completely different from what we've got so far released to the public I doubt it. As bad as homm6 & 7 were at least there was a spark of M&M in them unlike in Olden Era where, well, when I saw schism for the first time my first thought was, wow someone was in Ulduar, good for em.

>>719949791
I think in general across all factions that the creatures look like what a 15yo dA artist thinks is cool. They showed what lore in the M&M games they used to justify their cthulhu faction and it checks out. You're free to think it's cringe and gay but remember that we got Conflux instead of Forge because all the homm fans at the time were secondaries who've never played m&m.

>>719953463
you're a 50 year old midwit

>>719953168
Wanna play me fag? I will smoke you in 3 since its so easy. Do you even have 400 rating? I also know you havent played any pvp so shut the fuck up about your shit opinions.

>>719951902
It still blows my mind how gorgeous Disciples 2 looked, especially the portrait art. It was dark fantasy done right. 3 made a valiant effort to translate that aesthetic into 3D, but game sadly had other problems.

>>719953839
>conflux instead of forge
Based, no one wanted that gay shit with space ships and blasters.

>>719948281 (OP)
Yeah probably, the playtest was really fun

>>719954346
Secondary

>>719951902
>>719954254

I play liberation right now and seeing that terrible mobile phone UI, the buttugly fortnite style characters and the TERRIBLE modern writing in my disciples. It hurts

>>719954017
And you are a 30 year old who has to ask his mother for money, I wonder whose projection is closer to reality....

>>719953463
So uhh, where is the general outrage that you mentioned multiple times? Any links?

When you find this kind of vitriolic retards its usually because they are really passionate about the saga but they have been banned from the forums, usually for being autistic retards

>>719954428
Well, homm3 was successful title so secondaries won, go ask Unfrozen to add blasters and aliens to their shitty game to match it with M&M VI lore, I'm sure they're always happy to make things worse.

>>719949493
Last I played magic dominated battles entirely to the point where it felt like how you build your army or taking any other skills didn't really matter

>>719954346
I think it's cooler than whatever the fuck Conflux was.
>pixie
>five elementals
>birds
wow, I'd rather get a reskin of zombies indeed

>>719954254
>3 made a valiant effort to translate that aesthetic into 3D
Nuh, maybe quite a few characters were good but the designs overall were dogshit. Developers even said that they are tried to copy lineage aesthetic instead because thru thought that it's more popular.

>>719953463
You complain about universal fantasy designs, retard. You constantly repeat that the game is doing everything wrong, yet you haven't said what EXACTLY it does wrong, and how it SHOULD be doing it instead. That's because you're a low IQ retard, you literally don't know shit, and you're just mentally incapable of criticism nor constructive suggestions.
C'mon, retard, just point one fucking EXACT thing you don't like, and how it SHOULD be done instead.

>>719953839
I wouldn't go THAT far but it really hurts that you see something like Songs of Silence and realize just how much damage WoW did to fantasy artstyle. That being said, SoS is really not a benchmark for anything else.

>>719954254
I've said this before and I'll say it again, but D2 absolutely wipes the floor with HoMM III (despite it being my GOTYAY) as far as unit design is concerned. I really can't think of any other TBS which felt so comfortable giving their units colorful and opulent armor and garments without making it look cheesy and WoW-like.

>>719949859
Non-existing budgets, that's what. Ubishit famously refuses to give heroes games proper budgets, so they all inevitably end up looking crappy. Proper budgets are reserved for their farcry and asscreed games only..

I haven't followed any of the trailers, so I just watched the faction you fags complain about I don't see an issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd0EyUol-ec
Those designs are in line with what we were getting in HoMM 3-5.

But I am concerned that all units have abilities, and the majority of them doesn't end the turn. Some of them sound very OP. It seems the combat will be all about initiative, if you go first you can use your abilities first and gain massive advantage.

>>719955227
Songs of Silence is beautiful but I can't play it with that idiotic, unreadable font they use. I tried the demo and on release but I refunded it, did they ever do something about it? It's not bad in a vacuum but it's a fucking auto battler so you have to be quick and react to the battlefield while looking cross-eyed at the cards and text. Sure they look great but they are terrible at conveying information

>>719951806
3 babies were ro dumb qnd got mad when you actually had to position yourself and couldnt run from one corner of the map to the other in one turn. Also no gay control spells

>>719954701
>any plebbi links? :)
I'm not sharing my gay kinks with strangers so... I've none, sorry sister.
The mAsSiVE OuTrAgE is as big as screams & shouts of sorry retards who pretend that Olden Era is a saviour of HoMM franchise.
Nobody gives a flying fuck about Olden Era because it looks like another shitty mobile game, but go ahead and try to criticize Olden Era on any social platform moderated by them just remember to come back and tell me how did it go

>>719955771
lol

>>719955771
i like the way it looks
t. homm 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 player

>>719948281 (OP)
there is no secret message

>>719955835
>didn't play original king's bounty
opinion discarded

>>719955956
nta but I played king's bounty last year
really liked it until a difficulty spike made me drop the game
I enjoy hard games but I just couldn't find a way to progress since every enemy left in the map was way stronger than me

>>719955771

So there's no controversy regarding the game's development and you just act like a retarded nigger out of pleasure.

Should've said so from the start.

Homm5 looks good, i don't know why people get all retarded about it

>>719956076
I played king's bounty the legend for like 25 to 30 hours until I got bored because it got really tedious.
Then I played crossworlds or armored princess or whatever the fuck for a few hours, it was the exact same game and i moved on. They were fun enough for a while.

>>719955487
>I tried the demo and on release but I refunded it, did they ever do something about it?
I dunno what font they used on release and if they patched it, but its current build is readable to me. Might just be a personal preference.
>It's not bad in a vacuum but it's a fucking auto battler
It being an auto battler is what really brings it down in my eyes.

>>719956208
It got hit by a WoW-ification ray, but it has aged as well as it could have considering they went full 3D with everything but the UI. Also, the town screens are unsurpassed to this day.

>>719948413
based

>>719955093
>I'm mentally retarded and I can't read
Okay, then bring your parents for this one.
What is wrong.:
1. Battle system taken from King's Bounty (like, was there something wrong with homm?) because developers have to reinvent the wheel just like morons behind HoMM6&7. Fix? Bring fucking HoMM system back.
2. Art style cannot be changed - developers. Nothing to do here mate cartoon network & warcraft Rumble are here to stay.
3. Another studio, again creates new factions nobody asked for (schism & hive) which completely don't fit in HoMM setting. Way to fix it? Bring factions people knew instead of the fuck it is.
The reasons devs gave to justify schism in game only got it worse - *because there are many fans of Lovecraft* that's why they shit on his legacy? What is next? There are star wars fans too, when do we get empire faction?
4. Obvious IP theft, if you can't see it then it's your personal health problem, anyone who played LoL or Blizzard games will immediately find out where the *inspiration* for units came from. How to solve it.... Ughhhh, hire someone creative?
5. Unless whole UI is placeholder, it looks like it was taken from Heroes of the Storm. Do you remember pick your hero screen in HotS (probably not...) ? Now look at unit cards and compare it to that screen same disc, similar background colours. Now take a look at hexagons, the same shit is in HotS. They just took UI from moba and called it a day. Fix? DO YOUR FUCKING JOB ITS FUCKING HEROES NOT HOTS.
6. Heroes. Furries, milfs, anime girls (one of which is doing ahegao) & baby Yoda. Fix? Fire whoever made portraits and hire someone who's not sex pest from /h/.

I could go on and on... but I don't want to overburden your parents, they've you after all to take care of.

>>719955835
>I like anything that plays on my pc
Congrats remember to buy 10 copies of Olden Era, they might need the money.

>>719956181
>where are my e-celebs telling me what to think, please plebbit links
Shouldn't you be 18+ to be here?

Anyway development must be going flawlessly, they postponed this game from Q2 of 2025 to *we don't know what the fuck are we doing* after all.

>>719957545
>1. Battle system taken from King's Bounty
And King's Bounty battle system is taken from HoMM, imbecile. What the fuck are you retard complaining about? Unit abilities? That shit existed since HoMM 4. Even HoMM 3 had it with Archangel's resurrect, Djinni's buffs, etc.
You're once again showing your 0 IQ. You lack any mental capability to explain what exactly you don't like."bwaah, it's not how the old game". How EXACTLY it's not like the old game? Same stats, same grid, same turn order, same hero cast as in all HoMM games.

I'm not going to respond to other points because they are even stupider. You're just a braindead retard and a massive sperg. Just kill yourself.

Why they keep fucking up inferno? Is it some kind of the law or maybe depiction of devil is prohibited for muslim developers?

>>719956208
No it doesn't, it looks like jaggy crap. I hatee it then, and i hate it now.

>>719950195
>I just don't think the gameplay holds up anymore, or will hold up with modern day audiences.
Who fucking cares?
>Songs of Conquest did a good job at fixing old gameplay loops
Oh so you're just a retarded zoomer who never liked HoMM to begin with, gotcha.

>>719958475
I'm surprised Necropolis is still in the game. China will not like this.

>>719955472
Initiative was incredibly important for that same reason in HoMM 3-5 too.

I remember some years ago me and the bros were having a HoMM3 lan just like we used to do when we were young. Around half way through the game we all collectively went "man this game is really fucking boring isn't it?" "Yeah let's do something else" So we started playing Smash Bros Brawl on a modded Wii instead.

I don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy these games the same way again.

>>719959424
And then you woke up, realizing you don't actually have any friends and instead spend all day jacking off into your own mouth to Bowser foot fetish porn.

>>719951398
I don't think that's true. If you take the homm 3 formula and add:
The caravan system for neutral dwellings.
Mills automatically provide resources instead of needing a busy work hero.
Unit initiative instead of basing turn priority off speed.
Give units the map movement points not the heroes so you can't convoy recruits across the map.
Enlarge the battlefield so mass haste can't carry your army to the enemy in one turn.
Clearly highlight where the half damage distance on ranged units begins.
Give fire spells their own transportation spell to match waterwalk, fly, and town portal.
I'm being greedy here but if they also include the heroes 5 alternate upgrades then you've got a game which is vastly superior to homm 3.

>>719959538
No I had friends (emphasis on had)

>>719951987
I actually thought this was a fairly entertaining King's Bounty clone. Much, MUCH better than King's Bounty 2.

I think it looks great but I also place Disciples 2 and AoW2 above HoMM3 so I don't really have that blinding nostalgia most people suffer from. Will buy it and enjoy it.

>>719948413
This, nostalgiafags will never accept anything new.

>>719958145
>can't see a difference between franchises
So.. In case of blizzard
starcraft = warcraft
Diablo = WoW
There are no gameplay differences between these franchises right?
And that spawn dares to call someone dumb, jesus I'm really sorry for whoever is forced to feed you.
>some units in previous games had abilities, that is why in Olden Era it's okay for all units to have at least one!
Oh... right... that is also retarded game design, lets make a slop where everything has bazillion different meaningless abilities! THE WHEEL MUST BE REINVENTED. Oh nevermind some spells cast by schism units are completely broken but devs have no clue what they're doing therefore postponed indefinetely.
>what exactly you don't like
It doesn't matter what I like and I've literally listed all the biggest issues with this crappy game seen by many, not just me.
>lost an argument and run away
Was fun, GG, BB. Without moderation it's not as fun as within you echo chamber, right comrade?
>>719958475
Because developers of Olden Era, just like devs of HoMM6&7 know better, you're just here to pay for their product.

>>719950063
I wish there was version of it for rest of series

>>719959794
>THE WHEEL MUST BE REINVENTED
considering the dwindling popularity of homm, yes.

>>719959258
Nobody in china cares about HoMM just like japs didn't care about kappas.
>>719959752
Stormbinders looks good, well for sure better than Olden Era.

>>719957545
>2. Art style cannot be changed - developers. Nothing to do here mate cartoon network & warcraft Rumble are here to stay.
The world map looks good which is the main factor.

>3. Another studio, again creates new factions nobody asked for (schism & hive) which completely don't fit in HoMM setting. Way to fix it? Bring factions people knew instead of the fuck it is.
Again, you're a fucking secondary

>4. Obvious IP theft, if you can't see it then it's your personal health problem, anyone who played LoL or Blizzard games will immediately find out where the *inspiration* for units came from. How to solve it.... Ughhhh, hire someone creative?

Retard

>5. Unless whole UI is placeholder, it looks like it was taken from Heroes of the Storm.

The UI is fine, it's a sight better than ubislop white diamonds and android play store stock asset bullshit you get in almost every game

>6. Heroes. Furries, milfs, anime girls (one of which is doing ahegao) & baby Yoda. Fix? Fire whoever made portraits and hire someone who's not sex pest from /h/.

Pic related lmfao

>>719953839
>>719954346
Conflux was always planned. They just rushed it to replace scrapped Forge, this is reason why this faction is so unbalanced

>>719960106
>Stormbinders looks good, well for sure better than Olden Era.
you've got shit in your eyes.
it looks fine, but it's obvious they have a smaller budget than olden era, don't get me started on the dogshit visuals of song of conquest.

>>719959794
Schizo, I asked you a simple question. What exactly is fucking different. You still can't answer it. Bazillion different abilities already existed since HoMM 4. Fuck, some units there were full casters with 4+ abilities.
You wrote a massive post, and you still hasn't answered it. Just one simple question.

>>719949493
Solid game visually and I dig it's take on town building, but the magic system sucks ass. Magic requiring no resource (other than what you get freely in every battle) is a stupid idea, makes it so you don't actually have to manage using spells but can just spam the same strongest spell rotation in every battle

Also, so many of the unit choices are stupid. Shit like fighting with an army of hundreds of bagpipe users is not a compelling fantasy

>>719949791
LMAO YOU FUCKING SECONDARY. You retards really thought Might and Magic wouldn't touch Lovecraft when they were okay making it "erm, actually it's sci-fi"?

>>719948281 (OP)
They should make it more like IV, the TRVE GOAT of HOMM

>>719960039
It was killed by 6&7 (both games tried to reinvent the wheel), and unfrozen is repeating this mistake
*it is our game, its about us, for us we must leave our Mark in homm franchise*. At least they're not forcing fans to pick between 2 main factions... Unfrozen instead replaced them with trash.

>>719949791
Horns of Abyss introduced Chtulhu inspired monsters and spamming them is function of titular artifact

>>719960494
it was killed because kids these days don't want to manage dozens of heroes and towns every turn, that shit is tiring as fuck to play for more than 5 minutes. it's why homm6 tried to simplify shit - it still failed.

>>719960570
>fan fiction expansion

>>719955472
Units having unique abilities is good, everyone remembers harpies' strike and return. No one remembers Dwarfs and their %20 chance to resist magic.

>>719949791
Which Warcraft 3 clone is this from again?

>>719960651
Proof that fans wants that

>>719959713
>King's Bounty 2
hold up. what?
>it's real
WHAT THE FUCK?

>>719959603
You've described IV.

>>719960332
The difference is in pacing, encounter design, and overall mechanical bloat. In HoMM 4, unit abilities were part of a system with actual constraints-limited stacks, heroes on the battlefield, risk-reward built into spellcasting and positioning. Olden Era just throws effects everywhere like it’s an ARPG on autoplay. Everything explodes, burns, taunts, passively stuns or whatever the hell, but there's no tactical weight to any of it because you’re swimming in particles and cooldowns.

Schism units break core systems. You know that. Hive doesn’t even feel like it belongs in the same universe. And yeah, spell bloat existed before, but it was contextually balanced-now it’s just noise with no design clarity. So yeah, “bazillion different abilities” in HoMM 4 != whatever soulless blender Olden Era’s serving. Hope that clears it up for you.

>>719960651
https://www.gog.com/en/game/heroes_of_might_and_magic_iii_horn_of_the_abyss
GOG says it's official. Cry back to /vst/.

>>719961182
let olden era go wild, fuck balance, most people play it as a single player game.

>>719961182
>pacing
>encounter design
>overall mechanical bloat
It's a turn based game with turn-based combat. What fucking pacing?
What the fuck is encounter design?
There are no new battle mechanics, just with more abilities compared to HoMM3, but similar to HoMM 4.
You're just throwing random words like a chatgpt bot.

>>719960916
Oh there's a King's Bounty 2? Since when?

>>719954882
>to match it with M&M VI lore
Every Might and Magic game is sci-fi under the hood. Every single one. He was wrong to call you a secondary, you're just a retarded faggot.

>>719956076
He said "original". Probably just a shitpost but what you played is also just fan fiction.

>>719954430
I played it, because I spoiled myself on who's daughter the protag was and I wanted to know more.
I suffered through the shitty obvious meant-to-be-on-mobile game, only to be disappointed on how they butchered even the simplest lore. Why am I even surprised.

>>719958145
>King's Bounty battle system is taken from HoMM
Wrong. Nu KB introduced partial movement, has lots of position manipulation abilities and just lots of abilities in general. It plays very differently. I wouldn't say it's worse but it doesn't have combat like HoMM.
>Even HoMM 3 had it with Archangel's resurrect, Djinni's buffs, etc.
In nu KB it works differently. Stacks often can use an ability and act otherwise or at least move. Many if not most are endlessly spammable on cooldowns. There's also the hero spell to recharge limited use ones too. It's a very different game if you actually play both enough to know them well.

>>719961425
>GOG says
LMAO. Only games by NWC are official.

>>719962573
>NWC
Oh, you mean Greg Fulton and his team? The same people that gave their blessing to HotA and DoR? That's another strike for you, buddy.

>>719961604
It's actually Ascension on the throne 2 in disguise of KB2.

>>719962974
No, I mean NWC. Not limited to just Fulton "and his team" whatever that means.

>>719948281 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TSSJIqaMKk
the best HoMM

>>719963334
>mobile auto battler

>>719963630
It could have been worse honestly.

>>719963283
Ah, of course you're retarded.

>>719949493
looks shit as a design CHOICE, blacks. Nah man

>>719963771
This is worse.

>>719963942
>pixel art
>can't zoom in
>can't tell units from each other
>everything is a blurry mess
idk why people keep forcing this retro shit.

>>719962259
>partial movement, has lots of position manipulation abilities
Right, and Olden Era doesn't have it, so it seems they are completely different. No idea what that faggot meant that OE copied KB.

>>719949493
Controls are utter dogshit, to minmax you need to lookup codex before every move every turn, you have to snowball disgustingly fast otherwise you can't beat hard AI, and need to quick save every 10 seconds before you missclick your movement on the map which happens every other turn. Also no tutorial on movement strategy as a resource. You solve every game as soon as you build an army that abuses magic. Fuck this games and their retarded lgbt devs
>t. played for 150h

>>719951902
>>719954254
Despite really liking strategy games I've never heard of Disciples until now, which one should I play?

>>719965582
The original has very low resolution that does not survive upscaling that well. Its art style is different and good in its own way. The story is somewhat retold in the sequel and the gameplay is similar enough.
The third game was plagued by lots of bugs and very poor design choices and only the former could have been patched. It plays very differently to the games made by the original developer (yet another case of the new "rights owners" completely missing the point). It also looks like a brownish bland blur instead of a gothic gallery. It also only has 3 factions out of the 5 the last expansion to D2 has.

>>719965582
D2 is where it's at.

>>719965582
When people mention Disciples, they alway mean Disciples 2 and its expansions.

>>719965972
come on, son. you forgetting liberation and upcoming domination.

>>719966048
>>719966053
first game is fine, but basically every aspect was refined in the sequel. third game was somewhat redeemed by reincarnation re-release, but it's still not as good.

>>719966172
No, I'm omitting anything that is even less of a Disciples game than 3.

>>719960405
>"erm, actually it's sci-fi"?
as was the style at the time

>check the new castle units
>no more peasants for basic fodder unit
welp, there goes my tax base

>>719966172
>>719966437
Dislib is a decent game but is abysmal dogshit as part of the Disciples series.

I think the most insane thing is that the Russian guy is still making patches for HoMM3, over 25 years later. God bless him, and I hope he doesn't die in Ukraine.

>>719949859

The human female lord is so annoying. They made her try so hard to be some kind of badass.

>>719948413
This is the unfortunate truth. Nostalgiawankers will never accept any game that is not a 1:1 copy of HOMM3 because in their heads it is so perfect it cannot be improved upon (even though HOTA made fairly massive changes compared to the original game).

>>719964770
This. It's gross how this game skyrockets every upgrade to the point where if you don't perfectly match or exceed the enemy's progress - you might as well not bother, because his units are 2-3 times more powerful than yours and you're just fucked.

>>719948281 (OP)
probably not

>>719952363
4 is still my favorite one, it's the most fun to play

Didn't read the thread. Just dropping by to remind you Naga Queen is best girl. Have a good day.