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Anonymous No.719964337 >>719964817 >>719964874 >>719965196 >>719965265 >>719965272 >>719965357 >>719965450 >>719965471 >>719965562 >>719965834 >>719966096 >>719966115 >>719966161 >>719966194 >>719966206 >>719966253 >>719966264 >>719966318 >>719966568 >>719966814 >>719966834 >>719966931 >>719967071 >>719967376 >>719967590 >>719967938 >>719968282 >>719969098 >>719970228 >>719971039
Nintendo doesn't need new IPs
Anonymous No.719964774
autism doesnt like change
Anonymous No.719964783
yeah theyve been like this for 20 years now
Anonymous No.719964817
>>719964337 (OP)
They have a lot already.
Anonymous No.719964834 >>719965862 >>719965902
Nintendo has worked like this since the start
They make the game mechanics first then they put a character over it whoever fits best
Anonymous No.719964874 >>719967372
>>719964337 (OP)
They don't need new IP because they're not even using half of the ones they own
Anonymous No.719965196
>>719964337 (OP)
This is fair in a vacuum but when you look at the reality, they've spent a very long time NOT creating new ways to play.
Nintendo doesn't make "a new game, with Mario", they make "a new Mario game, with an elephant"
Anonymous No.719965265 >>719965425 >>719965554 >>719965658 >>719965793 >>719965871 >>719966292 >>719966465 >>719966678 >>719967273 >>719967402 >>719967487 >>719968921 >>719969350
>>719964337 (OP)
I'm okay with it. They haven't made a good new IP since the Gamecube.
>Wii/Mii series
>Steel Diver
>Arms
>Splatoon
All soulless, ugly, trash. Before that you had Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, etc. The difference is night and day. Whatever mix of ingredients was allowing Nintendo to create endearing IPs ran out long ago. Every new one they've made for the past 20 years has been awful.
Anonymous No.719965272 >>719966354
>>719964337 (OP)
thats why they made drag x drive where there is no ip
Anonymous No.719965351
I hope we see a new one soon, I wanna see a new big franchise like splatoon. I’m wondering if that nso playtest could be a taste of that.
Anonymous No.719965357
>>719964337 (OP)
I'd rather they make new IP than change everything people like about old franchises, if I wanted to play something that plays differently I'd play a different franchise.
Anonymous No.719965425 >>719966898
>>719965265
steel diver pvp was fucking kino you nigger
Anonymous No.719965450
>>719964337 (OP)
that's correct, they have several IPs on their repertoire, if they fish for a new one would be nice but they don't need.
Anonymous No.719965471
>>719964337 (OP)
They do. Every new entry in every long running series is exactly the same as the last and they are all stale. There are 2 exceptions, mario and Zelda yet everyone acts like every other IP behaves that way.
Anonymous No.719965554 >>719966898
>>719965265
>>Wii/Mii series
>>Steel Diver
>>Arms
>>Splatoon
You are a fucking nigger, so shut the fuck up.
Anonymous No.719965562
>>719964337 (OP)
Nintendo makes new IPs all the time.
They just are not that successful.
Anonymous No.719965639 >>719965717 >>719965805 >>719965967 >>719966080 >>719969043
Was arms any good, I heard it sold well but there hasn’t been a sequel
Anonymous No.719965658 >>719966898
>>719965265
>hating on Arms and Splatoon
man fuck you nigger
Anonymous No.719965717
>>719965639
It was just fine
Anonymous No.719965793 >>719966898
>>719965265
Splatoon is one of the only Nintendo series I like
Nigger
Anonymous No.719965805
>>719965639
It wasn’t a flop but it was certainly below what nintendo seemed to expect given they wanted it to be the next splatoon. Unfortunately it was done by the mario kart guys so there’s virtually no chance of a sequel. Could really use one to polish up and refine it
Anonymous No.719965834 >>719965868 >>719967475 >>719970202
>>719964337 (OP)
as long as they keep making more Xenoblade and more Fire Emblem I don't give a fuck about new IPs
I doubt any new IP would be an RPG anyway
Anonymous No.719965862 >>719965939 >>719966109 >>719966398 >>719967757
>>719964834
>They make the game mechanics first then they put a character over it whoever fits best

So why didn't they put Wario in this game?
Anonymous No.719965868
>>719965834
Based
I need my FE fix
Anonymous No.719965871
>>719965265
Imagine being this much of a tasteless faggot holy shit
Anonymous No.719965902
>>719964834
I was going to say this. Didn't they mentioned it back in the wii era? That they make the gameplay idea first and then check which character it would fit better.
Anonymous No.719965939
>>719965862
Should had probably said whoever they think fits best for marketing/sales purposes
Anonymous No.719965967
>>719965639
its fun, but theres not much there to expand on really, it was basically a souped up version of wii boxing anyway
Anonymous No.719966080
>>719965639
It was ok. The gameplay didn't really hit for me. Could've used more singleplayer content too I think. However the designs are great so I wish they gave it another chance
Anonymous No.719966096
>>719964337 (OP)
nintendo doesnt need to do anything except put a bing bing wahoo on some slop and all the manchildren will buy it. and thats exactly what they continue to do.
Anonymous No.719966109
>>719965862
According to Miyamoto, DK's strong arms are his defining characteristic. This is why he slams the ground real hard in DKC Rrturns and Tropical Freeze, and why he had themed bongos. Digging through things seems like a logical extention of that, especially since they were already experimenting with that stuff already.
Anonymous No.719966115
>>719964337 (OP)
Borananza is already forgotten lmao
Anonymous No.719966161 >>719966204 >>719966384
>>719964337 (OP)
It's a Japanese excuse I see pop up a lot. They usually try and say something like "But it's always been like that" "It's tradition" "It doesn't need it"
All excuses to remain lazy and do as little as possible. They used to be a country that pushed technology and ideas, but they've stagnated immensely and you always see those "please understand" excuses for being lazy.
Anonymous No.719966194
>>719964337 (OP)
>"we don't need to make new IPs because we have enough skinsuits for our products"
>says established brand with good reputation and high sales
Shocked.
Anonymous No.719966196
ah yes the new way to play: the same system as before but with a credit card button
Anonymous No.719966204 >>719966468
>>719966161
who cars about lazy when you are raking in the bucks? why change it?
Anonymous No.719966206
>>719964337 (OP)
New IPs are a meme. Better to focus on actually making games for your existing portfolio.
Anonymous No.719966253
>>719964337 (OP)

somehow our mighty class of harvard MBA feminists didn't understand this
Anonymous No.719966264
>>719964337 (OP)
to be fair this is more so because the mario series and its derivatives features an ensemble cast in a similar vein to the likes of comic strips and early cartoons (considering the popeye inspiration)
it's this approach to design that lets you just slot them into anything without it feeling weird, which is unusual in the video game space because characters in video games tend to be designed more to reflect elements of specific gameplay or narratives, whereas these characters are very simplistic and can therefore be plausibly slotted into almost any scenario with an appropriate coat of paint
like why bother making "john golfer" for your golf game when you can essentially do the equivalent of adding the looney tunes
Anonymous No.719966292
>>719965265
Based. Splatoon is ugly as fuck and only trannies like it.
Anonymous No.719966318
>>719964337 (OP)
Absolutely based.

Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything else.
Anonymous No.719966354
>>719965272
unironically yeah. some devs made a concept and the higher ups were like "this sucks, lets not attach any of our characters to it".
Anonymous No.719966384 >>719966560 >>719966689
>>719966161
Nintendo ignores the majority of their IP's because they are adamant that they "need to do something new" to justify using it again so I don't know what you're talking about.
Anonymous No.719966398 >>719970254
>>719965862
Wario would have no qualms carrying a loli if it meant him getting more gold too.

You also lose the main intrigue of what's the deal with young Pauline,but I think ultimately wario would have worked better
Anonymous No.719966427
Nintendo can afford to do that.
Anonymous No.719966465 >>719966898
>>719965265
I don't even play splatoon but those games are like the only new Nintendo games with soul
Anonymous No.719966468 >>719966912
>>719966204
That's part of what I was saying. "Why change it?", because you're just stagnating sitting on your ass and never evolving or pushing anything. There's no creativity or excitement or anything. It's just the same shit repackaged with the lower possible effort while putting up some bullshit catchphrase/excuse.
Anonymous No.719966560 >>719966664
>>719966384
The whole point of this thread is that they don't push for anything new, that's what we're all talking about, so I don't know what you're on about.
I was talking about a general (there are always exceptions) mentality I see in Japan that stagnates them.
Anonymous No.719966568
>>719964337 (OP)
Nintendo sees its characters as actors. They are not inherently beholden to being played One Way, so they can get a hell of a lot of mileage out of recognised faces without getting stale.
Anonymous No.719966664
>>719966560
If you read the OP you'd see that Nintendo is focused on "new ways to play", which is the exact opposite of whatever you're on about.
Anonymous No.719966678
>>719965265
>no one remembers the ugly american x-com game
Anonymous No.719966689 >>719966894
>>719966384
that's really not true at all. that's just something miyamoto said one time about F-Zero. the real truth is, nintendo has lead game directors, and those guys get ideas for games they want to make and they make it. If an IP doesn't appeal to one of nintendo's directors enough for them to write a proposal for it, it just gets left by the wayside.
Anonymous No.719966814
>>719964337 (OP)
It sucks that Nintendo only ships out the same slop these days
Anonymous No.719966834
>>719964337 (OP)
I’d say everyone knew this about Nintendo by the time of GameCube, but I forget this website is now 90% brown third world era who weren’t even alive then.
Anonymous No.719966894 >>719969332
>>719966689
How is that any different?
If they get an idea for a game and it doesn't fit with any existing IP then they don't use it. By that measure, if they came up with an idea that did fit in with a previous IP, would they not consider using it?
Anonymous No.719966898 >>719966979 >>719967098
>>719965425
>>719965554
>>719965658
>>719965793
>>719966465
>t.
Anonymous No.719966912
>>719966468
Theyll change it when it stops selling
Anonymous No.719966931 >>719967348
>>719964337 (OP)
This retarded way of thinking is why Zelda is a lego gmod simulator now
Anonymous No.719966935
Roblox
Anonymous No.719966979
>>719966898
Anonymous No.719966984 >>719967921 >>719969370
The company doesn't make a lot of new IP because they've already done all that intellectual leg-work and they have an IP available and ready if they want to explore an idea. Metroid for sci-fi and more "serious" run n' gun games, Mario for pretty much anything that doesn't get too serious in presentation as their Mickey Mouse or Popeye, F-Zero for more serious racing games (this also has the double-edged problem that F-Zero GX was perfection, something they say themselves), Fire Emblem and softly owning Xenoblade for more serious RPGs and softly owning Bayonetta (SEGA does nothing with it) for character-action games. This is also why when they have an idea that doesn't necessarily fit any of the existing IPs, THEN they make a new one. Arms, 1-2-Switch even if this feasibly could have been a Warioware or Mario Party title, Splatoon.
Anonymous No.719967071
>>719964337 (OP)
Welp, they're absolutely right.
What kind of retard would think otherwise ?
Anonymous No.719967098
>>719966898
>Star Fox out of nowhere
Anonymous No.719967186 >>719967417
drag x drive bros...?
Anonymous No.719967273 >>719967412
>>719965265
>Arms
oh yeah that one... I remember the push for it
JUDGE No.719967348
>>719966931
I guarantee they don't use this system on Zelda, lmao.
Anonymous No.719967372 >>719967434 >>719969953 >>719970030
>>719964874
bet you cant wait for the balloon fight reboot. Perhaps an ice climbers open world game ur expecting?
Anonymous No.719967376 >>719967895
>>719964337 (OP)
Tears of the Kingdom building shit should have been a new IP. It was completely at odds with the rest of the typical Zelda stuff and lost its appeal like 3 hours in. If it was just a game about building machines out of scrap to help people complete tasks it probably would have been pretty good. At least make it a fucking Chibi Robo game or something.
Anonymous No.719967402 >>719970140
>>719965265
Xenoblade literally was made in 2010
Anonymous No.719967412
>>719967273
carlos...
Anonymous No.719967417
>>719967186
All four of them have their hands on your shoulder in silent suffering
JUDGE No.719967434 >>719968023
>>719967372
>balloon fight reboot
Imagine the online play. I'm screaming.
Anonymous No.719967475
>>719965834
Based as fuck. All I care about is new Monolith Soft RPGs whether that's a new IP or Xenoblade.

It's why I buy Nintendo consoles.

Couldn't give a fuck if they don't make a new gay little mascot IP.
Anonymous No.719967487
>>719965265
>Splatoon
Yeah, you have no clue what you're talking about....
Anonymous No.719967590
>>719964337 (OP)
>Mario but soccer
>Mario but golf
>Mario but xcom
bro, Mario IS the wrapper
Anonymous No.719967629
I FUCKING LOVE MONOLITH SOFT
Anonymous No.719967752 >>719968057
>2010s
>Nintendo only makes rehashes in its core IPs
>everyone considers them a lazy soulless sellout dev for kids and casuals

>2020s
>Nintendo only makes rehashes in its core IPs
>everyone considers them the peak of quality core gaming innovative experiences

Why does the march of time only ever lead us into dark times
Anonymous No.719967757
>>719965862
Wario Land is too much soul for modern Nintendo to handle
Anonymous No.719967895
They have enough IP's rotting in limbo, so I'm fine with this.

Honestly, development costs are why they can't make new IP's as much as they used to. You won't get a Wario Land or a DKC nowadays and you can't really experiment with smaller titles now, even those are costly to make.

>>719967376
This too, on that note, could Splatoon be made today? That's a recent example of a new IP from Nintendo that succeeded.
Anonymous No.719967921
The only reason people bitch about "muh Mario, Kirby, Zelda" overstauration is because Nintendo is like a top 3 publisher of games, and half of those published titles are either made in house or with their supervision

They also have plenty of smaller IPs that get revived every so often, it's just that not all of them fit every era

Stuff like Tomodachi, Rythm heaven and the like

They also have a ton of even smaller IPs that don't fully take off or are having dev issues and are therefore relegated to even sparser releases

But NDS niggers fail to acknowledge that

Just the switch era had

Sushido, Astral Chain, Arms, 1/2 switch

Disingenuous niggers will ignore Nintendo fucking annoucned a new Rythm Heaven and fucking revived Famicom detective because it doesn't fit their "muh Mario" bullshit

>>719966984
Correction, they don't soft own Xeno, they fully own it by now

And yes, they feel GX was such a monumentally well made game they felt incapable of ever topping it, that's why they shopped around during the Wii and Wii U eras and no one wanted to work on it which is why it's been on ice for a while

Nintendo is as greedy as any other company, they just aren't filthy monkey retards that would devalue their brand oflr fuck over their customers for a quick buck

They literally asked Sakurai to make a Kirby Air Ride sequel, that's a decent risk because the last game's sample size was the Gamecube's tiny 22 million players

Yet they know that by investing in smaller exclusive games, their ecosystem looks ever more desirable for undecided buyers
Anonymous No.719967938 >>719968136
>>719964337 (OP)
He's right Pokémon alone can carry them for 50 more years
Anonymous No.719968023
>>719967434
ngl I can see an HD nes collection with onlineplay where its just those hd overlays people have been making but officially© licensed® by Nintendo™
Anonymous No.719968057 >>719968092 >>719968358
>>719967752
You do not know what rehash mean
Anonymous No.719968092 >>719968125
>>719968057
t. wii baby
Anonymous No.719968125 >>719968248
>>719968092
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.719968136 >>719968507
>>719967938
pokemon didn't save the wii u however
Anonymous No.719968248
>>719968125
So you admit it, nice
Anonymous No.719968282
>>719964337 (OP)
ESLs might not notice it EOLs giggle everytime they read the word IP.

It's literally "I Pee". Think about it if it was you and you had to read or say that phrase in your own language sometimes.
Anonymous No.719968358 >>719968424
>>719968057
Don't you know?
Mario golf and tennis are the exact same thing as Luigi's Mansion because Luigi is in both

These niggas have existed a long time, and have been validated by the gaming media at large suffering from Nintendo Derangement Syndrome

That's why since the wii u era, Mario 3d world and Odyssey are rehashes but 3 spiderman games with the same map are new, amazing videogame experiences
Anonymous No.719968424 >>719968959
>>719968358
This anon only had a Wii growing up
Anonymous No.719968507 >>719968907
>>719968136
To be fair, wii U got Half of Pokken and Rumble U, cute games, but no real deal

Speaking of, where's Pokken 2 faggots
Anonymous No.719968907 >>719969017 >>719969319
>>719968507
the pokemon company is allergic to good ideas im afraid :(
like how game freak are splitting their dev teams between pokemon legends, gen 10, and that new realistic souls-like clone everyone is asking for
Anonymous No.719968921
>>719965265
>Splatoon
oh yeah that one... I remember the push for it
Anonymous No.719968959
>>719968424
Bait but I'll bite

Ps1 and PS2 actually, however it's a fucking disgrace how few games the other non nintendo platform holders bother releasing

Nintendo always encourages their partners to do different shit and of course, they also do differnet shit themselves

Three Houses and Engage are fairly different, Kirby forgotten land and Star Allies too

And i'd like to hear about other devs just fucking bringing back franchises like Another Code or Famicom Detective whiich are the furthest shit from system sellers
Anonymous No.719969017 >>719969298
>>719968907
why bother making actual spin-offs when mobileshit gains more profit? that detective pikachu game on switch flopping immensely probably turned them off the idea of full fledged spin-offs forever
Anonymous No.719969043
>>719965639
it sold well for a new fighting game IP. Nintendo aren't going to be greenlighing any sequels though, especially when the developers were the mario kart team
Anonymous No.719969098
>>719964337 (OP)
>New Ips
-Guy they threw together when they couldn't make a popey fangame right away
-Peter Pan design that they just kept using
-ALIENS fangame that they just kept using.
-Saint Seiya fangame they stopped using when the show ended and brought back once for nostalgia

Nintendo doesn't need new IPs, they need to copy more stuff they like and run with it unapologetically.
Anonymous No.719969112
Bring back starfy
Anonymous No.719969298 >>719969632
>>719969017
genuinely what were they thinking with detective pikachu? why was that the one thing to make pokemon make a live action film after all these years.
they pushed it so hard, was it some executives pet project?
Anonymous No.719969319
>>719968907
I hate those niggers like you wouldn't believe

Nintendo's hands off policy with partners is mostly great but Game Freak as IP holders show why that's a bad thing, too

I'd have whipped those fucks into shape; Pokken is perfect to throw secondary pokefans and fans of fighting games a big bone and it bolsters their Pokemon Championships

If they had followed a consistent release, Pokken 2 would just be finishing up by now, aand getting everybody hype for a Pokken 3 for Switch 2

But those nigers at GF hate every game that makes their shit look bad and don't give the go ahead for console spinoffs anymore (even the few switch spinoffs were due to the huge internal pressure they were facing since they were refusing to jump in)
Anonymous No.719969332 >>719969625
>>719966894
it's a difference of having a queue of IPs and going "now is the time for an F-Zero game, because we haven't had one" and "Bob the kirby guy wants to make another kirby game, even though he just finished making one, should we stop him? no? why would we do that?" it doesn't matter if there's a "new idea", it just matters that there's someone willing to make the game who has the authority to do so.
Anonymous No.719969350
>>719965265
Based. Splatoon was forced as fuck just because Wii U tendies have nothing else to play.
Anonymous No.719969370 >>719970041
>>719966984
>arms needed to be a new ip
did it though? they turned mario into a sphere for mario pinball, surely it wouldn't be that unprecedented to be like "wow the mushroom kingdom has a new sport and it's boxing with springs" or something
Anonymous No.719969625
>>719969332
Basically this

Famously the guys at Retro wanted to work on DK instead of more metroid and what did Ninty do?

Get the next metroid games into other hands (Other M, Samus Returns, Dread, Bamco with Prime 4) and let them work on DK

Nintendo rarely fucks around with releases or forces shit, if a team wants to, they are allowed to pitch new shit all the time
Anonymous No.719969632 >>719970024
>>719969298
I have no idea, it was very strange. That movie came out a full year after the game, and then the sequel to said game came 5(?) years after the movie long after any relevance. The movie itself was supposed to ge a sequel too according to leaks. The whole project is a fuckin mess
Anonymous No.719969953
>>719967372
Considering Nintendo is turning all their games into open world shit, I could see it happen
Anonymous No.719970024 >>719970180
>>719969632
the movie wasnt even leaked, they announced the sequel before the original had even released, but its been in development hell with even the actors saying that its not gonna happen while legendary keeps saying its in active development.
Anonymous No.719970030
>>719967372
I remember imagining an ice climbers survival game where you have to explore the mountain to find resources like food and wood so you don't freeze to death. no idea if that concept would actually work for a game.
Anonymous No.719970041
>>719969370
Depends on how hard they can also stretch Mario's premise in the attempt, note that the "wilder" stuff in Mario's modern repertoire is almost always a crossover, giving Mario a laser gun necessitates Rabbids and shit like that
Anonymous No.719970140
>>719967402
Doesn't count.
Anonymous No.719970180 >>719970930
>>719970024
I'd be very surprised if it still happens. Didn't the Sonic movies perform better?
Anonymous No.719970202
>>719965834
Ring Fit Adventure was an RPG
Anonymous No.719970228
>>719964337 (OP)
Nintendo is already sleeping on dozens of inactive IPs they can pull out whenever the board is bored.
Anonymous No.719970254
>>719966398
You can have had him carry around a young Captain Syrup. Or even better, Ashley.
Anonymous No.719970930
>>719970180
I mean Pokemon has a movie almost every 1-2 years and Detective Pikachu is just one of them.
Anonymous No.719971039
>>719964337 (OP)
Since nintendo has 0 interesting story in their games this is true. It doesn't really matter who the character is.