Thread 720045883

V was better.

>>720045883 (OP)
No shit

>>720045883 (OP)
no, shit

Which remake was more unnecessary, this one or RE4?

>>720045938
re4 by a mile

No shit please.

Not as good as the original but this is a peak cope. V is a dogshit empty-world game. It stands as a member of the trio of shit that is 4, PW, and V

No shit?

>>720045938
this by far

>>720045883 (OP)
TRVKE

>>720045883 (OP)
V is the worst game in the series though
not sure how you go backwards from a psp title

>>720045938
probably RE4. it's nice having mgs3 natively on PC

>>720046260
>Master Collection Vol. 1

>>720045883 (OP)
V is so incomplete that it's hard to go back in. Also, the twist is stupid. The story is complete idiocy.
MGS1 and 2 are the only good ones, sadly. Used to be my favorite series. Idk why. I got swept up in this feeling of potential, but now that the games are cemented in history, it's pretty obvious that Kojima has no business writing and presenting a story as he sees fit. MGS2 is borderline. 1 is great bc of the limitations. Rising is good too.
1 and 2 look fine on their hardware and don't need a remake. Maybe modern controls would be nice, but who cares. The memories are better than the replay experience.
I forgot how stupid and repetitive the dialogue is in 3. It's constant questions and Wikipedia level exposition aimed at people with a 13-year old's level of geopolitical awareness.

>>720046012
3 is cringe with characters that are written like a wetpaper B-movie. V has Kaz, Ocelot with a much deeper character, big boss is way more mysterious and cooler, and the "empty" open world is only empty if you're a retard that doesn't know what he's doing. I have 1240 hours in V, it's the best game ever made.

>>720046362
I sincerely wish I was autistic and physically handicapped enough to play around in a video game sandbox for over 1000 hours. It must feel amazing while it's happening.

>>720045938
RE4. They should've made a new game instead of changing everything

>>720046428
There are a million different ways to complete every single mission in V, a retard like you that only rushed the objective wouldn't understand the deeply crafted tactical possibilities that V offers. I can probably get out another 1000 hours out of it in the next 5 years, and now that it has the coop mod it's already the best game in the series for fun reasons too. The only other mgs that comes close is 4, but /v/ also hates that one so yea.

>>720045938
The Dead Space one

>>720046260
Retard

>>720045883 (OP)
I bought it but the game design of all non MGS5 games is outdated, horrible pacing but boring sections and very little gameplay, honestly the Splinter Cell games are more fun to play

>V
>forced to repeat almost all the missions to finish the campaign
Fuck that unfinished game.

>>720045883 (OP)
Kojima is the Oshii of vidya

>>720045938
At least this was just a graphical update, RE4 they actually remade the whole thing and it never needed a remake.

>>720046754
>repeat
Kek. This is the typical /v/ brain. You have not completed V if you didn't S rank every mission, you're just a reddit tourist that spouts memes.

>>720046754
>>forced
No you aren't

>>720046320
>V is le bad because it’s le unfinished
>MGS2 fan
>Rising fan
you’re a colossal faggot.

>>720047057
It's always the gay raiden and rising fan talking shit about V.

>>720045938
RE 4

>>720046754
the only forced repeat is the prologue mission
the rest is optional and you can do side-ops instead to unlock the ending

Enter the best MGS game

Peace walker remake is next btw.

>>720046754
You retard, you absolute fucking moron

>>720047057
Rising is incomplete and it shows by having short levels and a couple dumb bosses.
V is incomplete and it shows by literally not having a coherent story.

>>720047164
Raiden is gay because his wife is ugly and annoying?
>>720047057
You can't be an MGS fan and dislike 2. You can't. I know you didn't mean to broadcast this, but your opinion is evidence of inbreeding.

>>720046320
>only talks about plot
>mentions MGS1
>the game featuring retardation like "soldier genes"
>where the war vet MC goes "OMG I DIDNT KNOW GIRLS COULD BE SO CUTE"
>where the villain's motivation to threaten to nuke the US is he's an idiot who has no clue how recessive genes work

>>720047516
>Not having a coherent story
If you have a monkeybrain maybe. V story is very coherent and easy to understand, the "unfinished" part is just the last mission with liquid snakes origins, which is the only missing piece left between V and 1.

>>720047516
And yet they are the only ones who stood the test of time because they are games, not movies.

>>720047470
0 chance

>>720045883 (OP)
I don't plan on getting the remake since I'm pretty fed up with konami, but I still doubt that.
TPP was a massive disappointment; at least delta has the backbone of the level/mission design from 3 and the tech demo mechanics of 5.
5 felt like a flash game expansion made up of fan levels that was created exclusively for a new game, except it was also supposed to be the final chapter in the MG series, but left it everything more half assed than any other game in the mainline series.
if there should ever be a case study in game design on why mechanics aren't the end all for decent game, MGS5 is it.

>>720047516
The story makes perfect sense, ya see, Skullface.......and uhhhhh........WOLBACHIA.......and uhhhhh photosynthesis, so ya see, you, the character may not be Big Boss, but WE, the player are BigBoss, now go forth and zap to the extreme!

>>720047914
The story of MGSV is really simple. in fact it's the simplest of the franchise, you are just still asshurt it wasn't a shitty movie with 30 minute long cutscenes.

>>720046178
Peace Walker was the start of the ruination, really. 3 should have never had any sequels aside from maybe portable ops.

>>720048098
Just say you don't like MGS, little bro

>>720047889
>if there should ever be a case study in game design on why mechanics aren't the end all for decent game, MGS5 is it.
And what you'll find is that there's a reason why people still play MGSV (and MGR) to this day, it's the mechanics.
If your game's mechanics suck, your game sucks

>>720048190
I don't, it's a terrible franchise, beyond MGSV and MGR it's just movies where gameplay is obviously an afterthought, all to focus on plots that have some of the most contrived writing and unnatural dialogues I've ever seen, not to mention how infantile the stories are despite the military settings and the MCU-tier obsession with shoving unfunny humor.
The thing is this wouldn't be acceptable even if it had good writing, because these are videogames, not movies.

>>720045883 (OP)
It wasn't and never will.

>>720048568
>homoseethe
Jackpot

>>720048278
>If your game's mechanics suck, your game sucks
>on why mechanics aren't the end all
I agree, you can't have a good game without decent mechanics, but if you just have a bland tech demo then there's hardly anything interesting to keep you coming back. there's replaying half the game with increased patrols, but aside from that it's basically the same exact shit.

>>720048923
Nice argument.

>>720048190
>>720048923
Heads up: you're replying to a literal ADHD zoomeroid (ESL) who only likes V because he got mindbroken by cutscenes longer than 5 minutes with big, complicated words in the original saga; He revealed to be so in a previous thread, the posting style and talking points match 100%

>>720049241
It still really pisses me off that nothing in TPP asks for the same deliberation and execution as GZ. An alert in GZ was a real fucking problem and you could easily get clipped by like 1-2 guards, in TPP its like "who gives a shit" and you can roll it loud with no repercussion
>NUH uh cuz they'll put on body armor next time!

>>720045938
RE4, Delta is actually good and SOVLFVL.

>>720049367
you can do this is gz and every metal gear

>>720049434
>one of the models is holder her kid on the poster
hnnnng

>>720049367
I think they tried to embrace the open world meme too much. there was a lot in GZ that was leagues better than the main game.

NOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT... MGSV WAS... LE UNFINISHED GEM!!!!! IF ONLY WE GOT CHAPTER 3 WHERE WE HAD ANOTHER BAD REFIGHT AGAINST SELANTHROPOS (featuring Young Anakin from the Phantom Menace) IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED!!! WE. WERE. ROBBED.

>>720046595
I like 4's gameplay a lot. I don't care for it's story at all.

>>720049481
You either haven't played GZ or are being incredibly dishonest. GZ is an exceptional case where it's not as simple as playing headclicker, Omega has actual defenses and will shred you if you aren't prepared and aware of advantageous positions. I'll concede in all the numbered MGS games on normal difficulty sure, you can just kill everyone effortlessly, but GZ was something truly special

>>720049617
if they fixed the metal gear holes, if they fixed mantis' sections, if they fixed liquid's sections, if they fixed quiet's sections, if they fixed BB being a retard, if they finished Emmerich's storyline, if they finished kaz's storyline, if they finished ocelot's storyline,
that's just off the top of my head.

>Metal Gear 2
Running Man
>Peace Walker
Hot Coldman
>Death Stranding
Die Hardman


How come most of Kojima's games are so fucking bad and retarded?

>>720047470
I hope so, imagine that French waifu and Paz but in UE5 with actual cutscenes instead of drawings

No it wasn't faggot.

>>720049434
did I miss this part? Somewhere in grozny?

>>720049434
CQC like that works only 50% of the time and even when it does sometimes they don't get stunned

>>720049950
Theyd need to write actual lines for Liquid. I love a good dollop of fanservice but Eli exclusively speaking in "WERE NOT FINISHED SNAKE" was retarded. He wasn't even a character, he was a memberberry soundboard who is conveniently in the area and doesn't really play any fucking part in anything, AND PSYCHO MANTIS IS HERE TOO!!!! MEMBER HIM!!!!

>>720045883 (OP)
the gameplay of V is top notch and the most fun of the series

the story is meh, but all MGS games have weird story to them. nothing new

>>720049990
>Sons of Liberty
Fatman

>>720050279
Kojima is impressionable to a fault, as such you can pinpoint what movies he watched during the development of all of his games. During the development of MGSV he was real big on Drive, so the historically verbose cutsceney autuer dialed back on all the shit he's known for in favor of a hollow "phantom pain" experience.

The only good Metal Gear is the first one on the PlayStation.

>>720050363
>An obese bomb expert giving himself the moniker of the most influential bomb ever used
vs
>I like Die Hard so I made Die Hardman xD

>>720049241
Yes you can.
Your ilk would call Pacman a tech demo.
The quality of a game is determined by one thing: strip a game of everything but gameplay. Is it still fun? Then it's a good game. If not, it's a failure.

Real question: How do you get good at stealth? No matter how careful I am, I get detected and end up running/rolling through the level

>>720050694
patience

>>720045938
I could already play RE4 with keyboard and mouse aim, Delta was not pointless

>>720050519
Hot Coldman was silly but it's easy to see as more of a codename moniker, the man who would make a hot war out of a cold war type shit. In Death Stranding, there being some 4-5 MAN characters was ridiculous

>>720050694
I duno nigga I think just stay on your toes as best as you can, i always get caught out by that one guy i didn't manage to scan which i think puts me in a false sense of security when i think i know where most people are, i never used to play with reflex but its kinda nice not to get completely fucked after you slip up and havnt hada checkpoint for the last half hour

>>720046595
so you don't like mgs games, got it

>>720049289
No, I do not like cutscenes for the same reason I don't want gameplay in movies, it doesn't fit the medium.
Also, MGS isn't complicated, in fact the plots are so infantile and childish they make Call of Duty campaigns seem gritty in comparison.
It's just a bunch of direct to DVD movies with fart jokes that Kojima for some goddamn reason must find hilarious. I have no clue how any fanbase formed around such a legitimately badly written plot, all I can say is that I'm glad even MGS gave up on this cancerous concept of movies, and at least delivered two actual videogames.

finally got my pirated version working after hours of fucking around with infinite heaven and mods

>>720049990
>Fukushima is in
>nothing but movie games with the worst gameplay in the stealth genre
>he leaves
>Peace Walker
>MGR
>MGSV
>actual videogames which haven't been forgotten, unlike the movies

>>720051046
Does infinite heaven make the game actually worth it?
I played it through on release and wasn't impressed

>>720050975
Yeah, he likes having fun when playing games, so he must hate MGS

>>720051143
>MGR
The game Kojima had almost 0 involvement in?

>>720051164
I just like having helis, tanks and stuff roam around while im free roaming, tuned down some of the vision at night time, health and other little tweaks. Overall def not worth the amount of time I spent getting it to work but it's nice if you want to do some behind the scenes stuff or avar switching ect.

>>720051230
I mean you complain about an entire franchise because you like the one game that isn't anything like the rest of the franchise, maybe you have no right to complain about how the majority of the fanbase views the series?

you're free to like it, but don't act like you're not just a whining pissbaby wandering into a fanbase you don't belong to

>>720051270
And which got greenlighted by him.
After that guy left the games started focusing more and more on gameplay, which is how videogames should be.

>>720045938
RE4, but, despite what retards tell you, the remake is excellent, so now yoi have two fantastic RE4s.

>>720051673
Except you are not defending them because of something like a change in genre, but specifically because it stopped shoving endless cutscenes and prioritizing story, which is something no videogame should do.

>>720045883 (OP)
Bullshit. V was awful when it came to story, snake didnt feel like snake and ocelot didnt feel like ocelot. The plot of V was literally all filler and was a massive disappointment. You didnt even get to see the real ending and you had to replay multiple missions to get the truth mission. The map was empty and you the gameplay was repetative.

Delta has the new and improved gameplay in a much better story with improved cutscenes where they actually have facial animation.

You people just like having Kojimas dick in your mouth

>>720051898
This
To this day they will complain about MGSV not being a movie game

>>720051898
The open world design is also shit, it's real cool that I can kickflip off a cardboard box Kojimbo, but some fucking level design would be nice. Thanks for the 10000 different guns I can drip-feed unlock over 50-60 hours but why do I need them when I can have suppressed weapons from the jump with a ghost dog and a rocket arm.

>>720052000
>improved cutscenes

>>720052000
checked

>>720052000
Ocelot going out of his way to mock a soldier for the engravings on his gun really didn't make any fucking sense at all
>mgs3: DOOD LOOK AT MY GUN, SO EXHILERATING
>mgs1: DOOD LOOK AT MY GUN, SO EXHILERATING
>mgs5: HMMM, ENGRAVINGS ON A GUN, THATS STUPID, YOURE STUPID!!!

>>720052074
You don't, that's an improvement over Peace Walker, you can complete the game with your initial loadout.

>some fucking level design would be nice
There is, the missions clearly want you to go down a specific path and overcome certain challenges.
The open world is made with the missions in mind.

>>720052171
It's literally something Big Boss teaches him in MGS3, dumbass.
I swear MGSfags in /v/ would struggle to understand even COD campaigns

>>720052000
There's no new and improved gameplay, they shoved MGSV's controls into MGS3 without making any changes to levels or boss fights, resulting in a game that's offensively easy because it wasn't meant for those mechanics.

>>720052362
He only did that in MGS3 because HE WAS LIKE THAT IN MGS1 YOU FUCKING DOOFUS!
>no bro, somewhere between GUNS ARE COOL ocelot and GUNS ARE COOL ocelot he actually shows his true colors and says "GUNS ARE GAY!"

>>720052560
I switched it to old school mode and was getting spotted by people i couldnt see , no thanks gramps

>>720052564
>Was

>>720052564
>He only did that in MGS3 because HE WAS LIKE THAT IN MGS1
Yes, it shows how Ocelot changed through the years, it's called character development.
He learned in MGS3 that having dumbass engravings in guns is pointless because those type of guns are for collecting, not for using in a battlefield, and then in MGSV he teaches this lesson to a recruit showing his character growth.
What part of this made your low IQ brain seethe?

>>720052832
Then why does Ocelot regress to geeking out of engravings in his revolver in MGS1....

>>720052832
He seethes because V mogs any other game in the series
https://youtu.be/VofQjhpkJpY
This scene in V has more weight than any scene from mgs1-3.

>>720052906
What the fuck does realizing gay cosmetics have no use in war have to do with his preference for revolvers?
For fucks sake that entire subplot in MGS3 is him realizing he preferred revolvers than semi-auto pistols

>>720047746
coherence isn't the only measure of a good plot, retard. The storytelling itself is not satisfying or engaging. There's nothing to pay attention to because every development is just Kojima following some stupid whim. You can feel that it's an ADHD stream of consciousness by a stupid Jap and not a masterfully crafted plot with intrigue, characters, themes, etc.

>>720052906
>Ocelot uses a Makarov
>Snake tells him that the way he fires a gun fits a revolver better
>Ocelot buys some shitty fancy decorative revolver full of drawings
>Snake calls him a dumbass and clarifies that he should get an actual revolver and not a toy

>>720053224
>masterfully crafted plot with intrigue, characters, themes
Nigger MGS at it's best is fucking capeshit tier.
Spec Ops was a far better military story than MGS, and it wasn't exactly deep or subtle.

>>720053071
It has to do with Ocelot being out of character in V.
In MGS3: the prequel, Ocelot is a gay SAA revolver fag who obsesses over having /fa/ gunsthetics
In MGS1: Ocelot is a gay SAA revolver fag who obsesses over having /fa/ gunsthetics
In MGSV: the game that takes place between these two games, he wields a fucking makarov and clowns a guy for trying to have /fa/ gunsthetics
In MGS2: prior to being fake hypnod into being liquid he is a gay SAA revolver fag who obsesses over having /fa/ gunsthetics
In MGS4: when he reveals it was all a ruse he is a gay SAA revolver fag who obsesses over having /fa/ gunsthetics
ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER

>>720053405
It's all shit you simpleton. Video games

>>720052113
Yeah its improved. One screenshot of a cutscene doesnt mean shit.

>>720053428
>Ocelot is a gay SAA revolver fag who obsesses over having /fa/ gunsthetics
He literally stops obsessing over aesthetics like 2 hours into the game.
>In MGS1: Ocelot is a gay SAA revolver fag who obsesses over having /fa/ gunsthetics
>In MGS2: prior to being fake hypnod into being liquid he is a gay SAA revolver fag who obsesses over having /fa/ gunsthetics
>In MGS4: when he reveals it was all a ruse he is a gay SAA revolver fag who obsesses over having /fa/ gunsthetics
No he doesn't, he likes the SAA due to utility, not because it's pretty.

>>720053428
Because in V he is the matured real Ocelot, he goes back to his old self in 1 when Venom dies. Big boss is an asshole, he abandoned them in V and he probably started to feel more loyalty towards Venom at the end

>>720053601
Yeah, the uncanny valley facial animations, the unfitting lighting and complete lack
of lip sync are great

>>720053649
>utility
Like the Exhileration of reloading your 6 shot revolver mid battle? That utility?

>>720045883 (OP)
Yeah. Even Kojima's weaker games are superior to this outsourced Chinese slop.

>>720052560
The old tranquilizer guns worked like sniper rifles. Fuck off

>>720053732
How is finding a reload fun "obsessing over aesthetics"?
Just admit you are a dumbass who would get lost even in the plot of some kid cartoons

MG1 and MG2 are the only needed remakes. No one actually played those

>>720045938
This one for sure. The RE4 made more significant changes which at least makes it different

>>720053731
None of that is true you faggot. You are just bitching for the sake of bitching.

>>720053837
Ocelot has a consistent character in every game but 5 where he's this cool measured flavorless mentor character

>>720052560
The gameplay is not even close to anywhere near mgsv, snake can't aim for shit and his hands keep shaking, the bullets drop off way sooner, the recoil is insane aswell.

>>720053923
You talked about why he teaches others that engravings are useless.
Does he learn that in MGS3, yes or no?

>>720053805
Then why did death stranding 2 fucking suck? No one is even talking about it anymore.

>>720053898
Or we can link a cutscene compilation here and watch it for ourselves.
This remake was made by a bunch of pajeets like every modern Triple A.

>>720045883 (OP)
They should have remade all the games with V's engine.

Change my mind.

>>720054000
>does he learn that in mgs3
Not really as we know from mgs1 he is still all about it. I guess he has a brief out of character moment in V where he moves to a makarov before he comes to his senses in mgs1 and goes back to SAAs with engravings

>this thread
MGSfags have the lowest IQ on /v/, no wonder MGS1 seems genius to you

>>720054061
It was universally regarded as an improvement on the original, which was already seen as a very good and original game.

>>720054162
When does he go on about engravings in MGS1?

>goes back to SAAs with engravings
Where do you see any engravings here?

>>720054000
Dude this isnt that difficult. You are making yourself look stupid

>>720054084
I played the fucking game. I know what Im talking about

>>720054357
No it isn't.
In MGS3 he learns engravings are gay, he teaches this in MGSV, and only uses standard revolvers in MGS1, 2 and 4.

>>720054292
In twin snakes you can clearly see engravings around the cylinder

>>720054536
You can't. and even if that was true that's the remake where Snake 360 no scopes Sniper Wolf and that Kojima didn't work on.

>>720054524
Thats a different argument then ignoring his character regression

I am getting hard filtred by Delta extreme, like most of the difficulty comes from the shitty controls like:
>large deadzones
>fucked up wall leaning
>Can't cqc from a wall
>Enemies seem to randomly spot and get alerted to you
>Enemies walk super slowly

I like the slower pace compared to MGSV, but the difficulty seems straight up artificial and bullshit sometimes, it's like the Devs balanced the whole game around tranq headshotting your way around.

>>720053864
I did. MG1 isn't really worth it but MG2 is a really good game.

>>720050694
Learn how the enemy soldiers work. If you can understand their behaviour, it'll click.

>>720053864
I'm playing 2 for the first time now. I can't get the stupid bitch to go into the bathroom. I've waited so long an she just won't do it. I don't know how I fucked up waiting for a bitch to take a piss.

How the FUCK do I get a suppressor?

>>720055646
You're over-using the gun, mix it in with cqc, smoke grenades, stuff like that.

>>720053712
This. V is the only "real" Ocelot we ever see. In every other game he just plays the role. I think even in 3 he was acting more extra on purpose, not because he was actually this childish.

>>720051143
MGSV has shit gameplay. It has good controls, the main character controls are tight but that's about it. Everything else is garbage, literal empty open meme with braindead AI, you have to do OSP to get a sliver of challenge otherwise the game is sleep-inducing.

>>720045883 (OP)
>V was better.
No, it wasn't. The gameplay, level design and story are all much worse.

>>720052171
I wonder why he does it in front of Venom. He just stands there and stares like a retard because he can't possibly remember that quote about engravings because he's not actually BB kek

>>720056578
>>720056676
You did not play V/only played chapter 1.

>>720053712
>>720056676
Did you faggots even finish the game?

>>720056730
Holy retard they share memories you fucking nigger, Venom is Big Boss

>MGS3 - Ocelot was retarded
>MGSV - Ocelot has ceased being retarded thanks to the influence of Big Boss
>MGS1 - Ocelot was only pretending to be retarded!!!
The shit people come up with to explain Kojima simply changing his mind about the character

>>720053014
>we are le diamond dogs
Kek you can't be serious. The entire ending sequence from MGS3 mogs everything in V

>>720056769
I finished the entire game when it came out. One of the worst games I had the displeasure to play, the Final Fantasy 13 of Metal Gear franchise.

>>720056858
Yeah while hypnotozing Venom they definitely implanted memory about some small random quote about engravings kek

>>720056882
>MGS3 - Ocelot works for philosphers while pretending to be gay
>MGSV - Ocelot works for Big Nigger while pretending to be gay
>MGS1 - Ocelot works for patriots
>MGS2 - Ocelot works for patriots and he's gay because Liquid is inside of him

>>720056858
>>720056858
Venom isnt big boss

>>720056956
Look I get you're one of those Big Boss niggers that write off all of V because Snake isn't "muh real big boss" but anyone who played all games know and agree V has the most mature and best writing, Kojima found his sweetspot for writing with V and keeps doing it in the DS games.

>>720056956
It's only good because Snake was silent the whole time

>>720057207
> but anyone who played all games know and agree V has the most mature and best writing

Literally no one thinks this

>>720057206
>>720057071
Play MGS1 you fucking retards, why click on a mgs thread if you obviously haven't played the games?

>>720057279
>didn't metal a single gear
ngmi

>>720057207
>best writing
He barely talks or does anything on his own. He's a mute retard. Also Kuefer sucks

>>720057423
And that is the exact reason why he's mature and mysterious, as BB should be. Every single thing he says has meaning, he is not the dumb kid from 3 anymore, he talks through his actions. If you had played Quiets final mission you would know this. Snake is at his best in V because he only talks when he has something meaningful to say. Like the Big Boss should.

>>720049434
>unreal slop
it would be soulful if it was made using fox engine

I will use this thread to point out that Peace Walker will 100% be the next game to get Delta treatment. They actually completely made a new model for the PW sneaking suit instead of just porting the Ground Zeros version

>>720057423
As if he does or says anything in 3 besides asking questions about words he doesn't understand, even then he stole that from solid snake

>>720057675
It's very obvious they're remaking peace walker, it's stuck on the fucking psp and has arguably the most important story bits about MGS in general

>>720057675
GZ model is over 10 years old and looks like shit, they're not gonna reuse it if they were already remaking everything for delta

What determines whether a choke will give five stars of stun vs. three?

>>720057829
fascinating, everything in this sentence is wrong

>>720057675
Why does snake look so old in V?

>>720057675
When they remake PW they NEED to put this in
https://youtu.be/BK8FktCxNp8?si=X2IpDJ7Wzj_xby6N

>>720058048
He's like 49

>>720057962
Remaking the PW sneaking suit and battle dress is too much effort for a DLC pack, especially when all the other nonPW skins in the pack look really lazy in comparison

>>720045938
RE4. There's at least a point to be made that MGS3 vanilla has some pretty dumb controls, and the pressure sensitive stuff just flat out doesn't work on controllers now.
RE4 vanilla was genuinely pretty much perfect, and no the fact that you can't move and shoot isn't a flaw. It's a considered part of the game design.

>>720057290
Mgs1? Venom has no part in mgs1

>>720058274
No they don't, shut the fuck up retard devlet

>>720058336
It is mentioned he had died prior to the events of mgs1.

>>720057207
DS is a step backwards. He went back to over-explaining themes, and WORDSWORDSWORDS.

>>720058418
The croc suit does look bad

>>720050247
skill issue

>>720058296
RE4 vanilla was lost though, the port they kept porting everywhere else was fucking garbage

>>720057630
>bugman engine optimized to make devs lazy
definition of slop

>>720045883 (OP)
no

>>720058447
Yeah thats the actual Big Boss

>>720058575
Are you not capable of operating Dolphin emulator?

Every mgs game after 3 was really bad, writing wise.

I hate that kojima insists on undermining shit in earlier games for no reason. As much as people hate 2, it doesn't change anything meaningful about the first game.

Liked liquids obsession with big boss? Well guess what he never really even met him. Thanks kojima mgs1 is now worse

>>720058464
You should go back to playing ps1 games faggot

>>720058769
He still couldve met him later on. Big Boss said some crazy shit to him if you go by what Liquid said

>>720057207
The story is literally unfinished and introduces a skeleton man who was at operation snake eater all along. Also the twist is terrible.

>>720045938
...there are necessary remakes?

>>720058769
3 was just as bad as 4, you only like it because you played it when you were 12

>>720058769
This is so funny when 90% of the dialogue in 3 is just
>Snake: The thing?!
>Person: Yep. The thing is real and can actually kill you.
>Snake: Huh. *grunts* I see.
>Person: The Boss
>Snake: The Boss?!
3 has padded writing and nobody ever talks about the backtracking either. I don't get why it's considered the best from everyone.

>>720058838
I guess so, but then why even have Liquid in V. Its pointless and adds nothing. They could've

>V
>better than anything
Kojima's never ending desire to make Big Boss a Dindu Nuffin Mary Sue combined with a completely unfinished techdemo where you can just run in run out of literally 95% of the games "stealth" sections.

>>720058838
>implying he knew V wasn't Naked Snake
Big Boss is a meme, like Putin

>>720058995
Dialogue is different than plot. But I would probably agree with you.

>>720059112
>Dindu nuffin
He literally abandoned everyone in V, what are you talking about?

>>720059017
Thats exactly the issue. V is literally filler if you think about it

I have a theory. Only black people hate V because of Kaz.

>>720059253
Because he had to in order to make a better msf/dd

>>720059253
>He literally abandoned everyone in V
I don't remember V that well. Did he also abandon Ocelot if Ocelot was "on it" from the start and helped BB escape and make his phantom and shit?

>>720059649
They clearly didnt finish the game

>>720059649
No, Ocelot is BBs spy looking after Kaz and V to play their parts

>>720059929
Thats not even true. Big Boss never had an issue with either of them

Objective MGS ranking
4>5>1>3>2

>>720045938
RE4. Those bitches at Capcom changed the game and shit on the original. Konami did it right with Delta. It's literally the same game with better graphics and controls. It respects the artistic legacy of the original while taking advantage of modern technology. RE4 remake would have been amazing if it was a bit-for-bit remake of the original. I wouldn't expect anything more from Capcom. They're the EA/Activision of the East.

>>720045883 (OP)
Anything is better than the perpetual slow mo input lag shit that is delta.

>>720060047
You don't understand, and I don't think you'll ever grow up to understand. Here, have a funny picture!

>>720060113
If you're gay

>>720045883 (OP)
only 17% of ppl beat V
game shilled by trams

>>720046362
>Kaz, Ocelot with a much deeper character, big boss is way more mysterious and cooler
thats peace walker you are thinking of, not V(irgin)

>>720046362
>I have 1240 hours in V, it's the best game ever made
Fuck. I've had that game in my Steam backlog for like 5 years and still have even installed it. I just have trouble getting into open world games now. Too much stress as an adult to lose myself in that kind of world

>>720060571
Then explain how BB abandoned Ocelot

>>720046362
Big boss isn't big boss, ocelot is boring and boring like he is in the other games (plus voiced by faggy troy baker), kaz is a retarded drama queen who stole most of the lines big boss should've been saying

>>720060113
1=3>2>Pw>V>4

>>720045883 (OP)
Why is snakes eyes so small in delta?

>>720058769
>Every mgs game after 3 was really bad, writing wise.
this stupid fuck thinks 3 is well writtten

>>720060113
2=5>1>3>4>PW

>>720060856
I agree except Vocelot is hot as fuck but I don't expect men to appreciate it

>>720061107
How could anyone think 2 is the best? Too many codecs, replacement and lying around the main character, etc.

Honestly the remake is pretty good, I don't get the hate. It's literally the same game as 3, just better graphics.

>>720061340
>Expensive
>Bad Performance
>Some scenes look bad or weird
I can understand why people don't like it even if its fine in my opinion

>>720060113
This but with opposite meme arrows

>>720061308
Those are all the best parts

>>720061595
If youre anti gaming, sure. Most consumers dont like being lied to though. Youre the exception. Next time you go to mcdonalds and order a burger and they throw a shit filled bag in your car you cant complain

>>720045938
Mgs3 had terrible controls so this remake was needed

>>720046362
>Big boss
Not in the game

>>720061673
As if I would ever go to McDonalds

>>720053731
>complete lack of lip sync
But that applies only to the PS2 USA/EU version, because the original was synced to jap VO. The remake actually fixes english lip sync and still has sync to jap audio if you select it.
I know it's a lowbrow comment for MGS series, but you fags genuinely never play those games. I saw another ragebait youtube video and the faggot zoomer said with a straight face that the PS2 game ran at locked 30fps and never had any framerate issues lmao.
Just people spouting their own headcanon without ever actually playing those games.

>>720060280
>I wouldn't expect anything more from Capcom. They're the EA/Activision of the East.
thats square

>>720062176
Thats not the point.

>>720061124
A W W W WOMAN INTO METAL GEAR!??
tis a great sight to see
1. Don't worry, I'll be the one in the kitchen :^)

Just wish there were more interiors really

>>720061340
It runs like absolute shit, even when the fps is up there's input lag. Fucking God awful

>>720062103
Play metal gear 1, venom IS big boss

>>720064612
If you think MGSV is canon in any way you have severe mental illness

>>720063054
Good, I like a man who knows his place. Do you enjoy being spanked too?

>>720066037
Delta confirmed the canon

>>720066645
MGS3 also has China bombing bomb pearl harbor instead of Japan. None of these games are canon to each other

>>720066037
the seeds were planted since 1987

>>720045938
RE4 Remake at least did a few things differently even if I prefer the original. I don't even think I want to get Delta especially since I have a master collection copy of 3

>>720068529
Enjoy your broken slopmaster, I guess

>>720067105
I respect the restraint for Kojima to not name a character Fox Hounder

>>720045938
gears of war reloaded.

>>720068717
>restraint

>>720068959
>arnold
Fucking seriously, Kojimbo?

>>720050651
>Your ilk would call Pacman a tech demo.
oh please, MGSV is hardly an arcade game.

>>720057675
>I will use this thread to point out that Peace Walker will 100% be the next game to get Delta treatment.

I mean that should be obvious to anyone paying attention
>Metal Gear 1 and 2 are too old and would require total overhauls
>MGS is also pretty dated and would be a risky remake
>MGS2 and 4 make no sense because they're direct sequels

That just leaves Peace Walker, which is next in the timeline, is relatively modern so doesn't require too much changes, but is still a PSP game so it would be a nice "upgrade". Peace Walker is also Big Boss in a jungle setting so you can reuse a bunch of Delta assets. Of course they could remake portable ops and its something I would personally like to see, but I doubt they don't care because its not famous enough

remember when Chico raped Paz? good times

>>720071216
Does death stranding have anything that comes close to this in terms of shock value? Haven't played either one yet

>>720069634
They need to add Medic as a character. A masked soldier with a bunch of easter eggs.

>>720050247
It depends on the soldier that you're CQCing

>>720071343
a dead baby is the closest thing to shock value about that game

>>720050471
That was the 4th or 5th metal gear

>>720071424
>missing the point
Americans...

>>720045938
They're both unnecessary, but I will say that RE4's remake at least added and changed some things. Delta is just UE5 reskin slop, there's literally nothing new to the game.

>We have people on here saying OG MGS3 had bad controls
Are you people fucking retarded

>>720050206
Nope, it's the same building where Granin is, there is a stair case that leads to the basement holding cells (where you get put if the End takes you out)

>>720045938
I haven't played Delta because the price tag, but MGS3 needed it's control scheme updated way more than RE4. The whole first person aiming thing was just Kojima shoving an FPS mode in the MGS1 control scheme, and it only worked on the PS2 because the face buttons were also analog. Now you use L3 as well as pressing Square and really the control schemes are now a mess on modern controllers. It's something you can get used to, but the games are still good in-spite of it not because of it. RE4 didn't really need anything major. Maybe you could argue being able to strafe or removing the QTE shit (which the remake did), but MGS3 has just a more fundamental problem.

>>720072668
There's literally nothing wrong with MGS3's FPS aiming, you've just been indoctrinated with your modern strafe mechanics and can't deal with it.

>>720049434
kek

>>720072935
>you've just been indoctrinated with your modern strafe mechanics and can't deal with it.
What a worthless post. First off, I literally grew up with MGS1/2/3 and played them on release. Second I recently beat the master collection no problem and easily dealt with it. And third, your post is nothing more than just going NUH UH like a fucking child. Yes, having to use like 3 buttons to shoot is ridiculous and doesn't feel good and if it didn't they would have kept it for the remake. Kojima even admits he was wrong by MGS5

>>720073229
Thanks for your resume, and no you don't have to use 3 buttons to shoot, retard. It's literally R1 or whatever and a button. Analog stick is not a button and if the PS2 or PS3 controller you played on wasn't intuitive to easily pull it off, then you just suck ass. This isn't nostalgiafagging, it's just plain facts.

>>720052113
Looks ok with legacy filter

>>720045883 (OP)
Everyone saying shit like
V was bad!
PW was bad
4 me no like

Everyone has fucking memory holes the dog shit metal gear game that was about zombies - survive

>>720072935
>STRAFING BAD
This is peak /v/. It's not even contrarian at this point, it's just plan retarded. Whenever anyone plays Wolfenstien 3d or Duke Nukem, they rebind their controls to wasd these days. Do you complain about that? Is that "Indoctrination"? Do you use a mouse when playing those games? Is that also "indoctrination" since they weren't originally designed with a mouse?

>>720073594
because it wasn't, you got memed

>>720073596
I didn't say strafing was bad, I'm saying whoever is crying about MGS3's control scheme is a complete retard.

>>720061874
The controls are still ass, i dunno what you guys are yapping about

Soooo when are we going to talk about the backtracking in 3?

>>720073724
You can set movement on right stick and camera on left, aiming on X and shooting on L1 while inverting all axis in Delta. It's a unique control scheme which makes it better than zoomer fortnike controls your favorite game has

>>720073992
What backtracking?

>>720073992
You want to talk about things that don't exist?

wtf no it wasn't

MGSV had terrible mission structure, terrible enviroments, terrible level design, it was completely sterile and empty. zero interior missions because kojimbo brainrotted from open world slop

>>720074071
Fine, but how does this tie around to saying the original MGS3's controls were le bad?

>>720050694
MGS3 was designed to be played very slowly compared to MGS1 and MGS2, soliton radar being removed and the low tech motion detector and camo system force you to stick to tall grass, stalk from tree to tree, guards are also more observant than ever and have huge cones of sight and a great sense of hearing compared to MGS2

its one of my biggest complaints about the game but it fits what they were going for with big boss feeling like a jungle predator stalking its prey pretty well

it went downhill after the first game to be honest

>>720062103
>Not in the game
He quite literally is Secondary-Kun

>>720072456
It does, there's no way that you didn't ask yourself why you can't crouch walk in the OG, the areas are huge, prone boning the whole way is tedious and if you want to survive you must do that at least until you memorize every enemy placement cause the moment you stand up and walk you'll get spotted

>>720074230
Good post. But let's be real, that radar they have in mgs3 was completely useless

>>720074167
Kojima didn't actually like open-world, MGSV was Kojima seething at open world slop games like GTA and AssCreed, MGS4 was the same thing, but the seethe was directed at FPS games like Call of Duty.

>>720074356
Crouch walking being introduced doesn't immediately invalidate the controls in the OG. Real knowers of the game know that you don't even have to prone your way through a level, you can easily just CQC stun them before they can give off an alert. It's why it's a mechanic in the first place and if you had to prone your way the whole game, then you are just garbagio.

>>720053898
>animation and facial movements are even more stiff than the original, on highdetail models it makes them look like reanimated corpses
>colour grading is all wrong, foregoes the amber filter (this is connected to the level, lore and thematics of the scene)
>no frame shadows on the slowmo gun tosses = not cinema
>dust clouds relegated to background instead of foreground, barely visible
>animation hasn't been synced for the higher fps, depth of field is fucked, so you can't see what he's doing
>oversaturated and overdetailed background elements draw the eye away from the very specific colours used for Ocelot (his red gloves draw the eye, stand as a defining line between his black uniform and black guns)
>AHHH even the bit where he throws the gun up in to the orange sky is fucked because they made it semi-overcast and blue
>THEY REMOVED THE VULTURE SCREECHES IN THE BACKGROUND
>in nearly every shot they fucked up the very deliberate leading lines of the environment to make them "more realistic", everything becomes a muddy mess
>again, animations are happening twice as fast, losing the impact of shot transitions
The death of art
Grim.

>>720074185
walking slowly on analog doesn't actually silence your footsteps like in mgs2, you have to use the dpad like a retard with poor motor skills (pcnigger)
no inventory grouping or quick select options from mgs2, instead you have 8 item/weapon limit and a shitty fucking inventory menus with menus inside. not even real-time like in metal gear survive (the better game) shit is just there so you can pause and waste your time might as well put family guy tiktoks somewhere.
collision detection was changed and mgs2 controls don't work well with it, snake gets stuck in thin trees and shit while crawling around

tl;dr mgs2 was better

>>720074564
I see the Seethe at FPS games in 4 but I don't see it in V, considering the next two games he made were also open world I just don't think you are right on that one.

>>720074602
>mechanics so bad you should avoid interacting with them
la cratividad...

>>720074602
Sorry I have not mastered Za Warudo yet, I cannot teleport behind the enemy which is across the map and body slam him before the alert starts

>>720074784
>Misrepresenting my argument
la retardvidad...

>>720074845
You should learn, otherwise you'll keep being a shitter for the rest of your goyfeed eating life.

>>720074864
>cope
lol

Huey did nothing wrong.

>>720072456
Even Kojima realized how badly they fucked up when this came out a year before

>>720075405
I kinda felt like they jumped the shark with Huey's betrayal. I get that he was always supposed to be an asshole, but I wanted him to be the Otacon to Big Boss.

>>720045938
Dead Space

>>720075513
>betrayal
Huh?

Delta is better than TPP because it feels more like a proper stealth game than just a sandbox power fantasy. I had a lot of fun with TPPs playground approach, but I really missed the sort of "back to basics" MGS stealth. Delta is really challenging me because I'm so conditioned to just easily be able to tranq everything or run up to enemies and CQC a whole group. Its MGS so its not realistic of course but guards feel much more like actual encounters in Delta and I really like that

>>720051143
>actual videogames which haven't been forgotten, unlike the movies
I'm sure the same will be said about the death stranding games.

>>720075662
GZ did it better than TPP, AI had much better visibility and more killing power, organically funneling you to access points.

I've been replaying V after beating MGSD(3).
It doesn't compare very well to old Metal Gear, its just a fully realized Peace Walker and I thought Peace Walker was meh.

My biggest problem is the open world, its not compelling. All the missions are generic and lame. Even the areas and bases you're supposed to infiltrate have like no small passages, tunnels, grass, etc to actually sneak around. Its a cool game, but its pretty weak.

>>720075662
You can tranq and cqc everything easily in MGS3 as well though

>>720072456
I can't stand people who can't get into complicated controls. They let you be so much more deliberate with specific actions

>>720075590
Fuck off, Huey

>>720075662
>proper stealth game is when you walk from entrance to exit

>>720045938
It's a toss-up between this, RE4, Dead Space, The Last of Us, and Horizon Zero Dawn.

>>720075879
Examples?

>>720046892
Jesus fuck, that was cringe to read.

>>720075910
(You) should be on this boat.

>>720075820
>its just a fully realized Peace Walker
it's literally worse than PW in every way though
worse bosses, worse music, worse story, no coop, worse level design
I didn't even LIKE PW

>>720045938
Nothing fucking beats Last Of Us 2: Remastered

>>720076178
No sane man will play the shit bosses in PW and thinking the ones in any Metal Gear aren't better. Fucking MG1 has better bosses than PW

>>720076239
V's were somehow worse.

>>720076178
>worse bosses
PW had no bosses
>worse music
PW had no music
>worse story
PW had no story
>no coop
PW had no coop
>worse level design
PW had no level design
*sins of the father plays*

>>720074640
This

>>720053898
you're a retarded faggot

>>720076303
>I didn't play PW
That's all you had to say. Random tank battles were more engaging than anything in V.
And again, I didn't even like PW but V is just dogshit.

>>720076098
Think something like Mirrors Edge vs Assassins Creed. While the mechanics in Mirrors Edge are not necessarily super complicated there are enough different parkhour moves that you can learn to use by performing actual unique button inputs in order to actually execute them.
In Assassins Creed, you simply hold a trigger alongside your movement stick and your character will perform all sorts of parkour moves in the direction of your choice. They are both obviously different for the requirements of each game with Parkour being the entire gimmick of Mirrors Edge while it's mostly just a means to get around in most AC games, I much prefer the latter example where you get the freedom to actually perform what you want as well as the enjoyment of learning the systems that the developers created.

>>720045883 (OP)
better gameplay, worse story

>>720076178
I dont agree with this. I replayed PW on my steam deck (Played it on the VITA years ago) and it was pretty ass.
Aside from like 3-4 decent missions I cant really say I enjoyed it, I didn't even stick around to do the secret boss either.

>>720076568
V didn't even have 3-4 decent missions though.

>>720076178
Yeah, peace Walker had bottlenecks and chokepoints, when you found a clever way around it was like "oh neat" phantom pain let's you hit most every mission from any direction and the blind as bats AI let you ballroom dance in and out like it ain't shit

>>720052000
We get it, you're a mongreling storyfag with no love of gameplay, go away.

>>720076672
Yep, and you have infinite magazines and just getting to your mission is a colossal waste of fucking time.

>>720076449
I played 100 hours of it on PSP you FUCKING BITCH FAGGOT! chip damaging shitty anime robots IS FUCKING ABYSMALL! shitty anal trumped FUCKING SUCK! ai slop boss robot SUCKS SO MUCH IT KILLS ITSELF! 3 random snake eater corridors connect to each other IS FUCKING BORING! SUCK MY DICK LIKE YOU SUCK THIS GAME OFF YOU FAGGOT GAY NIGGER GAME LOVING FAGGOT! UOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>720076178
You're just being a contrarian at this point

>>720076808
Yeah the bosses are gay, now compare them to the bosses in Phantom Pain....

>>720076630
Dude even though V had very unimaginative areas and enviroments I will 100% die on the hill that was better than PW. PW was really fucking awful, you drop into a MG2/MGS3 sized area and it was the mission. Sometimes smaller and it looked w orse graphically

>>720045883 (OP)
TRVTH NVKE

>>720076870
>>720076843
Explains why you have literally no argument against what I said. You know I'm right.

>>720076863
The Skulls? Easily the best bosses in MGS since they require you use game mechanics against them instead of being shitty damage sponges

>>720077004
Hot Coldman.

>>720077024
>the skulls
>good
>in relation to damage sponge shitty bosses
Yeah okay bud

>>720045883 (OP)
>after playing delta I decided to reply some of the mgs games
Jesus christ some of these games age HORRIBLY, how can people call these stealth games, like the Cqc was changed at least THREE times because kojima thought it was broken, the tranq was also changed a few times in the later series too, 1 was fun and 2 was pretty good, the portable games such ASS, acid, and portable ops are Stright up shit boring tier with peace walker behind

>>720075842
No, the limited ammo and suppressors really becomes noticable in Delta on higher difficulties, its an actual valuable resource unlike TPP. The CQC is also way more limited, you can't just run up the enemies and CQC a whole group because Alerts will trigger immediately in the area.

>>720077004
You disgust me, not only did you not combat any of my points but you managed to get me to bat for MGSV and I just said I thought it had the weakness MGS aspects of the series.

>>720045883 (OP)
not scorpion's albino mississipi gore clock is fang the ghost sushi maam X2SHX (5 minutes)

>>720077125
>>720077183
>cope sneedman

>>720075986
And yet, despite being literal PS2 levels, the level design is still more compelling than TPP's

>>720051034
(You)

>>720077167
>muh graphics even though PW is highly stylized
>muh level size even though V is literally 99% empty space, menus, and loading screens
you really think these were points?

>>720053428
>he wields a fucking makarov and clowns a guy for trying to have /fa/ gunsthetics
A much better way to interpret this is that he's pretending to clown a guy over having engravings because Big Boss is within earshot.

Huh. That was easy.

am I the only one who thinks ground zeroes had a better level than the entirety of tpp?

>comparing a psp game to a console game
Please don't do this

are the Acid games good story-wise or gameplay-wise?

>>720077452
>story
Nobut I like them, pretty sure they're not canon
>gameplay
Its fucking kinotime

>>720077412
that is the general consensus on /v/
since you don't know that already I'm assuming you're brand new

>>720077412
No, this is a very common opinion posted often

>>720077004
Worse than V? Not even by a mile. Even if you were to argue that V's story was worse than PW's, you still have PSP restricted levels and gameplay. In no way was it any better than V's.

>>720077251
>level design is when walls and boxes

>>720077412
>am I the only one
No, and I'd hazard to say most of everyone's true disappointment isn't in Keifer "3 lines" sutherland barely saying anything, but the map having 0 meat, where Camp Omega had size and density and complex patrol routes, and multiple defense mechanisms

>>720077452
2 > 1 in all aspects but even then acid 1 mogs everything kojima made in 2000s

>>720077412
I'm pretty sure everyone expected over a dozen GZ tier bases.

>>720077510
>spoiler
Acid 1 happens in a world where the MGS series didn't happen, and Acid2 doesn't work within canon anyway because Solid Snake can't be cloned

>>720077589
Now contrast them to the literally nothing levels of MGSV with empty wastes of space to get to them and insanely long "loading" screens. All with significantly inferior enemies and bosses as well as worse music and a worse story.

You have to be retarded to think I'm wrong.

>>720077682
>Acid 1 happens in a world where the MGS series didn't happen

wrong sorta

>>720077742
They weren't "nothing levels", that's the point. V suffered from open world emptiness meme, but there was still shit to do. PW is literally a corridor play through, going through 1 level to the next as dictated by the PSP hardware restrictions, and with even shittier mechanics. Anybody who says the PW was more fun to play than V is just being a contrarian retard, like yourself.

>>720077452
I'm sorry I just can't stand VN tier text expositions, the gameplay is pretty neat

Why couldn't V be an evil BB game again?

>>720077590
>level design is when walls and boxes

This but unironically, vertical geometry is literally 101 in stealth level design, hence why africa is a much worse map than afghanistan in MGSV, its mostly just flat plains

>>720077742
Idk what MGSV you played but you got ripped off nigga, this one part of the map shits all over every 3d metal gear

>>720077590
>"But anon you dont understand, those mission areas in PW the size of a random hallway in MGS3 are actually better than MGSV because um my nostalgia"

>>720045883 (OP)
I wish they'd remake MGS 1 with Big Boss' ending like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1NU_yjOfQ4

>>720077947
SUBVERSION!!! also Kojima decided BB couldn't be a true bad guy after he fell in love with him during the development of 3
>big boss was never a true bad because perspective, any guy behind the gun is a bad guy
No, the man threatening nuclear Holocaust to the rest of the world is a true bad guy, he's a straight up mustache twirling villain in MG1 and 2, there's no "That's just an opinion" angle to be had

>>720078072
fake Big Boss******

>>720078032
you don't have to prone anon, they can't see you, you can also completely skip them, hang right and fly in running full speed, no-one gives a shit

>>720078024
There are lots of really cool areas and bases in between all the empty space. I wish the entire game was more like GZ, areas like that got expanded and there was no boring open world in between them.

I'm being gaslighted or is Delta actually hard? People on /v/ saying that the camera made everything easier but i don't see it, i'm playing on extreme and not tranqing everyone btw.

>>720077898
>They weren't "nothing levels",
They were.

>>720078024
I'm going to chalk this up to you having an extremely low IQ.

>>720078210
>guy revered by mercs and hated by glowies in mgs1
>is a nuke equipped lolifucking anarchocommunist
>leaves everyone to start his pedo heaven
>the guy he puts in his place is a hero painting him in good light among mercs
>IT MAKES NO HECKIN SENSE!!! HE SUPPOSED TO EAT CHILDREN AND FIRE NUKES OUT OF HIS ASS REEEE KOJIMA WHERE'S MY PAZ SEX SIMULATOR AAAAAAAAAAA

>>720078405
>I wish it was disneyland and I was the pedophile in it

>>720078461
>lolifucking
What?

>>720078461
Legendary sex scene with Quiet and Paz would have been kino.

>>720078565
>here's to you chico and paz :-DDDD

>>720077947
It was you just don't get to play as BB.

>>720078538
SHE'S ONLY 25 YOU SICKFUCK

>>720078461
What the game of MGSV actually positions it as
>erm actually BB is a saint, everyone loves him except for the NWO cabal.
What MG1 positions it as
>I've got this nuke robot and I'm gonna fuck all of you up
What pseuds see this as
>whoa bro, it's all shades of gray innit

>>720078651
MGSV positions him as a pussy and a fraud who uses some random medic to do everything for him and lies to and abandons his best friend.

>>720078651
What Kojima positions it as
>U RIKE?

>>720078860
>venom isn't real big boss
He's the neonuke Hitler from MG1....that dude talking all that shit to you, that's Venom

>>720078651
saint BB is venom (kush vape) degenerate BB is naked (cocaine in cigars)
they're different people and V and MG1 give you different perspectives because of different protags
but you haven't played either goy cattle ps2 tranny

>>720078410
>and not tranqing everyone btw.
the game was made around it sadly

>>720078954
one sits in office and asmr talks into your ear, the other is in the base ready to eat 10 rockets you retard

>>720057829
to this day I still wonder WHY they made the psp with one fucking analog stick, were people that retarded back then?

>>720079497
And then Nintendo did it with the 3ds

>>720079497
>were people that retarded back then?
yes, 2000s were retarded and troonlennials are the clear example, mentally ill nigger loving tranny faggots.

>>720057829
They should do PO. The actual most important game despite not being canon or made by Kojima. PW and V are just evolution of those ideas and even the story.

>>720078461
>KOJIMA WHERE'S MY PAZ SEX SIMULATOR AAAAAAAAAAA

This, but unironically.

>>720079412
>survive a bomb blast with 108 shrapnels
>eat rockets like you are not even a man but one of the Metal Gears
Venom was one tough soldier

>>720076941
no it isn't

i don't know what you guys are talking about, but there's zero evidence of a peace walker remake. At best we'll get a "remastered" or a port and that's all

retards

>>720080235
He even runs super fast like in TPP

>>720080131
>and even the story
PO's story got cut and pasted into MGS4's third act.

>>720068305
his having mutipal heart attacks standing next to snek

>>720047057
nigger

>>720074640
>overreacting and bitching

No thanks homo

>>720064612
That wasnt Big Boss in 1

>>720080235
I can shoot multiple rockets at any boss and they don’t immediately die either. This narrative is retarded

>>720082304
Considering how the real BB is defeated Venom can clearly endure much more

The only Metal Gear game I ever finished was 5 and I'm fine keeping it that way.
Matter of fact, I might play it again.

>>720082473
Big Boss lost because he was canonically too powerful to be beaten one on one. Snake was told to run from him because they thought he was a cyborg who would just kill snake. Snake had to literally burn him alive with stealth

>>720082703
If you like that game then you should get delta. Its v with a better story and you dont have to run 10 minutes between every outpost

>>720082940
truke, delta finally put V's gameplay in a good game

>>720082859
Snake had to run find a makeshift weapon because he didn't have any weapons or gear left. He wasn't like a super invincible cyborg or anything like that, how can he be when some hairspray and a lighter can take him out.

>>720083178
How the fuck does getting set on fire mean that you cant be OP? Its fucking fire.

And thats literally what happens in mg2. The codec call you get during the boss fight literally says you cant beat him with your fists and one of the guys helping snake say Snake became a cyborg after mg1 and he is too op. That was the reasoning behind his upgrade before v

The psychological shift 100%ing Phantom Pain induces in the player could have literally lead to a world conquering regime change if properly utilized and orchestrated.

An entire civilization of Big Bosses.

Is it time to make Father Base?

>>720083421
Nigga are you high or just retarded?

>>720084181
Not an argument “nigga”

>>720083889
Eren = big boss

>>720076808
>chip damaging shitty anime robots IS FUCKING ABYSMALL
you're supposed to upgrade your weapons anon.

>>720050694
play slowly.
learn the game.
then replay endlessly because there's quite a lot of things you can do to succeed.
that's why MGS is addicting for me, it's like a sandbox game but with sneaking

>>720045938
They're equal. The originals were already fantastic games that both had ports to modern systems and great mods that perfect those ports.

bamp

>>720077126
tranqs killed the series

>>720089349
I agree, but kojima didn't like killing in his anti-war games, Which is why MGS1 is the best

>>720077126
>>720089349
>>720090052
After finishing MGSV I unironically couldn't play Sniper Elite IV because it way too violent. Kojimbo was right.

>>720055219
>I like the slower pace compared to MGSV,
Why is it always, ALWAYS the V babbies?
Seriously, V was an absolute Ubishit. Wannabe Far Cry 3 type of trash.

>it's like the Devs balanced the whole game around tranq headshotting your way around.
Haven't played Delta, but with the OTS and the idiotic enemy awareness indicators being a thing and BREAKING THE GAME, I can only see it being easier.

Protip: classic MGS is about AVOIDING enemies altogether, NOT engaging them.

>want to reply V again
>remember that there is an actual Facebook tier "wait 5 days to develop item" mechanic
FUUUUUUCK THAT

>>720075820
>It doesn't compare very well to old Metal Gear, its just a fully realized Peace Walker and I thought Peace Walker was meh.
Fuck off.
Peace Walker is one of the top-3 MGS games, and TPP is a terrible, unfinished husk that plays like any modern Ubishit OW title.

>>720082304
>>720080235
>That wasnt Big Boss in 1
Yes, it always was.
This Venom-shit is literal zoom zoom headcanon retcon.

Zoomers have no idea who this is.

>>720091768
David bowie?

>>720058769
Metal Gear Solid was never good. Rising was the least nefarious of them.

>>720082181
While i do agree that's a lot of autism, he's right, this one looks like a cheap chinese knockoff.

>>720090052
that's exactly why tranqs killed it, you get to have your cake and eat it too

>>720092498
What does that even mean?

>>720091402
The opening is the biggest issue. It takes an hour to actually get to play

>>720045938
I am literally playing through OG DS1 right now, and while the port to PC is a bit rough, the core game really holds up still. I can't imagine playing the same game where they butcher the atmosphere and make Issac talk.

>>720091103
>Why is it always, ALWAYS the V babbies?
I played almost every game on the franchise, i comparing the gameplay to MGSV because it is the most recent in the series and somewhat similar gameplay angle.
>Haven't played Delta
Then don't even reply nigger
>OTS and the idiotic enemy awareness indicators being a thing and BREAKING THE GAME, I can only see it being easier.
Far from it, unless you play baby easy difficulty modes, the only thing that is easier is maybe boss fights where you can aim faster but the impact on sneaking is very little, by the way No HUD was the correct way to play MGSV.
>Protip: classic MGS is about AVOIDING enemies altogether, NOT engaging them.
The thing is Delta Extreme is unironically overtuned for that type of gameplay, it's saner to cheese it with tranqs.

i never understood why kojimbo went so on the nose with you actually playing venom especially in the beginning with you choosing your character and they show you his not big boss face
they could have done this entire thing way better
and just have real big boss not say a fucking word to you in the hospital escape leaving it more ambigious and completely cut out everything before the actual gameplay leaving it in the trailers

>>720057675
Imagine if we get MGS V revisited edition by Konami. That would be great.

>>720057675
They should do a Crisis Core Reunion for Peace Walker and with actual cutscenes

>>720094987
No. No. FUCK YOU. No.

>>720045938
This, probably REm4ke is better than the original.

>>720095251
Your game opinions are now invalidated

>>720050694
You have to understand how the enemy works more than anything. Then you can start finding holes in what they do.

I honestly like the AutoSave addition here because I get to replay areas in different ways if I'm bored or not. I Foxhounded OG MGS 3 a bunch of times, but this time was far more satisfying and smoother than others because I could really play and area and see what does and doesn't work rather than just autopiloting to some gay speedrun strat.

>>720073894
They changed the face buttons ofr some stupid reason, but you can just change them to PW settings.

>>720045883 (OP)
Nah. This game is actually replayable. Problem with V is you put 200 hours in once and then you don’t play it again. Also the story is much better, refined and the ending half is actually amazing in MGS3. I will say you can complete missions many different ways in V and it is a great game but I do prefer MGS linearity especially when it comes to story. I’m probably going to jump back into V soon though.

>>720095091
Yes fuck yes

>>720095251
>This, probably REm4ke is better than the original .

The release of Delta makes me realize I’m old now. I don’t care about playing new games I just wanna play the games I liked the most as a kid. I sank 30 hours into Delta in the past week, I haven’t done that for a video game in a while.

>>720094169
Kojima's sincerely one of the biggest hacks in gaming. All his twists are just stupidly contrived to make up for his lack of decent storytelling.

I made this comparison the other day but him and george lucas have the same problem, they're both not good outside of being the ideas guys

>>720097193
Nice hot take fag boy I haven’t heard this one a million times. Are you going to spew your Reddit letter media take on the prequels now?

>>720047337
First 2d grill I fapped to

>>720045938
this one. at least RE4 is more distinctly different making it a more unique experience, delta is just a port of MGS3D with fast camo swapping

>>720097479
I dont know anon, its just really hard not to notice the similarities they share when they put their foot in their mouths.

>>720045883 (OP)
Fuck off retard

>>720046832
No, they completely fucked up the gameplay in MGS3 too.

>>720045938
>Which remake was more unnecessary

>>720097704
They’re both great, not everything needs to be perfectly encapsulated in reason with plot details. Kojima does a good job working with the Information age, asspulls and conspiracy is what makes it good. You never know what’s really going on.

>>720050694
crawl everywhere
find a patch of grass, lean up (does delta even let you do this?) out of the grass and headshot everyone with the tranq pistol and you'll get through the entire game without getting seen

>>720057630
let it go man, is been 9 years already

is MGS3D any good? Would be playing on my N3DSXL, I know it had performance issues on O3DS but I never bothered to see how it plays on the newer hardware

>>720097921
Look I'll be honest and level with you. He's talented, they both really are, but ultimately they shouldn't have full creative control because its disasterous.

>>720098156
https://youtu.be/GLTIlgPysQ4?t=81
not sure if he's running it on but it seems to run okay but the graphics are smeared to hell and back

>>720047221
and then go on to make the alts look like this for street fighter. wish the RE team had as muhc balls as the SF team

>>720098902
framerate is way too smooth, that's emulated for sure

The repeating words in MGS1 Is probably the worst, I’m playing it now and Snake has done it like 10 times in the scene with the DARPA chief alone kek.

>>720046742
Only Chaos Theory is on par desu.
And the game suffers from the peculiar issue that it gets worse as it progresses, with more and more scripted set pieces and weaker levels.
Still a fantastic gaem though.

if you ever feel useless just remember the game gives you cold medicine

>>720098952
They clearly don't, because every single girl from the base game bar Juri is some uncanny jeet-made goblina.
That wave of costumes, paid ones at that, are the first instance of the girls not looking like DEI goblins.

>>720046012
4 is great.

>>720099489
dont you randomly fucking sneeze as well

>>720103808
yeah just like in 2, it's pretty much random when you sneeze

>>720077452
Ac!d 1 story is amazing, 2 is pretty weak storywise
Gameplay of Ac!d 2 is much better than 1 though beacuse doors open before you as you enter instead of having to wait an entire action.
They're a stealth deck builder tactics game.
"Active Command intelligence duel"

Story of Ac!d 1 takes place in an alternative bright future of 2016 where MGS4 didn't happen.
Story of Ac!d 2 is forgettable, takes place sometime after Ac!d 1, play it yourself.
Protip: disable card animations because PPSSPP crashes after the first one animation of the emulator bootup is played during gameplay.
Also, play Ac!d 1 first because there's a save import function.

>>720077947
Because big boss recruiting his first child soldier, getting his first metal gear, and first nuke already happened in Peace Walker you didn't play because you're a troglodyte amerimutt who doesn't even have public safety that would allow you to play PSP on public transport without getting murdered for the game console.

>>720055219
>shitty controls
honestly just a skill issue

CQC from a wall would be cool but MGS V CQC is almost hilariously broken at times

yeah the confined spaces make it so you have to watch the guard patrol pattern

the camo index is more important and knowing where the blindspots are for guards is something you have to get a feel for

>>720107274
>crashes after the first one animation of the emulator bootup is played during gameplay.
you mean there's a specific one that crashes or the second one does?

>>720107605
Certain cards play an extra animation when activated, be it a MGS cutscene or a gravure shoot, the playback only works the first time (content is irrelevant).
Replaying them from the extras menu works IIRC
the second time you play a card with an animation the emulator will crash, first one you're safe.

>>720045883 (OP)
>V was better.
I've played through every MGS including Peace Walker, and V isn't even a top 3 MGS game. You got shit taste if MGS3 isn't at least 1/2 in your rankings.

>>720108681
3 is only good for you because you only remember the good parts. Play the remake and you will see half of it is just dumb bullshit that makes no sense.

>>720110043
filtered. I replayed MGS3 two weeks ago in anticipation for delta.

>>720057580
>he only talks when he has something meaningful to say. Like the Big Boss should.
>people idealize the fiction of big boss more than the man himself
kojimbo was a genius

TPP IS SHIT without modifying guard detection radius to see past 25m
It's amusing every game /v/ loves is casualfag baby shit that just lets you win by participating
Don't even @ me with God Hand you shitters just use busted moves and spam uppercuts and roundhouse

>>720045883 (OP)
holy shit delta hashorrible sounding some sound effects like walking are too quiet

>>720111080
The radio calls are all fuck and sound like they were re-recorded onto NES audio chip.

>>720045883 (OP)
Big boss is the strongest snake btw

>>720045938
Going to repeat what everyone has said already. RE4 was unnecessary and changed the entire game from top to bottom. MGS3 is largely faithful and it being playable on PC now is a huge upgrade.

>>720047057
>>720047164
What was your favorite mission in V? I think for me it was rescue the captured soldier 4, maybe retrieve Intel 5?

>the boss's grapple changed to a command grab that activates when she's a meter away from you
>major of course says to counter "the moment she starts her attack" just like before
>If you press the attack button BEFORE her invisible grapple field reaches you it is a hard counter.
>Spend 30 mins trying to do only that thinking it was the only way to CQC her. Only by accident do I realize her command grab animation has chances to counter periodically
Wildly dogshit design. Sneaking up on her is also completely random whether she notices you/whether the cqc button shows up/whether it triggers even if you hit it while it's showing. Stupid fucking indian trash game that I'm glad I didn't spend a cent to play.

>>720112819
>in retreive intel 5 they subvert your expectations and the soviet intel file in Africa has Kaz's image mirrored
Kojima did it again.
But for me, fultoning a guy in the desert was the highlight of the game for me.

>>720046832
>RE4 they actually remade the whole thing
the irony of this statement when the topic is about remakes. The one that is actually more of a remake is somehow worse
How did we get here? Imagine discussing The Thing with people like you. "It sucks because it wasn't a 1:1 recreation of the original 50s movie"

>>720112819
There are alot, but for me it probably was the Code talker mission in the mansion, just getting there and then infiltrating the giant mansion, and then getting out of there, there will never be and never was something like that in a video game ever.

>>720046665
>Retard
Yes you are

>>720075820
Retard, V is a unrealized PW.

3 has the sorrow bossfight, which automatically makes it impossible to be the best one.

>>720115973
Yeah, it's no where near as good as the fortune bossfight in 2.

>>720045883 (OP)
mgs3 story with mgs5 gameplay (large sandbox areas) would be perfect