Thread 720057981

Would things really have been so different if he was there?

Sea Robber is a pirate, the natural enemy of cowboys

Genoslide Clover would job out the gay skeleton but Cody Green would HEEM Cloveretty clean.

Alright, what's with the "Cody" posting?

>>720057981 (OP)
no he doesn't give a shit unless the world is about to end

>>720058589
I want to know as well

>>720057981 (OP)
He's on his way

>>720058827
How are there no edits of him in Deltarune when King literally calls you a lightbringer.

I didn't get to save those drawanons postings of the sleeping martlet

>>720059694
Go to arch.b4k.dev

>>720059725
thank you, the site I though archives had died

>>720058589
It's the ORIGINAL Undertale prequel.

>>720058589
>>720058679
Yellow wishes it had a genoslide this powerful.

>>720060045
Gersonbros...

>>720060179
Thats not Gerson, that guy even appears on Yellow as a cameo

>>720059694
Ah, gimme a sec, I'll post the original drawings here without the catbox stuff.
Alright, here's the one of DRY Martlet passed out.

>>720060312
And here's the one of DRY1 Cole in the RDR2 cover.

>>720057981 (OP)
I thought that the gimmick was that everybody jobs to the meme skeleton

>>720060379
>>720060312
glorious, thank you anon

>>720060495
'Course, I'm glad people seemed to like these.

>>720060379
peak

reminder that ceroba is fat

>>720060979
Flat*

>>720060979
i made her fat
>>720061097
i used my going into games machine to check this and i can debunk this, not only is she not flat but martlet's "breasts" are just feathers, it's over for you

>>720061185
>going into games machine
The ancient magics...

>>720061185
I used MY going into games machine and Martlet had fatter tittes than even we believed. Must be a fun value event.

>>720061185
jokes on you I'm into modest tits

>>720058178
Frisk should be on the female wrestling class.

never thought Ed would end up being the smartest person in this game

>>720061649
good, because they both have perfectly modest tits
>>720061530
must be a real rare one as i even swapped between a bunch of savefiles to confirm

>>720057981 (OP)
Clover would've jobbed horrifically

>>720063269
I dont think clovers supposed to be fighting sans in this scenario. isn't this drawn from the end scene of mgs4?

>>720063383
in fact I just read the filename, sans would be there to stop clover from killing himself in this scenario if anything

>>720058178
Shu mogs both.

>>720057981 (OP)
He wouldn't have done anything, max LOVE Clover isn't literally ending the universe.

>>720063269
Clovers reaches lv 20 before reaching judgment hall and he has an attack of six consecutive shoots. The 3rd rate comedian doesn't stand a chance.

>>720063383
Yes, that was the joke when I originally made the two images, however many months back.
Here's the first one.

>>720063505
go back

>>720063764
>he has an attack of six consecutive shoots
There's a weapon in UT with multiple hits too, and it's not any more effective against Sans than the knife is.

Why does everyone get so mad about the idea of Sans making a cameo in UTY, even just as small as the devs suggested like him appearing in the saloon? I like it, if anything it helps tie UTY back to the original UT universe and show the two worlds are connected.

>>720063764
Once Clover gains the ability to save and load, Sans has no chance of victory. It doesn't matter how big the power gap between them is, eventually Clover will win.

>>720064596
due to deltarune we dont know how long sans has been in the underground before the events of UT
and skeleton fatigue is a real thing

>>720064596
Skeleton fatigue

>>720064596
An entire decade of the fandom obssessing with Sans and only Sans gave us all skeleton fatigue

If Flowey were to possess a character in the UTY timeline like on those old undertale AUs who would he choose? Martlet for sheer strength, Ceroba for strength+potential cooperation, Starlo just to bully and torture him?
>>720059694
I haven't been here in a while, but it's sad that after all this time there's still no booru, I saved a couple of catbox sketches but I'm sure there's a fuckton of drawings just floating around in the archives waiting for a brave anon to catalogue them

>>720064596
>Clovers reaches lv 20 before reaching judgment hall and he has an attack of six consecutive shoots
sans dodges bullets 23+ times in a row from someone with a way, way stronger determination gun
>but it isn't multi hit
tough glove is way more hits and he dodges that too

>>720057981 (OP)
Had an idea for Deltatraveler Yellow. What if, instead of traveling to other games, Kanako and Cole traveled specifically to fangames. Not just Undertale and Deltarune fangames, but fangames in general.

Of course one of those fangames would be UTY, but then they could go to a Tohou fangame, a FNaF fangame, a Sonic fangame, and then end it with them returning to DRY, but its actually DRY2 (or another DRY variant) instead of their home universe.

Thoughts?

>>720065418
I really think there needs to be an Undertale booru

>>720063764
see >>720065481

>>720057981 (OP)
I thought that was Linkara

>>720065481
Frisk isn't shooting the empty gun, he's pistol whipping people with it.

>>720065586
This is still a moot argument because jaundice Clover can save and load. Its impossible for Sans to win against him.

Asking some feedback questions again since I'd like more responses.

How much importance do you place on:
- Borders and/or integer scaling
- Unlocked FPS

As it stands, I need to do some hacky workarounds to implement some of these, so I'm wondering what's considered important enough to bother with.

>>720065418
>it's sad that after all this time there's still no booru
There actually is apparently, linked to in the header posts of all the recent /UTG/s on /vg/. It's still in it's infancy last I checked, but it's there.

>>720065573
0 importance

>>720065665
>holding an empty gun causes frisk to pistol whip specifically 4 times and puts so much DT in it that save point symbols appears
how the FUARK is sans dodging this

>>720065665
I am pretty sure that the sprite files for it says it's determination bullets that she shoots.

>>720065946
doesn't it appear only when you land every shoot perfectly

>>720065481
Clover can attack during Sans's turn, the skeleton gets fraudchecked

>>720065806
Why don't we use it then? I know utg is a shithole, but we don't have to interact with its users to use the image archive.

>resetting god vs. (character here)
Boring.
Here's a better question. Who wins?

>>720057981 (OP)
Newfag here, liked Undertale but didn't play Deltarune. Sell me on Undertale Yellow.

>>720066205
it's free if you ever find yourself with nothing better to do

>>720065790
>- Borders and/or integer scaling
Integer scaling is important but we can live without borders, original UT didn't habe them
- Unlocked FPS
Isn't Undertale locked to 30 fps? I don't think this would change too much, if its hard to implement I wouldn't bother with it

>>720064596
It's pointless fan service that serves no story purpose. Alphys appearance on the other hand is well done.

>>720066193
Undyne out stats her heavily, it's a slaughter.

>>720065790
>- Borders and/or integer scaling
I don't care about integer scaling that much, but I hate black borders. Personally, I like exclusive fullscreen since it just forces my monitor to display natively at the game's resolution. Though that does mean you need to add a way adjust refresh rate, since otherwise it'll default to 60hz flicker vision.
>Unlocked fps
I'm neutral on it. All I care about is refresh rate, which I need to be able to set higher than 60hz.

>>720066193
Martlet is mich stronger, has way harder bullet patterns and she can block the FIGHT button
How is this even a question?

>>720066418
Undyne outstats her but martlet attacks with insanely amped up intensity. I dont buy the hp numbers for undyne based on attacks going back to "normal" afterwards

>>720065997
Can you post any proof of this?

>>720066116
I dunno, I'm just drawing attention to it.

>>720066193
Undying mogs Zartlet. Would be a cool fight though.

>>720066418
I feel like stats aren't really indicative of much when it comes to UT. Like, Frisk does massive damage per hit against Undyne the Undying, but then their damage goes relatively back to normal once they start fighting the standard enemies in hotland.

>>720066205
I was in the same boat as you. I finished it like a week ago and it was a very enjoyable but it left me wanting more

>>720066205
Yellow is massively flawed but every moment oozes the soul and passion of a bunch of fools that got together and spent 7 years of their life on a fangame for something that meant a lot to them. the good ends up shining through because of that.

>>720066205
better gameplay than undertale (in both battles and overworld)
music so good it lives up to toby fox at moments
the story is... serviceable
setting expands on the underground in a believable way
characters are too traditionally anthro instead of undertale style freaks so it's a downside/upside depending on how much of a furry you are, they have fun dynamics though

>>720066521
>>720066501
>>720066418
Based on this it seems like Undyne is a tank focused on fewer but harder hitting attacks, while Zartlet focuses on volume of fire resulting in a higher overall damage output, despite her lower stats overall. Zartlet still has much lower HP and DF even if her patterns make up for her lower damage.

>>720066501
>Martlet is mich stronger
wrong, both physically and stats-wise
>has way harder bullet patterns
undyne literally tanks through all of it
>she can block the FIGHT button
1. FIGHT button isnt canon to monsters, several examples of frisk being attacked out of combat
2. thats only because clovers regular bullets is like axis's trashcan, it doesnt do anything to her armor
the moment she loses the chest plate, you're given the choice to shoot her with regular bullets again
undyne obviously hits harder than clover's regular bullets

>>720066703
>but then their damage goes relatively back to normal
intent, papyrus/toriel/sans/mettaton NEO/undyne/asgore > shitters in hotland

>>720067000
Im skeptical on the HP because again the numbers seem to just "be what they want to be" considering you stop doing insane numbers immediately after her fight, at the very least DF is a meaningless stat in the game

>>720066193
Roids all the way. It's pure concentrated determination that somehow doesn't turn her immediately in an amalgamate.

>>720066095
if you dont perfectly land every shot, its just white instead

>>720067159
how tf did you get the gun before hotland

>>720067037
You have to remember that Undertale's stats are all fake. Undyne's real AT is 12 and her real DF is 5. Meanwhile Zartlet's high stats are real.

>>720067095
>considering you stop doing insane numbers immediately after her fight
It shoots back up the moment you go vs. actual relevant monsters. Frisk should be able to kill sans with a mere 1 damage yet goes straight for the 9999999s.

>>720066407
Alphys was mentioned like once in a note in the Ketsukane house.

>>720066570
Sorry, I just heard about it. Closest thing is the trivia section in the wiki.
https://undertale.wiki/w/Empty_Gun
You just have to trust me, bro.

>>720067095
Curiously enough, Undyne's HP is the only real stat she has. Everything else is fake though.

>>720067331
that makes me think even more that stats are just an abstraction for plot extremeness, and that abstraction is probably more "real" in the game world than the stat itself

>>720067396
She also appears in one of the flashback sequences during Zenith Martlets fight, as part of the scene where we learn how Martlet got the DT syringe.

>>720067310
>Undertale's stats are all fake
being scripted in the files ≠ "actual stats"
the stats we see in game are seen in game for the simple reason of toby wanting us to see them, only UTY's is used as-is for calculations

>>720067396
she appears in Zartlet's flashback

>>720067095
You can "real hit" Undyne on True Pacifist and it will always do 1 damage. That's just up to what Frisk feels like doing.

>>720067037
>wrong, both physically and stats-wise
No, UTY uses the actual in game stats, Undertale uses "lore" stats, it makes no sense for Zartlet to be that weak from a narrative perspective, otherwise we have to believe that Muffet and Knight Knight solo the enterity of UTY

>>720067401
I do like the idea that Frisk's will to murder is so high that the monsters are still damaged as they were shot with bullets, despite the gun being empty. I like that better than it being literal bullets made of DT. This way its just the logical continuation of murderous intent turning a rubber toy knife into a blade that can slash a grown woman in half.

>>720067487
Maybe Frisk is just guessing stars based on how strong the monsters look, and he doesn't actually know their real stats.

>>720067550
In a normal game I'd be inclined to agree, but this is a game where data mining and the player's influence are canon. Even if Toby didn't intend it, those "real" stats are included in the same place canon stuff like Gaster's audio files are, so we can take them into consideration.

>>720067695
UTY using actual calculations that lines up with what is seen in-game, doesn't mean comparatively the stats Toby specifically meant to show us in-game is meant to be taken as incorrect. Toby being a shit coder isn't a counterargument to the stats he wanted us to see.

Zartlet/UTY's monster gallery isn't weak, UT's monsters are just strong in comparison.

>>720067724
I actually think Frisk being such a freak child that she can fire determination as if it were KI blasts as the much cooler option, but that's just preferences.

>>720068005
And the "Zenith of Monsterkind" is weaker than some randoms Mettaton hired to mug you?

>>720068005
nonsense, the fight with zartlet tears up the area around it, and us being able to see those other stats means theres likely some implication to it that toby wanted us to see through datamining because he knew people would be datamining, the unseen stats are at the very least, just as real as the seen stats, if not moreso since they actually determine the calculations and results of actions.

>>720068027
I see DT as being reality warping rather than conventional physical magic, which is a monster thing. DT doesn't have a physical thing you see, it just causes an effect to happen.

>>720067962
>so we can take them into consideration
They're used for calculations and calculations alone. I have no reason to believe Toby gave us actual tangible stats seen in game, for us to simply disregard them despite making perfect sense in every context.

>>720068217
>>720068356
further more I can definitely see him putting stats that dont mean anything in the check menus on purpose because toby has been obsessed with conventional rpg mechanics and their purposes for decades. Why wouldn't he throw stats that the meaning of is to mean nothing when he's been poking at the genre for so long?

>>720068251
DT can literally be a physical thing as seen with the last dream item in the Asriel fight. It being able to make fake energy bullets is raw.

I really want to write a fic based on UTY but its story is so self-contained that it leaves little room to build upon

>>720068103
to be fair they don't look like complete pushovers

>>720068871
no pushovers but that thing isn't beating zenith and its a silly argument to say it will.

>>720068497
I took last dream as you dreaming of food and it appearing in your inventory. It can make physical things, but it isn't actually the determination you're eating.

And besides I just like the the idea of Frisk pointing a gun at people and holes appearing in them.

>>720068217
>>720068421
>the unseen stats are at the very least, just as real as the seen stats, if not moreso since they actually determine the calculations and results of actions.
finding gaster's stats, 666 everything, because its not used in actual any calculations, is what toby wants people to see when datamining

thinking "man going off these stats? asgore has less defense than literally everyone in the game, and asriel's best attacks are weaker than asgores" is not what he intended, especially since the stats given are 99% inline with what we know in undertale. it is purely for calculation purposes and not "BUT WHAT IF (fangame character with a completely different system) HAD TO FIGHT UNDYNE? THEY MUST BE ALL WRONG IN THAT CASE"

>>720069126
>is not what he intended
horse shit, Asgore doesn't want to fight and in some endings would prefer dying, Asriel is toying with you (as shown that he has the power to one shot you even with 6 souls). That all lines up

>>720068356
Regardless of what Toby meant, they are there in the same place as ither canon material, and we're specifically discussing a battle with a fanon character who does use real stats instead of fake ones.

I suppose you can say those silly stats in UT are for real, and everyone one in UTY jobs to random unnamed hotland enemy #3. Or you can have fun with it and do both stories a favor by saying the stats in UT are wrong because Frisk is a kid who's bad at gauging people's strength.

>>720069010
A Migosp is as much as a power house as a Knight Knight in UT going off of the stats in the files. That sure as shit isn't Toby's intention. UTY, a non-canon fangame fucking up and making Zartlet comparable to him and Muffet, because they decided to have ingame stats be 1:1 with the scripted stats, doesn't mean the way Toby did it is now deemed wrong and incorrect.

>>720069112
Yeah, and I like the idea of Frisk thinking of bullets and then they manifesting. It's all about taste.

>>720069126
>asgore has less defense than literally everyone in the game
Makes sense to me. Asgore is trying to commit suicide by combat there. And Mettaton Neo has lower DF.
>and asriel's best attacks are weaker than asgores"
Your determination made his attacks weaker and he really didn't want to kill you. I think all the attack stats depend just as much on the person getting attacked as they do on the attacker.

>>720069607
knight knight is higher attack, and if anything it illustrates that monsters on average aren't as powerful as they appear. something like knight knight seems super dangerous and strong but the truth is that its only a little more damaging than "beginner" monsters. this seems to actually line up exactly with the kind of thing that toby would be trying to show behind the numbers. its even in line with humans falsely believing that monsters are a threat when the reality is this "36 attack monster" is actually an 8 attack weaker than a child.

>>720069607
Then maybe we should take all the stats with a heavy grain of salt, and focus more on how strong the narrative and fight imply they are.

>>720068829
come here kid

>>720069691
That seems more like that should be what Clover is doing, since it matches up with his mechanics better, and since being a cowboy larper, he would know more about guns and be more concerned with them working properly. Frisk doesn't care about guns beyond the result they achieve, which is a whole in his enemy's chest.

>>720070013
Yes, but Clover's entire thing isn't determination and the game gives him ammo. I just like save star points being actual energy bullets she can fire, that's all.

>>720070120
I dont think there's anything wrong with the idea there, but I've always just assumed frisk was slapping the shit out of stuff with the gun itself.

>>720070165
That's fine. It's all about taste, anon. It's vague enough that it works.

>>720070328
You're actually talking to 2 different people now.

>>720070407
Okay. Doesn't change my point of difference interpretations and all.

>>720069374>>720069374
>Regardless of what Toby meant, they are there in the same place as ither canon material
toby's intention is all that matters on whether to accept the stats he shows us as canon to UT or not
nobody for the past decade takes this any other way until it has to interact with a noncanon fangame that operates on a different system entirely
meanwhile, going off your interpretation of the stats, base mettaton clears practically everyone in UT/UTY due to his insane HP/defense

>>720070580
he IS a monster inside of a metal shell, probably makes him pretty tough, and he's probably very willing to hurt people based on everything we see of him so its easy to hurt, easy to avoid being hurt and that whole spiel. UTY obviously did its own things with the stats, but there's been several very reasonable suggestions just taking undertale into consideration by itself as to why the stat differences may actually exist for a reason.

>>720068829
I wish you could kill her in the vengeance route

>>720069369
>>720069698
Several other characters scripted to die in one hit (toriel, muffet, mettaton neo) with a much better reason to kill you has defenses far into the negatives. It isn't because "oh yeah I want the genocidal human to super kill me, these are my canon stats at this moment btw and yes it only makes sense if I had to fight a fangame character", it's because that's just how the game works under the hood.

>>720070580
>going off your interpretation of the stats, base mettaton clears practically everyone in UT/UTY due to his insane HP/defense
I agree with this. Base Mettaton is invincible, only maybe losing against genocide route Frisk and Asriel.
>toby's intention is all that matters on whether to accept the stats he shows us as canon to UT or not
Death of the author. If what's in the game contradicts his intent then what's in the game comes first. I'll go a step further and say that if it makes for a better narrative and can be fit into the game's story based on evidence from the game, then it should be treated as true as well.

People vastly overvalue canon and artist's intent as concepts.

>nobody for the past decade takes this any other way until it has to interact with a noncanon fangame that operates on a different system entirely
I did before I even knew about UTY.

>>720070858
>as to why the stat differences may actually exist for a reason.
the reason is that it's done for the damage calculations
for some reason you're implying its done because toby used his future sight to predict that a fangame might possibly contradict the stats he shows us ingame and planned ahead (while simultaneously still using it for the exact damage calculations)

>>720070938
or again, independent of fangames, it shows that monsters despite all of these fluffed up "check stats" are actually fucking pushovers and the reality (which we already know) is that they dont stand a chance against humanity, and humanity lashed out against monsters that in reality have stats beneath a childs, and that monsters crumple almost universally when faced with overwhelming force and killing intent (also already told to us in the librarby) and for all of their stats and power levels and differing strengths and abilities the end result is they can't do shit.
>>720071143
>future sight
are you just trying to be disingenuous? Toby did his thing completely independent of what fangames would exist and how they would code their stats and when you look at the stats toby did it clearly tells a story about monsterkind in a "expectations vs reality" manner. Tobys design is unrelated to the fangame, but when talking ABOUT the fangame this has implications about that seperate discussion because the devs of uty clearly didn't do the stat seperation, something simple that was clearly not required unless toby wanted the stats to be different for some reason.

>>720070938
Toriel takes super damage because you catch her off guard with how badly you want to kill her, Mettaton Neo is just a shit design, and Muffet wasn't expecting you to hit that hard.

>>720071143
It has nothing to do with fangames. All Toby had to predict was that people would datamine his game, which he did. That's why the code and files are full of secrets that dataminers are meant to find.

>>720071390
How was Muffet not expecting it? Alphys told her the human had ethnically cleansed the Ruins, Snowdin and Waterfall.

>>720071390
>yeah this human rips spider's legs off
>oh man thanks for telling me, i have to be on guard
>drops guard on genocide for some reason
what?

>>720071691
how can anyone whos never met a human before expect that level of killing intent, something unmatched by monsters

>>720071762
how does your defense lower to -800
is it
>yeah this guy has been killing literally everyone, way worse than what i heard in pacifist. better lower my defense to -800 comparatively
or
>i am scripted to die in one hit no matter what you do

>>720071691
Why else would she jam the door open and wait to ambush you, despite the warning. She genuinely thought everyone else was weak and stupid, and she was going to trap and kill you easily. Just look at her smug attitude, that is not the attitude of a person who knows they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of surviving.

>>720071956
like I said before in another post, when faced with unimaginable killing intent their defences crumple. I imagine someone going in thinking its going to be fine they're going to handle this human and the humans arms are like getting hit by tank shells, any strength you have to resist that is evaporated by the very attack thats wiping you out.

>shitty fanfic spawned its own sect of secondary retards who never played undertale
>still spamming the board 24/7 over two years later
please fuck off to /vg/ already

>>720071956
Her defense was lower because Frisk was so much stronger than she expected. The attack being that strong caught her off guard, and sent her DF to -500.

>>720072136
>nothing but discussion that implies in depth knowledge of the original and the fan fiction game
oh no we're discussing video games while not breaking the general rule how terrible!

>>720071964
nvm that does make a lot sense

>>720071382
>something simple that was clearly not required unless toby wanted the stats to be different for some reason.
This isn't "something simple" for Toby. His code is (understandably) abysmal if you ever looked. Having stats separated because the ones he needed for calculations and the ones he intended you to think they have, not lining up, is the easiest solution. There is ZERO narrative significance to thinking the stats under the hood are actually meant to be taken as fact.

>>720072136
>imagine talking about a video game on /v/

unthinkable

>>720072247
To add to that, she probably thought she was hot shit because she's killed a few weak monsters, got a few LVs, and let it go to her head.

>>720072320
>is the easiest solution.
its not when we know for a fact that he hid things in the code for people to find despite his known abysmal coding skill. It lines up with the kind of autism he held himself to despite the fact that he put undertale together with tape and bubble gum. Especially when it narratively lines up with several facts we have about the world.

>>720072136
>Deltarune thread was deleted but this one wasn't.

>>720072708
well it does help that this isn't a /vg/ thread

>>720072320
Nta, but even if he didn't intend for you to think about the real stats, he also didn't intend for you to think too hard about the fake stats either, since they have no bearing on gameplay.

By comparing stats at all, we're moving outside the realm of developer intentions. That's made doubly true by the fact that we're comparing Undyne against a character from a different game whose stats are counted a different way. There is no clean and canon compliant way to compare their stats. So at this point all we have left are feelings, ideas, and fanon.

>>720072708
The Deltarune threads have basically turned into diet /utg/ at this point. Though I blame that on Abib discouraging all but the most autistic shitposters with his personal war.

>>720072496
>its not when we know for a fact that he hid things in the code for people to find despite his known abysmal coding skill
"in the code" ...Like what? This is Undertale, not Deltarune.
Gaster's stats is the only piece of information you can extract from these stats in particular, because you don't actually fight gaster in the first place. Anything else is mostly Toby chastising dataminers. I don't consider Chara being referred to "murderboy" because it's in the code, nor do I believe Toby wants me to theorize that they're a boy or not because of it.

>>720072708
it will just like the previous UTY thread

I think Zartlet should scale closer to Undying because that makes for a better story.

>>720072789
>Nta, but even if he didn't intend for you to think about the real stats, he also didn't intend for you to think too hard about the fake stats either
temmie's stats being TEM outta TEM and glyde's being HIGH is an example of "toby doesnt want me to think too hard about this"
undyne becoming by far the strongest monster from her determination powerup, getting 99ATK/99DEF, and being the hardest fight in the underground among the monsters that are native to the world? i think toby wants me to think shes the strongest monster in the underground, despite the stats that are used purely for calculations contradicting this.

>>720072890
You're saying in the 2 year old Yellow general with the same handful people.

>>720072708
the avatarfagging cancer ruined deltarune threads

>>720073697
A general is a state of mind, not the state of being a recurring thread. It takes a level of mental illness we haven't yet reached to be a general. The Deltarune threads, by contrast, are slow as shit abd the only posters left are Charafags and Friskfags. Once its only them left, the thread is the beginning of a general.

>>720074034
Didn't these threads have literal redditors?

>>720073687
Zartlet is also strongly implied to be the strongest monster by her name and description. If you're the Zenith then nothing is above you.

Granted UTY on average is meant to scale lower than UT, and Undying didn't exist at that point in the timeline, but I think that at least makes them comparable.

>>720074067
>It takes a level of mental illness we haven't yet reached
I've seen unironic Shufags here, and in the thread on /vrpg/. No need to pretend that the only reason we're here is that whatever Janny/Mod didn't put UTY on their shitlist. It isn't a competition.

>>720073697
this isn't a general, a general is a very specific "problem" that existed on the site before /vg/ was made. back then it was normal to have a thread a few times in a row a week and then not discuss anything for a bit so that the discussion did not get run down to the point of personality cult nonsense. when making the /vg/ rule they explicitly added the part that threads could still be made about games because having occasional threads was the opposite of the problem that caused /vg/ to get made

>>720074190
yes and they ruined these threads when they were here
it seems telling them to fuck off worked for the time being though

>>720074067
Aren't these threads threads same with Martlet and Cerobafags?

>>720074309
people having shit taste is also not a qualifier to make something a general.

>>720074309
Shuposting is not nearly as bad as the tamesr shit that goes on in utg

>>720074409
This thread still has actual discussion and neither of them are as bad as charafags.

>>720074409
the self-victimizing charafag that currently infests deltarune threads is unbearable and its funny how deltarune threads are only spared deletion when he's shitting them up

>>720072136
>STOP IT! STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEOGAMES!!!!
>YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT VIDEOGAMES ON /V/ - VIDEOGAMES
nope sorry, we're here to stay.
want to get away from us? YOU can go to /vg/ instead.

>>720074695
Are you the schizo who acts as if only one person posts Chara or?

>>720075141
its funny how you cannot conceptualize the idea of multiple people thinking you're an annoying threadshitting faggot

>hur dur how are you so naïve
>did you really think we wouldn't murder 5 kids
>I am better than Asgore because I killed my child

Remind me again why do people glaze this character so much? She has 0 redeeming qualities.

>>720075593
she's a loving failure of a person.

>>720075461
Huh? I am just saying because the Charafags argue with him all the time and he purposely said he would shit the threads because of him. What are you talking about?

>>720075708
this is literally the opposite of what happens

>>720075593
She's hot

>>720075775
He literally admitted he would keep arguing with him so he wouldn't express his secondary cancer or whatever.

>>720075593
she said she's no better than asgore though, you can't read so your opinion is immediately invalid, do not post again

>>720075854
there were at least 3 or 4 different people shitting on the charanigger last time i checked the deltarune threads and nobody said anything like that

>>720070915
How would they interact in geno? Would Clover hesitate in killing Kanako or is he too far gone?

>>720076010
Here is what I am talking about.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/719794879/#q719827871

>>720076134
that guy sounds like a fag too, but it doesn't excuse the charafag in any way

>>720075918
Did you bother reading the rest of her dialogue where she vindicates her failure of a husband and calls out Asgore, Martlet and Starlo?

>>720076095
He'd put her out of her misery.