Thread 720139510

Look at her go.

reposting from last thread.
how the fuck do you get here.
>>720139536

>>720139510 (OP)
uh, silksongtransxisters........ what's our next move after bottom surgery?

where the fuck did map lady go? i only need the bilewater map and she isn't in bellhart

Do you get anything other than money in the final ladybug's target practice challenge?

Just finished act 1. Last Judge was pure kino. Him and Widow are by far my favourite bosses in the game so far.

>>720139510 (OP)
so now a few anons have finished the true ending
Is it worth a 7 year wait?

Checked damage number of most things. My nail and tool pouch are fully upgraded. Note that for spells, I used shaman crest, it seems to increase spell damage by 10-15%, was too lazy to retry with a normal crest.
Do tell me if you want something else tested.
>Nail
Nail hit (hunter, reaper, wanderer, beast, witch, shaman): 21
Nail hit (fully charged hunter): 26 (damage increases only when the bar is fully filled)
Nail hit (wanderer crit): 63
Nail hit (architect): 23 (19+2*2)
Clawline: 20 (10*2)
>Spells
Silkspear: 74
Thread Storm: 130 (26*5)
Cross Stitch: 92 (23*4)
Sharpdart: 62 (52+5+5)
Rune Rage: 143 (69+34+23+17, 4 circles hitting enemy, seems to be decreasing with each hit)
Pale Nails: 96 (32*3)
>Tools
Straight Pin: 19
Threefold Pin: 27 (15+7+5, like rune rage, decreases with each hit)
Sting Shard: 40 (8*5)
Tacks: 80 (8*5*2)
Longpin: 19
Curveclaw: 55 (11*5)
Throwing Ring: 15
Pimpillo: 57
Conchcutter: 40 (8*5, can maybe hit more on larger enemy)
Silkshot (forge daughter version): 23
Delver's Drill: 75 (15*5)
Cogwork Wheel: 32 (8*4, can maybe hit more depending on the room and enemy size)
Cogfly: 66 (11*6)
Rosary Cannon: 4 (per hit/use)
Voltvessels (spear mode): 68 (13+11*5)
Voltvessels (bola mode): 49 (5+11*4)
Nail hit with normal Flintslate: 35
Nail hit with poisoned Flintslate: 27
>Charms
Pollip Pouch: 8/12 (4*x, application seems to stack up to 3, some tools apply 2 some others apply 3)
Sawtooth Circlet: 14 (13+1)
Claw Mirrors: 66 (30+12*3)
Memory Crystal: 20
Volt filament: 5 (only add it once, doesn't seem to work with multihit)
Wispfire Lantern: 10
Nail hit with Barbed Bracelet: 26

>>720139669
In Bellhart she should have left a ring in the spot she normally resides. You need to hit that ring and she'll come back.

Is there no way to save Lace?

>>720139510 (OP)
You spoiled that for me :(

This is the pogo boss people were hyping up? I first try'd it without taking damage. Really fun boss, however. Shame it's such a bitch to find.
>3 masks missing
Went into the fight without them.

>>720139669
You can call her where her rings are in Bone Bottom and Bellhart. She's always been there for me, so I don't know if she doesn't respond sometimes.

Cogfly duration resets when you load a room. One swarm of poison cogflies can clear entire areas for you as long as you keep resetting their health. Very convenient for farming as well.

>>720139741
>he fought last judge to get to act 2
ngmi

The council of oldfags made their decision
/v/erdict:
Dogshit game
9/10

>>720139758
is there an ability im supposed to have that makes beastfly less cancer or is it just cancer

>>720139814
Was I not supposed to? I was just exploring.

>>720139764
>Tacks
These things felt so fucking good most of my playhtrough

>>720139764
Based

Garmond and Zaza my dogs 4 real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWGP2dFhxzc

>>720139804
>>720139776
ahhhh ok, thanks anons

>>720139850
I am just teasing, there are multiple ways

Took me like 12 tries

>>720139795
Sorry, should probably have used spoilers, I think it's best to leave this place until you finish the game honestly.

Does the vendor that cannot speak normal language in Hunter's March sell anything useful? Its all very expensive

>>720139764
You can get infinite damage out of cogflies:
>>720139808

Someone gimme a lil hint on how to get the the final melody thats above the cogwork twins fight

>get out of sinner's road and bilewater
>explore the choral chambers
>actually start to have fun
Whoever thought of those areas should be shot.

yeah uh... maybe I shouldn't inject lifeblood.

>>720140014
Best part about cogflies is that they dance when you play needolin

whats the natural progression after saving bellhart? sinners rise?

>>720140031
Pay attention to the map on the bottom of their arena. See the door on the top right side?
That also stumped me for some time

I love gambling
LCKlets need not reply

>>720139923
Cool.

Can act 3 bros give me a 1 word hint as to how you got there in the first place

Post that art of some character fucking Hornet from behind while both of them looking smugly at you.

>>720140010
Mask and boomerang are both S-tier items. You want both of them.

>>720139713
Anyone know?

>>720140076
If you OD on lifeblood with the architect crest you get the hiveblood effect from HK

>>720140010
That skull thing is the best item in the game.

I don't even know where to go now. Literally everything seems locked off and I don't want to do the rasher delivery quest because it's aids

no shaw no buy

>>720140003
I'm at work, fucking sucks

>>720140010
the mask should've been called broken instead of fractured because it's absolutely fucking broken

How do I fucking beat this?

>>720140110
The path, anon. Go through the woods.

>>720140223
>he has the rasher delivery quest
practically everything in the game is available to you right now what do you MEAN locked off

>>720140014
Also with how they are slowly damaging enemies, it's quite op with poison, enemies are taking full poison damage on each hit.

>>720140271
the path? what path?

>>720140185
Come back later and there will be four targets. Hit all them with one boomerang and the Ant Queen appears to upgrade it.[/spoils]

>>720140173
Fulfill wishes.
>>720140319
The pilgrim's path.

when people say wanderers crest gives you the HK moveset, what does that actually mean outside of downwards pogo? and what crest should i use if i like the downwards pogo?

Why do people complain about the beads? They're trivially easy and quick to farm from the very beginning of the game.

>>720140185
Use the boomerang you get from the hunter's march vendor, it upgrades the tool.

does anyone know where to find this relic next to the arcane egg slot?

>>720140294
So where do I go? I've done like literally every quest other than the rasher shit and there's a fuck ton of locked doors everywhere. I have them marked

>>720140376
my pockets are always empty because they feel really good to shove up my ass
bad game design

been reading the requirements to reach act 3 and they seem pretty hardcore yet i'm seeing a lot of people reaching it. i'm kinda surprised, is it really that worth it?

>>720140361
it feels like hollow knight moveset with quick slash on.

>>720140168
you can get it without gambling

>>720140421
post map

how do I bind use tool to one button or pogo to one button?
outside of looking down, I don't see a usecase for the down key.
outside of... uh, controller cuckoldry, I don't know why I need to press up/down + tool button.

>>720140125
ahh thanks anon

>>720140448
There is alot more bosses/content behind act 3 than you would expect for just a true ending.

>>720140448
It may sound hard but if you're a completionist and didn't ignore wishes it's natural to get there

anons who are completingthe bestiary, does shakra count as a entry?

I can't get her friendly sparring match because her bell isnt there

>>720140448
>is it really that worth it?
Act 1 and 2 combined are quite literally only half of the game.

>>720140361
It means you get the same short range from hollow knight but your strikes are also much faster (you can pair this with the flea brew item to be even faster). This means if you're good at staying close to the boss without getting hit you can melt their life away

>Gotta do all the shitty sidequests to get the real ending
I didn’t mind getting the real ending in Hollow Knight cause all I had to do was kill the optional bosses. Shan’t be doing this however.

>>720140501
Steam Input, nigga. Learn 2 use it.

>>720140583
when the fuck does this come out on VOD

>>720140583
Kay

>>720140448
Act 1 is kinda ass, and pretty much serves to filter out the normgroid subhuman street shitting low IQ brown children. That leaves you with the Aryan God AbRadCHADs who actually beat Hollow Knight, so of course they love this shit and are more than willing to fulfill all the conditions to get to Act 3. The conditions for Act 4 are what completely filtered me. I keep coming back to the game to try to fulfill them and it is so digusting I give up and drink while I answer questions in these threads.

>>720140059
Can anyone show me a full map? I feel that I’m missing quite some stuff, I think I did the myst area but it doesn’t appear in the map

>>720140538
i'm just surprised at the amount of people who are being completionists in this case. it's pretty surprising.

>>720140560
>half
Nah that is overselling act 3. I'd say Act 1+2 is like 85% of the content.

>>720140605
I'm not using steam.

Is there really not a single vendor that sells unlimited shard bundles or beast shards? Are they really a limited quantity thing??

>>720139510 (OP)
Okay that's cool, I have to get off /v/ until I can play the game myself

how do I get this flea here?

>>720140676
lolno, it adds a shitton of minigames, bosses, new areas, etc.

>obtain architect crest
>try out the down attack
>immediately switch back to the wanderer crest
Team Cherry trying to not make a dogshit pogo challenge level (IMPOSSIBLE)

Imagine being so assmad at people enjoying a videogame that you've been spamming cp for days now

>>720139657
You meant to link to
>>720139476

I think.
Also I'm in the same spot. no clue.

>>720140716
Belltown

>>720140269
Remove white mask to reveal the black colour beneath. Job application knows that it is beat and commits sudoku

>>720140716
>unlimited shard bundles
Forgemaster sells these.
>>720140721
Hidden area in Whispering Vaults

>>720140694
You should.

>>720140721
Explore Songclave some more

>>720139804
that motherfucker was impossible to find. the way into the area has this tiny little visual indicator in a room I never would've thought to come back to
I thought I was being pretty through but it makes me wonder what else I'm missing

>>720140721
The vault extends to the right and then up.

>>720140448
room above the bottom right whispering vaults bench has a secret

>>720139814
Does starting Act 2 via the secret route fuck anything up with the main route? Like is Sherma still gonna wait until I beat Last Judge?

Hornetbros, is our girk a motherfucking WEEB!?

>almost get the Courier's Rasher to the spot
>right at the last spot go too high and miss the spot where I'm supposed to enter
>contact damage and land on spikes
>have to do it all over again
F U C K

This game really needs a late game upgrade that allows you to switch crests from the pause menu. I don't care if it just comes in Act 3 I want it, I want it, I want it.

I upgraded the Curveclaw in act 3 in the room below Pilgrim's Rest
Is there anything else like this in the game? Already got the 100% completion btw.

no cap, switching from controller to keyboard was a godsend. it's a lot easier to precision control somehow.
now sure why I bothered with a controller at all.

NIGGA WHO ARE THESE MOTHER FUCKERS IN DEEP DOCKS THROWING BOMBS THAT DO MASSIVE AOE AND DO 2 HEALTH DAMAGE AND HAVE 7 HITS WORTH OF HP

>>720140928
GITGUD

>>720140920
Hornet has autism.
It runs in the family.

>>720140928
For me it was running into the door with a lever right at the end and reducing the durability even though I didn't take mask damage

Can I have widow tips please? Or a cheese. I don’t care anymore

>>720141006
>>720140976

So you can't return to Act 3 areas after you beat them? I'm missing a single full hunters journal entry in Verdania

>>720140971
just ignore them.
the giant slug niggers you have to platform past[/spolier] are much worse imo.

>>720140963
you can upgrade the plasmid injectors, the boomerang, the mossstew defense charm and you can choose who makes the silkshot and it changes how it works

wots dis

>>720141006
use the wall cling you just got

>>720140650
why the fuck did you post that image you freak

Do you miss any bosses or quests going from Act 2 to Act 3?
Been putting off going to some areas in favor of Act 3 requirement quests and I don't want to permanently miss some content.

>>720140963
I've seen people talk about a Druid's Eye upgrade but no idea how

>>720139764
Got the Curvesickle, didn't know I could upgrade Curveclaw, it's 15 per hit instead of 11.

>>720141006
be conservative.
most annoying bosses you just have to pick your time of attack and stick to it and focus on staying out of there way the rest of the time.

>>720141006
She is super easy. If you need to heal just scale a wall first. Also poisonrangs are great for chipping away at her health pool. Just pay attention, don't and don't panic dash.

>>720141078
where do I go from here to get to the hunter tool in Deep docks from behind the keydoor? South?

>>720140965
I ragequit HK while practicing AR in the Hall of Gods when I was playing with a controller, picked it up a year later with a keyboard and got through P5 much easier.

Hollow Knight 3 should take place inside a Chinese man's body. You start in the stomach and you can choose if you want to go for the brain ending or the anus ending.

>>720141071
i cant imagine the devs not forseeing this scenario, im sure the enemies are accesible somewhere

The music goes hard on the final boss. God damn they nailed it.

>>720140971
Equip the Magma Bell to nerf their attacks. Magma Bell helps with any fire based damage source, ie Judge or the 2 mask lava bumps.

>>720140920
She likes Sonic games

What am I supposed to do in lost verdania? I fought the boss (unless there's another), did the arena, met the fag near the top and I'm pretty sure the white thing went up there. I tried the jump so unless you have to just fish for a single spot then I don't know.

>>720140731
Its what
>Coral Tower, which is 3 or 4 gauntlets and a boss
>Verdania
>that small ass area with the guard on bridge plus the plant boss
>queen ant dancer boss
Those are the big heart quests. There is alot of sprinkled bosses around but no so much new content than how many large zones are in act 1+2. Like this dude doesn't even count as half an encounter, nor the Watch on the Edge

>>720140636
>Act 4
are you messing with me? is there really more?

>>720139510 (OP)
>initiate Polyp Hearts hunt
>oh sweet, I probably have most of them already-
>4/8 with the entire map already filled in
Fuck this, I'm looking it up. Collectathon nonsense in Metroidvanias is the worst shit ever.

>>720141295
>but no so much new content than how many large zones are in act 1+2.
lol
lmao

>>720139510 (OP)
Just beat Seth
Very kino boss

I got architect a few hours ago and I wish had the same downward as hunter, combined with the charge delay or extremely short range it probably has the second highest skill ceiling to use properly

I came here just to be told to fuck off until i get the grapple hook, didn't I?
I guess I have nothing left to do in act 1 besides go fight Widow.

Is the quest for collecting those purple flowers worth it

>>720141006
First phase is easy. Second phase, you're pretty safe in the middle and she doesn't have much HP, you can kill her just by spamming tools.

>>720141295
>>>he doesn't know

>>720141308
Oh God yes. It gets so much worse.

Does anything improve tool damage? I don't remember if it's crafting kits that do that.

>>720141363
if you know his real life lore and read his needolin lines you will shed a tear

>>720141401
It has one of the best rewards in the game imo

Neat.
A shame that he's piss easy

>>720141435
they do

>>720141127
as far as i'm aware, the only missable content aside from dialogue is the two bad endings. going to act 3 locks you out of both the regular and cursed ones, and the cursed one is also very easily missed by getting yourself uncursed. all quests seem to either be doable in act 3 or a requirement to access act 3 in the first place.

>>720141006
go back to the first town and then explore to the left to get wanderer's crest. its the best crest in the game imo until architect which is obtained in the endgame
buy spike trap from the merchant in deep docks. grab the magma bell too while you are there because it makes the boss after widow much easier

when the boss staggers, preferably later in the fight, spam spike traps ont hem. you can usually get 3 out. if you do it right every trap will hit the boss 5 times and the fight goes by so quick

in phase 2 just focus on dodging mechanics over damage. it looks a lot more difficult than it actually is because the effects take up so much screen space. she has a lot less health in phase 2 than phase 1 so you just gotta stay alive and hit her every once in awhile

>>720141368
cute front facing hornet

fuck lost lace

>>720141476
Forgot my pic because i'm retarded

>>720141481
Sweet, thanks

>>720141431
man I am 42 HOURS in and I just got to act 3
there's seriously MORE?
is there a lot in it or is it kind of a "we're finishing up here" type deal

Man this game is like really really fucking good

Shards and Rosaries were a horrible mistake
>Shards are just scarce enough to ensure that if you use them regulary you will eventually run out
>Even if you did use them for exploration, you can only carry 10-15 of each tool, which is not a lot.
>Players will most likely only use their tools under specific scenarios that can justify the Shards lost while exploring instead properly adapting it to their moveset.
>Since these scenarios are specific, Players will often hit the shard limit, making secret shard rooms feel like bad rewards
>Bosses, the biggest shard sinks, do not drop shards.
I think Team Cherry knew all of this, so to compensate, they made them absolutely broken by giving them these two properties:
>They can do several nails worth of damage per use
>They have decent distance.
>They have little to no cooldown
The end result is that you can melt bosses with them, making some fights feel cheap and anticlimatic.
The entire tool mechanic is backwards in my opinion. Instead of being something you could use here and there, its becomes a nuke button with a very long cooldown (getting the shards back).
Shards should've been removed from the game as a currency and instead restock whatever tools you had equipped. Benches should always restock at no cost.
They should be nowhere near as powerful as they are, they should either have some sort of cooldown or give you twice as many charges, but half the punch to minimize their nuke potential. Hell, even then they would still be nuking enemies.
>Rosaries
lmao

>>720141593
Imma be real you probably have 15-20 hours more.

>>720141401
Beast crest is the worst crest just because it can't equip the reward.

>>720141552
Motherfucker, where do you get this?
Consider maplady doesn't want to fight me anymore in act 3, I'm guessing this fight is missable.

>the game was released 5 days ago
>40+ hours
Are you ok anons?

>>720141632
The game needed more QA testing. It has a god tier base but its dragged down by some of the most retarded choices i've ever seen.

>>720141632
Yeah teh more I play the more I feel like they should have just kept Hollow Knight's system.

>>720141642
holy fuck man. AWESOME
I mean it was in development for 7 years, but good god I didn't expect this much shit at this level of quality

i never lost rosaries and still needed to grind 5000 rosaries right at the end of the entire game just to be able to buy out the shops

there 100% needs to be a economy rebalance patch

>Bench before fight
This one is gonna be tough one, huh?

>>720141680
Try 50+ hours.

>>720141680
one of the strimmers I watch sometimes is almost at 60 hours, no idea how far she is, I am still on the second day's vod

>>720141675
Top right in whispering vaults

>>720141505
Thanks!
What is the cursed ending? Heard mention of it and I could think is beating the final boss with maggots on which sounds like a nightmare.

>>720141547
No.
Seriously.
What the fuck is with this second phase? Were the devs on drugs when designing this shit?

>>720141407
>>720141348
I mean I did finish it. Had to use a guide for the last bit of spool fragments and a handful of tools that were behind walls I just didn't hit. Saying that Act 3 is 50% of the game is just false when the landmass it adds with the jump is barely more than the first 3 zones combined. Its really more about how many random boss encounters it adds.

>>720141815
>This one is gonna be tough one, huh?
Prepare to get your ass kicked.

>>720140812
>>720140835
>>720140852
thanks bros

Please tell me there is something to do here RIGHT NOW after just getting the double jump. I really don't want to suffer through the trek here again later.

>>720141632
Rosaries exist because of "REEEEEEEEEE YOU CAN'T JUST RUN PAST OUR HECKING HP SPONGERINOS!".

Honestly, all battles look very easy on paper. Timings are reactable and pretty easy to learn.
Then why are they so difficult?

>>720140840
Remember how the first game had The Hive which was a "hidden" area that wasn't actually that hard to find and tons of mobs nearby indicating it?
Team Cherry apparently thought "what if we had six or seven hidden zones bur this time they're all proper hidden?"

>>720141853
>use a guide
>complain the game is short
Retard.
I bet you didn't even fight maplady.

>>720141871
there is something to do here but it isnt important and doesnt count for 100%

Is Unravelled supposed to be as tanky as he is with the first needle upgrade? Took me 4 attempts to beat him and felt like the winning attempt was 5 minutes long. The basic charge attack is actually the most troublesome of them all, because he can do it out of nowhere, and it has a giant hitbox.
Reminds me of Soul Master, but a bit more difficult.

>>720141942
Oh cool, fuck this place then.

>>720141909
you figure all of the act 3 stuff yourself?

>>720141680
I actually have a lot on my mind as of late and this has been like taking a vacation really.
>>720141778
I lost less than 400 and I still have to farm some 1-1.5k. It does feel a tad too harsh on the player in that regard.
Do you have the bird's nest? The one you can put on your home? Seems to help plenty.

Currently getting tilted by the ant lady
The attack pattern is reasonable enough, I'm just mad that all the attack windows are so small and she keeps blocking everything

>>720141896
Hornet (you) move so much slower than them. That's the biggest issue.
Then you also have homing projectiles, attacks coming from off the screen, infinite ads spawning, runbacks lasting several minutes, etc.

>>720141907
for real. I've had to look some of them up because I would have never found them otherwise. barely a visual indicator when you're in the room, and nothing on the map
not sure if I like that or hate it. it makes for great discoveries but I want completion
also that probably means I have even more areas to find. this game is huge

>>720142013
Yes. I am a completionist by nature, which automatically leads you to the wish needed to start act 3.

>>720142037
>Hornet (you) move so much slower than them.
you can dash out of every boss' attack

>>720140319
Sinner's rise works, it's just a bit harder. You get cooler shit though

>>720142019
i do have that nest but i bought it last. does it do anything?

>>720141680
It's just really nice to have a good videogame

>>720141842
It's not beating the game with maggots. It's actually worse than that.l
You get a parasite at one point, it's beating it with that.
>>720141849
It's not that bad imo. Second phase is more chaotic, but also has way more openings.
>>720141853
Does that require the full bestiary?
Also do you have any idea of how in the FUCK to reach the place here?>>720140762

>>720142118
You cannot dash upwards; jumping is extremely slow.

>>720141842
you have to kill the final boss with the aids you get when you acquire the witch crest. so you have to do the fight without heals, tools, charms, or spells.

>courier's stash is the fucking white rose again
NO NO NO
Someone please tell me there's an easy way to do it.

This game shares some things I hated about HK but I'm liking it so far

>>720139758
no lol

>>720141871
heavy attack his mask. the dialogue is kino lore exposition.

>>720142207
just do it when you have hook grapple and double jump. Its piss easy when you have them both

>>720142207
Nope. Have fun!
It's really not that bad; there are barely any enemies on the way.

>>720141896
everything is telegraphed well and easy to read, but actually executing it can be tough
I think that a lot is just expected of the player. I haven't found any fights I'd consider "unfair" in any way

>>720142207
yes, just go through sinner's road and bilewater

>>720142149
bought? I thought it drops from the bird boss?
Anyway you put it onto your home and you can pick up shards and rosaries from it now and then.

Where ornate key?
Apparently there's one in whiteward but I cant find it, does it require some kind of a gigajump?

>>720142114
Getting to act 3 and 100% are different. The game, like HK, has a fairly easy way to get to act 3 and get true ending. Talk to NPCs, do quests, pay attention to what hints they give.

The game just fully marks areas explored, even when I haven't been to some of it, which means I missed spools and some talismans because an area I didn't go to was filled in because I entered a door once.

>>720141160
>Curvesickle
howd you get that?
cruveclaw is my favorite tool

>>720142065
I think the hint for Sands of Karak apart from just remember there are grappling rings over there is that the butler guy must give you a clue when you're ingredient hunting. I didn't see it though cause I found it before I brought him anything.

i'm pathing the 5 hour speedrun and realised you can skip humongous amounts of the map but the filter will be in the citadel with ass damage and ass tools, especially that arena room with two giant beetle motherfuckers you need to go through for the melody

>>720142207
it's the white flower except you can get hit like four times
if you have double jump and know the path it's actually trivial, got it in one try

>2nd savage beastfly fight
>featuring ground that gets destroyed
>lava that deals 2 damage
>adds that shits projectiles that deals 2 damage
>which leaves fire on the ground that deals 2 damage
>and the fucking boss itself that deals 2 damage
I'm fucking sick of this shit.

>>720142304
Did you mean to respond to me? Because this is one hell of a non-sequitur.

>>720142306
See replies to this >>720140185

So if I'm going to trap the "last boss" that means I'm going to act 3? Honestly thought it was just akin to the Siblings ending for HK and the game was almost over

>>720141979
Dream Soul Master is way more agile, but Unravelled has the spears and the minions making you crash into his 2dmg body. I'd say they are equal, but you can nuke his gigantic hitbox with tools so Dream Soul Master is definetly harder
Now if you're talking about regular sould master, that is not even a question. None of the HK bosses do 2dmg except for bonus boss rematches and Radiance

>>720142338
MAGMA BELL
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>>720142173
>>720142196
Oh. Yeah that's fucked. I'll let future me deal with that if I decide I want all achievements someday.

>Explore Deep Docks more in Act 3
>Enemy gauntlet
>Tiny ass room
>This time they're all voided
>Explosive projectiles mixed with the 3 kinds of void attacks
>Everything that did 1 damage beforenow does 2 damage
>Enemies are all way tankier for no reason
This feels genuinely unfair

Act 3 spoilers
HORNET MY FUCKING HERO

>>720142416
yes

>>720141632
Shards are fine when you're using 1-2 tools to clear out annoying enemies during exploration. They're broken for that purpose, even, since you often get more shards back than you used on the enemies. You usually end up slowly saving shards over time, which is great when you overextend and need to take out a gauntlet battle or miniboss fast before you die and have to run back.

When you get to bosses, though, the entire system falls to shit. If you're actually being serious about using tools against a boss, you'll use 100+ shards per attempt. No reliable way to get even half of that back. It's fucking absurd.

>>720142256
>>720142258
>>720142262
I have hook, but not double jump, I also don't have blasted steps open, does that means I need to go through the mist? This seems harder than the fucking rose in hollow knight.

>>720142425
What's magma bell?

Can I still get silkshot II when ||the architect is dead||?

>>720142314
Brotip for speedybois looking for cheese: if you're failing a fight just hard exit the game without saving so you don't lose time.

>She spun us to break...
>She spun us to fade...

>>720142338
Spam tools and equip the Gravity Suit >>720142425 my friend

>>720142338
lmao do they really bring it back? hard to believe they'd be that lazy but they only had 7 years.

>>720142487
ctrl+s retard

>>720142438
i would 100% recommend any player to have done a full combover of the map before entering act 3 purely for these arena rooms

>>720141505
Thanks so much anon. That is a really terrible hint. Kept smashing my head on the ceilings of Shellwood trying to get to it.

>>720139764
could you test charge attacks? i'm curious how architect's stacks up to the other crests, it feels like it does way more damage.

>>720142503
Did she speak Japanese?

>>720142503
I feel like Phantom has to specifically be her attempt to make her own Hornet and when that didn't work she realized she needed the real thing.

>>720141860
I got my ass kicked.

>>720142517
whoops

>>720142487
Holy shit newfag lurk more

Help, how do I get there?

>>720142207
It's fucking cancer

>>720142475
https://hollowknightsilksong.wiki.fextralife.com/Magma+Bell

inb4 >fextra

Is no one going to point out the freak spamming illegal shit?

>>720142585
We shall suffer together.

>>720142453
Between boss and boss, getting 100 shards is kind of on the way.
When I started the game, I was using my tools, but noticed that I had fewer and fewer shards by each bench visit. So I started using them only for annoying enemies as you pointed out.
This was the point of the original post btw. They feel like a nuke with long cooldown instead of, you know, a tool?

>>720142474
Bro, just go through Blasted Steps...
Also, you can get upgraded super run in Far Fields.

>>720141909
Where was the complaint about it being short? I am just saying the strictly act 3 content is definitely not half the content of the game.

>>720142475
>>720142678
Just tell him it's sold at the deep docks shop, you don't need to send him to fextra at all.

>>720141632
The system just hinders experimentation for whatever reason. I just cheat it out and give myself infinite amount of it.

>>720142448
Is there a very obvious "this is going to end the game" point because I thought I was at it so I was holding off to explore some more

>>720142580
Phantom is just Pharlooms Hollow Knight, abyss destroys every kingdom

>>720142727
First time in a thread from a game that makes /v/ seethe? Just ignore it.

So, it got spoiled for me a little bit, the fact that there's a way to the Citadel through the Mist as well, but it softlocks your game. Is that true? Should I progress the game first?

>>720142663
left of grand gate near that bench

KINO bossfight. not nearly as difficult as people said but the Bell certainly saved my ass.

Do i need to find the prince that was locked on sinner's road and that robot that I put the cogheart in still during act 2? Couldn't find then again besides a brief appearance of said robot fighting those huge lads close to first shrine

>>720142727
go back

>>720142663
Come back through the underworks where the elevator fell and use the new move you got.

>>720142727
There's nothing you can do other than report and move on. It's basic attention seeking behavior. Hopefully they get consequences, but they probably live in a shithole where they get away with it.

Just beat Groal. How is there no cheevo for this? Hunter's March is a fuckin playground compared to that runback

>ZAANZIBAAAAAAART
What did he mean by this?

>>720142727
he has been doing it for days, must be someome really mad at /v/ having fun

>>720142851
try it in second playthrough

>>720142851
it doesn't softlock your game

>>720142885
Tranny

For all the people struggling with certain act 3 bosses, using tools against dream bosses uses up no shards, so you can go all out with them on every attempt.

>>720142815
do hold off until you're comfortable. there are some area changes but I'm not sure if they lock you out of anything. maybe someone else knows
I am not far into act 3 but the game is absolutely not over

>>720142909
Where do i find Gormand and Zanzabart after Greymoor?
they didn't show up to help me find the Sneedwing, and they dissapeared from their normal spot.

>lost lace
>challenge is you are fighting the boss and trying to dodge projectiles, sudden floor spikes, and her parry that always seems to hit you all at once
fuck man. this shit WILL filter billions.

>>720142909
kek glad im not the only one who heard that

>>720142727
report and move on, asshat got blown up by the game and now acting like unironic retard for the past couple of days. Won't be long he'll get bored fast

you didn't beat the game

>>720142767
I wasn't arguing with you.

>>720142815
Can't you just reload your save and continue just before the ending? I swear you could do that in the first game.

>>720142909
RITALLA

is there a way to make the clover dancer run back not fucking aids

>>720142790
>ignore most of the content
>complain about there not being any content
Classic

>>720142570
She might be also voiced by Hornet's Japanese-Australian VA who did a lot of the female bug voices in the first one.

Do we know what bug ConcernedApe voices yet?

Can I get some minimal spoiler directions to get to Putrid Ducts.
Want to know where these fleas are at.

>>720143018
cant find craft metals anywhere

>if you play to Sherma in Whiteward he won't be as cheerful as normal, and his song will be broken as he cries
I WILL WIPEOUT EVERY SINGLE EVIL BUG IN THE GAME, HOW DARE THEY DO THIS TO YOU

I just beat the Cogwork Dancers.
At what point can I go back to the Act 1 areas to spend all those hundreds of beads I've got?

>>720142981
they'll come back in the Citadel

>>720143018
My game says otherwise

Do you ever get a soul catcher/spell twister equivalent tool in this game? I really miss those.
And no, reaper doesn't count. Having to pick little silk balls after healing doesn't count.

>>720143083
you've played this long. there is no longer a world without aids.

>>720142962
I figured that out fast, but I was sad to learn that for the gauntlet you couldn't abuse Architect's tool restoration. Which actually is a good thing because for future gauntlets in DLC you probably won't be able to abuse it either.

>>720142727
report for illegal content, hide the post, delete cached images and move on

>>720143018
Not yet, but i am clearing entire areas with 3 poison cogflies.

I only need one more flea, but I've heard you miss content if you get all the fleas?

>>720142453
Shard bundle

>>720142856
>>720142891
Thanks, I don't know if it was the correct route but I super jumped in the elevator room and got in the shaft from the top

>>720143124
>only hundreds
explore more and you'll be asking where to farm them next

>themself
what faggot is responsible for this?

>>720142981
I don't know what a sneedwing is, I only met him in Greymoor once and now I keep meeting him in random citadel rooms. Dunno if I need to find all the rooms or if he's just a random fun event to help you clear those rooms.

Wanderer or reaper crest? They seem pretty similar

>>720143203
You're about 14 fleas too late to be worrying about that one
It's Moorwing

imagine being so casual even your language is simplified lmao

>>720142815
2 points of no return I'm aware of:
Getting un-cursed (can't get cursed end anymore).
Starting Act 3 (can't get regular or cursed ends anymore).

I honestly think Team Cherry balanced this game around all the complaints Joseph Anderson had about the first game.

alright bros im being filtered. ring to the left goes nowhere. is this a loop around point that i cant access from this side?

>>720141401
Id argue playing the game without its reward is a deliberate challenge run

>>720143124
Go to the bottom right of choral halls.

SOVL KINO

>>720143106
rightmost side of memorium
it's a very awkward little jump and may take a few tries

>>720142851
there is a potential bug. i didn't experience it myself, but i've seen other anons post about it.
the last judge door isn't properly closed on the inside of the citadel, and if you go out through it it's closed and you can't go back in without killing last judge.
after going out through the locked door, the game considers you as having all bells rung even if you haven't done that, and enables the fight. however, when you kill her, the game softlocks if you don't have enough bells to open the door in the first place. (which is normally a requirement for the fight, but somehow broken by going through the door the wrong way.)
one guy who posted about it said he fixed the issue by going and ringing the last bell, and after that the ending of the last judge fight played out how it was supposed to.

>>720143312
they balanced it around playing their own game for 7 years and forgetting normal players are fucking shit at games

>>720143318
??? Literally jump to the ring, then to the platform on your right? the needle reaches quite far anon.

>>720143289
I've heard they are mad because something wrong with the translation. Maybe not simple enough?

Is the worm ending part of the 100% or just a neat extra like Godhome's ending

>>720143346
so does anything bad happen if you use the vials?
I saw that shit before finishing his quest and it's put me off using that shit completely

>>720143312
He complained about the beast creast being too good?

>>720143376
holy shit you can harpoon to ledges. i thought it was just rings. im retarded

>>720140762
Maybe something to do with this structure?

>>720143258
Themst'velfn't

>>720143398
no it's just temporary extra health

>>720143318
Harpoon left ring, jump right and use harpoon to get on the platform

>>720143395
its a non canon easter egg ending and does not unlock anything else besides a unique cutscene

>>720143289
>Japan - Mixed
What happen

>>720143395
it's not required for 100%

>>720139764
>longpin and straight pin do the same damage
WHY WOULD YOU EVER USE LONGPIN THEN?

>>720143414
and if you hover after every harpoon dash for half a second you can move horizontally without falling until you run out of soul

I'm at 91% completion and i have the everbloom flower , should i continue the main objetctive? I don't know what else to do.

>>720142981
Typical mysterious NPC behavior in these type of games, but he can show up on revisits to Sinner's Path having killed one of the big enemies.

This ant queen boss is so much fucking fun!
>mandatory 20 second wait
>then a slow walk towards her arena
>then have to fight a basic bitch enemy gauntlet
>does two damage per hit, because of course she does
>moves into you all the goddamn time
>spikes last longer than your i-frames after getting hit by them
>can just straight up block your attacks whenever she wants

>>720143457
That's where you get the wanderer crest, it closes after you got it.

>>720143481
>>720143487
Thank fuck, thanks anons

I have to be missing something even doing everything perfectly I don't have enough time for the rasher quest. When the FUCK do I get double jump

>>720143156
I fortunately said that and beat him. The runbacks have been really good at this point and then he comes in.

>>720143471
bapana mopdis

Post your best NTR arts of Hornet.

>>720143585
I did it with time to spare with double jump
You can get that right after early citade/harpoon

>>720143585
if you have the grapple you can just go grab it
it's on mount fay
also the optimal path is to go up blasted steps, if you're going the other way you're doing it wrong

Can you guys post a full map and say what are some area that could be easily missed? I got all the melodies but did not play them and got every nook and cranny filled but I’ve seen some stuff in other maps, I’m especially confused about the area above blightown, it’s just a dead end with the huntress and a key to the super boss in the jail

>>720143585
Are you using the sprint charm and taking the spa route? i took 3 hits and still made it in time.

Jesus fuck this game is stingy with health upgrades

>100% Steel Soul
Yeah I think I'm good honestly
At least until someone brings out a guide with a safer route

>>720143548
oh i beat that cunt an hour ago.
You are gonna love what comes next!
>t. atleast 20 tries in so far for the next cunt

Pinmaster sings if you play the Sneedolin next to him.

>>720143506
Maybe longpin perces through shields and/or attacks? The description says it's strong against armor. Otherwise yeah I don't know why you'd ever want it

>>720143734
Just go ahead and advance in the story anon.

>>720141632
I agree in principle but ill add that ive personally never actually ran out of shards and when i started getting low i just equiped the more shard trinket and that was with very liberal tool use. I do agree that they should not be able to nuke bosses, but thats a tough think to fix because they obviously designed every annoying flying enemy around the fact that you have a ranged nuke button.
Id probably keep the damage the same, but make the attack speed slower(can make the architect crest buff it back to normal or something) and just remove the shard system entirely (increase the amount of silk is needed to repair tools for architect)

>>720142135
just to make sure, was I supposed to eat shit through bilewater, getting mogged by the granny guerilla there, go trhough the mist, being guided my the fireflies, defeating the phantom and finally going to act 2 WITHOUT ANY MAPS?

>>720143818
All bugs do.
Including the enemies.

>>720143350
Thanks. I was checking the ceiling of White Ward, just to give you an idea how close I was.

>>720143818
Bruh... Literally every single npc does that

>>720143794
the steel soul and speedrun achievements in hollow knight were actually pretty easy with all the overpowered charms in that game, but in this one they're going to be an actual challenge, especially the steel soul 100% run

>>720143834
But I want the good ending broski

>>720143862
Does it work on Ghosts in the myst?

>>720143838
That's the alternative path. You know, signified by the fucking name?
>sinner's road
You want to go through the woods into the sands, saving the Bellhart on the way.

I'm getting absolutely filtered by act 2 Lace.

>>720143934
No, because they're not alive.
>>720143963
She took me a hundred attempts. You can do it!

I just beat Last Judge, died to his bullshit death animation, then beat him the very next try with no tools.

It's like once you know the boss, you know it.

How do I get the surface memento? I climbed the craddle and I'm on the surface, visited the abandoned town but I don't see any item to pickup.

>>720143506
I used long pin and triple shot for most of act 2. Long pins arch is actually really nice for hitting awkward enemies, and it peirces everything, doing damage through shields and attacks that would normally deflect other tools. Its certainly not the best, but i dont think its useless especially with how early you get it. You dont get the really broken shit until much later in the game

>>720141632
I'm going to rant about the silk system too while I'm at it:
>You start with 8 bars, hitting an enemy gives you 1 bar
>Healing costs 8. A silk ability costs 4
>Each upgrade (two spools) give you a extra bar
>You can get 8+ extra bars. Meaning two heals and 4 abilities
>Getting hit while healing makes you lose ALL of your silk, not just the silk commited to the healing
Now lets compare to HK
>Start with a sphere, that fills with 4 attacks
>Healing costs 1/3
>Spells costs the entire sphere
>Each upgrade (3 soul fragment things) gives you an extra attack or 3 heals. x4 more silk compared to attacks. x24 more if you compare healing
>You can get 3 extra spheres, x3 more for attacking or x6 more if you consider healing
>Getting hit ONLY costs the commited soul, not all of your spheres
As a result, spool upgrades feel really really bad. They also seem to hate healing a lot.
Oh and you can only equip multiple silk abilities if you get a specific crest near the endgame. Good luck trying a playthrough with that style because there will be nothing much to play through by that point.

>>720140583
Once you get to the end of the Citadel the game becomes obsessed with wasting your time, it's hilarious how many times they make you go up that stupid mountain

Why the fuck does playing the needolin consume silk? It does literally nothing except opening doors and reading npcs minds. And look cool while playing.
All it does is you need to interrupt your song before it uses a silk bar and start again, it makes talking to npcs so annoying.

>>720143734
can't post mine because of spoiler reasons. post yours and i can give you hints for anything you missed.
for the area above bilewater at least, you can access that through a citadel zone, specifically the memorium

>>720143929
Pretty please will playing the melody and going up will lock me out of stuff?

>>720142956
u

so is tc gonna make the game easier or nah

The new "path of pain" wasn't bad at all actually. It looks scarier than it is, the silkspear throw is so strong.

>>720144043
Hunter has 2 abilities

>>720144043
you forgot the worst part
>you can only have one spell equipped at a time

How do I make progress in Sands of Karak?
Got the simple key bench but I don't know how to ascend the shaft next to it when I can't pogo off the red spikes.

Whgere is the Bellhart courior in Far fields?

The Sinner's Road, the Mist area right after and not knowing when you would get a bench after going through it and surviving with only one HP was mean, I need a break after that whole part...

>>720144105
no. in fact you should do that asap, because doing the true ending permanently locks you out of the regular one and you can miss it.

How many times does savage beastfly need to be stunned to kill him? 3? I can barely make it to 2 but I'm learning how to deal with him fine it's mostly his ads that are lame and won't die to ground pounding. The second I focus on killing something else he rams me for two and then I get stuck in the rape corner.

Where is the twin moss mother fight?

>>720144182
Oh, right my bad
>>720144194
addressed at the end of the post and by this anon >>720144182

>>720144194
hahaha
he doesn't know

>>720143998
I somehow did her a couple of tries after posting that.

>>720144293
Behind the music door in the very first area of the game
theres also an important npc there that gives you very very useful upgrades. I assume everyone still btiching about the compass hasnt found her yet

>>720143942
yeah, sure, but where the fuck is maplady in any of those areas?

I WILL be using the faster running charm the entire game and you can't stop me

>>720144043
>Start with a sphere, that fills with 4 attacks
It absolutely does not, you need 4 attacks to fill a third of the sphere. Shaman stone cuts that in half but that's still more than 4 to fill it
>Spells costs the entire sphere
Wut? They cost a third, same as healing
>Each upgrade (3 soul fragment things) gives you an extra attack or 3 heals
It gives you 1 heal. Each upgrade is a third of a sphere, not a complete sphere. Having all three doubles your starting mana

Can I Free Eva?

>>720143585
I did it without double jump with like 1.5 blips to spare. I went above the spa iirc

>>720143506
Longpin pierces and can multiple enemies with one shot, whereas straight stops on the first enemy. Also,
>>720143832
>Maybe longpin perces through shields and/or attacks?
It does. For example, it always damages the shield guys in the blasted steps, even if they are blocking.

>lifeblood questline results in the scientist no longer responding to needolin playing, meaning the silken influence of the monarch is no longer within him
>hornet speculates it's like the radiance infection
hmm....

>>720144043
honestly a mod to unlock all crests at the start of the game would be pretty cool. i want to do a shaman-only playthrough sometime.

Where the hell do I get a key for the ornate lock in whiteward?

>>720142024
still here, still tilting
I tried using other crests, why would anyone ever use beast crest if you can't heal more than 3 masks?

>>720144268
Git gud at dodging the beastfly itself and use silk to nuke the summons. Spam boomerangs when it is low on health to end the fight faster.

Didn't play HK but everyone says that Silksong is much harder than HK.
Is this what fans wanted? If not then why did they do this?

>>720144435
it's also in whiteward, behind a fake ceiling.

>>720144394
Keep an eye out for her rings.

>>720144456
I used reaper. The key is to pogo off her for most her attacks, then learn how to dodge the spinnies. Do that and you'll eventually win, though she has a fuckton of hp.

>>720144407
in a sense

>>720143548
these sequences give you basically infinite tools, dont be afraid to spam

>>720144471
only subhuman shitters who bought it for the hype are complaining, actual gamers like it

>>720141680
I'm retired and life as a single senior citizen with no family. My life is honestly depressing. This game has been like an oasis of peace and happiness in what is an otherwise miserable life.

Someone please tell me exactly how to get the Crustnut. I'm in Putrified Ducts, which is spelled wrong, gg Aussie cunts.

I just want to progress, I'm so tired of running around the same zones looking for pixels I haven't bombed--I mean, hit with my needle.

>>720139510 (OP)
>Killed savage beastfly over the lava on the second attempt
It was pure luck, wasn't it?

>>720144471
>Is this what fans wanted?
lolno
>If not then why did they do this?
Because it's Team Cherry's game. This game is what they wanted to make.
They don't have an audience to pander to because they're already millionaires.

i got as far as greymoor then doubled back for backtracking stuff and am currently having my ass handed to me by savage beastfly. im not having fun at all. does it get better from here or should i just uninstall?

>>720144043
Forgot to add, for completeness sake:
>Silksong healing can be done midair
>Very very safe to do during bosses since it open lots of potential safe spots
>HK healking can only be done on the ground, limiting safe spots
Now in Silksong every boss does 2dmg to compensate, but that is for another rant

>>720144575
Were you in military?

got the third credits roll.
Is that it?
No way they would make that the true final boss, sure it was hard but it wasnt as an epic of a finale as the one in HK

>>720144471
Yes. Why are you so concerned about something you clearly don't care about and are completely removed from?

The Witch crest quest is psychotic. What's wrong with these Australians?

>>720144207
please respond

>>720144397
I had my wires crossed. You're right in all of those, but my point stands that spools feel really really bad
The sphere upgrades felt like, you know, an upgrade. Spools did not

>>720142503
why is she so irrelevant despite her sickass fight and theoretical importance?

>>720139764
>Nail hit (fully charged hunter): 26 (damage increases only when the bar is fully filled)
Looks like I'm sticking with hunter from now on. Fuck.
>>720143506
Isn't straight pin super cheap?

>>720144593
Nah, you're way stronger at that point while Beastfly remains the same, even with the added dickery of the new adds and arena.

>>720144606
savage beastfly is optional

>>720144461
Boomerangs over string shards then? I wasn't too sure but I'll try that

>>720144592
Pretty sure crust nut is literally on the other side of the world

>>720143485
All the reviews are complaining about the damage and multiple enemies. They just need to git gud.

>>720144712
i know but i want to beat him

>>720144702
>Looks like I'm sticking with hunter from now on. Fuck.
Yeah, 24% damage increase is insane with the amount of health enemies and bosses have.

Does anyone else think that Greymoor looks kinda generic?

so I realized that Eric Barone of stardew valley fame is in the credits as a VA
I wonder who he did the voice for

>>720144593
I almost got him first try which led me to get cocky and eat shit 10 times in a row

>>720144758
then dont complain faggot

>>720144732
I'm starting to feel jerked around by the devs.
Can you tell me where, please

>>720144606
compared to other fights i've done, that one isn't really that bad. use your silk to instagib the adds when they come out and do his basic pattern. he can kill his own adds too.

>>720142981
Graymoor=>Sinner Steps=>Citadel=>Sonclave

>>720144781
most places look pretty generic. the art is good but theres very little imagination behind it

so hornet's needle was made by bees
I guess that's why she's called hornet despite being a spider

What is the deal with Wanderer Crest? The extra yellow slots makes it ideal for exploration but the short range makes it too bad for plataforming (which is a big part of exploration). Idk when to use this crest, does it go in the bin alongside the Beast Crest?

>>720144706
Does making him dive in the lava deal extra damage to him?

>>720144850
do you want cotton candy land or something? game's supposed to have a more grounded aesthetic

>>720144471
99.9% of devs never truly get the chance to make their dream game. they're constrained by things like budgets, schedules, publishers, etc. that compromise the vision in some capacity team cherry had infinite money from hollow knight selling gangbusters and nobody to answer to, not even their own fans because they went radio silent.
this is their dream game, and they wanted it to be hard as balls and for people to get filtered. that's intentional.

>>720144872
Which insect are gods even supposed to be?

>>720144813
Im at work and i dont remember the exact location but im pretty sure i found it in the crust nut area. You acess it but using the grapple hook attack on the rings near the charge attack ladies house in worm fuck valley

So I can only choose 1 of the 3 options for my silkshot tool?

Does the poison dot stack?

>>720144560
Killing her and making her apart of myself doesn’t count I want to see what she looks like

Does it matter who you take this to? Are the guns actually functionally different?

>>720144879
All crests have the same nail damage.
Wanderer has the fastest hit rate.

>>720144592
Sands of Karak. If you haven't found it yet it's up from the Pintress in Blasted Steps

>>720144948
aren't they all the same other than visual?

>>720144879
>Wanderer
It hits super fast and has down strike instead of diagonal.

>>720144921
>spend 8 years working on dream game
>its a poorly balanced, buggy, unfun, tedious mess
maybe they should have been accountants or somethingsasmp

>platforming
>platforming
>platforming
Can we walk normally for a moment??

>>720144872
We knew this from the first game, yeah. You can go to the bee colony.

>>720144928
Wyrm, though I don't think those are actually genetically related insects to the normal bugs. They just take the form of bugs the same way a god might take the form of a human.

>>720144813
it's in sands of karak.

>>720144456
Fucking Finally
I was mostly getting tilted by THE FLYING FUCKING ADDS at the start of the fight
Its fine, I'm just chilling up hear outside of range of the screen throwing spears at you, its cool

>>720145008
Have you seen a bug walk normally for a moment?

>>720144824
>use your silk to instagib the adds when they come out
my spear doesnt one shot them and the only other tool thingy i have are the shitty little throwing knives :(

>>720144813
go here, explore the new area

>>720145008
What the fuck did you expect after the first game? Honestly, it's still not enough, every room should be like White Palace.

>>720140346
how do you get it back again after giving it away?

>>720144574
>>720144597
>>720144921
Unironically happy for devs. Hope they are even richer now.
>>720144646
Just wanted to know.

>>720144872
The Hive was originally going to be part of the initial release of Hollow Knight and they would've mentioned Hornet being The Child of three Queens: born to Herrah, raised by the White Lady and named and trained by Vespa.
When they cut the Hive, that was taken out but was still assumed to be canon especially when the Hive was reintroduced as free DLC.

>>720144012
Just play music like always

>>720144606
I'm the same as you, I'm on try number 25 now. Become reactionary to the beastfly, don't go ham on him or you will die. Let him charge you on the ground, dashing always back to the walls, and when he nears the wall you jump and blade hop on him once and maybe twice if you feel more comfortable baiting out the low pass. Do not jump early or he will go down the middle and fuck you if you stand still or jump. Just zigzag and hop slash. That's my best advice.

For ground pound stand still until his visual cue that he's got a lock on you happens, then lightly walk away and quickly turn around to deal one hit on him. That's how you deal with both attack patterns. Bee patient.

how do you get inside?

>>720141680
Took 2 day off work for this game

>>720144879
its a dps crest. You get good yellows that help with combat later. Dmg up yellow + no knockback yellow + flea drink + poison buffed flintstone tool will cause you to outright kill any gounded boss that gives you a second to continuously hit them

>>720145150
The front door.

Is it important to get all the cylinders to this guy for Act 3? He seems to be dead but not sure why

>>720144937
>>720144990
>>720145095
Thanks anons. I did explore here before, but I must have missed the pixel.
I'm getting fatigued. They somehow made the game's pacing worse than HK, whose pacing was already abysmal. At this rate, I won't complete it not because of any one challenge, but because the game just wore me out.

i wonder what hallownest is like while this is all going on

Let's discuss Hornet's pussy. Is that good?

>pinstress
literally not fun at all, good job.

>>720144921
I think the $20 price is to make the filtered normies not even ask for the refund. Think about it, if it was $40 or more the people getting filtered would all ask for their money back, but for $20 they can just drop the game and be forget about the money. In the end they made money that way.

>>720144781
The areas don't have nearly as much charm and identity as the ones in Hollow Knight. Also lots of enemeis are generic "just a whatever bug" that don't even fit the theme and atmosphere or biome they're in.

>>720145138
i have his patterns down its just the fucking adds that get me

where do I find the stuff for the gourmet

Straight pin or long pin? Or is there a better tool I should find? I just got the polip pouch

>>720142537
Charged attack (hunter): 58 (29*2)
Charged attack (reaper): 52
Charged attack (wanderer): 65 (13*5)
Charged attack (beast): 52
Charged attack (witch): 85 (17*5, I think it's only 2 hit if you don't mash your attack button)
Charged attack (architect): 130 (13*7)
Charged attack (shaman): 42
Witch bind: 63 (21*3)
>>720144702
>>720144761
It's only when fully charged, it's like 5 or 6 hits without taking damage for that. I think wanderer is still way better damage wise, more hits per second and chance to crit for 3x damage.

>>720144879
I used wanderers crest my entire playthrough. Its fast slices are great and it has the best pogo out of all of them.

>>720144973
mask maker makes a railgun
forge daughter makes a shotgun
architect makes an smg

>>720145150
up and around

>>720145307
Are you straight man or long man? Here is your answer.

>>720145281
You’re nostalgia goggling. The enemies were pretty much on par with their Silksong equivalents

>>720145302
you can talk to the guy and he'll give a hint to where to get the next ingredient

>>720145302
I know the Courier in Bellhart has one and the Barman in Greenmoor has other

>>720145284
Same. I'm told here to prioritize silk spam to nuke them and chuck boomerangs when you feel like you're on a good run to end it

>>720145328
I knew architects charge attack was better than the rest, but holy shit

>>720145302
Inn in Greymoor
Quest from the two Courier Bugs in Bellhart, if you don't have them, there'll be quests to track them down.
Hidden area first accessed above the Pinstress.
Boss accessed from the lower path of Sinner's Road.

>>720145198
Wrong custodian.

>>720145302
Vintage Nectar comes from the Halfway House in Graymoor.
Courier's Rasher is in Bellhome.
Crugnutz comes from here pic rel
Pickled Muckmaggot come from the Sinner's Road

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I KILLED THE THING THOUGH
WHY DID IT COME BACK
I KILLED IT

>>720145336
can you only get 1 per playthrough?

>>720145473
That was it's mate

>>720145302
>Nectar
greymoon bartender
>rasher
lol have fun, go to bellhart
>crustnut
need hookshot ability, than proceed to left of the map
>maggot
need double jump(?) and go to swampy area

>pilgrimage?
>pay for the fucking benches
>pay for doors
>pay for bell stations
Pharloom is a fucking jewish kingdom. That's what it is.

>>720145328
thank you very much anon
also holy shit architect charge does 130 fucking damage wow
it really is over twice as strong as the others

>>720145302
>Crustnut
My sock

I want to be double teamed by the clover dancers

Where is everyone farming beads? Need to buy like 3 vendors full of stuff

YOU CANT MAKE ME GO BACK I WONT GO BACK SHAKRA CAN GET FUCKED

>>720145473
This is life

Act 3
They voided the ants

>>720145473
It literally didn't do anything wrong and you killed it simply because the townsfolk asked you to. They deserved it.

that was easier to do than I expected, I'm surprised they made an achievement for this

not gonna lie this actually lived up to the hype

>>720145515
and pay for silk

>>720144471
>>720144597
I don't know if they intended it to be as difficult as it is. Some of it, sure, but there's this thing that happens when you play enough of a game like this where you lose proportion of how hard it would have been for a newcomer. Like Soul Master is a very hard boss for a new player in HK but he's a joke on replay.

I think it is very likely they'll remove SOME of the early-game 2x damage in response to player complaints, so feel good that you did it already pre-nerf.

>>720145302
The guy that gives you the quest also gives you hints for all the locations that are pretty on the nose except for maybe the nector one. If you dont care:


nector is at the halfway home in greymore. It cost 400 money.
Courier rasher is a delivery quest from the merchants in the bell town
Crust nut is found somewhere here>>720145095
Maggot is in sinner road. Up thaf one spot that needs the double jump to access

>>720145475
Yes, but they are all counted as the same thing so you only need one for 100%. It's a matter of delayed gratification. You can get the Ruined Tool in Act 1, but if you hold off until you get to the Masketta Man you can get the best version.

>that platforming ascent in greymoor
>get to the top
>oh a new power!
>just a FUCKING silk move
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
at least I made a ton of beads

>>720145585
Is she penetrated by tentacles?

>>720139510 (OP)
just got to coral tower is there only the tool in there or is there something im missing? Im guessing its going to be relevant in act 3

>>720145473
questiong a picture of Hornet looking down with blood on her mask like that one yuru yuri pic

>>720145618
It's a very good silk move though. Almost mandatory for Beastfly.

Was the intended entrance for the citadel on the left?? I went next to the bell door from the outside, wich was open to the inside when it instantly showed a closed gate from where I came from.

>>720145618
The entirety of Greymoor is completely optional, i think.

Barely caught it. Nice try you tricky motherfuckers

I love you guys...

Time to accept that Hornet is much stronger than Knight has ever been lorewise.

>>720145612
>Ruined Tool in Act 1
Where the fuck is that thing

>>720145302
nectar is bought in halfway home
rasher from npc in bellhart. you have to bring it to the chef white flower quest style with no fast travel. its not 1hko though
crustnut is from sands of karak. go to where you got charge attack in blasted steps after you get the harpoon
muckmaggot is in sinners road but you have to get the mount fay cloak to reach it

>>720145612
Is the railgun really the best? It looks slow as fuck so unless it does like 20 nail hits worth of damage I can't see it being very good

>load game after getting the better ending
>Act 3
KINO

>>720144980
>>720144996
>>720145191
Ok. Range makes it tricky for platformig, tho, but maybe it's muscle memory from Hunter that is cucking me.

>>720145756
How many gods did Hornet kill?

>>720145764
Behind a needolin door in Weavernest Murglin in Bilewater

>>720145612
kino

>>720145843
SpiderGAWD who could control all other Gods.

>>720145642
no, she's just being hugged very tightly
although that would probably be a "yes" according to some anons on /trash/

>>720145662
correct, it's for act 3

>>720145678
>Was the intended entrance for the citadel on the left??

It's the main story entrance with the "Tourian Statue" style opening method, the other entrance is intended to be very secret.

Reaper or fully upgraded hunter?
I prefer reaper

>>720145931
for me it's architect

>>720139764
It mostly confirm my items ranking:
>Crest
Wanderer
Architect
Hunter
>Skill
Thread Storm
Silkspear
>Red tools
Cogfly
Flintslate
Flea Brew
Sting Shard
Tacks
Curvesickle
Voltvessels
Plasmium Phial
>Blue tools
Longclaw
Pollip Pouch
Fractured Mask
Spool Extender
Quick Sling
>Yellow tools
Magnetite Dice
Silkspeed Anklets
Compass
Weighted Belt
Ascendant's Grip

>>720145473
Enemy can get into safe areas 2.0.

>>720145931
BEAST

>last section of mount fay
>hand is now seizing up
MY HAND
IT HURTS
PLEASE MAKE IT STOP
HAAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>720145898
Ghost beat Hornet even when she wasn't "holding back".

>>720145783
Yeah, try using it on stunned bosses. It has a low ammo count because you won't have a lot of chances to use it, but when you do oh boy.

>>720145931
both are replaced the moment you get wall jump by wanderer which you use until architect in the endgame.

Any tips for the third race?
Not sure how I'm supposed to be platforming fast

got the fucker beastfly. i think im ready tio get back to the main story. i think greymoor is more or less the last area before the gauntlet leading up to the citadel, right? and if so, what upgrades should i have before i head through? i seem ot have missed a lot

>>720145931
Reaper is for bosses. Hunter is for randos.

>>720145473
They just had to keep making it more and more sad
>little pilgrim thats too afraid to climb just stays in base camp
>gets killed by rampaging monster before even working up the courage to climb
>gets a funeral
>no one at the funeral knows his name meaning he was so shy and quiet he never even befriended anyone the entire time he was at the camp

>>720145921
Damn I sure am happy to have explored a shit ton

These two niggas are worse than the fly

>>720145959
erm, bro... you're parry? i don't see the parry on there? where is the parry?

>>720146002
You have the anklets, right?

>Pilgrim's Rest beast is gone
>No path can be opened now
Bros am I locked out of a flea

>>720139510 (OP)
I loved hollow Knight but this game is ass so far. Just boring fetch quests, zero SOVL

Wish the go-fast accessory didn't cost silk. Strange drawback for what already takes up a slot.

im about to get in the elevator bros
if you complete the game and get the 'bad ending' do you have to start again or what?

>>720146002
spam clawline

>>720146041
Just clash ;)

>>720146143
you don't

The ant boss is fucking bullshit
You gain next to no pushback when you attack, forcing you into her
And then she moves into you, damaging you AGAIN
Jesus Christ

>>720146143
it just puts you back on the bench before the final boss

this is the first soulslike ive ever played where the beginning of the game is the worst part and it just keeps getting better

>>720146227
karmelita? nigger she’s the best boss in the game

>>720146143
You can aways continue and nothing is missable.

>>720146041
Well, it's my own ranking, might be good, but I'm used to dashing/jumping away from an attack.

>>720146003
booomp

>>720146091
Go to the Bell Beast way station below Pilgrim's rest. Secret wall on the right, navigate up to the other side of the Pilgrim's rest door. Also you screwed yourself out of 100%ing the bestiary, you needed to hunt that Atlas Beetle.

>Sands of Karak
can suck my fucking ass. Why can nothing in this game be enjoyable after a certain point. Jesus, Team Cherry, not everything needs to be an insufferable challenge.

>>720146050
yes I have go faster boots, I was just wondering if there was a specific crest I should be using for better mobility

>>720145756
Lord of Shades.
But even then, Abyss Shriek would utterly trivialize Silksong by deleting every flying enemy.
Then consider that the Knight can do that and Descending Dark and Shade Cloak dash and Shade Soul all at the same time.

>>720146268
lolno that would be First Sinner.

So did people learn the conditions of endings?

EH??

>>720146191
>>720146248
>>720146291
nice thanks

>scuttlebrace
>grapple
How does this game keep getting more fun? It's not fair to other indies!!!!

Can I do something here now, or do I need some special ability? I just get blown away every time I climb. There's loot, but the way it seems to be blocked by rubble or something.

>>720146227
I just got done beating her
Don't forget to spam tools, they're free in the dream

>>720146003
>i think greymoor is more or less the last area before the gauntlet leading up to the citadel
no you have a shit load more to do, unless I'm misunderstanding the question

>>720146385
Yes
Ending 1 - beat final boss
Ending 2 - beat final boss with curse
Ending 3 (True ending), complete all act 1/2 quests and finish the final quest. Will also require moving fleas to final location

Bros... please tell me there are multiple ruined tools in the game... i already used mine early with the forge daughter...

>>720146513
Nope, you ruined your ruined tool.

>>720146415
its just a little treasure. pretty sure all you need is the wallclimb but its not important

>>720146513
Nope

>>720146570
Oh, wait, it wasn't blocked by rubble. I was just getting stuck on geometry every time I climbed previously.

Got the fragment but am I stuck here? Accidentally called the elevator when going down lol

>>720146410
the grapple is so fucking fun to use it's unreal. i expected it to only be really useful for those shitty hanging rings but then they had to go and make it usable on enemies and ledges too.

What's with the diving bell thing after the dual boss in the Docks?

Apparently I missed a boss fight. In act 2, you can fight Shakra but can't do that again in act 3 or at least I haven't found how to.

Where the hell is the npc in the ducts that gives you flea markers??

>>720146673
True ending related, progress and you'll see.

>>720146548
>you ruined your ruined tool.
ironic isnt it

>>720146650
Just quit to main menu and load back in

Wahts the big ember thingy in Deep Docks for?

>>720145873
there's a needolin door in bilewater? where is that?

>>720146606
>>720146548
thanks, time to kill myself

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NAIL RANGE EXTENSION I FUCKING TREKKED ENTIRE GAME AND I STILL DON'T HAVE IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRP8XELYqRk
The OST here is so good.

>>720146724
In the top
You need to get grabbed by ceiling tentacles

>>720145570
anyone?

>>720146346
Its not that bad but i had double jump by then

>>720145756
>>720146376
My head cannon is that because hornet isn’t part void meaning she’s more weak to physical attack in comparison to the knight

>>720146821
left of great bellway

Holy toolbox batman!

>>720146759
it's on the very bottom by sinner's road, one of the maggot pools has a secret passage you can swim into.

Why is Hornet so autistic? 1000 years brains?

I'm gonna be a little crazy and go Sinner's to Exhaust for the delivery quest, I think. Insane, or genius? That's for you to decide.

>>720146785
reward for a quest to be found in the top right corner of the map area with the swampy shit

>>720146890
have you seen her parents?

>>720146890
got it from her dad

>>720146879
back to bilewater it is... FUCK

>>720145585
do you really lose your save?

where was the simple key door in the citadel?

>>720146870
Architect is great. Plus you can recharge your tools with silk so it saves a lot of shards.

>>720146821
at the end of act 2 I was running from the Songclave bench to the The Forum bench and back, killing the 5 big dudes on the way with the Thief charm
275 beads one way if you don't get hit

>>720145585
what is this

>>720147017
Might be a good choice for bossfights
Love me wanderer for exploration tho

>>720138848
if you're still here I found seth at the center room of the shellwood

>>720147029
also this doesn't work in act 3

I'm missing two mementos hunter's journal and Guardian's Memento. Apparently it's from Seth, I fought him once before one of the memory boss, but how do I find him again to get that memento?

>>720147017
but it still uses shards when recharging with silk

>>720147017
is it really worth losing the silk skill though?

>>720145570
In act 2 I do that long ass corridor between songclave and the far west bench, just go back and forth. In act 3 I've just been farming the 3 dudes that spawn next to the west bench because one of the big dudes is missing and it's a lot of empty space, plus you can use the dash skill or probably the spear to annihilate those 3 pretty quickly

>>720146965
the forum

Can you get into the Citadel from here?

>>720147164
yeah. silkskills are fun to use, but they're nowhere near as strong as tools

where do I find steel spines in act 3? They are fucking dead

>>720147164
Tools are way strong than magic and you can save your silk for healing

>>720147123
find him in greymoor, shellwood and then fleatopia

>>720147239
it's literally in that room

>>720146821
>equip charms for extra rosmaries and attack speed
>go great bellway tram
>run left and kill the 2 guys
>run back to bench and repeat

>>720147017
It still takes my shards you fucker!

WHERE THE FUCK DO IN UNLOCK RUNNING

Is there some way to go around the Skarr Stalker on the way to the Beastfly boss? I heard there was some hidden pathway.

>>720147383
that's like the second upgrade you find nigger

>>720146650
Yeah it's a soft lock. Have to quit to main menu

>>720147446
FUCKING WHERE

where is pilby after pilgrims rest

>>720147302
Fuck, do I have to beat him in all games to get his memento?

>>720147217
I think so yes, if that's the connection to Exhaust Organ

>>720146464
The tool keybindings are so incredibly fucking awkward.

>>720147536
you have to beat him in all the fleatopia minigames, yes

>>720147383
>>720147446
>>720147481
turns out i ALREADY FUCKING HAD IT because the game NEVER EXPLAINS THAT DASH COMES WITH SPRINTING

also holy fuck jumping out of a sprint feels horrible

>>720147796
you might be retarded

>>720147796
>NEVER EXPLAINS THAT DASH COMES WITH SPRINTING
it literally does

>>720147796
Based retard. Last (You) before archive

>>720147796
You can air dash after you jump from sprint.

>>720147796
not even a skill issue, this is a synapse issue

Where do you get the grappling hook?

>>720148014
go through whiteward in the citadel

how long is this gauntlet
>5 waves
>miniboss
>5 more waves
>2 minibosses
its just so tiresome

>>720146795
Could you be more specific?

>>720148163
2 more after the 2 minibosses

What's up with the constant screaming in Act 3

>>720148163
probably the worst arena in the game. grapple the corner over the door and they cant hit you. abuse the openings

>>720144597
>lolno
lolyes
Casuals aren't fans. They're cattle whose opinions don't matter to people who're free from the need to make money.

>>720146920
This route was way better. Shellwood is a fucking troll. I got it first try with minimal clearing and about 50% time left; the route is practically empty as it is.

I'm about to fucking lose it with this ant queen bullshit
>only viable strategy is extremely precise pogoíng
>pogo too low and you move into her
>miss once and you get punished twice
>boss COSNTANTLY moves into you
This game would be a 100x times better if ALL contact damage was straight up removed from the game.

where the fuck is the snaresetter in weavernest alta? i talked to eva expecting her to give me it and she's just like "idk its somewhere lol go find it"
fuck you just tell me where it is you formless bitch

>>720148550
Are you truly a fan if you're not cutting off a finger after each death?

Does the architect also recharge plasmium and brew without deducting from the total?

>>720148660
i killed her in one try spamming tools with architect crest
the issue is definitely your build
if you're taking contact damage use a long range crest like reaper or shaman i guess

>>720148745
nevermind i found it. you have to go left from the elevator room

>>720146024
>little pilgrim thats too afraid to climb just stays in base camp
Think mine fucked off, I didn't see him at all when one of them attacked the camp.

>>720148865
>silksong is actually a puzzle game in disguise
It's Blue Prince all over again

Any act 3 fags wanna post their map? There's still tons of locations I haven't been to and I don't know how to get there.