Thread 720150660

>allow enemies to drop quest items before you start a quest
>halve all act 1 bench/fast travel rosary costs
>reduce tool shard costs
>fix moorwing cheese
>nerf poison
>increase lantern distance in the dark
>reduce slowdown/pause for emphasis on certain hits
>add option to reduce screen effects/vignette
Then it's a perfect game

Doesn't need any of that

>>720150660 (OP)
easy mode for real gamers like me

>>720150660 (OP)
There's a lantern?

Being constantly impoverished by pay to play public facilities is a lore thing and shouldn't be touched.

>>720150971
The loreshit would be the same, just adjust the amount

>>720150660 (OP)
>implying there will be a patch

Add ability to hotswap between 2 crests.

>>720150660 (OP)
Thank god you're not a dev. Jesus Christ, what are all these retarded changes.

>>720150660 (OP)
I wish those boring "collect 15 bear asses" quests didn't exist at all. Pure padding.

>>720150660 (OP)
please add a bell beast fast travel point in the citadel bell town

>>720150660 (OP)
>Increase lantern distance
There is a lantern????

Make it fun

>>720150660 (OP)
- Act One bosses and enemies no longer deal 2 masks of damage
- Hunter's March now has a bench before the encounter room
- Greymoor now has a bench before the Moorwing fight
- Some Act One rooms with Rosary Beads now have more beads on them

>>720151385
Lol. That shit would be broken as fuck because you'd just swap the second you walked into a boss room

>>720151850
>Act One bosses and enemies no longer deal 2 masks of damage
Shitter cope

How are people having trouble with moorwing? Is /v/ really THAT bad at games?

>>720151361
Hollow Knight got a lot of patches. Stuff like Cornifer's paper trail and humming wasn't there at release.

>>720150660 (OP)
you deliberately wrote this to piss people off

>>720151973
You misunderstand. There is a cheese where you can sit at the top and down attack and he can't hit you. Patch that

>>720151958
So?

>>720152384
Wouldn't that then make the game too easy?

>>720150660 (OP)
it needs to be just a little more accessible if it's gonna achieve a lasting legacy among the mainstream. It's gatekept with it's unrealistic difficulty.

>>720150660 (OP)
Get rid of the fucking shards. It adds nothing to the game and just limits how often you can use tools.

>>720151850
>Hunter's March now has a bench before the encounte room
Go left of the trapped bench retard
>Greymoor now has a bench before the Moorwing fight
The inn bench is fine, you literally get no opposition when going from there to him if you got the shortcut unlocked

>>720150660 (OP)
all I want is to remove contact damage on stunned bosses

2 masks damage being given out like candy is already punishing enough, getting nuked by grazing sister splinters asscheeks while its flailing on the ground is downright unfair

>>720151385
Getting to use the upsides of a crest with none of the downsides would be dumb.

>>720152523
That is 100% a skill issue with you

>>720150660 (OP)
>reddit list
man... this place has fallen...

i need the img with the yellow paint on silksong

>>720151969
I'm just thinking of player retention and basic game design difficulty scaling. It literally doesn't bother me at all.
>>720152518
The trapped bench is AFTER the encounter. And both run backs are just too long. It shouldn't take more than 2 minutes to get back to a fight that is going to kill most players.

>>720152120
That didn't change difficulty in any way.

Some slightly better signposting to not take Hunter’s March in the early game would go a long way.

I’d also make it so unlocked crests don’t auto-equip, it’s frustrating to not only have your moveset change but also lose all your pins until you find another bench.

Iframe on dash.
Remove currencies.
Move everything from shops to behind bosses or in the secret areas.
Change equipment wherever.

>>720152620
Thank god none of you was a DMC3 modder

>>720152924
>Some slightly better signposting to not take Hunter’s March in the early game would go a long way.
Hunter's March is a fucking walk in the park compared to mandatory shit later in the game. It's better to tear off the bandage now, it's barely even harder if you do it without dash.

>>720150660 (OP)
>Hey, sorry guys the bosses in Act 3 are meant to deal 3 masks of damage. This has been fixed.

>>720151785
filtered

>>720151958
Most bosses you don't even fight anything between the bench and the boss.

>>720153007
I knew it was a DMC tard.

>>720152960
>>720153082
That would be hilarious. Imagine the seething.

>>720152867
>The trapped bench is AFTER the encounter.
It's not though

>>720153049
It’s not harder piecemeal but the lack of benches makes it brutal for how early in the game it occurs. It’s obviously not the intended route pre-dash and pre-hover but when you look at player complaints, no other area catches so much shit consistently, and I think that’s because players are disproportionately taking it before they’re intended to. It’s a “speedrun skip” type shortcut that players are confusing for The Right Way, which doesn’t happen nearly as often as with the other branching paths.

I’d honestly put the red miniboss entrance behind a breakable wall. Just to make it clear “this is not the intended route”. You never see players accidentally taking Bilewater or Wormways even though they totally can, but it seems like as many or more took Hunters instead of going straight to Deep Docks.

>>720153334
Oh, then I remembered it wrong. Scratch that from my patch notes then.

>>720153368
No, it's really not that big of a deal man. There is a ton harder shit in the game, you don't need to go about things the easiest possible way. This preps you for later challenges.

You should probably just go watch a YouTuber play it if you think any of that is necessary. You don't like games, you aren't a gamer.

>>720153547
Games should get more difficult over time. Hunter’s March is probably the most obnoxious difficulty spike in the game (and with a huge fuck-you at the end), not because of how hard it is but because of how that difficulty compares to the areas before and after. You can’t just jam it in dry, nigger, you gotta spit on that shit first. It’s disingenuous to compare March to something like Sinner’s Road, which is also a very punishing section but which you’re going to find only by deliberately going out of your way to look for it, not by just moving forward in the first hour of gameplay.

>>720150660 (OP)
Patch it back into development. Maybe this time they'll release a decent game.
For a serious response:
>>allow enemies to drop quest items before you start a quest
Sure, I guess. The side quests are just gay busywork either way so it wouldn't really affect much.
>halve all act 1 bench/fast travel rosary costs
More like do away with the triple split currency idea entirely. Fucking retarded devs.
>reduce tool shard costs
This ties into the above point, but if they HAVE to keep it as is, then yeah.
>fix moorwing cheese
The game is artificially "difficult" in a lot of places so I don't think removing potential cheese is a good idea. The devs have also implied that they put stuff like that in on purpose.
>nerf poison
Eh, this one does genuinely just seem like a case of "Don't get poisoned then".
>increase lantern distance in the dark
Maybe. I haven't gotten the lantern yet so it'll depend on how limiting it is.
>reduce slowdown/pause for emphasis on certain hits
Yeah, I think that Zack Snyder shit is fucking gay, remove it entirely.
>add option to reduce screen effects/vignette
Sure, I guess, although I haven't been bothered by this at all.
Very mediocre game overall so far, I'd say it's a 4/10.

>>720152768
Bosses being able to do contact damage while they're stunned is bad design and if you disagree you're a fucking retard and I'm superior to you.

>>720152937
Giving the dash iframes would fucking trivialize the game. It's not like the first game, Silksong seems to be built around the dash NOT having iframes, so suddenly introducing them would reduce a lot of the difficulty to practically nothing.

>>720153903
holy shit shut the fuck up you whiny faggot. Nobody cares you just started the game, it's not that fucking hard and prepares you for far harder later shit.

If you are so retarded that you are both completely incapable of beating hunter's march, and completely incapable of not beating your head against the wall to try another path, then you deserve to ragequit, you aren't cut out for the rest of the game.

>>720153368
Anyone who fights the ant without a way to dodge his huge attack deserves what they get.

The only thing I don't like is bosses doing contact dmg while stunned.

>>720154164
>REEEEEEEEE STOP CRITICIZING MY EPICAL MASTERPIECE 12/10 BIG BOY "HARD" GAME
Retard

>>720154053
No, it's not, you are a whiny baby who needs your yellow paint

>>720154164
I’m halfway through Act 2, took a break to go back and clear out some optional routes that the claw unlocked, currently fighting Phantom. I still think early Hunter’s March is the shittiest experience I’ve had with the game. And the constant bitching about it on /v/ tells me it’s a mistake a lot of people have made. Why is your ego tied up in this anon?

>>720154261
>No, it's not
You're wrong. That's all there is to it.

>>720150660 (OP)
>halve all act 1 bench/fast travel rosary costs
Invest in necklaces and arm a bit.

>>720154236
>THIS GAME NEEDS TO CATER TO BABY RETARDS WHO BOTH SUCK AT THE GAME AND ARE TOO RETARDED TO EXPLORE OTHER AREAS FIRST!!!
fuck off idiot, go play a different game.

>>720154279
It's good that it filters people. It's not hard and there alternate paths you can take first. It's not an issue unless you're a retard.

>>720150660 (OP)
>money no longer explodes on spikes
>LET THE CHARGE ATTACK GENERATE SILK YOU FAGGOTS
There the game is now a 10/10

>>720152620
So instead you choose the crest with the more ups and less downs... wowzers.... im am so smart...

>>720154369
>strawman
I accept your concession.

I have avoided Silksong social media or threads up to this point, now I beat the final boss so I can check what people are saying. Why is everyone calling this game too hard? Only 1 boss took me more than 10 tries and was annoying to fight, the Bilewater fucker. The lava fly was also annoying to fight and the RNG spawns and ruined platforms feel shit but it took me less than 10 tries to beat it.
Most other bosses, including the final boss I beat in less than 5 tries. I only played through Hollow Knight 3 times and I beat P5 once, I'm not even some Hollow Knight autist that spent thousands of hours mastering the game.
Same for exploration, I've lost my beads a few times because I was impatient or because I got skill issued but I never felt like an area was unfair and I never had to backtrack just to get better gear for an area.
Only real issue I have is lack of beads.
Also where the fuck are the ornate keys? I haven't even found one yet.

>>720150660 (OP)
a bit more blue tools hidden around first act I guess, reds are alright, yellow are completely useless but there is barely any of the passive tools to chose from. I feel like first game gave you a bit more options to mix and match depending on what you are fighting.
Exploration is pretty disappointing if all you get is a handful of shards as a reward.

>>720154369
>go play a different game
Good advice considering most nonlinear platformers that exist are objectively better than Silksong.

>>720154369
>It's good that it filters people
Map 3 should not be your shitter filter. It’s too early and doesn’t teach anything useful. Especially because having a setpiece moment in it (the tag team fight with Shakra) reinforces the sense that it is “the right way” and not an early game skip intended for expert players on repeat playthroughs.

Funny how everytime you point to an obvious flaw silkshills will cry and piss their pants and call out for le hardcore maymay.
2 TOOLS
1 NAIL SKILL

>>720154613
Go ahead, point out the obvious flaw.

>>720154613
Use a different crest then you dumb nigger.

>>720150660 (OP)
I don't think they can really redeem it. The more I play the bigger the slog. It's actually too big, making the items you're finding be insignificant, which makes exploration feel terrible. It's cool to explore and find new areas but all the traps and (flying) emenies make it very hostile. I'm just exhausted at this point and want to be done.

If something does need fixing, it's Savage Beastfly's second fight where it can go offscreen.

>>720154613
Tell my an obvious flaw right now that isnt just you being bad at the game. Im waiting

>>720154553
It's not the right way or the wrong way, it's marginally harder if you do it first without upgrades, like loads of other areas in the game. If you suck so hard that you struggle for an hour on the same section, AND you are also too stupid to think to try another section first, then you 100% deserve it.

>>720154545
seething and filtered. go play them, we don't care.

>>720154751
You know anon, you dont have to binge the game. Alternatively you could just rush the bad end and stop your bitching

>>720154053
Isn't there contact damage from stunned bosses in the first game? Why are so many people sperging out about contact damage now? Is it just retarded FotM newniggers that didn't play the first game?

>>720154613
It's a bunch of fat, ugly, obese neckbeards who are utterly worthless in life and the only thing they can feel accomplished with is bragging (lying) about how good they are at some shitty indie game. It's the same reason everyone hates Soulsfags, they make the games their entire identity and lose their fucking minds if anyone criticizes them because to them it's a personal insult.

Add a bench to to run up to the gauntlet in bilewater

>>720154979
No one tell him

>>720154845
>filtered
Yeah, I tend to be filtered pretty hard by poorly designed games. Maybe if Team Cherry had talent as a dev team the game would be more fun, but it's just not. If you enjoy playing shitty, unfun games, good for you I guess.
>>720154869
No. Imagine accusing people of not playing the first game when you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>TO BE CONTINUED
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW

>>720154053
TRVKE
silkniggers btfo, go back to smelling your own farts like the retarded devs who insist you should waste a talisman slot to see yourself on the fucking minimap kek

>>720155013
I know about the broken one asshole

>>720155042
>poorly designed games
lmao, the cope you retards tell yourselves.

>Maybe if Team Cherry had talent as a dev team the game would be more fun, but it's just not. If you enjoy playing shitty, unfun games, good for you I guess.
boo hoo cry more bitch nigga

>>720155042
I have not played the first game in years but some bosses definitely do contact damage when stunned. I remember buff Zote damaging me when he gets stunned.

>>720150971
>sacrificing gameplay flow for lore
>>720150971
Fromsoft was a mistake

>>720155089
Anon...

>>720155178
Flowniggers once again proving why they're retarded.

Hollow Knight shouldve been gatekept. All these fucking secondaries that spend their whole day watching people play games instead of playing them themselves are trying this for the first time and are getting upset they don't have basic hand eye coordination. Maybe don't jump into the deep end if you can't swim.

>>720154448
>I only played through Hollow Knight 3 times and I beat P5 once
> I'm not even some Hollow Knight autist
kekaroo
stfu fucking sperg, you are already in the 0,1 percentile

Can you even evolve the non-hunter crests?

>>720155089
Kek. Look harder

>>720152436
No.

>>720153334
>>720153425
You can't access the entire right side of Hunter's March without doing the gauntlet as far as I can tell, the entrance from Deep Docks is locked until you open a door from the inside

>>720150660 (OP)
The fundamental problem of the game being too long and thus having very long stretches between acquiring abilities is not something that can be fixed. You should have the majority of crests and the hookshot before the end of Act 1 for example. It takes way too long to get any of the interesting stuff.

>>720155087
The compass being a talisman has been fucking gay since the first game. The map system in HK just generally sucks shit and makes the games not fun to explore, which immediately makes them bad games because that's the whole fucking point of a nonlinear platformer.

>>720155604
>exploring is having your eyes glued to a map the whole time
You don't actually like exploring.

>>720155156
Yes, the game is poorly designed. That's just a fact. And the fact that it gets you so bent out of shape tells me that you're aware of it too, but because you're one of the fatass neckbeards that >>720154946 mentioned, that upsets you so you have to pretend like it's some flawless, transcendent experience that is completely above criticism.

>>720155290
>beating the game is autism
Nice cope retard

>>720155687
I like exploring when the level design is good, which it isn't in this game. You're also not rewarded for exploring. It's simply a very bad "Metroidvania".

>>720155689
>Yes, the game is poorly designed. That's just a fact.
No, no the fuck it isn't. Your butthurt feelings a fact does not make.

That's what you still don't understand. You are a crying bitch nigga in your feelings whining about the game because you were too stupid to just take a step back and think
>"man I fucking suck. This is pretty tough, maybe I should try that other path first"

>>720154698
>Cant change between crests
>Cant change abilities
>Only 2 tools equippable out of 10+
>Forget quickswap, can't even change ON the menu you have to go to the time waster curated bench placed on 5 minutes away from you
>Map fills out AFTER being done with the exploration, essentially making it useless for exploring new areas.
>Currency economy is fucked, shops after Bellhart will ask for 2000+ beads to clean out inventory when you're most likely stuck in the 400's from all the benches, maps and gates you have to buy.
>No fast travel (No, walking 5 minutes to the nearest station and popping out 5 minutes away from your destination is not FAST travel)
>Nail upgrades are negligible
>No map progress to check previously obtained fleas
>Buyable map icons are useless, might as well use paper and pencil at this point, at least in that you can actually write what the mark means.
Buy HEY, at least you have a dedicated taunt button, so hardcore.

>>720156127
>NUH UH NO IT ISN'T
Yes it is. Your Latin American seething does not change reality.

>>720151958
That's the point.

>>720155813
beating the game once is normalfag.
beating the game three times + hardest challenge is turbo autism.
stfu spergnigger

>>720156141
>>Cant change between crests
not a flaw
>>Cant change abilities
not a flaw
>>Only 2 tools equippable out of 10+
not a flaw
>>Forget quickswap, can't even change ON the menu you have to go to the time waster curated bench placed on 5 minutes away from you
not a flaw
>>Map fills out AFTER being done with the exploration, essentially making it useless for exploring new areas.
not a flaw
>>Currency economy is fucked, shops after Bellhart will ask for 2000+ beads to clean out inventory when you're most likely stuck in the 400's from all the benches, maps and gates you have to buy.
not a flaw, you aren't meant to just buy everything
>>No fast travel (No, walking 5 minutes to the nearest station and popping out 5 minutes away from your destination is not FAST travel)
That literally is fast travel. Maybe you meant to say it doesn't have instant teleportation? retard.
>>Nail upgrades are negligible
not a flaw
>>No map progress to check previously obtained fleas
not a flaw
>>Buyable map icons are useless, might as well use paper and pencil at this point, at least in that you can actually write what the mark means.
not a flaw

Anyone who criticizes this game is a literal retard. There is quite literally nothing to fucking criticize

>>720156141
>Cant change between crests
A good thing. Not reading the rest of your drivel if you think having to commit to a playstyle is a flaw.

>>720156183
you were too stupid to just take a step back and think
>"man I fucking suck. This is pretty tough, maybe I should try that other path first"

Now you project and act like it's all the game's fault and you were in the right all along.

>>720150660 (OP)
>please nerf everything and hold my hand I'm too fucking impaired
LOL
LMAO

>>720155604
Amen.
>>720155687
cope silktranny
The intra-biome navigation is pure cancer when everything looks like the same 3 fucking tiles and 5 different doodads, which is still the case in this shit sequel
Seven(7) years dev time by the way!

>>720156293
>NO THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE GAME IT IS PERFECT AND UTTERLY FLAWLESS AND ABOVE CRITICISM
I hope you contract cancer

>>720150660 (OP)
This piece of shit is never getting any better. Play Dread instead so you can actually enjoy yourself.

>>720150660 (OP)
Honestly, just give the players an easy mode. Make it with no double damage, buffed upgrades (for example, base Hornet is the same, but her nail becomes twice as powerful instead of 1.5 times or whatever the fuck it was), and maybe make some mobs block less hits. As a detriment, make it so it doesn't unlock whatever obligatory Godmaster mode we'll get next. Doing that would put Silksong on the same difficulty level as the original Hollow Knight without making it too easy.
As it stands, the game is simply too difficult for the vast majority of people, and I say that as someone who never complained about soulslikes before. I can be mercilessly random and time-consuming, and not in a fun way. Beastfly might actually be the worst boss in the series, I defeated him by simply rerolling the spawns until he stopped spamming the fat knives faggots, and then I just went apeshit on him with all I had until he died. That's honestly just shitty boss design. On the other hand, I don't see a problem with the challenge of the Hunter's March (other than the booby trapped bench, that was just not the right time to troll the player like that).

OH N-

>>720156394
>so upset he had to copy-paste the second part of his earlier post
I'm also not the original guy you were talking to but you're too busy shoveling tacos down your throat to comprehend that you're talking to more than one person.

>>720156208
P5 is an ending dumb nigger, the hardest challenge is beating P5 with all bindings, then there's the Radiant statues which I didn't bother doing. Normal P5 is barely even a challenge.

>>720156141
>they hated him because he spoke the truth

>>720150660 (OP)
>playable loli hornet

>>720156293
>not a flaw, you aren't meant to just buy e-ACK!!

>>720156612
Nah they just respond like this braindead drone >>720156293 because that's what all of them are

>>720156583
You are a dumb nigger with no critical thinking lmao

>>720156697
>realizes he's a fucking moron who can't even tell when he's talking to a different person
>spergs out and accuses someone else of being dumb when he lacks pattern recognition
Which part of Mexico are you from?

>>720156809
having some projecting turd world mutt call me brown will never not be funny

>>720150660 (OP)
is poison OP?

>>720156904
>n-no u!
C'mon, which part?

>>720155687
The map is too simple to work without a compass it doesn't show you land marks or areas on it for each tile for you to know where on it you are at a glance especially since you don't see the entire elevation of the room your in on your screen.

>>720150660 (OP)
>reduce tool shard costs
This would be good. By the end of the game I just stopped using them because I was perpetually near 0 and it no longer felt worth it.

faggots

>>720157121
Having shards at all was a mistake. Simply limiting you by whatever amount you have between benches is good enough, like with the bone mask. I have no idea why they decided to add an additional resources like that, and the one that can't be recovered without grinding too.

>>720156332
>>720156293
the amount of sunk costs shills doing damage control for the amateur hour and medieval gameplay decisions of this shit game is amazing
Almost as amazing as the game journos already giving it 100 just to ride the hype (it's worse than HK which was at best a 8/10)

>>720157527
>it's worse than HK
retard alert

i hope they patch hornet to give her these proportions

>>720157569
>shill cant handle the truth
the sunk costs fallacy claims another one... many such cases. SAD!

>>720157527
I had fun playing a game. You on the otherhand are a dopamine starved zoomer spamming on a bot infested image board lol

>>720150660 (OP)
>add option to reduce screen effects/vignette
This is the only change you've suggested that is worth considering. The rest are horrible. Vignette on low HP is just hipster-brand red jelly.

>>720157885
You had fun playing an objectively bad game, which means you enjoy shitty things. That makes you a loser.

Remove the text that talks about how many people she's fucked in the past.

I hate hazards dealing 2 damage.
Lava can be mitigated with a tool, but I haven't found anything for everything else.

>>720154448
>Also where the fuck are the ornate keys?
There are not ornate keys. The ornate locks use separate keys and are unrelated.
The "ornate" lock in Whiteward is unlocked with a key found in a secret area within Whiteward. You can find it yourself.
The other "ornate" lock is related to the true ending, and since you don't know about it, that means the "final boss" you fought isn't the real final boss.

faggots

if you retards avoided talking to other people about the game and just formed your own opinions, you would come to threads like this and wonder what they're complaining about since you had such a great time over the last 50 hours. like i did

>>720158017
Git gud pansy

>>720157959
Why is removing the stupid slowdown such a bad idea? Do you jerk off to Marvel slop?

>>720158063
>wasted 50 hours of his life on a bad game
Embarrassing. My condolences.

>>720157959
Why the fuck would you not want quest items before a quest starts? It's fucking stupid enemies only drop items after the quest has started, so you have to farm the same mobs again after activating

>>720157885
>deflecting that hard
what are you doing here with us then, delusional nigger?

>>720156494
Nobody cares about Metroid anymore, and it's all Nintendo's fault.

>>720150660 (OP)
>reduce slowdown/pause for emphasis on certain hits
Don't play Astlibra.

>>720158227
i'm sorry but for first-time players (who the game is designed for) this is simply not a problem. you are just poisoned by the internet

>>720158227
Something something gitgud mixed with the sounds of that faggot gargling Team Cherry's cock

>>720150660 (OP)
How about a better final boss. The first game's is slaying a god that singlehandedly felled an entire kingdom. This game's is just an annoying brat.

>>720158362
>don't like pointlessly redoing shit because it just adds tedium and artificially pads playtime
>DURRRRRR U R LE POYSINNED BY TEH INTERWEBZ
I genuinely hope your family can one day move past the fact that they vomited such a worthless person into the world.

>>720156141
>Buy HEY, at least you have a dedicated taunt button, so hardcore.
this might be up there with "not seeing yourself on the minimap" most retarded decisions by farts-melling self-obsessed devs ever.
truly these niggers have totally lost the plot in their 7 years (lmao) of dev time

>>720158747
I think that's the most embarrassing bit to me. These fucking talentless hack clowns worked on this shit game for almost a decade and this is the garbage we got. Anyone who paid for it is retarded.

>>720158023
Neat I'll look for the first lock, is finding the true ending complicated? Or can I reasonably unlock it myself without any guides if I explore?

>>720158362
>for first-time players (who the game is designed for)
if that's actually the case, Team Cherry is comically fucking out of touch then kek
I guarantee you 95% of people who hasnt finished HK and bought this game on pure hype will never go past act 1 and never touch a TC game ever again.
Which the devs might not care anyway sure, they are filthy rich now. But they are done and dusted for the normies

>>720158362
>birds don't drop feathers unless you have arbitrarily accepted a quest and talked to some dickhead first
This is retarded. You are retarded. Fuck your pointless padding in an already massive game.

>silksong map is 50% bigger than HK
>there are 4 more masks to find in silksong
>45 charms in HK vs 56 tools in silk
>40 bosses in silk vs 42 in HK

why is the map so big while the increase in actual stuff is small?

I just want the pogo fixed, it feels awful on stick

>>720159075
SEVEN FUCKING YEARS LMAO

>>720158942
At some point a wish will show up at the Bellhart wish board. Maybe it can show up at Songclave too. It's basically a "Hey, here's the quest that unlocks the good ending". I'm not sure what causes it to appear, my guess is just fulfilling wishes.

>>720159075
Another huge problem I have with the game. You aren't rewarded for exploring because there's nothing to find, and what little you DO find is almost always fucking useless.
>go explore some creepy chapel
>find a gay fly boss
>kill it
>get a shitty crest that changes your moveset, makes the pogo unusable, and auto equips (can't change it until you get back to a bench LOL)
And then ten minutes later
>exploring shitty bird village
>platform all the way up to the top corner by bouncing on enemies
>find a little alcove with a few scribbles of useless "lore" that nobody gives a fuck about
>nothing else

It is such a shit game. It's unfathomably shit.

>>720159260
Alright, I still got some wishes left to do, I'll finish them and see if anything shows up.

>>720159364
You'll have the Coral Tower if you haven't found it already.

>>720159364
>>find a gay fly boss
>>kill it
>>get a shitty crest that changes your moveset,
bold of you to assume the boss will drop literally ANYTHING kek
It's even more funny because the specific boss you are talking about drops absolutely nothing (the reaper crest is from the chapel gank fight)
They couldnt even be arsed to make every boss drop like 50-100 beads.
I guess that what's you get when you live in a retardation bubble for 7 years with your 2 devs buddies and 6 playtesters...

>>720159075
The map is huge and half of it is literally empty space that dead ends with nothing there at all.

>>720150660 (OP)
a few more benches here and there

>>720159657
I wish I had known beforehand that there was absolutely no point in wasting my time on that faggot boss because I wouldn't have done it. It really feels like the game is actively trying to make me not enjoy it.

>>720159675
Don't worry bro just wait for the DLC that adds a bunch of shit to those empty areas, nothing like paying for a blatantly unfinished game amirite?
Team Cherry are some of the worst devs in existence

>>720159805
>B-But where's the dopamine hit? You expect me to have fun simply engaging with the content?
If you don't like the act of fighting the bosses themselves why are you even play the game

okay so, i completed the game
where are the bosses?

someone talked about some character "phantom", there was no phantoms in my game. where are the bosses? double-jump area has no boss, architect area has no boss, vault has no boss, conductor has no boss, and there was no bosses long before this

literally like in hollow knight: kill 3 dreamers, but they would be not bosses but just npc. there are too, gather 3 things from 3 guys but they are no bosses, no one will fight you. last 10 hours was pure platforming, i didn't even bothered to gather orbs, why would i need them.

>>720159957
>>720159675
not an argument, acquire skill

>>720159805
there is an exploit to kill that boss and I did it without any regret after seeing I would get absolutely ZILCH from it
didnt even feel bad, I just wanted the shitshow that is Act 1 to be over as fast as possible

>>720159976
Dumb TC cocksucker. The bosses are terribly designed. Savage Beastfly has 2 attacks, it just sways back and forth doing contact damage and summons ads that are also not fun to fight. That is the definition of lazy design, if you find it fun you're genuinely just stupid.

>>720160029
>that title screen
Unironically, you didn't beat the game.

>>720160051
Shit bait, do better next time, understand?

>>720150660 (OP)
Buff needle strike to give silk. It currently sucks and is just worse than a normal attack because of that.

>>720159976
but what if I dont want to eat the bowl of shit that was served to me instead of a good meal? what then?

>>720160112
yea i think i need to go somewhere, there was some doors, some stuff to buy, quest, maybe some bosses too

>>720150660 (OP)
>>720150873
Halve all enemy damage

>>720160029
You didn't beat the game.
There's an Act 3 aka the true ending route

>>720159805
At least you get something from that fight, unlike the ant gang at the top of that area, where you get literally nothing but a few anal beads. They could have easily put an item from the ant vendor up there as a reward, but no, fucking nothing.

>>720161050
The whole point of more challenging sections like bosses or platforming madness is to reward the player for completing said challenge and Silksong just doesn't do that. It's a really fucking baffling design decision.

>>720161050
it looks like he is talking about Moorwing and you get nothing from the fight. not even 1 anal bead kek

>>720158175
More productive than spending the same amount of time seething on /v/ about a game you aren't even playing.

>>720150937
pretty sure he just means the light you get around yourself in dark areas

>>720161206
>y-you criticized my favorite game SO YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IT
Midwit response

>>720151515
How are fixing a cheese or giving you the option to reduce the annoying vignette you get at 1 health bad changes?

>>720161121
it's even funnier because you would always get at least some currency in HK.
Here? Not even one speck of shit
litteral backward design from the NES era

>>720161342
Yeah I remember bosses exploding into the SINGULAR currency that you used in HK. I don't think a boss has actually dropped anything upon death so far in Silksong.

Give beast crest blue slots. Don't fix cogfly exploit.

Why does anybody care about Moorwing? I had to struggle to even remember what boss it was because it's a complete non-threat.

>>720158747
Taunt lures flying enemies

>>720161418
the second currency is so fucking stupid:
>it's some kind of ammo system
>but it's also needed in quests/crafts
>it has some infinite spawns over the world
>but you can only carry 400 max
like wut
why is that shit so fiddly and convoluted? garbage amateurish game design

>>720161675
Apparently there are 3 currencies, the beads that you use to buy shit, the shards that you use for crafting, and the shells are ammo for the shitty sub weapons.
I don't know what the fuck they were thinking.

Only actual complain I have is all the fucking minion arenas right before most bosses like let me fight the fucking ant not her down syndrome brothers

>>720161489
probably because it's hyped to be an important fight (you can do a long sidequest to post-pone it and you even get an npc to fight it) and it actually gives you nothing, zero, zilch, nada...
quite memorable, as far as shit design go
Four Chorus is also up there but at least it "gives" you the floating cloak tutorial

WHERE is the bilewater map holy FUCK this place SUCKS

>>720161675
>Having a hard time with a boss? Just use tools.
>Oh having such a hard time your shards ran out because we subtract some every revive? Just beat the boss without tools, you'll learn faster that way
At this point tools are just for the trailers and to make the game seem more complex. I never get to use them to actually beat a tough boss, I'm empty long before the final attempt and I'm diametrically opposed to farming

>>720162003
I just use them on annoying enemies that I don't want to deal with.

>>720161949
If you're there before Act 2 don't waste your time.

>use the third key on the slab
>find some cell locked and covered in web
>this is a bad idea, I know it
>go for it
>first sinner
>it's basically the pure vessel but on turbo crack
>mfw

The double damage is the N°1 issue with this game.

>>720162003
>>720162129
the epitome of "padding" and "artificial difficulty"
aka: shit devs.

>>720150660 (OP)
>Contact damage is always 1 unless you touch a spike hitbox
>Weavelight actually helps you see in the dark

>>720162336
especially the double damage on environmental traps...
makes you wonder how much crack did they smoke in the last seven years?

ANYBODY who defends taking contact damage from knocked-down ennemies needs to be shot in the head. simple as

>>720162558
That's not even difficult, it's just more punishing. It's like going through hollow knight with the dlc Bosh russ impediments, it's just useless padding.

Dunno why they didn't put these "difficulty features" behind some charms so everyone is happy.

it would appear that in my aged state I no longer have the patience to get gud. I am tired of playing through this shit over and over and not making any progress.

>>720162336
moreso the fact that first mask upgrade does fuckall, it's such a trek to get what's essentially a cosmetic update until you get another one, they were really afraid of giving you some sense of progression.

>>720162672
Did hollow knight have this? I don't remember it. I think I remember some bosses having it and being weirded out because most bosses didn't have it.

>>720150660 (OP)
rework of the crest and tools, this shit is just bad.
I can make mod with better shit for few months, let alone 7 years.

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>720162679
There is no git gud but useless padding. They could perfectly put a bench outside of the last judge. The fight would be the same and challenging, but then you would beat it in less time because you don't have to do the same 30 seconds route ignoring enemies.

>>720162828
Ok, do it. Right now

>>720162694
People saying "but you heal 3" don't take into account you need more silk to heal, it takes longer and you can have suboptimal healing (if you only get 1-2 damage)

>>720162937
Pay me and you can consider it done.

>>720162828
>>720162937
People already did mods that fix the game in like a day

Why did they make the bugs so sexy in this game?

>>720162003
They are great for the enemy gauntlets. For bosses there is no point using them until you've already hit it at least 50 times.

>>720163224
I don't need to take less damage, I need fun combat with cool abilities.

>>720150660 (OP)
Fix the missing platforms being gone forever if Moorwing crashes into them in his arena

>>720162937
why are you shilling for TC? they are not good devs and their shit coding is easy as fuck to mod, as proven by all the silksong's mods already out after 3 days.

Are we supposed to counter like sekiro? it didn't feel needed in HK, but there are enemies here that corner you and the only way out is through. Dmp2j

WHERE IS THE 3RD KEY OF THE PRISON?

>>720163963
In the prison

>>720150660 (OP)
Reviewers are calling it a 10/10 perfect game, and here you are telling them to fix it. Autist.

>>720162336
It's only really bad on contact damage, especially if the enemy is a fat fuck. I had situations where I received contact damage twice in a row so 80% of my HP just vanished.
Contact damage is terrible design anyway but the game was built around it and most enemies wouldn't worjk without it.

>>720164075
Oh wow, REVIEWERS are saying [thing]? That must mean it's a fact!
Fucking drooling retarded piece of shit, have you ever had an original thought in your worthless, empty head?

>>720163963
hidden room in putrified ducts

>>720164010
WHICH ROOM? WHICH ROOM?

>>720164075
People called it the best game ever when they didn't even play for 30 minutes.

>>720164331
the one with the huntresses house in it

>>720163482
>Do that one wish to find the missing bug
>The trail leads me up somewhere I can't get to because the platforms are permanently destroyed
This has to be a bug

>>720164327
>>720164553
Thanks nigger.

>>720164316
>>720164408
So what, you think a 3-man indie team bribed every reviewer? They’re not some big corp that can rig the scores.

>>720163482
>>720164657
Shit like this and the run backs prove that no one ever playtested it.

>>720164756
No, I think you're a fucking moron for implying anything reviewers say is worthwhile.
Now go kill yourself.

>>720164756
>strawman
I win. You may kneel now.

>>720164836
>>720164906
You "win" nigga. A random faggot's hot take is DEFINITELY more credible than the entire games media combined.

>>720152867
>It shouldn't take more than 2 minutes to get back
And It doesn't, just run and jump over enemies nigga

>>720165630
>literally worshiping game reviewers
You are the definition of a midwit.

>>720165630
>entire games media
I'm not him, IDK what you are arguing about but the entire games media is less relevant that the shit I produced 20 min ago.

>>720154869
That shit pissed me off in HK too
>Use sharp shadow
>Dash through Pure Vessel to dodge and get a free hit in
>Hit the stun gate and his staggers backwards into me
>Two masks of touch damage
At least that was an endgame boss but still. Touch damage is lazy shit that doesn't belong in a game that supposedly prides itself on combat

>>720150660 (OP)
I want more vocals. I wanted nonstop SHAW SHAW ADIDO GAREVAH. Real bing bing wahoo shit.

>>720166316
Yeah it was fun pogoing on grey prince and triggering his stun state which involves launching up in the air directly into you

>>720166446
This but unironically.

>>720166446
paravoz
mooshka
barishkaba
poshanka

I've yet to see a compelling argument for why the map system being a shittier, more obtuse version of maps that exist in every other game is a good thing. It always comes down to misplaced gamer pride or "it's good because it's different"

>>720166697
git gud bitch

>>720166749
Yeah that's the misplaced pride where you mistake inconvenience for difficulty

>>720166697
Team Cherry cocksuckers don't have a high enough IQ to craft a coherent defense for that shit even if you combine them together.

>>720166697
by the way can i see on the map, like, entrances to secret areas or something? i miss like, lots of areas, maybe half of the map, but i dont know where are the acess

>>720166697
>awwww what's wrong? babby needs a map? PFFFTTTTTT le gitgud xD

>Pay for bench in sinners road
>It's broken
>Path to fix it is hidden behind a breakable wall that isn't marked in any way and is near the ceiling of the room
>And it's another annoying pogo sectioon

>Can't find greymoor boss
>Already on Sinner's road
I'm looking up and down all over the place ...
Also what's the best use for simple keys, I wasted the shop one for the wormways and it's kinda shit desu.

Green P. or Deep docks?

>>720167027
As gay as Sinner's Road is it's also a totally optional challenge area as far as I know.

>>720167052
If you moved the flea caravan the Greymoor boss apparently fucks off to a different location and it won't trigger until you reach Act 2.
If you DIDN'T move the flea caravan I guess God just hates you.

>>720166697
There is quite literally nothing wrong with the map in either Hollow Knight or Silksong and I mean that wholeheartedly

>>720167027
Pogo sections are overstaying their welcome at that point.

>>720167052
The wormways is the best one since it's an almost effortless skip into Shellwood once you get dash. The one in Deep Docks isn't really worth it unless you want the flame tool buff but it's not like the Prince does much until the end of the game anyway so it doesn't matter that much

>>720167190
>I am retarded and I mean that wholeheartedly
I see

>>720167183
>If you moved the flea caravan the Greymoor boss apparently fucks off
This is bulllshit, who the fuck thought that was a good decision REEEE.

>>720167190
Having to buy a map just for the privilege of being allowed to fill it out yourself is stupid, but outside of that it's just annoying.

>>720167183
>If you DIDN'T move the flea caravan I guess God just hates you.
It stops spawning if you ever enter its arena from Bellhart for some reason

>>720167329
Really glad these fucking clown ass devs tested their shitty indie slop that they spent 7 fucking years making lmao
Imagine being a dumb fuck who paid for this shit

>>720166316
Without contact damage the game would be way to easy desu. You could just pogo any boss without a jump attack and never die, especially in SS with the midair heal.

>>720167419
It's specifically the fact that a fucking stunned boss can still do contact damage. I'm generally okay with it otherwise but that's just retarded.

>>720167294
The game is full of this shit, enjoy your 10/10 sequel!

>>720167419
There'd be additional balancing required for sure, and to compensate bosses could be more aggressive. It's just a stupid system to have when the game focuses so much on combat AND your primary attack is a very short range melee. And it gets even worse when they start having touch damage do two masks for no reason

>fighting Sister Splinter
>beating the fuck out of her
>she stuns
>falls out of the ceiling and does 2 masks of damage
This game is so incredibly shit

>>720167250
>wormways
Speaking of that, anything worth it besides the plasmium?

Like a Boss or something? Maybe I should just go to the citadel

>>720152937
>I-I need my rollslop! I can't... I can't handle the game without my rollslop!

>the double damage from nearly everything together with a very backloaded availability of health upgrades means you don't feel getting any tougher as the game progresses until you're deep into act 2
>instead you get the silk capacity upgrades all over the place which are USELESS AS FUCK thanks to traversal tools using silk, you cannot physically build a silk pool between encounters because clawlines will reset it to null
>sword upgrades are even worse, enjoy having to hit enemies 8 times to kill them until late game
>crests just break what could've been a single awesome moveset into a huge number of chunks, and since you cannot hotswap between them, there's virtually no reason to use crests with shit pogo because aerial combat is very important for any encounter and traversal
>magic is garbage with a singular exception of a late game spell
>but tools are held back by the retarded crafting system, if you actively use your tools you will never refund their cost via simple exploration, meaning you need to grind for resources, and god help you if you want to use them in boss battles
>there are stretches were 3-4 minibosses in a ROW use infinite adds to create a semblance of difficulty for encounter
>map is dreadful, pins may as well be useless because they are so big placing them anywhere will completely obscure that segment of the map
>charm system is even a bigger piece of shit than it was in the first game and it makes sure no weaker or "funny" charm will ever earn its place in your arsenal because of how limited the slots are
This is what happens when you spend years sniffing your own farts and getting zero outside perspective on your project. The vast majority of these systems were better done in the first game. Absolutely terrible.

>>720167419
To me contact damage is fine, and so is some enemies dealing two damage, but both combined is retarded

>>720167419
There are several modern metroidvanias like Last Faith that don't use contact damage and they are not particularly easy because they actually make enemies threatening enough.

>>720167725
There's the one Weaver door but that's about it until later

>>720167391
This is expansion, not new game build from 0. The majority of engine related bugs were fixed in the first game.

>>720152867
>player retention
this is a singleplayer game
player retention is irrelevant

>>720166316
At least pure vessel has a small hitbox. I'm fine with it. Not with silksong

>>720168092
>player retention is irrelevant
Didn't you see the "To be continued" in the end of the game?
Player retention is crucial for building cult like the one that souls games have.
NTA

>>720166697
i don't see the problem with it aside from compass being a charm instead of built in
very few areas actually hide the map somewhere difficult to access, and you can always tell where the map lady is because she leaves a trail of rings you can follow so you're not going to just miss her

>>720164075
>trusting game journos in 2025
I hope this is bait, you cant possibly be this retarded kek
btw let me tell you why this game is getting perfect reviews despite being à 7-8/10 at best: game journos are literally dying to AI and the (justified) lack of faith of the gaming community so they saw the (retarded) hype of the SEVEN YEARS DEVS INDIE WONDER ZOMG game sweeping twatter and now they attempt to ride the hype wave in total bad faith... hoping faggots die-hard fans like you will suck their dicks and axe-wounds into relevance again.

>>720169041
The people who dicksuck this shit game genuinely are that stupid. It likely isn't bait unfortunately.

>>720167193
especially when the pogo controls are this fucking bad
I had an easier time 100%ing Super Meat Boy.

>>720167824
insanely based post full of TRVKES

>>720167824
traversal tools that you NEED to move around the map utilizing a limited supply is fucking bizarre design

>>720169462
Fuck off /dbs/pic

>>720150660 (OP)
remove 2 mask contact damage
holy fuck

>>720169761
>fucking bizarre design
SEVEN YEARS KEK
I mean, you gotta respect this level of grift. They are litteral millionaires now because they managed to turn a mid game and a turd sequel full of bronze age game design into a cult phenomenon with some trannycore lore...
It's Deltarune all over again, except not even ironic.

Filtered. Filtered. Filtered.
None of you are without sin.

>>720170035
whats the trannycore lore? I know about the text blurb about how she's had multiple men before

>>720156504
>Does as much damage as an energy beam from the literal god of light.

>>720170095
It's a bad game. Cope below.

>>720170192
Yet it's you who copes by trying to convince yourself it's the game that's bad and not your lack of prowess. Filtered.

Games more tedious than fun, and that exploding boss being an insta kill on death is the dickest of moves.
Trash game.
>GIT GUD
Yea yea.

>>720169761
They could've easily made clawlines use their own resource, like a stamina bar with a short regeneration or something. Instead they completely ruined the healing system. It already feels in High Halls and by the gods i dread to think how much worse it's going to make the game later.

>>720170279
>n-no u
Braindead midwit response from a Team Cherry cocksucker. Imagine my shock.

>>720156942
It is incredibly overpowered and poison cogflies trivialize every single fight in the game.
That combo in particular is going to receive a nerf.

>>720170279
What prowess makes you not use supplies when moving around the fucking map?

>>720169989
>be me
>get to flying bug boss
>manage to knockdown the boss for the third time
>"surely the end is near!"
>gets a little too close while wailing on boss
>instant 2 masks damage on contact
>boss recovers from knockdown at the same time
>instant 2 masks contact damage again
>I dead
>turns off game
>uninstall game
>feelsgood.jpg

>>720169989
Simply respect the boss. If it's just 1 mask, most bosses becomes a tanking mashing joke.

>>720159075
So they can do retarded shit like hide the Wisp Thicket.

>>720170370
god forbids you actually do damage in this shit game instead of needing 65 hits to kill a boss...

>>720170514
>>720170390

>>720151973
I guess I am. I had to fight that motherfucker like 15 times before I beat it even with the old guy "helping" maybe. I might be getting to old for games like this I'm 45 and this game hurts my fucking hands. But I just beat his ass an hour ago so I'm still getting there.

>>720170621
that's great sport. ill put a star on the fridge for you.

>>720170581
Yeah, it's just more evidence of the game's questionable balance. I guess the argument for keeping it is that it lets you just buy progression.

>>720170514
what the fuck are you talking about nigger? explain to me how you can facetank a boss while taking CONTACT DAMAGE every tick+attacks.
Beast lifesteal will not save you retard

>>720156141
>NOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS, I WANT EVERYTHIUNG AVAILABLE TO ME ALL THE TIME EVERYWHERE, GIVE ME EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW NOW NOW NOOOOOOOOOW

>>720170673
>no argument
Every time.

>>720167651
Just move aside? Its a giant fucking bug, of course it's gonna hurt if it falls down on you.

Why the bloody fuck does the beast even exist? Challenge runs? That healing system is unusably shit.

>>720170630
I just cheesed him.
You dont repect my time, I dont respect your shit game (which I pirated btw kek)

>>720170370
Cogflies also reset their health whenever you move between rooms. Very exploitable during exploration.

>>720170838
>Team Cherry dicksucker uses another caps lock strawman spergout in lieu of an actual defense of this objectively badly-designed game

>>720170761
>take hit
>spam weaver nail with the flea potion
>5 nail hits by the time you recover
>repeat
>heal
>repeat previous loop
skull tyrant is suddenly trivial.

>>720170854
where ur argument bitch? >>720170761

>>720170863
You mouthbreathers really will say any kind of stupid shit to pretend this indie slop is flawless, huh
>>720170880
Yup, I said I was going to buy it after pirating if it was actually good, but it's not so I won't. It's actually a horrible game and the people who bought it are fucking stupid

>>720170514
>If it's just 1 mask, most bosses becomes a tanking mashing joke.
You are not surviving any encounter doing that

>>720170919
He's literally just quoting him though?

>>720170997
>links to a post I didn't make
You Silkslurpers really are low IQ. Like sub 60 IQ.

Bring contact damage back down to 1

>>720170880
Pirated, played 15 hours or so, realised that the combat doesn't improve at all and that crests are shit, deleted.

>>720159075
>silksong map is 50% bigger than HK
Source?

>>720171053
>retard is now pretending to be someone else AND pretending he quoted something that was not said anywhere in this post >>720156141
How much is Team Tranny paying you? It can't be much, I imagine they have to save most of their money for dilators and HRT.

is it me or bench placement fucking sucks?
Also was HK really this boring during the first hours?

>100% Steel Soul achievement
yeah... good luck with that...

>>720171141
>suddenly trannies out of nowhere

>>720170942
>>heal
and here is the lie kek

I hate patch culture.

It'd be far funnier if the devs agree and just don't do anything other than future dlc and fixing the Chinese translation.

>>720171198
So you're shilling this garbage for free? Holy embarrassing.

>>720150660 (OP)
>>nerf poison
fuck off

>>720167824
The smelter merchant guy in the docks sells unlimited shard bags btw. Stock up on a shitload of those because they're basically the best thing you can buy.

>>720170361
Acquire skill, bitch.

>>720155178
>>sacrificing gameplay flow for lore
If you didn't keep dying on repeat you wouldn't be poor and it wouldn't affect your "flow" at all.

>>720150660 (OP)
remove all benches
make contact damage deal twice as much
make all enemies deal four times as much damage
make all currencies much more scarce
make hornet slower

>>720171175
HK was actually pretty boring at the start too but it was kinda novel with charming graphics and way easier so you dont remember.
Now everybody can see the Emperor is naked with Silksong.

>>720171376
>another braindead phoned in copy paste post from a Team Cherry cocksucker
It's like talking to a bot.

>>720171283
I honestly don't get the appeal of following the script like this. I gave it an earnest attempt, but it's just the same back and forth over and over again. I hope you find another partner to trade (You)s with anon, I know how important it is to you.

>>720171175
HK was far more boring at the start.

>>720150660 (OP)
Take out contact damage from enemies, there's no excuse for any sidescroller released after the 2000s to have that shit

>>720171441
>can't defend his shitty game so he runs away while pretending he was just shitposting
Literally every single time.
I won.

Are you ready for a Pantheon of Pharloom?

>>720170152
look no further that the genderless Vessel you play in HK and the various metamorphosis of many important characters like Pale King... it's all downhill into the tranninsanity from there, as you can gather from twatter troons arguing about the Vessel pronouns.

>>720167824
>>the double damage from nearly everything together with a very backloaded availability of health upgrades means you don't feel getting any tougher as the game progresses until you're deep into act 2
Skill issue
>>instead you get the silk capacity upgrades all over the place which are USELESS AS FUCK thanks to traversal tools using silk, you cannot physically build a silk pool between encounters because clawlines will reset it to null
You just said why it's useful dipshit
>>sword upgrades are even worse, enjoy having to hit enemies 8 times to kill them until late game
What, are you supposed to one-shot enemies in endgame?
>>crests just break what could've been a single awesome moveset into a huge number of chunks, and since you cannot hotswap between them, there's virtually no reason to use crests with shit pogo because aerial combat is very important for any encounter and traversal
I got true ending and almost never use pogo in combat
>>magic is garbage with a singular exception of a late game spell
No the fuck it isn't, maybe use it instead of bitching bosses are too hard
>>but tools are held back by the retarded crafting system, if you actively use your tools you will never refund their cost via simple exploration, meaning you need to grind for resources, and god help you if you want to use them in boss battles
They are meant to be used conservatively, plus you can buy shard bags anyways...
>>there are stretches were 3-4 minibosses in a ROW use infinite adds to create a semblance of difficulty for encounter
Boo hoo bitch nigga
>>map is dreadful, pins may as well be useless because they are so big placing them anywhere will completely obscure that segment of the map
The fuck are you looking at the map for aside from a general overview of the area? Pins don't obscure that at all.

>>720171508
That was a falseflagger actually, but alright. Where's your counter argument beyond "Y-y-you're m-m-mocking me t-t-t-oo m-m-m-much"? You're a baby.

I dont know if im too stupid to solve this or im missing a part of the puzzle.

If I went the alternate route nothing bad happens to Sherma, right? Like he isn't gonna have to face off against the boss in my stead?

>>720171718
You didn't present an argument to be countered, you turned on caps lock and smashed your keyboard like an obese black >>720170838

I think hunter's march fucking sucks, did I miss something if I'm still stuck with basic movement options?

>>720171836
It get easier the more you play, just came back again later. There isn't anything you really need from there that's super important.

>>720171802
And it's 100% correct. Your response? Crying like a bitch because I didn't suck your dick.

>>720171175
HK is digital melatonin for 80% of the game

>>720171935
>a-a-actually my retarded strawman IS an argument b-because...um...
You lost (again).
>i-it was a falseflagger
Sure, champ.

>>720171760
They have to connect from top to bottom, just do trial and error until they make picture where 3 of the connect with lines that match

I skipped mooorwing can I still fight him in chapter 1?

>>720172053
actually direction doesn't matter

>>720171760
it's a dumb puzzle. you just figure out how they line up properly while being inconvenienced by the diminishing platforms.

>>720172096
After the caravan moves, yeah.

>>720171836
all the platforming is shit without wanderer's crest so you can play the game how it's meant to be

>>720172035
>Misquoting
>Declaring victory after grand humiliation
>Lacks any sense of good faith
Copium in high demand there buddy? Sorry that your post was correctly assessed as a baby stamping its feet, but facts are facts.

>>720172185
what do I need to do for it to move? Liberate bellhart?

>>720171495
Fuck off zoomer

>>720171696
>What, are you supposed to one-shot enemies in endgame?
Yes.

>>720172232
It's a good way to force the player to get decent at platforming early, because even with wanderer's, it isn't going to get much easier. I'm on that shit since I got it, though. Fantastic crest and should be used more. Hard platforming? I pogo. Boss? I pogo. Random flying enemies I pogo pogo pogo.

>>720172245
>>Misquoting
But enough about (You) and your pathetic attempt to argue via strawman.
>slurp slurp slurp
Say it again with Team Cherry's dick in your mouth, I don't speak faggot.

>>720171913
so this is not the main path?

>>720150660 (OP)
I want them to patch the Groul cheese, weaken tools, and make every bench pay to use instead of some being pay to unlock. Also getting hit on the delivery quests should auto fail them, instead of just being a time penalty.

>>720172053
Yeah thats what i thought but this sucks so much ass.

>>720172232
it's actually insane how bad Hornet's movesets is for plateforming compared to the Knight's. sadly hilarious when she is supposed to be THE agile character.
But at least she compensates by being... shittier at combat too, actually. I think TC are just misogynists kek

>>720171696
>Skill issue
It has nothing to do with skill. It's a matter of not feeling any stronger.
>You just said why it's useful dipshit
Except it's fucking not. Having a few more threads doesn't matter when you have to clawline 20 more times.
>What, are you supposed to one-shot enemies in endgame?
If only there was a middle ground between oneshotting and having to do 8 hits to take down smaller enemies.
>I got true ending and almost never use pogo in combat
Congrats on not utilizing one of the best combat mechanics. Wait, are you trying to brag about this, faggot?
>No the fuck it isn't, maybe use it instead of bitching bosses are too hard
Yes it fucking is, the spells are shit, especially compared to HK's. They are almost never worth the silk.
>They are meant to be used conservatively, plus you can buy shard bags anyways...
They are meant to be a shit system that incentivizes even more farming? Sounds like a terrible system.
>Pins don't obscure that at all.
They are fucking gigantic and can easily obscure passages.

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>720172373
Just some beads that's being guarded by the big ant. Just skip it and come back when you need to start filling up your bestiary.

>Beast fly but the floor is lava
THIS FUCKING SUCKS

>>720172505
Hornet is also a glass canon. I guess the tiny Knight, is just tankier than Hornet because literally everything takes a bite out of her.

>almost 400 posts
>one half are shitters crying about difficulty
>other half are fags who probably didnt even play the game baiting
yup, certified /v/idya classic

>>720172385
I cheesed everything I could cheese and used poison for every boss I could.
I also pirated your shit game, what are you gonna do about it faggot?

>>720150660 (OP)
when do I unlock a fucking parry in this dogshit game?

>>720172695
"glass canon" supposes you are doing crazy damage tho.
she doesnt, she is just uber shit compared to Knight and mogged at every turn

>>720172585
eeeh I just got a sprint ability so it was worth it I guess

>>720172781
There is, funnily enough, a parrying silk skill. It's not very easy to use. I ignored it forever 2 minutes after getting it.

>Keep trying to shade cloak through enemies even though I know Hornet can't do that
I haven't played Hollow Knight in years, and yet it still taking some time to shake bad habits.

>>720150660 (OP)
Extremely small issue, but get rid of the fucking walls on these elevators. I cant even get to the other side unless I go inside it. Wasting my goddamn time

>>720172843
After beating a nigger boss with 7.4% cheevo rate, doesnt matter the parry is shit and not worth using over the AoE or the Dash nail skill.

>>720172843
are you retarded? she's so much faster than the little faggot and with the addition of the silk attacks + the tools shes a fucking menace

This should not have been a full game. It should have just been a short DLC.

>>720150660 (OP)
Either nerf enemy health or increase the nail and silk attack damage
random starting area mooks take 4 hits to kill even flying bastards pestering you with projectiles take 4 hits and half of those motherfuckers hit you for 2hp

I have no idea why they fucked up the hp charge attack magic cost benefit from the first game
The prvious allowed you to nuke bosses with spells at the risk of loosing your extra healths that gave you wide margin for error
This game discourages wasting mp in mediocr attack spells in case you may a recharge wich gives you very little margin for error

>>720172781
>>720172936
Missed the mark, damn.

>>720172957
You can cope all you want you fucking gay homosexual but Hornet sucks ass

>>720151515
OP made a list of trainer settings and said "this should be a patch"

Usually for retardation this profound you need to make a real effort, like concerted inbreeding or radiation

>>720172931
there is secret tunnel on the other side, you don't need to run around

NGbro here. We prefer your game over Last SHIT Aside. Silksong is perfect as is. It doesn't need a patch.

>>720151632
There is one lol, first thing I unlocked in the citadel. Stay mad.

>>720172957
>she's so much faster than the little faggot
This is true
>>720172957
>with the addition of the silk attacks + the tools shes a fucking menace
This is untrue.
She doesnt even reach 45% damage of my glass canon "mage" build in HK, so stfu silktranny

>>720173027
Yeah, mine.

>>720170630
Moorwing was tough anon, and there's no shame in getting old. I'm 30 and recovering from a hand injury. I keep pushing through and beating bosses.

Fight on anon, for if we find your husk lying broken and songless, your efforts will inspire our tired limbs and ragged minds to carry us on to that shining Citadel.

>>720154192
are you not supposed to poggo his ass or parry?

>>720159364
I bought more shit from stores compared to getting shit from bosses or gang rape arenas.
TC cant into the fundamental design philosphy of the genre

>>720173384
no you retard. dodge away from his two swipes, dodge under when he jumps.

>>720170761
Facetanking and outhealing Unravelled was easier once I realized I could do it with wanderer. Didn't even use flea brew, that would have been embarrassing for those dead bugs.

>>720172931
anon, that particular elevator becomes entirely irrelevant and can be left down if you only progress to the right

>>720172998
>I have no idea why they changed the healing
>Sequel with different lore, mechanics and pacing
>Gee whillikins I wonder why those dumb cunts have gone and done that then

>>720159976
You absolute fucking retarded niggerfaggot. Is Basedsong your first metroidvania~like?

>>720170630
You now there are guys who are like 60 and in the Olympics and shit, I don't think commercially marketable games demand that much, seems like you're still going alright if you beat him that quick. I'd imagine a lot of kids half your age were stuck for longer.

>>720171238
what
>lie
are you talking about? That is part of the unga bunga playstyle.

>>720173539
>*SCHLURP SCHLURP SCHLORP SCHLURP*
>OHHHHHH YES TC FUCK MY THROAT DEEPER

>have 4 muckroaches chasing my ass through an area
How do they even trap these things let alone eat them when they literally do backflips every time I try to approach them?

>>720162003
>I'm diametrically opposed to farming
The only correct answer. This shouldnt be a part of the game in the first place

>>720150660 (OP)
I'm on act 2 and the hardest boss so far took me 6 tries, but I think the amount of iframes you have after getting hit is really retarded. Other than that the game is fine.

>>720173432
dodge how? is there a dodge ability?

>>720150660 (OP)
Stuff that'd never happen, but I'd like it if they gave us unlimited rosaries and items that gave us the location of 100% objectives after getting the true ending. I found no more joy in aimlessly running over the map trying to find things I missed at that point because I had already taken on all of the challenges the gameplay had to offer.

>>720173627
Mine immediately goes to dicks instead of refuting.

I accept your concession and that you're bad nigga, even if you can't. Uninstall and go back to mobile gacha.

>>720150660 (OP)
Just remove 2 damage from hazards and the little guys
Let big fucks and bosses be the big hitters

>>720173746
>Finish game
>Unlock Mansa Musa mode

>>720172957
Yeah those retards don't have a clue Hornet power mogs the knight shrimp so hard it's not even funny. An Architect Hornet doesn't even have to interact with most bosses if they choose not to

I'm about to go into Bilewater properly. Be real, how fucked am I? I have double jump and a fair bit of gear.

Can't patch the boring art and environment design.

>>720173828
Exactly! Why not? Most people are just going to look up where to find the remaining stuff is unless they truly love the exploration aspect, but in most cases it's things they've missed in places they've been. This game isn't Environmental Station Alpha with absolutely amazing secret exploration after the final boss If it was that would be so fucking kino so what's the harm? Also grinding Rosaries just isn't very engaging or challenging, it's tedium at that point and the extra tools aren't going to assist you.

>>720174138
>He posted it again
Here's your (You)

>>720150660 (OP)
>halve all act 1 bench/fast travel rosary costs
Wait, people have issue with unlocking bench?
So far, I have unlock the bench immediately when I came across one.

>>720174164
The issue is it coming from the dev. I understand what you're saying in spirit, I think it would resonate with Team Cherry on a personal level too, I just think they are also in some ways too intelligent and justifiably reflective off their mass influence to allow it to be a hole in their armour. They ghosted the industry for 7 years and just got the a history first on multiple fronts. 100/100, crashing storefronts.

I would recommend you try and figure out the non-achievement breaking version of using mods for this. Max your rosaries, save and quit and turn them off etc.

>>720174296
V is terrible at games.
More at 6.

>>720173125
>We
You dont speak for anyone but yourself nigger

I would give the game an entire extra point if they deleted all the shitty time wasting side quests. Going back to an area I've already been to just to collect random spines or bug meat reeks of obvious padding in a game that does not fucking need it by any stretch of the imagination. Bloodstained had hunting and gathering quests but they were pretty much always doled out to you right before you hit the area the targets would appear in, same with Portrait of Ruin and the ghost guy

I don't even care if I didn't beat the game for summoning, fuck this guy

>>720174313
Oh, I'm not going to go for the 100%, I adored everything that lead me into the path of the true ending, but to go out of my way to do a 100% that won't provide me further challenges or secrets isn't engaging. I did all the wishes and found all the areas without help and that was awesome enough. It's just that I think that using mods defeats the point. Also, I'll just add another extra point is that they should give you unlimited shellshards too. You know, in the dream bosses they restock your tools everytime you enter the boss fights, but the kicker is that they remove your ability to use your shellshards with the architect crest. Basically, shellshards are completely redundant in those fights and if there's an eventual godhome equivalent I expect things to be the same. So what's the fucking point?

when the fuck can I upgrade my weapons

>>720173760
>can't defend his shit game
>goes into ebonics and Redditspacing
Typical TCocksucker.

>>720174719
after Widow

Input buffer for dashing only

>>720174964
I just defeated my third boss at the deep docks

>>720175551
You're close enough. You'll know you're close to it when you get to bell town

Silksong more like Shitsuck LOL

>>720175594
I think I took a shortcut or something and I'm at the pilgrim whatever.
I don't remember HK feeling this big

is it me or normal enemies have way too much health?

>>720176175
They have too much and weapon upgrades are retardedly doled out and don't really do much given the mob powercreep

>>720153912
>The side quests are just gay busywork
I see you are an act 2 shitter

>>720176708
>farming mobs for useless drops so you can get a string of 30 beads adds SOOOO MUCH to the gameplay, bro
If you got struck and killed by a car tomorrow the world would be better off for it

>entire button dedicated to strumming your needle which is only used to open doors or listen to lore(?)
>It also uses silk
WHY
>Find a badge that lets me run a lil bit faster
Cool gotta go fast...
>It uses silk
FUCK OFF
>finally get my hookshot ability
>It uses silk
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
it's not even about challenge anymore, it's just obnoxious gameplay design

I'm 3 hours in, how much of a contrariam am I if I think the game is worse than HK?

>>720177029
You're someone who isn't retarded

>>720177029
I somewhat agree.

>>720177029
I'm 6 hours in, it doesn't get better.

>>720173467
yes i know. but sometimes I accidently sprint into it lol. theres just no reason for there to be walls on it

>>720177029
dramatically retarded but it's still only like an 8/10 or so

>>720151850
The moorwing fight has a bench two screens of flat ground away you fucking idiot

>>720176885
At this point I'm surprised the charge attack or double jump doesn't use silk

>>720152924
I've not encountered a place where there is significant danger after a crest change
You're being gay

>>720154053
Get out of the way nigga

>>720177382
If the talentless clown ass devs are going to make it so you can't change crests unless you sit down at a bench then a new crest shouldn't fucking auto equip unless there's a bench literally in the same room. Get Team Tranny's dick out of your ass.

>>720177491
I'm superior to you.

>>720173539
>someone tried to fix what wasn't broken
>people who used to like the thing as it was complain
i expected a new move set and charm system but they literally flipped the magic system on it's head for no good reason

Anyway to switch controller/keybinds for skill and your tool?

>>720177567
Clearly not if youre taking contact damage from downed bosses and crying about it

>>720178585
The fact that stunned bosses do contact damage is factually bad design and the fact that you don't agree signals your low intelligence and inferiority to me. Don't post again.

The friction and retro inspired game design choices of Silksong make it a better game. it's not for everyone, especially if you are impatient and dopamine addicted who gripes about "not being able to buy everything easily".
Is it a difficult game? Yes, but not overbearingly so. It is intently challenging and frustrating and if you instead ask for a patch instead of getting good I don't think the game is for you.

I'm loving the game so far, and I really like how combat oriented it is. It is difficult enough that it forces you to think about your tool and crest setup (even for the platforming sections) without the additional power/tweak feeling like cheese. I've played dozens of arpgs where the only way forward is bashing your head against a wall until you get good vs the boss, or grinding until you are overleveled. Silksong allows neither, but it gives you the tools to advance vs the wall (boss or platforming or gauntlet) with a little bit of contemplation. It's a better souls game than Dark Souls, unironically

>>720178646
Have you tried not standing right under them like a dumbass

>>720178678
God you're embarrassing. How much did Team Tranny pay you to make this Reddit-tier post

>>720178646
Why is it bad design?
They do contact damage when they're not stunned, what has changed about their body that would justify them not doing damage when being stunned, other than not moving physically? I could understand if it was a spiked enemy or something, and being stunned removes the spikes temporarily, but what you are asking for is for there to be no contact damage at all. Which means you're bad at the game
You are quite stupid and now have egg on your face

>>720178646
that is arguable, how is it bad design? I can see someone not liking it but I don't think it's some objective bad design principle.
it's not that much of a problem aside from one case I saw where the hitbox changed during the stun and damaged the player. nta

>>720178740
>0 refutation
thank you for your service

>>720150660 (OP)
>Dying to a boss respawns you at the beginning of the scene
The only thing

I thought the Mist was just an empty maze area where you have to follow the fireflies to escape? What's that I hear about a boss

>>720178723
>boss is stunned
>attack boss because it's stunned
>the tip of Hornet's mask touches one pixel of the stunned boss
>two masks of damage
Have you tried not gargling TC's dick and balls?
>>720178757
>>720178782
Because they are fucking STUNNED. What the fuck world are you living in where it makes sense to get damaged by touching a fucking stunned, helpless boss? If it's a boss that's constantly on fire or covered in spikes or some shit, fine, at least that makes sense, but just fucking touching a stunned giant fly boss and taking damage for it is asinine.

>>720178834
they are allowed to aura farm on you for a bit after you got that on

>>720178802
There's nothing to refute. You literally just deepthroated Team Tranny's cock, you didn't actually say anything.

I don't understand the savage beast fly at all.

>>720150660 (OP)
>boss rematch facility
>harder version bosses like the dream fights in HK
>either reduce cost of shop items or make getting rosaries less of a meaningless grind
>an actual climatic finale. Act 3 was clearly rushed together last minute.
>more means of getting around the map faster, something like the dream needle teleport spawn thing
Thats all I can really think of and im 95% sure TC will pump out free dlc patches soon

>Hopes
Enemies have their attacks increased to deal 4+ points of HP
Player Movement/Attack speed is reduced
Buff the attack speed of enemies

>>720178919
I'm team good games and give credit where it's due :)

>>720178964
>an actual climatic finale. Act 3 was clearly rushed together last minute
kek there's a marketer in the comfy thread screaming that the poop particles and aids enemy buffs are ludokino or whatever

>>720178919
the anon said many things, brownoid
>the retro design is good for the game
>it's not for everyone
>It's difficult, but not impossible
>if you can't beat the game, it's not for you.

>He loves the game, it's combat oriented.
>It forces you to think and use your tools, etc.
>Silksong is not a head-bashing experience, as it gives you the tools you need to advance with a bit of thinking.
>It's better than DS.

>>720152436
No?
Not unless you like running into a boss arena unprepared
But then you will likely die, get sent back to the bench, then swap anyway.

>>720179045
That's cool and all, but Silksong isn't a very good game. I can also give credit where it's due, there have been some fun bosses, the new movement abilities feel good to use, and the trap system is a cool idea at least on paper, even though the triple split currency is horrendous. Those positives don't make it a good game.
>>720179104
The cocksucker gave his paid opinion, yes.

I would:
>have less benches
>up enemy bead drops by 1.25x
>increase act 1 boss damage by 1 for certain attacks
>nerf spike trap, lowering damage by half, they're busted
>add more traps in hunter's march
>make certain attacks more complicated, like moorfly's saws splitting or something
not even remotely joking
i'm in bilewater right now and it might be my favorite area. things need to get bleaker

>>720178678
>It's a better souls game than Dark Souls
You had me with this bait until that last line. Good job, solid attempt. 4/10.

>>720171413
The only time I died and lost my cash was at last judge and that was when I was already dirt poor after the bench, fast travel, and map taxes. I was dirt poor the whole game.

>>720156141
While I enjoy the game it's insane how hard people defend its flaws. Example as you said being everything related to the map.
Like why the fuck am I buying map tokens if I can't even label them? You're given 9 of each color but there's way more NPCs to keep track of so the color coding is fucking useless.

>>720178919
another one filtered by the beastfly

>>720178953
It's tracking your height at all times. Jump before it starts charging so that it passes over you.

>>720178836
You play music for the fireflies, they move to the exit, rinse and repeat until you find yourself in a new zone. Phantom is the zone boss and one of the best bosses in the game.

>>720179258
I killed the beastfly last night. It's not a fun fight. It is badly designed. If that upsets you, I don't give a fuck.

>>720156141
>>No map progress to check previously obtained fleas
>>Buyable map icons are useless, might as well use paper and pencil at this point, at least in that you can actually write what the mark means.

use your head, zoom zoom. what the game has now is perfect for immersion.

>>720178953
He has 2 attacks
Move to the side and hit him on the ground pound
Either jump over him and pogo or try to upslash him if he charges over
Keep in mind that he can read your position and alter his charge if you jump too early, essentially catching you by being in this middlestate
The real problem begins when he spawns his buttbuddies to help
Your only options are to take them out as early as possible, or bait him into groundpounding them, which is usually the better option
You can also farm them for silk, which you should do as long as it doesn't put you in danger
By far the biggest threat is the razorfags. Personally I take them out with the trapspring tool or with the silkskill. They're too dangerous to farm for silk or to risk keeping them alive until the big faggot does his slam attack
After fighting him, I didn't think he was THAT bad
But after the rematch in the lava pit where fifth chorus was, I've changed my mind. He is the nigger of hollow knight bosses

>>720179339
>le IMMERSION
Absolute non-argument. You might as well have just said "Fart" or something.

>>720178873
What does that even mean

If you stun an animal and then you touch it, would it damage you? No. therefore, damage taken when stunned doesn't make sense

>>720179318
I think the biggest problem are the white fly niggers that spew fireballs. I get having the boss deal two bars of health, but why the tiny hitbox adds?

>>720179318
>If that upsets you, I don't give a fuck.
not really. it's like saying 1+1 = 0. it's just wrong.
don't reply by the way. i'm off to play silksong

>>720179395
You just shit yourself
You're an embarrassment

>>720179418
>i-it's w-w-wrong!
Without the adspam, he would be an extremely boring, simplistic boss with 2 attacks. Fucking 2. That is the epitome of bad, lazy design. I'm sorry you're too fucking stupid to understand that, now run back to your slop.

>>720179395
yeah you don't get game design and that's fine.
>argument
i graced you with a post. i'm not having a back and forth with someone beneath me. neeeext.

>>720179481
>without half of his mechanics, he would be a bad fight!
Damn you're stupid

>>720179473
>no argument again
Imagine my shock.
>>720179484
The game design is shit. The level design is shit. The boss design is shit. The game is 4/10 at best.
>WAHHHHHHH
Cry to someone who cares.

>>720151850
>- Greymoor now has a bench before the Moorwing fight
o ho but it does if you did the chapel of the reaper. incredibly simple corpse run and jolly cooperation

>>720179539
>this fucking retard thinks ad summoning is a replacement for an actual well-designed boss with an engaging moveset
Jesus Christ the people defending this game are midwits.

Runbacks should be longer. They should be torturous. That's the point.

>>720179382
Yeah I figured that all out, but I don't really see how it's not just pure luck even with all that. I can dodge him consistently and understand his tracking and tricks. He dropped 3 guys on me all at once with one roar and they just have generic wandering patterns, I don't really see what the thought process was. There really is not a consistent pattern. Sometimes you just got put against a wall and hit. That doesn't really jive with me.

>>720179632
>the point of the game is to be tedious and time-wasting

>>720178953
when he summons focus on dodging. most of the time he will kill his adds. that's not a hard and fast rule though and sometimes it's better if you kill them yourself esp if it's the low HP ones and it's alone.

Also use your tools and find the crest that you prefer.
Use your silk attacks, don't save it solely for the heal, sometimes using it for damage will save you more HP.

>>720179652
you're the reason why video games will never be art
baby must be having fun at all times gooo gooo gaaa gaaa

>>720179684
>NO YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE FUN WHILE PLAYING GAMES
I unironically hope you die soon.

>>720179607
It is literally his mechanics and it IS engaging you dumbass
Just because you're bad at managing them, moving between them, and baiting him into attacking them, doesn't mean it's badly designed. It is literally designed so you have to do all of that you fucking moron
You're arguing for removing half of his mechanics because you're bad

>>720150660 (OP)
Moorwing cheese?

>>720179726
waaaaaaah gimmie back my candy die die die die!!!

>>720179607
If it's not engaging then you beat it on the first try with no issues right

>>720179729
No the fuck it isn't. The boss himself is boring as shit because he has two attacks and neither of them are interesting at all. His gimmick is that he spawns shit that you've already fucking fought 1000 times. If that's engaging to you then you are fucking braindead and you should be shot in the fucking face.

>>720179607
Yes, I do think beat em ups are well designed.

>>720179317
Oh that's what they call mist boss? nvm then already beat him

I would unironically use Savage Beastfly as a tech interview filter. If you hate it or struggled immensely with it, you're not passing, and you'd probably be the type to dislike Leetcode, anyway.

>>720179651
None of them have random patterns
I don't believe he can spawn 3 at a time. He can spawn 2. Perhaps 1 was still alive from before (your fault, you should have killed him) there is an element of randomness to it, but it's not pure luck. It takes skill to deal with that randomness

>>720179762
Are you retarded? A boss taking multiple tries to beat doesn't mean it's engaging.
Actual fucking midwits, holy shit

>>720179632
They shouldn't be longer, they should just be actually difficult. Make it a real gauntlet where you could be close to death by the time you reach the boss.

>>720179849
>I would unironically use Savage Beastfly as a tech interview filter
what the fuck are you even talking about you mongoloid

Act 2 just seems higher quality to me so far. Better bosses, less annoying enemies.

>>720179936
Too busy sucking TC's cock to post coherently I guess

>>720179807
The boss himself IS THE ADS SPAWNING you fucking retarded idiot
You are separating half of the fight away and saying "yeah it's bad he only has two moves"
The boss has 6 moves you fucking retard
>charge
>slam
>spawn ad
>walking spike trap
>minime charging
>razorblade faggot
You are so stupid it's unbelievable
Next you're going to say that the rematch fight where he breaks the lava platforms and forces you to have to manage your environment is also "bad design" because he still only has 2 moves in that fight
Dipshit

>>720150660 (OP)
Cloak-less nude mod

>>720180034
>The boss himself is dull and not engaging
Yeah, that's what I said. You didn't have to repeat it.
>he counts the fucking ads as boss attacks
Actual. Fucking. Midwit.

Turns out of the greatest games of all time is poorly designed. Who knew?

>>720180071
You are braindead
Actually stupid
Unfortunately you will never realize this and you will keep malding over video games your whole life
It is your destiny

>>720180071
>Actual. Fucking. Midwit.
Literally. No. Argument.

>>720180173
>nothing else to say so he just starts sperging out
I accept your concession.

>>720180174
>>720180173
Lol. Samefag midwit losing it.

>Got abducted by a random NPC that suddenly showed up in Greymoor
>sent me to prison and took all my clothes
>have to get it all back with no clothes, weapons, or equipment
They definitely raped Hornet btw

>>720180174
Your "argument" is
>THE BOSS ACTUALLY HAS MORE THAN 2 ATTACKS BECAUSE IT SPAWNS THINGS YOU'VE ALREADY FOUGHT
You are fucking stupid. You should honestly be killed. It should be a legal requirement to murder you.

>>720180228
>he's gone delusional

>>720180228
>3 seconds apart
>samefag
Are you dumb or just fucking stupid?

>>720180307
Shut up samefag sperg. Keep crying waah waah

>>720180253
There are more than 2 attacks you have to deal with in that fight. Also spawning a cage to hit you is an attack.

>>720180357
>he dashes across the room
>he does the downward slam
That's it. Those are his attacks. Summoning mobs you have already fought is not a boss attack, nor does it make the boss fight fun or engaging. It's simply lazy design. Either give the boss an actual moveset or don't include it.

>>720177296
where? if it's the village bench, then who gives a fuck? it needs a bench before the fight, not after it.

Soo... a character just sent me on a quest to farm materials for an upgrade and...
Do I really need to fucking farm 25 RNG items to finish a quest to progress the game? or is this shit optional?

>>720180778
Yes enjoy the revolutionary Team Cherry design, rote mmo tasks from 20+ years ago

>>720180778
If it's the one I'm thinking of, nope, not skippable. This game is genuinely trash.

>>720178723
>>720178757
>>720178782
it's not an argument. that is factually and objectively retarded.
Stunned enemy = state of safety for the player in ALL FUCKING GAMES. Even fucking Mario Bros on NES removes contact damage on stunned Koopas.
But not in this piece of shit, no no.
Like the anon said, if it's a poison skin/spiked/fire boss be my guest and keep the contact damage.
But a regular bozo shouldnt be able to damage you when it's fucking STUNNED.

>>720150660 (OP)
I kinda wanna check this game out but every single facet of this game just screams in my face "this game was made for transgenders"
>Title is composed of hyperfeminine words "hollow" "silk" and "song" alongside "knights". As if it’s trying to feminize the concept of a usually traditionally masculine role.
>Protagonist character design is the Undertale marketability formula: corporate minimalism with no discernable sexual characteristics. Optimized for widespread appeal and easy plushies.
>Platformer with airdash. An incredibly pansy ass movement option that Celestetrannies have let ruin the genre.
>Everyone praising it for it’s music. As if it’s a game driven by emotion rather than unique or clever gameplay mechanics.
>Muh deep lore
>Muh "indie"
Hard pass.

>>720180959
OBTAIN SKILL xD *deepthroats Team Cherry's dick*

>>720179954
Act 2 is the main game desu, Act 3 is more of an epilogue than anything

>>720178964
>Act 3 was clearly rushed together last minute
Seven fucking years of dev, everyone! holy fucking kek

>>720181021
theres a few trannes in my xiv discord and they were raving on this. definitely a tranny-coded game

>>720181021
Holy shit I hate this fucking game but you are an embarrassment and you need to kill yourself. You are literally a closet tranny

>>720179684
reddit-tier response. Team Cherry isnt sending their best shills...

>>720179849
are you having a stroke nigger? is it what smelling your own farts too much does to the brain? are you Team Cherry?

Does seeing yourself on the map really takes one tool space?

>>720181565
Yes. It was like that in the first game too. It has always been gay.

>>720181565
Indeed, it does YET AGAIN.
Honestly I cant fathom a stupider conscious gameplay design choice ever than not seeing your own ass on a minimap without a penalty...
Even Kojima who wanted to make Metal Gear game disks self-destruct if you died seems more grounded than this shit. It's peak farts sniffing.

>>720181565
Yes, your second exploration slot is pretty much locked to the bead magnet unless you want loss 80% of the money that pops out of enemies and rocks.

>>720181802
oh yeah forgot about that! they actually doubled down on the retardation kek
BONUS: the magnet is so shit it doesnt even save beads that fall directly into traps.

>>720181884
>do a dumb parkour section where your only reward are beads/shards
>they immediately bounce straight into the line of spikes you just jumped over
how is this shit even legal kek

>reach the Blasted Lands
>run to the far left because I haven't explored that way yet
>suddenly Hornet stops
>babbles about being "hunted" and refuses to keep going
Ah yes. The hallmark of any good Metroidvania: railroading fucking exploration.

This honestly might be one of the worst platformers ever made.

I think the worst thing that can be said about a sequel is if it makes you both miss and wish you were playing the previous game, and that it also reinforces that sense of how good it was by comparison.