Thread 720151723

Why did PC gamers allow it to happen? No resale value, no lending, no soul.

>>720151723 (OP)
>Why did PC gamers allow it to happen?
DRM was pretty shit in 2000s, some games became literally unplayable after time because of DRM
>No resale value
Why would I resell games that i like?
>no soul
"Soul" is a meme (just like OP's life)

>>720152032
>DRM was pretty shit in 2000s
it was just disc check which every console to this day relies on

>>720151723 (OP)
Because digital is good on PC. More sales and deep discounts. Also it's an open platform and not locked down hardware.

>>720151723 (OP)
Burn your GOG games to DVD.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/unofficial_dvd_covers_for_gog_com_games

>>720152592
Sorry, https://www.gog.com/forum/general/unofficial_dvd_covers_for_gog_com_games/post953

I can lend gog games though

>lending
Piracy is a thing on PC, you don't have to lend games.

>>720152680
The linked posts' links are 404'd.

>>720152129
>it was just disc check
It's not. There are different DRMs, and shit like Starforce will just not work on modern windows, and may even crash your computer
Try playing Trackmania Original disc on Windows 10

>>720151723 (OP)
Yo ho ho it's pirate time! 99% of these games can be obtained completely free of cost thanks to the amazing technology and magic of piracy.

>>720151723 (OP)
Because it's superior. The last physical game I bought was Witcher 2, and only because it came with cool shit.

>>720152804
Just fuck my shit up. Well, I tried.

>>720151723 (OP)
>no lending
That's only if you buy games with DRM. GOG doesn't have this issue and for the most part itch.io also doesn't have it. It's just Steam and Epic that are dogshit.
Not to mention, there's still plenty of PC games which are delivered on DVDs.

>>720151723 (OP)
>have become
have been for the last 15 years, slowpokebro

>>720151723 (OP)
we have piracy

>>720152804
https://gog-games.to/
Download gamez. Burn all files from zip to disc and make autostart the install EXE file!
Profit!

>>720151723 (OP)
Because Digital only is better. You get to own your games, unlike physical.

PCs haven't had physical disc drives for over 15 years now. This is also a thing PC gamers just "accepted".

>>720153004
? You are aware he was trying to link DVD covers right?

Reselling games is third worlder shit. We "let it happen" because we are in our 40s and video games are a tiny part of my life now, the way things are now is more convenient. I haven't lent a video game to anyone, or had anyone to lend a video game to, in 25 years

Video games are not what life is about and caring about having things rather than having experiences means you dont get it

>>720153093
I'm >>720153129
My PC has always had a physical drive and I am upgrading to an expensive one to write on stone archival media (look it up)

>>720153129
hmmm your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

Why are bluray drives so expensive?

>>720151723 (OP)
Gayben gambled and won. Simple as. Steam could easily have failed, but it didn't.

>>720153117
to be fair optical disks are just an inferior storage form compared to hard disk storage.

>>720151723 (OP)
If Steam fucked up somehow, I'd pirate every game.

>>720153117
Just download the games cover art and then make it a round shape with a transparent round shape inside it in Paint.

>>720152958
Steam and Epic are basically the modern console experience on PC. GOG is PC gaming.

>>720153239
Low sales

>>720153129
>Video games are not what life is about
yes it is.

>>720153332
meant for >>720153093

>>720153219
All PCs have physical drives. That's not what he was talking about.

He's still wrong, mind you.

>>720153129
>just give up, bro

>>720151723 (OP)
Because publishers and storefronts focused almost entirely on console games during the 00s and steam was the only one actually trying to sell PC games

>>720153093
Laziness is a sin, after all.

If I were extra autistic I'd burn pirated game installers to a bunch of cds but I'm just a regular autist and have a 4tb drive.

PC literally was a dying market until steam came out

>>720152958
>can share my Steam games legally with my brother
>can't do that legally with Got 0 Games

>>720153528
You know what was meant, fuck off. You aren't about to spend a bunch of money to write to a brand new disc standard so don't dare try to be pedantic to me, you are my fucking peon in this realm

>>720153530
Give up what? I have never lost any part of my experience and I have enjoyed games richly for 35 years.

Physical is meaningless. Video games are the experience of playing

>>720153630
I mean PC exclusives and ports before steam were kinda jank on a technical level compared to single architecture for consoles.

What do you guys think about this Deck case?

>>720151723 (OP)
>Why did PC gamers allow it to happen? No resale value, no lending, no soul.
It's not like we had a choice, either buy games on Steam, or buy a physical game with a one time use Steam code. Those who REALLY didn't want to install Steam just pirated these games.

>>720152129
cracks were ubiquitous
you're a valve cuck

>>720153726
How... how old are you?

>>720153686
>can't do that legally with Got 0 Games
literally nobody cares if you do it """illegaly""", not even gog

>>720151723 (OP)
it's really a function of the lack of innovation in physical media formats. game file sizes have become so huge that installing from a dvd/bluray is about as time consuming as downloading via fast internet, and more of a hassle.
there'd be a small market for some kind of high capacity, plug and play solid state storage media--essentially a glorified SSD that connects via USB-C, maybe custom molded to appeal to collectors. a SSDs come down in price this is becoming pretty feasible

>>720153846
This many.
>>720153927
If you're going to steal, why pay for it?

>>720152592
>>720152680
What about games larger than 8.5 GB?

>>720154010
>If you're going to steal, why pay for it?
copying is not stealing anon, and I do pay for games I end up liking

>>720153846
Can you name high profile pc exclusive before steam that'll work nowadays out of the box/no pcgamingwiki article?

>>720154098
G-goyslop!

>buy on gog
>copy the game to pen drive
wow physical gaming!

>>720154148
Load "*",8,1

>>720151723 (OP)
when was the last time pc games had resale value or the ability to be lent out? cd keys were around for ages

>>720154116
Using software in ways contrary to the license agreement is stealing. For all your argument about how superior GOG is, you violate their terms as well as those set by the publisher. I can legally share my games on a superior platform. That sounds more like ownership.

>>720151723 (OP)
>no lending
Yeah, let me lend out my favorite game just to get it back scratched. Fuck you.

>>720152201
/thread

>>720154332
>That sounds more like ownership.
Can you sell a game? No, you can't. You own nothing and you're just wasting money on a DRM platform.

>>720151723 (OP)
I like to play videogames, not collect and show them off

>>720154514
You can't sell them on GOG. But you also can't LEND them on GOG, which I can on Steam. Hell, even Borderlands 4 can be shared.

The benefits of physical media are largely marginal or theoretical while the benefits of digital distribution are pretty much universally applicable.

>>720154148
Starcraft worked out of box from its CD using at the time hardware without any issues. I do not know about now and do not care to research it as it literally doesn't matter: There was no problem with installing games "way back when" "back in my day" whatever excuse you want to use.

>>720154332
>Using software in ways contrary to the license agreement is stealing
imagine being this retarded

>>720154272
there are still some games which are sold on physical media, but most people buy games on digital platforms which completely disallow re-selling

>>720154602
>you also can't LEND them on GOG
why wouldn't you be able to?

>>720154602
>But you also can't LEND them on GOG
I can, I just copy the installer to my pendrive and then install it on my pal's PC.

>>720153553
says the lazy pedophile jew rapist

>>720154602
>You can't sell them on GOG
Yes, but the games are DRM-free. You can own them forever and you can transfer your ownership to other people, legally. Just because it's not a feature supported by the platform, doesn't mean that their "non-transferable ownership" EULA applies. If you test it in court against GOG, you'd win.

>>720151723 (OP)
pc gaming has been like this since 2009 lmao they need to steam to work to game at all

>>720154730
>why wouldn't you be able to?
You're a thief. If you want to steal, why compare game stores? Just get everything from FitGirl or gog-games.
Imagine paying to shoplift.

>>720152201
this. physical kiddies would rather pay more for a shelf decoration and a subpar experience topkek

>>720151723 (OP)
I always hated having to keep a bunch of CDs to play games.
>>720153093
They were only useful for burning pirated games to your PS2 and shit.

>>720153630
Pc in the olden days literally had no games. I honestly don’t know how old school pcfags that ONLY played games on pc could bare it. They missed out on the vast majority of major, iconic Japanese series that released on consoles. 99% of pc games could be placed in a couple categories like “generic shooter”, “generic RTS”, and admittedly a couple neat WRPGs while consoles had so many more games and unique genres and art styles. The weirdest fucking thing is how pcfags act high and mighty when I genuinely feel bad for the grey boring slop they were forced to play

>>720151723 (OP)
Every industry that has an axiom of leisure has a vector that-can veer into convenience.
Convenience is how you lose ownership.

>>720151723 (OP)
>implying any modern games are worth preserving

>>720154759
>pendrive
Is this 2005?
>>720154875
Buenos dias, señor.

>>720154876
Cry more, retarded steamcuck.

>>720153630
>timmy shilling ps5
>timmy owns ue5
>ue5 games run worse on pc than ps5
Oh I see Tim. I see.

>>720155180
Imagine being so mad that you can't play CS2 that you've been trying to get people to stop using Steam for 2 years. September 2023 was the start of this campaign.
If anyone got cucked by Steam, it's you. I can play my games. Your Pentium 4 running Windows 2000 can't.

>>720152812
I never had any trouble, most of my games were sourced from twilight cds

>>720151723 (OP)
Why would I need to resell a game? It's free.

>>720155334
meds, take them

>>720155463
Outed. Remember the casinos for children. You like children, being a tendie and all. Inappropriately.

>>720154994
>Pc in the olden days literally had no games.
You serious right now? that's the dumbest shit I've read in a long time.

>>720155547
see >>720155463

>>720154098
The installer .bin files should come in 4.7 GB chunks I believe

>>720156548
>want to install 100 GB game
>"Insert disc 11."
Why not just download it on demand in 10 minutes when I want to play it?

>>720154098
For instance, Dead Space has four parts for the installer: two 4 GB files, a 300 MB file, and a 28MB file.

>>720156548
they're 4GB files because GOG still wants to support FAT32, which has a 4GB file size limit

>>720156804
>"Insert disc 11."
You don't have to do shit. They ship single .exe installers and you press "install" only once. The .bin files are parsed sequentially, automatically.

>>720154994
>Pc in the olden days literally had no games.
The first video game to ever appear on The Simpsons was MYST, a PC game.
Everyone played Wolfenstein, a PC game.
Everyone played DOOM, a PC game.
Everyone who wasn't a child played Quake, which was a PC game series.

The vast majority of adult or college aged men in America had a PC of some kind and all they really needed to buy was a sound blaster to get most games going "optimally" (could be in shit resolution and slow as hell, but people were playing on shitbox monitors so it didn't matter).
The games that didn't sell on PC were console ports, because they were phoned in, but entire franchises existed basically only on PC. Monkey Island, Maniac Mansion, Space/Police/King's Quest, Fallout, Warcraft, all that shit was PC territory.

>>720156907
Oh okay.

>>720151723 (OP)
Cuckiest demographic

>>720154098
>>720156548
>>720156804
This is the major problem of CDs and the reason they were discontinued in the first place.
Just slap the installer files on some old hard drive.
Then, you have something very close to a "physical copy", having the only files required to fully play the game engraved on a physical hard drive and if you want to share them with others, you can copy paste tehm on an USB drive.
Or burnb 10 CDs to instlall the game if you are an ascended giga autistlord.

>>720151723 (OP)
>Uh... why would PC users who can freely replicate data via a cable not want the data to be sent by them in a more inefficient manner on pieces of plastic? Don't they know they can sell these pieces of plastic for $15 after 2 years?

Try to guess why, you retard. The only thing that matters on a PC is replicating bits on your hard drive. How you replicate them is irrelevant.
If there is a truly relevant issue, it is the issue of licenses being revoked by corporations. That's what should be fought, not the way data is delivered to consumers.
And guess what, corporations say they can revoke your physical game licenses too. Nintendo has done this and is bricking Switches that dare to try to run physical games whose license has been revoked.
People who become attached to inanimate objects should not be part of the discussion. The issue should be addressed by those who are aware of the real problem, which is corporations revoking licenses that no longer belong to them.

>>720156907
But you still have to copy over 11 discs worth of files, when you could download it from Steam faster than the copy and the subsequent install (or even installing straight off disc if it allows stopping to swap after it gets to the last file on a disc).

What I have come to understand from faggots going on about "muh physical disc" in regards to PC were never actually around for when PC games were physical and the borderline malware DRM they had.

>>720151723 (OP)
sadly they're dismissing optical media and resale value for a game that doiesn't even run on modern systems is low

>>720157083
>But you still have to copy over 11 discs worth of files
Sure? But it's literally the whole point of offline installers. That's how offline files work.
It's an option for people who don't want to use game launchers or those who are setting up systems without an internet connection.
>when you could download it from Steam faster than the copy and the subsequent install
GOG has a client too, you know.

>muh resale
what resale? Bro nobody fucking resells games unless its some ancient game with collector value. Beyond that everyone just traded their games into gamestop for pennies.

>>720157286
GOG's client makes me click through web pages to browse games in my own library.

>>720152592
>Burn your GOG games to DVD
What year is it? Kek
You can literally get an external 1TB SSD that is as big as a credit card and it only costs like $90.

>>720157312
nobody buys games which can be resold, people just pirate them. I don't own a switch nor have I paid for a single switch game, yet there's 50 switch games in my yuzu library.

>>720151723 (OP)
PC publishers went full Jew back in the early 2000s to the point physical PC games turned into putrid shit. Steam thus filled the void and saved PC gaming alongside League of Legends.

People expose themselves as newfags with this shit.
Gaming on PC was cumbersome as all hell with physical games.
90% of the time, those games would just be copied to your PC anyways, so the disc is functionally worthless unless the game required it to launch the game (sort of like consoles now), and if you copied anything less than the ENTIRE game, then I hope you enjoy hearing the most obnoxious sounds possible coming from your disc tray as the game loads shit in, as unlike with a console, that's likely right next to you.
Beyond that is PC games having absurd numbers of discs, and that would've never changed because BD players were never going to be made standard on PC, and if they were that'd be fucking worse than the current market objectively, as that's an additional $250 drive you NEED to have for games.
OP talks about lending- good fucking luck with some games. Single use license, how's that for a kick in the ass, and DRM was standard by the time of steam anyways. I'd say you owned less with a lot of physical games from 1995 on with PC than you do on Steam.

And the big issue is just convenience. Owning a bunch of plastic is not convenient and nobody likes it aside from retards who enjoy taking pictures of the plastic in question. If you have multiple PCs (which, you will), you'll want to not have to go through the hassle of installing a lot of games again. Steam is a one click process, I can have Riven on my main PC, my TV one, and my laptop at not real hassle to myself.
Back in the day though? Better install it using all FIVE discs on all of those.

Digital is objectively more convenient.

>>720157451
I wouldn't know, I never used it. But Steam is also just a re-packaged ancient version of the Chrome browser. You're also just browsing a web page there, it's just styled in a way to make it seem less like a website and more like a native app of some sort.

>>720153093
Netflix killed DVDs.

>>720157617
No, the web browser part is encapsulated in a native Windows application. You can do the bulk of your game mangling without using the web browser.

>>720157473
This thread is about physical media so I was mentioning an option.

>>720157539
I legitimately and in all honesty dont understand /v/'s recent obsession with physical.

>>720157617
Steam has never crashed on me.

>>720151723 (OP)
>Why did PC gamers allow it to happen?
discs are too slow, we've had thumb drives and portable hdds for eons
>No resale value, no lending, no soul.
resale value is meaningless when games are so cheap and everyone in the world has access to the same deals. i could try to sell a game for 30 dollars and all anyone else is going to do is use the myriad of sale trackers and just get the game for the same price or even cheaper.

>>720157507
>The jokes is the dogs having sex.

>>720157764
Wait, are you saying the GOG client opens up your actual web browser when buying/installing games? The fuck are they doing?
>the web browser part is encapsulated in a native Windows application
I wouldn't call it "native", it's still a web browser displaying web content. The only native part is the webkit/blink web engine rendering your Steam library and the store.

>>720151723 (OP)
Needing a disc just to play the game that's installed on your hard drive is gay.
Most publishers would rather kill puppies than sell DRM free games. Digital (Steam) was unfortunately the best option.

Afaik consoles don't even run games off of discs anymore, so they're finally reaching this point PCs were at in the 2000s.

>>720153093
yes because optical discs are slow as shit. even when you had physical games the first thing you did was rip the disc to iso, save it on a hdd, get a cd crack, and throw the disc away.

Is it possible to put games onto discs and then play them with a disc drive if ever you need or want to? I don't know if that's a dumb question, I know it would have to be indirect, but I feel like that must be possible if you have the knowledge.

>>720157810
It's just kids baiting I imagine.
Physical media is not convenient.
It is theoretically worthwhile if you have everything physically in addition to keeping backups of all of your electronics alongside a generator and spare long lasting parts for all of them inside some kind of gigantic shed sized faraday cage, in the event of a real solar flare that wipes out most technology.

If you aren't doing that, you're just being a sperg. Physical has no real benefits.
>It can't be stolen from you
Yeah it can. All game media made and released in this day and age could be broken remotely by the companies in question. All of them. This is not limited to steam, and steam doesn't tend to actually remove games or anything- even delisted games, games that were only up for a limited time and got taken down, if you paid for them, they're your games. You'd probably need to dump a ton of illegal shit to get your account fully removed.
>No DRM
Again, most consoles require downloads for the games to even function. Modern games need online in general, so physical games wouldn't do shit.
>Plug and play
Does not exist anymore. Even Nintendo does what I just mentioned.

Steam is ultimately, a necessary evil. Nobody else would've done it as well as Valve has, where you see basically no real interference from them.

>>720157617
>But Steam is also just a re-packaged ancient version of the Chrome browser.
every website in a box client is chromeshit. steam, gog, epic, rockstar, prime video, netflix, etc. etc. all of them.

>>720152032
>"Soul" is a meme (just like OP's life)
haha so clever I'm slapping me knee bursting with laughter haha

>>720157810
Boomer collectors have to justify their plastic while some zoomers fetishize something they never experienced.

>>720158306
Really, pirated games are the safest media.
Your physical copy got stolen or lost? Just get one of your backups.
Don't have any backups or lost them all? Go back to gog-games.to or cs.rin.ru and get back the game for free again.

>>720158035
The joke is that they mirror their masters, stop thinking about dog penis.

>>720158075
There are literally native controls in the Steam client. The web browser is only inside the web browser frames. GOG has no such thing. You're paging through hypertext no matter what.

>>720158235
no disc drives are too slow to read from which is why even consoles are just buy a disc and install the files to the internal drive.
if you mean can you back up a game to a disc to reinstall it again then yes. gog offers games in chunks and steam's backup functionality will do it as well (obviously you'll still need the client to play again if its not gog)

>>720158235
That's how old consoles worked.

>>720158306
>>720158428
>its just kids hopping on a bandwagon
I got the same vibe as well.

>>720157810
I think it's genuinely zoomers conflating "physical" with "no DRM" and "digital distribution" with "total DRM".

>>720153093
so what? it's not a fucking xbox. you can buy a drive and put it in your pc right now if you want. nothing stopping you.

>>720158235
I honestly don't know why old PC games couldn't just be ran from the disc like on consoles. The loading times would be worse, but still.

>>720158502
Torrents with tons of seeds is the best way to preserve media.

>>720158075
Also, I don't need to mention how slow GOG downloads are.

>>720158783
Some part of the game would be installed while shit like music played from the disc.

>>720158518
>The jokes is the masters having sex.

>>720152129
New fag is new. Games for windows live comes to mind product keys etc

>>720158821
>seeds
Can you not be a fucking horndog for 5 seconds? Geez!

>>720158783
Game developers are inconsistent in the way they handle temporary data. Some write to the game's base directory. Having it on a read only disc would cause a lot of games to shit a brick.

>>720151723 (OP)
physical is a meme, even transferring a pirated game to your ps2 hard drive is easier than dicking around with discs and failing dvd drives

>storing dozens if not hundreds of discs
>having a disk drive for your PC
>taking discs in and out whenever you want to play anything
vs
>just downloading the files and clicking play

>>720157810
It's a shill campaign backed by DRM companies like Denuvo to distract from the fact that DRM is the real enemy because the goyim got uncomfortably redpilled about it.

>>720159310
But muh ownership!
>>720159368
Yes, Mr. Sherman. Everything is a shill campaign.

>>720152592
*put your installers in a 7zip file and drop into a hard drive
>>720157794
What do you think a hard drive, physical media tard?

>>720159004
Yeah, a lot of games gave you the option to install video files or not because hard drive space was so small.

>>720151723 (OP)
GOG exists.
/thread

>>720154332
>Using software in ways contrary to the license agreement is stealing
The licensing agreement that stuffs denuvo in a game that cripples performance violates my right to enjoy a game, ergo """stealing""" is justified.

>>720159464
>7zip
ISHYGDDT
Captcha: S0YG2

>>720152592
I wish i could stamp art on the DVDs i burn. Well at least i get to make custom box covers. I love GOG.

>>720159610
Okay, so steal Denuvo games. I'll wait.
>no, I'm justified by stealing games that don't use it because I'm brown!

>>720159620
Yeah, but 7zip is freer than nagware checkmate Wincuck.

>>720154098
GOG offline installers are all spit in parts that can fit on DVDs.

>>720159695
>NOOOOOOOOOO SAR YOU MUST REDEEM GAME LEGALLY SAR
>I PAY FOR SHITWARE BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY WHITE SAR
Everyone knows brownoids defend paying for stupid shit because they think it's a status symbol.

>>720159806
>of 34
>>720159850
Ah yes. The "browns have money and buy things while us pureblooded aryan white princes steal" argument.

>>720159310
Well i use DVDs only for my favotie old games that can fit on 2 DVDs max. Everything else i store on external SSD drives. Got two 1 BG drives and one 3+ GIGs baby.
>buy on GOG
>download and put of SSD
Reinstalling games is great this way since you don't have to download the game again untill your SSD bricks and you buy a new one.

>>720158783
there were (sort of) games like that during the fmv craze. you installed the game but you still need to switch discs to load the high data fmvs and other stuff (e.g. riven and myst)
i have a vague memory of either gta vc or 3 on pc putting the radio station music on a disc called a 'play disc' buut like it has been said above hdd space became so large you could just put an image of the disc on your pc or just copy whatever files and everything loaded so fast. also what people forgot was the faster cd drives got the louder they got. i remember having a 48x cd drive and it sounded like a table saw.

>here's your superior physical media bro
I'm all for owning shit but optical fags need to lower their tone. We're now at the point where tons of CDs, DVDs, and even blurays are rotting because they were mastered badly or that companies were lying when they said discs can last for a century if "stored in proper conditions".

>>720159943
Correct you brown asiatic mongrels defend buying stupid shit, even digital rentals. I guess you're only here because there isn't an SKG thread for you to derail.

>>720159943
>of 34
This is for new games like 2077 and BG3 only.
Older games can fit on a single DVD and in some cases a single CD. IMO GOG is better than regular physical if you want to keep your games since you can make your own physical and also get a stored copy on GOGs servers.

>>720157193
Exactly. The issue isn't digital or physical. It's just DRM in general. But physical vs digital is great because it's a distraction from the real issue that retards love arguing over. It parallels politics in the sense that people will spend decades throwing stones at each other over non-issues.

>>720152804
>The linked posts' links are 404'd.
Yeah, I tried burning GOG games a few years ago but it was too hard to find good looking printable covers. All of those threads are dead link graveyards.

>>720160309
I'm brown you use runon sentences and type like an ESL you are an ESL why are you an ESL ahhh!

>>720158540
been thinking about getting blood west, is it good?

>>720151723 (OP)
It's still on a physical medium (HDD/SSD/M2). It's also faster to lend (pirate) as well. Resell can still be a thing but most people won't bother nowadays with cheap high speed internet and "lending" being so prolific.

>pirate games from steamRIP, goggames, fitgirl, rutracker etc, all the normal trusted sources.
>put them in flakpak heroic with latest proton. Put game folders in the .var heroic folder
>add them with the .exe and the art is automatically added in high definition
>press play and it just werks 98% of the time
>buy a pack of 25gb 50 pack of bluray discs for $25, $1 Thin Sharpie, $100 bluray burner
>buy a cd case that holds 200+ for $10
>burn the .zip and .rar to the discs and order them in alphabetical order

It's that simple. It's the exact same as buying from steam and you can own them forever, about $.50 per bluray disc.

You will never be able to do this on a console because they'll always be only online garbage. You'll never own your games.

>>720160713
I miss IndieBox. It was cool when you could get a new indie release in a steelbook package. I wish GOG did something like that.

>>720160865
Never played. I don't even touch the stuff I have on GOG because it's not worth the trouble. It's all free shit.

>>720160748
Did that projection sound funnier in your head, Dalit?

>>720154602
Nothing prevents you from lending out your account name and password to your homies, though.

>>720154808
You're the jew pedo

>>720161009
>calls me a spiritual leader for buddhists for no reason

>>720158632
>>720157810
The kids "jumped on the bandwagon" precisely because of boomers ranting how they couldn't understand digital distribution. In turn they started raving about how much "better" things were with their "old games", by which I mean console games (muh cartridges). They don't acknowledge the retardation that physical computer games always were going back to the days of floppy disks. Said boomers are also ones who will ignore piracy and even condemn it, and also ignore the issues people have are with DRM and always online server activation, not "owning" muh physical property.

Then zoomers see these disingenuous boomers soapboxing about ALL THINGS DIGITAL BAD with rose colored glasses who can't understand differences in storage technology and platforms and develop these Pavlovian responses of "physical = no drm = property owned = good" and ultimately get conned into poisoning the well of discussion by buying tons of rotting plastic garbage instead of a digital solution that offers permanent ownership like GOG backups.

>>720162164
genuinely good post

>People really want to go back to when Starforce DRM could genuinely brick your pc
>People really forgot the horror days of GFWL and how steam gave a better alternative that wasn't just either straight up priating it or buying a console version

>>720152812
easy lmao

>>720162543
Post your physical copy with time stamp.

>>720162164
It's boomer zoomers, really. They're zoomers who hit boomer age (10) and feel like they need to do "retro" and "oldschool" stuff.

Even back in the late 90s game shops wouldn't take PC games as trade-ins.

>>720162834
Here's my "physical copy." The methods will be the same.

>>720163148
So a downloaded ISO that breaks the StarForce DRM. Not applicable for discussion.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/TrackMania_(2003)#cite_note-5

>>720163064
I need to be able to will my games to my children. I have 400 sons (I had 1 daughter, but I drowned her at birth) here in Delhi, and I wish to leave my legacy of fourteen sub-$1 games to them.

>>720163271
Why would I jump through a bunch of hoops and have to dig up my old optical drive instead of just downloading the iso?

>>720162164
>>720162943
They're thinking of old PC gaming like old console gaming. Where you just bought a game, inserted the disc, and played the game with no ability to lose access to it for the foreseeable future so long as the console or its disc drive didn't die or the disc itself didn't get scratched to hell. That's where this notion of physical = good comes from.

>>720163271
Would have broken from the crack I used anyway, but if you really want me to double check, feel free to send me your CD.

>>720163471
Read the link I posted retard.
>The TrackMania Original upgrade uses the new engine from TrackMania Sunrise. However, it has problems running on modern machines. See Update StarForce for operating systems newer than Windows XP and Issues fixed.
>StarForce DRM for this game does not work on modern versions of Windows (see above for affected releases).
The physical version uses StarForce DRM that can potentially brick your computer nowadays. The ISO you downloaded likely removed it, as it should.
>>720163645
Exactly, and those computer illiterate unc-tards have only made the discussion of actually "owning" games worse. And optical media isn't perfect either, games burned to discs are starting to rot nowadays too.

>>720151723 (OP)
M$ did with their Games for Windows Live BS.

>>720159806
Do I need to first copy them to HDD and then run the installer, or can I install it straight from the DVD and the installer will ask me to insert next disc?

>>720151723 (OP)
>PC Games Have Become Digital-Only
dude have you been sleeping for 10 years?

>>720152592
gog is a scam

>>720165392
I blame the CD Keys and online authenticators. Then Games for Windows Live came in and further destroyed the 2nd hand market for PC games. And then Steam buried the corpse into the ground to the point that nobody even cared about collecting physical PC games at all. I have a giant duffle bag of late 2000's early 2010's PC games that were given to me because they knew I collected PC games. I've hanged on to them because they are quite the oddity when you think about it. I doubt physical copies for these games are all that common.

>>720151723 (OP)
well yeah no shit the majority of games are made by small studios with little to no publisher backing so they dont have money to make disks