Thread 720168790

This game almost never got brought to the west and was dying a whimpering death in the superior more intelligent Japanese market.

This was the worst thing to happen to gaming. Gaymers are retarded they should be told what and what not to play. They cannot think for themselves.

DS really pulled the half-health boss turn around irl

WRPGs>>>>JRPGs

>>720168790 (OP)
Dark Souls became so huge not because it was especially great, but just because it tapped into something that was missing at the time. The biggest JRPGs were still Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy, western devs were becoming third person shooter moviegame slop, action games were gatekeeping everyone who wasn't sweaty, and there wasn't anything to really fill the dark fantasy aesthetic, and certainly nothing that filled the moderate challenge chasm that existed between Ninja Gaiden and Uncharted.

It often gets called a revival of NES era game design in PS3 clothing, which is appropriate. It's basically just a barely more sophisticated version of Ocarina of Time's combat. It's low skill, but still high effort.

It has been imitated to death, and even Miyazaki's future games really don't get what made it special, but it's still a worthy game and there's a reason it became as big as it did.

>>720168790 (OP)
I like these games but I'm fatigued on all the sequels/Soul's likes. I mean, how many of these games do you actually need? There's more Souls games at this point than home console Zeldas.

>>720169739
Western gamers don't care about any of that retard they just play slop of the week.

>>720169739
You forgot the astroturffing part by western journalists.

>>720169946
What if we took DS.... but gave it zelda puzzles?

Anyone playing bb

>>720169739
>action games were gatekeeping everyone who wasn't sweaty
Literally every fucking action game from that time had difficulty selection, what the fuck is this insane revisionism?

>>720168790 (OP)
That's Demon's Souls you're thinking of zoomer mutt

>>720168946
fpbp
op internally btfo

>>720170156
Same shit different ass hole. If you play it you're retarded and I'm superior to you.

>>720168790 (OP)
>the superior more intelligent Japanese market.
laughably retarded statement. japs have the most dogshit fucking taste imaginable, it's genuinely impressive how bad their taste is considering they make the best games by far

>>720169739
WRPGs were thriving while Jarpigs were suffering. The west was doing better.

>>720168790 (OP)
you "neversouls" are the most pathetic whiners that have ever graced the board
tranny levels of derangement

>>720170026
Idk, would you say that's what Fallen Order tries to be?

Speaking honestly from the heart, Dark Souls saved gaming. It came out in a time where every game in every genre was regressing in challenge to insulting levels. All games desperately handheld the player in order to get them to the ending credits. Then came Dark Souls and exposed this stupidity in game design for what it was. No other game has had such a positive influence since.

>>720170507
but its impact is negative and a determinant to gaming especially action games

>>720170330
WRPGs were radically more casualized than they were in the 90s. Everything in the west was becoming more streamlined and homogenized, even if they were still making bank they were losing gameplay.

>>720170507
Getting one shot playing simon says isn't
real difficulty

>>720168790 (OP)
3D Castlevania for people with cognitive dissonance.

>>720170507
This kind of take is where things go off the rails. Dark Souls didn't save anything except for Fromsoft's bank account. It filled a hole that needed filling at the time. It presented a low skill combat system that still presented plenty of challenge within that framework.

The attempt to endlessly imitate Souls right down to its piles of corpses and cryptic lore and dodge rolls is currently doing a lot more harm than good.

>>720170507
DS ruined gaming by making everything homogenized and easy

>>720170507
The problem is that the 360/PS3 era killed genres by homogenizing everything starting around 2008, and didn't go full swing until 8th gen. Now everything is aping Souls, like everything was aping Mass Effect, CoD, Far Cry 3 and Last of Us.

>>720170674
You need to put it in the context of the time period. Actual gameplay was dying, moviegames were dominating.