Thread 720194250

I had no idea there was a timer on this delivery quest until the last second.

>>720194250 (OP)
this game is probably the hardest game i've played in years in terms of mechanics. it's fun, but I can see why normies are mad.

you know what area this is if you did it.

Patch coming next week
Some balance adjustments for rosary prices and rewards in the mid game and a lot of bug fixes

it's better to screenshot your map than pause your game
reading the map in-game doesn't pause the game

>>720194250 (OP)
now i understand why anons are struggling with this youre WASTING TIME BY LOOKING AT THE MAP LIKE THAT JUST PAUSE THE GAME AND USE THE FULL MAP FROM THE MENU

tools use so many shards, but enemies dont drop tons of shards, what do?

>>720194308
I don't know how a game can have two 'escape from an exploding volcano' sequences and they be the best sequences in the game.
>>720194345
>Removed float override input
Uhhhhhh what? Why would they just remove an incredibly useful tool like that? It didn't always work but some jumps on way to Surface seem to require that.

>>720194404
it's hard even with the speed boots, you have to avoid being hit and go mach 10 on the left or right path, one bad dash and you get hit once or twice and that's almost gg.

>>720194351
It pauses if you go into your menu to read the full map

>>720194308
>took three tries to get through the escape in Far Fields
>got this one in one go with no serious mistakes
I know it's harder so either I leveled up or had luck of the gods for a hot minute.

>>720194345
>nerf the bird boss and the mole
why? they are not even hard. People bitch about hunter march

>>720194345
>Moorwing and Sister Splinter nerfed

FUUUUUUUCK
THEY WERE COMPLETELY FINE

>>720194498
>People bitch about hunter march
Why would they nerf Hunter's March because people acted like retards?

So I was in a hallway in choral chambers where that npc with the mustache was defeating some enemies, but I died and now he's not there.

>>720194308
i know normies are gonna shit their panties over this one but realistically theyre not even reaching that

>>720194441
don't use tools unless you really need them
they don't give any silk so you can't heal either

Are people really having trouble with First Sinner? How? It's just a simple dance.

>>720194345
OH NO NO NO NO WE NEED TO FINISH THE GAME RIGHT NOW

>>720194582
Using tools reduces the likelihood that you'll need to be healing in the first place though.

>>720194551
no i didn't mean that. People should be punished for entering a hard area early game yes
i just mean nerfing those two bosses seems like a retarded decision

>>720193541
The focus gauge is around the circle thingy near the health bar.

>>720194585
people just cant grasp the concept of a boss that doesnt let you hit it for free

>>720194345
yup im gonna keep playing the pirated game instead of buying

>>720194345
>Moorwing
I mean I think it's fine but okay.
>Sister Splinter
Genuinely why?

>>720194345
I can understand making Sister Splinter a little easier, but Moorwing was fine

>>720194345
>nerf moorwing and sister splinter
Aaaaaand negative review left!

>>720194345
It's over

Folks, i wanna know why witch crest is S-tier despite no yellow slot for yellow tools.

>>720194345
gamers lost

This is fucking Elden Ring all over again.

Lads keep your release copies on hand.
Things are only going to get worse. When they add a bench closer to Last Judge and Groal then it's truly over.

>>720185973
>YOU FOOL! YOU FELL VICTIM TO ONE OF THE CLASSIC BLUNDERS, THE MOST FAMOUS OF WHICH IS "NEVER GET INTO A LAND WAR IN HALLOWNEST," BUT ONLY SLIGHTLY LESS WELL KNOWN IS THIS; "NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON A BELL WHEN AN ACHIEVEMENT IS ON THE LINE"

What do I do about the ghosts in the mist? I noticed they started freaking out when I played music, but I'm not sure if there's more to it.

>>720194695
>huge flying enemy with a fucky hitbox that does 2 contact damage
nah, Moorwing is fucking dogshit

>>720194345
Fugg and I was planning on buying it for cheevos
Guess Ill just stick to my gog-games release

>>720194731
Play with the moveset and find out.
Injector band is essential to make its heal usable though.

when do i stop using the hunter crest, I just unlocked the witch one

>>720194794
kill them

>>720194610
There's only a few mobs that really need it. Most of them have choreographed moves that you can dash away from. I only use tools if I'm getting ganked by multiple enemies.

>>720194345
>moorwing nerf
Hopefully the reddit wife can beat it now

>>720194731
>Lost in some weird ass hospital
>Scared shitless
>Valiant warrior in red descends to save her ass
>"Oh I don't know what this is but it seems nice, I want you to have it"
>Hornet hits this fucking pose

I fucking laughed my ass off, I bet she was so fucking confused in that scene.

>>720194794
you can kill them

>>720194473
i had no idea what was causing my double jump to not go off, so I can why they removed it, as it can be a very confusing mechanic.
it would probably be better if they just explained it somehow

WHY WOULD YOU NERF MOORWING

THERE ARE LITERALLY TWO OTHER WAYS TO GET TO BELLHART

>Get the quest to face off against Pinstress
>Think it's going to be one of those kino 1 on 1 fights since it's against another pin user
>Finally get there
>She flies
At least the runback wasn't bad at all

About Crests, what are the trigger points for upgrading them below Bone Bottom in the Weavernest? I got the Hunter upgrade and the yellow sidecrest and I'm doing the "collect the three songs" quest now but she won't give anything new up.

>>720194250 (OP)
GET BACK HERE YOU BITCH SO I CAN HIT YOU

No other flyer in the game is this annoying, especially witth the way the bell bounces.

>>720194345
Pirategods won

>>720194345
>for a second patch

BROS.... THEY'RE RUINING THE GAME....................

So this is another kingdom-ending infection.

>>720194250 (OP)
Lol, I knew about the timer but I also made it with just seconds left because I was stupid and got hit twice and bumped a wall once

>>720194817
the moveset is good but despite being HK pogo but better (to me), it has not yellow slots which is essential for exploring. No compass no magnets, is this for combat focus only?

the nerfs are gonna be like -1 nail hit to kill lmao

>>720194345
Sister Splinter was hard?

Comfy Hornet

>>720194404
that was the full map

>went "god is it over yet" at least 3 times during the gauntlet
holy fuck sawblades saved my ass

>>720194345
Oh FUCK
Sandcarvers are the sand worm environtal hazard
This means they dont do 2 damage now

We are so cucked /v/

>>720194345
I can understand Moorwing getting nerfed because he's a faggot flying enemy, but Sister Splinter? she was completely fine

>>720194905
I think it's number of tools slots because I've gotten upgrades from both spending memory crests to unlock slots and from getting new crests

rip I guess?
can you pogo off of it?

People shit on Bilewater but Holy fuck Sinners road is ten fucking times worse.

Small Spoiler but whoever decided to fix the bench you need to do a mini hall of pain is fucking deranged. Worst fucking area by fucking far

>>720194990
Someone post the difficulty curve some guy who died a ton to Sister Splinter made.

>>720195007
It's the kind of thing that in hindsight feels like a mistake. They don't really do two damage they just hit you twice for some reason.

>>720194964
You should have a single universal yellow slot by the time you even get it. It is a downside though yes.

>balance changes
>to a singleplayer game
what is this absolute faggot shit

>>720194404
You don't need to pause the game
You can double tap the map button to instantly open the full map
You can also play music to summon the Bell Beast at the stations

>>720195043
yeah you can, I've abused that a couple times to skip platforming segments.

>>720194992
Comfier!

I don't mind the game being too difficult, but it feels too punishing

It's hard to learn bosses when it takes so long to get to them and die so fast cause hornet takes 2x mask damage and has so few i-frames

>>720194932
Hate these niggers like you wouldnt believe
Especially once they start dealing 2 damage

>>720194345
Cowards. I don't know why it has the reputation it has because Moorwing is genuinely one of the easiest bosses in the game

>>720195043
what is that hp bar above the mob?

>>720195065
oh fuck i forgot about that. Ok thanks

>>720195053
theres a boss after all the shit in bilewater though theres literally nothing on sinners rise

>>720194345
- Fixed a situation where players could remain cloakless
Ruined.

>>720194932
The trick with most flying chucklefucks that throw shit at you is to hit their projectiles. Sometimes they'll bounce back and hit them.

>>720195089
This, instead of nerfing bosses they should just add some fucking benches

2 full hours for this... I don't even know anymore, man...

>>720195064
a lot of things do this it's insane. Not sure if they are all intended

why do redditors complain when they die to a boss a single time? do they just think theyre entitled to beating every boss without a little bit of effort?

>>720195138
In Sinner's Rise, you ARE the boss once you meet Styx.

Ok one last question, afaik Act 2 triggers by defeating last judge, but if you entered the citadel through the other way, will it still trigger Act 2?

>>720195154
How about neither?

>>720195175
I cheesed it with no remorse. Just dumped 10 caltrops on the floor before they spawned

>>720195151
I know, but for these fuckers I can never get the angle right, because they arc their throw so hard.

>>720195053
i guess you didn't explore the upper part of bilewater. That's the retarded part people complain

>>720195058
hurry up niggers i need to see this

>>720195220
Yup

>>720195202
I'm entitled to throwing myself head-first against the boss until I beat it fair and square, I DON'T want an obligatory platforming section before being allowed another chance against the boss

The zero suit samus section was fun

dude i fell during flea bounce and barely gripped the edge of the raft and did a wall jump back into the game, didn't get the score i want but that was miraculous

>Eva upgrades depends on movement abilities
>Eva upgrades depends on Silkheart!
>Eva upgrades depends on Crest!
>Eva upgrades depends on unlocked locket!
>Eva upgrades depends on silk skill!
I think everything is true, each things adds invisible exp point to the next upgrade.

>>720195224
That would be best but if TC is going to try and appease redditwives (which they are) nerfing runbacks would be better than nerfing bosses

No...

>>720194250 (OP)
when i collected enough fleas for the caravan to move into the spot of the last judge, one of their number disappeared...

is he just like perma dead now or do i need to find and rescue his ass from somewhere?

>>720195202
because hollow knight was so incredibly easy even a karen with 8 kids could beat it with no issue. so, when silksong came out, the same redditors thought it'd be a breeze like hollow knight and they'll explore the world and lore and have a cozy time. it's a mass ego-check.

>>720195263
welp i guess im not getting double jump while still retaining in act 1 then

>>720194834
are you in act 3? because there is something that changes that, for all enemies.

>>720194932
Use your harpoon ffs

>>720195220
Yeah that's what I did. Cutscene happens right after you exit the Grand Bellway then Lace shows up to taunt you

>>720195280
you see thats very fair but
>moorwing
>sister splinter
theres zero runback to these

>>720194345
>nerfing the 2 best early bosses
Fuck that. I'm getting Radahn flashbacks.

>>720195298
Who the fuck is this guy? Ive seen him in the target room but he pops out when I get close, never seen him anywhere else and I finished act 3

>compass not only takes one charm slot like in HK, but it also prevents you from equipping all the other yellow type charms
Please tell me there's a workaround in late game

700 hundred down the drain. Really making those "exploration rewards" feel worthwhile.

>>720195298
how does this lil nigga even die? im at the end of act 2 with every map unlocked and he's still there...

>>720195369
Get a Vesticrest.

>>720195304
He's just chilling in a wagon

>>720195281
Did I seriously miss this because I killed a dude without getting hit

>>720195369
Yeah you get an extra slot that's independent of the crest

>>720195380
he is dead when you reached act 2 iirc

>>720195403
nope, that's where he goes in greymoor
when you move the caravan again to the last judge's spot, they specifically say that they lost track of that guy

>OH NO, THE RUNBACK, THE TERRIBLE NO GOOD DASTARDLY RUNBACK
>THE GAME IS JUST WAY TOO PUNISHING THIS THIS UNBEARABLE RUNBACK
>the terrible no good dastardly runback in question

>>720195363
hit all the targets with one boomerang

>>720195408
>he missed the ugly bastard gangrape scene
RIP

Any obvious places for future DLC?

>>720194509
Moorwing was absolutely not fucking fine.
Sister Splinter was basically fine... but those adds were the only hard part of the fight and pretty bullshit honestly.
I'm interested to see what they change.

>>720194345
>slight difficulty reduc-
You didn't beat the game.

>>720195348
it looks like wherever you are inside the citadel, lace will always show up and triggered act 2? I wonder if in the future speedrunners can find a way to skip this

>>720195298
where is this?

>>720195408
There's 4 of them that I know of. That guy, one in Hunter's March, one in Bilewater, and one in Deep Docks

>>720195408
they can be found in multiple locations, you should be fine

>>720195369
not even lategame. once you get the ability to play music from your needle go to the locked spider door in moss grotto and you'll get something that eliminates this inconvenience

>>720195463
No, the adds were just as piss easy as the bitch herself and have no hp. You can parry them away.

>>720195452
I hope they do DLC different than the first game.
Don't mix it in with base content. Just give us Act 4.

>>720195452
ants

>>720195440
Ooooo, my bad, I haven't gotten to move a second time yet

widow is eating my ass way harder than sister splinter did, but I'm also having way more fun
I think I just hate adds. it would be fine if they were a phase-change intermission, but having to fight them and the boss at the same time sucks. I ended up just spamming the gossimer storm to instakill them and not healing for splinter.

>>720195445
zoomers wouldn't survive 5 minutes in a bilewater lobby

>>720194474
you can clear the enemies from your chosen route first to make it easier

>>720194351
double tap the map button bro, it takes you to the pause screen map.

>>720194345
>Nerf the two easiest bosses in the game
>Pretend you did something
Devious

>>720195445
now put the bilewater runback.

>>720195452
Need some Manus hands to whisk me away to another dimension in all of the pointless dead end spike areas

>>720195536
no worries!
i am just kind of paranoid about some of these npcs have missable quests (sherma? this caravan guy that i mentioned? garmond and zaza?) that will result in them being permaded if you progress too far without finishing them

>>720195070
i had thought about trying that second one but never got around to it, neat to know it works.

>>720194497
You just locked the fuck in anon. It's the most but clenching part of the game and you pulled through.

>>720195447
fuck i still havent bought the rang

>>720195452
hallownest

>>720195512
Yeah, but they crowd you and have to be taken out really quick and they distract you while the boss attacks and shit they're just annoying. She summons them way too often too.

yeah but wheres the nerf to everything doing two dmg for no fucking reason? only big moves should do that holy fuck phantom which is very easily missable is one of the only bosses that does this right

>>720195516
Don't worry it will be godhome 2.0, except when you fail a boss rush the run back will be 30 min

>>720195662
They are already getting rid of some enviromental hazards doing two mask damage.

>>720195452
That surface area above GM Silk arena

>>720195662
There's already an easy mode mod for "people" like you.

>>720195151
the real trick to flying fuckers is to just throw your own shit at them, either your silk spear that does 3 hits of damage, or your favorite tool if you want to save silk for healing.

>Magnetic dice triggering 3 times in one boss fight
Whats the chance of these triggering again?

DSP is NOT happy about the game.

>>720195662
They already said they did that before.

>>720194932
Wait until you get to putrid ducts. They already outdid themselves with the mosquitos in bilewater but these chucklefucks are something else. Grade A Australian shitposting.

WHERE'S THE FUCKING MAP

>>720195591
From the station or the secret bench?

>>720194250 (OP)
This looks like a Newgrounds flash game

>>720195662
check the latest discussion , a patch preview was posted an hour ago.

>>720195648
I got hit by them once the whole fight, sounds like a skill issue to me.

>>720195737
Bold of you to assume there is one

>>720195693
>>720195725
Fucking disgusting.

>>720195747
based

You guys do realize they'll nerf High Halls and Beastfly next, right?

It's over

>>720195737
remember the dildo thingy in the ceiling? It's not a level, it's a stair

Now fix the runback you BITCH

>>720195737
Vaults? IIRC it's up high.
Speaking of maps I'm sad how most of the Act 2 areas are just map kiosks. I wanted more Shakra.

>>720195807
No, I don't

>>720195805
>queue +10 years of elder /v/tards gloating that only THEY experienced the true version of the game
>everyone else who played post nerfs is clearly a casual shitter and probably a zoomer too
lel

>>720194345
>they're fixing the snitch pick
I knew that shit was busted. Going to make farming a lot easier now.

>>720195490
Hunter's March bench room. It's hidden.

>>720195693
>>720195725
>>720195748
im not talking about environmental dmg the platforming is baby tier shit but every stray hit from any boss doing two dmg because it hits two times for some reason

>>720195126
Anon's a shitter using mods to make the game easier.

>>720195845
uh why dont you fixate and intensely stare at every single dildo-shaped object that you come across?
you know, like a normal person does

>>720195876
They'll nerf it to zero damage just so reddit man's wife can beat the game :)

But when are they going to simplify the tutorial?

>>720195901
I found it literally right after

>>720195445
Nah, THIS is a runback

>removed float override
But why though?

>>720194959
I made it all the way to his room, missed the ceiling entrance and bumped into the door, ruining my run. Never wanted to kill someone so bad.

>>720195940
>not pictured: the hidden bench closer to the boss

>>720195969
THERE"S A HIDDEN BENCH?!

>>720195189
that guy is a drill and shoots drills, it makes sense he does 2 damage. now what doesn't make sense is the clockwork gears you're supposed to pogo off of trapping you and dealing 2 damage despite them having nothing near them to trap you in. Like i get the gears on the walls grinding you up, but free floating gears should just work like spikes.

>>720195805
I'm deep in Act 3's butthole so almost none of this affects me. Everything is pain now. But I honestly don't care if other players have a less punishing time.

>>720195940
>He didn't find the secret bench

>>720195869
sorry for asking, was it too much or too little? So im guessing the day 1 snitch pick is a farming tool?

>>720195940
lmao-ing @ your life, benchlet
>>720195990
>>720196017

>>720195487
Lace actually has a lot of places where she'll show up in your path. If you skip Deep Docks in act 1 she can show up in Sinner's Road or the bridge to Blasted Path (and this will actually lock you out of her first fight)

>>720194345
What's the point of balance patching a singleplayer game that is very well reasonably beatable.

>>720195990
embrace getting mucked when exploring
you will find it

>>720194345
They don't need to nerf a single boss, they need to buff Hornet's attacks so her needle upgrades are actually worth the massive pain in the ass it takes to get them

>>720195909
i dont give a shit about cuckmans bull cumsocket not every weak ass boss mindless slash should do two dmg

>>720195613
As far as I know there's no missable quests or items for completion

>>720196059
It was nothing at all. It actually seemed to reduce the drops you'd get when killing enemies somehow. It's supposed to give you some extra loot when using the clawline.

>>720196073
because innocent redditors are screaming at team cherry cuz their wife and their wife's son cant get past the savage niggerfly boss

>>720195747
early 2000s Newgrounds was the most soulful internet era so that's a good thing.

>>720195952
whats that?

>>720196091
Based on what people playing with debug tools have reported Hornet's damage scaling is the exact same as the Knight's. You start out at 5dmg and each upgrade is +4.

Just attempted the frozen mountain. Got pretty far, I think, but in the final stretch it became clear that you're not supposed to try it until you have a move that lets you shoot straight up at a 90 degree angle or something. Kind of fucked up to let me that far, get trapped in a frozen lake I can't recover from, and never recover my 900 rosarie beads, but okay.

>>720195549
Ok I beat widow on my
>last one before I really should go piss
attempt. Easily most fun boss fight so far. Went down to 1 hp several times in phase two.

why do these basic enemies take like 5 hits to kill? when is the first nail upgrade? I am assuming there are nail upgrades.

>>720194345
Add an option to let me take off my cloak and needle whenever I want.

>>720196109
welp i thought when you said broken as in OP farming tool but nvm

>>720196073
this is not even a balance patch its just a bandaid fix to things shitters were complaining about i.e. moorwing
now when they finally beat it because of the crutch they were given theyre gonna complain about last judge and cogwork dancers you just cant give anything to these insects they will just keep asking for more

>>720196198
you can upgrade your nail after you defeat widow, the first real boss of the game

>>720196171
>but in the final stretch it became clear that you're not supposed to try it until you have a move that lets you shoot straight up at a 90 degree angle or something
Harpoon is all you need. Go back and do it faggot

I'm never finishing this game...

>>720196198
because you need to use your silk skill and the game is punishing you for being bad

>>720195567
It doesn't work like that, does it
I did that on HK but enemies respawn in this game even if you don't use benches/fast travel

Why does everyone hate this? It's the best crest once you get good.

>>720196150
there's no way the first upgrade is that big. i believe it for the 2nd and 3rd upgrades though. but you have enemies going from 5 hits to 4 hits, and i don't think that's even possible when going from 5 to 9 damage.

>>720196260
cuz of the pogo

>>720196260
the jump attack

>>720196171
uhh no that is meant to be done with clawline, dash and wall cling only hell you cant even get there without clawline

>>720196282
>>720196273
Like I said, you just need to get good.

>>720196248
Don't believe you.

>>720196068
Understandable, but im fine with doing everything first before progressing to act 2

>>720196308
i refuse

>>720196256
enemies that drop rosaries do not

>>720196260
>No blue crests.
Into the trash it goes!

>>720196198
They want you to use tools and silk skills. The nail stops feeling so pathetic only after 2 upgrades

>>720196273
>>720196282
The pogo on beast is the best one for actually fighting. You can chain on enemies who are moving fast or are far apart.

>>720196351
That's not true, the pilgrims all respawn

>>720196171
well this should be a good laugh in a few hours when he realizes he was actually on the right track before he ragequit the mountain.

>>720196150
>each upgrade is +4.
the last two should be +5 then, problem solved

>>720196313
well its your loss retard that shit is easily doable with the hook but come back later then and realize theres no other movement tool to find

In putrified ducts right now. Do I need that super jump or whatever people were talking about to get to that ledge or am I just shit and missing something obvious.

>>720194250 (OP)
Are they fucking mental with the coral tower? Is that required to finish the game? If so I'm not going to be able to do this. Is it like 3 fucklong gauntlets and a boss without any bench or rest?

>>720196260
If you're really good, as in not getting hit, the default one should outdamage this by a decent amount after fully upgraded.

>>720196414
NEVERMIND I COMPLETELY FORGOT YOU CAN SPRINT AND JUMP

have to say Coral region was pretty fun. Did people really struggle with the boss?

>>720196362
this, i cant play without no yellow/blue slots

>>720196384
they do not respawn you are sitting at a bench and causing them to respawn

>>720196438
Someone said you can open a shortcut after the third gauntlet. I'll find out tomorrow. I've gotten deep into the third one twice but my nerves got to me both times. I'm getting pretty good at handling most of the mobs in the first two though.

>>720196171
clawline pops you up when you hit an enemy which is all the extra height you need

Patch Notes

- Fixed situation where players could remain cloakless after Slab escape sequence.
- Fixed wish Infestation Operation often not being completable during the late game.
- Fixed wish Beast in the Bells not being completable when Bell Beast is summoned at the Bilewater Bellway during the late game.
- Fixed getting stuck floating after down-bouncing on certain projectiles.
- Fixed courier deliveries sometimes being inaccessible in Act 3.
- Fixed craft bind behaving incorrectly when in memories.
- Fixed Lace tool deflect soft-lock at start of battle in Deep Docks.
- Fixed Silk Snippers in Chapel of the Reaper sometimes getting stuck out of bounds.
- Fixed Claw Mirrors leaving Hornet inverted if taking damage during a specific moment while binding.
- Fixed Snitch Pick not giving rosaries and shell shards as intended.
- Removed float override input (down + jump, after player has Faydown Cloak).
- Slight difficulty reduction in early game bosses Moorwing and Sister Splinter.
- Reduction in damage from Sandcarvers.
- Slight increase in pea pod collider scale.
- Slight reduction in mid-game Bellway and Bell Bench prices.
- Slight increase in rosary rewards from relics and psalm cylinders.
- Increase in rosary rewards for courier deliveries.
- Various additional fixes and tweaks.

All fixes will apply retroactively, so players who've hit a significant bug that prevents progress may want to switch over to public-beta to receive the fix.

Further fixes are already being worked on for a second patch. If you have an issue and you don't see the solution in the list above, we may be working on it.

Additional details and temporary solutions for some of the more critical bugs mentioned above are available at https://hollowknightsilksong.com/help


THEY ARE NERFING THE BOSSES

>>720196308
Reaper is comfy
I could care less about DPS when spending more time on a boss's early phase better prepares you to beat their second phase on the first try.

How do I beat these gay (cute) robot bugs
I simply cannot learn their timings...

>>720196105
what about achievements? I think I skipped a lot of stuff and going back now I'm wondering if some things are missing

>>720196480
Nope, you can try it yourself, the pilgrims specifically (not the chorus guys in masks) all respawn when you exit a room

>>720196501
>the third gauntlet
by the third gauntlet I lose

>>720196313
Harpoon being the only thing you need to access Mount Fay not a big enough clue for you?

I have to admit im impressed that they managed to make more cancer enemies in act 3 than before.

>>720196306
>>720196412
>>720196412
Well I feel foolish now. I did it, I got my beads back at least, I thought one of the ice walls was unscalable because it looked similar to the unscalable ones.

>>720196567
Oh no, I'm just about to enter Act 3, and you've got me worried now.

>>720196581
oh i know exactly where you're talking about. I thought it was weird that wall was ice textured too considering every other flat wall was rock .

>>720196545
FWIW I'm a Reaperfag and after a gauntlet I heal and then immediately start smacking the free enemies in the hallways for all that juicy bonus silk so I've almost got two full heals going into the next one.

>>720196567
All enemies get the same four attacks. The bad part is the doubled health.

>>720196541
do you think im stupid you faggot? why would i say they do not respawn if i hadnt tested it before? i cleared all the way backwards from the gourmet room to bellhart and the way back was devoid of enemies because i did not sit on a bench

I'm at 93% completion bros... only a little bit more before I can forget about the runbacks... about the flying enemies... only a little bit more until I'm free until the dlc

why is there a ledge here?

>>720196508
slowpoke

We all agree wanderer is the gayest and most boring crest right? although three yellows is nice.

Couldn't you skip the Silkspear and Bell Beast entirely if you want to do the lowest completion%?
>grind to 500 for the simple key from the pilgrims
>go through Wormways to Shellwood and get wall climb (and Needolin)
>go under Bellhart to the Marrow and get the dash

>>720194250 (OP)
Dude same and right after prepping the route

>>720196567
The void enemies suck ass but eventually you figure out that apart from having more health they all have the same extra void attacks and they're all telegraphed by them going dark. So you learn one you've learned them all.

Even though I'm used to these games being full of stabbing and whatnot I was caught off guard by Hornet flat out snapping the dude's neck in the prison.

>>720196534
Achievements are definitely missable since there's one for a special ending that requires you to not finish a quest

>>720194992
>>720195084
Even comfier

>>720194473
Surface absolutely doesn't require and in fact it interfered with pogoing off those shell niggers up the shaft

>>720195315
honestly I doubt these people even finished hollow knight on their own. They looked at guides and builds/watched streamers beat the harder bosses

(Act 3)
How can I progress with the Green Prince to unlock Verdania?

>>720196681
Same, but the fat bastard was mocking her so he had it coming

>>720196669
and then you get gauntlets with multiples spamming aoes, and the void shit drains your silk so you cant heal.

fun

>>720196654
Wanderer is for people who can't let go of HK.

>>720196682
>a special ending that requires you to not finish a quest
that is extremely gay, do you know the name of the quest?

>>720196651
cozy

>>720194345
If you don't have all achievements unlocked by next week you didn't beat the game.

>>720196760
hes on a cave to the right of the crow dome on greymoor i had to look that one up because i would never have gone there desu

>>720195463
what about moorwing is hard exactly?

>>720196654
enjoy getting one attack off while i get three

>>720196782
honestly me, i can try and adapt with diagonal pogo but im getting too comfortable down slash across all metroidvania games

>>720196862
he flies and deals 2 points of contact damage

Can someone point to me where the ingredient in sinner's road is?

>>720196803
if you used any crest other than beast AT ANY POINT IN THE GAME you didn't beat the game

>>720195452
This room with nothing in it
You get some lines of dialogues if you use the needle. I was thinking there should be a dream boss there

did anyone manage to fill out the journal. you just get a beast shard for it don't you.

>>720196862
nothing but some redditor wife could not beat it because she was thinking about her bull so she blamed the boss instead

Do I people actually having a problem with Sis Splinter? she's one of the very few bosses I actually first try'd.

>>720196903
the bottom right area has a place where you can double jump, or lure the flying guy over there to jump on

>>720196915
a beast shard would be too much, the satisfaction of having completed the hunter's journal is more than enough

>>720196834
He's not there, it's blocked off

>>720196934
i did but i found her early and was getting used to the game still
did not need a nerf at all

my crest tier list so far
easy mode tier:
>Reper
big hits tier:
>Mechanic
speedrunner tier:
>Hunter
hard mode tier:
>Wanderer
can't heal normally tier
>Witch
>Beast

>>720195463
>Moorwing was absolutely not fucking fine.

>>720196909
place?

>>720197034
>bug abusing a bug

>>720197034
>trapped him in the corner and still fucked up the pogo

>>720197021
Honestly I might have to give Artifact a try. I saw someone who was using a heal build doing Karmelita and they were absolutely eating shit during the fight but they were generating so much silk and doing six mask heals that they still got through the fight while I struggled just trying to actually learn the mechanics.

Witch heal is actually alright if you combine it with the injector and mirror. It is still inherently more risky though.

>>720196996
damn i dont know if you can still do it then because he shows up last on the cogwork dancers arena but its destroyed in act 3, but he also shows up on the corridor on top of the choral chambers travel station so try there

>>720197034
ofc it's a wanderercuck

>>720197034
Jesus christ just how tanky are the bosses in this game

I see the skull shaped hp in most of people's screencaps and I never got it. How early was that trinket?

>>720196887
nigga jump over him its one button and he flies from halfway across the screen

>>720196073
It's to stop overweight redditors from beating their wives after getting frustrated at the game.

>>720197162
Hidden shop in Hunter's March so pretty early.

>look up cheevos
>beat the game in 5 hours
Understandable
>complete the game to 100%...
Understan
>...in 30 hours
That's gay as fuck.

>>720197034
>crutch mask
talk about things that actually SHOULD cost shards to replace...

>>720194956
Yes. Reminder to never transplant invasive species.

>>720196171
Bro your silkeaters?

>explore around everywhere I can in act 11
>think that the melodies are guarded by bosses directly, and that they'll give me an upgrade, perhaps a movement upgrade
>see that I can only go for the archive one because the other two are locked behind the harpoon
>think that it's strange of them to not let you choose which, doesn't fit with the rest of the game design
>get the archive melody after fighting trobkino
>confused
>after doubling around half the citadel, finally find the place in the underworks I didn't explore
>notice the weaver shrine on the map, but don't think it's an actual shrine because it's tiny
>go there
>turns out it was small on the map because it's fucked up
>get harpoon. Nice. Takes some time to get used to but it's fun
>around this time also find my way to bilewater
>find the little piece of shit screaming faggot thing
>explore what I can there, but the rest of it seems to be locked behind double jump
>go up to that locked bellhouse to give that dude the weird thing, seems like he would want it
>nevermind then, he tells me to fuck off
>only other place I can think of is the roots vine thing in shellwood
>go there
>she rapes me
>body now full of a fucking parasite mass of vines
>I like the moveset tho
>think if I go to the robotweaverchild in Atla weavenest she can help me
>she tells me to fuck off cause I'm dangerous
>figure now is when I should see the bellhouse guy
>check with some npcs, they all direct me there
>go there
>it's actually a girl (imagine my shock)
>she tells me to go to sinner's path and get some shit from a couple of cunts
>retrieve it
>the fly bitch rapes me, too. Except this time it gets the parasite under control
>now have the crest of the witch
>decide to look into a couple other previous areas I needed the harpoon for, just to get my map cleaned up
>go to blasted steps, the needledyke hut
>use the harpoon
>expect to find a mask shard or something
>find coral forest instead
Well, I had a productive day

>>720194345
>nerfed Moorwing
Good.
>nerfed Sister Splinter
Bad.
>nerfed prices and buffed income
Good.

>>720197148
and that's on act 2 which means probably having the first needle upgrade. it's harder on act 1 where you're actually supposed to fight it

>>720197221
They aren't going to finish the game unless it's butchered though.

>>720194345
fromsoftian

>>720196636
You are retarded

Will I get to learn this guy's story at some point?

You can dash downwards

how the fuck do you reach act 3 bosses areas?? i have only defeated Crust King

i got lost and hit once in the citadel but the speed anklets make it ez mode

>>720197148
>>720197289
That is without using any of the attack options at your disposal other than a basic attack.

>>720196073
>single player game means that the difficulty doesn't need to be well tuned
holy shit the amount of times I've seen this absolute braindead take is unreal

>>720194794
Does the music stun them?

>>720197263
>act 11
wtf I'm 20h in act 2 it's over for me

>>720197306
He's a dream boss.

>>720196654
It's good for certain situation that benefit from a down pogo (very vertical combat in narrow spaces), and the running attack combo kicks ass for smaller enemies.

I simply won’t update my game with the babymode nerfs.

>>720197263
>Act 11
This game is big huh....

>>720197325
How about we have an "original" difficulty mode, without any of the idiot baby changes, and a "journalist" difficulty mode for people like you?

This is funnier than it should be

>>720195189
It's intended
A lot of attacks you can just clash to neutralize, the double-hit ones can't be clashed

>Choral Chambers OST
I originally thought city of tears couldn't be topped but I was fucking wrong

>>720194585
She moves super fast m8 and it is difficult to keep the pace with her. At least it was for me. I was stuck on her for hours.

Anons how do i get the flea thats in the underworks above the wisp thicket, do I need to beat the bass to get it?

>>720197343
He's a Wrym right

>>720197397
Wisp thicket?

>>720196784
It's the one when you get aids, the twisted bud

>>720197021
Witch fucks with the faster charge attack charm on

>>720197298
>picks the one fucking room where enemies respawn for some reason
fuck you disingenous faggot im not booting up my game to prove you wrong

>>720195501
The one in Bilewater got me

>>720194932
Use the needle harpoon m8.

>void enemy gauntlet spamming void abilities that removes silk and does damage
absolute cancer

>>720197452
Suck my dick, that's the route I took for the quest so I remembered they respawn. All the hallways guys do.

>>720197382
who was he talking about btw? trobbio?

>>720197229
Its probably easier than it seems, HK 100% speedrun cheevo sounded hard as fuck but I firdt tried it with hours to spare

Why do so many people in /v/ attribute so much value and self-worth to how hard the game version someone played is?

>>720196654
wanderer is completely OP

>>720197382
I was wondering who this was about. Lace?

>>720197507
Wanderer and Longclaw make a great combo

I hope to god there isn't a godhome equivalent where you have to beat it without charms.
Because there are charms in the game that can become part of your playstyle and it's scam to punish people for comitting their use to muscle memory.
Like the charm that lets you jump back fast, the hold on to walls charm and the attck on flat charm to name a few.

FINALLY beat this fucker! Took like 2 hours but i got him.

>>720197498
It's less your insecurity and more your inability to play a game makes you a shitter within the confines of discussion of the game

>>720197397
in the wisp thicket but not in the boss room
hidden wall

The choral chamber music is so fucking good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTicXQYw2ts

>>720195501
1 appears near bar or closer to station after you enter citadel

>>720195675
I've been playing the game with the boss rush in consideration in the back of my mind
There's several bosses that I feel even though I've learned them, I won't be able to guarantee a victory over them every time

>>720197498
I suffered why shouldn't they?

>>720197485
you took a dogshit path the enemies on the vertical rooms with the spikes did NOT respawn, the spear dudes on shellwood did NOT respawn and the bronze guardians and drill mosquitoes on blasted steps did NOT respawn and i walked through multiple areas

>>720197316
Look for ceilings to use your new ability on near the other 2
If you want to know exactly where then the grand gates broken elevator room and the ant areas statue room

>>720195452
Surface

>>720197570
I'm more talking about the >if you didn't blahblahblah you didn't beat the game

>>720194345
is Moorwing the one that you unknowingly skip if you go with the fleas? Odd that they'd nerf an optional boss

hows my house

>>720197550
>lets you jump back fast
what?

Does anyone else think the Far Fields OST sounds like something from Skyrim?

>>720197576
It makes me too sad.

>>720197047
In whiteward, it's in a place you can only access with the megajump

>>720197392
>choral chambers
>coral chambers
Fucking creatively bankrupt devs
on a serious note I do agree. The citadel music is peak. The music in all of HK was great, but I only really remember dirtmouth, the city of tears, and the end boss music. In here it seems like every other place has a masterpiece song attached to it. Bellhart theme is my favorite, but the clockwork core and choral chambers are also amazing. The one thing I think was missing was a "moment" like when you first reach city of tears and you can sit on a bench with quirrel and just listen to the music and stare out the window. There isn't really a place early on that you can do that with the citadel. A damn shame. This one spot is the closest it came

>>720197636
Fit for a princess.

>>720197649
i havent played skyrim

Has anyone gone back to watching the trailers?
https://youtu.be/pFAknD_9U7c?si=CH-Jwv6JE5BSegKh
>no barnacle area in the final game

>>720197636
Is it worth the rosario?

>>720197643
the 4 eyed nerd sells it, it lets you run backwards
it's called scuttle something

>>720197626
Yes but he comes back to spook you later if you skip him. It's buggy as shit though in that area >>720197034

>>720195705
I think they work like carefree melody, so 1/8 chance with a slight bump up per hit if they don't proc to a maximum of 1/2

>>720197690
Do you love Hornet?

>>720197614
Not my fault if you take a throwaway shitpost as a jab at you personally. Maybe stop being a shitter and abusing poison.

>>720196150
did they check the tools damage per hit and hit amount?

>>720197576
My current favorite track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hGiCZI6CWM

>>720197225
thanks

Anyone know where all the Shardillard enemies are? It's the last entry I need for my bestiary but I am missing one. Been all over, can't find it.

>>720197721
What are you talking about? Are you schizophrenic?

>>720197695
oh i never found a genuine use for that im gonna be honest

imagine smoking weed with the shaman in mosshome aha

>>720197689
Yeah it looks like Coral Tower was supposed to be a full area
Also I'm sad Hornet doesn't say ichi ni san when comboing the clawline anymore

>>720197695
what's the point of it when i can just turn around and dash?

>>720197730
kino i cant even be mad that im stuck on this one

>lace is absolutely piss easy in her first 2 encounters
>hardest most bullshit nigger tier boss in final fight
well her smug laugh finally actually fits

>>720196656
can you get to the wormways without the dash?

>unlock Green Prince
>but I already beat the boss he would have hepted with
he sounds like he's going to kill himself

Dancer down... Two more to go.

>>720197719
just enough to pay for her baths

>>720197798
Yeah if you pogo off the enemies just right

>>720197479
new strat successful: spam thread storm on them before they spam void shit on you

annoying fucks

>>720197806
...does he know?

>>720197806
hes a big boy he will come through

>>720197821
Don't forget green boy. It's optional but very fun.

>>720197753
Oh. You're retarded. Nevermind then.

What an asshole!

>>720197821
I wish the boss of this one was harder. It was basically impossible to get hit unless you're retarded.

>get into the citadel via sinner's road
>unlock the bellbeast in grand bellway
>leave because I want to enter the RIGHT way via the CLIMB
>beat the last judge
>finally enter the citadel
>the pilgrimage was worth it
>it's beautiful
>can't wait to explore it
>get cucked by the elevator immediately
Fucking aussies man they cant help themselves

>>720194345
>nerfing moorwing
Retards don't realize that if an optional boss is too difficult, just come back later after you get upgrades. Not everything needs to be easily beatable as soon as you encounter it.
I didn't bother too much with it until I got double jump and easily beat it the first try after that

>>720197901
>dying
did you find his body? he said missing for me

>>720197887
>spoiler
NTA already beat the other three, wheres this guy?

>>720197901
Oh you can tell him about his assistant being dead?

People have problem with lace 2? granted I did like everything act 2 has to offer but still she seems easy as fuck

>>720197901
He's not just an asshole, he's a fucking moron who clearly needs to study the impact of invasive species causing environmental destruction

>>720194345
Sounds like pretty good balance fixes, in my opinion.

>>720197284
>>nerfed Sister Splinter
>Bad.
Nah, I imagine they are going to nerf her contact damage. And that is very good, it fucking SUCKS to lose the fight because she falls on you during stagger, and deals two masks of damage.

>>720197798
nta, I vaguely remember getting there before getting the dash, but I could be mistaken

>>720197937
>>720197943
I found his assistant before I found him

>>720197956
its not 2 thats the problem

>>720197956
Lace 2 is a joke
Lace 3 on the other hand...

>>720197939
East of Greymoor.

>>720197893
You started talking about me feeling slighted by that, and something about abusing poison when I hadn't mentioned any of those things. I enjoy the challenge of the game so far, I just don't get the sentiment of beating other people down with it.

>>720197798
Yeah some anons were doing it day 1 via luring enemies and pogoing

why did they cut this area???

>>720197975
never found the assistant

i just got the walljump
has the game started yet

>>720197995
Thanks

>>720197850
>>720197964
damn now I regret not doing it this way, I love this kind of "sequence breaking"

>>720198024
maybe for a DLC

>>720197964
If you buy the key and pogo over the flies to reach the cages above bone bottom and get through the big mole faggot's room, yeah I guess

>>720197923
Neat the cutscene is different

>>720198024
They already met the stinky poo zone quota for one game.

>>720198024
Seems like it was shit

>>720198057
But they put TWO Blighttowns?!

>>720198068
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABA

>>720197961
no contact damage should ever be more than one and there is no valid argument otherwise

>>720198006
Ah, correction. You're autistic and take everything too literally.

Where the fuck does Shakra go after you finish her quest to find her master? Or does she just fuck off for good

>>720197436
thanks, so I assume whenever I get said aids I should just go and fight the final boss again to get that specific ending?

>>720198083
Spiky enemies should deal 2

>>720198091
Outside bell town

>>720197392
>>720197576
>came here to post about how good Choral Chambers is
>beaten to the punch twice
Fuck, what a song.

Is there any point in visiting the Mask Maker after you get the downy cloak?

>>720197935
cant wait till people get to the big fly but this time in lava

>>720198096
Yup, good luck, it's a challenge

>>720198096
Yeah. And by "final boss" we mean of Act 2, not Act 3.
Hey, has anyone tried to fight the final boss of Act 3 with AIDS?

>>720195501
>>720195408
I got caught somewhere in the choral chambers so there are a lot of places to trigger it

I played through acts 1 and 2 using Hunter exclusively for like 30 hours and only tried the other crests for a few minutes, but Wanderer is just plain better when you have double jump since you never need the diagonal dive for anything, and you still have the sprinting bound and diagonal dive attack.

>>720198087
shut the fuck up you are an insufferable monkey

>>720198091
You can summon her in Bellheart. I don't know if she does anything else though

>>720198130
Mask maker just spouts lore at you
More if you hit off his mask

>>720198091
She sets up her store in Bellhart. She sets up her fight in Greymoor.

>>720197392
>>720197576
>>720198126
It's the only song in the game so far that was memorable and actually stuck with me while not playing. I gotta say that the music on this has been a letdown so far, HK had so many bangers but the tracks here are all boring ambient stuff for the most part.

>>720198035
He was behind a destructive wall

>>720194250 (OP)
Welp. I was hoping to find some super secret before going to the citadel, but I ran out of options. I completed all of the wishes thus far. Opened every room I could find and reach. I found some place called the midst, but I'm not sure what to do there, since the area seems to repeat. I found a couple of music spots that don't have any effect. But rather show messages that suggests I'm there too soon.
There are a couple of spots that look like they need double jump.
There was a random event at the first town that was surprising.
I unfortunately spent one of the 2 simple keys I found unlocking the door for a prisoner, instead of opening the door down in deep docks. I bet the deep docks door lead somewhere more interesting. I don't even know where the prisoner went or what he's doing.

So yeah, if there is some major pre-citadel secret of skip, it's probably in the midst. But I'm stumped there. Time to make the climb.

>>720198130
He's one of three NPCs that can make you a gun later.

>>720197986
lace 2 is still harder than grandma

>>720198024
For Hollow knight part 3 of course. See you in 14 years.

Architect Crest's moveset is amazing but fully leaning into tool use just means that I'm rapidly running out of shell bundles and soon after a couple boss attempts it's going to end up being raw no cheesin normals only.

>>720198024
It may have been a case of it not being finished "in time"
That statement doesn't really mean much because there were obviously no deadlines for TC, but they may have made an internal decision to just get the game out after they finished the marjority of what they wanted. Areas that they weren't quite happy with may have been cut so they could keep working on them behind as post launch content. All the DLCs for HK were free, including the hive, which was a whole area. It wouldnt surprise me if they do a similar thing and just add more stuff over the next couple years, filling out whatever was missed from the trailers and whatnot

>>720198193
Isn't blue butterfly things parasite in the first game?

>>720198198
you cant progress on deep docks door on act 1

>>720198198
>I found some place called the midst
Dont be retarded like me and put it off till way later, you can clear it now if your observant

You didn't beat the game

>>720198164
Keep getting offended when people correctly assume you didn't beat the game.

>>720198198
Don't worry, as far as I can tell that door in the deep docks is fucking useless. The only new thing I got from it was a new tool.

>>720198116
Fair. Enemies who look obviously dangerous to touch should do two.

>>720197689
Man there's a lot of small differences in that
The Bellhart shopkeeper design, placements of wishing walls, some enemy placements, voices
The Ant Queens spine attack faster to hit the ground but is slower to come out
The ceiling spitter thing seems faster moving but with less spit

>>720198221
I already got a gun in Act 1.

just got to the cogwork core,, please tell me the game isnt almost over , im having so much fun i dont want it to end

>>720198198
For the Mist just experiment with every power you've found so far.

>>720198259
It's utterly, completely safe!

>>720198240
I one shot both so cant comment

>>720198284
>he doesn't know

rate my control binds
t. lifelong kbm user who only bought a controller for this kusoge

>go look for sheff in dank caverns in the midlands
is it in Graymoor? am I suppose to find this later?
don't tell me where it is, just tell me if I'm wasting my time looking for him
I got 2 songs in act 2.

>>720198240
oh my sweet summer child

>>720198309
>>720198271
hmmm... Fine. I'll head back to the midst and experiment. I bet it has something to do with music. That's the one thing I didn't try.

>>720198326
Bait/10

>>720198297
F

>>720198317
You actually get hit by Lace. Grandma is Radiance with arthritis.

>>720198325
I mean, of course I'm sure it becomes useful later, but the point is that on act 1 it's pointless unless you want to use it to skip directly to the Far Fields in a speedrun or something.

>>720198326
>only bought a controller for this kusoge
lol I usually play on controller and I'm using the keyboard for this game

>>720194250 (OP)
>Bilewater boss
Please tell me the fucker at least has low health. Else I'ma have to grab the anti maggot charm this shit is annoying

...Please let there be a bench before the boss fight.

>>720198083
I have an argument. If the boss is big and slow, then two contact damage is fine to stop player from simply sticking close and getting contact damage invulnerability frames, while hammering the boss with fast hits and healing away the hits they take.

>>720194345
Wow they actually listened to some of my gripes with the game. Total 180 compared to the last 8 years. I do think nerfing early game is caving to normies though which is not based

>>720198308
Your maybe 50% through the main content

>>720198259
I don't think it's said outright, but I'm not a lorefag.
I think the only reference is that lifeblood consumption is heretical or whater.

>>720198291
I'm fine with enemies like the scissors guy who deal 1 damage but have a special move that deals 2

>>720198181
For me so far it was
>Widow
>Last Judge
>Bellhart
>The one that plays during some enemy rush rooms, no idea what it's called
I hadn't felt too strongly about most of the songs in Act 1 but I imagine it gets really good later if Choral Chamber's anything to go off

>wanderer's crest pogo changing the game from hard to medium difficulty
>architect's crest changing combat from hard to easy

Think I've done everything but the last boss, there's no other boss achievements at least, still missing a bit, what Crest don't I have, I got Witch and Architect plus the basic ones you can't really miss

Be careful where you use Act 3's fast travel mechanic.

>>720198385
He has a phase 2

>>720198282
you are irrelevant, maggot

>>720198198
If you dont mind the minor spoiler the mist is the alternate entrance to the citadel, basically the backdoor if the boss from the end of the climb filters you
You can get through there by playing the needolin for the little lightmoths. They will lead you in the right direction
Dont worry about the deep docks place, there isn't that much there besides a new tool
Good luck on the final stage of the climb!

>>720198314
In the third game you will play as Lace and kill whatever the fuck this thing is

>>720198431
How the fuck do you keep your silk up when using architect's? Tools don't give silk and I don't see the point of doing that if you still need to keep hitting shit all the time to refill anyway.

>>720198472
You didn't beat the game.

>>720194345
>THIS many replies seething over a nerf to two already easy bosses
It's okay, guys. Your dick is still big for beating this game, you can still brag about it

>>720198459
Exact same bug happened to me and softlocked on a load screen

>>720198362
You have to be fucking kidding me, it's another one of those? I have to hold onto the broken gun longer to get a better one?

bros... can a shitter get a hint on where the pale oil location is for the second upgrade

>>720198419
yes special moves that do more damage are fine every single slash and flail doing it is not

>>720198385
Just accept the maggot water and engage in trench warfare, he literally can't hit you down there in the water

>>720198385
The gauntlet is harder than the boss, just play safe.

>>720198498
Its about the principle, if theyll nerf two bosses theyll nerf more, and Id like the game to stay fun for repeat playthroughs

>>720198178
can you still fight her after you moved on to act 3?

>>720198413
oh thank god, this game must be fucking gigantic then holy hell

I found First Sinner and I'm not sure if I'm really that well equipped to fight her, I'm able to get to the part of the battle where she's overlaying the needle attacks and trying to heal herself but usually end up getting killed mainly from that horizontal needle attack.

Is there any other weapon upgrades, I know the weaponsmith in Bellhart takes Pale Oil and I've given him one I found after Cogwork Core, are there any others to get, also one mask shard away from having 7 health which might help too, not sure where I should look though, I kinda regret having Faydown Cloak cause I'd rather deploy the parachute than double jump most of the time.

>>720198515
The first one is free
You can just pick it up
The second one is given by an npc for a fuck you difficult quest that involves finding 5 different items from across the game, one of which is a delicate flower refrence

>>720198485
you use architect for the epic drills, not for the tool slot
it does double damage when fully charged, or something close to that

>>720198459
They should make maggots jump up and get ready to attack you in some spots.
Have there be different sound cue, and give players time to react.

>>720197689
>proud enough of craggler to put him in the trailer
literally why

>>720198515
I can't remember the first one lol
You get one from the Food Quest
You get one from Act 3 all Fleas

>>720198459
This is going to be used in speedruns for something isn't it

>>720198473
>"If you don't mind minor spoilers"
>Gives major spoilers
Dummy

>>720195463
I died several times at Moorwing and I can say he's fine, patterns aren't that hard
Niggerfly is worse

>>720198336
is this for the gourmet quest? if so you will not find him on the main path and need to actually look for him

>>720198515
Assuming you're in act 2 and you've been to the Grand Bellway, it's that item in the room above the Grand Bellway with a switch door you're on the wrong side of. The sign outside of that is a bunch of pins, because it's a pinsmith's shop. I had to do a lot of progressing through the Citadel before I figured out the back way in there, I can be more specific if you want me to.

>>720198556
No one's reported it yet but god I hope so cause I did the same thing.

>>720198596
Anyone who cares about spoilers would have to be retarded browsing a 4channel thread before they beat the game anyways

>>720198568
I think you're capped at 8 health before act 3. Explore around a bit more. There are two other oils, but one is only in act 3 too.

>>720198580
You can come back and kill his children later.

>>720194250 (OP)
I found some volcano pit in far fields that had an add fight at the very bottom of it and I decided to just not go back there.

I hope I won't have to race this guy

Act 3 is unbelievably good. God fucking damn they cooked hard.

>>720198515
First upgrade is free
First oil is in the church area accessible from the library area
Second oil is the gourmet quest
Third oil is collecting all the fleas and doing the carnival games

Is there anything in the voltnest other than the boss and the voltridian outcrop?

>>720198681
this and so much else was incredibly kino

>>720198665
Is the thing with the food quest for Pale Oil, I've gotten the wine from Greymoor and the timer meat from Bellhart, not sure where the other three items are but I have an idea given their names, I'm assuming they're tied to other NPCs.

>>720197595
the fuck, i would have never guessed that.
i al;so gave up on the statue early because i saw some builders blocking the way

>>720198703
>voltnest
a what?

>>720197901
>yeah I want around injecting experimental liquids into local fauna
>here, you should stab yourself with it too, it's good for you bro
heh classic scientist

>>720198392
ok but remove contact damage when its stunned

>>720197767
>coral tower (full) was cut
Man, the sands of karak and its lore is my favorite part of this game and they replaced it with the least fun gauntlet in the game.

>bump limit
okay so now I can ask this
who is the best lore youtuber for Silksong?

>>720198681
>beast crest
bro...how?

>>720194674
You're joking right? Just hook her
>>720197395
She's slow lol

>>720198703
yes, duo savage beastflies. equip the dice for it

>>720198718
Some are from npcs
Some(one that I found by chance) are just pick ups from places

>>720198651
no more specifics needed, i assumed i enter it through the right of cogworks. i wanted it asap because this first upgrade isnt doing it

720198490
>>720198472

Oh, there's a shortcut. All is well.

>>720198748
Yeah, that'd be fair. Just have there be clear tell when boss is about to recover from stun.

>>720194932
Hit R3

>>720196654
Longnail + Wanderer is peak. Upgraded Hunter only has the damage boost when you don't get it but is otherwise inferior in every way.

>>720198550
Just be honest. You want to brag. Especially with how many people are getting filtered

>>720198664
That's besides the point. Anyone who says "minor spoilers", and then straight up tells you major information is retarded.

>>720198764
Die brownoid

>>720194345
Bilewater’s bench costing 90 and the bell costing 120 is egregious

>>720198803
Actually I need to correct that, it isn't the leverlocked room directly above Bellway, it's the one further above it. Being in cogworks is the right kind of progress even if it doesn't directly lead you there.

>>720198537
he bounced a spitball off the wall and hit me one time

>>720198514
ayep, it's in a way harder to access location too

>>720198856
I cant brag I died 12 times to s*v*ge b*astf*y I just dont want the game to be easier when Im replaying it

>>720198860
You are correct
I fucked up and should not have said as much as I did
I deleted the post and hope that anon didn't read it
I'm sorry for being such a fuck up bros

Out of curiosity what order (if you can remember) did you guys discover the areas in, for me it went;

Moss Grotto -> Marrow -> Deep Docks -> Hunter's March -> Far Fields -> Greymoor -> Bellhart -> Shellwood -> Wormways -> Blasted Steps -> Sinner's Road -> Grand Gate -> Underworks -> Choral Chambers -> The Slab -> Mount Fay -> Whiteward -> Bilewater -> Cogwork Core -> High Halls -> Whispering Vaults -> Memorium -> Putrified Ducts

Still gotta get to Verdania, Sands of Karak, Wisp Thicket, The Cradle & The Abyss

>>720198718
The guy that gave you the quest gives hints on where each ingredient is. One is really far out of the way though, if you want a hint go up from the Pinstress

>>720198568
this boss really demands you to get into its rhythm

>>720198764
846

>most irrelevant boss in the game is getting nerfed
interesting approach. perhaps it will keep the moaners happy and the tryhards satisfied

>>720198887
Just get the bell and come back later for the bench ezpz

>>720197689
>pic
Where the hell is this

>>720198997
Does sound like a cop out
I didn't think he was particularly easy, but he's the definition of side content. He drops something totally fucking useless, too

>>720198820
FIRST TRY!

>trapped Silk in the Void
>all she wants do to in her miserable state is save Lace, her daughter and magnum opus
Are we the baddies?

>>720198997
i thought she was fun ^_^
also whats that weird heart in the webm OДO

>>720198973
I feel like most of the time I'm fine with the rhythm, the two melee attacks are stupidly free and the five needle vertical and three needle diagonal attacks are borderline ignorable. It's just the cross needle attack and horizontal needle attack I feel I need to pay attention to more, also making sure to keep on her after each teleport for the hit, I think fighting Trobbio earlier helped a lot since that boss felt very rewarding for playing aggressively.

>>720194345
>Chapel of the Reaper getting fixed
Glad it wasn't just me who got locked in there kek.
>Moorwing
I don't really care what they do to him. He's optional and completely unfun to begin with.
>Sister Splinter
She's a learning curve, but I thought it was a well balanced fight. I died 2-3 times and then got a no hit clear once I remembered silkstorm.

2 hours into your shit. Didn't even feel like playing it, had many other games lined up, but decided to hop on the hype for once.
Idk what they did to it, but I'm hooked so far. And I didn't even enjoy Hollow Knight right away - had to deliberately give it a second try and play moar to appreciate it. And even after I've beaten it and did almost everything there was (except PoP and the last two Pantheons) still didn't become a huge fan or super excited for a sequel.
Maybe I just didn't get to the filter parts yet, or it matters that I'm on PC now and not on mobile, but Silksong looks and feels really nice. Glad I boughted and started now, otherwise it'd never get around to it.

I wonder if these kinda jumps are necessary for progression or I could find an upgrade first. These flying niggas seem to be there on purpose.

>>720194345
>Moorwing and Sister Splinter
wow the 2 worst bosses.
-Moorwing has 2000000000 HP and input reads to always fly just out of range.
-Sister splinter is particularly dogshit because she only has 1 attack so the lazy faggot devs threw in mooks and they're harder than she is.
they'll fly back just out of range then home into you, damaging for multiple.
and the worst part Sister splinter has a huge bouncing box that will damage you for 2HP CONTACT DAMAGE when she's stunned.

absolutely atrocious design.

anyway so all you loyalist retards who were saying the game is perfect and doesn't need any patches.
-are you going to condemn team cherry for this patch now?
-or are you going to contradiction yourselves?

>>720199048
It wasn't mandatory? I can't even remember where you fight it, only thing I can remember is it falling on me and killing me but that seems to happen to a lot of people, other than that I can't imagine anyone having trouble with it

>>720199138
how is it loyalist to call the devs retarded for caving to shitters

>>720199083
need sprint/dash unlocked and can be found in hunters march

>>720199129
If you think it feels nice now, just wait until you get some movement upgrades
The game feels amazing to play. It rivals the Ori games in terms of smoothness

>>720199138
>Sister splinter has a huge bouncing box that will damage you for 2HP CONTACT DAMAGE when she's stunned
That's the only real issue with the fight, but it's not like you should get hit by it twice.

>>720199129
leave the thread now and play this blind anons are really gonna skew your perception on whats a filter and whats not

>>720198958
As long as you learn, you're alright.
A lot of people spoil without realizing. I think everyone's done it at least once in their lives. It mostly comes from over eagerness to share. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It just sometimes causes us to share too much at the wrong time. You just have to be more cautious next time.

>thinks witch has the best moveset
>but has shittiest healing
I want to git gud, but also don't...

>>720199178
I ran into it totally by chance while I was already in act 2. You can completely ignore him by running past. I'm pretty sure he's totally optional

>>720199221
I ain't looking at those spoilers. I'm deep into Act 2 and never found this thing. Might as well commit to not using it at this point,

What are your guys go to for Blue Charms, I feel like it's the only group of charms where I actually care about what I've got equipped.

>>720199179
it's not as long as you stay consistent now and say the game is shit because they patched it.

>>720199138
The only thing I agree with here is that the way flying enemies waste your goddamn time by perfectly hovering outside of attack range is something that needs to be eased up on. I liked Sister Splinter, she was a simple boss that made for a good early game challenge, I didn't really have that much of an issue with her. The only "early" boss I got stuck smashing my head into was Savage Beastfly. Moorwing I fought a couple times but then ended up progressing the Flea Caravan and they prevented me from beating Moorwing for quite a ways into the game, so by the time I fought Moorwing I found it easier.

>>720199129
This game gets better the more you play.
Team Cherry nailed it with this one.

>>720199275
you can look at them safely then. i found it really early like 15 hours before act 1 finished

>>720197689
Think the coral area got repurposed into the sands of karak. Which is a shame the coral area in that trailer looked cool, and karak is aids.

>>720199291
i changed my steam review to negative ‽

>>720199275
It's from a merchant that is easy to miss, I didn't find it without someone pointing it out to me. There is a lot of shit in this game that is fucked up like that, I have found so many "oh so there's just a whole goddamn zone behind this cracked wall" Ash Lake moments at this point that it's stressing me out.

Just did the rasher quest. Honestly it isnt as bad as I thought it was going to be. Pretty fun actually. And there was maybe like 5 or 6 enemies to kill in a test run which made it a lot safer the rest is mostly empty corridors. Map for the interested

so how are you supposed to get up there?
on the left side there's some bridge that prevents you from going up
on the right side it seems impossible to climb

>>720199285
Fractured mask is solid (didn't beat the game) but I want to set up a proper bind build, meaning faster and better heals, for atleast one crest. I also like the poison alot. I feel like I don't have too many charms desu, I have like 7 of each and feel like I've been exploring everywhere. I guess I'm only halfway through the game?

>>720199308
>This game gets better the more you play.
>Posts the worst gauntlet in the game
Sick and twisted the way you're trying to make him keep playing

>>720199138
They need to make flying enemies easier to hit with simple jump attack, it will remove a lot of headache yet leave in a possibility to do a fancier moves on them to dispatch quicker.

>>720199386
Bridge is a future shortcut

game is great so far, i was pretty mad before, but i understand their vision now, double damage on contact is crazy though, other than that, its fantastic. these patch notes will help as well. currency in act 1 was sorta shit.

>>720199285
weavelight (+1 auto silk charge), gitgud mask (didnt beat the game edition), pollip pouch (tools cause poison), injector band (speeds up estus animation)

>>720199424
Part of what is frustrating is tools don't even help a lot of the time with fliers like that because you can't throw upwards.

so there's no reward from fighting Shakra?

>>720199463
The currency being lacking under the citadel is a thematic thing. They're all poor shitters down there

>>720199295
Holy shit does that override Moorwing?
he's supposed to be guarding the only entrance to Shellwood.
Surely they should patch that.
Wait a minute there's a flea in Shellwood and my game says the lost fleas quest is complete?
do you no need to find all the fleas to finish the quest?

>Wanderer gets 3 yellow slots
>Witch and Shaman get 0 (zero)

>>720199491
Yeah, the problem is they sit diagonal to you and you don't have a diagonal attack

>>720199491
Bro your boomerang?

>>720199540
Wanderer is the shitter crest for a reason

>>720198361
enlighten me on my folly oh great consolekiddie

>>720199343
well, based I guess.

>>720199596
>super fast attack speed
>same damage per hit as other weapons + can crit for 3x damage
u sure about that

>>720199596
Gr8 b8 m8

>>720199540
It's not like yellow slots are good

>>720199538
The flea quest is only for the first 5
Afterwards you can keep finding them (there are alot) but there's no "wish" for it. You do get rewards but they're like unoffical or whatever

>>720199596
>first reaper was the shitter crest
>now wanderer is the shitter crest
you guys are so tiring

How do you upgrade the other crests? Am I just retarded?

>>720198680
You have to race him
Not once, not twice, but thrice
Luckily it's not racing on the actual map but a mario kart course

>>720199308
>>720199224
Didn't get to play Ori, but good to know.
>>720199423
After some of the HK bosses on touchscreen I don't fear shit.
>>720199257
Good point, boss. Will do.

Wait a minute, where did you guys fight the moorwing? was it in the room to the right of the big windmill or the room to the left and down (just outside of bellhart)?

>>720199664
Silkspeed Anklets is arguably the best tool in the game. I don't want to drop the compass to slot it on Witch and Shaman.

>>720199538
I don't think you need to find all the fleas in certain areas, just -enough- fleas. I don't think it needs to be fixed, it is wonky (by the time Moorwing starting appearing again the Knightbug who offered help had moved on, and after killing Moorwing the fleas just reappeared and then I had the opportunity to have them progress out of the area) but it's an alternate form of progress which is always better than linearity. Does the Moorwing fight lock the door into Bellhart? I never tried running past him.
>>720199564
I didn't have it, I've missed a lot of hidden stuff until either finding it much later or seeing someone on here point me towards it. The boomerang does help a lot, but it being missable without a tool that's more along the path of progress filling the same goal hurts.

>>720199728
After radiant Markoth I don't think a boss can break me.

>>720199607
The only console I own is my yuzu emulator

>>720199719
I don't know the answer to this, but my current assumption is that they either need to be fully unlocked or that you can only upgrade hunter as it's the only one that didn't have a special thing for the bind before. Please do not spoil if I am wrong.

>>720199384
I wound up using a more fucked up path than that thinking it would be faster, but it was just a torrent of enemies. Wound up committing and doing it regardless, but holy fuck I shoulda just gone through the Blasted Steps.