Thread 720249175

When did you finally outgrow Nintendo?

I don't think I will ever buy a Switch 2 either, every game they've made since Breath of the Wild has followed the same formula and it's evident they don't have any talent left that knows how to actually make games with structure and interesting set pieces.

They don't make worthwhile games anymore, just "experiences."

>>720249175 (OP)
I outgrew them a long time ago. I have thought about getting a Switch 2 for nostalgia/return to youth but I just don't think I could commit to it.

Macaco thread

I am 34 and I outgrew PlayStation and Xbox. PC plus Nintendo until I'm dead and buried.

>>720249175 (OP)
Probably 2015. Finished the national dex in ORAS. I ended up buying SM but it wasn't the same. LoZ has been downhill starting with Windwaker, and I haven't been interested in a bing bing wahoo game since Galaxy 2.

>>720249175 (OP)
People have made fun of Nintendo fans for decade, but lately it feels like it's getting into Disney Adult territory. I wouldn't say I outgrew Nintendo but I'll sure distance myself from being the loyalist I once was.

>>720249175 (OP)
since the n64

>>720249175 (OP)
They can still make good games it's just that a lot of the time they feel unfinished.

All of their games feel like 50% of the game was cut or that the game itself needs another draft/passing.

Like if you were to combine botw/totk and the spin offs you could make a pretty good story.

>>720252206
>He played the pretendo 69

>>720249175 (OP)
I didn't outgrow them. They simply don't make the games I want anymore, or at least they don't make them to my standards. The Switch absolutely ruined my confidence in their hardware quality, as well.

>>720249175 (OP)
Anyone who still plays Nintendo games past the age of 13 should be put on a watchlist.

>>720249175 (OP)
They slowly started declining in the GCN era, but I stuck with them. I bailed when it became obvious they just wanted to start treating me like shit thinking I was too addicted to the mediocrity they've become to leave. I will never buy the Switch 2 and unless some magic happens where they go to PC and get their shit together, I'll never give them any money ever again.

>>720249175 (OP)
Realistically? Sometime during the Wii's lifespan. By the time I finally realized and accepted it? The Switch. I really haven't enjoyed 99% of what Nintendo has made the last 15 years.

>>720252739
Unironically agreed. The Splatoon pedos are proof enough.

>>720249175 (OP)
>outgrew nintendo
>proceeds to make thread whining about them.

You didn't outgrow them.

>>720249175 (OP)
i just stabbed gannon in the head on windwaker
ON MY SWITCH 2
this is after i replayed the new high quality totk
ill probably do botw next too since totk was such a huge upgrade
i also slamma'd bananananza and it was kino too
and replayed all the xenoblades
i really love how the switch 2 feels its great
i cant wait for more games soon too

i dont know man... before switch. i still got a switch and mainly played generations and rise on it. oh and smash bros. i got pokemon sword or whichever, and it was terrible. so maybe officially then

>>720252112
>getting into Disney Adult territory
If Nintendo fanboys aren't full-throated Disney Adults, I don't know what is. If anything they're even worse given Nintendo tries to target an even younger demographic.

>>720249175 (OP)
The last little part of me that still wanted to like Nintendo died somewhere between Tears of the Kingdom, when I realized Zelda games were never going to be good again, and the Switch 2 price reveal, when I realized that Nintendo had lost their minds and gone significantly further in their greed than even the likes of Microsoft, EA, 2K, or Ubisoft.

>>720253631
do you play computer games? or do you just keep replaying the 3-4 games you liked?

>>720249175 (OP)
After the Gamecube I stopped buying Nintendo consoles but I still played the Wii whenever possible at friend houses or after school activities in recreational centers

>>720253631
Have you considered playing Buy an Ad?

>>720253631
Marketing post

>>720253782
i play some stuff on steam when i feel like it but lately ive really been into my switch 2

>>720253631
based post

>>720249175 (OP)
Please stop being a glowing anti-Nintendo agent.
Also, if it weren't for Shigeru Miyamoto, this board wouldn't exist.

>>720253457
This was the same timeline for me. My final straw was seeing what a turd Pokemon SwSh was, Game Freak lying about increasing animation/model quality to offset the dex cut, and Nintendo still being happy to put their name on it and promote it as a flagship game for their release schedule. Not buying a single Nintendo product since Luigi's Mansion 3 has made nearly everything they've done since then stick out as being very obviously fucking terrible.

Shuntaro Furukawa is raping this fucking company.

>>720249175 (OP)
idk if I "outgrew", but I found a lot of the corpo shit baked into switch 1 unsavory as I played it
When I saw 2 being more of the same shit I didn't like, I decided that was it for me, at least for modern gaming

>>720249175 (OP)
What games do you play OP?

>>720254257
Nintendo not revealing any price info in the reveal showcase (unlike with the Switch 1) was an immediate red flag, and seeing them push $80 games destroyed any lingering chance of me being interested in a Switch 2.
>BUT MUH BUNDLE PRICE MADE THE GAME 50!!!
No. No it didn't. The bundle dropped the system's price, not the game's price. And there IS a meaningful distinction, because now they can tell their dipshit shareholders and investors that $80 games are an overwhelming success, and they can start pushing that model more often going forward.

>>720249175 (OP)
I've become even more of a Nintendo fan as I've gotten older and wiser. How do I not cheer for them? Koji Kondo, Hiroshi Yamauchi, Miyamoto, absolute visionaries who did everything the correct way. Honestly if you aren't in their corner you just admitted you like games less than me. And that's fine, I'm hard to keep up with.

>>720249175 (OP)
During the Wii era, played their SNES, N64, Game cube, GBC, GBA, DS but the Wii was genuinely full of shovelware
Bought a Switch and I have like 5 games for it

>>720254619
The console and its games haven't actually sold that well though. Essentially no one has even played Bananza.

>>720253764
Lately I have been thinking in my head "where do all these Nintendo Ips have left to go?"
It took 4 decades of Nintendo games to finally feel this way. Iwata actually knew what he was doing.

>>720255121
Apparently their only idea is "open world and/or sandbox" anymore. BotW's reception fucking mindraped them.

>>720255280
You got mindraped, yes

oh good the Nintendo discord found the thread

>>720255546
You'll survive.

>>720253864
Oh, is this the new boogeyman?

>>720256124
meant for >>720255546

>>720256164
Hey spaz, wait at least a minute if you're going to try this shit.

>>720256302
My counter trolling is always on time, thanks.

The people who never "outgrew" are Nintendo derangement syndrome faggots themselves. Projecting their bizarre insecurities onto everyone else.
But I'm glad they're the ones kicking rocks. Everything would be depressing soulsslop and movieslop if they were in charge.

>>720249175 (OP)
When people liked BotW and made it a huge success. Awful game. Zelda is dead, and Nintendo with it.

I enjoyed my Wii U more than my switch. The Switch 2 selling overpriced ports, charging for online, and denying the horrible joycon issues killed my love for the company.

>>720256658
aaaaand reset

>>720249175 (OP)
I outgrew the concept of "brands" when I was a teenager, that was over 20 years ago. You buy for the quality of games and quality of hardware. That said, consoles are 90% ass now, and the exclusives ass alongside them. No its not a money thing before engagement farming marketers and shills bait a reply that I'm not replying to. I can afford your shitty consoles 100x over, that's not the point. Nor will deflecting to online stores damage control for the criticism.

Console games and their fanbases in the modern day, are the epitome of forced casualization and homogenization of content for morons. Everything is dumbed down to appeal to the widest possible consumer base. Zelda, battlefield, Halo, the last of us, doesn't matter. It's all casual, storydriven, open world, dumbed down, simplified, "Streamlined", homogenized, and taken down to bare game design brass tacks so as not to upset the delicate fragile melting snowflake in 100 degree heat, sensibilities of the modern casual.

Fuck anyone that defends modern consoles or their manufacturers (Sony, M$ or Nintendo).

>>720249175 (OP)
Outgrown? Probably hasn't happened since I still love Zelda and Metroid. Mario has been hit or miss.
I've become exhausted of their endless bullshit, however. I wouldn't feel a thing if they collapsed as a company.
I haven't owned any of their consoles since the Wii, and that I gifted to my brother after like a month.
I like Zelda mostly because of the lore, and I have several notebooks where I drew a comic of OoT and Majora's Mask, as well as a continuation into TP, as art and comic practice. I might be autistic.

>>720256902
Ok PC vegan

>>720253752
>If Nintendo fanboys aren't full-throated Disney Adults, I don't know what is.
Even Disney Adults sometimes draw a line in the sand and let movies fail. Nintendo Adults gleefully slurped up $80 games and $90 controllers.

>>720256718
Why do you say "/v/" and not "the Brazilian anti-Nintendo poster"?

>>720257519
It's not really about the movies for Disney Adults though. They are infantilely obsessed with the theme parks and theme park exclusive merchandise. They will drop $20,000 just to be the first to go on a new ride or buy stuff at a new gift shop. Those people are the epitome of childfree 38 year old Reddit millennials that collect LEGO, Funko Pops, and cats. Most Nintendo cultists would actually lose in a corporate bootlicking competition against these people, as impossible as that may sound.

>>720257776
three keystrokes vs 80

switch has some decent games, emulated bowser's fury and had fun, but they are way too gimicky to keep buying consoles when at a flip of a dime they end up killing online servers and such

>>720258163
bro, this is a board for discussing video games and you're worried about a caricature strawman of some guy that exists in your head. Who isn't a real person. Get help. Do it in your psychiatrist, not here.

>>720257776
Because /v/ fucking hates it

>>720252739
This but video games in general.

If you think Nintendo were ever good at any point in history you're completely blinded by nostalgia and in denial about it. Go get therapy.

>>720249175 (OP)
I don't like modern Nintendo as much as the Nintendo of old, but as far as first-party developers go they are the best by a mile, and still produce some of the best games out there. Bananza isn't my ideal Nintendo platformer or my ideal 3D Donkey Kong game, but it's still great. Even Super Mario Wonder--though not a favorite of mine, personally--is still a well-crafted game with a lot of thought and a surprising amount of personality after NSMB/3D Land/3D World.

Their biggest issue is their embarrassing degree of pearl-clutching has, ironically, ruined their image.

>>720258163
>Most Nintendo cultists would actually lose in a corporate bootlicking competition against these people, as impossible as that may sound.
I do find that hard to believe. If anything at least Disney Adults are going outside and are apparently loaded. The fanaticism would be the same, tendies would just be poorer and even more socially inept.

>>720259137
It's hard to compete with old Nintendo and my nostalgia goggles, but as far as I'm concerned plenty of devs, even obscure indies, make way better games than modern Nintendo now. Even when there isn't a good alternative yet, like AC, modern Nintendo's version of it is so trash it's not worth bothering with anyway.

>>720259194
>I do find that hard to believe.
When the lines are lately starting to blur? Nintendo now getting into bland movies and their own overpriced themes parks.

>>720249175 (OP)
I outgrew nintendo. Then I outgrew PC and went back to nintendo.

>>720249175 (OP)
When they turned into full jew with the switch 2. I hope they get their HQ burned down with all of them inside.

In case you didn't know, Nintendo's main goal with any game ever since the 1970s has been to gain the approval of the Japanese government and their standards of child-safe. Anytime they put out something actually engaging, it's because it was unfinished and rushed to market, thus leaving bugs that could be exploited past the original intended design. When you feel like they declined with Iwata, it was all thanks to his efforts to reduce the amount of crunch at the company.

>>720249175 (OP)
I didn't outgrow nintendo, they just because a rancid dogshit company. aside from that, I don't like aonuma's game design in general.

NDS thread

>>720261109
Actually this is more of a Switch thread than DS.

>>720249175 (OP)
RIP

>>720260949
Basically this. Good games are good games. I still like their old games. I just don't think they make good games anymore, and it's even easier to leave them behind when they do nothing but act like total pieces of shit. They're a soulless scummy shell of the Nintendo I grew up with and unlike some, I recognize it's not the brands or appearances that matter, but the people behind it all and the people behind Nintendo now are nothing but suits who aren't even trying to hide how out of touch and shitty they are because they think everyone will just throw money at them anyway.

>>720261160
Unfortunate
DS > Switch

>>720249175 (OP)
I haven't.

I am extremely frugal, cheap, or whatever you want to call it and I cannot get on board with the prices Nintendo has been dealing out for their console and games. I also updated my PC recently which makes consoles look even more unappealing.

Switch was when I realized Nintendo is no longer for me. I bought one, played it for 2 months, and lost all desire to.

t. owned SNES thru Wii U

>>720259736
>concerned plenty of devs, even obscure indies, make way better games than modern Nintendo now
I can't think of any that do so with any consistency.

>>720262030
All Nintendo games are awful but the switch was like holy shit

>>720249175 (OP)
I outgrew Nintendo when the switch 2 released. I can't stand anti-consumer practices

>>720249175 (OP)
at the age of 14 when I felt shame after playing dance dance revolution bing bing wahoo edition

>>720249175 (OP)
when I was 4 and had a zelda game on my gameboy color and there was a bunch of shit to read

>>720249175 (OP)
I went through that phase when I got Wii U. However I skipped Switch and got a Switch 2 and we are so back.

>>720262430
Prepare to be disappointed again

I was so embarrassed when I turned 14 and played bing bing wahoo, now I'm 36 years old and play bing bing wahoo: snoy edition like a big boy!

>>720262482
So far so good. My launch line up was god tier; Mario Odyssey, Zelda TotK, Cyberpunk, followed by DK Bananza & Kirby Star Crossed Worlds. Yooka Replaylee is on the way, and so is Kirby Air Riders & Metroid Prime 4. So far this is best console with the best games in its first year of all time, objectively.

>>720262616
Ah so you're retarded. You might like it then.

>>720262719
so you have no valid reply, interesting

If you claim to have outgrown Nintendo but still praise their older games, you haven't outgrown them at all. Disliking the Switch and being a Nintendo Adult are not mutually exclusive.

>>720262913
You sound like the kind of pedantic fag who always interrupts someone to say "uhhhhh actually it's an SSD" if they say "hard drive".

>macaco thread
that's another+1 to Sony's karmic debt

>>720249175 (OP)
I "outgrew" Nintendo at 14, then I actually grew up and didn't give a fuck and just play games that are fun in my spare time.

>>720262913
>Nintendo Adult
I don't understand this meme. I understand it in the Disney World/Land obsessive context. In the context of video games though it's just retarded. They're all toys for children.

>>720249175 (OP)
With BotW on my WiiU. Borrowed a friend’s Switch when we played through Luigi’s Mansion 3 and Metroid Dread during our Friday night game sessions, but the WiiU was the last Nintendo console I bought and that was back in 2013. BotW was the most 5/10 open-world game I’ve ever played and if it didn’t have the Zelda skin on it no one would have given a shit about it. I feel like I’ve outgrown most vidya in general but when I do get the itch to play something it is never a Nintendo game. E.g. currently replaying old Need for Speeds

I didn't out grow them but I realized they weren't for me anymore during the Wii U era.

>>720263074
Struck a nerve, huh?

>>720263116
He is a glowing anti-Nimtendo agent.

>>720253457
Exactly the same for me. and I used to be a huge Nintendo fanboy

>>720262094
I don't need one dev to pump out a hundred great games, it's fine even if they just make one or two. There's so many devs and games now the quantity and variety is all there.

>>720263805
Okay but that wasn't my point.

>>720263205
This is a cope and you know it. That's like trying to say every movie is for all ages.

>>720262767
It makes anti-nintendo fags seethe really hard when they see people having fun with the switch 2

>>720263870
Okay, but it was my point.

>>720249175 (OP)
Twilight princess. I was 17. I assumed zelda would be a franchise i would love for all my time, like robbin williams, but i played gamecube TP and decided i was not only going to stop buying zelda but i would stop buying nintendo systems.
In retrospect i should have quit before 17 but i never thought of myself as a nintendo guy, i just got the system for zelda and smash bros.

>>720263956
fun is when buy thing

>>720249175 (OP)
Mostly into the switch 1.
I only bought it because I'm a smash autist, same as the last 2 Nintendo consoles.
I don't think they'll make a smash good enough for me to ever buy a console again so I'm riding off into the sunset with PC, which I've always primarily used anyway.
Also all of my IRL friends and I never talk anymore due to careers and my best friend catching the discord/VR chat cancer 24/7 when he's not at work.
Smash was never meant for online

>>720263956
Holy shit they're mentally ill

>>720263913
Not really because the most important aspect of games is their interactivity. There's nothing more "mature" about clicking on heads in Halo or doing combos in DMC. Yes, different kinds of art direction and narrative framing will appeal to different demographic slices, but as games there's no real difference between playing Legacy of Kain and The Legend of Zelda (other than the obvious fact that the former pales in comparison to the latter). You turbo-teens act like it's the difference between watching Goosebumps and Don't Look Now, but it isn't.

>>720264336
How do we know they aren't all bots deployed by glowing anti-Nintendo agents?

>>720263956
Having fun with no games?

>>720264483
That insult only works when it's true, like with PS3

The Brazilian anti-Nintendo guy will get very angry over the next 3D Mario.

they're mad because switch 2 can't be hacked
buy some games for once you're not kids anymore

and tendies want to deny coordination? fucking lmao

>>720264551
All consoles are shit

>>720265129
I disagree.

>>720263956
Nobody respect whales. Face reality.

>>720264431
You have to realize how flawed that argument is. Video games are broad dude and include even games recognized by law to be adult only. I get you want to justify still liking Mario as an adult man, but you don't need to, just have self-awareness and don't be irrational about it.

Never. I still get so excited when I think about potential upcoming first-party Nintendo games. Like a little fucking kid again. Gaming would be dead without them

>>720265220
Poorfag

>>720265584
welfarefag

>>720265736
I'm not a NEET

>>720265584
>he thinks a $450 tablet is a sign of wealth
it's genuinely embarrassing watching tendies trying to imitate snoys' "rich"fag peacocking

>>720258659
name 5 games /v/ doesn't hate

op is brown

>>720257519
Tell me about the WiiU.

>>720265912
poorfag

so what does /v/ actually like about the Switch 2 so much that they'll ferociously defend an ecosystem that just opened the door to $80 games and $100 accessories?

>>720265302
>just have self-awareness
I do, which is why I realize games are all toys. I'm not suggesting there aren't some games that have qualities adults will appreciate that children most likely will not, but the reality is that most games operate on a junior high level at best, and many of the best games are easily digested by 8 year olds. Because they're games.

When I got my switch 2 and played mkw and then bananza.
Guess one can indeed grow out of Nintendo games.

>>720266178
First party games that are bound to come and we know they’ll be good.

>>720266371
>and we know they’ll be good
that's what I thought about the WiiU

>>720266178
/v/ generally doesn't seem to like it. Some loud bootlickers seemingly just enjoy gargling Nintendo's semen no matter what.

>>720266178
it has more games than the PS5 already

>>720266178
They don't even play the games they just buy Nintendo slop and forget it exists in a month

>>720266558
because they learned to frame literally everything Nintendo does as being "versus the snoys", which has been the motivating factor for their consumption and posting for nearly a decade now

Never outgrew them because even as a kid those games seemed childish so i never bothered playing those shitty slops made for boys of soj

>>720253631
Based

>>720266365
bananza was alright and I did enjoy some of the mini throwback levels
it wasnt as good as the last mario game though

>>720266648
Sounds like PC players buying 4090's to play Minecraft or Roblox

>>720266371
>and we know they’ll be good.
Do we?

>>720252112
This was always the case retard

>>720266178
At this point all they actually seem to like or care about are sales.

>>720266741
Yes, we do.

>>720266648
>Nintendo slop
So, games?

>>720266558
Other way around

>>720266741
I know the concept of a company releasing consistent good games seems alien to your kind, but goddamn does it feel good to be a Nintendo fan knowing good shit will come out

>>720249175 (OP)
I grew into Nintendo. Never really played their consoles as a kid, mostly had their handhelds for Pokemon, PS2, 360, and a Wii that collected dust. I play GameCube and 64 games all the time that I missed. Probably won't buy a Switch 2 anytime soon though.

>>720266921
>I know the concept of a company releasing consistent good games seems alien to your kind
Don't worry, it's alien to Nintendo too! DOHOHOHOHO

>>720249175 (OP)
When they started patent trolling to protect profits instead of competing by making better, more entertaining games. The enshittification has taken root and I can't justify supporting this company any more, they are in my pirate only bin.

>>720253631
following up, I started botw and it looks phenomenal too
I beelined for the zora domain and just finished beating the elephant dungeon
ill probably head to the desert next and do the camel then some side quests before heading to death mountain
it really is amazing bros and im having a lot of fun right now
switch 2 is pure sex

I was never a fanboy because I'm not a faggot, but much like yourself I "outgrew" them in my edgy teenage years. As an adult, I'm secure enough to be willing to enjoy the good games they put out and ignore the bullshit. I did grow out of Pokémon though, that shit is for women, kids, and other people that don't have to pay their own bills.

>>720249175 (OP)
I think you are a SEAMonkey gachafag for posting this dumb thread no one wants to read

>>720267039
Nintendo doesn't develop the Pokémon games, they just publish them.

>>720266921
And you buying in thinking that is precisely why pokemon, ac, etc are dogshit now and they can just feed you asset flips like totk and splatoon. You haven't the faintest clue why people actually hate your kind.

>>720267138
They also co-own the franchise and are the ones filing the retroactive patents. You don't get to wash their hands of responsibility.

>>720266797
MKW was an insult and Bananza was disgusting

Skyward Sword

>>720267198
Pokemon has never been a good RPG
Majora Mask is a massive asset flip but you guys eat it up too(even through OoT is superior)
You were never Splatoon target audience

>>720267138
So anyone else can fund and publish pokemon on other platforms if they want to?

>>720267409
Yep. This was the moment. It also felt super dated considering it came out the same year as Skyrim and Dark Soul.

>>720267381
Why do you think Bananza is disgusting?

>>720267453
Majora's Mask didn't take 6 fucking years or reuse the same world as OoT.

>>720266714
the throwback stuff was the best part lol. says a lot about the game

I’m more of a Sonic guy myself

>>720249175 (OP)
>outgrow Nintendo
I actually outgrew the Xbox and Playstation. Now I only play on PC and Nintendo machines.

>>720267525
did you find dk's treehouse?
there should have been more in there

>>720267453
>Pokemon has never been a good RPG
That's a cope, it used to be good.
>Majora Mask is a massive asset flip
Yeah and it was also made in under axyear and was a very different game from oot. It didn't just remove old turds and sprinklenew ones over the same world.
>You were never Splatoon target audience
I played the hell out of the first one. 3 has no reason to exist, just a shameless triple dip.

>>720267198
>You haven't the faintest clue why people actually hate your kind
I don't care what anti-nintendo niggas have to say about me. I get to enjoy playing games while they spend everyday seething about nintendo and being in denial about the switch 2's success

Also I bought the Switch 2 early after seeing that the only easily hacked Switch models were all early versions.

>>720267918
Exactly, thank you for proving my point.
Nobody hates modern nintendo more than old nintendo fans. The ones who hate you lot most aren't snoys, it's former tendies and nintendo themselves, just for entirely different reasons.

>>720267524
>>720267773

>wahhh wahh making textures at 480i only took like 2 months at most? I don't care


Also Pokemon has never been good, it was not even the best monster collecting game of the 90's, it has always been a bad RPG game with poor balancing, carry by the Anime and your nostalgia

>>720268215
>The ones who hate you lot most aren't snoys, it's former tendies and nintendo themselves
"Former tendies" are an absolutely obtuse way to define "faggots who liked 2-3 GameCube games when they were kids and then turned to PS/PC when they grew up.

Snoys falseflag as "former tendies" all the time so you get an even more diluted "group".

That last statement doesn't even make sense.

>>720267918
>I get to enjoy playing games
Sure as hell doesn't look like it

>>720268215
>Nobody hates modern nintendo more than old nintendo fans.
And vice versa. The way modern tendies throw pre-Switch games under the bus for utilitarian consolewarring faggotry is some high-grade brand loyalty autism.
>>720268460
>NUH UH YOU JUST SNOY
get a fucking grip

>>720249175 (OP)
>When did you finally outgrow Nintendo?
20yrs ago

>>720268460
Game Cube tards are the worse because they usually come bundle with Smeelee fans, the almost 40 year old losers that never shower

This is a topic I think about occasionally given I thought I was obsessed with them as a kid.
>>720253457
This here is my experience as well. It's funny looking in retrospect, I really liked the weird vibes of pre-GCN Mario and love the 64 Zeldas, and liked most of their SNES library as well. However, despite growing up with the hardware, a huge majority of all my favorite games were mostly 3rd party shit. SEGA, Capcom, by the time the Wii rolled around I really didn't care much for their own games and I never really realized it until I started getting into homebrew/emulation.

It's probably the Sonic-fag that cultivated in me but everything they did, it felt like others just did better. Or at least with much more personality/aesthetic/etc. I loved sotn much more than I did Super Metroid just off vibes alone, most Mario RPGs just felt bland compared to the schizo shit I got into with Sting RPGs, and Mario just felt bland. Example, I just can't stop replaying Treasure games yet I haven't touched a Mario game in years.

Like others have said, it doesn't help that afterwards their output has just been too dumbed down. I felt this way about pretty much everything AAA at the time the Wii U dropped and I stopped buying consoles at all. I had a lot of high hopes for Splatoon, but they never went far with the concept despite being excited for a new IP.
I think that's really what killed it for me was that and just the huge flandarization of the Wii era. It colored a lot of my experiences to things before and even now I feel like in terms of game complexity, they have yet to surpass their first or second tries in terms of 3D games (N64/GCN) and nothing past SNES has been surpassed beyond other companies doing things for them.
I'm just not the crowd anymore and I personally accepted that. Though I still appreciate their impact on the industry and my past with them, and I still do like some games they made, but they really aren't in my view anymore.

>>720267198
>You haven't the faintest clue why people actually hate your kind.
And I never will because it doesn't bother me. Please keep hating me, for any reason you want.

>>720268537
>get a fucking grip
You first faggot, show evidence of "former Tendies" hating modern Nintendo fans, nevermind that it's not intelligent to turn on "the people that enjoy the games" rather than "the company that makes the games" for any sort of movement.

Unless, of course, the purpose is to create a division, which benefits no one but fanboys from other companies.

>The way modern tendies throw pre-Switch games under the bus for utilitarian consolewarring faggotry
And now you play the victim, classic manipulative tactic, grifter.

You guys are just mad cause you can't play DK Bananza and MK world, and the switch 2 hacking scene has basically lost all hope. That's why the Nintendo seething has become so loud in the last few months.

>>720268764
It's basically that, plus some of the faggots posting here most legitimately be hired, this level of consistency and appeal to false narratives is not normal.

>>720267984
Lmao you retard that won't happen again

>>720268695
Ok.

>>720268764
I'm not a Virgin or child

>>720268846
Good boy.

>>720268764
They literally look like whit anon and everyone already knows how nintendo insulted their audience with world

>>720268720
>show evidence of "former Tendies" hating modern Nintendo fans
Sure. I'm here. Next.
>nevermind that it's not intelligent to turn on "the people that enjoy the games" rather than "the company that makes the games" for any sort of movement.
Yes it is, because you know there's problems with the games and/or their business practices but you won't have any of it. Nintendo gets worse because you people let them get worse.
>Unless, of course, the purpose is to create a division, which benefits no one but fanboys from other companies.
You don't get to dismiss reasonable premises like "people who criticize the Switch/2 might be fans of older Nintendo systems" and then casually make claims of a grand conspiracy by Sony (oh fuck you that's absolutely who you're implying) to orchestrate mindgame tactics against Nintendo on 4chan.
>And now you play the victim, classic manipulative tactic, grifter.
Don't use words that you just heard without knowing what they actually mean. They make you look like the retard that you are.

>>720268764
>the switch 2 hacking scene has basically lost all hope
If it's man-made, there's no such thing as perfect security.

>>720268867
Cute, basing your sex appeal and maturity level based on what type of pixels on the screen you watch.

How do you function as an adult with such an embarassing insecure mentality?

>>720249175 (OP)
If you play modern gaming slop but try to pretend Nintendo is the source of all of it, you're part of the problem. Gaming died when the 360 and PS3 released.

>>720269040
That's not what the OP said, though?

>>720268929
Ok PC vegan

>>720268720
NTA but I turn on you because you're all obnoxious dumbasses smugly licking the bottom of the barrel and gloating about it, championing the rotting corpse of something that used to merit the praise they got.

Switch 2 and MKW were the last straw for me. $80 as a price sucked, but I figured since it was Mario Kart I'd get my mileage out of it...nope. Boring courses which blend together and nintendo cracking down on people playing their preferred way only 2 weeks in. What a slap in the face after a decade of waiting

>>720249175 (OP)
Why should I outgrow something that I love?

>>720268215
I've been a nintendo fan since the SNES days and I can say the switch is one of the best things to happen to nintendo. I'm sorry for not letting the internet tell me what to think
>former tendies
Yeah sure, I should totally care what these "former tendies" think. The same niggas that fell for "desperate nintendo is the best nintendo" meme when the desperate era was full of droughts

>>720268662
I would take you more seriously, but you are a Sonic fan sadly, there no IP that has release more mediocre games generation after generation for such a long time is hard to respect the opinion of that fan base, even now with Crosswords is just disappointment after disappointment.

>>720249175 (OP)
Nearly 20 years ago.

>>720268929
>Sure. I'm here. Next.
Yeah. That's not proof.

>Yes it is, because you know there's problems with the games and/or their business practices but you won't have any of it.
No you imbecile, you DON'T turn on people if you expect change, you ultimately alienate the people that could join your cause die to acting hostile towards them, it doesn't matter how "noble" you think your cause is, it will always into a case of "this guy is an asshole and I want to go against him", basic human psychology.

>Nintendo gets worse because you people let them get worse.
Then vote with your wallet, but don't turn it into an "us vs. them" bullshit war, moron.

>reasonable premises like "people who criticize the Switch/2 might be fans of older Nintendo systems"
I do when I have seen ZERO evidence of this being the case other than your blathering, insincere rants, show me facts.

Besides, as has been discussed before, the mere concept of a "Nintendo fan" is superfluous, because it applies to a collective of people that like certain games and game series, who all just so happens to either be heavily features, or be exclusive in Nintendo hardware, there isn't that many people that are fans of "Nintendo hardware", unlike what has been observed with Sony and PC fans.

>(oh fuck you that's absolutely who you're implying)
Then continue living with your persecution complex, I won't change that, but going by your attitude, you absolutely deserve it.

I am also going to go ahead and assume you were also the faggot that sperged upon being called "Eric" in the sued pirate thread.

>Don't use words that you just heard without knowing what they actually mean.
Playing the victim is a known manipulation tactic, which evidently, is a card you tried to pull by pretending to take a "losing" side on an imaginary war between "tendies".

>They make you look like the retard that you are.
And thus, any simpathy I could have toward you has been reduced to zero, unfathomable fucking moron.

>>720269186
>NTA
Suuuuure

I love Nintendo because I know they will make video games till the end. I use to feel the same about Valve, I miss golden age Valve so much, they were the American Nintendo to me back in 2004-2012, but greed destroyed that company soul, and now all they got is a fat man that does not even develop video games memes and a store.

>>720269572
Yeah, sadly Nintendo is the only company left that still carries gaming philosophies from the eras I loved

>>720249175 (OP)
what formula?

I'm having a lot of fun with my Switch 2 right now, I'm actually really surprised at his fast everything is, recently finished the Kirby DLC and now I'm playing through Cronos, game runs surprisingly decently.

What would it take for you guys to come back to Nintendo?

>>720249175 (OP)
>I don't think I will ever buy a Switch 2 either, every game they've made since Breath of the Wild has followed the same formula and it's evident they don't have any talent left that knows how to actually make games with structure and interesting set pieces.
I actually agree with this full stop. Well said.

>>720269264
You're in a drought right now.

I had a n64 and GCN but never played many first-party games. When I think of playing Gamecube as a young boy I think of Tales of Symphonia and Baten Kaitos immediately. Thanks for the JRPG machine, Miyamoto.

>>720269790
de-aging pauline.

>>720269891
Thanks for showing what an old Nintendo fan actually looks like, fond memories of the past, zero need for vitriol for the present.

I respect you, N64 and GCNchad

>>720269395
>Yeah. That's not proof.
What proof do you want, asshole?
>No you imbecile, you DON'T turn on people if you expect change
Why not? Nintendo has basically said they don't listen to their customers anymore.
>but don't turn it into an "us vs. them" bullshit war, moron.
Then stop giving into shit you know is wrong and subpar, asshole.
>I do when I have seen ZERO evidence of this being the case other than your blathering, insincere rants, show me facts.
Again, what fucking evidence are you expecting? Videos of me from the 90s playing SNES and N64, addressing you by your post number?
>Then continue living with your persecution complex
Says Mr. "Sony is out to get us on 4chan!!!!".
>blablabla Ericericeric
Any thus, any sympathy (THAT'S how you spell it, dipshit!) I could've had toward you as arguing in good faith is gone. Go fuck yourself.
>>720269195
MKW is emblematic of a lot that's going wrong with Nintendo, more than you'd think.
>shows that they're out of ideas for "innovation" because they just copied BotW's pivot to open world (even the open world is laid out almost the same as BotW's), and they have no idea how to marry their game design concepts smoothly anymore
>shows you that they think quantity is king, not quality
>shows you just how little they think is worth charging $80 for
>shows you that they will force a gimmick down your throat again, just like the Wii and WiiU eras

>>720269780
I'm waiting for the next 3D Mario to be announced before I get my Switch 2.
I got my Switch 1 so I could play Odyssey.
I only had 4 other physical games with my physical copy of Odyssey, and I enjoyed playing my digital games such as Lego Worlds and Sausage Sports Club.

>>720269948
That anon is basically me, just replace Baten Kaitos with RE4 and I started with the original Gameboy.
Fuck modern Nintendo. They deserve the vitriol and will not get better without a backhanding.

>>720269803
The next 3D Mario might be announced this week.

>>720249175 (OP)
I don't play nintendo games nearly as much as I used to but I did borrow my friend's switch 2 to play Donkey Kong. It was alright, I prefer the 2D games. otherwise I only really play nintendo local multiplayer games like casual smash ultimate or mario kart

>>720270167
I had a GBC too. Never cared much for stuff like Mario 64 or OoT, played enough at the store kiosks to somehow not develop an interest.
And yes they are cartoonishly anti-consumer. Very out of touch.

>>720269264
If you remove all the ports and remasters from the switch it would have had massive droughts too. It benefited massively from wiiu games

>>720269345
Nah, I agree with you. My love for Sonic died in the same era as Nintendo (Essentially everything after Black Knight with the exception of Generations and especially SASRT). I only brought it up because it what snowballed me into trying out more SEGA shit which lead me to other devs like Treasure, Capcom, etc. Got me to play more arcade games, racing games, which got me into shmups, then kusoge, shitty jrpgs, etc.
I'm not gonna say you're wrong for assuming I have shit taste in games, but it's because I get a lot of enjoyment from random doujin/indie garbage, or weird obscure Japanese trash. I love it to death and I feel like it's because of the Sonic-faggotry that I can tolerate this shit because it comes off as very passionate and with intent. I find myself in the retro-sphere because of this, and the only time I branch out is with indies. Anything else just feels way too "average" for me. I feel like I dislike mundane/average things more than I dislike "bad" things since they're boring more than anything.
I guess that doesn't really make me a fan of anything, but I do like to give Sonic the credit for making me want to branch out in the first place.

if you dont like nintendo you just doesnt like video games

>>720252112
>Disney Adult
I swear to God every once in a while the internet has to make up a group to hate
It's the ş0ƴɓọƴş all over again
The internet turned into a mix of a asylum and middle school and the qorse part is that everyone has to deal with those insecure schizos

>>720269985
>What proof do you want
Show your collection, your playtime, anything, and don't be obtuse about it, we can discuss modern AND classic games, I am a fan of both eras, which is why I believe I can try to understand where you're coming from.

>asshole?
But enough about you.

>Why not? Nintendo has basically said they don't listen to their customers anymore.
And...? What does that have to do with attacking the customers? Do you think this makes you look smart?

>Then stop giving into shit you know is wrong and subpar, asshole.
Then your core issue is your inability to perceive why someone would not find their modern offerings "wrong and subpar", asshole.

>Videos of me
Are you literally so arrogant and self-agrandazing that you legimitaley thing you're the only person that matters in the world? Evidence lies on you to prove there are more people as deranged as you with hating "modern Nintendo" whole also actually knowing what they're talking about.

>Says Mr. "Sony is out to get us on 4chan!!!!".
Putting words in my mouth? Now that's some schizo way of thinking, but yeah, you're definitely not doing yourself a favor at making anyone believe you actually ever liked Nintendo at some point.

>Any thus, any sympathy (THAT'S how you spell it, dipshit!)
Lmao, minor spelling mistake is the only think you can pull unironically, what a sad...

Asshole.

>>720270320
This.

>>720249175 (OP)
In the sense of no longer being a tendie, I'd say the Wii U. So many game droughts leaving me starving, and my enthusiasm for the brand started to wane. This was when I officially became an idiot, and I only passively play Nintendo games now. Doesn't help that my favorite Nintendo series have had either a long hiatus or completely changed their identities too.

Gamecube era. i had a Gamecube and enjoyed it, but even then i was moving away from Nintendo. i didn't care about any first party stuff on it, i was only asking my parents for PS2 and PC games back then aside from stuff like The Twin Snakes and Crystal Chronicles
the last Nintendo product i had was the Wii my parents bought. the main thing i played on it was GH3 and No More Heroes while i spent 98% of my vidya time on PC and 360
i just realized i've never given Nintendo a dime of my own money. i bought a used 3DS this year and use it for Atlus games
i've also tried getting into Zelda like a dozen times over the years, never make it past a few hours. last one i tried was Twilight Princess

>>720270167
>They deserve the vitriol and will not get better without a backhanding.
>>720270249
>And yes they are cartoonishly anti-consumer. Very out of touch.
You are not convincing anyone, be more original with your falseflag.

>>720270449
actually i should've said N64. i played the N64 essentials but even then i spent 90% of my time on PS1
thinking about it more, buying FF7 and FF8 on the same day in 1999 when i was 6 is what pushed me away from Nintendo

snoy sisters.... when are we gonna get some games...

>>720270552
Play real games with the Nintendo Switch 2 or go find some on Steam, or play Astro Bot.

>>720270257
WiiU didn't have games. Try a different narrative.

>>720249175 (OP)
After the Wii U.

I already hated a lot of the stuff on the Wii for being literal baby tier slop and/or shovelware but after Nintendo VERY OBVIOUSLY gutted the Wii U screen functionality out of BOTW I was done with them forever.
I bought and kept that POS console for what? Super Mario 3D World? I liked that game a lot but it wasn't a system mover.
The ONE thing they could have given Wii U victims, a much more fun live inventory system that was probably planned anyway where the game doesn't pause and they couldn't be fucking bothered.

Everything they've done with the Switch and Switch 2 has made me pleased with my decision to leave them be, I have no idea who even buys their consoles anymore. I was always a PC gamer anyway.

>>720270320
Obviously. This thread is made by snoycord all larping as cubesnoys and 64snoys

>>720270249
Based Symphoniabro

>>720270375
>made up
They have gangs of fat retarded adults living at Disney parks and you can google cringe disney adults to find evidence dude this shit is not normal.

>>720270648
At last, a Wii U owner that actually agrees that gen was absolute shit and doesn't suck off Iwata.

>>720270674
Yeah they aren't very subtle. One of them is ACfag who is in permanent hiding now.

>>720266745
Nope. Nintendo made a conscious and visible reach out to them around the Switch1 launch. also that "Switch1 Birthday" that use to get spammed on /v/. And the nu Nintendo YT channels that are all hard to tell apart and are all a certain way now.

>>720270449
getting into zelda as an adult is absurd anyway. Its a kids series and basically an intro to dungeon type games. The last zelda game i ever played was wind waker. I enjoyed it when it came out but iv never had a desire to revisit zelda games.

>>720270782
AKA: A real Wii U owner, not the falseflagging snoy

>>720270320
I do like Nintendo.
I don't like this EA-tier abomination wearing their skin.

>>720270842
i tried as a kid, as a teenager, and as an adult. it just never appealed to me. maybe because i tried got into FF first and turned to a jrpgchad

>>720270768
Playing it around 13 sure was something. I beat the final portion of the game for the first time at my grandparent's on one of those old TVs with big-ass dial knobs.

>>720270782
I can understand people trying to cope after owning a console as bad and under-supported as the Wii U but I just can't, it was terrible and I'm glad that modern Nintendo has lost all appeal to me.
For what its worth, I actually loved BOTW (I pirated it and modded my Wii U out of spite) but everything about the whole gen sucked dick, every game that was good on a nintendo console was literally being held back because it was on one. They were good in spite of being on Wii/Wii U certainly not because.

>>720270637
Well there goes the switch top seller

>>720269803
Oh no, nintendo is not releasing games each week. This is the wii u situation all over again

>>720270674
Can I advocate people play more PC Engine or DOS games instead?

>>720270782
>>720270858
I feel like people should appreciate Iwata for what he did for the games he helped develop, but being the head of Nintendo he really accomplished a bunch of nothing besides continuing the downward trend of casualization. Although, the consoles he was a part of had maximum SOUL, I really wish they had good games to go along with it.

>>720270969
Honestly, advocating for PC Engine and DOS is probably the most soulful take ITT. At least those platforms had some raw, innovative energy before everything got corporatized into oblivion. Iwata had his charm and was one of the few suits that gave a shit about game design, but you’re right-he mostly rode the Wii’s lightning and coasted on feel-good PR while the library died on the vine. SOUL consoles with no staying power. Whole gen felt like watching the magic slip through their fingers.

>>720270942
While I disagree with you on the Switch/Switch 2, I absolutely agree that gen was a nightmare for anyone that still dared to call themselves a "Nintendo fan".

I also fucking hated how every single would-be great release for the Wii U was eaten by the goddamn 3DS.

>>720270404
>Show your collection, your playtime, anything
Here you go, faggot, on a silver fucking platter and everything. Eat up.

>>720271172
Great, you did it, now actually show valid arguments for how could you have possibly survived this generation of shit: >>720270942
>>720270969
>>720271092

And somehow, "magically" become immersed in derangement, vitriol, and absolute disrespect, not just at Nintendo, but at the fans as well.

No, having old consoles doesn't make any of your points stronger, you WILL need to elaborate.

>>720270954
Every consoles tops seller is a port of the prior gen. What else you got?

>>720270921
I know what you mean, I was 14. Beat it like 4 times with my brother and didn't realize it had sidequests for costumes and an affection system until the third playthrough. Those were good days.

>>720271456
Is Mario Kart World a port?

>>720252112
It's natural to lump Nintendo and Disney together when discussing fanboyism and corporate bootlicking. No other companies come close to having the same generational lineage and continuity, They can suck corpo dick from daycare all the way to adult jew daycare. An attack on the company becomes an attack on them personally.

>>720252112
Nintendo adults

>>720271059
Yea that's a more succinct way of saying it. Like even beyond game design, I appreciate how he helped certain games even exist ala Pokemon or even Mother. Mother is one of the only Nintendo series I care about deeply, so I feel like regardless of anything I appreciate the man for that. While I do think he and most other companies/presidents/etc of the modern era do wrong, I personally understand their stances on why they go that direction. If that's what profits the most, they just do what the customers want right? Companies are amoral, and I think some anon mentioned earlier that it's the customers that enable businesses to develop in this direction. It's why I
>>720270260
mention here that I mostly stick to indies or retro gaming for that reason. There's more media that exists today that can last a lifetime, and I have a ton of games I missed out on growing up in the west playing Nintendo. And that well won't dry anytime soon, so I have no real reason to pursue anything modern anymore as even all the retro games I play for the first time have a distinct desire to be something that I feel just isn't around AAA anymore.

>>720271306
The Wii and WiiU eras were easily survivable thanks to the DS and 3DS. Guess what? The Switch 2 doesn't have an alternative release valve.
>And somehow, "magically" become immersed in derangement
derangement is when criticizing the switch 2
>vitriol
Because it's impossible to get good faith arguments out of you people.
>and absolute disrespect
What fucking respect have Switch fans shown here? Spam nuking Zelda discussion threads that don't go their way with constant fantasies about Eric being a tranny and getting raped? Spamming sales threads multiple times every Thursday-Saturday? Screaming that anyone who goes against the grain even the slightest bit must be one of a growing list of boogeymen?
>not just at Nintendo
Why in the Virgin Mary dryhumping a pillow does Nintendo deserve respect? They're a corporation, not a person.
>but at the fans as well.
Because fans have shown that they're in it for spite. Ever since they purposely bought up multiple copies of Pokemon SwSh just to spite critics.
>No, having old consoles doesn't make any of your points stronger
Yes it does, because you said it's impossible for me to have been a fan of older Nintendo systems while criticizing them now. Also, WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT OF YOU ASKING THEN?

>>720249175 (OP)
About five minutes into Twilight Princess when I saw the characters were all dogshit ugly freaks and I didn't want that shit in my sight.

>>720252112
I made this realization awhile ago and it's a big reason I started to distance myself from Nintendo. They're at the late phase part of a company where they can't make anything good anymore so they just find other ways to tickle nostalgia (amusement parks, movies, expensive merch) to let people keep those times with them forever.

>loyalist I once was.
no one types like this

>>720271468
It was one of the first games I quickly began a new playthrough after and tried to go out of my way to do extra stuff to some degree. Funny thing is I've also played like 4 times total but I've only ever beaten it the first -- I tend to pewter out around Flanoir for some reason.
And hoo boy. Sheena. Hoo MAMA what a gorgeous woman.
>that image
Heh. I never fucked with the sequel. Felt too yucky.

>>720271306
Not him but Marathoning Xenoblade 1-3 might be my defining games for Switch1. If those games weren't there, my opinion on witch might be massively different.

>>720270969
That's exactly how I feel about Iwata. Seemed like a respectable guy who actually cared about the hobby and had soul, but was too focused on expanding the hobby to the wrong people.
The ones we've got now are so much worse though, literally just money sponging soulless suits.

I will be getting Bubsy 3D for my Switch 2.

>>720271481
An enhanced port, yes

>>720271887
That is incorrect.
Why would you say that?

>>720271635
>The Switch 2 doesn't have an alternative release valve.
Doesn't need one

>>720272002
I said that because MK8D is an enhanced port of MK8

>>720272071
Mario Kart World is a brand new game.

>>720272093
Correct

>>720270781
Yeah bro just like those bald guys with thick glasses and patchy beards are totally a real group of people

>>720271635
>The Wii and WiiU eras were easily survivable thanks to the DS and 3DS. Guess what? The Switch 2 doesn't have an alternative release valve
The DS and 3DS were actually a symptom of a deeper problem of Nintendo during that era, particularly, the 3DS, because in a desperate attempt to support both system, Nintendo left us Wii U owners in one of the biggest droughts in the history of gaming due to splitting development teams for both.

The merge was one of the best thing that happe with the switch, and now, it has never been easier to access Nintendo's full library (You own a Wii U, you know what I'm talking about)

>derangement is when criticizing the switch 2
You have not bought up criticism, only controversies and lies, there in lies the problem.

You have also targeted the fandom, which is idiotic.

>Because it's impossible to get good faith arguments out of you people.
Who are "You" people, you are talking to (Me), and I'm willing to have a discussion, you are the one showing you can't sustain one.

>Zelda discussion threads
I'm sorry, am I at fault for the daily seething TotK threads being absolute garbage low quality console warring shit made by people who clearly don't like Nintendo? Why would any serious discussion take place in those shitholes?

>Eric
It's fine if you're fed up with the mention of him, but denying his existence is naive at best, downright dismissive at worst, don't get into discussions that appeal to the lowest common denominator, and you won't get called out like him.

>sales threads multiple times every Thursday-Saturday?
Objective Famitsu and NPD sales data report threads belong on /v/, it's extremely suspicious that you find them to be a problem.

>That they're in it for spite.
And you have shown the exact same behavior, as evidenced by this very thread, you must be respectful if you ask for respect.

>WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT
You talk I'm a very disingenuous manner, I am within my right to doubt your intentions.

>>720272193
The anon asked you if Mario Kart World is a port, and you said yes.
Why did you say that?

>>720272093
My mistake, I confused 8D with world. Ignore >>720271887

>>720272224
This is just dripping with bad faith and dishonesty. Fucking christ.

>>720272273
Okay.

>>720272262
Lapse of judgement. World isn't a port. 8D was.

>>720272307
>No arguments
>Dismissing the core of the discussion
So you don't want a discussion, way to out yourself.

>>720272412
yeah sure why the fuck not, you won, you slew eric or macacofag or nintendeen or sony or the indians or the grifters or the youtubers or whoever the fuck you faggots are mad at nowadays

>>720272307
You'll survive.

Why is the schizo samefagging again?

>>720270648
>>720270782
>>720270942
>>720271092
Is there anything left aside from Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD that didn’t get ported to the 3DS or Switch? I think from memory those are the only first-party titles remaining.

>>720272516
Meds

>>720272465
And now you are back at being a victim.

This is why nobody will ever take you seriously and why the NDS term exist for people like you.

Congrats, you proved you are not Eric, but you're just as ridiculous and pathetic, and it's actually sad that you are just as vitriol-minded as that guy, considering you did like Nintendo games, and now you're missing great experiences like Donkey Kong Bananza due to your recently developed arrogant mindset

>>720272594
Not that guy but I remember one Kirby game with a claymation style

>>720249175 (OP)
it started with pokemon sun & moon and totk was the last straw, nintendo died with iwata

>>720272670
Yeah, Kirby's Rainbow Curse, decent game but way too short.

>>720272658
I didn't follow your guys discussion but I can guess his posts went something like this
>I'm the victim
>haha actually I'm a based true fan and I'm making you mad
>and now I'm the victim again
>whoops I'm based again and making you mad because I'm a true fan
>and I'm back to begin the victim
It's all they do. I'm pretty sure they're just lonely and want attention.

Nintendo are unfortunately the only major console maker that makes actual video games. The idea that one would outgrow videos games and mature into cinematic experience movieslop is retarded. That said, they really need to start adding difficulty modes into their games.

>>720253457
Yeah this is it
I skipped the Wii U and tried the Switch, it was crazy seeing how much they standardized and got lazy

>>720272658
I pulled out a good chunk of my Nintendo consoles and showed my playtime because, like a naive idiot, I thought maybe you'd try arguing in good faith once you saw I was serious. Instead you started acting even more indignant that I attacked your favorite company (" absolute disrespect, not just at Nintendo") and just calling me insane and unhinged because I didn't want to buy a Switch 2. That's why I'm not giving you what you want anymore. Eat shit.
>>720272765
>I didn't read but here's my opinion anyway
nobody gives a shit what you think

>>720272658
There was a Kirby thread recently where the real Eric came forward and posted new photos of himself with his Nintendo Switch and Kirby Air Ride.
I think the Brazilian anti-Nintendo guy is LARPing as the real Eric, and he turned Eric into a boogeyman when he has actually been innocent this whole time.

>>720272786
you just don't understand what outgrowing nintendo means

>>720272824
You just spent hours cry about what Nintendo fans think. What else you got?

>>720272786
I do believe that Nintendo is testing out new cinematic experiences with Donkey Kong Bananza.

>>720272796
>guy who designed Fierce Deity isn't even at Nintendo anymore

I outgrew vidya long ago, I don't know why I'm even doing here, I'm more excited for the announcements than the games themselves.

>>720272224
>Objective Famitsu and NPD sales data report threads belong on /v/, it's extremely suspicious that you find them to be a problem.
Not that anon but there's nothing suspicious about that. If you don't recognize famitsu threads as the definition of flagrant fanboy consolewar shitposting, you are the problem. If the most active posters in those threads got permabanned the board would improve quite a bit.

Brazilian thread.

>>720272865
I don't basedface at every new announcement or blindly defend all the terrible bullshit they do (they really are the video game equivalent of Disney, right down to the shitty anti-consumer practices). I'm just saying there's no real alternative anymore. Sega was the only other console maker that really understood the relationship between hardware and software. Companies like Capcom and Namco were in the same tier as Nintendo and Sega, but never made their own consoles for some reason. PlayStation coasted for a couple generations on Nintendo's mistakes, so it got a lot of good games from those developers, but they've always been about movie shit from day one. And Microsoft has done more damage to gaming than all of them combined.

>>720249175 (OP)
I’ll still love the Nintendo games I played, but for me it was Pokémon and the switch console. The one thing at the time that could’ve convinced me to buy a Switch would be the Pokémon game. I liked Gen 6 less than I liked Gen 5, and I liked Gen 7 less than I liked Gen 6, but seeing Sword and Shield advertised was really disappointing, and sobered me to the series. I’ll love Gen 4 the most and the games I did play, but that was my moment to step off the bus.

I also didn’t think The Legend of Zelda: BOTW looked any good.

>>720273074
You all keep saying "there's no alternative" like you think there's an obligation for you to buy ONE piece of new hardware.

>>720273096
Nintendo + PC has been the winning move for the past 3 generations at least, there's still a bunch of games (usually from Japanese devs) that don't get PC releases.

>>720273081
come on I would never live in that world, get real

>>720272765
Yeah, it's basically that.

>>720272824
You pulled out of the discussion because of your victimizing complex leading you to assume on advance that I was not willing to have my mind changed in regards to your criticism being insincere (after, you know, proving time from time again that you were using lies and propaganda as talking points).

I conceded when you showed the pic, did you forget? No, of course you didn't because you were still arguing until I gave my last arguments and then you pulled back like a bitch without tackling my arguments, do you think I'm stupid? I know what you tried to do there, either go back and address my point or take the L and actually stop replying to my posts.

>(" absolute disrespect, not just at Nintendo")
And what do you think the connection to that line was? When I implied disrespects, I obviously meant the fans, the company is a compound entity, it doesn't need respect, but the connection was for you to realize that your criticism long ago stopped being about "Nintendo" and became hostile to fans. Do not twist my words, you know what I said.

>and just calling me insane and unhinged because I didn't want to buy a Switch 2
When did I say that? I said you're missing out on great experiences, and that's because you keep blindly hating in something without any real strong arguments to back it up, which is embarrassing.

>Eat shit
But please, continue trying to act as the better man here while acting like a child.

>>720272307
You have to realize you can't reach these people. They're not responding to you to be reasoned with, they're responding to you to defend Nintendo and reinforce their loyalty. The only thing that will change them is Nintendo fucking up in a way that affects them more personally.

>>720273170
nice self reply

>>720273031
No, and also a blatant reminder that those threads started around 2014 by fanboys of "the other company", but ever since, and regardless of the shift in dominance over Japan, the threads never stopped, so regardless of what you think about them, they're reporting objective sales data and deserve to exist.

>>720273201
Yeah, that's become abundantly fucking clear, especially with the redditspacing nigger up above.

>>720273201
Why did you reply to yourself?

>>720273248
nice self reply

>>720273248
So now that you failed in changing us what's your next move? Continue trolling every Nintendo thread? That was already happening either way.

>>720273312
you just destroyed any notion of you arguing sincerely

>>720273364
That wasn't me >>720273312

>>720249175 (OP)
My last one was GC. Wii was a waggle waggle family machine, so I just sticked to PC.
I do still play the newer Mario Karts when I'm at my brother's house.

>>720249175 (OP)
id rather outgrow nortubel

>>720273271
>/vg/ tranny that hangs out in a super mario general
Jesus Christ , where did your life go wrong?

>>720272765
Not that guy but the schizos are getting weirder and weirder
And I'm not exactly sure what they have in mind
I'm being noticing they are trying to push that indians are Nintendo fans when Nintendo doesn't even have 1% of the market
I'm also noticing they also pushing for "tendies are the new snoys" or "tendies are just as bad now"
They are even going as far as making poll threads and begging on Reddit to vote for Nintendo
Or just making falseflag threads of what is what fanbase should be deleted (with no Nintendo image in the OP's pic) just for the first post to say Nintendo and most of the replies being samefagging
It's getting really really weird
I meanz, I don't even understand what they win doing that kind of shit

>>720273467
they're all out to get you, anon, it's simple

>>720273467
I specially don't get this guy >>720273364
He posted proof of playing the shit out if BOTW and owning Nintendo consoles up to the switch, including obscure pieces of shit that nobody owned like the Virtual Boy, yet he can't for the life of him not talk about Nintendo as if they had just killed his mother.

I seriously don't get it.

>>720273227
Reporting objective sales is fine. What those threads actually are is not.
Fanboys are all the same, they're just a blight to everybody around them regardless of which corporation they bend over for.

>>720273576
Now you're just playing the victim for Nintendo and acting dramatic.

>>720273528
Oh so you are just a schizo teying to troll huh
Sorry dude but that doesn't work with me

>>720273629
Should be fine with you since that's your entire MO

>>720273638
holy fuck, proofread your posts you third-world piece of subhuman trash

>>720273628
Well, then actually take a moment of your time to understand where the fanboy faggotry comes from.

Hint: It all starts with the guy that spams the same ritual posts about outdated as shit playstation games, every, goddamn, time.

When that guy doesn't appear? Threads are actually quite slow.

>>720273669
No, I don't play victim for Nintendo.

>>720273467
I believe it is some sort of psychological operation by anti-Nintendo glowing agents that are trying to form a stigma around Nintendo and real good games in general.

>>720273629
No, I'm legitimately baffled by your psychology, it's beyond weird.

>>720273758
>how dare you break your loyalty

>>720273576
Are you sure those images are from that dude?
Google is fucking shit nowadays so it's hard to find out
Also I remember some anon who photoshopped an image of a Wii U Splatoon footage from Youtube just to shit on the game so is not that far fetched

>>720273814
Oh, by all means, dumbass. Give me a specific way you want me to take a new photo of my systems. They're still out.

>>720273783
No, that's the thing, I don't own as many classic consoles from Nintendo as you do, I don't even have as many hours into BOTW. So from my point of view, you are the Nintendo cultist, not me, like seriously, owning a Virtual Boy?

Which is why I'm legitimately puzzled, you went from being a far bigger loyalist than I could ever hope to be to becoming an NDS-obsessed faggot that can't hold a civil conversation with casual Nintendo fans.

You're weird, anon.

Link if he Texan

>>720273814
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because he replied with post number relatively fast, so a Photoshop is unlikely.

Still, he's deranged, which makes it all the more puzzling.

>the blatant Nintendo Adult-ism ITT with no reflexive realization, let alone self-awareness, despite being outlined with succinct points of Nintendo's revolting practices that contribute to the decline of video games as a whole
Bookmarking this thread. Here's your proof of why Tendie threads have also brought down this board too

>>720249175 (OP)
Nintendo appeals to kids because their games have bright colourful graphics and inoffensive content.

Nintendo also appeals to adults because adults just want to play fun and engaging unpretentious games and Nintendo generally make the best video games in the world - with a level of design and craft which can only be appreciated by an educated adult mind.

The grey area is the teens and young men, who struggle with identity and maturity. They shun anything which may appear "child-like" because of their own insecurities, while holding on to a bafflingly hilarious belief that video games are a medium capable of delivering deep, insightful musings on the human condition, naunced storytelling and non-cringeworthy voice acting. They will quickly latch onto the most infantile manifestations of "mature" content to validate their own sense of adulthood.

>Oooh it has boobies and violence and swearing.
>Ooooh its dark and gritty... like my soul.
>I am a mature gamer playing mature games.

It doesn't matter to them that these games play like shit or have terrible basic game design.

A quick look at any Best Games Ever list and - without fail - the Top 20 will always be completely saturated with Nintendo titles.

>>720273753
The idea of schizos trying stigmatize groups on the internet is so funny to me
It reminds me of that one schizo from the 3DS era or how social media pushed really hard the whole ṣ0ƴb0ƴ thing at the beggining of the Switch lifespan

>>720274062
Maybe because he bought all of those systems to pretend that he is a Nintendo fan, even though he is likely an anti-Nintendo glowing agent.

>>720273687
I understand where it comes from, I'm just not discriminating and can see all of it.

>>720274090
>Here's your proof of why Tendie threads have also brought down this board too
But this is not a tendie thread, it's the opposite, and it also contributes to the reduction of quality from this board.

Also you keep sounding unhinged.

>>720274131
Yeah, that's the only other hypothesis I can think of, either way it's mental illness but holy shit.

Nobody makes /v/trannies seethe quite like Nintendo.

>>720274128
These anti-Nintendo "schizos" like the Brazilian guy or fake Eric or Armored Core Anon, are probably bought and paid for by glowing agents, and are probably glowing agents themselves.

I also think Fritanga might be a glowing agent, or bought and paid for by glowing agents.

I bought a switch because it was cheap and affordable, and portable in the middle of a pandemic

and i miss handheld consoles.
its touch screen was shit compared to the DS somehow and no games ever made proper use of it

I've never really been a core nintendo fan. like anyone I have fondness for the snes and gameboy line but that wasn't really part of the nintendo kid thing as much as just being general videogame culture. I have a soft spot 3d mario and metroid, I emulated those entries towards the end of the switch's run. probably not going to buy a switch 2 even it remains cracked. it's less that I outgrew nintendo and more so consoles, my ps4 was a 350$ paperweight I used to play like 3 games and I said never again.

>>720273958
Because I saw that Nintendo was about to get really bad, so I stopped buying anything new from them (with the only newer stuff I've gotten being gifts from relatives). See >>720254254, by putting their name on mediocre crap and proudly pushing it as a marquee release for their platform, they demonstrated rapidly plummeting standards in integrity and care.

And I was fucking right. Animal Crossing was released laughably unfinished and patched slowly into a state that still wasn't good enough after a couple years, they kept releasing sports games with horrible content and impotent roadmaps to "flesh them out" over time that didn't always pan out, they released an asset flip of BotW that they charged $70 for while the producer slagged off all the games that came out before the Switch and their fans, they launched a new underbaked console with disgustingly overpriced games and accessories even before the tariffs were factored into their prices, they designed Mario Kart in a way to tell you to go fuck yourself if you want to play it like Mario Kart, and their messaging on the future of their new console has been lacking. And that's not even to mention the horrific way they're using underhanded lawfare to bully developers who make them feel the slightest bit insecure.

>>720274387
*remains uncracked

>thread about losing faith in/growing out of nintendo
>modern nintendo fanboys infesting it to start attacking everyone disillusioned by nintendo and calling them three letter agents
What the fuck is even going on with these people? Glowies? For not liking Nintendo anymore? Really? How are they getting this deranged his fast?

>>720274090
nintendo's practices regarding graphical fidelity and project scope override any other negative influence they've contributed.

>>720273905
You don't need to insult me, anon
Send me of pic of you with a tight white underwear playing your favorite game on the GBA
Bonus points if you have white stockings and a bolgy wolgy

>>720274553
>P-PLEASE LISTEN TO ME IM AM WHOLESOME CHUNGUS ESTRANGED CLASSIC RETRO NINTENDO FAN
i cant believe you ootsnoys and cubesnoys is still pulling this shit

>>720274553
Yes, I do believe that anti-Nintendo glowies are spreading anti-Nintendo propaganda all over the internet.

>>720274553
Looks fine to me. Maybe 4chan is too edgy for you.

>>720274840
Being retarded and batshit insane is not "edgy".

>>720249175 (OP)
I realized, after playing Mario Odyssey, that I've been chasing the N64 era, the last era when Nintendo was creative and ambitious, all this time. Thinking back, I used to try to imagine where gaming would be in the next 10, 20, 30 years, and honestly it's disappointing how gaming in general has become.

>>720274785
Nintendo has always gotten too cocky and greedy and ends up getting hurt for a few years until they innovate themselves into another success.

The Switch 2 is a lot like the Wii U. A more expensive upgraded switch. (Wii)

>>720274090
Go nuts bro.

>>720274938
Please stop being an anyi-Nintendo glowie.
The Switch 2 is succeeding.
We are going to get new Mario games.

>>720274921
>liking Nintendo is retarded and batshit insane
I disagree.

>>720274840
this post proves that /pol/ did irreparable damage to this site

>>720274675
Jesus anon, if you wanted to see an older guy nearly naked, you could just ask your father. I'm confident it wouldn't be the first time he's shown you.

>>720275036
So no pic?

>>720275104
No.

>>720274403
>Because I saw that Nintendo was about to get really bad
No, you didn't many people have already told you this before: Any change or perception that you could have about modern Nintendo geared towards them being "anti-costumer", has most likely already happened in the past, and, in fact, been even worse.

Examples? ToS being relatively the same or even more draconian in the past, legimitately being anti-developer during the N64 era, Yamauchi's arrogance, cartridges being absurdly expensive, Iwata"a obsession with a blue ocean market, abandoning their core fanbase, the "YouTube partner program", archaic WiiWare handling of indie games, etc.

>by putting their name on mediocre crap and proudly pushing it as a marquee release for their platform,
So let me get this straight, your entire detangement over the company and it's fans is Pokemon related? Is that it?

>Animal Crossing was released laughably unfinished and patched slowly into a state that still wasn't good enough after a couple years
Animal Crossing New Horizons was also a polished experience from release that had multiple updates thorough it's life, had an entirely new feature in being able to place items everywhere and modify terrain, and is currently in a state where it's arguably a better game than New Leaf.

>they kept releasing sports games with horrible content and impotent roadmaps to "flesh them out"
So we're going full revisionist, pretending that Mario Sports games were ever consistently good, and dunking on them for receiving updates? I'll give you Stickers, that one sucked, but Tennis Aces was a far better game than fucking Ultra Smash, from the generation you seem to defend.

>asset flip of BotW
Yeah, I'm done arguing with you, you seriously have to be beyond hypocritical to try coming at me with your "genuine argument" bullshit and then pull this retardity, holy shit.

No, not going to argue your Switch 2 points, they're all the same BS that has been argued to death.

>>720275121
:(

>>720275015
Pre 2010s /b/ was worse, newfag.

>>720273958
This isn't rocket science. When you care about and invest time and money into something and it starts actively disappointing or being outright antagonistic to you, it's really easy to invert someone's stance.
You are right, he cares about Nintendo more than you do, he holds them to actual standards. But you can't call yourself a casual fan, you're in here screeching on a corporation's behalf as if he's insulting you personally by criticizing them.

>>720249175 (OP)
They barely did make worthwhile games in the first place. Nintendo peaked with NES and SNES, and they peaked with them only because massive third party support.

>>720275139
>"Is that it?"
>proceeds to list everyfuckingthing else I said right after
You're a special kind of stupid, anon, the kind we in polite society used to forcefully sterilize.
>So we're going full revisionist
No we're not. Previous Mario sports games weren't handicapped at release with the expectation of "we'll fix it later with DLC, swearsie realsies".
>yeah I'm done waahhhhhh
Because I called out TotK for being unambitious and insulting?
>No, not going to argue your Switch 2 points
Because you know they're indefensible. Thanks for your concession.

>>720275285
Why do you keep replying to your own OP?

>>720275234
Please stop pretending to be someone else, it"s embarrassing.

But to answer (You): He didn't attack Nintendo, he attacked me, as a fan, of course I'm going to defend my narrative for why I still enjoy their products, not my fault he got aggressive and started using victim point to defend his indefensible, weak position.

But you are right about something: Love can very easily turn to hatred, so I'm assuming Obsessive, irrational love can turn into obsessive, irrational hatred.

And in either way, he's pathetic.

>>720275318
Why are you acting like an anti-Nintendo glowie who is intentionally being dishonest?

>>720275371
>muh samefag!!!

>>720274553
Yea I dunno, I thought this may have been just a cozy thread but I guess it's just typical that most people would engage in rage-bait low effort shitposting instead. I don't even buy video games anymore and talk about retro slop and I get somehow lumped as a Sony empathizer. Is it really that unreasonable to just have a generalized conversation without being some schizophrenic psyop to convince people to buy some other shitty console?
>>720275139
Like I'm not even the anon this guy is responding to and I don't even understand these talking points. Anon, you are literally just rattling off reasons why you think something is neat. It's fine if you feel that way, but this isn't an objective fact. For instance, New Horizons looks asinine to me because I liked AC for the character interactions and the community/town progress aspect. NH is more of a sandbox, which sure it's fine that they wanted to change it, but to pretend that people wouldn't have issues where they straight up drop a core aspect of the series in support of another? It's ridiculous. (I'm not even gonna go over your other points)
I know anons here have a shit way of arguing everything under buzzwords, but retorting with judgements of objectivity about how new thing is clearly superior (because of multiple updates? did you forget after a few years they dropped the game as dead as a doorknob despite it being at its MOST popular? and really pushing the "new feature" shit, these are just things that exist in the game, they hold no bearing over any sense of judgement by themselves) is just as idiotic. This is probably why the guy isn't listening to you. It's not some fuckin you're with us or against us type shit, you aren't going to convince anyone by just telling them they are incorrect just because they explain their position poorly and probably can't even explain it properly in the first place.

>>720274930
Bingo. I kept hoping that they could eventually strike a second golden age, but it's painfully obvious they couldn't now even if they wanted to and they're chasing a bizarre new audience of more casual apathetic players who just want to be constantly rewarded for randomly putzing around with zero effort.

>>720275008
Of course you would, you're retarded and batshit insane.

>>720275318
>You're a special kind of stupid, anon, the kind we in polite society used to forcefully sterilize.
So, ad hominem and name-calling, really nature.

>No we're not. Previous Mario sports games weren't handicapped at release with the expectation of "we'll fix it later with DLC, swearsie realsies".
Oh you're right! They were inexcusably shit from the start with no hope of ever returning my investment!

...How is that any better?

>Because I called out TotK for being unambitious and insulting?
No, because you started out with the usual, deranged, reductionist take that Sony and PC fans use all the time to discredit the technical achievements of TotK and reduce it to a mere "port", a completely disingenuous narrative that is only regurgitated by those who don't want to have a constructive discussion about the game.

That's how you lost all seriousness, and yes, TotK is an universally acclaimed game, it takes more than memes to discredit it, particularly infantile ones like that.

>Because you know they're indefensible. Thanks for your concession.
Sigh...

>Overpriced.
Reductionist propaganda based on the retail release of a single game that can also be obtained for $50

>Mario Kart World update
Overly exaggerated nitpick turned into an entire narrative fueled by confirmation bias about how a random update meant to fix the random button in random matchmaking (which is not even the only online mode) was somehow "anti-costumer"

>Messaging on the future of the console
Doomposting based on uncertainty over a company known for consistent monthly releases.

>Underhanded lawfare
Something that has always been a part of the company, of ANY company, but instigated by a relatively bit publisher that played the victim once they couldn't get away with their CEO bragging about their "small indie game" stealing designs and assets from other games and getting away with it. In other words, more propaganda.

Happy?

>>720275371
>>720275748
But to answer (You): He didn't attack Nintendo, he attacked me, as a fan
>>720268720
>You first faggot
>grifter
>>720268460
"Former tendies" are an absolutely obtuse way to define "faggots who liked 2-3 GameCube games when they were kids and then turned to PS/PC when they grew up.
Nope. You're the one who came out swinging with insults and snottily dismissive handwaving of critics. All I said to you at first was for you to "get a grip", and you lost your absolute shit at me with a storm of effete sophistry.

>>720275748
>Reductionist propaganda
Nnnnnope. Overpriced is overpriced. There's no nuance just because it's your favorite company doing it now.

>>720275557
>This is probably why the guy isn't listening to you. It's not some fuckin you're with us or against us type shit, you aren't going to convince anyone by just telling them they are incorrect just because they explain their position poorly and probably can't even explain it properly in the first place
And is he doing anything in his own to convince anyone here? I'm defending my position, particularly in regards to his superficial attack on games he doesn't seem to have a deep understanding of.

You not liking NH is fine, I was personally a fan of the new mechanics and that's why the supposed "lack of content", didn't affect me as much as it did to you, I moved on to other games and came back for the update, so the game felt like a complete experience.

That guy is clearly not arguing sincerely.

>>720275943
arguing sincerely is when saying nintendo is the best and perfect all the time ever

>sigh, you know what I miss? When red was losing and (blue was winning), those were the good times
Every time

>>720276030
Yeah, I do miss when Nintendo had to actually fucking innovate and try, and not mentally sit in a goddamn hammock.

>>720249175 (OP)
gaycube

>>720275806
Congrats, you showed how this entire narrative arose from you playing victim over the "modern Nintendo fans" attacking you.

In other words, an attack to the fans, disentangled to the company.

>Nope. You're the one who came out swinging with insults and snottily dismissive handwaving of critics. All I said to you at first was for you to "get a grip", and you lost your absolute shit at me with a storm of effete sophistry.
By pointing out the weakness of even using "Tendies" as a group?

I concede I started aggressive and with accusations, but it seemed to work, you mellowed out too, and actually approached a semblance of a logical discussion, too bad your arguments are still extensively weak.

>>720276030
cubesnoy think its working too

>>720276142
>you started it because you also blamed fans for financially cosigning Nintendo's behavior
>but wait I actually started it by insulting people wait shit nevermind
This is rich, anon.

>>720276085
You miss Switch 1?

>>720276085
Naaah you were probably calling everything Nintendo did a gimmick or saying they were baby games while sucking on the PS2 like everyone else back then

>>720276240
I miss the early days of the Switch 1, yes. Before the success completely mindbroke them and before that soulless bugman Furukawa took over.

>>720275856
>Overpriced is overpriced. There's no nuance just because it's your favorite company doing it now.
And when have games not been "overpriced this gen?

- When you have the new standard set by other companies of AAA release being $70 minimum?
- When said companies have also started the insidious practice of making "Base packages (priced at the "cheap" $60 mark) and "Deluxe/Gold version" (Priced at $90-$100, AKA, the actual full game experience)
- When full priced games pretend to work with a GaaS format so that you can add Microtransactions on top of your full price experience?

But the moment Nintendo finally took the plunge and slapped the $80 tag on a complete game, they are the worst? A game that you can, again, buy for $50?

Yeah, I think there's nuance to the argument.

>>720275943
>is he doing anything in his own
I suppose that's up for you to decide since from what I understand he is just attacking you directly. I agree with most things he is saying, but that's why I butted in to begin with since talking about facts in a roundabout way isn't really conductive to "defending yourself" in a way where you can actually make progress in your guy's argument.
For instance, I didn't even talk about the lack of content anon. I didn't even express a specific dislike about the entire system since for me I barely even engage in or play Switch games. I do my best to get caught up on how most people feel about things, and even enjoyers of NH didn't like that aspect. Just because you were content with the experience, doesn't mean people who are accustomed to the amount of content something like NL had are unjustified. You throwing in a comment about playing other games is just a pointless snide remark because it adds nothing, for all intents and purposes there is no reason to believe others who played NH and were discontent didn't do the same. People WANTED to play more of it, and saw opportunities and potential for it to grow further since the game by it's very nature was designed with that kind of online multiplayer long-term engagement in mind. The capacity to play other games does not make irrelevant the quality of what a game offers. And this is what I mean by how you address and respond to points. He may or may not be arguing with sincerity, but you are consistently casting definitive judgements where there is no need or reason to do so. This just makes people respond poorly emotionally to you because you present yourself as failing to understanding the opposition.
Obviously you have no obligation TO understand, but at some point you have to understand that if you just speak pretentiously, I don't know why you would be surprised that people would be callous and dismissive of you entirely.

>>720276369
Because Nintendo was the last bulwark against that level of jewishness, that's why they're the worst. They changed just because they saw that they could get away with turning the heat up higher. They weren't remotely hurting, considering the insane profitability of the Switch.
>a game you can buy for $50?
Where? You're not talking about that bundle with the $420 Switch 2 and the $80 Mario Kart World, are you?

>>720276230
Oh no! You used memes! That means you totally won.

Argue sincerely, then I'll respect you.

>but wait I actually started it by insulting people wait shit nevermind
You were the one that started spreading around with multiple posts in the thread calling "us" (as in, your vision of Nintendo fan), cattle and bootlickers, you get exactly what you asked for, but glad to know you finally mellowed out.

My first Nintendo console was the Wii. I enjoyed the first party games and was always jealous of the third party selection every other platform owner had. I was the kid that was forced to play The Conduit and pretend it was a revolutionary FPS.

I did my rounds around and became a PC gamer eventually and that's where I've been at ever since.

I think Nintendo makes good games and has made a lot of good games over the years, including plenty of all timers, but I don't see them above everyone else to the point that I am interested in being in their little closed ecosystem. I don't mind playing Nintendo games one, two or even three generations behind.

And nowadays I am more off them than ever because I got tired of open world slop decades ago and a lot of their games are starting to fall for that. The new Zelda games and the new Mario Kart look completely unappealing to me.

>>720276685
So basically you're still in your teen phase

>>720276410
Beautifully said, anon, but it's probably going to fall on deaf ears. He's just flummoxed and changing up his argumentation because I actually had material means to back up my credentials as a former fan that he oh-so smugly dismissed as being a sure impossibility, which just completely threw a wrench in his works.

>>720276369
Nintendo could took a plunge and slap 40 or even 30 on their main line titles and enjoy shitloads of good publicity from players but they just had to be absolute jews on the issue.

>>720276758
Not at all, anon. What does teenagehood have to do with anything I said? kek

>>720276685
i have wiisnoy fatigue

>>720276410
Look, this conversation isn't being productive, I'll leave you be, you sound genuine in your criticism, so even if we fundamentally disagree on NH, I'll take your comment seriously.

I'm arguing with him in a pretentious way because he's an expert manipulator and a person with unclear demands, the signs are there, so I'll keep defending my points with arguments.

>>720276481
>Because Nintendo was the last bulwark against that level of jewishness, that's why they're the worst
So you hate them more than anyone else BECAUSE they are the least bad option? They always had to act as the hero for you to remain loyal? Is that what I'm getting at?

We're talking about industry standards here, people allowed other companies to get away with the abusive practices I previously mentioned, in comparison, Nintendo still sounds like the least bad option, releasing a complete game in full physical format at a higher price (and only one at that, considering their next big release was $70)

That's a weird logic

>Where? You're not talking about that bundle with the $420 Switch 2 and the $80 Mario Kart World, are you?
No, I'm talking about the bundle with $450 Switch 2 and the $50 Mario Kart World download code.

>>720276814
Stop talking like an anti-Nintendo glowie.
I can't stand all of this anti-Nintendo propaganda.

>>720276301
Your opinion is noted

>>720276142
Eh. The ones that still buy some Nintendo games because they just want to play them are one thing, but the ones that enable Nintendo and aggressively defend their every awful decision need to be dumped on alongside Nintendo. They support degradation just because it doesn't suck bad enough for them personally just yet. They're unhealthy, they deserve flak.

>>720277049
Nintendo makes real games.

>>720276873
>because he's an expert manipulator
And now you play the victim, classic manipulative tactic, grifter.
>We're talking about industry standards here
The reason Nintendo struck a chord with people so strongly with the Wii and Switch is that the ESCHEWED industry standards like that. Nintendo being "the least bad" isn't worth shit anymore when they're within a margin of error of the price floor of their expensive competition.
>No, I'm talking about the bundle with $450 Switch 2 and the $50 Mario Kart World download code.
Doesn't exist. The discount is coming out of the hardware (which is also why they have enough leeway to give Japan a version that's almost $100 cheaper). See >>720254619 for why there's an actual distinction to be made here.

>>720277136
Bot?

>>720252698
>The Switch absolutely ruined my confidence in their hardware quality, as well.
And the Wii and the Wii U didn't? What?

>>720277049
>but the ones that enable Nintendo and aggressively defend their every awful decision need to be dumped on alongside Nintendo
Congrats on justifying the continuous attack and harassing of other members of the community, here's a quick question for you: What do you think would have happened, if instead of singling out those "rabbid fans" you seem to hate, you had calmly swayed them over to your side with good communication?

>They're unhealthy, they deserve flak.
They are not unhealthy, but they, just like you, are tired of the anti-Nintendo crowd, and will not listen to anything you have to say, just like you won't listen.

Such, is the problem with extremism.

>>720259736
>>720263805
Agreed

>>720277205
No, I am not a bot.
Nintendo makes real games.

>>720275557
Anyway side thing I want to add onto this because I just remembered; That's another huge reason why I personally dropped Nintendo. I mentioned it briefly earlier, but historically (especially from N64 onwards) they had this tendency to just drop what worked and never evolve. I've tried several switch games, and they all have this core theme of subversion due to notions of what people even wanted when the "formula" argument started floating around. To me, Nintendo peaked in gameplay with the SNES era, they carried that ethos somewhat with 3D as best they could but obviously had to some concessions with the new medium.
But I feel like after 64, they have done nothing but regress. Sure you can argue whatever you want about the GCN/6th gen era, too short dev times, too many splintered projects, technology moving too fast, but by the time 7th gen rolled around, they doubled down on some false premise solely because of the Wii's reach. Then nonstop you would hear almost everywhere on the internet that Nintendo got stale, sterile, their formulas are all boring, etc etc.
The ONLY reason why that is, was because they never once bothered to add onto what they established in the 64 era. They did nothing but remove, take away, make things easier, and tutorialize. If Nintendo gave the amount of decision making respect as they used to, I'm sure people would look onto the GCN>Wii>Wii U era much more favorably.
I'd like to think that there is no such thing as "antiquated gameplay" or whatever, there are many concepts that could've just been expanded on. Yet a majority of the formulas drastically altered their appeal and genres for no real reason when they could've just taken any risks with it. Not to say their shifts now aren't "risks", but they come off more as aiming to do less under the guise of more for money, or just trend chasing for easy money. It's why I can't really see them as "the last bastion of fun". Maybe in exclusively AAA, but that bar is extremely low.

>>720277153
>And now you play the victim, classic manipulative tactic, grifter.
And now you're literally doing no u, it's manipulative, and also pretty childish.

>Nintendo being "the least bad" isn't worth shit anymore when they're within a margin of error of the price floor of their expensive competition.
And does that justify you going nuclear on them AND their fans? While ignoring every single other problem in the industry?

No, it doesn't, because it becomes targeted, personal, and not at all conductive to change.

And if you think there isn't anything wrong with that, you are no different from a Sony fanboy, you have an emotional reason to act, whether that's "betrayal", or "being in the losing team".

>Doesn't exist. The discount is coming out of the hardware (which is also why they have enough leeway to give Japan a version that's almost $100 cheaper).
No, you have no evidence to back this up, can you please provide me with the reports in regards to the total operative profits per unit sold in those japanese consoles? Maybe Nintendo is actually losing money in their homeland?

And also, at the end of the day: a $450 single console + a $80 vs. a $500 console + game is still a $30 save, you can attribute that to the console or the game, but you're still paying less, it's extremely pointless to argue semantics over that.

>>720277265
>What do you think would have happened, if instead of singling out those "rabbid fans" you seem to hate, you had calmly swayed them over to your side with good communication?
We tried that multiple times. We tried that when Nintendo made their second (and successful) attempt to finally roll out paid online. Fans told us to shut up and just give it a chance. We tried diplomacy again when Game Freak was misleading fans to justify gross neglect/incompetence with SwSh in light of it being the biggest IP in the world. We were treated as monsters, and fans gleefully consumed extra copies of the game out of spite. We tried to urge fans that Nintendo launching the OLED at a higher price than the original system while never dropping its price or the Lite's was ridiculous. Fans told us to shut the fuck up so they could preorder their new toy.

I'm done trying to be diplomatic and gentle with continual Nintendo fans. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt of being receptive to reason and positive consumer treatment anymore.

>>720277554
Are you using Anime picrels again?
I heard that that was one of the Brazilian anti-Nintendo glowie's tactics.

>>720277049
>but the ones that enable Nintendo and aggressively defend their every awful decision need to be dumped on alongside Nintendo.
Such as?

>>720277602
>And does that justify you going nuclear on them AND their fans?
Not that anon, but Nintendo fans on /v/ are the ones going nuclear, to be honest. It has become blatant "Nintendo fans get mad at everyone else on /v/" posting for years now.

How long has the schizo been doing this song and dance?
>schizo makes a bait thread to shit on Nintendo
>anons immediately notice that it is him and call him out
>schizo starts bitching and crying that no one can criticize Nintendo
>the rest of the thread it's him bitching about Nintendo fans and making himself the victim
>rinse and repeat
Same as it ever was

>>720277602
>and also pretty childish.
So what?
>And does that justify you going nuclear on them AND their fans?
Yes. Unequivocally.
>While ignoring every single other problem in the industry?
I have no obligation to make special mentions of non-Nintendo companies' behavior in a Nintendo-focused thread.
>Maybe Nintendo is actually losing money in their homeland?
And maybe I fart 24 karat nuggets of gold!

>>720277554
>they had this tendency to just drop what worked and never evolve. I've tried several switch games, and they all have this core theme of subversion due to notions of what people even wanted when the "formula" argument started floating around.
I read your entire post and you didn't give a single example of this.

>>720276873
Sounds good I suppose, can't say I fully understand the entire thread of the argument either, I'm just responding mildly half-asleep.

>>720277643
I've been posting in this tread for a while, and Neptune is Vidya retard.

>>720276301
Despite my disdain, I have respect for the Wii U and 3DS as console experiences. I feel like Switch 1 may have done decently when people weren't accustomed to the subversive game changes they were doing, but I really wish it wasn't as low-key by comparison. I guess that's what made it so successful so it's not like I would know, but the tech-optimism of the console experiences were some of the last vestiges of consoles I even cared for. Streetpass was still great despite barely playing any actual 3DS games.

>>720263805
>>720259736
This is true even back then, I encourage people to try out retro systems and games as there is several lifetimes worth of fantastic content that just fell under the radar or was just never released west-side. The reliance on exclusively new releases is unnecessary when appreciating history is just as fulfilling. (Not to say you can't just balance both)

>>720277623
>We tried that multiple times.
Did you now? Were you civil? Cordial about that, because you didn't present evidence, but I can:

>>720252739
Yeah... That definitely didn't sound like a calm, collected response that values the integrity of the people it targeted, now did it?

>We tried diplomacy again when Game Freak was misleading fans to justify gross neglect/incompetence with SwSh in light of it being the biggest IP in the world
No, you started an aggressive campaign so bad it literally received the nickname: "Dexit", were you proceeded to dunk on normal people for simply stating that they didn't mind the Pokedex cut and that they "understood that it was eventually going to happen", I remember those threads.

>We tried to urge fans that Nintendo launching the OLED at a higher price than the original system while never dropping its price or the Lite's was ridiculous
>Fans told us to shut the fuck up
No, they didn't, they just didn't mind the fact that the Switch didn't have a price drop, you started calling everyone ship for that.

>I'm done trying to be diplomatic and gentle with continual Nintendo fans
Good, expect to continue bend treated as a joke.

>>720277738
Dude you have been thoroughly destroyed and now are basically coping that Nintendo le bad. Just accept it.

>>720277894
>exclusives bad because no one else makes them

>>720277901
>no we just didn't mind having worse and worse standards
and that's why we have to talk to you like annoying kids, because your shit standards and willingness to put money behind them has lowered the bar for everyone
>>720277934
no I haven't lol

>>720276685
based as fuck

>>720274118
You're onto something but I disagree with you on the insecurity of teens and young men. They are indeed insecure but I often find that they, strangely enough, reject video games as a whole as opposed to the "I only play mature games for mature gamers such as myself" stereotype you assume they operate under. And I'd argue that the primary sin they detest even more so than perceived immaturity is "consumerism" despite the fact that the very act of viewing and participating in online discourse surrounding Nintendo involves a hefty amount of consuming. Again, because they're all a bunch of dumb kids, the consumerism label does indeed grate on the nerves not because it's an accurate attack but because it's said with the same energy of young vegan calling their family murderers for having a barbeque or a kid calling everything "fascist" during his anarchist phase.

>>720278040
>attacking a single strawmanned point
that's an L, consneed brotha.

jesus christ the Nintendo discord is disgustingly good at ruining threads

>>720278040
Thanks for still putting words in my mouth, you sound desperate.

>and that's why we have to talk to you like annoying kids,
Newsflash, you idiots literally targeted kids during the whole Dexit debacle, you bullied them because they didn't mind the changes in Sw/Sh (as most kids do with their favorite games)

No, that didn't leave you guys in a good light, and as I stated before, people are justifiably tired of you.

>your shit standards and willingness to put money behind them has lowered the bar for everyone
Again, your inability to understand why someone could enjoy a game has blinded you to become extremists and alienate other people away from your narrative (yes, even a modern Pokemon game, which I agree are not in a good situation right now).

>>720255117
Anon its the fastest selling console in human history globally, no amount of cope delusion will negate that

>>720278192
The anti-Nintendo Discord is a bunch of anti-Nintendo glowies.

>>720278315
>Newsflash, you idiots literally targeted kids during the whole Dexit debacle, you bullied them because they didn't mind the changes in Sw/Sh (as most kids do with their favorite games)
Sure, blame us for being emotional angry retards over criticism.

>>720249175 (OP)
>They don't make worthwhile games anymore, just "experiences."
Agreed.
Metroid Dread was one of the last attempts at making a game.

>>720278348
Donkey Kong Bananza is a real game.

>>720278348
And it came from the studio who killed the Castlevania games. Crazy redemption arc, granted, but that's still such a depressing state of affairs for Nintendo.

>>720277894
Can you post any more jargon? Jesus anon, you don't even know what subversive means.

>>720278346
This guy sounds like he's retalliating from the ones that started the attack, I agree his attitude is not ideal, but let's not pretend why some immature people started reacting like this.

The posts he's replying to probably said some really unhinged shit too, but that's not the part you care about, because, as usual, you only cropped the part that supports your narrative.

>>720278507
>HE WAS A GOOD BOY HE DINDU NUFFIN

>>720278541
Stop being an anti-Nintendo glowie.

>>720278541
Did I imply that? Can you please actually read my post? Or are you more concerned with strawmanning?

>>720278568
You literally gave him all the benefit of the doubt for being a destructive rampaging asshole over people who said "boo" to Pokemon. Meanwhile you immediately and cynically dismissed everyone who claimed to be a former Nintendo fan. You're not smart, and you're not arguing sincerely. You're a piece of shit who just wants the last (pretentious) word in Nintendo's favor.

Isn't it funny how the schizo who is so opinionated and always replies with walls of text completely ignored the post calling out his baiting style?

>>720278669
You are an anti-Nintendo glowie who is posting NSFW to the catalog every time you lose an argument.

>>720278012
What? Did you quote the wrong post?
>>720277772
I implied it since I figured it was self-explanatory and specifics are tangential to my greater point. I guess if you are pressed for examples of how I personally feel about something, I can use Zelda as one that's easy but I don't know how to explain it without using easy buzzwords to fit the character limit.

In the macro, pre-open world 3D Zelda to me feels fairly unique as an experience since what Zelda felt like to me was a non-stats RPG with "metroidvania" qualities. I felt it was great in the 64 era since it's one of the few examples of that in 3D instead of 2D (even now). They weren't without faults obviously, new medium meant to chase trends at the time of glamourizing immersion with cinematics. In terms of design, there was several instances where just a few minor tweaks to progression could've easily pushed players into open-ended nonlinearity as both OoT and MM have a lot of very minor locks that prevent such a thing from being possible. It could lead to enjoyable games that didn't lose their luster solely because the puzzle got solved.
Things simply got worse at the GCN era. Both WW and TP fail for different reasons, with WW being the "theoretically" better. Either way, both failed to sustain the amount of genuine engagement and opportunities that didn't simply involve following the motions, railroading the player which just gives them less opportunity to explore the game beyond the base intent. I guess it's not an inherent issue, but compared to something like LTTP where it's enjoyable to replay or do challenge runs or etc, it turns it less game-y. This is all obviously just exemplified with SS as the ultimate example of watered down experience you play once and forget forever, leading to the public consensus of the formula having nothing else to offer. It's become mostly linear, and while in the moment it could be enjoyable, with any history of past games it just ends up not comparable.

>>720278669
>You literally gave him all the benefit of the doubt
No, I didn't, I literally implied that his behavior was immature and destructive, but I also pointed a single logical premise:

Retaliation precedes an attack.

Which is what happened, multiple times, unprompted during the Dexit debacle, which you give no documentation over because I know you were selective about the kind of screenshots you saved, showing your inherent bias an insincerity.

>Meanwhile you immediately and cynically dismissed everyone who claimed to be a former Nintendo fan.
And you, up to this point, have failed to look like someone with sincere criticism, thus, proving that I was right to be suspicious, go figure.

>You're not smart, and you're not arguing sincerely. You're a piece of shit who just wants the last (pretentious) word in Nintendo's favor.
Curious, all of that applies to you to, except change "in Nintendo's favor" for "Against Nintendo"

See how extremism works? Well, at least I hope you have enough self-awareness to.

But please, prove yourself right, stop replying to me, then maybe you'll go as the better man.

>>720278917
>all this because I originally said "get a grip" to you
fucking hell anon

>>720279001
I know, you keep replying somehow.

>>720249175 (OP)
After the snes

>>720249175 (OP)
Totk was so bad ...
It was the breaking point of all of their bullshit i let pass by .

Thanks totk

>>720274118
>Nintendo appeals to kids because their games have bright colourful graphics and inoffensive content.
When I was a kid I played Super Mario Land and liked it because it was a fun challenge. Same for Mario World, Donkey Kong on Gameboy. I loved Zelda because the dungeons were scary and dangerous.
They don't even make games for kids anymore. They make games for toddlers and the mentally handicapped now.

>>720279023
You immediately snapped after and wrote dozens of Russian novel length manifestos about how Nintendo is never ever wrong because of three words. Three fucking words.

THREE of the Top 5 highest rated games of 2025 are Switch 2 exclusives. And Metroid Prime 4 is still to come.

If you don't play Nintendo then you're simply missing out on the best video games in the world. It really is that simple.

>>720279059
TotK is so good it came out in 2023 and is still the highest rated game of 2025.

LMFAOO

>>720277265
You think I started out angry, just started screaming at the people I used to agree with? Look at how you responded to me. Assumptive, condescending and dismissive and for what? Why respond like that to what should be a pretty reasonable take unless you think Nintendo can do no wrong? The problem is anyone who cares enough to defend a corporation doesn't want calm dialogue, they want silent dialogue. You can be polite as possible and either completely ineffectual or upset them anyway the moment you land on something with any actual teeth.
Correct, the real answer is nobody is going to change your mind but you or Nintendo. Nothing I say will change you or anyone else I'm talking about. Nintendo will just have to do something that cuts you personally and makes you stop to reconsider. Enabling them only makes that an inevitability.
This is all just people venting frustrations. No minds will be changed from threads like this, at best they're just a visible ripple for an internal fight.

and here comes the canned TotK bait

>>720274118
I'm not reading all that

>>720279101
Open world slop
Open world slop
Good game, played it on my PC
Metroidvania slop
Looks mid

>>720279084
And you continue to show to be incapable of letting go of a conversation that you already lost, rivaling me in the writing of articulate manifestos (at least early on), all to try to prove what? That you can keep up with my normal writing style? That you're still the victim here? That to whoever is actually crazy enough to read this insanity, you "won" because you had the last reply? Come on anon, at least "three fucking words" would have sufficed if you weren't so arrogant.

"Don't, alienate, fans"

>>720279263
And another manifesto lol

>>720279101
Based and truth-pilled.

>>720272217
Yes? Are you being sarcastic and I’m just a retard?

>>720278837
Finally we lead to >>720278483 so anon can understand what words and context means.
The open world games are a direct answer and intentional subversion of everything established by the Zelda formula post LTTP. It makes everything open & it makes the ending available on purpose. It's been stated multiple times that they wanted these games to throw away what Zelda had and start from scratch since they were aware that the "formula" was a "problem".
Now I'm not gonna get into shit about franchises and audience expectations and etc despite feeling it's important, so I'll just mention it offhand.
Point is, despite what the open world games do, they still don't really capture the zelda 1 experience. LTTP is still much closer to that than either botw or totk, and while they are fine enough games, the aren't gonna throw away their design ethos despite the shift onto traditional open-world design. Thus to me these games come off as just imitations of open world games that the general public is already accustomed to but with Nintendo's stylings. It lacks any of the identity or agency that makes Zelda what it is. And this is why I feel it's a subversion and a misunderstood one; they changed the formula due to assumptions that it just didn't work when I feel like they continuously sabotaged it and never understood they made it worse since the start.
Fundamentally the design was solid, unique, and required a decent amount of effort to even replicate given how few 3D Zelda clones exist that don't just hard focus on combat (or just end up bad). What's worse is that the open world games do FEATURE these elements in as well, and while it had a few steps in interesting directions, the examples those dungeons set plus the entire game feels like it still didn't even address any of the actual issues of the worse 3D Zelda games. They just try to sidestep it by doing something different and making the "Zelda" aspects so small scale that it wouldn't matter.

>>720279149
>Why respond like that to what should be a pretty reasonable take unless you think Nintendo can do no wrong?
Because I sistematically debunked all your supposedly "reasonable" takes? But in your mind, supposedly, I'm still in the wrong?

The maybe:
>Correct, the real answer is nobody is going to change your mind but you or Nintendo
Ypu should apply that to yourself, this discussion is as pointless as me trying to move a black hole mass wall, you are already entitled and stuck to your deranged anti-Nintendo narrative. The only people you'll ever share common points of view are Sony fanboys really, perhaps you should fully join them.

>>720279296
And another pointless reply with no arguments, other than desperately trying to get the last word.

>>720278837
>I implied it since I figured it was self-explanatory and specifics are tangential to my greater point
It's more that you're trying to make it sound like you know what you're talking about while avoiding any actual details by using words people recognise to give a false sense of understanding.
For example
>pre-open world 3D Zelda to me feels fairly unique as an experience since what Zelda felt like to me was a non-stats RPG with "metroidvania" qualities. I felt it was great in the 64 era since it's one of the few examples of that in 3D instead of 2D (even now). They weren't without faults obviously, new medium meant to chase trends at the time of glamourizing immersion with cinematics
None of this actually means anything.
Essentially all you've said is "I liked the old Zelda games but dislike the new Zelda games also I mentioned Metroidvanias and cinematics which aren't relevant."
There's not a single thing referring to the game.

>>720279412
>if you're not with us, you're with Sony
and so the mask comes off

>>720279519
Considering you seem to regurgitate the same exact points as them, yeah, it does seem like it.

But it's nice to know you got nothing but memes to reply with.

Don't worry, I'll still reply to the sporadic long comment you'll make next too.

>>720279567
sony is when not like nintendo thing

Anyone who engages in console war faggotry as an adult is an embarrassment.

>>720279101
DELETE THIS!

>>720279618
>Be anon
>Be out of arguments
>Expose himself to be a deranged ex-Nintendo cultist
>Expose himself to be unable to follow through on his criticism of Nintendo with other companies
>Expose himself on shamelessly using regurgitated anti-Nintendo propaganda used by Sony fanboys and PC fanboys.
>Pretend he's still the victim

>>720279476
it means nothing to you because you've never played a nintendo game before 2017 kek

>>720279732
why am i expected to talk about sony or microsoft in a nintendo thread, do you also go into persona threads demanding them to talk about final fantasy?

>>720279752
It doesn't mean anything because it just doesn't mean anything.

>>720279145
A 70 bucks port and glorified dlc destroying the vibe of the original .

>>720279412
You are talking to multiple anons, you didn't systematically anything to me.
But you just made a good case for why fanboys are not treated courteously. They don't deserve to be.

>>720279101
>>720279145
Unfathomably based af

>>720279795
That's not even remotely close to what he said.

>>720279908
>Expose himself to be unable to follow through on his criticism of Nintendo with other companies
that's exactly what "he" said

>arthur found the thread and has begun samefagging
joy

>>720279795
Because you're complaining about Nintendo, singling them out of the overall context of the industry, destructively critizicing the company AND it's fans (whatever we define that to be), not offering solutions, not being cordial or respectful to other posters, and, in many cases, resorting to misinformation and outdated narratives to perpetrate fallacious points.

If you showed to me that you placed even a bit of this level of effort in fighting for the better of the industry against harmful Steam, Xbox, or PlayStation policies, I could see a point to your charade as an activist.

You won't, though.

>>720279908
I implied it, but as usual, he picks it apart to strawmans a weak counter.

>>720280010
Always happens when a Nintendo thread doesn't go his way.

>>720280063
>destructively critizicing the company
oh yeah there were 100% tears welling up when this was written

>>720279852
>You are talking to multiple anons,
Oh, so now every single long reply didn't come from you? Then why did "multiple anon" fail to reply to my arguments?

Deflecting much?

>But you just made a good case for why fanboys are not treated courteously
And you made a brilliant case for haters never being treated as anything more than a joke, so yay?

>>720280139
And more memes, you really don't have any dignity huh?

>>720280196
You unironically write phrases like "destructively criticizing Nintendo". You don't get to accuse anyone else of lacking dignity.

>>720279476
Maybe if you intentionally shitpost and be obtuse, which is why I use words people can easily recognize (which is why they're easy in the first place) and you still purposefully ignore everything or are somehow capable of not understanding something so simple. What do you want, a explanation of how story progression is more linear (which i mentioned) except it's beyond just item locks? Are you just gonna conveniently simplify it and rewrite it in it's entirety just to say whatever you want again, like yes I am stating an opinion, that is how that works in most conversations.
Have you ever even thought about how much of a downgrade Clawshots are compared to Hookshots in terms of intentional design? I'm sure that would've been fun to discuss.
You're an idiot if you don't know what metroidvania means nor if you don't understand how much story and cutscenes impacted Zelda gameplay. Which btw, botw/totk intentionally shorten and minimize too for the literal same reason.

Epic meaningless shitpost I guess, you put yourself in a position where you can move the goalpost wherever you want claiming any and every explanation isn't detailed enough for you. I can't help you understand simple things, and I'm sorry that words existing at all upsets you. I'm sure your arbitrary limit is somewhere, but if all you have is pedantic nonsense, then there's nothing left for me to say. I've said my piece.

>>720279101
Holy fuck is anyone even competing with Nintendo at this point?

>>720280249
>destructively criticizing Nintendo
...Do you even know that constructive vs. destructive criticism means?

Are you seriously so emotional that you lost basic perception of the direction of the argument? "Destructive Criticism" has an actual definition, which is the opposite of "Constructive": Negative feedback, comments, or remarks that are harmful, hurtful, or damaging.

Which can be interpreted in two ways: Either you direct it to the company, or to the fans.

To the fans, you are being destructive, because you started with the name-calling, the accusations, and how they don't deserve "respect".

To the company, you are ALSO being destructive, because not even once dis you ever comment on what Nintendo needs to do to improve, you resorted to all sort of negative buzzwords and doomposting so that the company, "gets what it deserves".

>>720280249
Why are tendies such manchildren? It really puts into perspective why they are so autistic when they think they are actually defending their favorite company from destruction.

>>720280063
Are you really trying to pretend to be your opposition just to shitpost about Nintendo?

>>720280461
...here comes the 'caco retard.

>>720280010
I'll never understand why ACfag even bothers at this point.

>>720280464
I wish, that faggot just won't stop replying.

>>720280427
>because you started with the name-calling
motherfucker you literally admitted that you started with the insults

>>720280728
And I literally showed you examples early in the thread, before I even started posting, about how the tone for this entire discussion was anything but civil, and that included (You), evidently.

Wanna go back to the hostility, retard?

>>720249175 (OP)
when the n64 released I already knew the nintendo I loved growing up was gone
I couldn't care less about the games it had

>>720280140
>Oh, so now every single long reply didn't come from you?
Correct. I gave you a single long response. None of the others were from me.
Deflecting what? I'm actually kind of curious.
Like I said, no minds will be changed. I'm just pointing out you don't deserve what you were asking for.

>>720279101
OOFT

>>720280908
>Like I said, no minds will be changed. I'm just pointing out you don't deserve what you were asking for.
Cute way of hiding behind the fact that you had no arguments left, but that doesn't work on me lil' dude. I still presented my points, and I got no reply from someone sincere.

>>720249175 (OP)
when they stabbed us in the back with the wii

>>720274118
None of this is exclusive to Nintendo and still isn't. People can move on from Nintendo without aiming for the pursuit of "not appreciating pretty colors for my autism". If Nintendo made less "Mario Bros" and more "Wario Land" then I would personally enjoy it more. They don't, they specifically aim for wide appeal which is mundane and inoffensive and boring. No different from CoD (or I guess whatever hero shooter people don't hate these days?) doing the same shit for it's genre. Shit being in top 20 just supports this, it can do everything right but can do nothing remarkable. It's just good enough for everyone, and have no filters. Things that could potentially alienate people gives art more identity. This isn't to say generic wide appeal is worthless, but in the same vein this is also why people can just move on from the surface level.

You can really tell who's making what posts by their formatting.

>>720281139
/v/ isn't one person?

the only game Nintendofags play anymore is Famitsu Sales, and that was a hand-me-down from Playstation

>>720281172
>Famitsu
Obsessed

>>720280415
Why are you even getting angry here?
You were just asked to make a post worth reading and instead of doing that you're throwing a temper tantrum.

>>720281078
>>720281063
Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?

>>720281139
If you combine this one with his Zelda seethe thread from yesterday, he has been having a meltdown for over 24 hours now

>>720281172
Sounds like you got raped, Eric ;)

>>720281224
Just a heads up, the long posts aren't Eric. That's not his style so don't go calling everyone that.
Nowadays you can tell when he's around specifically because he'll just spam "you lost and got raped" over and over to try and make himself look like a boogeyman.

That said these anons
>>720280415
>>720281078
Are clearly the same guy.

>>720281224
No, you are the one having meltdown because now you are beginning to spam one of your falseflag phrases, you well-poisoning, Brazilian anti-Nintendo glowie.

>>720281353
Eric is a boogeyman made up by a Brazilian anti-Nintendo glowie.
All of the "You lost, Eric" spam posts are from the Brazilian anti-Nintendo glowie.

>>720281374
>>720281483
>>720281353
Eric, nobody is falling for that snoytranny cope

>>720281520
Are you scared of the next 3D Mario?

>>720281657
Paulineposter, you've been told this countless times: Yes, Eric did falseflag as him a few times, but the anti-Eric spammer is NOT Eric.

>>720281745
Are there two Erics?
One of them being a fake Eric from the Brazilian's anti-Nintendo Discord server, who assumed the identity of the real Eric?

>>720281830
ACsnoytranny exists

>>720281830
The Macaco and Eric are different posters yes.

>>720281745
Truth nuke.
Let's be honest, that's just Eric desperately false flagging.
Why else would he get mad at people spamming his dogshit threads with messages about him being raped?

>>720281890
Armored Core Arthur?
There's the Brazilian guy, Armored Core Arthur, and Eric?
Is Eric a fake Eric, or is the real Eric being psychologically groomed by the Brazilian anti-Nintendo glowie?

I'm starting to think this is the natural result of what happens when a company degrades in quality over time. All of the normal fans gradually leave and only the die hard retards with no sense remain. It's why modern sonic fans are the way they are. The same process happened there and now we're seeing it happen to Nintendo.

>>720282027
Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?

>>720282027
"This" being... ?

>>720282086
Enough anti-Nintendo glowing from you, Mr. M.

>>720282027
>All of the normal fans gradually leave and only the die hard retards with no sense remain.
It's not really the same with Nintendo because no one stays with Nintendo. That's why they always tend to wax and wane in terms of sales and whatnot.

Basically Nintendo is the only company with people who stick with them just for the quality.

>>720282179
>no one stays with Nintendo. That's why they always tend to wax and wane in terms of sales and whatnot.

Kek what?

>>720282147
Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?

>>720282443
So are you arguing that the gamecube and Wii U sold more than the ps2 and ps4 just because they manage their money better?

>>720282443
Making money =/= tons of sales you retard.
Let me guess, you also use revenue to defend Sony too.

>>720282550
No I'm arguing that Nintendo have ALWAYS been successful.

Kids who grew up playing Nintendo now have kids of their own and play together as families.

The outlier is the teens and young men as this anon noted >>720274118

>>720282669
>No I'm arguing that Nintendo have ALWAYS been successful.
No one said that they weren't. You're reading things that no one said.
The point was that people tend to come and go with Nintendo based on their output which results in inconsistent sales numbers which is true.
Compare that to Sony where every system they've ever made has crossed the 80m mark with exception to the Vita which they themselves crashed.

None of this has anything to do with success or profit, that's a completely different matter that can be influenced by products outside of their games.