Thread 720304143

If you can't tell why this is the greatest invention in gaming, you're a fucking idiot.

>>720304143 (OP)
I dont even know what that is

Go away.

>>720304262
The gaming equivalent of audiophile equipment

>>720304262
Hardware emulation box called mister vgpa.

>>720304143 (OP)
>>720304262

Looks like a gamecube nintendo

>>720304143 (OP)
>no ps2 emulation
>pre emptive frames are free
YAAAAAAAWN
saged
reported for spam
/thread
/fivepbp

for me, it's my cheap retro handheld

>>720304143 (OP)
what's the OS on this piece of crap? some linux shit?

>>720304325
I don't know which is worse, the spamming fag(s) or the ones that give them so much attention that they make an entire profile on them. Probably the former, but this shit really just enables them more than anything else.

>no fast forward
>no save states
KEK. buy a motherfucking ad faggot literally no one gives a shit about your garbage. use a pc like a normal person

>>720305001
>>720304983
>>720304567
>>720304490
>>720304409
>>720304325
>>720304262
I am having a FUCKING blast while playing HARDWARE ACCURATE Saturn emulation on my MiSTer. Software emulation kiddies don't know what they're missing out on.

>>720304361
Why?
I mean unless it is emulating PS4 games, its pointless. Shit like snes games can all run on a toaster or a potato and PS1-3 gens dont even need that powerful hardware outside of some specific PS3 games.

>>720305001
Definitely the spammer. Digging through the archive doesn't require months of constantly posting the same shit over and over.

>>720305090
just get a fenrir for 50 bucks

>>720304325
the funniest part about this dude is that he switches from "WHAT ARE YOU POOR" to "ONLY WHITE MEN CAN ENJOY THIS" real fast when his threads flop

>>720304143 (OP)
Buy a fucking ad you nigger.

>>720305305
Why would anyone dig through the archives in search of some random fag's shit opinion(s)?

>>720305579
To expose the spamming faggot.
What the fuck are you even on about, retard?

>>720304262
It's a finger box

>>720305886
That's not even remotely important and to expend energy on that is suprememly gay

>>720304143 (OP)
A digital only game cube?

>>720305980
Neither is arguing with me about it yet you are still doing it.

>>720304143 (OP)
I use emulators to develop software for old hardware for fun, and this box is completely useless in terms of debugging tools and breakpoints and all that.
And it is not precise enough to 100% claim that it would work on the real hardware.
Hence, it is useless.
It's MUDA.

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

>>720305090
>HARDWARE ACCURATE
No its not.
It's a partial recreation of the functionality of the sega saturn, created with incomplete documentation and guesswork.
It's like a polystation of the saturn.

>>720304325
I didn't know the mister shill was also these other guys. Jesus fuck. Why does this site have so many autists making daily threads?
>would rather dedicate 2 years of his life to shitting on this emulator instead of getting help with the settings (or just moving on)
>now he shills this device daily (probably not getting paid)
for what fucking purpose???? What is the point of these threads? This isn't normal.

>>720304143 (OP)
If the MiSTER can't even do NES 100% precise, why would it do anything 100% precise?

>>720306253
It's far more accurate than the best software emulators, has zero recorded issues, and the only emulator to pass scsptest with 100% accuracy

Cope more. N64 is essentially perfect as well as it uses info from the verilog leak

>>720307427
>more accurate
>essentially
So they're imperfect, got it.

>>720307427
Not buying it.

>>720306253
It's like 99.9999999% accurate and the only Saturn emulator to have perfect audio/video sync and zero latency

>>720304325
>cares this much about lag and "hardware accuracy" to the degree of insanity
>refuses to use original hardware
>can literally just buy a working ps3 for $50 on ebay

>>720307840
First, you're obviously pulling this number out of your ass.
Secondly, it's not hardware accurate.
This claim is reserved for something that has a 1:1 copy of all logic gates of the original chips, AND analog part, which is not the case of MiSTER.

Third, say if i were a cenobite with a particular kink for programming to the sega saturn, and used the MiSTER to make a sega saturn game with 3D graphics and dual CPU usage and all that. Will the game run on the first try on the real hardware for sure, or will i have to drag you to hell?

>>720305090
nice

>MiSTer MDcore passes every single test of the most intensive MD accuracy test except one
>the most accurate software emulators out there, BlastEm and Nuked, both have 3-5 failures each depending on version
Software emu bros.... it's over...

>>720305068
die casual

>>720304143 (OP)
If you are enjoying it so much then why are you acting so insecure by asking these types of questions on 4chan?

>>720307227
>retard watches some dumbfuck zoomer youtube video 3 literal days ago
>thinks he's an expert
many such cases!

>>720308267
Oh no not the accuracy tests

>>720304358
damn almost considered just blindly buying it becuase of this thread. thanks for the heads up

>>720307227
Original hardware got 114/125, the test is a sham made by a retard

>LED screen
>Mouse+Keyboard
>ZSNES launched
>AA filters enabled
>Load state pressed
Yup, it's gaming time.

>>720308657
So why MiSter don't got 114 tests if its a 1:1 copy of the original NES as claimed by the OP and others?

>>720305090
What if I don't give a flying fuck how hardware accurate my gaming session is?

>>720305090
>HARDWARE ACCURATE
No such thing. You're either emulating or playing on original console.

Misters are overpriced, you will have a better argument once the MisterPi becomes more available. I have one just so I can connect my PC to my CRT TV, I know about emudriver but I already have a 7800 XT and I'm not about to swap over to Nvidia just to play PC games on a CRT TV.

>>720308978
Just fucking buy a MiSTer already. Please.

Lmao this is just hardware for midwits who are too poor to afford the original consoles and too retarded to set up retroarch.

>>720307061
It's advertising.

>>720308381
nah fuck you, I played enough native hardware growing up, not using fast forward is fucking stupid if you're not a neet

>>720309097
Ordering one now

>>720309160
so just gonna ignore the save states part, huh?
guess even you found it indefensible

>>720308939
The test is dogshit as hardware revisions, hardware manufacturers, or just natural aging all cause failures. It's not a good test.

>>720309198
Do the needful saar

>>720309031
Holy shit you losers are so pathetic. Just buy a fucking cheap chinese hdmi to rca and job done.
I swear this board is just a training dump for zoomer to lie on the internet. It's a platform for their parallel universe fantasies where they're actually competent and interesting. Biggest losers on the planet.

>>720309097
I like it for the PC connection and I also use it to try out games from systems I know I'm not going to buy. Sure I can emulate on my PC but might as well get the most out of it.
This is me >>720309031

>>720309546
I am still not buying the MiSTer.

>>720308978
You don't.
Emulation has three states.
Fucked up, "Existing software perfect" and Perfect
First category is where say NO$MSX is. it will not load all games you can get on the internet correctly, some games will just break on it.

Second category, is where BlueMSX is. ANY game you toss at will run flawlessly, but it is only perfect on the context of "every existing game works". anything out of the scope of the software released to it is in an undefined state, for example, it don't take in account if the disk drive motor is turned on or not.

Last category is probably not real on MSX, but OpenMSX is the closest, as it is made by testing real MSX hardware and documenting every quirk and having super precise cycle accurate emulation modes. This one will toss a shitfit if you try to read data without turning the motor on.
For the uses of running existing games, there is literally no difference between emulators on the second and third categories.

>>720309610
Learn to read retard, maybe that's the first step to stop being such a loser.

>>720309546
I tried that and every single one I got was shit. Find me one that isn't shit since you're so certain about yourself.

>>720309716
Umad?

>>720304143 (OP)
Feels good not to have a level of debilitating autism that causes me to spend 250$ for chinese chinkslop hardware emulators(that aren't even 100% accurate) because I don't have mental breakdowns using software instead.

>>720309762
Literally any one will do. It's not some hard future technology, it's the most basic shit. I now doubt you even own a crt even.

>>720309891
>Literally any one will do
I already tried quite a few and like I said they're shit. Come on man, stop being a loser and prove me wrong.

>>720309891
I use one (pic related) and i'm satisfied with it but its full of quirks.
>1280x720 only (all other resolutions are a lie made with shit bilinear up/downscaling)
>no 240p (it will accept super resolution of 3840x240, but as i stated above, it's a lie)
>has a slight flicker even when you do everything right
And by everything right i mean you have to set it to 1280x720, use vertical integer scaling of 672p (overscan makes it fit perfectly vertically), do sharp bilinear to deal with the horizontal scrunching you get from the 1180 that is left from the overscan.
And apply very slight vertical and horizontal blurs to remove some random ass flicker from the thing.

>>720304143 (OP)
buy an ad
buy a rope
kill yourself

>>720308571
that's the point of fpga emulation

>>720304143 (OP)
>the shadows now flicker ever 1/120th frame instead of 1/110th frame of course its worth the $700 you fucking idiot

>>720310336
This means that i HAVE to use retroarch to get a good picture out of this box, and pic related is as sharp as it will ever be.

>>720309231
its a feature we've had for free for decades. a feature you're paying $400+ to NOT have

>>720305090
>>720307840
Imagine spending $400 to play Saturn games with only ALMOST accurate results.

>>720311043
It's completely indecipherable from original hardware in every way

The JAMMA version is pure sex
Completely indistinguishable from $3000 PCBs

>>720311043
japanese saturn is like 100 bucks and the new fenrir is 50 bucks
of course, you can just emu on your pc for free and i dont see why you wouldnt, just buy a saturn usb controller
these clowns are insane

>>720312163
>just buy all the original consoles
>and all the original controllers
>and all the everdrives for each one
>and a RetroTink 4k
>and RGB mod each one
>this is totally cheaper than a $200 SS One or clone board
You are the whole circus

>>720307061
>Why does the most well known anonymous image board attract people predisposed to engaging with information and opinions without the burden of social aspects?

>>720306091
>every post that's not mine is one person

>>720305148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjYmSniQyM Watch the video. I agree with you, but devil's advocate position is that 100% hardware emulation/close it means you can't cheat when speedrunning or playing the game. Some emulators don't bother with taking all aspects of the hardware, which leaves some behavior to be different enough for very niche applications like cheating or speedrunning. For the average user like me, it's pointless. The video I linked goes into autistic detail, while you might dismiss it as NES who cares; it becomes exponentially more complex with each generation afterwards for accurate emulation. People with 100% accuracy emulation should be applauded for going towards those lengths.

>>720304262
Raspberrypi enclosure.

>>720313051
People can cheat even on original hardware making your whole point useless.

>>720312604
oh no for 100 bucks your saturn comes with the cables and a controllers of course, loose ones are cheaper
>and a RetroTink 4k
why would you buy a CRT console and then play on a modern display? theres 0 point to this, god forbid if you do this with the mister after shelling out hundreds of dollars for it, at that point some emu is more accurate because it can replicate dithering through shaders

>>720313243
And that's why The King of Kong documentary was made. And "i liked that jump" keeps being brought up as legendary moments of cheating.

>>720310846
ir you want sharp why the fuck are you using a CRT for?

>>720304143 (OP)
>Loses to many emulators in NES accuracy tests, one of which is abandoned and discontinued
>You can just download those for free
>Even Mesen runs fine on generic Android devices
>NO! You're the idiot. YOU!!!
Source: https://youtu.be/oYjYmSniQyM?t=807

>>720304262
Snake oil.

>>720312604
You don't buy all consoles, you just buy the console that you will have to deal with a mad karateka man that will judo flip you into a bomb if you don't.
Also while saturn emulation is not perfect, its mostly good enough now.

>>720313326
MiSTer allows you to do both flawlessly with zero lag

>>720304262
Same.

>>720311473
It's a big purple turd that looks nothing like a saturn.

Okay MiSteR people, how it would help me in this specific situation?
Why should i stop using OpenMSX to get a MiSTER (instead of say an MSX2 Sony F1XD) to do the same job?

>>720314075
theres no point connecting to a modern display
the visuals being wrong is a deal breaker if you want accuracy
so you are left with a crt, in which case you have 0 reason to not use an actual saturn since it is cheaper

>>720309369
So why is it different from NES results?

>>720308382
OP can't answer, fucking destroyed

Mister posting is just the new generation of Raspberry Pi posting, just more obnoxious thanks to the added layer of superiority that comes with the higher price point and FPGA.

I don’t own a MiSTer but in 5-10 years it’ll likely be the best way to play anything before the Dreamcast.

I own one Analogue product and it impressed me. I mostly game on modded original hardware but that’s largely because I like playing off the actual cartridge.

People who argue it’s the same as software emulation are wrong. People who say there’s no difference are also wrong, In the few examples where saftware emulators are better, they’re also missing the point. The cores will continue to get closer to perfect. The benefits of having your own box with flexible I/O are huge.

Honestly what puzzles me the most are the people who endlessly complaint about it. I just assume they’re really, really retarded or baiting.

Watch any video on this piece of shit.
>errrmm so that game has problems but heh who would play this
>and this game has lot of problems but the developers say they are working on it
>and in this game the shadows don't work and the transparency is broken but the gameplay is solid and it's all about the gameplay

Trash wtf.

>>720315114
>I don’t own a MiSTer but in 5-10 years it’ll likely be the best way to play anything before the Dreamcast.
It will still be software emulators because of shaders and well, being free

>>720315201
My favorite feature of fpga is apparently it is an accurate representation of the hardware so it is not emulation but for some reasosn it constantly needs updates and new cores.

>>720305090
>I am having a FUCKING blast while playing HARDWARE ACCURATE Saturn emulation on my MiSTer.
>posts on /v/
no you ain't

>>720307427
more accurate is not hardware accurate

>>720315340
It is "hardware", but so is the polystation.
Both are a list of gates that more or less represent the NES (and other systems).

>>720315201
works on my machine

>>720315114
>The cores will continue to get closer to perfect.
Yeah it's crazy that all emulator developers just vanished out of thin air and emulators wont also continue to get closer to perfect. Oh wait.

How the FUCK does a company lose the knowledge to produce their own products? Not even manufacturing, outright lost technology that leaves them unable to procure an inhouse digital copy.
What the hell?

>>720313823
That's a shit test. Even original hardware failed 10+ items. Also mesen on high end PC and mesen on mobile are very different, run the test and see how much worse it is. Plus mobile will have worse performance and way more video and audio latency, all of which this also doesn't test.

Hell, even mesen retroarch core is only 100/125

The major selling point of this thing that nobody ever talks about for some reason is that it doesn't make you choose between input lag or screen tearing. It just perfectly syncs to your display with no lag like a real console does. It's a huge deal for displays you don't have access to freesync on, like TVs and arcade monitors

>>720316235
The ceiling is higher with FPGA chips. With no software layer to cut to they will reach a point software emulation cannot.

>>720304143 (OP)
can I put my dick in it?

>>720316551
I mean technically yeah

>>720316484
FGPAs are hard capped by the number of LUTs and clock speed.
PCs you just can toss more processing power at the problem.

>>720304143 (OP)
raspberry pi wasn't even made for gaming

>>720305373
Sounds like a bad dragon product, gay boy.

>>720316662
It's not a raspberry pi dumbass

>>720304143 (OP)
>shill trying to convince me I shouldn't just connect my PC to the TV again

>>720316732
what is it?

>>720304325
What compels people to do this?

>>720316776
>literally can't even read four posts into the thread
embarrassing

I don't even know what I'm looking at but assuming it's one of those dime a dozen emulation boxes - why the fuck would I need one over just playing on my PC?

>>720316827
>but assuming it's one of those dime a dozen emulation boxes
incorrect

>>720316869
It is literally an emulation box, it just does it on a slightly-lower-than-software level.

>>720316940
you are literally admitting you were wrong in your own post

>>720304262
Its people who cant run a software emulator coping

>>720316993
It's okay mistershill, one day you will figure out how imageboards work and how multiple people can post at once.

>>720304143 (OP)
Why not just buy the console? It's pretty cheap

I don't know why this shit has to get everyone assmad all the time

Use a software emulator
Use an FPGA
Use the actual hardware

who gives a fuck they all offer their own experiences

>>720317102
>buy one console and a flash cart
or
>buy one unit and get the same experience for like 20 consoles for the price of one

>>720317102
Why not just emulate on the computer you already have?

>>720317212
This is a thread about users, not hardware.

>>720317212
Because it greatly upsets OP when people don't want to buy his product and so he keeps remaking this thread and self-bumping

>>720304143 (OP)
I think I'll just emulate on my PC instead, mr Shekelberg.

>>720317678
>just buy a $1000 gayman PC instead of a $200 FPGA goy

>>720317398
>mom found the speaker slug

>>720317734
What are you using to make this post?

>>720317619
That doesn't even make sense, plenty of people sell Misters he's not even providing a link to one. Especially now because as it has been pointed out earlier in this thread, there are now much cheaper variants of it that do the exact samething.

>>720317836
My android iphone

MiSTer is meant as an alternative to original hardware or original hardware + everdrives + RGB mods. In that sense, it's a total no-brainer. It's identical to original hardware in accuracy and latency, but far cheaper and with more features and enhancements.

Even compared to emulation, it's a great alternative if you want a portable and powerful box that doesn't compromise on performance, latency, or accuracy. Or if you want pain-free, flawless usage with CRTs or original hardware OEM controllers.

I don't know why it makes poorfags seethe so hard

>>720318071
You can play SNES games on those.

>>720318192
Original hardware fags implicitly don't care about emulators. They could have switched over years ago, but haven't. They use it for irrational reasons, not practical ones. Mister and other emulators have no value to them.

>>720317870
Then why does he keep making daily threads? He should be enjoying his games. Why does he have such personal stakes to what regular people think about this?

>>720304143 (OP)
r e d d i t

>>720318591
>why do people talk about things they're interested in on the internet?

>>720318719
OP is just talking to himself. And everyone else is talking about what a schizo he is.

>>720318904
nice selective reading

>>720319054
So you gonna keep talking to me or are you gonna have your intellectual conversation with OP?

>>720318904
>call a crazy person crazy
>WOOOOW HOW COULD I HAVE KNOWN HE WAS ACTUALLY BONKERS

>>720319221
>namefag

spambot

>100% accurate to original hardware
That's literally impossible. Only the original device can be 100% accurate. Otherwise it wouldn't be called an emulator.

>>720304143 (OP)
These posts surely fall under "advertising/begging"
You shitty overpriced autist box is completely unnecessary, a PC can do everything it does barring some extremely minor obscure details.

>>720314676
I know you're a baiting mongoloid but
>So why is it different from NES results?
there is no "NES results"
every NES gives different results is the problem you retard