Thread 720320829

>exposes half of /v/ for being geriatric boomers with no reflexes
Never before has a game caused so much seething over its difficulty.

No one /here/ has said it's hard. Just that it's bad.

>>720320829 (OP)
It's kinda shit.

>>720320906
>I'm not bad the game's just designed in a way that challenges me specifically

>>720320829 (OP)
the only shit boss is the girl that throws discs and puts spikes in the ground. took me like 60 tries, i beat every other boss in less than 5

>>720320829 (OP)
It was made and playtested by people in their 40s, retard.

>>720320961
I finished the game in 12 hours it was boring dogshit just like the first one. I'm glad I pirated it rather than paid money

>>720320829 (OP)
I fucking hate this game FUCK YOU

>>720321615
ant sexo

>>720321591
>Finished the game in 12 hours
Not without a guide you didn't

>>720320829 (OP)
u didnt finish it anon.

>>720322172
>wahh I'm retarded so everyone else is too
I'd be the person writing thr guide not (YOU) the person reading it.

>>720320829 (OP)
>>720321615
If this bug is immortal how does it die?

>>720320829 (OP)
Exposes virgins for thinking a 2 hour game thats padded by needless runbacks and wasting hours to learn a dance to beat a boss makes a good game

>>720320829 (OP)
9 years of development to create this boring rehash without doing anytrhing about basic problems like contact damage and runbacks is quite pathetic for TC.

It's actually sad because this is supposed to be the most highly regarded platformer yet it highlights more than anything the fundamental design problems with 2D games. They are really a dated medium and should be left to the past.

But the drones that defend it are just annoying but expected, it's all the same with children without life goals that see games as a proving ground.

>>720322298
What's the lore reason for Hornet reviving at benches when she dies?

>>720322405
Your second statement doesn't connect with the first one at all.

>>720322435
dunno, but her father is known to have the ability of prescience, so it's probably that

>>720320906
>gaslighting this hard
ask me how I know that you are from california

Silksong is a another case of a sequel to a game (Hollow Knight) which the developers didn't understand why people loved.

They think it is the sweaty platforming as in white palace and the late tryhard bossfights but in reality it was everything that came before that.

Silksong is just a high difficulty DLC to Hollow Knight and it was a mistake to sell it as a new game. There is nothing new in Silksong.

>>720322578
I'm from the east coast. I live in the PNW now though so close enough.

>>720320829 (OP)
/v/ said only zoomers play this game though??

when's the supposed difficulty?
so far it's fun. but i also don't have hollow knight all too freshly in memory so i probably don't compare it too much.
also can't believe people getting filtered by the diagonal pogo.

>>720321615
Skill issue, should've went left instead of right when she did her big boner dash, ant milf will respect your personal space if your respect hers and smack her back when she gets too close

>>720321591
bro you probably missed like 40% of the game at least

>>720323187
actually a good idea, I just realized the way she jumps up is different depending on which move she will do in the air

>>720323134
Lace 1 is one of the easiest bosses in the game.
Generally people first have a problem with Moorwing or Savage Beastfly.
First real difficult boss is at the end of Act 1.
>>720321615
Probably should have been looking for a way to get out of the corner instead of deeper into it. Generally safer to cross the arena during the spikes.

>>720321615
This looks so fucking unfun I'm glad I dropped this game at act 2 after the Troubie fight

>>720323516
>First real difficult boss is at the end of Act 1.
alright, that's what i wanted to hear. if anyone would have complained about the "bosses" i've seen so far i would have lost all faith.
Time to go fast before they nerf the bosses.

>>720323590
>dropped
You mean "got filtered by"

>>720323516
>Generally people first have a problem with Moorwing or Savage Beastfly.
Moorwing was fun for me. Took me about 8 or so tries, and I refused to let that other warrior help me because I didn't want to let him get hurt.
The Savage Beastfly took me about three hours of trying, but that's probably because I played right after work instead of sleeping and coming back to the game rested.

>>720323676
Sounds like something a faggot would say

>>720322640
Silksong picks up where Hollow Knight put it down. It just makes sense as a sequel. Sequels shouldn't pretend that the player doesn't know how to play the game.

>>720323616
People also complain about Hunter's March which is an easy area to get lost in early even though it's an Act 2 difficulty area.

>>720321615
You had like 2 chances to mid-air heal, especially when she does the dash attack with the spines.

>>720320829 (OP)
Even ongbal said it was hard and he beat Elden Ring, Sekiro, Lies of P, and all of the Souls games with ease

>>720322640
Why is it ok when every other game series does this but suddenly damn silksong is too similar to hollow knight.

Quit fucking complaining you are legit embarrassing yourself

>>720321615
Why is every bipedal bug a woman?
Did the artist transition?

>>720324334
In what way is Silksong similar to Hollow Knight?

>>720320829 (OP)
so is there a second bench to skip the blasted steps runback?

>>720324391
ummm did you just assume their gender? gross

>>720320829 (OP)
Well shit, if the game didn't take 8 years to come out, I'd still be in my thirties, and Last Judge wouldn't have taken me 34 tries to finally beat. It's not my fault I have oldman reactions now. It'll happen to you to, kid.
I ain't seething, though. It's just gonna take me longer to beat.

>>720324431
Anon saying nothing is new is saying it changed nothing from hollow knight to it.

>>720324284
>Game with a vastly different playstyle to 3D Souls and Soulslikes is harder for people who primarily play them
Not to say Silksong isn't hard, but it's not exactly kaizo tier.

>>720324537
What? No it doesn't. If they take away functional mechanics there is still nothing new in the game despite the changes.

>>720320829 (OP)
I just did the platforming section to get to the top of the Cog Hearts and yeah I fucking felt my age then I'll tell you that.

>>720320829 (OP)
Maybe hindsight is clouding my perception of this game's difficulty but I don't think it's as difficult people are making it out to be. I've yet to beat the game, but the last boss that genuinely gave me a tough time was the Widow. Double damage and the diagonal down swing on the platforming is giving me more trouble than the bosses.
HK was tougher.

I will forever assume detractors are impaired retards getting filtered by the difficulty. Git gud scrubs.

>>720320829 (OP)
I actually think the older people are more likely to be the ones not having problems with it as it's not really a reflex based game and they're more likely to have experienced the trendy hard platformers that went out of vogue years ago, as opposed to younger gamers who only know difficulty from Soulslikes where grinding is always an option.

>>720324475
Reaction times barely slow because of age. Training, experience, and belief matters way more. Some of the fastest reaction times in the world, in various precision sports, have been demonstrated by people in their 40s or older.

>>720324445
Please let it be so. The runback is godawful, especially when you endure it only to be raped by the boss.

>>720325728
use reaper crest, its easy to pogo with it.
sadly it has lower DEEPS
you can survive easier tho

>>720324445
Closest one is the one by the bellway, so if you already have that one then no
I suppose there's also the Sands of Karak bench but I very much doubt you're able to get to that if you can't beat the Judge.

This game rules

Finally, another game's come out. Been ages.

>>720320829 (OP)
Anyone got a clue where I can find Conchflies and Slubberlugs in Act 2? So far they were only part of bossfights (Enraged Conchfly and that fat cook in Bilewater) and I've never seen them in the field.

Finished Act1 with no extra masks. When does it actually get impossibly hard?

Is there anything to the right, at the top of Mt Fay? Can't be assed going back up.

>>720320829 (OP)
i'm playing hollow knight 1 and it is still hard

>>720326461
No, the roof of the Slag is blocked by giant fuckoff spikes.

>>720320829 (OP)
>boomers
Metroidvanias are mostly played by boomers retarded zoomer

>>720321591
No, you didn't. The first "ending" is a fakeout and you wouldn't have a clue where to go to get to act 3 and beyond. Have you asked yourself why you're so mentally ill, or does self-awareness elude you?

>>720324445
Its a 60 second runback.
Use it as time to reflect on yourself

>>720326461
Whats the deal with the maskmaker up in mount fray?

>>720327641
he's the target of a delivery quest
you can also charge attack him for a bunch of lore

>>720327641
Delivery quest and returning character from the first game.

>>720320829 (OP)
Why do half the enemies not drop money?
Why are there way fewer ancient relics than HK?
Why do the bosses drop nothing?

It's not that hard, I still think some of the megaman zero games were more difficult

>>720327734
Are any delivery quests worthwhile aside from the one for the pale oil?
>>720327752
Huh, guess it's been a while because i dont remember him at all from the first game.

>>720326461
You missed a flea somewhere, but not where you're asking about.

>>720320829 (OP)
my favorite games are sekiro and nine sols
silksong's difficulty is objectively the bad sort - sometimes
overall it's a solid game, but yeah, so many of my deaths felt cheap

>>720320829 (OP)
We lost /v/ to RPG fags who have no skill and prefer menus.

Are you telling me I have to do the whole plateforming section every time I attempt the boss?

>>720326314
Slubberlugs have a dedicated painful cheep cheep corridor in Bilewater, Conchflies appear in a true endgame battle

>>720328110
blasted steps bench is way better, rest there

>>720328110
It's much less bad if you take the bottom path

>>720328163
I can't use it because there is a plateforme blocking the way

>>720328250
platform
there should be a spike on the ceiling that makes a shortcut

>>720328250
There's a stalactite you were supposed to break above that line to open a gap through it

>>720328297
>>720328301
Fuck me.

Don't worry, zoomers. It'll happen to you too.

>>720328134
Oooh shit you're right, the fucking Cheep Cheep bridge corridor. I heard people cry about Coral Tower in Act 3, so I guess that's everything for the Hunter Journal covered, thanks anon.

>>720320829 (OP)
It's not about having reflexes, it's about understanding boss patterns and executing the fights properly. After 3-4 deaths to Lace 2nd fight I could kill her without getting it.

>>720322172
Dude could have just rushed it and got the basic bitch ending instead of the true ending

>>720328359
No, I assume you're getting drilled by the boss enough already.

>metric ton of Hornet porn
>no porn of Karmelita
faggots

I KNOW WHAT YOU WERE. WHAT YOU ARE. BOSSES DON'T CHANGE, YOU'RE SAVAGE BEASTFLY. And Savage Beastfly I can handle just fine, BUT SAVAGE BEASTFLY WITH LAVA AND ADDS IS LIKE NIGHTMARE KING GRIMM WITH A SILKSHOT.

Act 2 completed.
Bad ending obtained.
No way I'm doing 20 MMO sidequests for the oppurtunity to fight more shitty arena gauntlets against dozens of explosive projectile throwing assholes playing a constant game of keepaway.

>>720328476
Hornet has been around for like 8 years.

Genuinely curious why people are always so concerned with calling it "skill issue" instead of just being a bad design. Most of the enemies aren't even fun or interesting to fight. You literally stand still and wait for your turn to jump over them or smack them. Being aggressive just leads to you taking a hit which is nearly always 2 damage even from some of the weakest enemies in the game lmfao. There's no real challenge, just a test of patience. Time wasting bullshit like runbacks, benches being scattered too far apart, too many maze-like areas with enemies stuffed in every screen and typically areas too small to even truly move around in (tunnels, etc).

I am playing and beating bosses just fine. Enemies just fine, etc. That doesn't mean it isn't badly designed, boring, bullshit that just makes me roll my eyes for the 100th time as I take 4 damage from some gay move.

>>720328610
>Being aggressive just leads to you taking a hit
That's how we know you're bad.

>>720327792
Non sentient mobs have no reason to have money

>>720328676
You can believe me or not, I play aggressively and know when to be passive or watchful for moves. But it's just a truth. If you play too aggressively and make even a simple mistake, you're going to get fucked and take 2+ damage. Not only 2 damage, you have barely any recovery/invul frames after taking a hit so you'll probably just get hit again anyway.

And also, a lot of bosses have adds in them and it fucking sucks. The screen is filled with so much bullshit you are actually trapped sometimes. Can't move this way or that because you have to be dodging a move, but doing that dodge forces you into the next attack of the add, or the "floor is lava" because there's spikes, crawler enemies, etc. It's just an annoyance.

Not a skill test, a test of willpower to see if you'll get so bored you have brain death before finishing the game. Hollow Knight 1 was much more "fair" with its difficulty, and general gameplay. Silksong really needs some tweaks to be a gem.

>>720328610
That's not how I play. You need to get better at the game. You and I are playing different games

>>720328610
>You literally stand still and wait for your turn to jump over them or smack them
Only you do that
Also stop taking damage

>>720320829 (OP)
One thing half of /v/ still doesn't understand is that it's entirely possible to beat a section of a game on your first try and still find it difficult. Or rather, that "wanting rewards is for dopamine-fueled zoomers" is pure fallacy. One of the principles of game design (games in general, not just video games) is to LITERALLY reward the player for their effort. Only a MASOCHIST RETARDED likes to suffer for no reason.

A metroidvania with such artificial difficulty that it gives you 2 damage for simply exploring and rewards you with rosary beads (useless, since you can farm) is objectively bad game design; there's no point in even discussing it.

>>720328610
Git gud though.

>>720329105
There is nothing that difficult in Silksong though.
Your argument only works when you pretend its the hardest game to ever exist while its barely passable.
Silksong is not even top 5 hardest popular title in its own metroidvania genre, or Souls genre, or any of them.

>>720329105
The game does reward you. You just don't think the rewards are enough. In act 2 the rewards get MUCH better. Keep playing and you'll be rewarded

>>720329105
it follows the classic design of 3 lives, with some weak enemies giving half damage
it works quite well

>>720329105
Winning is the reward

>>720323676
faggots defending legit shit design with the same thing every time

>once upon a time people craved for difficult games, now they crave for game journalist mode
What changed between 2011 and 2025? Are zoomers simply bitch-made compared to millennials?

>>720329969
>people crave a DS1 like experience of hard, but fair
>get delivered DS2 aka an amateurish turd
why do people not want hard games now? ask yourself why you enjoy it you turdgobbler

>>720330141
Why are zoomers like this?

>>720329969
The academic approach to game design and domestication of art in triple A productions has bred a type of gamer who expects to be compensated for tasks and time they invest in a videogame. It will take some time to make these retards unlearn, but now's the best time while AAA is reeling.

>>720329969
I think most people weren't expecting a sequel to actually behave like sequel and start its difficulty curve where Hollow Knight left off. If the marketing was more upfront in saying "this game is designed for people who have considerable experience with its predecessor", there might have been less backlash.

>>720330141
The average beat em up is harder than Silksong

>>720321615
That looked really fucking slow man. OP is right.

>>720330268
who said anything about it being hard? is DS2 hard? no its just designed like shit and unfun.

>>720330479
>man
I am a woman

>>720329227
>Your argument only works when you pretend its the hardest game to ever exist while its barely passable.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I said it's entirely possible to beat a section of a game on your first try and still find it difficult. How does that apply to what you're answering?

>>720329282
>The game does reward you. You just don't think the rewards are enough. In act 2 the rewards get MUCH better. Keep playing and you'll be rewarded
I've already finished the game, and I have no idea what rewards you're talking about.

>>720329462
>it follows the classic design of 3 lives, with some weak enemies giving half damage
This is one of the strangest arguments I've ever come across to defend 2 damage, that said: you still get punished severely for exploring.

>>720329679
>Winning is the reward
So, how about going back to the Pantheon? That makes no sense at all, wtf. Bro, you want me to smile after exploring an entire area, finding nothing useful, but having "beaten" the wave/boss? Seriously?

Is Bilewater necessary at all? I might just say fuck this area and start grabbing the songs and beat the game.

>>720331635
If you want to get to act 3

>>720331736
Is act 3 basically for 100%ing? I think I just want to beat the game now and then come 100% it in a few months or something and just say fuck act 3. The experience in the Citadel has been pleasant but going back to Bilewater (I entered act 2 the back way) has just been ass. I thought it would be less ass with double jump and harpoon but it turns out it's just designed around having all of that and dealing with the rest of the area's bullshit.

>>720331912
>Is act 3 basically for 100%ing?
Yes, you can beat the game without it

>>720331912
>Is act 3 basically for 100%ing?
You can reach one of the endings without act 3 but others require it

>>720331635
you can get a charm to resist the maggot water, and that charm is not in bilewater
just say fuck it and come back later when you have it

>>720332015
You have to get through Bilewater to get to act 3 at all though? It's not that I don't think I can do it if I have to, I just don't want to if I don't have to. I think it's the weakest area in the game.

>>720332178
Yes you have to go through aidswater to be able to reach act 3

>>720330660
What do you mean? it was the best one out of the series and that's not even a debate

>>720323134
Widow was the first boss to give me trouble. Last Judge after. Then it will be like every two bosses and a third of the gauntlet rooms until you beat the game.

I'm terrible at games. I don't think I'd be able to beat Dark Souls or Hollow Knight without a guide and a full calendar year to give it a shot. I'm that fucking bad. I think something might seriously be wrong with me.

>>720329969
Trends change. In the Arcade games and up to NES games were hard to either pad the length of time you owned them or to eat your quarters. At this time and into the SNES, PS1, and PS2 era finishing your games went from a novelty to a demand and the sense of "accomplishment" at finishing a game was a demanded part of the experience. After 3 and a half gens of easy games trending, Demon's and Dark Souls bucked that trend and people started demanding more difficult games again. I can't pinpoint WHY the trend is changing again, but it's been happening since a little after Elden Ring released and we're having people want easy games again.

>>720335972
It’s cause most modern players grew up in the post-tutorial handholding era where the dopamine hit comes not from overcoming a challenge, but from constant feedback loops and unlocks. Games shifted from being trials of skill to curated theme park experiences. Elden Ring brought back that trial-by-fire structure, but even then it gave people open routes to avoid challenges. Now devs see the numbers and go “oh, people liked the freedom, not the hardship,” and we’re back to making games for everyone’s grandma. Just wait, in five years “friction gameplay” will be the hot new buzzword again and some dude with a flannel will claim they invented it.

>>720329969
>game on the left actually requires some level of dexterity
>game on the right can be beaten by a 90 year old man with Parkinson's
Not the best example mate

tranny game for trannies

this whole
>lets throw a ton of enemies at you in a small area
is gettin tiring

>>720320829 (OP)
Boss fights aren't my problem, it's the runbacks and shitty platforming. Developers fell too in love with the goofy bouncing diagonal shit, it's corny as fuck

>>720329969
dark souls is cool. tranny cartoon bugs are not

>>720337117
>he doesn't know
Play the game. Or don't

>>720322405
>yet it highlights more than anything the fundamental design problems with 2D games
zoomer FOMOcel exposed lol

>>720337223
I shan't

puttin more than 2 enemies with rng to their 3-4 abilities makes for artificial difficulty bud

>>720337117
Wow you're complaining super early if you haven't found any of the other movesets. Diagonal bounce is only an issue for the opening of the game.

Bilewater is pure cancer.

I think some bosses have too much health. It makes it more tedious than hard.

>>720321615
>retard runs straight to the ant saw attack
Nah u r just mentally impaired

>>720337347
What do you mean, it's a core platforming mechanic of the game, it's complete shit and it gets really old really fast

>>720337413
everybody complaining about boss health is without a fail not using tools and definitely not using silk skills (stop getting hit all the time)

>>720337626
>core platforming mechanic that can be replaced after an hour of gameplay
Zoomers are so fucking grim

how do I improve my reflexes?

>>720337626
You get different movesets that have different attacks they do when you do a down air attack. Most of them are far more forgiving than the starting moveset's. You still have to bounce on stuff, but you can do so with the vertical bounce from the first game or an even more forgiving wide area bounce.

>>720337784
Can't. It's over for you.
t. 34 years old.

>>720337819
I might be retarded then. I never bothered with any of the other crests I've acquired, I just thought the movesets were universally worse so I went back to the default

>>720337708
I see. I'll give it a go. The controls for tools is awkward as hell.

>>720321615
You had time to move to the left, retard.

>>720337519
Wow nothing gets past you, huh?

get rid of body blockin doin 2 points of damage what the fuck is wrong with team cherry

>>720337117
I died once to what I think is the first boss the big bug that you have to free with the lance/javelin, and quit once I realised how far I'd have to walk back

>>720320829 (OP)
You brain dead zoomies don't know what a good game is. You just consoom. This game isn't hard, it's pure shit. Plain and simple. Yiu faggots will start calling it out in a month once the novelty has worn off.

>>720337117
bosses are fine
its this tiny arena fights where they think puttin waves of dudes against you is supposed to be fun and challenging when in fact its tedious and annoying with how the enemies react to everything from last minute projectile tracking and body blocking you in a matter of seconds

>just use le tools
thats the problem. balancing around fuckin tools when theres a god damn limit

>>720338134
Fucking lmao
This very well may be bait but in case it's not I'm glad secondaries are learning a valuable lesson about not bandwagoning on a game just because their favourite streamer plays it

>>720325086
I will forever assume bug knobslobbers are useless NEETs with no actual purpose in life so they use video games as a means of feeling accomplished. Git a life scrubs.

>>720320829 (OP)
>soulsfaggot rhetoric
All I need to know that a game is trash

>>720331204
Shut up and consoom the FOTM game. Do not criticize the FOTM game.

>>720338298
nah it will be the opposite, all criticism will melt away and contrarians will look stupid as fuck

so where is the second moorwing fight?
I despawned the thing when I moved with the fleas, and now don quixote is bugged out offering me aid against a foe that isn't there.

>>720325086
So when I finish the game and still think it's a 7/10 at best and worse than Hollow Knight what happens then?

Kek, a jarpig that acts like it's a hardcore 2D side scrolling game, but it doesn’t even have a proper scoring system. You can just spam the best move without consequences, and it's somehow still considered difficult. Honestly, I'm speechless. The gaming community is full of real life losers trying to win in the virtual world and still failing, even though that virtual world already holds their hand

>>720339157
He was just randomly in the room above the fleas one time later when I was going back through it

>>720321591
It physically isn't possible to actually "finish" the game in 12 hours. Not only did you not play the game, you came here to lie about it to hide the fact you're a seething bitch.

>>720339258
it means you got filtered

>>720320906
Filtered Lmao!

>>720339415
But I'll have beat it so you can't use that particular buzzword

>>720339326
Why do you think there are so many trannies in gaming communities? They need this fake internet cred to feel better

Defeating a boss is literally the reward itself why do I need the boss to give me easily and quickly farmable rosaries or some slop tool that I'll never use because hitting bosses with the nail is more fun anyway. I did the whole game to 100% completion just using the nail and never used a tool or ability even once.

>>720339386
>it's not possible to finish the game in 12 hours
>speedrun is only an hour
Why are you lying on the internet

Id never play an indie metroidvania friend.

>>720339557
The filter in this case is people with good taste.

>>720320829 (OP)
Rayman Legends is much difficult than this

>>720339638
>hammer? grug no need hammer
>grug like rock so grug use rock only

>>720339850
The only non-indie metroidvanias worth a damn are Zero Mission, SotN, and Lost Crown. Enjoy your three games while I play well over a dozen.

>>720339850
cool blog, how do i unsubscribe

>>720321615
You're not being aerial enough.
Staying on top of her and jumping from wall to wall is very effective.

>>720323134
The game hits harder.
But healing is far easier and more effective than in Hollow Knight.
And you're also far faster.

I genuinely think the game is easier.
The moment to moment gameplay is more engaging, which I'd argue is more fun. But for better or worse it is easier.
So I'm surprised so many people are claiming it's more difficult.

Honestly I don't see the hard in it. It's challenging sure but it's not that much harder than the OG. I don't get the Hunter's March seething. I'd say that Crystal Peak and PoP in the og were much harder. The bosses seem a lot easier to me. You can defeat most of them by literally standing still and waiting for their obscenely telegraphed attacks to end then dash in and tap them a couple of times. It's almost a rythm game.

>>720340393
Exactly. Hornet's increase in power over the knight is greater than the increase in power the enemies have gotten over their hollow knight counterparts, so the game is in fact easier.

how the FUCK do I fix the sinner's road bench??

>>720340926
secret wall somewhere in the room

>>720340926
shit is a lot more trouble than it's worth, but there's a wall you can smack for some platforming "fun"

>>720340926
Wall near the ceiling on the top left can be broken. It's completely unmarked

Shakra-appreciation-post

>>720321615
god this fight is so good. I can't wait for a boss rematch mode

>>720321615
She's pretty tough but that's my favorite fight in the whole game so far. The pacing is just right.

>>720321615
her fight was great but her 3rd phase for some reason having shorter and smaller vulnerability windows on the same exact moveset felt bad
the fuck do you mean my bounce attack during her spin dance to the side only works on the 2 frames after it finishes now instead of the whole time shes in motion? i can see her fucking head still. why can't i damage her all of a sudden doing the exact same thing i did for two phases.

>>720321615
I love pogo:ing on her head across the entire screen as she dances.
But then I kind of won before I really got that part down properly. Would have loved to just re-enter the memory and re-fight her. Would have done so again and again until I learned to do it without getting hit like I did with Shakra.

>>720341606
how the fuck do you fight her? Is it too late in act 3?

>>720342281
that's why I didn't cheese her with tools, I really wanted to savor the fight

>>720320829 (OP)
>exposes half of /v/ for being geriatric boomers with no reflexes
True
>Never before has a game caused so much seething over its difficulty.
Not true, /v/ seethes whenever a moderately popular and difficult game comes out. Elden Ring threads were unbelievable

>>720342297
>Is it too late in act 3?
It is. The time for fun and games is over. And Shakra needs to rise to be a protector and hero which is a full time job.

>>720321615
I saw at least 3 different opportunities to heal in that clip

>>720342397
man that's fucking gay that there's an actually important missable

I FUCKING DID IT /v/!!! NOW I CAN MOVE ONTO PEAKSONG!!

>>720320829 (OP)
It has to be some kind of viral marketing stunt right? The game is simply not that hard. Like if you've ever played a mega man game or Celeste there's no way you should be complaining about this game's difficulty.

>>720342481
>dream no more ending
Oh anon, how do I say this….

You got the “I’m a little bitch” ending. You haven’t truly beaten the game unless you beat the godseeker trials…

Will DLC further villainize or redeem granny-silk?
Or will it ignore her?

>>720320829 (OP)
Tryhardism comes from insecurity, doing this shit just displays how pathetic you are.

>>720342646
I'm more interested in where/what possible type of new bug for the next game if any

Imagine what they could do with an actual bruisers like ants or crabs

>>720342481
Don't listen to this bitch >>720342589 the godmaster stuff sucks absolute ass and you aren't missing anything

Hornet would absolutely wreck Hollow Knight if she was actually added as a DLC character. She is too powerful. Agile. Especially if she got to keep her Silksong heal.

But the Knight in Silksong could actually work some slight tweaks/new movement options to assist in traversal across the world, couldn't it?
I mean Wanderer and Shaman are pretty much Knight movesets already. Granted that Hornet is much faster than the Knight ever was.

Then again. I don't really feel like Silksong needs alternate player character DLC. And adding the Knight to Silksong as a playable character might rob Silksong some of its unique identity instead of further reinforcing it as its own game/sequel.
But I can't lie. It would be kind of cool. I'm not really expecting it. But maybe?

>>720343541
Knight could already traverse the place with the crystal dash. You can cancel out of it straight into a double jump and dash, so all the horizontal stuff you chain together with Hornet can get very easily trivialised.

>>720343612
Yeah. But what about vertical movement? Or all of the curving paths where you float and weave while platforming?
Then again I am sure the Knight could jut take entirely alternate paths for most of them.

>>720343845
If there's a wall then all that needs to be done is to reach it and crystal dash. Crystal Dash wins every time.

>>720340393
I would say it's probably because the difficulty curve is all over the place.

>die to boss
>long platforming section just to get back to the arena
No seriously what were they thinking.
>just don't die then
You try beating every boss on the first time you find them only being able to take 3 hits (actually less if they tackle you and you get stuck in their model)

>>720344213
>No seriously what were they thinking.
That platforming is fun? I much prefer some fun platforming on the way back than to just run. Unironically.

>>720344213
if you can retry the boss instantly then there's no punishment for failure, therefore no tension in the fight itself, therefore no gratification upon winning

>>720344364
Sure it's fun and I'm not having any issue pogoing on things diagonally, it's just that this basically makes platforming half of the boss fight and that feels like ass. Even the final boss is like this. In fact I'd rather have every boss get 2x HP but with a bench right outside their arena.

>>720320829 (OP)
It really did, people were actually spamming the comfy threads with blacked, bestiality and actual child porn. This silly bug game made people here completely buttblasted for some reason.

>>720344652
>if I can beat it and have fun with it, nobody can either
The game is fantastic and is even more so for filtering all the no-gamers that thought this was gonna be a flavor of the month game that required no skill or critical thinking

The salt is incredible. If you can't handle losing, stop playing hard games. You're not going to win every fight first time, and bosses like the ant bitch are for people who are ok with learning and improving until they get it.

SILKSEETHERS WON
SILKSEETHERS WON
SILKSEETHERS WON
SILKSEETHERS WON
https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1965415647279493184?t=YSaYoVBqNU1xn7cNLU_7Qw

>>720344490
>gratification from winning
Funny thing is I don't think I ever got this feeling from any of the hard segments in this game. Only the feeling of
>k, that's done

>>720342949
Team cherry picking said that hollow knight saga is over after salt song

behold the superior metroidvania

>>720330710
with an adam's apple, lol

>>720344972
>getting your news from retard twitter instead of the actual steam post
jesus christ, please kill yourself

>>720344490
this is incorrect, there are plenty of games with instant retries that manage to be tense like furi and worldless. the punishment for failure is you have to restart the boss fight.

>>720324284
>person who doesn't play platformers thinks a platformer is hard

>>720345308
>twitter post has the actual steam post in it
sorry i don't spend my time hanging out on the steam forums, you fucking nerd

>>720345308
cope yourself

>>720345408
>furi
This game was fun. It also shat on players playing easy mode kek.

>>720344972
This post is advertising or begging btw

>>720337117
>corny as fuck
Stick to something your own speed Jamal, like 2k or e33

>>720345154
I can't take that shit seriously.
Laugh at it but hollow knight has a serious and epic story, that just looks like a flash joke game.
Also I doubt it's better that hollow knight as it's an impeccable metroidvania in all regards.

>>720343541
>Hornet would absolutely wreck Hollow Knight if she was actually added as a DLC character.
Really? Cause I’m 10 minutes into the game right now and I can’t help but think how ez to traverse this game as the knight would be

>>720344972
>more rosaries for doing the courier quests
>2 forgettable bosses made even easier
>bug fixes
Journalist xisters we're gonna make it to act 2!!!!

>>720345654
>Cause I’m 10 minutes into the game
I mean yeah. Because you haven't seen any areas the Knight wouldn't be able to cross.

>>720345654
Forget it, you probably know more than me

You guys can be full of yourselves all you want. Ill be waiting for the actual full game when the beta test ends, and ill be enjoying it then while youre crying about how "your" game was "ruined"

Imagine reaching graymore and and not realizing how unfinished this game really is

Sand of Karak platforming is cancer, is there a way to skip that shit before fighting the second drill bug

im not gonna play super meatboy/VVVVV for a privilege(?) to save

>>720345814
it is called greymoor, retarded FUCK

The Bees of Hallownest or the Ants of Pharloom? Choose wisely anons

>>720345814
WDYM unfinished?
You call a game unfinished just because it's too hard for you?
Literally the only bugs i've encountered while playing this game are the NPCs.

>>720320829 (OP)
For me it was the shitters complaining about diagonal hopping

>>720346053
Think that's just anon coping. Game is pretty much a complete package though it does suffer from questionable game design decisions. Whether intentional or not, that's not the point of that anon's ranting.

>>720345770
Well as long as you recognize your mistake

Why don't the bosses have health bars? Are the devs so far up their own asses that it's to "gamey" for them?

>>720346284
He really doesn't know what to say to justify he being so bad at it.
Is silksong perfect? No, it really has some mistakes. But compared to the average AAA game of late and considering the pricetag, this is a god send.

The bugs in pharloom have got some serious talent in the vocals department

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HGh0VzpjcE
I can't stop listening to this

>>720345814
As much as things change, they stay the same. Saltroons like yourself make actually beating this excellent game feel even better. You should try megaman x.

>>720346958
I beat megaman X and it is nowhere as difficult as salt song is.

>>720347073
Yeah that's point retard

>>720347135
>Yeah that's point retard
GOOD MORNING SAR

>>720345637
it's delusional to call it better than hk but it's a quality game if you can get past the story being unserious and some of the humor being dated

>>720346935
It's one of the best tracks in the game. I got kind of sick of it though because I farm rosaries in the citadel.

>>720346497
>god send
It's just another generic millennial shit game that hides the actual difficulty until the later parts. You're forced to sit through two hours of boredom before you get to the actual gameplay. Even random doujinge are better, since most of them follow arcade style rules
Also, the default settings suck. The game feels incredibly heavy with input lag (expected from unity junk), yet they default it to borderless window + vsync on like, what the fuck?? No wonder people get filtered by the controls alone

>>720347680
First time someone has complained about default setting like this isn't a universal problem. I've played dogshit games that don't give you a title screen on first load, and lock you out of the menu for an hour until you're done with the tutorial, with the default settings being mouse-locked fullscreen and music so loud you'd go deaf. This doesn't detract from the game unless you're an autist who spends hours messing with settings in an emulator only to quit 5 minutes into gameplay because you can't make it look exactly the way you want.

>>720347680
Yes, as I said, not perfect, but I can see it becoming a classic, just like HK is. Not perfect thought. My point was mainly about the price and also the context of the industry right now.
>hides the actual difficulty until the later parts
Actually, for most people it started getting hard after the third or fourth boss. Heck, some people got filtered by the bell beast.

>>720337146
Cartoon bugs are insanely cool. You might just be a faggot.

>>720329105
notice how no one even tried to defend the worst criticisms you put out

>tfw 45yo boomer and this game doesn't feel any harder than a full run of NES Punch-Out!!
Sure, I die but I'll 100% it like any other game. Always felt it crazy that /v/irgins start a game they seemingly like then quit. Brother, no video game is hard enough to not get good and win. Not a zoomer issue, lots of you contemporaries of mine also suck at games.

>>720338541
Lotta words to say you suck. Strange post but you do you sis.

Perfect game
Controls are tight, mobility and combat are excellent. I feel like what happens on the screen is a 1:1 expression of my skill rather than a mess of rng and jank. The soundtrack is great, yhe atmosphere is perfectly cultivated. Areas are unique and numerous. There are a fuckton of different enemies instead of godrick soldiers with different tunics per area. There's content out the ass. Anyone whining is a fucking scrub who should stick to pokemon.

>>720329105
Ok but game is still good and no refunds :^^^)))

>>720348606
>perfect game
No.
>tight controls
Not completely considering there are start up frames to certain attacks, momentum with dashing, and a few other quirks.

>>720348530
It simply ain't worth the effort. At my age I know when the reward is not worth it.

>>720342589
Fuck off. That's bullshit and you know it.
Beat The Radiance, you beat the game.

>>720320829 (OP)
If they don't lower the difficulty until the end of this week I'm suing Team Cherry for ageism. They have 48 hours.

>>720320829 (OP)
>>exposes half of /v/ for being geriatric boomers with no reflexes
It has been known since doon eternal days

>>720342589
DLC shit is always non canon lil bro

>>720320829 (OP)
>exposes half of /v/ for being geriatric boomers with no reflexes
>Never before has a game caused so much seething over its difficulty.
This is literally a common occurrence over the past years
>Sekiro
>DOOM Eternal
>Elden Ring
>Expedition 33
/v/ is filled with loser millenials that seethe all day at the fact of being old but not having money like gen x or boomers

>>720344581
Do people really bother with the diagonal strike?
It was sorta fun but I found Reaper Crest and haven't looked back. Still Act1 though.

>>720342589
>You haven’t truly beaten the game unless you beat the godseeker trials…
Stop.

>>720348916
And you will be worse, zoom zoom :^)

>>720320829 (OP)
it's crazy because it's actually pretty easy. I have no idea why this one is exposing people, lots of people must be playing this who otherwise never play games that don't play themselves

>>720348981
It's the only down attack for the starter crest so you either use it or get fucked until you find another one. My only complaint about it is it doesn't go all the way until making contact with the ground. So many damn times I use it and it'll stop short of hitting whatever I'm aiming at because it was a bit too far resulting in taking environmental damage or failing to pogo off an enemy.

>>720345637
Guacamelee and it's sequel are rock solid games and arguably have better combat than HK and SS. The comedy can be dumb but the games are fun.
I prefer the bug games for art and vibes but Guacamelee 2 in coop feels like an illegal amount of fun.

>>720320829 (OP)
The combat is fine and I think HK's relativy simple moveset is what makes it do satisfying to play. I'm just getting tired of the increasingly large areas with multiple hidden secrets that give you plates rewards. The game's great but the more it goes on the more boring it gets. Felt the same way about Elden Ring. But I still give SS a solid 9/10 so far. I'm just starting to feel burnout so taking longer breaks between picking it up now.

>>720342481
I went from beating the radiance to jobbing to the fucking bell beast. What the fuck is this?

>>720323134
Update: i have beaten the two bosses mentioned in the upcoming patch and widow.
i conclude everyone complaining is a whiny little bitch.
sister splinter was the first boss to actually kill me a few times. and the training wheels are definitely starting to come off. but so far it is a fun and fair challenge.
People act like this is a kaizo rom hack.

>>720340393
yeah, the fact you can also heal midair is really great and gives you some great windows to heal when the boss just makes the ground unsafe for a second or two.

>>720320829 (OP)
Its just frustrating as fuck, the actual difficulty can be managed but the fucking runbacks, everything dealing double damage and just in general a fuck you attitude for almost every area after act 2 make it really frustrating, you can't even sit at a fucking bench after act 2 without expecting some sort of fucking trap to go off or some shit or spending more rosaries even though every fucking thing you find out there requires like 500-800 of them to buy

>>720349296
You went from being OP to being a weakling and gotta relearn everything.

>>720349334
You’re very early days yet.

>>720349162
Will try if I ever convince a friend to play with me.
Sadly, all my autistic friends are obsessed about non-vidya stuff.

>>720349231
>HK's relativy simple moveset is what makes it do satisfying to play
Yeah, Hollow Knight is the perfet ammount of simple combat but the responsive controls and enemies moveset makes it really satisfying to play.

If I'm honest, I wouldn;t say I dislike Silksong, but I can't help but think Team Cherry didn;t take the Hollow Knight franchise in the right direction, they doubled down on the flaws of the first instead of learning from them,

>>720349334
>People act like this is a kaizo rom hack
If it was a kaizo rom hack nobody would complain because only stupid fucks play those.

>>720342426
I haven't hit act 3 yet, but if her ring on the post is still outside bellheart you might be able to fight her still.

>>720349296
Welcome to silksong bitch. Happened to me too.
Worse thing is that, bell beast is piss easy compared to what awaits you.
Yeah, IDK how team cherry did it, but at first glance the game seems the same as hollow knight with just diagonal pogo, but it's not, and seems like you really need to learn again how to play.

>>720349119
Yeah I guess. You can farm up Travellers Crest early but I didn't know that.
I just can't understand using Hunter after finding Reaper in Greymoor. Greymoor doesn't seem that far in really.

>>720338541
>I will forever assume bug knobslobbers are useless NEETs with no actual purpose in life so they use video games as a means of feeling accomplished.
Well of fucking course. What else would you expect?
This is our hobby. If you're some kind of normalfag, but are you even playing videogames or being on /v/ for?

What's the deal with the Cilantro meme?

>>720321053
Really? She's not even that bad. Apparently she gets wrecked by the tacs too, although I didn't even need to resort to that

so you're telling me the bestiary in lost verdania is missable once you kill the dancers?

>>720349748
No it autofills it all apparently

The strangest thing about people complaining about the difficulty is the fact that the game is easier than Hollow Knight was.

It's crazy to look at HK after Silksong since the latter is so much more polished

Fuck anons, I ran I to an oversight I don't think most people are aware is possible. I warped out after The Unravelled before breaking the wall to the underworks. Now, the door has locked above The Unravelled arena and there is a small area of the map completely locked from both sides. There's a Psalm Cylindar down there that is impossible for me to get to now. Please tell me it's not required for 100% file completion...

>>720338541
it's called a hobby you cuck

>>720337784
exercise, go outside more, learn to ride a motorcycle

>>720346468
Because health bars are a shitty feature

>>720321615
Use your harpoon to engage, nigga

>>720320906
It is hard though.

>>720350452
dumbest idea ever

This Moorwing nigger is making me feel like I'm playing Peach in the sweatest game of Melee ever

>>720349910
oh good, i didnt even bother to check, it does. i was gonna shit myself.

>>720350491
Well I'm not the one dying because he can't DOOOODGE

>>720350557
Don't worry anon, it gets worse.

>>720349296
Meanwhile I went from repeatedly failing Hollow Knight's third pantheon for days on end, to 100%ing Silksong without much issue.
I wonder why I suck so much at Hollow Knight while I'm not really struggling at all with Silksong.

>>720350557
Get the dude to fight with you

>>720350643
well you're gonna die if you use your harpoon when you get to her

The beast trying to break open the caged wall in Far Fields, how do you get him out? There's a flea over that way too.

>>720350743
There's a secret path at the Bell Beast terminal for that area.

>>720350792
Almost forgot, DON'T open the gate once you get to the other side or else it'll run away and you won't have another chance to kill it.

Why are people saying Groal is hard? I beat him without taking a single hit.

Should I bash my head against grand mother silk while cursed until I get it or just copy save to file 2 and come back to it whenever I feel like?

>>720348061
Being junky is not the same as straight giving you another input lag from option for no reason despite your game is already laggy
>>720348126
I mean, the price is standard for an indie game in fact, it's on the expensive side. The industry is always a 50-50 sometimes you get a good game, sometimes you don’t. I just don't understand why people treat it like a unique gift from god and think it deserves all this hype, when it's really just a standard game. Even their previous game wasn’t as hyped as silksong

>>720321591
You beat the tutorial in 12 hours you mean kek

>>720321591
Based beyond belief

alright im gettin tired "room full of flying projectile spammin waves of enemies" rooms. thats the only way im gettin padded out is because of the bullshit that compiles all the tedious bullshit wrong with a game like this.

this doesn't belong ina metroidvania. its a retarded "LE DIFFICULTY" hard game disguised as a metroidvania for troon faggots to act superior to people that "master" the game who like to gaslight everyone that its really just a skill issue, and they themselves are beyond god levels at being good at a videogame.

fuck team cherry.

>>720348916
the difficulty in those games are fair and its warranted.
this game is a IWBTG and volgar the vikings level of tedious slop.

>>720350858
Honestly not that hard. She has a really limited moveset.

>>720350937
>Should I use my hookshot to dash into the flying enemies and pogo them?
>Should I use one of my silk abilities, the first of which is a long horizontal line attack to kill it in one or two hits?
>Should I use my multiple ranged tools?

>No, I should bitch on /v/.

why did so many people complain about savage beastfly when it was literally two attacks? did they forget they have tools to take out the projectile fags?

>>720350838
>and you won't have another chance to kill it
you will.
open the pilgrim store and break the door lock. later on the beast will get inside and wreck the place

>>720350838
wrong and im tired of shitters asserting this because they cant explore

How do I get this flea in the Underworks? I can't find a passage to get to him

>>720351012
this is the shit that gets me, it's like nobody is using what the game gives them for some reason.

>>720351026
that's based, the owner deserves to die for charging for using his bench.

>>720351012
>hookshot to dash and pogo enemies
they have pot heads
>should i use my abilities
i need it to heal. the bombs deal 3 masks worth of damage. i need it. the trek to get to this room takes a lot more effort
>should i use my ranged tools
yeah about that. i ran out. because gettin shards takes forever naturally

>>720320829 (OP)
This game will absolutely get big nerfs in the coming days. The High Halls gank is ridiculous, it's harder than Trial of the Fool and it's a mandatory story fight.
>5 waves of late game enemies
>including tons of flying ones spamming projectiles and input read dodging away
>including silk stealing flying enemies
>finally fight the boss
>3 more waves
>same boss but two of them
It's just retarded. Even Dark Souls 2 was never so cheap.

>>720350858
>>720350998
Of course the very next attempt after I complain I get it

>>720350838
>>720351026
Do you need 2 kills of it to get the hunter journal entry?

>>720351120
You're supposed to get help for the fight. I did Shakra's storyline and she helped me beat it. I did it first try too

>>720351023
the flying enemy spawning rng. dont you understand?

>has double jump
>hook
>silk invuln dash
just shut up man

>>720351090
Go through Wisp Thicket.

>>720351183
weird. that place feels natural for progression so most people aren't exploring enough to trigger those weird quests on the way.

nothing about what you mention to make that easy is natural unless you are fuckin off for hours reading guides.

>>720351120
>it's harder than Trial of the Fool
It's not. They don't even take away your floor.
Coral Tower is closer. They DO take away your floor in that one.

>>720351098
>Pot heads
Just bait them into flying above you and spam up attacks.

>>720351186
you could've had it during this fight if you wanted fag

>>720351304
>just manipulate rng
>while 2 other guys are on your ass
>make sure to hit the bomb away
>oops you hit the bomb too close get 3 mask damage

sounds easy on paper. but doing this in darkness is easier said than done

>>720351120
You have multiple potential allies that are meant to help you there. I got the knight fellow, but I'm sure you can get the Sentinel and Shakra.

>>720351258
>nothing about what you mention to make that easy is natural unless you are fuckin off for hours reading guides.
Fucking LMAO this is the EXACT same excuse people were using in Wuchang threads. I wasn't beelining the story. I'd unlock stuff and go back to earlier zones because I remembered there was stuff I couldn't access before. I saw the glints on the quest boards and did those. I came across NPC's that gave me quests where I needed items that I had to explore to find. I wanted to do absolutely everything I could think of before I progressed the story which is what I do in every single game.

>>720351338
gettin souls flashbacks
>just uh ring music box for gascoin man its easy

>>720351098
80 shards costs 50 rosaries retard, i use my tools liberally and just buy 5 stacks each time i'm near a shop that sells them. you guys seriously just want there to be problems, it's never fucking enough with your people.

>>720351120
i beat this while cursed, stfu

>can't have all 3 silkshots even with cheat
oh no

>>720351358
when are you supposed to even come across help? that area is probably the easiest to get to right after the hookshot unlock.

i had to ask where to go from a friend and he told me to go to mount fay for the double jump.

i dont know how people are naturally runnin into npcs to trigger that.

>>720351183
i did shakra's quest literally 20 hours after i beat the forum

>>720351173
yeah, you get 2 total, one in the shop/gates and another in the citadel later

>>720351386
wuchang is way linear than this game that tells you where to go
dont even bring up wuchang actually. that game is littered with npcs in your way to talk to. you cannot fuck that up at all.

>just read the questboard hehe
yeah backtarck to every town i guess. who knew they were gonna update those after you progressed, right?

again, thats not natural progression. thats just
>hey make sure to 100% everyzone again every so often

how do the fucking silk hearts work or whatever they're called
for the entire game since literally the first second of gameplay i have regenerated up to anywhere from 1 to 4 silk. it changes randomly all the time.

>>720351358
Who is Sentinel?

Also, where do I find the Green Prince NPC again, I freed him in Sinner's but never came across him again, I assume he's a boss?

I went through the entire blight area and got all the way to the mist and only found the area for the map bitch at the end but I can't reach it without double jump.

I'm so fucking tired of this. I need to collect the three thingies for the citadel. How quickly can I just speedrun double jump? The game feels like I should have had it hours ago with every enemy being a flying faggot that backs up as you get close.

>>720350065
>I warped out
not an intended mechanic. stop doing this. you should have learned your lesson after the abyss in the first game.

>>720350937
Him if only you had a grabble to close distance or some soft of strong reliable projectiles hmmm curious

>>720351353
There's nothing RNG about them, they're retardedly aggressive.
https://streamable.com/62npdv

>>720351550
yeah flyin enemies are the gayest aids imagineable. people complained about estus input reading in souls games but these flying enemies are such fuckin cancer

this shit only worked in metroidvanias because they weren't erratic as fuck and/or you had ways of easily dealing them. and also not having 8 hit tank bullshit

>>720328110
There's a red red cone you can break above the bridge to make a shorcut

>>720351550
you are correct in that you should have gotten it hours ago. it's pretty much the first thing you are meant to do in act 2

>>720351526
You will regenerate up to 1/2/3 ticks of silk only if you currently have less than that.
It really doesn't do much except make it so you're never totally empty so you can always pull out the Clawline or Needolin.

>>720321615
>you have to dodge two projectiles
This is the "super hard" game you guys have been telling me about?

>>720351526
one generated per upgrade, the circle things on crest UI, so 3 at max, and one pip generated per hit with nail

>>720351394
yeah? if you're having trouble, do the thing that makes it easier dumbass

>>720351510
>you cannot fuck that up at all.
You apparently weren't in the threads because people bitched non-stop about it.
>yeah backtarck to every town i guess. who knew they were gonna update those after you progressed, right?
Well, yeah. I get a movement upgrade and you gotta take the bell beast to get somewhere. Once you see one thing happens, you should think "huh, I wonder what else might be new in other areas"
>again, thats not natural progression.
How is it not natural? It's natural to me because I do this in every single game where you have the ability to travel to different areas. You never know when there's gonna be something new you can discover. Maybe if you played less games that hold your hand the entire time, you'd know this

>>720351574
hmm man yeah maybe let me try that
>oops get body blocked because lol your hitbox is fuckin huge
yeah man oh shit let me deal with all these flying enemies that can shoot projectiles
its just that easy anon. why didn't i think of that LOL hmmm
let me guess, use my tools and silk abilities too? hahah!

>>720350065
just load the previous save

>>720351621
So do I just go back to the main story or do one of the specific items I need gives me double jump?

>>720351436
Sentinel is a robot you put a clockwork heart in (get it from three bell puzzles).

Knight guy is chilling in the Citadel, he's the one riding the beetle. He ended up staying at the sanctuary.

Shakra stays in Belhart.

What is the point of the Beast crest? It has less slots, no blue so no fractured mask or poison fun, and the weirdest down attack of them all.

>>720351630
then why did i regen up to 1 tick at the very start of the game? my first silk heart brought the regen cap up to 2. second silk heart did absolutely nothing. third silk heart brought it to 4. occasionally it will only go up to 3, after a couple screen it's back to 4.

>>720351621
quit bullshitting.
>the first thing you do in act 2!
lmao theres a lot of shit you have to do before you even get double jump you little faggot.

>>720351550
>How quickly can I just speedrun double jump?
If you already beat the dancers, go all the way to the right from their arena, there's a white key on the floor. Now go back to the start of Choral Halls, there's a door leading to White Ward, which then takes you to the eastern part of Underworks, the hot area, you get the hookshot there, no bosses, easy pick. Then you just to the mountain for the double jump, again no bosses, but tough platforming,. The mountain is to the west of the Slab (the prison) which is to the west of Choral Halls.

>>720321615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw4pHkHqaVc
guide for you

>>720328476
I'm like30 hours in and havent seen her, it's like internet is flooded with complaints about last judge runback and not by the people complaining about bilewater runback, I know about the bench, it still suck

oh jesus fucking christ

>>720351698
You're supposed to be able to regenerate health by attacking with it, but since its moveset is pure fucking cancer, you usually just lose more health with it.

>>720351770
>he is uninformed

>>720351770
>he didn't find the bench
should have one shotted that boss like i did

>>720320829 (OP)
>exposes indie devs as dogshit unable to build bigger audience

>>720351770
There is an extra bench, but it still sucks.

>>720351494
How long before the shop one comes back and wrecks everything?

For the record, it's 9 memory lockets used not 10 like someone said in yesterday's thread. One of the best upgrades in the game. You now have 3 blue slots so you can have faster heal, poison and skull all at once.

>>720351665
the npcs literally had you say where they were on the damn shrine teleport.

this game is not a metroidvania brother. this shit was tested by 8 dweebs in a bubble who forgot what they were making a game for over 7 years sniffing their own farts.

>>720351698
It does more dmg and regens hearts while in bind mode. If you put heavy belt and regen enough silk you get to enter it often and shred everything, it the closest to face tanking you get in this game.

>>720351738
Alright thanks. I got the claw thing and did the slab. I'll go get my double jump now.

>>720351739
>wanderer crest
he didnt beat it

>>720351827
I think you inhale yours a bit too much

>>720320829 (OP)
I find it hilarious that despite all the complaints here, streamers and vtubers are both steadily progressing through the game without any major hiccups.
"People" here are literally worse than women and DSP.

>Sands of Karak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXRJBK8oJSA
Fuck this place.

>>720349002
Why is that loli sad?

>>720351843
Watch this video for the mountain. It's tough platforming on a very tight time limit (you die from cold if you stall even just a bit).
https://old.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1navs73/spoilers_how_to_climb_mount_fay/
Yeah, because Path of Pain wasn't hard enough, now we need a time limit.

At least you get cold immunity once you grab the double jump, so you can re-explore in peace.

>>720351949
Couldn't beat the pantheons.

>>720351826
Wait you need to spend the Mem. Lockets for Eva???
I'm exclusively using Hunter so I'm not using them.

>>720351541
The NPC you revive with the Cogcore. You can meet her in several places in the citadel.

>>720351958
>wait before you play the game look at this reddit guide
kill yourself.

>>720352118
Yeah I maxed out Hunter, Reaper and Wanderer, at which point the vesticrest unlocked. The fuck you're hoarding the lockets for? They have no other use.

>you get literally nothing for beating Shakra in a duel
Well, that sucks.

>>720351958
>old.reddit.com
Can't believe people are still using that

>>720352229
you will get nothing and be happy

>>720352209
>Yeah I maxed out Hunter, Reaper and Wanderer
That can't be it because I maxed those crests and started putting memory lockets in Beasts and I still didn't unlock the second Vesticrest.

>>720351670
Haha yea why would you ever use the games mechanics so fuckin cringe

>>720352287
I also had the Architect crest, so maybe that mattes too. Basically, I had 5 crests, 3 of of which were maxed out.

>>720352287
wow you surely deserve the full reward for maxing 3 out of 7 crests, are you retarded

>>720352229
you get to experience a cool boss, a duel with your friend
why is everything should be about physical rewards

I can't read architect crest without immediately thinking of Pierce Brosnan, this site ruined me

>>720352378
That's not the full reward you double retard.
The full reward is like Salubra in HK. If you know you know.

>>720352473
fill those slots up honey

>>720352473
I'm thinking mostly about Gurren Lagann and ROW ROW, I'm good

I just lost 1500 beads because of contact damage.

Are there any missable hunter's journal entries? I'm seeing that if you don't farm the enemies in the memories, you're fucked.

>>720351958
Imagine being so shit at the game that you need to look up a reddit post to be able to press the clawline button when you are at the same elevation as the clawline hook points/a wall.

I can't even imagine how shitters like you managed to get past Path of Pain which is like 20 times harder.

>>720352575
Report them to HR asap, this can be counted as sexual harassments.

>>720352575
Do people REALLY lose beads? Just quit out retard, it puts back on the bench.

And if you don't want to for some reason, you literally get summoner's candles from Nioh to call your cocoon to you.

>>720352575
Sucks but that's like ten minutes of farming also spend your money while you got it. Most I ever lost was like 600 because there's always something to spend your money on.

ZAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>720352670
I'm farming beads specifically because all of this shit costs 300-700 beads at the end of act 2.

>>720351665
NTA but normally in Metroidvanias you see the way you can't access yet, and know specifically to come back to it later (if you remember). That's how the original Hollow Knight was, although it did have NPC quests that appeared arbitrarily and are more similar to what you're describing. Maybe that's because of the Dark Souls influence, because Miyazaki also loves doing that and reached his apotheosis with it in Elden Ring.

>>720352636
God, the *loses 200 beads* silksong currency *loses 350 beads* system really fucking *loses 1500 beads* SUCKS

>>720320829 (OP)
Not difficulty.
Weird design decisions and bad progression. Also it's too goddamn big.

>get the double jump
>now I have to double jump literally every time I want to float
this is a downgrade? wish float was a separate button

>>720351826
use double heal, not skull
skull protects you from what, 2 damage at most? double heal will be +1 each time

>>720352378
I was talking about expanding the Vesticrest, not Eva herself you double nigger

>>720352773
you will long z tap z hold z to float and you will like it

>>720320829 (OP)
>>exposes half of /v/ for being geriatric boomers with no reflexes
I wish half of /v/ was oldfag. It's just third worlders and zoomers here

>>720352773
You can down+jump to float without double jump
And that control is getting removed in the next patch

>>720352773
You can still down+jump to float but they're patching that out next week

>>720352839
You're not on the beta branch already? Too many quest fixes to not use it IMO, unless you're a tendie lol

>>720329969
The bosses in Dark Souls is not exactly hard to parse, with some even using the environment to your advantage. It was the terrain that was the #1 killer next to mob ambushes.

Sinner's or Blasted the meta to pick in order to finish with Act 1?

>>720352898
Just don't be a pussy and do The Last Judge + her meme runback, like everyone else.

>>720352801
>>720352495
yes you pedantic, illiterate retard. why do you think you should get the LAST vesticrest for less than half of the fucking slots unlocked? i have a problem with you saying "that can't be it" after making such a retarded assumption that you deserve it now.

>>720352898
both are same time
sinners into mist is harder to execute but no real prep or anything to memorize
for blasted for it to be same time as mist you need to skip moorwing and do 5 fleas to get to bellhart

>>720352971
The LAST reward is Eva herself you fucking retard.

>>720320906
it is hard

>>720352627
>I can't even imagine how shitters like you managed to get past Path of Pain
These retarded fucks are saying it's somehow HARDER than Path of Pain. It's no wonder when even that shitty reddit "guide" plays like dogshit. They still have their fucking cocoon on the climb and don't even collect it.

>>720352998
>synthetic wife and ghost wife
hornet harem inc

>>720343541
the knight having shade dash and darkest dive would trivialize most of silksong alone
equip quickslash + unbreakable strength + mark of pride and it's a wrap

>>720352962
I don't mind doing it I'm just curious if I'll miss something good by doing this first instead of sinner

>>720352998
shit bait. almost as if i said last vesticrest because you're illiterate.

Just like how From finally added the ability to summon Torrent during the Elden Beast fight, I shall be waiting for the patch fixes

>>720351923
>fireborn made a mistake in the lava escape
>tfw you nailed it in one try

>>720322405
the design is definitely archaic and retro inspired and that is exactly what makes it a great game, not just a good one.
ADHD addled, dopamine addicted zoomers and millenials need not opine - the game is not for you.

>>720353052
There are no missables in this game, aside from some journal entries.

>>720352781
Saving you from death is invaluable in a game where most attacks deal 2 masks of damage and you heal 3 masks in one go.

It can singlehandedly save a good run that chokes at the last few moments of a boss fight.

It's not just "+2 HP", it's a second attempt to turn around a fight.

>>720353069
You said "the full reward" here >>720352378 you double nigger

>>720353138
i didn't say last reward did i? i said full as in "the full vesticrest set". you are fucking brown, holy shit. i sure hope your retarded ass has no further questions now.

>>720353130
Great! Thanks!

>>720353049
But how would you climb something like farfields or something?

>>720353170
Keep trying to reword your answer to not make you feel like an idiot

>>720353202
listen and learn when someone's teaching you english, pajeet.

>>720320829 (OP)
I just got an upgrade and im really fucking tired from playing all day, so now Im stuck. Am I FUCKIGN STUPID?
Got the hook shot thing that lets you grab on rings and im fucking trapped? I already beat the cool danger mechs and I gotta find 3 songs
I can vividly remember where the important rings are but how do I fucking leave?
w/e man I made good progress today

>>720353201
make him able to crystal dash upwards

so if the knight is a void lord and has an army, why couldn't he just the solve the problem by himself? of course other than the gameplay reason

>>720353020
I hope Cogworks isn't the hardest platforming section in the game. I liked it and Mount Fay but neither of them approached the Super Meatboy cock and ball torture I'm looking for in a final platforming challenge.

>>720353381
>I hope Cogworks isn't the hardest platforming section in the game
Go back to the pinstress (charged attack trainer) area, there are some hookshot rings nearby

>>720353453
I made my way up into Karak already. I need more.

>>720352982
NTA but I did the fleas and just didn't travel with them, so Moorwing spawned as usual.

>>720353453
>Sands of Karak
>hardest platforming section in the game
lol, lmao

>>720353520
probably the longest without being hard, even with the shortcut

>>720353247
You can use the hookshot on enemies too, not just the ring. You can also use it on air and Hornet will still move in that direction.

>>720353372
he was too busy watching tv

>>720353564
Sounds to me like you don't have the Pale Nail skill(and didn't try to climb even higher).

>>720320829 (OP)
I'm 40, and it was fine. Who the fuck has problems with 2D platformers anymore? The attack patterns aren't that difficult, so you barely need any reactions if you think ahead.

>>720352845
>>720352839
Why are they patching it out?

Should I go for the Twisted Bud ending, I've taken a couple of shots at Grandma and can get to Phase 2 but the inability to heal, have charms and use silk skills is kinda killing it for me. I'd rather just move onto Act 3.

>>720353838
no it's not very fun and all you get is a png and cheevo

How do you unlock this? It's the far fields weavenest where you get the speed anklets

>>720353838
Gonna give you the same tip I give everybody: Use your dang Clawline. A big chunk of your damage against her should be Clawline. She'll also stagger more often.

>>720353945
some of you are so stupid i s2g. go read more guides you brainlet

>>720353945
Anklets make you go faster.
You probably have something else that makes you go faster.
What if...both?

>autosave is only for main quest things
Well, I guess I'm stuck with the shittiest silkshot

>>720353973
Clawline shouldn't use silk.

>>720353945
>actually using the datamined map
Jesus Christ, why even play at all? Can't wait to move onto the next game, you tiktok brain?

>>720353381
there is a much harder platforming section much later in the game
it's not path of pain tier but it's close

>>720354051
Man, shut the fuck up faggot. I did everything else without using it
>>720354020
I completely forgot about the flea brew

some fights go on for so long that I heal like 4-6 times
that's an entire health bar
it also benefits from the quick heal so you're leaving synergy on the table

>>720354098
>I did everything else without using it
except asking 4chan to solve the easiest puzzle in the world for you

>>720351807
>>720351810
this is such a cancer fight even with my tool spam build and this bench. fuck

>>720354261
You are the dumbest nigger I've ever seen

meh

>>720354307
git gud

what is the point of rune rage other than looking cool

Does anyone knows what they changed in the new patch to make the bosses slightly easier ?
What does that mean ?

>>720354578
poor man's Witch build

>>720354367
>flaps ass
>takes off

The upcoming patch make the gear give you 1 damage . GOD BLESS

>>720354850
I speedran this part, didn't even know they did 2 damage lol

>>720324391
Women are more fun to draw and sexo.
>>720321615
You ran into it like an idiot.

>>720354850
But the fans in Underworks are still 2 masks, this just doesn't make sense

>find that big guy blocking the door to hunter's march
>eh /v/ was right, this will take a whi--
>realize I can pull him to the narrow part of the room and now it can't jump anymore
>it dies effortlessly in one try
So was everyone else just retarded or

>>720355097
People who aren’t having trouble with it don’t usually post about it here, so we don’t hear from them. The ones who do have issues often stop playing and come here to complain, which makes their numbers seem larger than they really are

>>720355097
Now try this guy + a flying spear guy with lots of HP in an open room
Honestly, I can't beat that. And the reward is apparently just some rosaries

WHAT DID THEY NERF ??

ANYONE TRIED THE BETA ?

WHAT DID THEY CHANGE?

>>720355189
I had to use the boss-destroyer Beast creast build for that fight goddamn them

>>720355189
Why are there so many rosary rewards if you can just farm for a few minutes anyway

how do i fight garmond in act 2?
i have dome all of the stuff before act 3 except for him

>>720355253
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1030300/discussions/0/595159519774039622/
You should switch to the beta channel anyway, there are tons of bug fixes for quests and softlocks etc

>>720355290
Because HK had too many charms and you could make a 20hp insta-heal build and invalidate the whole game outside of P5

>>720355350
>>720355350
Thanks, but what exactly did they change?

>>720355404
Just click the link? It lists all changes.

>>720355404
>>720355350
>>720355404
I mean in the bossfight

>>720320829 (OP)
>geriatric boomers with no reflexes
actually, its the zoomers with no inherent skill and no logical thought that are struggling
they were fed with a silverspoon their whole lives so they have no critical thinking skills to overcome adversity nor do they have the mindset of lose, learn live.
zoomers need pic related, boomers can navigate with stars and an A to Z

>>720355437
It says slightly easier. I'm asking how it's easier now

>>720355479
I think Moorwing has has less HP now and Sister Splinter's minions don't spin every 1.5 sec

>>720355350
no, you should beat the game before the nerfs or you will never beat the game.

>>720355469
>zoomers need pic related, boomers can navigate with stars and an A to Z
You get 3-4 yellow slots, the fuck else you're gonna put there? The faster sprint charm, compass and magnet, and idk what else, maybe the more scraps one if you're consistently low on these, maybe the dice too but it procs very rarely

>>720355469
ah, no compass... just like sailors used to navigate

>>720355469
Yeah people really overestimate how often this thing is used. Map is purely room-related so its not like you need to constantly check your exact position, and you can figure out rest by the tells/exits.
I wont even blame people who install that mod just because they just love the map icon but dont want to gimp themselves, but its laughable to think someone will actually get lost without that tool by the 5th game hour.

>>720355589
Antiknockback is a consideration but I do not even know if I really want it.

>>720355589
I didn't like the faster sprint charm because it eats at my silk.

>>720353796
Because people are struggling when pogoing

Alright rolling back the checkpoint to before I cleared the bud parasite, now tomorrow I can go for that ending that I didn't know about. Only lost a couple hours of playtime which was mostly farming to buy out the shops before delving into Bilewater. Good place to start tomorrow.

>>720355751
I don't think it eats any silk? It just needs a small amount to function.

>>720355469
Yeah, just keep count of how many rooms you've passed from a landmark

>>720355752
Wait, really? I am actually fucking shit in whole plantormer thing and I NEVER accidentaly floated instead of pogoing.
I still do not know why sometimes I slide down or dont hook though, maybe I am throwing my spaghetti and pressing keybinds too late under pressure.

Wish bellhart had repeatable boss quests

I hope we'll get something like Pantheon in Silksong too.
>t. still on P5 lmao

>Shaman crest changes the moveset to Master Sword
attackspeed is trash though

>>720355307
I'm in the same boat. Not sure how to get him to move.

>>720355307
I've been just randomly running trough citadel and found him fucking up white clothed bugs.. three times I believe. Twice in the halls and once on the eastern outer ledge. There he challenged me.

>>720355307
>>720356005

>>720355307
If he sits there it means you passed the point and you can no longer fight him

>>720356176
I fought him right before doing 3rd song so I am unsure if this is even true, what would even be the lockout state.

>>720352670
>>720352575
You niggers seriously need to turn your beads into rosaries.

So is Eva like some cool real imaginary friend after she is bound to Hornet or is it just like helpful LCL liquid

wake me up when you beat groal without tools

>>720320829 (OP)
>have to use a guide to get to Act 3

nice game design

>>720320829 (OP)
>trannies, gooners, and journalist can't play vidya
so what's new

>>720354367
LMAO I came close to using FLING just for this dumb ass part. It's not even hard just not worth the patience needed