I can't have one series, not even one fucking game series, that does not get woke homosexual degeneracy fucking SHOVED INTO IT.
How did it fucking get to this point? It wasn't always like this.
Nigga they're dancing automatons
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:09:31 AM
No.720406664
this retard lost his mind because the bugs are gay
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:09:33 AM
No.720406668
>>720423778
>>720406558 (OP)
The creators are onions boys who suck each others cocks, what did you expect?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:09:38 AM
No.720406671
>>720408070
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:09:54 AM
No.720406686
>>720408067
>>720406619
Exactly. Why are they holding each other like a couple of fucking flaming fags?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:10:01 AM
No.720406695
>>720432109
stop being so fucking fragile, you're not a kojimbo character
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:10:09 AM
No.720406710
>>720407726
>>720406558 (OP)
>It wasn't always like this
Yes it was, like 75% of the original surviving hollow knight is gay.
Gay boy. Liking gay genres. Go play FIFA or accept that you're a faggot.
>>720406619
They both have male voices, don't try to sanitize this. This was a willful attack on Christianity, just like the rest of the game.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:10:26 AM
No.720406730
>>720406558 (OP)
The game is actually pro lgbt? I thought you were memeing
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:10:46 AM
No.720406752
>>720406878
>>720408223
>>720406558 (OP)
Morality is an unstable system. It inevitably erodes over time. You're only going to see more of this, so you'd better get comfy.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:12:01 AM
No.720406835
>>720412993
>>720423970
>>720406619
get farther in the game, they're the representation of the imprisoned mantis's gay love
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:12:04 AM
No.720406839
>>720406558 (OP)
listen chuddie, the bugs HAVE to be fags
it's important
>>720406720
Most of human history has had people not give a fuck about gay shit though.
It's entirely a learned response, like how japs think it's abhorrent to pass around food with chopsticks, or how Americans don't take off their shoes indoors.
Purely learned response, has nothing to do with reality, sorry.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:12:27 AM
No.720406878
>>720406752
Not true, it's been a conscious process accelerated by many different groups, you can't tell me with a straight face that the sweet spot of early 2000s was impossible to keep for longer
>>720406860
What about faggots kissing and seeing maggots having the same response on a normal person? It's not learned you troon enabler
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:14:18 AM
No.720406969
>>720406558 (OP)
Most kino boss up until that point
You nigger
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:15:45 AM
No.720407060
>>720406558 (OP)
redditors are so bad at falseflagging :/
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:17:58 AM
No.720407224
>>720406929
There are maggots in this game. There's tons of them swarming around in the muck swamp areas. If seeing faggots kissing and seeing maggots has the "same response" then why aren't you making threads about that?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:18:46 AM
No.720407261
>>720465451
>>720406929
Also god doesn't exist and you are a loser like Charlie Kirk
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:20:53 AM
No.720407395
>>720406558 (OP)
Grow up, faggot.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:25:50 AM
No.720407726
>>720408728
>>720406710
>soccer
>not the faggiest sport in existence
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:30:09 AM
No.720407985
>>720406558 (OP)
Nigga you literally destroy them to progress through the game. That seems pretty anti-gay to me.
Also if you donβt like the faggot mantis, keep him in jail and use your key on something else.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:31:37 AM
No.720408067
>>720435257
>>720406686
Nigga have you ever see music boxes with dancers inside? They are made to be pretty to look at.
Also they are not gay they are literally robots.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:31:41 AM
No.720408070
>>720406671
This was such a good show
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:32:30 AM
No.720408128
>>720406558 (OP)
lmfao look at this triggered snowflake
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:34:05 AM
No.720408223
>>720432157
>>720406752
>Morality inevitably erodes over time
Morality has comprehensively improved over time.
We used to have child marriage, slavery (not just of niggers either but comprehensively. Whites enslaved to Arabs for example), medieval torture, freak shows, horrific chemical weapons.
The Bible regulated slavery and had Jesus command the enslaved to be good for their masters. We grew up past that.
I won't argue we have a perfectly moral society yet at all, but if you think society was more moral in Roman times because churches didn't let gays marry, you're not moral, you just have a comical obsession with hating homos.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:37:10 AM
No.720408380
>>720413175
>>720418785
Didn't you help a pair of gay bugs hook up in the original game
Why are you acting like this is new
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:38:43 AM
No.720408472
Just beat them, this was the best boss in the game so far.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:43:29 AM
No.720408728
>>720407726
How can you consider soccer gayer than football where guys are constantly tackling and piling on top of each other?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:45:25 AM
No.720408831
>>720409389
>>720406929
>what about [LEARNED RESPONSE]
Retard
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:45:37 AM
No.720408848
>>720406558 (OP)
i assumed the one on the right is a girl and the one on the left is a guy, but i didn't pay attention to any of the "deep lore."
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:45:52 AM
No.720408858
>plays indie game
>is surprised to see gay shit
Are you retarded? If you don't want to see gay shit, don't play indie games
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:47:51 AM
No.720408962
>>720409389
>>720406929
That "study" was debunked years ago. It was a single study and the people polled were exclusively rural conservative white men over the age of 30
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:48:26 AM
No.720408989
>>720409620
>>720406558 (OP)
No, you can't. You really should kill yourself, rather than continuing to live in this horrid, corrupt world.
>>720408962
Fake news
>>720408831
Bullshit, kids find that shit gross from birth, which is why gay propaganda is needed in the first place.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:56:52 AM
No.720409453
>>720409389
Kids find all romance-related shit gross, retard
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:57:29 AM
No.720409493
>>720432236
>>720438530
>>720409389
I wonder what levels of gay propaganda were there in ancient greece then.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:58:26 AM
No.720409558
>>720406558 (OP)
Basedlennials are obsessed with gay sex for some reason
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:58:27 AM
No.720409559
>>720411804
>>720406558 (OP)
Give it time. Soon wokeism will cease to be. Kirk's cowardly murder only accelerated things.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:59:27 AM
No.720409620
>>720408989
But enough about you. The answer is right there. Obliterate. Yourself.
>>720406558 (OP)
They're giving Pillar Men so it's fine.
AWAKEN MY MASTERS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRrOLTHu-ew
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:35:29 AM
No.720411804
>>720411956
>>720436181
>>720409559
You're already at peak anti woke. With the way the economy is going, Dems retake the house in 2026.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:36:53 AM
No.720411894
>>720406558 (OP)
The devs got the Call, remember this was developed at tha peak of propaganda
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:37:59 AM
No.720411956
>>720433051
>>720411804
Which is stupid since they are the equally economically retarded.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:39:12 AM
No.720412021
>>720406720
go back to /co/, guy.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:39:38 AM
No.720412059
>>720412718
>>720406558 (OP)
What's wrong with gay? Why is it offputing it you?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:51:35 AM
No.720412718
>>720412862
>>720412059
Gay bugs are nastier than maggots
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:53:29 AM
No.720412821
>>720429520
WHAT ARE THEY PUTTING IN THE WATER TO MAKE THE BUGS GAY
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:54:13 AM
No.720412862
>>720412910
>>720412718
Depends on who. I honestly don't care.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:55:02 AM
No.720412910
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:55:23 AM
No.720412934
>>720406720
Jesus sucked a turd out of my ass
hows this for attack on christianity
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:56:25 AM
No.720412993
>>720406835
if you have a problem with that maybe next time leave him in prison.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:56:27 AM
No.720412996
>I can't have one series, not even one fucking game series, that does not get woke homosexual degeneracy fucking SHOVED INTO IT.
No.
Why is everything gay with you? Next you are going to say trobbio is gay just because he acts like a faggot and has bi in his name.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:57:24 AM
No.720413047
>>720406558 (OP)
Anon... those allre literally two halves of the same guy
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:59:32 AM
No.720413175
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:23:02 AM
No.720414604
How quickly we forget what female spiders and mantids do to their male mates when they're a little hungry after mating
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:24:50 AM
No.720414705
>>720406558 (OP)
>Shoved into
you're such a retard
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:27:59 AM
No.720414879
>>720409389
>Fake news
no, just news you won't accept
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:32:57 AM
No.720415167
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:42:04 AM
No.720415727
I actually thought these niggas were kino. The idea isn't that they are fags but twins
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:57:39 AM
No.720416613
>>720406558 (OP)
Some bugs are gay, the end come on anon
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:20:05 AM
No.720417852
>>720418192
>>720406558 (OP)
They were actually brothers.
Who may have still been gay.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:21:37 AM
No.720417923
>>720406558 (OP)
Stop being so sensitive you snowflake
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:24:34 AM
No.720418086
>>720425428
>>720413037
TROBBIOOOOOO
>throws explosive confetti
>beach ball fog machine party
>pirouettes aggressively
TROBBIOOOOOO
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:26:23 AM
No.720418192
>>720419904
>>720417852
Does it ever explicitly say they're related? They're bugs so it's not farfetched to find two that look identical.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:28:50 AM
No.720418351
>>720406558 (OP)
fuck you retard
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:30:08 AM
No.720418438
>>720432304
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A STORY WITH A GAY CHARACTER BEING GAY
>NOOOOOOOOOOO THAT CHARACTER ISN'T GAY IT'S JUST YOUR HEADCANON
get the fuck over it snowflake, suck some cock and move on
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:30:11 AM
No.720418443
>>720413037
this faggot is just grimm but even gayer
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:31:12 AM
No.720418503
the blacksmith in hollow knight is gay you idiot
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:36:16 AM
No.720418785
>>720418940
>>720453196
>>720408380
>Didn't you help a pair of gay bugs hook up in the original game
Yep. The Nailsmith beetle lives for his work, and after forging the Pure Nail he says his life's work is completed, and asks you to cut him down with it because he has nothing left to live for and wants to die to his masterpiece. If you refuse and just leave instead he'll make his way to Nailmaster Sheo's hut in Greenpath. Sheo has retired as a Nailmaster to take up art instead, and inspires the Nailsmith to take up art too, reigniting his love for life once more. Uniting them this way earns you the achievement "Happy Couple".
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:37:52 AM
No.720418862
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:39:24 AM
No.720418940
>>720418785
>kills the nailsmith with flukenest instead
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:43:05 AM
No.720419152
>>720406720
>Christianity
please shut up about your cult bro
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:44:05 AM
No.720419205
>>720419284
>>720419414
>>720406558 (OP)
Are these two the mythical "gays done right" ? Shitposters didn't latch onto them nearly as hard as I thought they would
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:45:36 AM
No.720419284
>>720419414
>>720419205
Anon, HK1 has a gay couple that fell entirely 100% under shitposting's radar. That being ths Grey Mourner and Traitor Child
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:48:07 AM
No.720419414
>>720419205
>>720419284
Plot twist: The two main devs (not the composer) are on the DL and game dev is an excuse for them to spend all day around each other without their wives.
That's why Silksong took so long, they were so busy bashing butts that no work got done.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:49:40 AM
No.720419504
>>720406558 (OP)
I was gonna buy this game.
Thanks for telling us. Just took it out of my wishlist.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:56:53 AM
No.720419904
>>720430623
>>720441786
>>720418192
Theyβre not even bugs theyβre artificial clockwork robots. Everything in that area is a machine made of cogs and covered in brass and bronze. Theyβre literally identical automatons.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:01:22 AM
No.720420137
>>720406558 (OP)
>video games are CHEAP escapism
>trannies DESPERATELY need escapism
>surprised mewtwo face when they infiltrate the industry
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:32:04 AM
No.720421674
>>720406619
theyre gay bugchasing robutts
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:46:57 AM
No.720422414
>>720432357
>>720406720
>This was a willful attack on Christianity
Other religions hate gays too, stop stealing all the homophobia you triple faggot!
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:06:21 AM
No.720423394
>>720406558 (OP)
Absolute kino fight by the way.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:13:21 AM
No.720423684
>>720406720
>This was a willful attack on Christianity
holy based just bought chadsong total christcuck death
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:13:56 AM
No.720423704
>>720431565
>>720441836
>>720406558 (OP)
how do you know what gender they are
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:14:34 AM
No.720423728
>killing faggots is woke
put down the crackpipe nigga
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:16:06 AM
No.720423778
>>720423917
>>720406668
All three are Jewish Australians.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:18:14 AM
No.720423864
>>720406558 (OP)
>hates fags
>plays cute 2d platformers
Denial
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:19:26 AM
No.720423917
>>720423778
no they arent you retard
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:20:36 AM
No.720423970
>>720441727
>>720406835
gay incest love, even
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:20:41 AM
No.720423974
>YOU VILL VATCH ZE BUGS HAVE GAY ZEX
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:52:36 AM
No.720425428
>>720418086
My FUARKING heroβ¦
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 6:53:53 AM
No.720425493
>>720430059
>>720413037
felt good to kill this fag
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 7:02:06 AM
No.720425881
>>720409864
gay is gay no matter how Chad the man is
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 7:04:41 AM
No.720426015
>>720406558 (OP)
There were already gay bugs in the first Hollow Knight game, what did you expect
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:17:23 AM
No.720429141
>>720406720
They will hate you because you told the truth
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:27:51 AM
No.720429520
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:33:35 AM
No.720429737
>>720406558 (OP)
First game has two gay couples
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:35:18 AM
No.720429809
>>720406558 (OP)
>rrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:38:54 AM
No.720429960
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:41:28 AM
No.720430059
>>720425493
>kill
anon...
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:42:43 AM
No.720430112
>>720441885
>>720409864
Ok you've triggered a pet peeve of mine. Idk if this is some weird Canadian grammar thing or something. For example purposes, why do people say "it's giving mario" NIGGER, it's giving mario what?
You can say "it's giving off mario vibes" or something similar, but "it's giving mario" makes you sound fucking retarded. I have to deal with a woman speaking like this around me and it takes a lot of energy not to snap at her about it. If I rant any longer it's gonna turn into a copypasta.
I need context on why people speak like this.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:47:46 AM
No.720430320
>>720406860
you will never be a real /v/ user and samefagging the whole thread does not amend that
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:52:12 AM
No.720430465
GAY
ROBOT
BUGS
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 8:57:26 AM
No.720430623
>>720419904
anon's talking about act 3 stuff
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:01:15 AM
No.720430738
>>720406558 (OP)
>plays indie 2d sidescrollers in 2025
You're even gayer than the bugs, what are you whining about?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:05:23 AM
No.720430867
>>720446421
>>720406558 (OP)
Hollow Knight already had homosexual (Nailsmith & Sheo) and lesbian (Grey Mourner & Traitors' Child) couples. You know that right?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:13:55 AM
No.720431185
>>720431348
>>720441927
>>720406558 (OP)
There was lesbian propaganda in the original. Remember the "Delicate Flower" quest? Yeah, and we're talking about literal bugs here. What are the odds you would somehow stumble up upon something like this? It's not like they go around doing things like looking to pound each others anal cavity in real life. Absurd.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:18:18 AM
No.720431348
>>720431768
>>720431185
But that doesn't stop the developers of course. If you spare the Nailsmith, he moves in with Sheo and you unlock the achievement "Happy Couple". Yeah, totally not pushing an agenda.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:24:17 AM
No.720431565
>>720423704
Because they aren't eating each other, literally. Bugs life.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:26:06 AM
No.720431639
>>720406558 (OP)
Fake outrage and gayer than any bug in the series.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:28:01 AM
No.720431723
Let me pitch the perfect game. I call it Me: The Quest To Make Everything Be Me. Basically, you play as me and your goal is to turn everyone and everything in all of existence into me, so me will never have to tolerate the existence of not-me ever again. Also, everyone who plays the me game is magically transformed into me, and playing me game is mandatory. Then everyone will be me and everything will be about me and only me forever and me mee meeee me me meeee meeeeee me meeeeee meeeeeeeeeeee.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:28:54 AM
No.720431768
>>720431348
Oh, I just killed him like he told me to in my blind playthrough.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:32:32 AM
No.720431920
>>720431982
>>720406558 (OP)
Holy shit you're a loser, grow up
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:33:49 AM
No.720431982
>>720465134
>>720431920
But people who aren't meeeeeeeeeeee exist and that makes me angry! WHY WON'T EVERYONE JUST BE MEEEEEEEEEEEE?!!??!!!?!!!
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:37:00 AM
No.720432109
>>720432175
>>720406695
stob beign not normal. Normal peopl shouldn't endure you abnormality
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:38:13 AM
No.720432157
>>720408223
no you are just homo
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:38:38 AM
No.720432175
>>720432429
>>720432109
Normal people speak English you cretin, go play one of those Mario Teaches Typing games and come back
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:39:46 AM
No.720432229
>>720406860
>Most of human history has had people not give a fuck about gay shit though
Read some history books, nigga
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:39:53 AM
No.720432236
>>720409493
spoiler.
99.9% of peopel was always normal and as a consequence found that shit gross
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:40:32 AM
No.720432264
>>720406860
>YOU SEE THERE WAS THIS ONE CULTURE 4,000 YEARS AGO THAT HAD 2 GAY GUYS KISSING BEFORE BEING STONED THAT MEANS EVERYONE LOVES THE WHOLESOME CHUNGUS GAYS!!!
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:40:53 AM
No.720432280
People here allow it because the game is actually good. The bossfight is certified kino. It being a narrative mirror of the green bug (who's actually the gay char) is even more kino. They way he is written is sensible. You wonder why he is so heart and soulbroken, and once you find out, him being a fag makes narrative sense.
What people hate is when DEI hired scum puts in gay centric stuff for no reason. "This is character...but GAY!"
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:41:15 AM
No.720432292
>>720432469
>>720406720
>This was a willful attack on Christianity
I love fagbugs now
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:41:25 AM
No.720432304
>>720437284
>>720418438
>NOOOOOO MY MENTAL ILLNESS SHOULD BE DISPLAYED AND PEOPLE SHOLD SAY NOTHING NOOOOOOOOOO
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:42:41 AM
No.720432357
>>720422414
Everyone naturally dislike gays. Some just say the opposite because their ideology said so
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:44:52 AM
No.720432429
>>720432719
>>720432175
Normal people aren't gay, and attacking words instead of having an argument is called a logic fallacy.
TLDR: Struck a nerve, uh?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:45:55 AM
No.720432469
>>720432292
Any religion is superior to you ideology
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:47:15 AM
No.720432530
>>720406720
Oh no not jewsus!
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:52:13 AM
No.720432719
>>720432836
>>720432929
>>720432429
You don't have an argument so much as a slurry of incoherent ramblings and you're having a tism fit over a pair of gay robot bugs in the wee hours (in the civilized world), take care goy
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:55:34 AM
No.720432836
>>720447929
>>720432719
The argument is that abnormal shit that normal people don't like should stay in fetish niche products, and not forced on product meant for everyone.
It that makes you irrationally mad it's because you are abnormal or brainwashed by your stupid cult
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:57:38 AM
No.720432917
>>720406558 (OP)
They're robots though
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:57:55 AM
No.720432929
>>720432719
Stop defending gayshit, politicstard.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 9:58:37 AM
No.720432956
>>720406558 (OP)
OK, but are there gay frogs?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:00:15 AM
No.720433021
>>720406558 (OP)
Don't care, the boss is just too good.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:00:55 AM
No.720433051
>>720411956
At least I didn't have to pay all the retarded tariffs that china was supposedly supposed to pay for.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:01:26 AM
No.720433071
>>720406558 (OP)
damn who could have seen this coming
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:01:50 AM
No.720433089
>>720433387
>>720406558 (OP)
Just sort of happens that every single game that interests you is like that huh?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:03:04 AM
No.720433138
>>720406558 (OP)
Itβs one guy whoβs a narcissist
Think deeper about this
Two bodies one soul
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:03:25 AM
No.720433148
>>720406558 (OP)
Sounds like there is only one solution for your suffering.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:04:48 AM
No.720433212
>>720433378
>>720433548
>>720406558 (OP)
>adult male upset at cartoon bugs from a video game
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:07:29 AM
No.720433296
>>720413037
Trobbio is a flamboyant theater kid who's aged out and works a 9/5 but still goes to functions to slam (slightly) underage pussy
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:07:38 AM
No.720433307
>>720406558 (OP)
they are just two mechanical dancers dancing together
its you who have created the context of them being homosexual
its you who have brought degeneracy into it
just eat the cock you've been yearning for
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:08:08 AM
No.720433324
>It's an OP upsets a faggot and they keep seethe replying to his thread episode
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:08:38 AM
No.720433350
>>720433982
>>720406720
>This was a willful attack on Christianity
Everything is an attack on Sissyanity. Cuck religion that can only blow cock.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:09:35 AM
No.720433378
>>720433501
>>720433212
>fetishist insists that his own fetish must be present in video games
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:09:59 AM
No.720433387
>>720433089
did the first game have gay sex?
>religion bad
>capitalism bad
>strong independent women in charge
>full of gay men
yeah it's woke
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:12:48 AM
No.720433501
>>720434065
>>720433378
I'm not insisting on anything, because I don't care. The boss fight was fun, my involvement ends there. If you're upset about the gays, surely you've got a stronger argument than crying over what goes on in an indie video game about anthropomorphic insects.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:13:04 AM
No.720433515
>>720433430
>capitalist religion lead by strong independent women is bad, and the gay men will be unable to prevent it
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:13:54 AM
No.720433548
>>720433621
>>720433212
why do the cartoon bugs need to be gay?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:15:32 AM
No.720433621
>>720435002
>>720433548
They don't have to be. If a gay man derives support and reassurance from a cartoon bug of all places, he's probably retarded. The truth is that it doesn't matter.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:22:16 AM
No.720433870
anon they're portrayed as being freaks
they're incestuous murderer cannibals
you are literally in an evil kingdom
it's supposed to be offputting
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:25:12 AM
No.720433982
>>720433350
You espouse grotesque moral guides just beacuse the ones that work say that you are gross.
Well, you are gross
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:27:57 AM
No.720434065
>>720433501
>appeal to triviality
gayshitter lol
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:28:52 AM
No.720434101
>>720406558 (OP)
>I can't have one series, not even one fucking game series, that does not get woke homosexual degeneracy fucking SHOVED INTO IT.
>How did it fucking get to this point? It wasn't always like this.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:30:59 AM
No.720434157
>>720433430
>religion bad
>capitalism bad
Correct
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:41:02 AM
No.720434474
>>720406558 (OP)
NOW I understand why this run of the mill sidescroller is being shilled so hard
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 10:55:24 AM
No.720435002
>>720433621
it clearly matters to the devs and you a lot as you insist on them being gay
you are very unintelligent and dishonest as is typical of your kind
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:02:09 AM
No.720435257
>>720408067
anon, its a brainrotted zoomer, he'd think a music box was woke too.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:06:05 AM
No.720435397
>>720458471
>>720406558 (OP)
>>720406619
You think this is bad? The automatons are modeled after the Green Prince NPC, that you free in Sinner's Road. Then HE is an actual faggot, yearning for his dead gay lover who was transformed into those automatons.
Like, not implied or anything, actual, in-your-face faggotry. He says "I failed him, my one love" blabla.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:11:00 AM
No.720435581
>>720406929
Human history has always been gay as fuck. Greeks literally sculpted more male statues with their cocks out and spent most days admiring men's bodies and fucking each other in the ass.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:11:12 AM
No.720435586
>>720406558 (OP)
I don't get what the big deal is
Gay people increase in numbers alongside societal collapse, both Hollow Knight and Silksong take place in collapsing/fallen kingdoms.
Therefore, it is okay for disproportionate gay representation to be present because their existence is both consequence, and a contributor to the current state of their society.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:13:28 AM
No.720435675
That was a laughably bad gay storyline though, literally "me sad" and "two body one heart" or something. I have no idea someone has to be upset about it being gay instead of the shit writing
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:16:01 AM
No.720435761
This is literally white straight christian genoci-ACK...
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:17:12 AM
No.720435797
>>720439531
>>720465334
>>720406929
>>720409389
Gay stuff is natural.
What the fuck is with the sudden christfag push?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:19:29 AM
No.720435883
>>720406720
>This was a willful attack on Christianity
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:23:06 AM
No.720436014
Not even a Christfag bit faggotry is effin disgusting. Donβt go around pushing your end of bloodline subroutine as if it was anything other than nature purging your dna from the pool. Disgusting and nothing to be proud of.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:27:39 AM
No.720436165
Not even a faggot but christfaggotry is effin disgusting. Don't go around pushing your end of bloodline subroutine as if it was anything other than nature purging your dna from the pool. Disgusting and nothing to be proud of.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:28:06 AM
No.720436181
>>720411804
>at peak anti woke
hahhahahahahah
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>720435864
religion is social cohesion retardbro
saucy
9/12/2025, 11:30:09 AM
No.720436248
>>720436230
that's nice dear but so is basic human curiosity
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:30:57 AM
No.720436273
>>720436230
you sound like a bug, faggot
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:35:43 AM
No.720436445
>>720406860
Nah man that's fundamentally disgusting, like looking at or smelling shit. There's nothing learned about it, it's just a visceral reaction of disgust.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:50:49 AM
No.720436973
>>720406860
>Most of human history has had people not give a fuck about gay shit though.
We are reaching levels of rewriting history that I didn't think were possible
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 11:59:21 AM
No.720437284
>>720432304
you are already doing that by pushing your flavor of normality onto others, that's literally your lack of ability and tools to deal with your mental illness, now in full display
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:00:41 PM
No.720437331
>>720438424
>>720447573
Jesus christ you're mindbroken. Seek help. Nobody in 2010 made this big of a deal about shit like this.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:01:41 PM
No.720437374
>>720406558 (OP)
one could be female?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:14:02 PM
No.720437849
>>720406558 (OP)
But they're both female?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:14:04 PM
No.720437850
>>720435864
some christian faggot in america got shot
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:24:50 PM
No.720438214
>>720435864
idk but its hilarious that people here will blame the left for things like the recent censorship of porn games while the religious fundamentalists with actual power openly say they want to ban porn and violent vidya and such. Literally a day before tinyfaceman got mossad'd you had RFK saying that vidya was the cause of mass shootings
>>720436230
The Salem witch trials were peak "social cohesion" I guess
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:26:22 PM
No.720438264
>>720439290
>>720436230
So is sex but you're still a virgin LMAOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLOOOO
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:30:30 PM
No.720438424
>>720438743
>>720437331
Most people in 2010 didn't see the writing on the wall
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:33:39 PM
No.720438530
>>720409493
Fairly extreme. As today, degenerates captured the high culture and excluded nornal people.
But because Ancient Greece was a freer society than ours, normal people at least weren't prohibited from mocking them. And so we got Aristophanes' comedies, for example, and thus we know that common people of Athens considered faggots to be laughable and disgusting.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:35:23 PM
No.720438579
>>720406558 (OP)
This display of bug homosexuality makes me want to enslave niggers again.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:36:50 PM
No.720438629
>>720406720
>This was a willful attack on Christianity
People have only been larping as Christians as an excuse to get outraged for a couple years now and I'm already tired of it.
Don't even pretend you actually go to church.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:39:50 PM
No.720438743
>>720439187
>>720438424
Normal people don't hate faggots or freak out whenever they see even the slightest hint of a gay character in a piece of media.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:42:12 PM
No.720438823
>>720406558 (OP)
>I see two bugs lovers and all I think of is two men touching dicks
Maybe you're the homo
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:42:13 PM
No.720438824
I'm really sick of false flagging lefty weirdos pretending to be right wing, jacking off over how they perceived devs as pandering to them. They don't actually understand the people they hate at all.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:45:20 PM
No.720438934
>gay ballet dancing mantis tribe
>lesbian moss mothers
>the plot is about an infertile "mother" creating a "real" child and your character spends 3 acts trying to validate its as heckin valid
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:49:09 PM
No.720439110
Silksong's narrative is an allegory for the suffocating machinery of faith when it demands obedience over humanity. Nowhere is that more clearly mirrored than in Islam. Pharloom's gilded promises from a false God seeking only obedience, masking exploitation, its ritualized submission, and its crushing hierarchies align seamlessly with Islamic dogma and the lived realities of it, where devotion is weaponized to strip people of their agency and their logos and ethos. The game wants to expose the beauty and the terror of faith simultaneously, making Islam the sharpest, and perhaps only, religious parallel where its commentary lands with full force.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:51:29 PM
No.720439187
>>720448894
>>720438743
Normal people where? Kenya?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 12:54:02 PM
No.720439290
>>720438264
When you think sex and marriage are the same thing, yes.
>>720435797
this image is interesting because it proves you can't be civil with woke people. only bullets will work on them
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:03:31 PM
No.720439627
I am not gay, but I would let that mantis dude rail my ass.
>>720439531
>one day, out of nowhere, people just became violent towards MAGA-mutts
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:06:38 PM
No.720439754
>>720406558 (OP)
>This is the type of person that cries about "weak men"
Lule
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:09:19 PM
No.720439856
>>720406558 (OP)
16 years ago posts like your would get laughed at and you would have pissed your pants and then proceeded to an hero yourself on /b/ for attention. Now you get engagement for one of the most retarded opinions out there because of the infestation of culture warriors on this board. I spit on you and your retarded friends. You are lucky i would probably get a ban for saying what i want to say about your thread and your opinion
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:09:44 PM
No.720439872
>>720440045
>>720453862
>>720439698
Charlie wasn't a shooter or a dictator, he just talked with people. Justifying his death is psychotic.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:10:24 PM
No.720439896
>>720406558 (OP)
It's not gay, retard. This boss fight is one of two twins turned into automatons. The other twin is still alive and you fight him and the spirit of his brother in a harder version of this fight later.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:11:12 PM
No.720439928
>>720440092
Faggots get more intolerable every year.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:13:08 PM
No.720440005
>>720406720
>male voices
They can't have male voices because they don't have a gender (i.e. sex)
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:13:38 PM
No.720440034
He was one of the major grifters for an ideology that is rotting western civilization from within. I am not saying that his murder was desirable outcome, but you keep pushing and undermining people, you will eventually get something back. Fucked around, found out.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:13:57 PM
No.720440045
>>720440145
>>720439872
>Tard narrative
Off yourself.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:15:08 PM
No.720440092
>>720440145
>>720439928
Yes you do
Do everyone a favor and kys
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:16:09 PM
No.720440135
>>720406558 (OP)
this was a great fight, really cool design
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:16:24 PM
No.720440145
>>720440045
>>720440092
You let other men fuck you in the ass
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:16:50 PM
No.720440164
>>720439531
You've only noticed this now?
>>720439698
>"Everyone who does anything I'm too pussy to approve openly is a rightist"
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:31:30 PM
No.720440748
>>720409864
>in sunlight
They are one second away from death except Wham who is 10 seconds away from death
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:35:02 PM
No.720440881
>>720435864
Retards and baiters.
If you get convinced about religion by anyone else you are a cretin.
Christianity is still closer to the answer than any other religion because it expanded the philosophy of Deism.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:39:28 PM
No.720441070
>>720413037
I'll break this down for you
>Attempts to normalize faggotry: bad
>Overt comically flamboyant faggotry: good
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:43:07 PM
No.720441201
>>720406558 (OP)
>NOOO UUGGHHH WHY DO TRANNIES AND FAGGOTS KEEP PUTTING TRANNY AND FAGSHIT IN THEIR GAMES??? THEY SHOULS SLAVE AWAY AND APPEAL ONLY TO **MY** VALUES !!!!
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:44:12 PM
No.720441245
>>720443449
>>720439698
Proof that the left spend a lot of time and effort into lies because they only care about optics
Mr. Cruel
9/12/2025, 1:50:49 PM
No.720441525
>>720406558 (OP)
We stopped treating women as property, stopped lynching blacks for acting out of line, and started tolerating degeneracy and cultural Judaism.
80s: We are people, just don't kill us!
90s: We just want to be out without being killed!
00s: We just want to get married!
10s: We just want to rape your children!
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:51:57 PM
No.720441564
You all need to repent and believe in the good news.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:52:33 PM
No.720441594
>>720406720
The fact that you think anyone outside of your cult respects you is delusion on the level of trannyism.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:53:07 PM
No.720441625
>>720459526
>>720439698
There is a difference between murder and killing, you know that, right? When you kill your enemies in a war, that is not murder. Murder is, definitionally, an unjust killing. Also I may be mistaken, but last I checked Sleepy Joe, Obongo, Clinton, Trump, Pence, Pelosi, Kavanaugh, and many of the other people on that list are, in fact, still alive.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:55:27 PM
No.720441727
>>720423970
Not incest, they are born on the same "beat" so they are almost identical. Hornet even comments on it on her hunters log saying these fuckers might be the biggest narcissists for falling in love with someone that's almost identical to themselves.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:57:05 PM
No.720441786
>>720419904
Look who didn't unlock the prince's cage.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:58:06 PM
No.720441836
>>720423704
By playing the game. Which OP clearly didn't do he is just trying to stir shit, ironically like a complete faggot.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 1:59:07 PM
No.720441885
>>720430112
It's not canadian, it's just your yearly nigger lingo that'll go away next year.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:00:08 PM
No.720441927
>>720431185
>what the fuck the bugs in my videogame about bugs having civilizations and social lives don't act like real bugs wtf!!!!!
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:02:41 PM
No.720442041
>>720433430
>Male monarch in the first game is benevolent
>Female monarch in the sequel is a mind controlling manipulative bitch who sends her followers on death journeys then enslaves any who make it through
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:03:53 PM
No.720442108
>>720461119
>>720439531
Okay as someone who is outside america, isn't "your side" the one that keeps posting a traced image of a tranny hanging?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:17:04 PM
No.720442685
>>720406558 (OP)
filtered
cry more
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:21:16 PM
No.720442870
>>720406558 (OP)
Grime had a better dancer fight anyway
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:33:48 PM
No.720443449
>>720443827
>>720441245
>caring about facts is just optics
>my feelings are the actual truth
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:36:12 PM
No.720443569
>>720406558 (OP)
It's selfcest, they're the same person.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:40:51 PM
No.720443827
>>720443449
>facts
Uh huh, keep making more βfactsβ
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:42:36 PM
No.720443925
>>720444810
>>720406558 (OP)
>imagine seething because of a couple of guy bugs
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:46:09 PM
No.720444094
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 2:57:00 PM
No.720444810
>>720443925
Machines canβt be gay anon
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:00:46 PM
No.720445086
>>720406558 (OP)
Pharloom has fallen...
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:01:01 PM
No.720445105
>>720445425
Hollow knight had a gay couple too
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:02:32 PM
No.720445242
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:04:10 PM
No.720445425
>>720445671
>>720445795
>>720445105
>Hollow knight had a gay couple too
Post them. I don't remember anything of the sort.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:05:40 PM
No.720445650
>>720406558 (OP)
>>720406720
Why are caucasoids the most fragile race on the planet?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:05:46 PM
No.720445671
>>720445425
Anon...the retarded ass secret ending...
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:06:38 PM
No.720445795
>>720447264
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:11:22 PM
No.720446421
>>720430867
Lol, who played that shit?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:17:34 PM
No.720447264
>>720449279
>>720453196
>>720445795
Proof that they are gay?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:19:34 PM
No.720447563
IS THAT HECKING GAY BUGGERINO IN MY GAME
HOLY SHIT THE WEST HAS FALLEN
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:19:41 PM
No.720447573
>>720447765
>>720437331
People used to be genuinely afraid to "come out" because there was a real risk of being beaten to death by their peers
Only reason I'm not killing people is the whole prison thing
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:20:59 PM
No.720447765
>>720447573
You know you can hate faggots without being a knuckle dragging nigger right?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:22:05 PM
No.720447929
>>720432836
its not meant for you chud? How many gaems right wing losers have made? Zero, since yours is the culturally empty ethos
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:29:42 PM
No.720448894
>>720439187
Are you retarded? People in Kenya hate the gays and lynch them on sight.
You're trying to make someone out as a third world nigger when your viewpoint is actually the one that aligns with it.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:33:06 PM
No.720449279
>>720449409
>>720447264
Im not going to spoonfeed you more, just google "hollow knight lgbt" or whatever
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:34:00 PM
No.720449409
>>720449769
>>720453196
>>720449279
If you can't prove your claim to be true, I won't belive it.
Simple as.
Thanks for confirming you can't prove your own claim to be true.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:36:48 PM
No.720449769
>>720450068
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:38:08 PM
No.720449952
>>720406558 (OP)
It seems like you don't know the lore of this
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:38:35 PM
No.720450068
>>720449769
Thanks for confirming there are no LGBT bugs in Hollow Knigh
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:48:00 PM
No.720451505
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 3:58:08 PM
No.720453196
>>720463831
>>720465327
>>720447264
>>720449409
>>720418785
>Uniting them this way earns you the achievement "Happy Couple"
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:02:12 PM
No.720453862
>>720454938
>>720439872
>he just talked people into being gun wielding (muh 2nd amendment) sociopaths (empathy is le bad)
literally reaped what he sowed
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:06:40 PM
No.720454682
>>720406558 (OP)
The creators of hollow knight are literally Jewish
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:07:58 PM
No.720454938
>>720455889
>>720453862
>2nd amendment means pro murder
Really?
>empathy is le bad
When the term is used as sophistry to enact policies which are actually devoid of empathy, yeah.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:08:18 PM
No.720455010
>>720406558 (OP)
These are literally just automatons. If you're gonna complain at least go for the actual gay frogs. Fucking retard.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:13:18 PM
No.720455889
>>720457062
>>720457691
>>720454938
combine gun wielding with empathy is le bad and you get violent gun murders. It was fine when schoolchildren (and Democrats) where being murdered with guns, but when it happens to them everyone is suddenly shocked and pissed off.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:16:03 PM
No.720456290
>>720406720
game was literally made in The City Of Churches
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:20:18 PM
No.720456919
Hollow Knight INVENTED homosexuality.
Deal with it.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:21:18 PM
No.720457062
>>720455889
The right is not advocating now for removal of gun rights now, so i don't to which hypocrisy you're trying to allude to
I just think you're too stupid to understand what even is the contention here.
The right doesn't want kids dead, it's an unfortunate necessity. Same with Kirk's death.
The left however both wants gun rights removed and cheers the murder of Kirk by a gun.
Which not only speaks about their stupidity. But also, the reality is that i can coexist with those who disagree with me, but i cannot coexist with my enemies.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:24:19 PM
No.720457492
We all forget about the gayest of them all: OP
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:25:46 PM
No.720457691
>>720458328
>>720455889
Literally never even heard of this dude until he was shot. Actual literal who, why does anyone care? Some people are DESPERATE for attention.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:28:52 PM
No.720458108
Brown people thread alert.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:30:30 PM
No.720458328
>>720457691
You never heard of him because he was a milquetoast retard speaking basic conservative points, which yes "gun rights resulting to some deaths is acceptable for keeping the 2nd amendment" is a basic conservative take.
As for what's happening now, crying bitching and all that, the alt-right is becoming the primary power on the right, that's what's happening. Which is a very good thing.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:31:43 PM
No.720458471
>>720435397
His "dead gay lover" is his twin prince brother, so it's not just gay, it's incestuous too
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:32:31 PM
No.720458596
>>720406558 (OP)
OP complains about faggots. And yet, he is one. Curious!
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:32:36 PM
No.720458604
>>720406558 (OP)
Is he actually a faggot or is he so self-absorbed he fell in love with a copy of himself.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:40:14 PM
No.720459526
>>720441625
Holy fuck you can't even read a graph with clear labels, can you?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 4:53:52 PM
No.720461119
>>720439698
So much for "you won't do shit"
>>720442108
I am also outside of america, but l like trannies hanging, what's the issue? It's not like someone else hnaged them, they hanged themselves
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:00:44 PM
No.720461901
Lots of trannies ITT
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:19:45 PM
No.720463831
>>720453196
>post no proof
*yawn*
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:33:13 PM
No.720465134
>>720431982
>reddity screeching
Literally, who asked you?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:34:59 PM
No.720465327
>>720453196
The only reason it happens is because you are not being honorable and kill him when he asks you to
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:35:02 PM
No.720465334
>>720435797
>appeal to nature
But so is murder, retarded faggot.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:36:03 PM
No.720465451
>>720407261
Who asked you?
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:41:20 PM
No.720465975
Gay stuff is as natural as any other sickness.
Anonymous
9/12/2025, 5:50:20 PM
No.720466897
>>720439531
this also
> they somehow win
> the democrats get in power again
> just bring in more immigrants
> said immigrants hate troons and faggots but worship allah instead of god so its okay
>TTD happens anyway but now the media ignores it
seems like a lose lose for lefties no matter what they do