Thread 720488682

These games are 4 years apart.

>>720488682 (OP)
Insane, isn't it? Something like this will never happen again.

SH3 had pretty good graphics

>>720489997
It's almost all in the textures, devs didn't rely in 700k polygons models to convey expression or character

>>720488682 (OP)
>>720488845
Silent hill 3 is one of the best looking ps2 games but silent hill to silent hill 2 was only a 2 year gap.

>>720490531
Insane how the remake completely ruined the atmosphere. We have been going backwards.

MGS2 was even more ridiculous and it ran at 60fps on basically the most underpowered system in 6th gen

Imagine if Kojima wasn’t chained to Sony and was able to develop for XBox. MGS2 would have looked even better, 3 would have ran better, and 4 wouldn’t have needed to be downgraded if it were on the 360’s hardware.

>>720488682 (OP)
These games are 10 years apart.

>>720490782
>Imagine if Kojima wasn’t chained to Sony and was able to develop for XBox.

>>720488682 (OP)
First game is also way better than the third.

Ray tracing actually looks pretty good though. Not that most people here would know, since they're playing on 10+ year old hardware and seethe when a game wants hardware made in the past 5 years

>>720495632
it looks fine, but it has been almost a decade and it hasn't really improved to the point of it actually being market ready. visual fidelity is kind of in the shitter.

>>720488682 (OP)
90s -> 2000s was wild to live through. Every new console was a quantum leap

>>720495897
it's not gonna get there because raytracing can't work realtime at modern game scale without some technological breakthough period. Nice buzzword to lure dumasses in to sell overpriced cards tho

>>720496390
lmao bullshit. play 2077 when you get a job

>>720496696
how does it feel to be a talking billboard, for free no less

>>720496954
damn what kind of monster talks about games they like on /v/ you're only allowed to shit on everything and cry on this board thanks for reminding me bitch I fuck your ass and you love it little whiner bitch nigger I beat your fucking ass in the street like a wet dog

>>720497029
not very good huh

>>720488845
it will happen but you'll need to view the after image through an integrated vr display.

>>720495632
>$4000 to see puddle reflections at a framerate that isn’t painful

>>720492824
to anon's credit, that port started at least a year after MGS2's release on PS2 and ran like shit in some areas on Xbox. If development was concurrent on Xbox it probably would've been a lot better off.

>>720497586
More like a couple hundred.

>>720498023
Ray tracing video cards are $40 dollars extra.

>>720489997
LA Noire is like that too.. a 2011 game having better facial animations than a lot of modern games.
We’ve kinda regressed.

>>720488682 (OP)
>>720490531
Does anyone know the exact tech breakthrough that caused the massive leap from late 90s to early 00s?

>>720495632
>Ray tracing actually looks pretty good though
You cannot source a good ray-traced reflection from a game made in the past 5-10 years, unfortunately.
RT/DLSS/FSR is faggot cope and all the other garbage tech pushed by bad devs compounds to make games look worse.

>>720498254
multicore microprocessors, from floppy disks to CDs and DVDs, more storage space and RAM

>>720498086
>40 dollars dollars

>>720498254
We were visited by aliens. No seriously, if you showed a 2025 pc to someone from like 1985; and said with a straight face “yep, that’s how we progressed so quickly” they would likely believe it, that’s how much of a leap (several leaps) it’s been.

>>720490782
Last time Microsoft got hold of a beloved IP that existed before entering the console era we got Nut and Bolts

No bro, Silent Hill 3 did NOT look like that

It was 448i and accurately looked like this

>>720488682 (OP)
Harry's result theme hit the hardest of all the games
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekf1ttmZSao

>>720498440
$40, plus an annotated term.

Leaving very little room for confusion.

>>720498338
Turning ray tracing on and off in 2077 makes a noticeable difference. It really does look fantastic. Whether it's worth the hit to FPS really depends. And I'm not a graphics whore, I usually play games that look like this that I'm playing right now. But ray tracing really can look amazing

>>720498338
> so we need to push raytracing that looks good but snail pace slow
> how do we fix it
> fake frames that look like ass
> people gobble it up and ask for more
you can't make this shit up, techology is a joke

>>720498684
I like how they remind you with 1:35

>>720498926
>BUT CYBURPAWNK!
It's bloated and looks like shit no matter what you run it on. Moar reflections does not equal moar better.

>>720499784
it's barely a game, i think there's like maybe 15 minutes where you do something other than driving and talking in 3 hours i played.

>>720491615
Videogames became a money laundry scheme along the way.

>>720498926
It's hit and miss. There's areas in the game where turning raytracing on just makes the entire ground look like it's covered in shiny lubricant.

>>720491615
rookie numbers, these are 13 years apart

>>720499784
>>720499994
damn you guys really just watch youtubers then come here to swing your opinions around like it means something huh

>>720500112
that's true. but in places where it works it really works.

>>720495632
>>720496696
>>720497029
>>720498926
>>720500282
for free

>>720489997
it's kinda insane how they pulled this off in the PS2

>>720500241
desu BL4 looks much sharper and much better compared to BL2

both games are shit though

Konami for the love of God just port 1-4 in a $40 collection. I don't care if it's just a PS1/PS2 emulator as long as it's flawless.

anyone who says anything positive about a video game on /v/ is a fucking shill and should be banned on sight.

>>720501110
Just install pcsx, why would you willingly give money to konami

>>720501298
I already have duckstation and the PC ports of 2-4 with patches but would like to have them officially in some way and make it accessible for newfags instead of the just the remake(s).

>>720498254
More transistors (e.g. 250nm to 180nm to 90nm) and the move to programmable shaders from fixed-function pipelines, also accurate floating point math computation

>>720501450
>would like to have them officially in some way and make it accessible for newfags
I don't...why? Why do they need to be official, which just means "gave assholes that didn't make the game money"? Why the fuck would you want to HELP newfaggot pieces of human shit?

>2 year gap back than
vs
>2 year gap now
What happened?

>>720500435
you struggle with depression and anxiety huh

>>720502082
yeah there was a concole jump between 1 and 2, and not between 2 and 3.
But no go compare a PS4 game with a PS5 one.

Cpmpare Spiderman 1 and 2, or Last of us2 and RDR2, with Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart and Demon's Souls remake.

You can barely tell there was a jump at all.

>>720501880
Why do you care faggot? I don't have to explain myself to you nigger

man

>>720488682 (OP)
To be fair Silent Hill team sold their souls to the devil

>>720498672
windows release same year
NIGGER

>>720488682 (OP)
The hardware was closer to 7 years apart.

>>720500282
>you guys really just watch youtubers then come here to swing your opinions around like it means something huh
Cyberpunk is bloated, ugly, and poorly optimized. On top of that, it's not very good as a game.
It didn't "become" good, either. It was so bad for so long that they had to essentially re-launch the game around a series of patches over YEARS, anon.

>>720488682 (OP)
>>720489997
>PS2 was more capable of realistic human faces than modern hardware
What the fuck happened and how

>>720503000
>0:03 to 0:06
Chef's fucking kiss

>>720503387
A big talent exodus around and after 7th gen

>>720503118
don't care. I like it and it runs fine on my laptop, above 60 FPS at nearly max settings. Maybe you need to replace that pentium chip you're using

This is more about talent in the industry and people actually caring than the technology itself.

>>720503058
Not the real way to play it, maybe it had higher resolution but it was otherwise a super jank broken shit like all PC ports from the early 2000s

Maybe it could do higher resolution but it was like straight up missing graphical and audio effects

>>720502929
Eat shit then you degenerative retard.

>>720500241
Borderlands 4 has better lighting but the cel-shaded comic book art style is less pronounced since 3, i still prefer how 2 looks.

>>720503702
>game so busted it wasn't sold on Playstation for at least half a year
>b-but it works on my machine
It's a bad game with shit visuals, but you're absolutely welcome to your faggot cope.

>>720502728
You don't remember how bad PS4 games looked in comparison. And these are PS4Pro screenshots.
Rubber Reedus LOD Adventure vs borderline photoreal graphics.

>>720505347
One thing these comparisons also dont show is realtime pop in
8th gen games had it super fucking bad, you'd see things about 10 meters infront of you pop in and it was just jarring.
Shadow distances too were very short, games like MGSV had it pretty bad, you'd see entire cliffs stop casting shadows like 50 meters ahead of Snake.

>>720505347
Even that comparison doesn't really match the jump from SH1 to 2 posted above, not by a long shot.

>>720503759
have you actually played silent hill 3's pc port anon
that shit just works, i don't know what to tell you. there's issues, sure, it's a twenty+ year old PC port made by japs, of course there's cracks. from what i could gather, they are:
>wonky FPS
>downgraded audio quality (PC can't compare to magical ps2 hardware)
>slightly downgraded visual effects (blur/bloom and stuff, magical ps2 hardware again)
>two missing sound effects (baby wailing that plays god knows where and some TV static)
>one missing piece of dialogue (lisa talking about alessa's burns)
>occasional crashes (never happened to me)
might sound like plenty when listed out but it's pretty damn good for a 2003 PC port (especially compared to 2's and 4's). this is a screenshot i took when i played it unpatched back in 2021 (yes it's the stupid bread meme i didnt take screenshots of anything else but memos and every other PC playthrough has been with the steam006 patch). i personally had no real noticeable issues. i only noticed lisa's missing dialogue when i remembered it later and that was it. and i don't know you but it looks pretty good to me.
the pc port that's actually fucked up and full of issues is 2's

3 years

>>720506808
The first girl is cuter than the second

>>720503759
consolepoor cope is so sad

>>720507375
This shit is fucking pathetic

Are we ever going to have a moment where stuff like this happens again? Some big improvement that we never thought was possible? Or is that unanswerable

probably not

Is the concept of diminishing returns really that hard to comprehend?

Eileen shaving

>>720507796
The problem is a lot of these games are looking worse as time goes on

>>720507937
We're in a recession and have been since 2020.

>>720507664
Putin and his younger version look great.

>>720507796
Is the concept of Indian outsourcing really that hard to comprehend?

>>720508028
2009*

>>720507937
Then compare to the ones that look better.

>>720508028
Games were looking like ass before that
The issue is brain drain

>>720508082
Games really did look better in hairy old '22.

>>720508181
Shenmue was 1999 and the most expensive game at the time.
Half Life had 1/10th of the budget
It actually made a hefty profit as well.

At least use Soulcalibur in your shitpost

>>720490663
They don't get it or care to. Everyone is just lovelessly doing his or her job.

>>720507270
FF16 had pretty good environments but 13 had overall way better art direction that still stands out.
16's color were so fucking muted

>>720508463
sega was at the forefront of graphics at the time in general with games like virtua fighter
im really curious how will vf6 fare graphically when it comes out

>>720509038
>Final Hallway 13
lol

>>720507270
Not the own you're intending. 16 looks great. The ff7 remakes, as much as I like them, look awful

>>720509092
13 had shit level design yeah, it sacrificed a fucking lot and put everything into art direction

>>720509298
>generic dogshit levels and enemies
>autobattler

Game was 20 years ahead of it's time, we used to love playing video games with gameplay and actual art direction and characters.

People now eat dogshit slop like genshin

>>720508224
I know bottom pic is low literally but why modern videogame is so blurry and npcs melting even on ultra qhd? literally why?

>>720502960
Just like Resident Evil, over 13 years and counting since a new entry has released

>>720510389
>>720510425
I hate Game Freak so much bros..

>>720509940
it's a product of stacking effects. they feel like they just need to keep adding more and it ruins the clarity. this is why old games are so visually clear.

>>720507664
Gollum was kino, only real ones understood what was going on there

>>720505347
>the ground in that bottom left shot
ewwww

>>720498086
>>720498440
his skin is black which means his brain is black please excuse his ESL

>>720489997
before DEI

>>720510542
whoahow this is literally a movie now!

>>720488845
AI's trajectory has an even more rapid growth. Look at Will Smith Spaghetti (2023) to Trump's "address" 2 days ago or whatever. It's basically as big of a jump as OP in half the time.

>>720503387
>What the fuck happened
Browns and women.
>and how
Jews.

>>720510542
BF3 had character, you nincompoop. You can't even tell what game it is before the last step, and after color grading it's unmistakable.

>>720512303
that is correct. bf3 looked so similar to every other shooter on the market that they had to add a ugly filter to distinguish themselves.

>>720512761
an ugly filter you could get permabanned for removing

>>720514195
>users of color
Wow I didn't know DICE were so racist

>>720512761
Strong color grading has been a part of the series art direction since at least Bad Company 2, just look at the cover art pictures.
And you call it ugly, you're gonna have to prove it to me.

>>720489997
>this is a ps2 game
fucking magic

>>720514379
they are literally (D) ICE

>>720507947
this is one of the best

>>720510542
>that dogshit green pass at the end
fuck this is so irritating

>>720515048
You have some strong opinions on colors for someone who's colorblind.

>>720508181
the end user having a powerful system doesn't magically create amazing graphics. right needs a lot of manpower and institutional experience to achieve. 1998 sega was miles ahead of a no name studio releasing their first major game.

>>720507589
yes it's vr. 3 dimensions and 1:1 scale are the only way forward.

>>720514379
DICE actually stood for "Diversity In Color Enhancement" all along. Every time you saw those teal and orange hellscapes, just remember: it was representation.

>>720498684
Head nodding cat is a notorious tranny meme, don't post it.

>>720518968
What other tranny memes should I be aware of?

>>720515820
comparing panchiko cutscenes to actual video game is not even close to fair dumbass.

>>720515820
Top is fox engine iirc

>>720488682 (OP)
>>720489997
They both look better than UE unity engine 5

>>720519245
The goose angrily chasing the guy while asking him a question. IDK why but troons love memes with animals.

>>720519245
Why are you doing this?
Trannies should all kill themselves and I don't give a fuck about their schizophrenia. I will post frogs and wojaks if I feel like it. I will post the shit I want. If you let them influence your choices you are playing their game

>>720519314
cope

>>720500076
Stop using terms you don't understand.

>>720500241
You don't have to play BL4 on the absolute highest settings. It's okay for games to have demanding ultra levels. They should not have to gimp them for your feelings.